WP: Trump believes that American actions in Ukraine annoy Russia

In the American edition of The Washington Post, material was released that presented the assessment by the US president of the situation in Ukraine. At the same time, the publication refers to an unnamed interlocutor who stated that he knows the position of Donald Trump on this issue. The material noted that the statement was made by a former representative of the American administration.

The statement of the retired WP official is as follows:

The president’s position is such that the following fact should be recognized in the USA: Russia should be our friend, and Ukraine should not worry us much.

The same person quoted by The Washington Post said that the American president allegedly professes the idea that the current US actions in Ukraine are not only useless for the US itself, but also annoy Russia.

Earlier in Ukraine, it was announced that Presidents Trump and Zelensky will hold a meeting on September 25 - at the UN General Assembly, where both gather for a speech. However, WP argues that the date of a possible meeting between Trump and Zelensky has not yet been agreed.

Recall that a meeting of the current presidents of the United States and Ukraine in Poland did not take place earlier. There Trump, being invited to a memorial ceremony on the occasion of the 80 anniversary of the outbreak of World War II, decided not to fly, citing Hurricane Dorian. Instead, he sent Mike Pence - the vice president - who ultimately made an ambiguous statement that "Poland is a strong and amazing country that has managed to turn a nightmare defeat into a great victory."

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[Hagalaz]

Trump can count anything. But the general line of the United States has been and will remain the same. Namely, aimed at irritating, provoking, deterring and weakening Russia.
The states are able to make friends only with the weak, and even then, this friendship is very peculiar and dangerous.

[Svarog]

Quote: Hagalaz

The states are able to make friends only with the weak, and even then this friendship is very peculiar and dangerous.

So we are such. Now the United States wants to be friends against China, and Ukraine is really tired of them all, it is of little use.

[Hagalaz]

As for me, the words that everyone is tired of Ukraine are nothing more than a beautiful slogan. Yes, she worked the minimum program and so far without much need. But nobody is going to completely abandon her. And about friendship, so, fog, a timid attempt to breed the alleged sucker.

[Svarog]

Quote: Hagalaz

As for me, the words that everyone is tired of Ukraine are nothing more than a beautiful slogan.

I think that Ukraine has played its part, at least the United States and Europe say so, they think that the main task has been completed, Ukraine has been torn from Russia for a long time. I think that was what their main goal was .. But here they can make a big mistake .. The Russians can quarrel a lot and then make friends no less strongly .. Also, Ukraine has become burdensome from the point of view of a constant infusion of money, and Trump is a businessman, he does not like to invest into dubious projects .. It is likely that Trump wants to somehow exchange Ukraine .... they say it is not interesting to us, but you shouldn't .. but here I don’t know what they are bargaining for, you can only guess .. But when Zelensky won \ Kolomoisky, I immediately crept in the idea that they plan to merge Ukraine .. merge not in the sense of pushing into the arms of Russia, but in the fact that the machinations will stop building ..

Quote: Hagalaz

And about friendship, so, fog, a timid attempt to breed the alleged sucker.

That's for sure..

[Hagalaz]

The minus is not mine, but I do not agree. I do not agree that Ukraine has won back. In the eyes of the Americans, it was and remains an excellent battering ram against Russia in the event of an extreme aggravation of relations. What would come of this, another question, there is a fair share in your words.
Well, by their standards, their inflows into Independent are not so great, given their possibilities. With a focus on the fact that when it can "shoot". Under the USSR, they also spent, in particular, and for example on dissidents, not knowing for sure that it would work. But it worked, along with a lot more.
Well and yes, Trump’s desire to save himself can take place, with a minimum of costs and with a mass of blah blah blah in support. But here in the role of sucker Ukraine.

[Svarog]

Quote: Hagalaz

I do not agree that Ukraine has won back. In the eyes of the Americans, it was and remains an excellent battering ram against Russia in the event of an extreme aggravation of relations.

The fact of the matter is that Ukraine, according to the Americans, will not go anywhere anyway ... (this is why it has already played its role) They managed, in fact, to tear it from Russia, but in any situation it will now remain in the orbit of the USA ( American opinion) ... so why now spend money on it? That is what I want to say. And we need to take Ukraine into its orbit ..

[Edik]

Quote: Svarog

And we need to take Ukraine into its orbit ..

Fuck it, and the thing is over! Is that what you meant?

[dauria]

But here in the role of sucker Ukraine.

First, Ukraine (as well as the others) was torn away from Russia not by the Americans, but by the interests of the national bourgeois, striving to preserve their "allotments."
And they will not voluntarily surrender them even without US support. Appanage princes, except with a sword and "hanging on their own gates of the third day" can not be forced to return. So the suckers are just hard workers, not the top.
Second, the US needs from Russia, if not an alliance against China, then at least a "hostile" neutrality.

So ... yes. The states will "be friends" with Russia, putting pressure on it through Ukraine as well.

[Vodrak]

Well, I do not.
Ukraine did not win back.
The West needs a smoldering conflict on the border of the Russian Federation. This is a good place for any scenario.

[Proxima]

Quote: Hagalaz

As for me, the words that everyone is tired of Ukraine are nothing more than a beautiful slogan.

It’s bad that this beautiful slogan (but in fact it’s true) retired officials say! Where were you truthful when you were in execution? And here, on you, now he, as a private person (read - no one), “takes courage” to cut the truth-womb about Ukrainian affairs.

[cormorant]

I have a feeling that US support for Ukraine is such an excuse to explain the absence of any intelligible actions in Ukraine for some senior comrades.

[Vadim237]

"This is how we are .." Who is "We" - you can be.

[Chaldon48]

The whole question is how much the current leadership of Russia is ready to fall into the arms of this "friendship" and what position China will take.

[figwam]

current US actions in Ukraine are not only useless for the US itself, but also annoy Russia.

What a visionary man.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Hagalaz

The states are able to make friends only with the weak, and even then, this friendship is very peculiar and dangerous.

The pot with the boiler made a great friendship,
Although the most notorious Kotel breed, ...
.....
.... Our pot does not lag behind the boiler
And he sits down on one cart with him.
Friends set off on a shaking pavement ...
...
... whole house The boiler returned from the road,
And from Pot alone shards remained.
Reader, this fable is the simplest thought:
That equality in love and friendship is a holy thing.
Ivan Krylov "BOILER AND POT"[i] [/ i]

[Greg Miller]

Trump always has "seven Fridays a week" ... Today he says one thing, but tomorrow he says the opposite ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hagalaz

Trump can count anything. But the general line of the United States has been and will remain the same.

This line has been known since the United States appeared on the map, but the words of Trump or someone else are very relevant and make it clear

The president’s position is such that the following fact should be recognized in the USA: Russia should be our friend, and Ukraine should not worry us much.

that the US has its own interests above all else.

[Incvizitor]

As for me it will be completely stripped off, as sticky and thrown, it makes no sense to keep this suitcase without a handle.

[Nycomed]

So I mentioned it yesterday. And here, some "Land-Lease" someone tried to designate ... Trump does not need Ukraine, well, he is not interested in it. He would rather communicate with Puk from the DPRK.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nycomed

Trump does not need Ukraine, well, he is not interested in him. He is likely to communicate with Pook from the DPRK.

Because the behavior of the DPRK is predictable, and the behavior of Ukraine is not predictable.

[Nycomed]

Everything is right! If Ukraine, thanks to its agricultural production, can pass hunger, it’s easy, by the way. That Pook, without international support will not survive.

[parkello]

wow, someone dared to tell the truth. well, commendable.

[knn54]

-Ukraine should worry us a little.
"Dropped and thrown"?

[Rwmos]

Abandoned Kurds with Georgians began to sob somewhere. And in general, do not distract Danil Fedorych - he still has to take exams in Marxism-Leninism at the entire Phashington regional committee

[SSR]

Quote: knn54

-Ukraine should worry us a little.
"Dropped and thrown"?

Not even so.
The article expresses a thought from the category "Captain Evidence", our coat of arms even directly shows that we can look to the West and to the East, and if the United States wants to have more flexible relations and influence on Europe or Asia, then they need constructive relations with Russia.
They do not have so much electrical tape. )))
Everything else is the "nuances" of the Powers of the World level, then the regions and in descending order.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

-Ukraine should worry us a little.
"Dropped and thrown"?

All that is possible was sucked out, the "zhamka turi" remained.

[Sergey39]

It’s bad (for the USA) that they don’t have a common goal. These throwings from one extreme to another will lead to a fatal lag behind the Russian Federation and China.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey39

It’s bad (for the USA) that they don’t have a common goal.

They always have an Anglo-Saxon goal, but we do not know it.

[Sergey39]

The fact of the matter is that they do not know her either. One thing, then another. From one extreme to the other. Senior executives change one after another. Full confusion and reeling.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey39

The fact of the matter is that they do not know her either.

No, they just know that, for they are shown the goal, and they are fulfilling.

[Sergey39]

"They", "them" are extensible concepts. Conspiracy rules!

[Lipchanin]

Instead, he sent Mike Pence - the vice president - who ultimately made an ambiguous statement that "Poland is a strong and amazing country that has managed to turn a nightmare defeat into a great victory."

Well, a little troll, with whom it does not happen

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

Well, a little troll, with whom it does not happen

Poles are very fond of flattery. If you want to receive it, it will not decrease from me.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Poles are very fond of flattery. If you want to receive it, it will not decrease from me.

And in fact I put a loose stool on them

[Mountain shooter]

Bam, and sobbed both ... And Ze, and ... who is there in Georgia? Wow, what revelations from Washington went !!!

[cniza]

You didn’t count many ...

[shubin]

Ha, I discovered America! Many Russians are annoyed by the very existence of the United States, especially in VO!

[Alien From]

Mattresses listen, do not respect yourself! Balabol !!!

[cniza]

“The position of the president is such that the following fact should be recognized in the USA: Russia should be our friend, and Ukraine should not worry us much.

From these words, some people sweat one place ...

[Aliken]

Ukraine - a suitcase without a handle.

[kot423]

Quote: Svarog

And so we are.

"What is your evidence" Red heat. ©

[kutuz]

"refers to an unnamed interlocutor" - another fake for "Hurray for patrills."

[Sniper]

"The US must admit the following fact: Russia should be our friend, and Ukraine should not worry us much." -gold words, and most importantly, the wise speaks Donald John Trump !! and the US Congress should heed this truth!

[Kontrik]

Russia should be our friend, and Ukraine should not worry us much

Gold words ! But Trump, in his campaign promise, put it at the top of the program (he won the election because of this, unlike Russophobia Hillary), but he was not allowed to fulfill this promise by the US Jewish congress! But not yet supper \ ...

[Berkut24]

Trumps come and go, but the Deep State remains. Americans leave the developed clearing only when it becomes too expensive to maintain it, or when the number of corpses of American citizens begins to exceed the psychological threshold allowed in the next US elections.

[LeonidL]

The "Deep State", or "World Backstage" cannot be identified not only with the United States, but even with the ruling elite of the country, for the most part these are not citizens and even less patriots of America, but copradors, mostly of the Anglo-Saxons, who do not care about America ... For them, only their corporate interests around the world are important. Trump's choice served this secret community with the first serious slap in the face in years. Countries, parties and governments for the World Backstage are nothing more than replaceable tools in the global game and it easily changes them, throwing the old ones to the dump.

[Masha]

Russia should be our friend

should be a friend, but is, in the US opinion, an "aggressor" ...

Ukraine should not worry us much.

but every day they care more and more
something like this.....

[Terenin]

ambiguous statement that "Poland is a strong and amazing country that has managed to turn a nightmare defeat into a great victory."

That is, the Poles lived in a nightmare defeat, did not grieve - 70 years ??? Well, well, let's see how they will be able to die for a "great victory"

[APASUS]

Trump is a hostage of internal confrontation. Any sober statement of his, is instantly criticized and presented as weakness, and even as a betrayal.

[LeonidL]

"The position of the president is such that the United States should recognize the following fact: Russia should be our friend, and Ukraine should not worry us much." - Words of the Great President! Let these words go to God!

[NF68]

How did he guess? Or did autumn influence?