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Republic Air Force MiG-29 fighter crashed in Slovakia

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The Slovak Air Force lost the MiG-29 fighter that crashed on Saturday evening in the area of ​​Zlate Moravec during a training flight. The incident was reported by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the country Danka Tsapakova.


Republic Air Force MiG-29 fighter crashed in Slovakia


According to the information provided, the Slovakian Air Force MiG-29 fighter crashed during a training flight near the town of Zlate Moravec in the Nitrian region in the west of the country on Saturday evening. The pilot of the aircraft managed to eject, at present, his life and health are not in danger. The training flight was carried out by a pair of MiG-29 fighters, the second aircraft made a safe landing.

MiG-29 crashed near the town of Zlate Moravec. Pilot ejected

- the statement of the Slovak military department says.

As the Ministry of Defense of the Republic emphasized, the flight was carried out without ammunition, nothing was reported about the destruction and casualties on the ground. A preliminary cause of the crash is the lack of fuel in the tanks of the fighter. Final conclusions will be made after the work of a special commission that will deal with the analysis of this incident. The Minister of Defense of the country Peter Gaidosh left for the place of the fighter’s crash.

The MiG-29 fighter is the main combat aircraft of the Slovak Air Force. At present, the structure of the Air Force of the country remains 11 Soviet-built fighters received back in the 90 years after the collapse of Czechoslovakia. The aircraft will serve until the 2023 year, after which, as F-16 Block 70 / 72 fighters arrive, they will gradually be withdrawn from the Air Force and withdrawn from service.
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  1. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 29 September 2019 06: 23
    +8
    Lack of fuel ??? This is generally beyond good and evil!
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 29 September 2019 06: 36
      +5
      Quote: Local from the Volga
      Lack of fuel ??? This is generally beyond good and evil!

      European economy, or what ?!
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 29 September 2019 08: 02
      +5
      Quote: Local from the Volga
      Lack of fuel ??? This is generally beyond good and evil!

      I think the fuel informing system did not work correctly.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 29 September 2019 09: 14
        +4
        Yes, we recall the details of the death of A.V. Fedotov, a wonderful test pilot ...
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 29 September 2019 09: 28
        -1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        I think the fuel informing system did not work correctly

        The control systems in the aircraft are duplicated many times and I doubt that the pilot could lead to such a failure.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 29 September 2019 09: 46
          +2
          Quote: APASUS
          The control systems in the aircraft are duplicated many times and I doubt that the pilot could lead to such a failure.

          I don’t remember which of our test pilots crashed for precisely this reason. The indication showed that the tanks were empty, he went off to land with a sharp maneuver, and there was still a lot of fuel in the tanks.
          Something happened with the bulbs.
          Maybe I’m wrong in the details, but in terms of meaning everything seems to be right
      3. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 29 September 2019 14: 55
        0
        How is this possible?

        Training flights are planned, and aircraft refueling is calculated for them, moreover, with a margin.

        The flight was carried out by 2 fighters, one of which filled a full tank, and the second half tank, and just on the second the fuel sensor was faulty?
    3. Shuttle
      Shuttle 29 September 2019 08: 34
      +1
      Quote: Local from the Volga
      Lack of fuel ??? This is generally beyond good and evil!

      There was such a case with a passenger plane. The refueling service and the pilots used different units of measure when refueling and calculating. As a result, all the engines in the aircraft in flight failed alternately. Fortunately, there were no casualties at that time. But then the refueling was in a foreign port.
      The Wiki has an article "Gimli's Glider" about him.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 29 September 2019 08: 43
        +2
        Quote: Shuttle
        The refueling service and the pilots used different units of measure when refueling and calculating.

        Interestingly, did the pilots not look at their on-board fuel meters, but only at the tanker’s counter?
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 29 September 2019 09: 48
        +3
        Quote: Shuttle
        There was such a case with a passenger plane.

        Not so long ago, a space rocket was also fueled "by eye", we discussed it here.
        So she flew unclear where
    4. 1 Navigator
      1 Navigator 29 September 2019 11: 12
      +2
      And I'm not surprised at anything. I worked in Slovakia, that I can say that corruption is everywhere, they don’t want to work, everyone needs everything, all neighbors, no education, no education, people who studied and brought up when Czechoslovakia was under the influence of the USSR, normal and adequate, these people remained deranged values. Young, uneducated English, few people know.
      1. Juha
        Juha 6 October 2019 15: 39
        0
        Damn, how did you notice in the top ten and I lived there. You wrote the truth.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 29 September 2019 06: 42
    -4
    Precisely, the pilot drove the fuel straight "to the left" in flight. .. am laughing
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 September 2019 07: 25
    +3
    Pilot ejected
    You can congratulate the pilot on salvation.
  4. ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 29 September 2019 07: 47
    +1
    Why do Slovakia fighter jets? Spit on this dirty business and transfer to bicycles. No fuel needed and savings.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 29 September 2019 07: 58
      -3
      Quote: ssergey1978
      Why do Slovakia fighter jets?

      Need it like this?)

      Well it’s good that
      The pilot of the aircraft managed to eject, at present, his life and health are not in danger.
      1. ssergey1978
        ssergey1978 29 September 2019 08: 04
        +1
        As an option. Safe and ECONOMY where not to spit.
      2. Eug
        Eug 29 September 2019 08: 51
        +1
        Is it they who are working on "flying on foot"?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 29 September 2019 09: 00
          -1
          Quote: Eug
          Is it they who are working on "flying on foot"?

          No it's on parade lol
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  6. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 29 September 2019 08: 02
    0
    Free Slovakia- free tanks. :-)
  7. Kontrik
    Kontrik 29 September 2019 08: 12
    -1
    Someone leaked nights and fuel ..)))))
  8. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 29 September 2019 08: 14
    0
    About the lack of fuel, their local police wrote on Facebook. I wonder how she found out ...
    P.S. The batons they have are interesting --- such cultural ... Europe! )))
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 September 2019 08: 42
    +1
    A preliminary cause of the crash is the lack of fuel in the tanks of the fighter.

    something really quite !!! request I have no words.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 29 September 2019 08: 45
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      A preliminary cause of the crash is the lack of fuel in the tanks of the fighter.

      something really quite !!! request I have no words.

      It seems that some "expert" blurted out about the fuel, and the media picked up.
  10. parkello
    parkello 29 September 2019 10: 08
    0
    . The aircraft will serve until 2023, after which, as F-16 Block 70/72 fighters arrive, they will be gradually withdrawn from the Air Force and withdrawn from service replace Mig 29 with f-16 ... even if block 70 ... the highest degree of insanity.
    1. vfwfr
      vfwfr 29 September 2019 14: 17
      +1
      I would say BU on BU ...
      But in fact .. What they ordered to replace, they will replace it with that .. at least it will be 100 times more expensive.
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 29 September 2019 15: 06
      +1
      replace Mig 29 with f-16 ... even if block 70 ... the highest degree of insanity.


      Where is insanity? Slovakia to NATO, F-16 block -70/72 is the last modification of this aircraft with a powerful radar with AFAR and the ability to use all types of ammunition, including precision on the ground, which by the way on their MiG-29, it has weaker radar.

      If we had a ready-made Mig-35 with excellent characteristics, with even greater maneuverability and much cheaper, it would be possible to choose.

      And while the MiG-35 we ourselves do not have in service, what can we talk about here ?!

      But the Su-30/35 may have come up for Slovakia, but it will come out even more expensive than the F-16 for the price, and it will also lead to a conflict with the United States, which the authorities of this country will not do to buy one squadron of aircraft.

      Slovakia’s purchase of the latest F-16 modification is justified. They need fighters to protect the airspace, and they are not going to conduct active military operations, maximum together with the United States will take a limited part in any military operation in the last roles.
      1. parkello
        parkello 29 September 2019 18: 01
        0
        Well, fine, while they retrain the composition, for now, yes, ce .. they don’t really need to fly. although the 35th Mig is already on sale. block 70-72 it is certainly new, but not always new is better than the old. those who flew on MiG29, on f-16 will not want to fly, with its oaks. full of examples. the same North. Africa and Bulgaria ... tried f-16..and her .. are in no hurry to buy. the old ones are still flying. but how do you know such subtleties. You are trying to find logic there. A cold calculation, but I completely refute it. Egypt did not want to take f-16 and took Rafal. although with the Greek pilots they flew together on the f-16 and on the Mig 29, and were familiar with the capabilities of the f-16. they are even inferior to Mirages in speed, in gaining height and maneuverability. I'm not talking about thrust-weight ratio and range. even the hunchbacked Mig 29 is better than him, and Rafal is better and the Typhoon. just say that you need to lick the rolls of merikos and they will do it. and so what is better f-16 than the same Rafal? if we replace it, then at least for what is better. and not only that, the same eggs are only in profile. it is expected that f-16 block 70+ will receive AFAR ... as there is no Mig-35 there is no block 70 either. even the Yankees themselves don’t have them ... Estonia has a lot of f-16 planes block 70-72? we even have a 52+ block of 10 boards 1 such flies. no more .. and you tell me for 70 ku ... the Turks generally have a block of 30, the plant stands and rivets. I don’t want to fly ... they’ll throw away rubbish and then 10 years each for the modernization and development of new aircraft by pilots. it’s just that the Slovaks let everyone understand that in the next 10 years they’re not going to fight with anyone. therefore climb into NATO. they think participation in the alliance will change anything. but there are no guarantees. and not the fact that 80 mill. US dollars apiece is not expensive for f-16. And the block 70-72 will cost as much.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 29 September 2019 19: 06
          0
          Bulgaria ... tried the F-16 ... and her ... are in no hurry to buy.


          Do not follow the news?

          Bulgaria transfers $ 1,2 billion to eight US F-16 Block 70 fighters to the US Agency for Defense Cooperation and Security and the equipment and weapons they need, the country's defense ministry said.

          but how do you know such subtleties. You are trying to find logic there. A cold calculation, but I completely refute it.


          Where are we, we are dark people, we don’t read all kinds of Internet there, we don’t follow the news and we don’t understand anything at all in technology)))

          f-16. they are even inferior to Mirages in speed, in climbing and maneuverability. I'm not talking about thrust-weight ratio and range


          Speed, climb and overall maneuverability are needed to a large extent in order to get away from fired missiles of the enemy, but in order to attack the enemy he needs to be detected and not be detected himself. And for this, the F-16 unit 70/72 has a good avionics and reduced visibility for the radar of the fighter itself.

          F-16 tactics are patrolling - targeting - missile launch - withdrawal.

          Yes, the MiG-29 will be munching in an already ensuing battle in skilled hands and will be able at some point to get away from the enemy’s attack (fired missiles), but the MiG-29 will detect targets much later than the last F-16 of the last modification, which means the first strike it will inflict F-16 block 70/72, and not MiG-29, unless of course the MiG-29 guidance on the target by other radars is used, and not its own.

          I suspect that the MiG-29 EPR is significantly larger than that of the F-16.

          In general, for Slovakia, the purchase of the F-16 block 70/72 is quite logical and justified. What else should they buy? MiG-29 of the old modification or it is not clear what condition the MiG-35 is in?

          A pig in a poke against the proven F-16 - the choice is obvious.

          It is not justified for Russia that the Mig-35 is not yet built in and is not brought to an acceptable level in all respects, including the price.

          Without MiG, Sukhoi will become worse, as competition will disappear and we will become even more behind.

          I would have supported the MiG in place of the authorities (which is what’s being done) in any case, so that they would issue a worthy competitor to the Su-30/35 and have several squadrons in service. Let it have a smaller radius, but it will also have its advantages - a more favorable price for the fighter itself and the cost of operation.

          And annually conducted training fights at all combat distances, and these would be competitions of design bureaus, and not flight units. Each design bureau would invite the top 10 pilots on their fighters (so that there is no whining, that the pilots are different) and would conduct a series of training battles at milestone distances, followed by analysis of the results, detection of aircraft flaws and their elimination.

          Only in this way, through sweat and effort, victory is forged.

          And I would also invite colleagues on foreign fighters to look at what they are capable of, in order to know what to expect from them and their vehicles.
          1. parkello
            parkello 29 September 2019 20: 26
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            do not count your chickens before they are hatched. wait and see. And the Bulgarian whining of flyers more than once we hear. Let's see who is better. and by the way, planes most often intercept airborne surveillance stations at ground stations than over the dashboard. so it’s not a fact. that the f-16 will be able to detect. lock and shoot first. and if they engage in close combat, then Migi will push them to the fifth fulcrum. for the very tomatoes ... undoubtedly AFAR is a good thing, but nobody canceled the laws of aerodynamics and aeronautics. f 16 has one engine, and Mig has 2 of them. how much do not reduce the EPR, and the f-16 shines on the radars of even the old MiGs. it’s never logical to change the MiG 29 to the F-16. besides, for that kind of money, for 80 mil a piece (presumably), you can equip Migi so not a single f-16 will even stand in one row. in short, the thing rests only on the fact that Slovakia is a new member of the alliance and must buy weapons from the USA and that’s the point. and even Swedish Grippen is even better than f-16. in Yugoslavia, the MiGs lost in numerical superiority to the F-16th. and besides, NATO had AWACs and a fleet. opposite 12 MiGs 550 f-16s ... the situation is so-so. be with the Serbs their AWACs and more fighters. I'm sure that the war might not have taken place at all. and so limited to bombing. the land operation was canceled. scared. they did the right thing, because the Serbs would have broken their backbone on the ground. And the Albanians and their patrons. After the USSR. NATO was most afraid of Yugoslavia. Therefore, they devoured it. in the same way they are trying to decompose Russia into fragments and then territorially limit it. and here a huge role is played by someone whose weapon will fight successfully, on a foreign land of course ... and the skill of the pilots is also not the last factor in the collisions in the air space. so the calculations here are not at all cold and there is no logic there. some blind hopes that the f-16 block 72+ will be better than the old Mig-29s ... that's all.
            1. Ratmir_Ryazan
              Ratmir_Ryazan 30 September 2019 00: 15
              0
              how many do not reduce the EPR, and the f-16 glows on the radars of even the old MiGs


              To shine then to shine, only from a much closer distance than the MiG-29 on the F-16 radar block 70/72.

              Well, besides, Slovakia in NATO and NATO planes and AWACS helicopters and ground-based radars are just integrated with the F-16, and not MiGs.

              Let's look at things realistically, the new F-16 modifications are better than the MiG-29s from the 90s.

              The question with the MiG-35 would be different, but this aircraft is not even in service with Russia, and foreigners do not even need it, given the opportunity to buy the already proven F-16 or the same Grippen.

              Russia needs to promote the MiG-35 to the international market. In parallel, modernizing this aircraft, eliminating its shortcomings, increasing the life of both the airframe and engines, making new more economical and at the same time more high-torque engines, I improve avionics.

              Slovaks have nothing to be offended by; they buy airplanes to make their country more protected. It is necessary to be offended by the fact that the MiG-35 has not yet been mass produced.

              To lose the Indian market for MiG is just a shame. For India, the MiG would be the most convenient option, if it was a ready-made serial aircraft.
              1. parkello
                parkello 30 September 2019 00: 43
                +1
                Yes, what are there grudges on the Slovak then? Well, they buy yes ... everyone buys, who are not able to do their own. For example, I do not see anything promising in the modification of block 70. and I wouldn’t hurry with purchases. and Grippen is better of course. more reliable in any case, I had to drive a Saab car. I trust this company. but F-16 pah ... with the loss of the market in India, yes. It’s unpleasant that it is lost, and everyone else needs it. but there will still be a holiday on our street, I’m not in a hurry to live. and I agree with you that it is necessary to promote Mig35 to the foreign market. but it is also necessary to sell to those countries that can use the full potential of the aircraft to the full. and if the new fighter is in the hands of inexperienced pilots, then Western planes will again dominate, although they are no better. it all depends on the pilots and on the ground stations monitoring the airspace. service .. this is where Mig loses the F-16 ... in service. EFK plants are located in Turkey and Israel and in many other countries, and there is no branch from MiG anywhere. why do you think Turkey’s purchase of the S-400 kmlex evoked such a tumult? Yes, because after the Turks the Greeks can buy whatever they want from Russia, especially since they already bought ... not for anything NATO-confused. and there’s a lot to sell here. the same hovercraft ... a hovercraft, or hydrofoil .. that’s what the Greeks buy. such a boat runs in Volos, rolls people. we have 4 bison yet. 2 donors and 2 are running, those that Russia bought are still on track, although they need to change their skirts for a long time. but here, the problem is, there is no service .. if there is something very expensive. spare parts for the Bison have still not been delivered. but you need ... and then aviation., and even combat, of course they will choose what they can fix at any time and not wait for spare parts for six months. if Russia does not promote its planes with a service, no one will buy them.
  11. Doliva63
    Doliva63 29 September 2019 16: 26
    +1
    "...on Saturday night."
    Well, there’s nothing to fly on Saturdays! In decent Air Force do not.
  12. Juha
    Juha 1 October 2019 13: 44
    0
    They killed the plane due to lack of fuel. They couldn’t pick up fuel for the plane sitting on the porch of the EU and pulling Europeans passing by their clothes so that they would give alms to their hats. It’s not for them to terrorize unarmed foreigners in their own country, I write this as a person who lived there for many years by necessity and was forced to leave Slovakia after the provocation that their state bodies carried out against me, with falsifications, with official forgery, with slander with everything that they (gypsies) were enough to survive at any cost from the country. On the other hand, why do they need such a sophisticated technique as a fighter, nevertheless they, being migrant workers like the bubonic plague, are spreading throughout the EU during a pandemic.
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