In India, launched the head frigate of the new project 17A

In India, the lead frigate of the new project 17A was launched. The ceremony took place on September 28 this year at the Indian shipyard Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE) in Kolkata in the presence of Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh.

The frigate of project 17A Nilgiri was launched at the shipyard GRSE shipyard in Kolkata. The ship is the lead ship in a series of seven frigates being built at two shipyards at once - Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE) in Kolkata and state-owned Mazagon Dock Ltd (MDL) in Mumbai under a 2015 contract. The laying of the lead ship in Kolkata took place in February 2017, and the first serial ship in Mumbai in December of the same year. The transfer of the head and first serial frigate of the Indian Navy is scheduled for 2022-2023. By the way, in April last year, a 250-ton Goliaph gantry crane crashed onto the deck of a frigate under construction, causing significant damage to the ship. According to the Indian military, this incident could significantly shift the date of delivery of the lead frigate the fleet.

The frigates of the 17A project were developed on the basis of the frigates of the 17 Shivalik project, the creation of which the Indians owed to OAO Northern PKB, which was involved in the design in the middle of the 90's. Unlike the base model, the 17A project has larger dimensions and is built using stealth technology. The design of a promising guard was developed by the Italian company "Fincantieri" under a contract with the Indian Ministry of Defense since the end of the 2011 year.

According to data from open sources, the frigate is 149 m long, 17,8 m wide, 6673 displacement, 226 crew. Power plant - two gas turbines General Electric LM2500 and two diesel engines MAN 12V28 / 33D STC (combined gas turbine + diesel CODOG scheme). Maximum speed - 28 knots, range - 5500 nautical miles at a speed of 16-18 knots, or 1000 miles at a speed of 28 knots.

In service with the ship: Barak-8 anti-aircraft missile launcher (Long Range Surface-to-Air Missile - LR-SAM), BrahMos anti-ship missile launcher (1х8), two RBU-6000 anti-aircraft missiles (local version), two torpedo tubes, 76 mm AU, two MZAK AK-630M, radar ELTA MF-STAR (for air defense systems), sonar.

Comments

[Starover_Z]

So, the Indians need to design and build ships ...

[maxim947]

How to? Put yourself a general electric engine? And drop the crane on the ship? No thanks, it was already ...
We were greatly inhibited with the construction of ships, this is the gas turbine from Ukraine and much more. Yes, you can sprinkle ash on your head and blame everyone for what you previously thought. But the fact remains, and apparently it was necessary for this to happen so that we understand about such important things as the in-house production of gas turbines, aircraft engines of the entire necessary line. But this takes a considerable amount of time, and believe me, the plants and the designer plow tirelessly over the solution of this problem and quite successfully. But you need to be patient a bit, this process is not fast

[Town Hall]

Quote: maxim947

How to? Put yourself a general electric engine? And drop the crane on the ship? No thanks, it was already ...

Are you talking about a crane on Kusi's deck?

[maxim947]

Yes, about him

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

In the fall of 2018, Moscow and New Delhi signed a package of contracts, including the supply and production of Russian Project 11356 frigates in India. At present, there are three unfinished Project 11356 frigates at Yantar — Butakov, Istomin and Kornilov. Two of them are made with an engine room for Ukrainian turbines. They were sold to the Indians. Alteration of the formed engine rooms of Project 11356 frigates for living, with unification in terms of energy from 22350 was too expensive. Indians were reluctant to buy our frigates, but on April 17, 2018, at the Indian shipyard Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers (GRSE) in Kolkata, there was a major accident as a result of the collapse of the main 250-ton Goliath gantry crane. The crane collapsed on the hull of the new Project 17A lead frigate under construction at GRSE for the Indian Navy, significantly damaging the ship under construction. The collapsed crane, which had a height of 47 m and a span of 116 m, completely blocked both GRSE dry construction docks, in addition, the hull shop was badly damaged (Module Hall), where the hull blocks for Project 17A frigates were formed.
https://topwar.ru/141096-razdavilo-kranom-v-rezultate-avarii-serezno-postradal-nedostroennyy-indiyskiy-fregat.html

[Mikhail Drabkin]

You are Aristarkh Ludwigovich writing

In the fall of 2018 ....

-Always in the subject, or with reference to military subjects !!!
—- Without too much verbosity and sparingly in combat, without pompous Wishlist, and without underestimating the “partner”
—- Try not to give in to the emotions of the moment and the audience
-High bar !!
—- Good luck, success in life, and hello to the cat!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Thank you Michael By the way, USC received money under a contract with India for the construction of Project 11356 frigates. Soon two hulls will be raised onto the slipway and work will begin. This is the best option in the current situation. Otherwise, the unfinished buildings will rot in the water area of ​​the plant like the patrol boats "Tuman" and "Borodino". There are no domestic gas turbines on them and will never be.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

This Indian is about the fourth frigate of the 11356P project “Admiral Butakov”
was at the factory in 2017 and tweeted the following:
Butakov and her incomplete sister ships are on offer to India, which will separately procure sanctioned power plants from Ukraine.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

You are Aristarkh Ludwigovich writing

This Indian about the fourth frigate of project 11356P Admiral Butakov was at the plant in 2017 and tweeted the following:

-Sikh ... The combat-ready people of India. Probably not very musical.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

This Indian is about the fourth frigate of the 11356P project “Admiral Butakov”
was at the factory in 2017 and tweeted the following:
Butakov and her incomplete sister ships are on offer to India, which will separately procure sanctioned power plants from Ukraine.

EMNIP, dancing around the sale of India of unfinished 11356 has been going on since 2015. Just from the time when it became clear - there will be no Ukrainian gas turbines for the ships of our fleet, and their gas turbines will be primarily for 22350 and not earlier than 2019.

On July 1, 2015, at the naval salon in St. Petersburg, the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, told reporters that the fleet would abandon three Admiral Grigorovich-type ships and build instead of them 18 project 22800 small missile ships.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: maxim947

Yes, about him

There was another tap dropped. Also during the repair of AB, but on an Indian order. True, then a million evergreens flew to the dock.

[rocket757]

Those who need it, who can, are building it.

[Lipchanin]

In service with the ship: Barak-8 anti-aircraft missile launcher (Long Range Surface-to-Air Missile - LR-SAM), BrahMos anti-ship missile launcher (1х8), two RBU-6000 anti-aircraft missiles (local version), two torpedo tubes, 76 mm AU, two MZAK AK-630M, radar ELTA MF-STAR (for air defense systems), sonar.

Seriously so for him. Teeth, if something can show

[novel66]

Serge, spit it's indians

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

spit it's indians

Roman, and they won’t be offended if I get there?

[novel66]

dance with resentment .. beautifully

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

dance with resentment .. beautifully

Aha. "Hindi Rusish, bhai bhai" (Old Man Hottabych)

[novel66]

not only .. not only ..

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

not only .. not only.

How they dance and sing, no one can

[novel66]

how !! ... "but we sing and dance the best ..."

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

"but we sing and dance best of all ..."

Well, the current choir named after Alexandrov.
And we are the current at the table

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The sonar seems very small. Or he’s not even at all in the keel.

In my opinion, for a frigate with a displacement of 6673 tons, 8 anti-ship missiles are not enough, and with anti-submarine weapons it is also weak, there is no anti-torpedo protection at all.

We will have more than 20385 more serious corvettes, and the operation of such a corvette is several times cheaper, with at least the same combat capabilities.

[KVU-NSVD]

For such a displacement, the weapons are somehow not ale - at the level of a corvette

[novel66]

also seemed a little

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

also seemed a little

Fine. Enough to protect the coast

[novel66]

with such a displacement - 60 pieces of vertical containers with all sorts of sweets

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

with such a displacement - 60 pieces of vertical containers with all sorts of sweets

Well, maybe it’s also prudent

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

For such a displacement, the weapons are somehow not ale - at the level of a corvette

If we take the Russian corvettes of the 20380 project, then the designer had to cram a maximum of weapons into a limited volume, leaving no room for modernization and sacrificing other important characteristics - habitability and autonomy.

[KVU-NSVD]

I agree, but still with a displacement of under seven thousand, it would be possible to shove even more .. or maybe the Indians' comfort of living is simply more important, since autonomy is not unique so ..

[Agronom]

Let them build if they have money ... But Russia has Onyxes and Granites with Bastions ..

[Thrifty]

So, with a water displacement, they’re almost a destroyer, and they’re building very quickly. You can laugh at Indians dancing everywhere, but to be honest, we are far from the pace of building warships.

[Prisoner]

So it’s not for nothing that they dance. Trained.

[K-50]

Nda ,.
On the one hand, the Indians are great, they build themselves and still buy from us.
On the other hand, some frigate is unarmed.
With a size and displacement larger than ours, there are only 8 anti-ship missiles. It turned out to be a large trough with a minimum of shock weapons. And this despite the fact that "Brahmos" are made by them, in a full cycle.
Well, yes, their business.

[Nycomed]

Probably for "Brahmos" or the like, a place is reserved with such a displacement.

[Vadmir]

With dimensions and displacement greater than ours, the weapons are only 8 anti-ship missiles.

Their shores are washed by the ocean, maybe they do not have the concept of "Near sea zone" and they build an ocean-going ship with appropriate seaworthiness.

[K-50]

Quote: Vadmir

Their shores are washed by the ocean, maybe they do not have the concept of "Near sea zone" and they build an ocean-going ship with appropriate seaworthiness.

Our Gorshkov has a displacement of a thousand tons less, but the Onyx / Bramos missiles are 16. And that's not counting the air defense / anti-aircraft missiles.

[Vadmir]

Well, potential opponents are different. They are not threatened by the USAG. Then the Indian Ocean dictates both greater range and better seaworthiness. Again, the tasks can be completely different, there are frigates with an emphasis on PLO or air defense, there are generalists. We do not know what the designers were guided by, we did not read the technical specifications. But to evaluate the ship only by the number of anti-ship missiles is not entirely correct.

[Eug]

It is strange that the article does not mention the helicopter, judging by the video, it is most likely Sea King, but one or two is a question.