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Israeli Air Force received another pair of F-35I Adir fighters

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The Israeli Air Force received another pair of fifth-generation fighters F-35I Adir. The planes arrived at the Nevatim air base, where they will enter the combat structure of the 140 Golden Eagle squadron. It is reported by the Israeli Air Force Command.


Israeli Air Force received another pair of F-35I Adir fighters


Another two F-35I Adir fighters arrived at the Nevatim airbase, where they will be part of the 140 Golden Eagle squadron. Soon, the 116 Squadron will be formed at the base, which will become the second unit of the Israeli Air Force equipped with these fighters. To date, under the contract signed in the 2010 year, Lockheed Martin has delivered the Israeli Air Force 18 F-35I Adir fighters. By the end of this year, Israel plans to get two more fighters, thereby bringing their number to 20.

The total number of F-35I Adir fighters ordered by the Israeli Air Force is 50 units, with delivery scheduled for 2024 year. The first pair of fifth-generation fighters landed at Nevatim airbase on 12 on December 2016. A year later, in early December 2017, when the Israeli Air Force received 9 aircraft, the command announced the readiness of the F-35I Adir fleet for combat use.

Currently, all received fighters are part of the 140 th Golden Eagle squadron deployed at the Nevatim airbase, the second F-35I squadron will be located there. The base has a good location: fifth-generation Israeli fighters can perform tasks without refueling in the airspace of Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, most of Egypt and Iraq, as well as parts of Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Earlier it was reported that the Israeli Air Force is considering the purchase of another 25 F-35I fighter or upgraded F-15 to replace obsolete aircraft in service. Most likely, the decision will be made before the end of this year.
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  1. Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 21 September 2019 19: 24
    +2
    F-35 fighters have already released about 500 pieces. Su-57 is still about six pieces .. Does it seem to me alone that I should push it?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 September 2019 19: 26
      +4
      Quote: Saxahorse
      Does it seem to me alone that I should push it?

      In economics, you mean? To push, we need to remove the weight from the gas pedal in the form of today's manual.
      1. Saxahorse
        Saxahorse 21 September 2019 19: 36
        +10
        I suspect that you have mixed pedals :)
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 21 September 2019 19: 46
          -11
          Quote: Saxahorse
          you messed up the pedals

          Well, here ... they broke off a fiery wrestler with a redhead laughing
      2. Constructor68
        Constructor68 21 September 2019 22: 13
        -1
        In economics, you mean? To push, we need to remove the weight from the gas pedal in the form of today's manual.

        Svarog, who do you want? You, except for whining about government in every topic, regardless of the topic of the article, do nothing else. As soon as a new article appears - the first comments in it by Svarog. Do you watch them for days? Is such a "watch" well paid?) So do not cling to those who do something in this country.
      3. Nycomed
        Nycomed 21 September 2019 23: 39
        -7
        A. Maybe "WEIGHT" is you?
    2. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 19: 27
      -1
      And what is heard on the new engine? If it is not, then it makes sense to produce empty gliders. Better Su-35
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 21 September 2019 20: 45
        +7
        The Su-57 has excellent engines. When they are better, they will be installed on existing machines.
      2. Nycomed
        Nycomed 21 September 2019 20: 47
        -2
        Absolutely right! But ... Not on this resource to discuss such topics. request
    3. figwam
      figwam 21 September 2019 19: 33
      +7
      Quote: Saxahorse
      F-35 fighters have already released about 500 pieces. Su-57 is still about six pieces .. Does it seem to me alone that I should push it?

      There, all NATO was dropped for development and guaranteed to buy it.
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 21 September 2019 19: 56
        +1
        Cool Americans all cheated. They invented tales about a super-duper airplane, collected money from everyone in their pocket to create this airplane, and as a result they didn’t share key technologies with anyone, but created an airplane that is under their full control with the help of software, and even with dubious stealth, and the money then many countries invested in the project and these countries have nowhere to go. But the conveyor is working. Here's how to promote your technology, despite all its flaws.
        MOSCOW, Sep 20 - RIA News. The Pentagon’s excitement about the probable F-35 desacralization by Turkish S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems is not unreasonable, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.

        "This fully applies to the" invisible ", only for American taxpayers and foreign buyers, American 5th generation fighters. The Pentagon's trepidation and excitement about the likely desacralization of F-35 fighters by Turkish S-400 air defense missile systems are not unfounded," in the message.

        https://ria.ru/20190920/1558889256.html
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 21 September 2019 20: 50
          +7
          So we, let’s, from all CSTO members we will collect money for our engine and our plane! What is stopping you?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 21 September 2019 20: 59
            -3
            Quote: Nycomed
            So we, let’s, from all CSTO members we will collect money for our engine and our plane! What is stopping you?

            Cool troll .. CSTO interferes laughing It’s not an understandable organization .. For good, all CSTO countries should have a defense budget and naturally buy the best equipment .. naturally from us .. In fact, there is no certainty in the CSTO that, in the case of a large stock, these countries will not rebound .. For we everywhere half measures, this is generally the style of our leadership .. Half measures.
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 21 September 2019 21: 08
              +1
              And what does "trolling" have to do with it? Have I started this gimmick? I just asked a question. And you already, think for yourself. I have my own opinion. You know him. winked
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 21 September 2019 23: 20
              +1
              Quote: Svarog
              Cool troll ..

              laughing Look who's Talking... yes
              Quote: Svarog
              this is generally the style of our leadership ..
              Are you talking about the leadership of the "deep people" of whiners whose representative you are?
        2. Rabioso
          Rabioso 22 September 2019 09: 33
          -1
          Regarding not shared, you're wrong. You do not own just information. Besides the fact that there is not only American technology.
      2. Rwmos
        Rwmos 21 September 2019 20: 12
        -9
        Quote: figvam
        and guaranteed to buy it.

        Well, the smarter ones are Germany. France. Turkey - mattresses were sent to the south long ago wink Only faithful slaves remained - Israel. Petty Brekhania, Poland with the president bent in the Oval Office and the mother of Japan)))
        1. bobba94
          bobba94 21 September 2019 20: 25
          +4
          About those who are smarter. The annual gratuitous military assistance is more than three billion dollars. Every year. Free of charge. Three billion dollars. Honestly, I would take it for free with pleasure. Yes, talking about Israel.
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 20: 32
            -1
            And what have you done useful for the USA :) By the way, the USA helps not only Israel
            1. To be or not to be
              To be or not to be 21 September 2019 21: 53
              0
              Is it clear that they are completely sovereign and independent states on the American DOSE? and the size of the dose is set depending on loyalty or it can even be reduced .. and breaking ..
              1. Kenxnumx
                Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 21: 56
                -1
                Why not. What is the essence of independence and sovereignty in your opinion. Proud naked skinny butt like the DPRK?
                1. To be or not to be
                  To be or not to be 21 September 2019 21: 59
                  +2
                  Recently they laughed how this "skinny" you called it had a fat American one. and how I wanted
                  1. Kenxnumx
                    Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 22: 01
                    -3
                    And that it made it easier for them. They say recently with hunger they tried to eat our border guards.
                    1. To be or not to be
                      To be or not to be 21 September 2019 22: 03
                      -1
                      I would have such a hunger squid Far Eastern .. I really liked the beer sticks dried from it at the Ocean store in Vladivostok
                      1. Kenxnumx
                        Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 22: 05
                        -1
                        So get to the DPRK. You will have a beer with squid and full pants of sovereignty.
                    2. Tersky
                      Tersky 21 September 2019 23: 49
                      +6
                      Quote: Ken71
                      They say recently with hunger they tried to eat our border guards.

                      laughing Wow, you won't please with a reference to this cannibalism? Oh yeah, I didn't grab the word "say" recourse ... Well, about the inscription on the fence and the women who rushed to look for the announced behind the fence I will not remind, but undoubtedly there is a lot (if not all) in common with your "commentary" yes .
                      1. Kenxnumx
                        Kenxnumx 22 September 2019 01: 02
                        -7
                        Since you still managed to catch the word "speak" in the middle of your text, I think you understood the meaning of my message to the esteemed Mr. Hamlet
                  2. Rabioso
                    Rabioso 22 September 2019 09: 35
                    0
                    But don’t you envy the Koreans? Do you want to live there?
                2. PalBor
                  PalBor 22 September 2019 09: 01
                  +4
                  The funny thing is that those who are "helped" by the United States have not only naked and skinny butts now, but the state itself is in question. Even Mexico is not running from full stomachs.
                  1. Kenxnumx
                    Kenxnumx 22 September 2019 11: 19
                    -3
                    This is military assistance. The US has not taken the responsibility to feed.
              2. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 21 September 2019 22: 28
                -1
                Quote: To be or not to be
                the size of the dose is set depending on loyalty, or it can even be reduced .. and breaking

                It is you who design the familiar defense industry.
                In Israel, it is somehow different.
                Here are the facts:
                "Israel's defense spending was 2016% of GDP in 5,8, and 1990% in 17,5.
                This does not mean that defense spending has more than tripled, just GDP has increased. For example, Israel’s per capita GDP from 2005 to 2014 increased 1,67 times. US military aid (about $ 3 billion) makes up just over 1% of GDP."
            2. iouris
              iouris 21 September 2019 23: 09
              +1
              Except for Israel, which is assisted by the United States, everyone else is helping the USA.
          2. Rwmos
            Rwmos 21 September 2019 20: 37
            -1
            ... in exchange for an attack by the Saudi refinery from Israel? Take it, just watch how not to fall when walking
          3. Sky strike fighter
            Sky strike fighter 21 September 2019 21: 00
            +4
            Quote: bobba94
            About those who are smarter. The annual gratuitous military assistance is more than three billion dollars. Every year. Free of charge. Three billion dollars. Honestly, I would take it for free with pleasure. Yes, talking about Israel.

            That's right, too. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. It turns out that the Americans are buying themselves soyuznikov for money. And then in the US, no one goes to rallies with the slogans "Stop feeding ...." and then an impressive list of countries to which the United States pays its green candy wrappers. Traders.
            1. Rwmos
              Rwmos 21 September 2019 21: 39
              +8
              And that in the US, no one goes to rallies with the slogans "Stop feeding ...." and then an impressive list of countries to which the United States pays its green candy wrappers.

              In order for someone wink went to rallies with such slogans, it is necessary that this fund was sponsored by the US Democracy Support Fund. But since this fund works only outside the United States - democracy in SyShyA itself ... Some kind of unsupported. A country of USED democracy is so ...
              In addition, the excuse about "onizhedeti" does not channel there - the United States did not sign the international convention on the rights of the child AT ALL, so here it is:

              - they do not have a bloody Putin regime, but tolerance and elves on a rainbow
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              2. igor67
                igor67 22 September 2019 09: 52
                +3
                Quote: RWMos
                And that in the US, no one goes to rallies with the slogans "Stop feeding ...." and then an impressive list of countries to which the United States pays its green candy wrappers.

                In order for someone wink went to rallies with such slogans, it is necessary that this fund was sponsored by the US Democracy Support Fund. But since this fund works only outside the United States - democracy in SyShyA itself ... Some kind of unsupported. A country of USED democracy is so ...
                In addition, the excuse about "onizhedeti" does not channel there - the United States did not sign the international convention on the rights of the child AT ALL, so here it is:

                - they do not have a bloody Putin regime, but tolerance and elves on a rainbow

                say tolerance? maybe this dark-skinned man was selling drugs or worse
                1. Rwmos
                  Rwmos 22 September 2019 14: 56
                  0
                  But what about "onizhedeti"? They did not sell drugs, but killed people, but that did not stop yelling "onizhedeti"
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 23 September 2019 01: 17
                  +1
                  Correct photo, demonstrators intentionally hid behind children, Intentionally. And they intentionally substituted them under law enforcement agencies in the event of a “batch”. The children were taken out, the risks of causing injuries and other harm to their health and life were removed, and protocols on the Code of Administrative Offenses were drawn up for parents. But I don’t understand, why were the Jews so excited? That is, inadequate insolently framed children under the police? Is this normal? Or were the Jews so offended for the American host?
          4. Avior
            Avior 21 September 2019 23: 34
            0
            More Egypt and Jordan ....
        2. Nycomed
          Nycomed 21 September 2019 21: 27
          0
          Respected! You, at least a little take an interest in the history of post-war combat aircraft in Europe. Maybe then stop writing nonsense. Excuse me... hi
        3. stone
          stone 22 September 2019 16: 19
          0
          Forgot more slaves - Norway, the Netherlands, Italy, Turkey would still want to. The French are kind of doing it for now. So at the expense of smarter and slaves, not everything is as simple as it seems to some.
      3. Nycomed
        Nycomed 21 September 2019 23: 51
        0
        Then let the CSTO drop everything and are guaranteed to acquire the Su-57, as well as the BRICS countries. Why not"?
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 21 September 2019 20: 04
      +14
      Gentlemen, before 2024 of the year we will have 50 of these machines. You tell us that you will count every couple? request Boring after all.
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 September 2019 21: 03
        +3
        Why it is boring, you are the testing ground for fine-tuning F - 35 and it is your opinion that you polish it.
      2. NN52
        NN52 21 September 2019 22: 34
        +2
        For each pair, four missiles ... Cheap and cheerful.)
    5. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 21 September 2019 21: 03
      -1
      F-35 fighters have already released about 500 pieces. Su-57 is still about six pieces .. Does it seem to me alone that I should push it?

      > 425-pcs.
      1. Saxahorse
        Saxahorse 22 September 2019 18: 37
        +1
        Quote: Jack O'Neill
        > 425-pcs.

        About a month ago, here on Topvar, there was news about the installation of the 500-th body of the F-35 aircraft on an assembly slip. I don’t know what their production cycle length is, but most likely the 500 is ready.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 22 September 2019 21: 06
          -1
          About a month ago, here on Topvar, there was news about the installation of the 500-th body of the F-35 aircraft on an assembly slip. I don’t know what their production cycle length is, but most likely the 500 is ready.


          https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2019/09/03/lockheed-makes-its-pitch-to-polish-industry-in-exchange-for-f-35-deal/
          1. Saxahorse
            Saxahorse 22 September 2019 21: 44
            +1
            Well, yes, so they write to Lockheed:
            So far, we've delivered 425 F-35s, and we're on track to deliver 131 this year.

            We have already delivered 425 aircraft at this time (2019 \ 09 \ 03) and will ship another 131 aircraft this year.

            It turns out that they are now issuing on 32 F-35 aircraft per month. The pace of wartime production is practically ..
            1. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 22 September 2019 22: 18
              -1
              It turns out that they are now issuing on 32 F-35 aircraft per month. The pace of wartime production is practically ..

              Conveyor..
    6. Tusv
      Tusv 21 September 2019 22: 08
      +2
      Quote: Saxahorse
      Su-57 is still about six pieces .. It seems to me alone that it would be necessary to push?

      You can push, but you can slowly go down the mountain. Until recently, the Su -57 was like a be neither a village nor a city. But now it's wow. There are no opponents. Pride
    7. The mouthpiece of the Kremlin
      The mouthpiece of the Kremlin 22 September 2019 01: 05
      -7
      Six pieces?))) Only the installation lot was 12 pieces, and now they generally print like pies
  2. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 19: 30
    -4
    In general, this base seems to be near Beersheba. It is nevertheless closer to Gaza. Although Israel is close to any border
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 21 September 2019 19: 49
      +4
      Quote: Ken71
      Although Israel is close to any border

      Right! As to Israel from any border.
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 19: 50
        -5
        Vova, read your phrase. IMHO you said stupidity.
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 21 September 2019 20: 24
          +2
          When it comes to Israel, then talking simply about the border, as a certain line that defines the territory of the state, is not necessary! According to the Israelis themselves, they are surrounded by hostile states. So, the confrontation is also close to the border of any state that is a neighbor of Israel. And sooner or later, but it will affect. Centennial wars between Arabs, with such a neighbor, are unlikely.
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 20: 29
            -6
            A border is a line dividing countries. Israel to the left, Jordan to the right. From which any border is close to Israel. Well blurted out stupidity, but do not dig it.
            1. Vladimir61
              Vladimir61 21 September 2019 22: 02
              -1
              You even take a look at the map, otherwise you will assume that Israel is "on the left", Jordan "on the right," and the rest is the Mediterranean Sea. Or you, with your starry "nickname" do not consider other countries - so "territories of global interest."
              1. Kenxnumx
                Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 22: 15
                0
                That is, they decided to dilute your stupidity with geography. May be enough.
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 21 September 2019 19: 53
    +5
    You need to be objective and understand one thing. Sooner or later, the Americans will finish the 35. In terms of electronics, for sure. They do not need to have a super-maneuverable aircraft, this is not possible. We need a workhorse, sooooo expensive, which you can constantly modernize and suck in for big grandmothers to vassals.
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 19: 56
      -1
      They need the infrastructure tied to them
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 September 2019 22: 52
      -2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      They don’t have to have a super maneuverable plane,

      Don't you think you're wrong?
      US Air Force Buy New F-15X Super Eagle
      F-15X Super Eagle complements F-22 and F-35
      Updated with the latest technology, the F-15X carries “only” 22 missiles thanks to Boeing's new AMBER missile racks. This weapon level will allow the F-15X to operate. as a missile carrier for stealth fighters such as the F-22 Raptor and F-35 and will work together with stealth aircraft
    3. xax
      xax 22 September 2019 00: 00
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Need a workhorse, sooooo expensive

      A workhorse cannot be expensive, a priori. She is not a thoroughbred stallion.
      1. yaros
        yaros 22 September 2019 02: 57
        0
        There is another opinion, for example, it is beneficial for us that more penguins riveted http://www.iarex.ru/articles/70227.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com I have seen such articles in the American press, so not everything is rosy as our Jewish friends paint it ....
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 21 September 2019 19: 57
    +2
    Only let the Israelis do not fit into scams such as protecting the Saudis' oil fields, otherwise who knows what the Haussis may have up their sleeve for a trump card? Suddenly there really is already C700 "Wolfovich" ?? lol
    1. Dmitry Vinner
      Dmitry Vinner 21 September 2019 20: 51
      +3
      = Just let the Israelis do not fit into scams such as protecting the Saudi oil fields =
      What for? Just yesterday, the people at the VO discussed = It is stated that the positions of the Iranian forces in Abu Kemal allegedly bombed the Saudi Arabian Air Force together with Israel = The question is, what is this joint preparation for? The Americans and the Israelites flocked long ago. Americans with the Saudis are the same. Here the Israelites and the Saudis work together in heaven and the three of them begin. And there are a total of about 1000 modern aircraft. The Americans, for the first case, will have their air defenses pulled up and will begin. What's wrong?
      Not all these games for children .. I don’t know who bombed KSA, but the one who did it clearly suffers from a mental illness. One needs to understand the East a little. It is impossible in the east not to fulfill your obligations to protect. And the KSA and the UAE asked for such protection yesterday. So she will be. And they will not all sit and wait for the next blow. The answer will be ready. And the report has already gone. And Trump understands this very well. Unlike Obama, whom the Arabs did not consider a peasant.
  5. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    0
    Quote: Saxahorse
    F-35 fighters have already released about 500 pieces. Su-57 is still about six pieces .. Does it seem to me alone that I should push it?

    ***
    The temporary lag of the USSR from the West sometimes allowed the USSR to create better weapons than Western ones already launched into the series. But this was not all. But there was a place.
    On the other hand, there were both developments and production of equipment that excelled Western models.
    I believe that in this case with the SU-57 this is exactly what will happen. The problems, of course, are already in the possibilities of production, in the production process to maintain quality, to achieve the right amount, well, and the conformity of operation with the products themselves.
    F-35 fighters have already released about 500 pieces. There are still six Su-57s ... well, the enemy has a human potential of one billion people, and the economy is much more powerful, and the costs of defense (attack) are of a different order. This is objective.
  6. cniza
    cniza 21 September 2019 21: 01
    +4
    Israeli Air Force received another pair of F-35I Adir fighters


    I have the impression that Israel is most interested and invests in fine-tuning this aircraft.
  7. K-50
    K-50 21 September 2019 21: 18
    +1
    The base has a good location: fifth-generation Israeli fighters can perform tasks without refueling in the airspace of Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, most of Egypt and Iraq, as well as parts of Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
    Isn’t it your own sky? Do you have to get into the neighbors?
    Then they are surprised that they are being driven from everywhere by filthy rags. fool
  8. xax
    xax 21 September 2019 23: 39
    -1
    Israeli affairs are so interesting. It is good that at VO we are constantly kept informed. After all, Israel is not a state, in terms of GDP, going somewhere after Myanmar (and even lower than Ukraine), but without five minutes a world power))
    1. Freemason Mason
      Freemason Mason 22 September 2019 00: 02
      -1
      Quote: xax
      Israeli affairs are so interesting. It is good that at VO we are constantly kept informed. After all, Israel is not a state, in terms of GDP, going somewhere after Myanmar (and even lower than Ukraine), but without five minutes a world power))

      Russian affairs are so interesting. It is good that at VO we are constantly kept informed. After all, Russia is not a state, in terms of GDP, going somewhere after Brazil (and even lower than Canada with a 30 millionth population), but without five minutes a world power))

      That's better? You can minus, but: it’s stupid to judge other countries without going into details, in this case such as: only 6 million people live in Israel, while it has a developed military-industrial complex, the best medicine in the world, advanced technologies, nuclear weapons, etc. .

      Please don't do that hi
      1. xax
        xax 22 September 2019 00: 12
        -8
        First, Russia is our mother. And that’s all said.

        Secondly, after Germany and above Brazil.
        Thirdly, 10 positions higher than Canada.
        Fourth, a good 50 positions higher than Israel.

        It turns out - are you lying? Very unpleasant.

        Next on the list:
        The developed defense industry of Israel-in Ukraine and even more developed.
        Israel's best medicine in the world - what are you talking about? Straight laugh makes his way. According to the WHO, your infant mortality, for example, is going through the roof - because the technology of generic medicine is like in the Stone Age. In Russia (with all its problems with medicine), things are much better with this. Some go to Israel for treatment, not because it’s better there, but because it’s cheaper there (compare with paid medicine in Germany, the USA or in Russia). And on cheapness, you lose quality.
        High technology - what are you talking about? Drip irrigation for radishes to grow in the desert and supply to Russia? )) Or what?
        1. Alexzn
          Alexzn 22 September 2019 08: 34
          +1
          Secondly, after Germany and above Brazil.
          Thirdly, 10 positions higher than Canada.
          Fourth, a good 50 positions higher than Israel.

          It turns out - are you lying? Very unpleasant.

          Next on the list:
          The developed defense industry of Israel-in Ukraine and even more developed.
          Israel's best medicine in the world - what are you talking about? Straight laugh makes his way. According to the WHO, your infant mortality, for example, is going through the roof - because the technology of generic medicine is like in the Stone Age.

          Let's start ...
          At face value in dollars, Russia's GDP is still less than Brazilian and Canadian! This PPP situation is slightly corrected.
          If you compare GDP with Israel, then per capita, because the population of the Russian Federation is 16 times greater than Israel! And then the Russian GDP loses 1,5-2 times ...
          The military-industrial complex of Ukraine is more voluminous and in some areas more developed than in Israel, of course, but Ukraine is 5 times larger than Israel, and there are a lot of areas where the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is clearly inferior.
          About medicine in general is nonsense. Infant mortality in Israel is 2,2 times (!!!) lower than in Russia (2,9 versus 6,6). It’s best to talk about medicine by comparing life expectancy in Russia and Israel ...
          It turns out that someone is really lying!
          1. xax
            xax 22 September 2019 21: 42
            +3
            Quote: AlexZN
            PPP situation is slightly corrected

            Not a bit corrected, but it looks exactly as I wrote.
            Quote: AlexZN
            If Israel is compared with Israel, then per capita

            Why suddenly, if we compare the importance of countries on the world stage? There is a tiny population, of course, a minus and not a plus.
            Quote: AlexZN
            but Ukraine is 5 times bigger than Israel

            So what, then, to shout about the developed military-industrial complex? Use at least formulations like: "a relatively developed military-industrial complex for such a small country." It's funny to read.
            Quote: AlexZN
            Infant mortality in Israel is 2,2 times (!!!) lower than in Russia (2,9 versus 6,6).

            Did you draw data from that clumsy table on Wikipedia, in which the sum about the European Union, for example, does not converge? Take the trouble to open WHO data.
            Quote: AlexZN
            It turns out that someone is really lying!

            Your first - lied clearly and frankly. After you have caught him by the hand, you are already more cautious - you are doing it (yes, the GDP is bigger, but the country is more ... yes the defense industry is developed, but the country is more ... not PPP, but absolute ... And so on). I hope to bring you to such a state that there is nowhere to bother.
        2. Professor
          Professor 22 September 2019 09: 25
          +2
          Quote: xax
          First, Russia is our mother. And that’s all said.

          What have you brought your mother to?

          Quote: xax
          Secondly, after Germany and above Brazil.

          Between Germany and Indonesia by GDP, but by GDP per capita between Greece and Saint Kitts and Nevis. 74th place in the world.

          Quote: xax
          Thirdly, 10 positions higher than Canada.

          Per capita exactly 40 (forty) positions BELOW Canada.

          Quote: xax
          The developed defense industry of Israel-in Ukraine and even more developed.

          It seems to me you are lying. Or can you prove your theory with facts?
          https://www.army-technology.com/features/arms-exports-by-country/
          Israel is one of the world's top ten arms exporters. Ukraine is not.

          Quote: xax
          Israel's best medicine in the world - what are you talking about? Straight laugh makes his way. According to the WHO, your infant mortality, for example, is going through the roof - because the technology of generic medicine is like in the Stone Age. In Russia (with all its problems with medicine), things are much better with this.

          You wouldn’t laugh without a reason. Bad is a sign. fool
          Child mortality in Israel is 3.4 per 1000 newborns. In Russia, 6.7 per 1000 newborns. Those. almost 2 times more than in Israel. By the way, this is the 204th place in the world from the bottom up. Russia is ahead of Israel in infant mortality by 42 (forty-two) points, CEP.
          Maternal mortality in Israel is 5 per 100 women in labor. In Russia, 000 per 25. five times more than in Israel.
          And this is taking into account 20% of the Arab population of Israel. Continue educational program?

          Quote: xax
          Some go to Israel for treatment, not because it’s better there, but because it’s cheaper there (compare with paid medicine in Germany, the USA or in Russia). And on cheapness, you lose quality.

          1. Why are they going? In Russia, is it even cheaper or generally free?
          2. Prices for treatment in Germany and Israel are comparable:
          http://steinbach-med.de/kosten
          https://topclinic.ru/kardioxirurgiya-v-izraile/#price-cardiac-surgery

          Quote: xax
          High technology - what are you talking about? Drip irrigation for radishes to grow in the desert and supply to Russia? )) Or what?

          Or what. By the way, drip irrigation is one of a million examples of high technologies of which we have plenty in all areas: from wastewater treatment to space.

          Quote: xax
          The only thing considered to be developed in Israel is jewelry processing

          It was in the late 70s, early 80s. Since then, the share of diamonds in Israeli exports has been steadily declining. By the way, in this area, Israeli high-tech has proved itself. For example, automatic scanning of a stone and building an optimal cut model to minimize losses.
          1. xax
            xax 22 September 2019 22: 03
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            here's per capita GDP

            GDP per capita relative to the country's weight on the world stage is not an interesting indicator. The value of the country's GDP is what is reasonable to consider.
            Quote: Professor
            It seems to me you are lying

            What are you, quite the opposite - you.
            According to the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, this is a piece, although half-decomposed, of the most powerful defense industry of the USSR. Israel, of course, was not standing near. Export is not an indicator.
            Quote: Professor
            Israeli infant mortality 3.4

            The tables on the Wikipedia that you used are not compiled correctly. This follows at least from the introduction to it, which describes the inconsistencies in the data on the European Union given in this table. Take the trouble to open WHO data, it is publicly available.
            Quote: Professor
            1. Why are they going? In Russia, is it even cheaper or generally free?

            Paid medicine in Russia is often more expensive than in Israel. We are not talking about free.
            Quote: Professor
            2. Prices for treatment in Germany and Israel are comparable:

            For example (from your non-representative references): coronary artery bypass grafting in Germany (on average) 25 thousand euros, in Israel 19 thousand dollars. A bunch of concomitant payments are still dripping here - and then those who do not have enough money for normal treatment will go to Israel, where it is cheap.
            Quote: Professor
            drip irrigation is one of a million examples of high technology

            If drip irrigation is high technology for Israel, then there is nothing to talk about on this subject, in principle.
            Quote: Professor
            It was in the late 70s, early 80s.

            I did not say that here Israel is ahead of the rest. I spoke only about the fact that at least here he is not far behind, and even our Alrosa periodically sends specialists to study there. What is the problem with your 70s, 80s? Just a bet to argue?
            1. Professor
              Professor 23 September 2019 10: 09
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              Quote: xax
              GDP per capita relative to the country's weight on the world stage is not an interesting indicator. The value of the country's GDP is what is reasonable to consider.

              Of course interesting. A large country with a poor population is of little interest to anyone. Everyone is fawning on Singapore, not Nigeria. Be that as it may, you are 40 points behind Canada.

              Quote: xax
              What are you, quite the opposite - you.
              According to the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, this is a piece, although half-decomposed, of the most powerful defense industry of the USSR. Israel, of course, was not standing near. Export is not an indicator.

              Export is one of the indicators. Israel has an almost complete range of defense industry products. Ukraine is not near. After all, we are not discussing the year 1991, but the 2019th year in which Israeli weapons are in service with Russia and Ukraine, and not Russian and Ukrainian weapons in Israel.

              Quote: xax
              The tables on the Wikipedia that you used are not compiled correctly. This follows at least from the introduction to it, which describes the inconsistencies in the data on the European Union given in this table. Take the trouble to open WHO data, it is publicly available.

              I do not use a wiki. I have reliable sources.
              https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/

              Quote: xax
              Paid medicine in Russia is often more expensive than in Israel. We are not talking about free.

              Syrylochki in the studio, Mr. Sovramshi.

              Quote: xax
              For example (from your non-representative references): coronary artery bypass grafting in Germany (on average) 25 thousand euros, in Israel 19 thousand dollars. A bunch of concomitant payments are still dripping here - and then those who do not have enough money for normal treatment will go to Israel, where it is cheap.

              Where are your "representative links"? In "mine" bypass surgery in Israel and Germany costs almost the same.
              The country with the most developed and cheapest medical tourism does not see Russian clients. How so?

              Quote: xax
              If drip irrigation is high technology for Israel, then there is nothing to talk about on this subject, in principle.

              With you, there really is nothing to talk about, because in your opinion, drip irrigation is just a tube with a hole. Then you are surprised that Israel delivers products to Russia, and not vice versa. Tell us about the average milk yield for an Israeli cow and a Russian one.

              Quote: xax
              I did not say that here Israel is ahead of the rest. I spoke only about the fact that at least here he is not far behind, and even our Alrosa periodically sends specialists to study there. What is the problem with your 70s, 80s? Just a bet to argue?

              Israel WAS in this area ahead of the rest. Now this is not so.

              You can argue with a person with knowledge. You do not belong to such. Learn the materiel.
      2. xax
        xax 22 September 2019 00: 17
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        The only thing that is considered developed in Israel is jewelry processing. Well, I'm sorry, classic). And even then everything is not so simple. A comrade from Alrosa told how he was taken there for training: "The stone," the old Jew told him, "must be felt!"
        1. Alexzn
          Alexzn 22 September 2019 08: 49
          -2
          Quote: xax
          The only thing that is considered developed in Israel is jewelry processing.

          Connoisseur! 90% of diamond processing has long been outside Israel, although it remains a Jewish business. Cutting has long been done in cheap countries, primarily in India and Russia.
          1. xax
            xax 22 September 2019 22: 05
            +5
            But you see, even that which in Israel used to be more or less not bad is now rolling in tartarara.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 22 September 2019 06: 26
      -2
      Quote: xax
      Israeli affairs are so interesting.

      Israel ranked 38th with $ 36
      Russia is on the 51st line with 27,9 thousand dollars.
      But this is interesting!
      1. xax
        xax 22 September 2019 22: 06
        +3
        This is not an indicator of the importance of a country on the world stage.
        And if we talk purely about the standard of living, then the 38th line, this is not at all something that might be interesting to someone. But we are not even talking about that.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 22 September 2019 22: 11
          -4
          Quote: xax
          But you see, even that which in Israel used to be more or less not bad is now rolling in tartarara.

          It's about IT who's heading where.
          1. xax
            xax 22 September 2019 22: 19
            +4
            Is Israel heading for world power status? In this dimension, Israel is a flat object that, by definition, cannot roll.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 22 September 2019 22: 29
              -4
              Quote: xax
              Israel is a flat thing that, by definition, cannot roll.

              You're right!
              "which, by definition, cannot roll."
              He is 71 years old (unlike!) On the spot and thriving (unlike) from those who are steadily rolling in the direction of their predecessor.
              1. xax
                xax 22 September 2019 22: 34
                +3
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                You're right!

                Those. Do you agree that Israel, a small-town state whose affairs are of no interest to anyone, by the way, and the article in the Russian military about two airplanes that flew into the air force of this country, looks really stupid?
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 22 September 2019 22: 49
                  -3
                  Quote: xax
                  Those. do you agree,

                  Quote: xax
                  "which, by definition, cannot roll."

                  Yes, I agree with that.
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  He is 71 years old (unlike!) On the spot and thriving (unlike) from those who are steadily rolling in the direction of their predecessor.

                  Do you agree with that?
                  If not, please provide arguments and please without la
                  1. xax
                    xax 22 September 2019 22: 56
                    +3
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    Yes, I agree with that.

                    No need to bustle. My question is clear. Please answer. No la la.
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 23 September 2019 08: 03
                      -3
                      Quote: xax
                      Israel is a small-town state whose affairs are of no interest to anyone, by and large,

                      Quote: xax
                      Please answer. No la la.

                      On the top line, click on the magnifier.
                      In the line that opens, write: "INFORMATION ABOUT ISRAEL"
                      Hundreds of articles about Israel and tens of hundreds of comments are revealed to you.
                      Perhaps you are not interested in things in ISRAEL, then do not read or write.
                      But your "WORK WHICH To no one NOT INTERESTING "just not relevant.
                      Kindly DO NOT ANSWER.
  9. Goshat
    Goshat 22 September 2019 00: 52
    +4
    And how to put a minus article?
  10. The mouthpiece of the Kremlin
    The mouthpiece of the Kremlin 22 September 2019 01: 10
    -4
    I don’t care, now the SCO exercises are underway, half of the planet’s population, military power is twice as much as NATO’s, that’s the force
    1. Geo
      Geo 22 September 2019 01: 24
      +3
      Yes, there are those teachings of half the world's population, that’s 2 boards that entered the army of an agrarian state that exists on a US subsidy and that’s the news, yes)))
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  12. Shahno
    Shahno 22 September 2019 08: 50
    +2
    Quote: Geo
    Yes, there are those teachings of half the world's population, that’s 2 boards that entered the army of an agrarian state that exists on a US subsidy and that’s the news, yes)))

    Nothing ... I'll just quote.
    "Russians and Israelis are one family with a common history" - Putin
    The Russian leader made this statement during his speech at the congress of the Keren Hayesod Foundation in Moscow.
    And so your opinion about the agrarian country is very informative.
    1. xax
      xax 22 September 2019 22: 15
      +4
      Quote: Shahno
      at the Congress of the Keren Hayesod Foundation

      When I entered the university, the rector gathered our faculty and said this: "Your faculty is my favorite!" We were flattered. And then it turned out that he said the same to everyone. Politics (at all its levels) is a dirty business.
      1. xax
        xax 22 September 2019 22: 16
        +3
        I observe that the topic of Jewish airplanes is interesting only to those who write in it about its disinterest)))))
        Funny.
  13. Shahno
    Shahno 22 September 2019 18: 44
    -3
    Quote: Saxahorse
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    > 425-pcs.

    About a month ago, here on Topvar, there was news about the installation of the 500-th body of the F-35 aircraft on an assembly slip. I don’t know what their production cycle length is, but most likely the 500 is ready.

    Well, don't worry. They are just "penguins".
    PS. But it will be Israeli fighting penguins. Here at a time to think. 50 Penguins laughing
  14. Ekvizitor
    Ekvizitor 24 September 2019 14: 49
    0
    Now the SR will be something to kick the Russians!