In Turkey, after the flight of the Su-35, the American F-16 was called "garbage"

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The shown aerobatics by Russian pilots in Istanbul left the most lively responses by Turkish citizens - both specialists and ordinary residents of the country. Recall that the Su-35 showed a number of its capabilities in terms of maneuvering and performing aerobatics as part of the Teknofest 2019 festival of military and dual-use technologies.

In Turkey, after the flight of the Su-35, the American F-16 was called "garbage"




The easiest way to find out the opinion of Turkish citizens about the Russian 4 ++ generation combat aircraft is to get acquainted with the comments they left under the video with footage of the Su-35 flight in Istanbul sky.

It must be noted that in general, Turkish users - those who watched the flight live, and those who got acquainted with the video, were left delighted with the capabilities of the Russian fighter.

Here are a few comments.

Metin Ekshi:
Watching the flight of this aircraft, I dreamed that this aircraft could become our fighter, manufactured at our factory. Today we do not need the American devil, but we need a Russian bear.


Phönix - Diriliş başladı:
This is much better than American trash! America does not take seriously anyone but Russia.

Another user called for abandoning "American garbage - F-16" and switch to Russian fighters.

TorvaK:
At 02: 34 Pugachev Cobra: the perfect combination of aerodynamics and powerful traction.


Yavuz Ortakchi:
We would rather participate in the production of Su-57.


Galip Sayyin:
It is not known whether the Russians will approve the transfer of technology, but if so, then it is worth buying 20-30 of such aircraft.


There are also attempts to joke - Turgay Tekdemir:
As if the pilot drank a glass of vodka and boarded the plane.


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  1. +13
    20 September 2019 17: 18
    Technology ... Hmm ... And "the key to the apartment, where is the money?"
    1. +66
      20 September 2019 17: 25
      The pilot is BEAUTIFUL! Just a sight for sake, not aerobatics! WENT - REWARDS! If I knew the name - of the Real Russian Man ... That's who you need to put in an Example and make Films !!! good
      1. -39
        20 September 2019 17: 31
        For God's sake, show respect for the Russian language. Read what a proper name is and in what cases it is used.
        1. 0
          20 September 2019 17: 41
          For God's sake, show respect for the Russian language. Read what a proper name is and in what cases it is used.

          It’s excusable for Russians to distort their language - rarely does anyone correctly pronounce such words as milk, of course, because -What, but for foreigners who know Russian, yes, it cuts the ear.
          1. +36
            20 September 2019 21: 48
            Don't take "Turkish user comments" seriously.
            Turkey habitually flirts with Russia and NATO.
            Yes, you must have the benefit of contacts. If possible, be friends. But never forget that this is Turkey.
            Downed Russian plane. The murder of the Russian ambassador. The creation of military bases in Syria. This is just what happened in recent years.
            1. +6
              21 September 2019 16: 52
              But never forget that this is Turkey.[i] [/ i]
              Yeah, forget the past - offend the ancestors ...
              1. 0
                23 September 2019 10: 55
                "Yeah, forget the Past"
                the last 100 years from the Turks are not many problems.
                the largest was, while Turkey was a member of NATO and there were American nuclear munitions at the American base
                moreover, when the USSR abandoned plans for direct annexation of the straits,
                Turkey has become a stabilizing factor on this part of the borders, and has also become a center of diversification of light industry with large commodity circulation.
                So the past must be remembered, but do not forget about the present.
                Of course, remembering what Turkey has done is useful, but it is worth remembering that Turkey did NOT. For example, she did not harness herself to the war on the side of the 3rd Reich, she did not lie completely under NATO, like the Baltic states or Poles.
                It may not be friends with the Turks, but striving to fight is simply stupid.
              2. -1
                18 October 2019 18: 32
                Quote: TANKISTONE
                But never forget that this is Turkey.[i] [/ i]
                Yeah, forget the past - offend the ancestors ...

                Yes, forget the past - offend the ancestors. But what does Turkey have to do with it? Well, they would say Bulgaria, which, after we freed it, quickly began to lay on us with parting and in both world wars was on the other side of the front line.
                1. 0
                  26 October 2019 15: 12
                  I did not mean Turkey, only the Turks. The same with Bulgaria: politicians and people are not the same ...
            2. 0
              23 September 2019 16: 48
              These comments are left by ordinary citizens. You can read reviews of other countries about us and our weapons. Personally, I was surprised when I googled "russian artillery" and read the comments. If written correctly. They think better of us than we do about them, and we about ourselves. It was nice to read other people's opinions.
              The rest is dirty politics and undercover games.
            3. -1
              18 October 2019 18: 19
              Quote: Shurik70
              Don't take "Turkish user comments" seriously.
              Downed Russian plane. The murder of the Russian ambassador. The creation of military bases in Syria. This is just what happened in recent years.

              Plane. How many times have they said that the order to bring down our plane was given by the conspirators who were preparing the overthrow of Erdogan.
              Ambassador. Even Kaiser Germany did not find in itself so much arrogance to accuse the government of Lenin and all the Bolsheviks of the murder of the German ambassador Mirbach in 1918.
              Turkish military bases in Syria? Where are they ? The fact that the Turks control part of the northern regions of Syria without the creation of military bases there is with our permission.
              And what was it before the "last years" came?
          2. +1
            21 September 2019 09: 13
            Yes, for sure, these wise men are sick of it, the Russian will always understand Russian and will not even notice how it is written, the Russian reads the meaning of what is written, and not how it is stated
            1. +8
              21 September 2019 10: 22
              Literacy has not been canceled. Either the person is literate or not. Ignorance of the rules of the mother tongue does not color anyone. If a person does not know his language and does not even want to learn it, what does this mean? The fact that he does not respect himself or others. Either he is lazy or stupid to learn the rules.
          3. +2
            21 September 2019 10: 12
            What do you call "right"? Milk pronounced through “a” according to phonetic analysis is precisely the correct pronunciation. So it is with other examples, we do not say crocodile. Read the rules of orthoepy.
            1. 0
              23 September 2019 16: 51
              Quote: Voyager
              What do you call "right"? Milk pronounced through “a” according to phonetic analysis is precisely the correct pronunciation. So it is with other examples, we do not say crocodile. Read the rules of orthoepy.

              Nevertheless, it is more pleasant to read competently composed sentences. I can’t boast myself, alas, but I would like to hi
          4. +4
            21 September 2019 11: 31
            especially me. I can forgive a foreigner for not knowing the grammar of the Russian language, but in Russian .. I can’t. in the same way, with the Greeks, of which there are so many, who do not know how to write correctly, in the verbs they write the usual I, but they should write EI (εί) or instead of omega they write omicron in the verbs (ο -ω) ... I want to give them in the eye. straight hands itch. (here in the word itches, the question is what do the hands do? the question is without a soft sign, it means we write it, without it, and if there was a question what hands will do after glass wool, they will of course scratch, oh how does it work for me when I see that even tys and tys can’t determine when to write, and when not, I really want them to poke a textbook on the Russian language, for the 6th grade and fill the face as it should. I take this as disrespect and insult to the nation, both among Greeks and among Russians. I myself can read and write in 4 languages ​​and I know 4 alphabets, Russian, Greek, Georgian and Latin. I read freely and in Church Slavonic, this was taught to me by the elders in the Russian monastery of St. Panteleimon on Mount Athos (North Greece) and can read how German, English and Albanian and Turkish who use the Latin script. I was taught in the Soviet school, as well as all of you, except the young ones ... and all that I was taught at school, I still remember, at least at three in the morning wake up and ask how it is written, I will answer. in any language. I respect all the languages ​​I speak and communicate. all the more native: Russian, Greek, Georgian, Turkish. they have nothing in common with each other, and I regret that I did not go to learn Hebrew and Arabic. but maybe I’m still lucky and learn to read both Arabic and Hebrew. and Russians should be ashamed of spelling. this is your native language, and what opinion they leave to foreigners I don’t want to write here. it's obvious . and there are a lot of us non-Russians who speak the language all over the world. even blacks and Arabs are also very capable of languages. it all starts with respect and on it it all ends. don't know how to write correctly? I can’t trust you ... you haven’t learned how to write correctly in your whole life, what can you talk about? school course, when they still don’t pay money, but already demand from you, and you slap those years ... when you could at least learn and not be dishonored when you grow up. This is a very serious topic, and excuses do not channel here. I grew up like this - I don’t know whether I have to learn or can get drunk on the wort, and until I learn, I will not open my mouth to blather. because every time I got it in the face from my father. not only did I disgrace myself, but also substituted him for ridicule and sarcastic comments. if you are contemptuous of the textbook and don’t know how to write correctly, then in the future you will have many problems. there are a lot of people like me, I will repeat with your permission, but among the Greeks and among Russians, and among other nationalities you will never gain respect for yourself if you make mistakes in spelling .. whether you are at least a jack of all trades. peace to all and prosperity. don’t be offended by me, at least I was frank with you and I’m not Julia and I’m not cunning. I say it as it is.
            1. +2
              21 September 2019 11: 58
              You said everything absolutely correctly! hi
              1. +1
                21 September 2019 12: 04
                I thank Andrey, first of all for understanding, and only then for everything else. hi be healthy and your pockets are heavier. we all walk under God, but few remember this.
                1. +1
                  21 September 2019 12: 21
                  I sincerely wish you the same! Under no circumstances should your family be ill or in need smile

                  While reading your comment, Vangelis music played in the columns. Coincidence? laughing
                  1. 0
                    21 September 2019 12: 28
                    I do not think wink already grown from the age when he believed in coincidence. all the more random. By the way, you can contact me too. we don’t like appealing to you. it seems to emphasize my age, and I'm still not that old, only 45. I'm still small feel and especially not a girl. that would be kind to me. although I confess that your respect is felt from the first lines and letters. Thanks you . my mood has risen. as much as trembling hands and a smile like that. laughing
                    1. +1
                      21 September 2019 12: 38
                      As my friend says, these are all mental waves wassat We will be from now on. It’s also more convenient for me, especially when I dotted i regarding mutual respect good
                      1. +1
                        21 September 2019 12: 45
                        my name is Yurgo, this is a derivative of George. I don’t know if your name is displayed, but I don’t see my avatar from the side. Maybe Zhora or Jorge or Yurgo .. (but at least call the pot a pot, just don’t put it in the oven)). that’s not the main thing, right? ) I think that we just do not flood by chance in this thread, otherwise the beasts of modera are here ... I'm afraid of them. I have already received 2 warnings, though not for flooding, but for a commuted mat, and for the second time in vain blundered by reputation. but in any case, talking with a good person is always pleasant and always uplifting, thanks for the positive Andrey and all the best to you, write if you have questions. any questions .
                      2. +1
                        21 September 2019 12: 59
                        I will reply to private messages
            2. xax
              +2
              22 September 2019 05: 14
              Quote: parkello
              I can forgive a foreigner for not knowing the grammar of the Russian language, but in Russian .. I can’t

              In this case, you should take the example of a memorable non-commissioned officer widow.
              Your cry from the heart is clearly missing capital letters, a big problem with punctuation marks, and besides:

              onnogo

              written with 1 "n"

              I myself can read and write in 4 languages ​​and I know 4 alphabets, Russian Greek, Georgian and Latin

              Shame on you, comrade!

              Quote: parkello
              I can read both German, English and Albanian and Turkish

              In German / Albanian / Turkish it is written exactly as I wrote. Repeating the error means that it is not a clerical error.

              And so on.
              Funny.
        2. +50
          20 September 2019 18: 25
          Quote: 777-3-59-97
          For God's sake, show respect for the Russian language. Read what a proper name is and in what cases it is used.

          For God's sake, stop being clever and acting as teachers of the Russian language here. People have gathered here from all ends of our globe. With different levels of education and knowledge of the Russian language. And here you are all squeezing into the "Procrustean bed". You better speak up on the topic, and not "dictations" here check, the teacher is unemployed.
          1. -43
            20 September 2019 18: 30
            As you said correctly. We speak many languages.
            And fxnumx or fxnumx is the quality standard ..
          2. -9
            20 September 2019 18: 30
            I completely agree and thank you for the foreigner
          3. +3
            20 September 2019 18: 47
            What's wrong with knowing your language well? And the statements "on the topic" should be the same, correctly voiced. And something, but the concept of "Procrustean bed" for the Russian language is absolutely not suitable. The Russian language is limitless. It cannot be "driven into frames". You just need to KNOW him, and for this you need to read a lot. Read both Russian classics and modern prose writers and poets. And a person who cannot speak his native language will treat the languages ​​of his neighbors in the same way, without respect. And nothing good will come of it. One must know and know one's own language, at least "satisfactorily". hi
            1. +7
              20 September 2019 20: 27
              good drinks fully support.
              1. +4
                21 September 2019 12: 29
                But once they were the most reading country ... sad At work, I sometimes intersect with children of elementary and middle grades with an educational goal. So they have a quiet horror in their heads. The two words cannot be linked verbally, not to mention spelling. Damn exam. And here are some other men who encourage all this.
                1. 0
                  18 October 2019 13: 33
                  What is the exam in elementary grades. This is all the Internet, computers and smartphones. The availability of information and unlimited access to it for fragile minds has the effect of dispersing attention and, as a result, cereal in the head. What to do with this is absolutely not clear ...
                  1. 0
                    18 October 2019 13: 55
                    On the exam began to drill precisely from the elementary grades. And your brains are composted on the topic that your whole path to school goes to the exam and from the early years they prepare for tests instead of normal written essays and other activities ...
          4. +1
            20 September 2019 21: 32
            I think if the meaning is clear for spelling it is not necessary to blame, but learns not when it is not too late to correctly write and express your thoughts.
            1. +2
              21 September 2019 09: 04
              Quote: tech3030
              I think if the meaning is clear for spelling it is not necessary to blame, but learns not when it is not too late to correctly write and express your thoughts.

              You suggest, until you learn and pass the exam in the Russian language, all those who write with errors should not be allowed on the site? laughing
          5. -3
            21 September 2019 00: 17
            Come on, well, they valnuli our plane, well, the ambassador mochkanuli-business then. The leadership of the Russian Federation is also not ready to endure such spitting in the face, for the sake of money it will not be tolerated either, this is called PRAGMATISM IN FOREIGN POLICY. About bases in Syria, no one is interested. But for this, the grub at the resorts is free, and the Russian aunts of Balzac and around Balzac’s age are as happy as Turkish men. In general, such a thing as national pride is not about modern dear Russians, it's about some other people, it seems they were called Russian. laughing
            1. +10
              21 September 2019 01: 42
              Quote: Russian Central Asia
              s. In general, such a thing as national pride is not about modern dear Russians, it's about some other people, it seems they were called Russian.

              So no wonder. Among Russians Russians are less and less. The Russian will never benefit above honor. And an honest person is initially in a losing position. And what is the national idea in Russia now? Correct the loot by any methods. Not a Russian idea.
              1. +3
                21 September 2019 02: 21
                Well, I'm talking about that, but judging by the number of minuses, dear Russians do not agree with me laughing Although everything is fine, people hate it when they are told the truth. smile
              2. -1
                22 September 2019 09: 41
                And in our government and other echelons of power, who is sitting? It seems like the Russians, Uzbeks and Tajiks do not seem to be visible.
                1. +1
                  22 September 2019 13: 11
                  I advise you to take a closer look at the genealogy of our elite, for example, ask about the maiden names of the mothers of our leaders, as well as with whom they were friends in childhood, with whom they trained. At first glance it seems, all this garbage has no meaning, but as old Freud said, all our problems come from childhood. Yes and genetics so immediately discard probably not worth it. Still, the set of genes that we receive from our ancestors is the only thing in our personality that we cannot change. In contrast, for example, from citizenship and religion. And this set of genes to a very large extent determines our mentality. And now, I beg you, you shouldn’t blame me for Nazism right away. winked
                  1. 0
                    22 September 2019 14: 36
                    If you are in the subject, write five names. Of course, like many others, I heard that they belong to surnames from the Middle East, but I did not specifically study
                    1. +1
                      22 September 2019 14: 46
                      I’ll probably refrain from writing surnames — people can take offense and ban me from such and such a mother; But I advise you to start from the very top itself, and then downward. If you thoughtfully approach this topic, you can very much understand what is happening.
                      1. 0
                        22 September 2019 14: 51
                        Well, what's the solution? Emigration?
                      2. 0
                        22 September 2019 15: 45
                        if you honestly don’t know. I’m already not very young, if not old. To go somewhere late, so somehow I doshkandyby here. It’s only a pity for the children. But I have the oldest son in a foreign legion, the youngest will grow up, probably also will go to serve in the legion. I regret a little that in due time - at the beginning of the 90s, I didn’t go to the legion myself, now it's too late. But time is no longer unwinding. And our current leadership will either bring the country to its collapse with its policies, or the country will remain, only the Russians will no longer be in it. angry request
                    2. +1
                      22 September 2019 14: 58
                      And, by the way, all these legends about how the deep-drilling office in Soviet times pursued individual representatives of one nation, the very one that, from BV, in my opinion, is just a beautiful legend brought into the people by these very representatives of that same people. It is enough just to look at the top managers of this same office, starting from POLISH SHLIAHTICH, HE WAS NOT A FIXED KSYONDZ and ending with one Komsomol leader with sick kidneys.
                  2. 0
                    24 September 2019 16: 52
                    Quote: Russian Central Asia
                    And now, I beg you, you shouldn’t blame me for Nazism right away.

                    I probably won't blame, but let me remind you that some "comrades" who determined the quality of people by the shape of the skull and the color of the eyes ended up very badly Yes
            2. +1
              21 September 2019 11: 51
              Actually, this applies more specifically to you. By the actions of thugs to judge the whole country. Thus, some "advanced" individuals prefer to judge Russia by the consumers of Boyarka, and about the West by the millionaires, not noticing the clochards.
              It is good that there are no such "advanced" people among people who make responsible decisions. You, dear sirs, would rather do things that are more appropriate for your education and social status.
              1. +2
                21 September 2019 14: 47
                Well, yes, well, yes, where are we going to get into foreign policy? Undoubtedly, the Turkish flyer at fe-16 and everyone who prepared this special guard, they are certainly marginalized Turkish society, and the policeman who valnal our ambassador is also a Turkish closhar. And the Turkish sultan is a man with a halo over his head. Only one story of the beginning of the 19th century is recalled. The same when the crowd of Persians defeated the Russian Embassy and killed an ambassador named Griboedov. I remember then the Persian Shah sent his son to St. Petersburg to beg forgiveness from Nikolai. And he took with him a bunch of redheads and pebbles as an apology. By the way, one of those pebbles was called - SHAH, Surely he would have sent the heads of the culprits in bags of salt, but there were no culprits - the crowd. And Nikolai for a long time thought to forgive the Persians or not. How much has changed since then winked
            3. 0
              21 September 2019 11: 52
              Quote: Russian Central Asia
              But for that, the grub at the resorts is free

              Vacation packages are free of charge? fool request
              1. 0
                21 September 2019 14: 31
                Honestly, I don’t know, I have never been to Turkey. But those who were, mostly female office plankton and lovers of free swill and grub, spoke very flattering about Turkish resorts. So I even somehow understand the GUARANTEE - you can’t deprive dear Russians of such happiness. smile
                1. +1
                  21 September 2019 14: 44
                  Quote: Russian Central Asia
                  Honestly, not in the know, never been to Turkey

                  In order to realize that there can be no free tours, it is not necessary to go to Turkey. People pay for it all. And everywhere you see a "freebie".
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2019 16: 07
                    You are a great clever, - stated the obvious thing, take the candy from the vase bully hi
                    1. +1
                      21 September 2019 17: 24
                      Quote: Russian Central Asian
                      You are a great clever, - stated the obvious thing, take the candy from the vase bully hi

                      Well, if "obvious things" are not available to your mind, then you have to explain.
                2. 0
                  21 September 2019 16: 44
                  You have a difficult life. It is difficult to bear the burden of hatred towards others. Once everyone lives, you too, and do not burden yourself, everything flows in its own way, this is the story of man and mankind, it was and will be so.
            4. 0
              22 September 2019 11: 19
              Quote: Russian Central Asia
              But for this, the grub at the resorts is free, and the Russian aunts of Balzac and around Balzac’s age are as happy as Turkish men. And in general, such a thing as national pride is not about modern dear Russians

              According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, since May 2019, 88 Russian citizens have died in Turkish resorts for various reasons, the youngest dead is 5 years old, the older age was not specified. This was announced in a news report on the channel "Russia 24" 2 days ago.
              And you say - the plane, the ambassador. Sorry, but in kind, directly in Turkey, only in 4 months more ordinary people died in 40 more than once than military personnel and ambassadorial workers, who anyway, but the risk of death is practically provided for by their professional activities. hi
              1. +2
                22 September 2019 12: 47
                Here you see what’s the matter, no matter how sorry we would be for those people who died in Turkey at the resorts, their death does not bear such damage to the country's reputation as the death of a pilot and ambassador. In the same Nepal, when trying to climb one of the 8-thousanders, more than a dozen climbers die, but this does not affect the reputation of Nepal, nor the reputation of the countries of which these climbers were citizens. These are just accidents, with everyone But the death of the pilot and the ambassador is a completely different story. In the first they were both service people, that is, they were part of the state. Secondly, their death is not an accident, it is a planned action. That is, in fact, in both cases, the Russian Federation was whipped on the cheeks. And the Russian Federation swallowed it and wiped it. And if in the cases of the pilot a simple Janissary was killed, then in the case of the ambassador, the Pasha was already killed, that is, it was not just the state that was slapped on the cheeks, but specifically the Sultan. And if the sultan swallowed it and wiped it out, then from the point of view of the Asian mentality, it turns out, as it were, not the sultan at all, but some kind of crap on the sultan’s throne. Perhaps from the point of view of the European point of view it looks something different, but from the point of view of the Asian point of view, it looks exactly like that.
                1. 0
                  22 September 2019 20: 13
                  Quote: Russian Central Asia
                  you see what’s the matter, no matter how sorry we would be for those people who died in Turkey at the resorts, their death does not bear such damage to the country's reputation as the death of a pilot and ambassador. In the same Nepal, when trying to climb one of the 8 thousand people, more than a dozen climbers die,

                  You see what’s the matter, once again - the pilot, ambassador and even climbers, by virtue of their profession, understand that they can die in the line of duty, they take into account, are aware of this risk, and in Nepal 4 climbers did not die in 88 months, and here 88 ... well, I don’t know what to call it, they bring it to all those leaving and stubbornly go to the place where the risk of death is higher than in the temporary department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Achkhoy = Martan or Gudermes at the beginning of 2000x. In 3 months, 4 employees died: two during the bombing and two in a shootout, and then 4 months - 88 people. 22 per month and still roll to these resorts. It turns out that people completely lack the instinct of self-preservation. A flock of sheep .... without a shepherd.
                  1. 0
                    23 September 2019 01: 40
                    Well, actually I wrote a little about that. A military man performing a combat mission on foreign territory, and even more so an ambassador, they, unlike ordinary tourists, do not represent themselves, but are representatives of the state and their murder, all the more deliberate and planned is not just the murder of any foreign citizens. And the insulting state, which they represent, moreover, the insulting mortal, requiring a compulsory response. IN THIS SITUATION IS THE REASON FOR ANNOUNCEMENT OF WAR, OR, AT LEAST, TERMINATION OF ALL DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS. THIS SITUATION IS ACCEPTED TO BE CALLED BELLY. It's like as if the nobleman received a slap in the face and not to cause the offender to a duel loses most of his noble rank, ITS hors SOCIETY AND in general is perceived as a nobleman, now everyone has every right to his face stuff, spat at him if you still do not understand , of what I wrote to you, well, what can I do about it. Read at least the Russian classics PUSHKIN, LERMONTOV.
                    1. +1
                      23 September 2019 12: 59
                      Quote: Russian Central Asia
                      And the insulting state, which they represent, moreover, the insulting mortal, requiring a compulsory response. IN THIS SITUATION IS THE REASON FOR ANNOUNCEMENT OF WAR, OR, AT LEAST, TERMINATION OF ALL DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS. THIS SITUATION IS ACCEPTED TO BE CALLED BELLY. It's like as if the nobleman received a slap in the face and not to cause the offender to a duel loses most of his noble rank, ITS hors SOCIETY AND in general is perceived as a nobleman, now everyone has every right to his face stuff, spat at him if you still do not understand , of what I wrote to you, well, what can I do about it. Read at least the Russian classics PUSHKIN, LERMONTOV.

                      Yeah, the Shah-in-Shah diamond for the murder of Ambassador A. Griboedov and something nobody spit in Russia’s face, and as I recall, she didn’t fight with Persia for his murder. Once again I’m not talking about ambassadors and the military, I'm talking about ordinary people who are poisoned with scorched whiskey, turned on buses on excursions, drowned on pleasure boats, and they all the same, like a dumb herd climb into this house ... called Turkish resorts, but how did Petrovich go to Turkey , and I?! Dunce !! And then they shout, save, help, the state should .. And by the way: nowadays
                      Quote: Russian Central Asia
                      Military man performing a combat mission on foreign territory
                      it is either a saboteur or an occupier, unless of course the government of that foreign territory where he is located has invited him.
                      1. 0
                        23 September 2019 14: 34
                        about the story of the murder of Griboedov, I wrote above, too lazy to repeat, look. As for a military man performing a combat mission in a foreign territory — did I write that the military was in this territory not at the invitation of the Syrian side, or that Syria had already become part of the Russian Federation. So also by. Well, about the fact that our people are so drawn to Turkey. Well, it’s also cold here, the sky is almost always gray from clouds. And people want warmth, blue sky, bright sun. Normal human desire. Our mediocre prosperity in our Central Asia, in which all this is abundant, and which our ancestors won for us. Now, here our people are reeling in Turkey, they are replenishing the Turkish budget. And what to do about the same Tahiti, the majority of the people have no money and never will, and not everyone has money for Turkey either. Sochi, Crimea, if you don’t rest wild with a tent, the prices are almost the same as in Turkey, at times more worthless service. Moreover, as I understand it, the leadership of the Russian Federation is quite happy with this situation. Well, yes, Russian tourists are dying. But the Kremlin somehow does not care. Here you personally have some specific suggestions on how to make Russian tourists spend their holidays in warm places, by the warm sea, with good service, safely and for little money. If there is, I’m ready to listen to them, if not, well, why the hell should I trample the clave for nothing hi
          6. 0
            21 September 2019 10: 23
            Now you can learn Russian without getting up from the couch. There would be a desire, as they say ...
      2. +1
        21 September 2019 19: 22
        I watch this beauty almost every day, they constantly train over my dacha. Somehow 57 even watched an indescribable sight! There is no time to work, you stand with your head up and enjoy :)
    2. -2
      20 September 2019 17: 29
      Well, we kind of have 57 on the way ... I guess you can sell.
      1. -12
        20 September 2019 17: 33
        "I guess you can sell."
        Technologies? Why not, and even better to exchange for tomatoes! good
        1. -6
          21 September 2019 00: 19
          It’s still a good idea to sell technology, but besides tomatoes, peaches are also growing in Turkey.
      2. +2
        20 September 2019 17: 41
        At MAKS-2019 I saw the flight of the Su-57 and Su-27 (or its modification, without PGO). It feels like 57 is executing the program more slowly, there isn’t that sharpness in actions like that of 27. But the Su-27 can handle a controlled flat-bottomed corkscrew.
        1. +9
          20 September 2019 18: 00
          Quote: Ural-4320
          But the Su-27 can handle the controlled flat corkscrew.

          Yes? And the reverse (an inverted corkscrew SU-27 can? 35-X and 57 do it easily.
          1. +3
            20 September 2019 18: 02
            Here, probably there was still the 35th, and not the 27th. Frankly, I do not know how to distinguish them.
            And I see the inverted corkscrew for the first time. belay
            And, damn it, the 35th has a variable thrust vector, like the Su-32 (there was a model, but it didn’t go to the series. They even didn’t go to the air show when the X-31 flew.)
            1. +3
              20 September 2019 18: 22
              Quote: Ural-4320
              Here, probably there was still the 35th, and not the 27th.

              Probably. Twice L-39, thirties flied three times, twice thirty-fifth, Once Su 57 and once 29 Migi. Twenty seventh not seen
              And, damn it, the 35th has a variable thrust vector, like the Su-32

              Confused with Su -37
              1. +1
                20 September 2019 18: 35
                I think so, Su-37. I have long seen the transmission.
                1. +3
                  20 September 2019 19: 13
                  I had a chance to see with my own eyes a training carousel in the sky of two pairs - as the birds flew, they turned very charmingly. I don’t know the types of cars.
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          3. +1
            21 September 2019 12: 00
            I think he meant the Su-35
    3. Maz
      +6
      20 September 2019 19: 40
      Awesome flight! Just shine!
    4. +6
      20 September 2019 20: 08
      Quote: Nycomed
      Technology ... Hmm ... And "the key to the apartment, where is the money?"

      Nikon, are you a masochist? You already annoy many here .. Who is he like men from Israel? Climbing to the first lines and getting on the cabbage soup and again rushing foolish Hehe He can ban him, got the first person with stupid comments ..? Me too, if that hi
    5. Maz
      +3
      20 September 2019 22: 54
      An Israeli drone was destroyed on the evening of September 19. Its destruction was carried out by the Russian Air Force.

      This was reported by the Russian site Avia.pro.

      “VKS fighters blocked Israeli planes and drones during a new attack on Syria,” writes Avia.pro. - The night before, while delivering another series of attacks on the suburbs of Damascus, Russian combat aircraft took off from the Russian military air base Khmeimim, located in Latakia province and heading to the south of the Arab Republic, actually thwarted Israeli attacks on the Syrian capital and its environs.
    6. -1
      22 September 2019 14: 03
      Are you sure that the current home-grown huckster will not sell technology? I won’t be surprised if this happens.
  2. -23
    20 September 2019 17: 23
    News based on YouTube comments.) Professional analytics, so to speak
    1. +15
      20 September 2019 17: 30
      Quote: 777-3-59-97
      News based on YouTube comments.) Professional analytics, so to speak

      And where else to get them from? From independent citizens? Experts - they write articles in magazines.
      Therefore, there is less sarcasm, more positive. Or is the Su-35 a bad plane?
      1. -7
        20 September 2019 17: 40
        Or is the Su-35 a bad plane?

        Very good one.
        I just like this way of presenting information.
        The title says - "In Turkey, f16 was called garbage."
        And it would be more objective to call it so - "One commentator on YouTube (possibly a Turk) wrote that f16 is rubbish."
        But what to do? Journalistic tricks, so to speak.
        1. -8
          20 September 2019 19: 29
          Admins on VO - beyond praise! hi good fellow
          1. +2
            21 September 2019 12: 03
            I have already asked 5 VO admins to stop writing on behalf of entire countries in such situations ... nope, 0 emotions. They want to be yellow - their right smile
            1. +2
              21 September 2019 12: 13
              You are lucky! Wait, I'm very good. quickly "waited" for 13 "minuses", but also with three "pluses", by the way. So, not all is lost! good lol We’ll lie! Let's get the topic! laughing
              1. 0
                21 September 2019 12: 24
                I put you the fourth laughing Although I usually do not pay attention to the pluses with minuses)
                1. 0
                  21 September 2019 12: 31
                  You real gentleman! +
                  1. 0
                    21 September 2019 12: 42
                    Everything to maintain peace of mind and global balance, monsieur hi

                    Do you know how in one series about a restaurant?
                    - Chief, what kind of nonsense? What for do they peel off these labels from bananas?
                    - And for the balance of the universe. After all, somewhere there, in Africa, the same rump like you glues these labels.
                    laughing
                    1. 0
                      21 September 2019 13: 25
                      It's funny, but, most importantly - the truth!
  3. +1
    20 September 2019 17: 28
    The fact that Diriliş başladı spoke about F16 like that, of course, shocked me. That's what I did not expect ...
    1. +4
      20 September 2019 19: 41
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The fact that Diriliş başladı spoke about F16 like that, of course, shocked me. That's what I did not expect ...

      Yeah, I'm shocked too, right now I’ll even pump up the stanchik laughing
  4. +21
    20 September 2019 17: 30
    I do not believe the Turks. No one knows what will happen after Erdogan’s change. Selling the best examples of our weapons and technology transfer is a mistake. Honesty minus, but this will not change my opinion about the Turks
    1. +12
      20 September 2019 17: 45
      And no one believes Turkey, the United States will not leave them alone, they will muddle up to the last ... and the F-16, frankly, is not a bad plane.
    2. +1
      20 September 2019 22: 59
      No one knows what will happen under Erdogan.
      With him, a Russian plane was actually shot down
    3. -6
      21 September 2019 00: 31
      You are too biased, our SUPREME COMMANDER is thinking differently, and all dear Russians are eager for free food in Turkish resorts, as well as middle-aged domestic ladies who are constantly unsatisfied in sexual terms, he certainly supports this. And, as you know, these people cannot be wrong. laughing
    4. +2
      21 September 2019 01: 24
      Turks, and not just Erdogan, feel the situation, trends and understand that the US is slowly but irreversibly losing ground, unfortunately most likely a temporary tandem of the Russian Federation and China. Hence their policy, because they became unpredictable, like a monkey with a grenade, demolishing completely stable and prosperous regimes everywhere, creating chaos around the EU and the Russian Federation and Israel, probably it is beneficial for them.
    5. +2
      21 September 2019 09: 12
      Quote: Magic Archer
      I do not believe the Turks.


      So who believes them? Weapons are supplied not from a great faith, but within the framework of a great geopolitical game for world influence. The more the Turks have Russian weapons, the less likely they will use them against us and our allies. And what technologies are transferred and how critical they are, we do not know, And, rather, "not" critical. Because there is no faith in the Turks, as you rightly noted. :)
  5. -5
    20 September 2019 17: 40
    [media = http: // https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = lxE6lYyoYTc] Draw your own conclusions
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  7. -5
    20 September 2019 17: 41
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxE6lYyoYTc

    Draw conclusions yourself
  8. -1
    20 September 2019 17: 43
    Draw your own conclusions
    1. +9
      20 September 2019 18: 30
      Quote: Misak Khananyan
      Draw your own conclusions

      End of video:

      Journalist: So you liked the F-16. How many times have you flown it?
      Kvochur: One.
      1. 0
        21 September 2019 21: 35
        Watch the video three times to get it, and then envy silently
    2. D16
      +6
      20 September 2019 22: 14
      That is, you flew on the F-16. You really liked him. And how many times have you flown it? One laughing
      Draw your own conclusions.
      1. -1
        21 September 2019 21: 34
        Watch the video three times to get it, and then envy silently
  9. +1
    20 September 2019 17: 56
    In Turkey, after the flight of the Su-35, the American F-16 was called "garbage"
    So it is, there’s nothing even to hide here, they said essentially.
    1. +3
      20 September 2019 18: 41
      You have to be a realist, not a dreamer. Where did the commentator call f-16 garbage? I never found. The author commenting on the commentator, for some reason added f-16 to the text))
      1. 0
        20 September 2019 18: 46
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        You have to be a realist, not a dreamer. Where did the commentator call f-16 garbage? I never found. The author commenting on the commentator, for some reason added f-16 to the text))

        These claims are not to me, but to those who wrote and said this. I just state the facts stated.
        1. -4
          20 September 2019 18: 54
          Well, it's cool anyway. Well so afraid. Even call garbage
          1. +4
            20 September 2019 19: 01
            Quote: Shahno
            Well, it's cool anyway. Well so afraid. Even call garbage

            Here, on the contrary, everyone, if they were afraid, would not call garbage.
        2. 0
          20 September 2019 19: 02
          I’m talking about this and say that I didn’t find the fact, but saw a fantasy-additive "f-16". If this is fantasy, then what you stated is also an interesting question)
  10. +2
    20 September 2019 18: 12
    Quote: lucul
    For God's sake, show respect for the Russian language. Read what a proper name is and in what cases it is used.

    It’s excusable for Russians to distort their language - rarely does anyone correctly pronounce such words as milk, of course, because -What, but for foreigners who know Russian, yes, it cuts the ear.

    What you write about is the norm of the Russian language, no foreigners seriously studying the Russian language can cut their ears because this is a normative pronunciation, not a "distort language". It would be better if you did not write, at least without a minimal acquaintance with the subject, about what you do not understand at all.

    To broaden your horizons:
    1. -7
      20 September 2019 18: 18
      Yes Yes. current reduction from the world does not need to be fenced off.
  11. +1
    20 September 2019 18: 23
    This is the commercial value of such air shows.
    Aerobatics that are never used in battle,
    and which are not performed by anyone other than pilot pilots
    groups make a lasting impression on the public and on politicians.
    And there are sales. Good afternoon! good
    1. +8
      20 September 2019 18: 38
      Sincerely, aerobatics show the possibility of cars
    2. 0
      20 September 2019 18: 39
      Well, the B-707 barrel is still impressive, and then everyone’s heart skipped a beat. At the exhibition fintanuli. But also never will such a maneuver be done.
    3. +2
      20 September 2019 18: 55
      But decisions are made by specialists, not by the public. Politicians (the President) can even turn a blind eye to the shortcomings (say they are, according to experts) if the deal is political and brings other benefits. Or obey the opinions of experts (+ or -) for final decisions. In any case, the public and their comments are irrelevant.
      1. -1
        20 September 2019 21: 07
        Yes, for God's sake ... Su-35 is an excellent fighter. Turkey will not lose if it starts
        buy it. F-16 works better on the ground than Su-, but in air battles
        they are equal. And as an interceptor, the Su-35 is better.
    4. +2
      20 September 2019 19: 45
      C'mon, have you completely forgotten about the missile defense? How will you flee a warrior from a rocket?
    5. -3
      20 September 2019 19: 51
      Dear "Voyaka"! The ace pilot and the aerobatic team pilot are slightly different things. There are no aces pilots in any of the aerobatic teams in the world. Yes, in my opinion, it never happened. And in general, among the pilots still flying now, the Ases are no longer there. hi
    6. +3
      20 September 2019 20: 02
      Before the Second World War everyone was taught aerobatics. At the beginning, experience was not enough. And aerobatics gives a complete sense of the plane. Then these aces taught others how to fight. And then, what figures will be in demand in a future war? Which of the pilots will answer? You are not a pilot, just like me
    7. +1
      21 September 2019 12: 03
      And Sergey Bogdan will not agree with you smile
  12. -1
    20 September 2019 18: 32
    I completely agree and thank you for protecting a foreigner laughing(Sori, ento to spelling)
  13. +1
    20 September 2019 18: 37
    As if the Turks at one "fine" moment did not want to try our weapons against us.
    1. -4
      20 September 2019 18: 57
      As long as your weapons are your words. And your faith laughing
    2. 0
      21 September 2019 00: 40
      If the Supreme Commander-in-Chief said that from now and forever the Turks are our sculpted homies, so it was am
  14. 0
    20 September 2019 18: 46
    In Turkey, after the flight of the Su-35, the American F-16 was called "garbage"
    in addition to excellent handling, advanced avionics is still needed, it is even more important now, but in this we traditionally lag behind
  15. +4
    20 September 2019 19: 01
    F-16 called "trash"

    Journalists are such journalists ...
    I wonder if the "garbage" could become the most massive fighter of the 4th generation?
    However, what is it about. laughing
  16. -5
    20 September 2019 19: 25
    Yavuz Ortakchi:
    "We would rather participate in the production of Su-57."
    And who is this? Defense Minister? Premier? Or maybe a local "oligarch"? Who is it?
    1. +1
      20 September 2019 19: 44
      Browser, no? laughing
      1. -1
        20 September 2019 20: 05
        Do not be surprised if this is so. laughing
        1. -1
          20 September 2019 20: 06
          Quote: Nycomed
          Do not be surprised if this is so. laughing

          What readers, such and reviewers laughing
          1. -1
            20 September 2019 20: 30
            I agree, no doubt!
  17. +9
    20 September 2019 19: 41
    Watching the flight of this aircraft, I dreamed that this aircraft could become our fighter, manufactured at our factory. Today we do not need the American devil, but we need a Russian bear.

    Heavily distorted translation winked Followed the link to the video itself. It says that "Looking at the flight of this aircraft, I thought hard, dreaming that this aircraft could be produced at our factories." And would not need not the devil of the usa. not a Russian bear . Here is a literal translation. Did you see the difference? Unlike the first translation .Exh for the sake of the article what are you ready for. It is necessary to deliver true info.
  18. +3
    20 September 2019 19: 50
    In Turkey, after the flight of the Su-35, the American F-16 was called "garbage"


    That is, call a spade a spade))

    The pilot and plane are certainly handsome! good
  19. +2
    20 September 2019 19: 55
    It would just be interesting to see how a full-fledged combat aircraft, with a normal combat load, will perform at least half of the aerobatics .. at real flight speeds, not air noise)) it is desirable that the pilot does not lose his health at the same time.
    1. -1
      20 September 2019 20: 57
      That's for sure! I saw our bombers take off: empty - like swallows flying up, and loaded ones - barely barely rising above the roofs of houses. And where in this position aerobatics do? Go away from missiles, as some write? Oh well!
  20. +2
    20 September 2019 20: 15
    At a couple of moments from the video, my heart froze.
    Pilotage: IN !!! :)
    Luxuriously.
  21. -9
    20 September 2019 20: 27
    Aircraft SU-57 is good, slightly better than SU-37. The F-35, for example, has a run of 50 meters, sits generally vertically .. Less noticeable on the radar than sous. Many technologies in it are still a secret. So the benefits are serious.
    1. +5
      21 September 2019 00: 47
      The F-35 plane is certainly cool, the truth flies like an iron, but this is nonsense, you should not even mention laughing
  22. +3
    20 September 2019 20: 28
    Quote: 777-3-59-97
    For God's sake, show respect for the Russian language. Read what a proper name is and in what cases it is used.

    C'mon, the Internet has long been written anyhow. Believe me, there is no place for a connoisseur of Russian literature. And in order to demand this - start to meet your own requirements.
  23. +3
    20 September 2019 20: 45
    Quickly, however, the Turks became our friends ... I still remember the distant time when Turkish tomatoes were declared enemies.
    1. +1
      20 September 2019 22: 49
      And with the Germans? After what happened? There and Israel does not shy away from relations with Germany, because they also have something to remember, right? Policy. And business.
    2. +2
      21 September 2019 00: 57
      This, as they say, was long ago and not true, now everything has changed. From now on, Turkish tomato is the best friend of Russian tomato. And we turned that page in our relations. It is well known that we and combat pilots and diplomats, like dirt, would have something to remember. But the SU-24 was generally old, it had a direct road to disposal, and the Turks also saved us money, thanks to them for that laughing
      1. +1
        21 September 2019 02: 33
        in big politics, it’s rarely possible to throw a straight show ... As I understand, our president is currently trying to secure our southern borders, imagine at this level what kind of bidding is going on, here are our planes as one of the bidding tools ... Turkey will tie economically to our country , then in the event of a conflict with the United States everything will be easier ... So here is far from tomato interest.
        1. +5
          21 September 2019 03: 00
          In the event of a real conflict with the United States, like this for real, throwing ballistic weapons at one another will not be easier for anyone, and someone, and the Turks will definitely stick under the shoulder blade, although this is unlikely to have at least some significance there, the whole world is in ruin. And if you paid attention to my nickname, you probably realize that I understand something in the mentality of Asian peoples. And, I’ll tell you as a native, only two things are understood and truly respected in Asia. 1 force. 2. willingness to use this force. Everything else - polite words, smiles, handshakes and promises - is complete bullshit, not even worthy of mention. There is only power and determination. But forgiveness and the desire to agree is an unacceptable and unforgivable weakness, which only encourages your opponent. In Asia, the Christian principle does not work - hit on the cheek - turn the other. In Asia, the principle applies - hit on the cheek tear Adam's apple. I’m telling you to broaden your horizons and take off your pink glasses.
          1. 0
            21 September 2019 05: 25
            Well, from the point of view of Asian psychology, you are probably right, periodically, or constantly someone needs to show strength. But after the downing of our plane, it was enough to limit the financial flow from tourism and trade (what is not a manifestation of will?), How the rhetoric of Turkey has really changed, there is also an attempt on Erdogan turned up successfully ... Now the Turkish flow is also being completed, from which Turkey is not bad gesheft will have. In the future, there will always be an opportunity to block the pipe (as one of the options for the development of the confrontation), which is why the president is spinning, laying future opportunities for the country's security. Even the Germans closer to the deadline for the construction of the North Stream begin to change their policies, because soon they themselves will distribute this gas in Europe ...
          2. 0
            21 September 2019 10: 47
            I agree 100 percent
        2. +1
          21 September 2019 10: 49
          What will happen? A few dozen aircraft? To tie the economy of another country, you must have your own stronger. Turkey today is economically no less than Russia and more modern.
      2. +1
        21 September 2019 10: 53
        Do you mind the pilot? How is dirt? You can also add that women still give birth. Only soon there will be no one to give birth. And you are the one.
        1. +1
          21 September 2019 14: 08
          Well, I have something to do with it. I just voiced the official position of the leadership of the Russian Federation, as I see it. The Turks shot down our plane, shot down. They killed the ambassador, they killed. The Russian Federation swallowed it and wiped it out - yes that's right, just like that - swallowed it and wiped it off. The SUPREME CHIEF COMMANDER came out, said something there about the fact that the Turks wouldn’t get rid of the tomatoes, that’s all happened, Turkish import of tomato did not suffer. Now we are selling the S-400 to the Turks. Soon, judging by this vidyahi, they will also sell Dryers to them. Although perhaps I don’t understand something and it’s just such a particularly sophisticated revenge on our part. As a retribution for the downed plane and the murder of the ambassador, it’s not our oldest weapon to sell to the culprit. Apparently, the SUPREME COMMANDER is professing Christian principles in foreign policy — they hit the other on the cheek, and before that also teach me how to beat more correctly and harder. What I personally do not understand and do not approve of this position. But who am I to give advice to the SUPREME CHIEF COMMANDER. As there at Vysotsky-GIRAFFE BIG, HIM VISIBLE. So I just express my opinion, perhaps with excessive sarcasm, which many do not understand. But in this situation, either laugh or cry. I have long forgotten how to cry.
  24. +1
    20 September 2019 21: 29
    Quote: Nycomed
    What's wrong with knowing your language well? And the statements "on the topic" should be the same, correctly voiced. And something, but the concept of "Procrustean bed" for the Russian language is absolutely not suitable. The Russian language is limitless. It cannot be "driven into frames". You just need to KNOW him, and for this you need to read a lot. Read both Russian classics and modern prose writers and poets. And a person who cannot speak his native language will treat the languages ​​of his neighbors in the same way, without respect. And nothing good will come of it. One must know and know one's own language, at least "satisfactorily". hi

    Well, you have to distort my answer. And if for a person Russian is not his native language, then, in your opinion, he already has no place on this site? They piled up a bunch of "smart" thoughts here, clearly not thinking that it is not at all necessary to KNOW a foreign language perfectly to be present on the VO site.
  25. +1
    20 September 2019 22: 01
    ONLY AN ATHLETE noted the beauty of the aircraft and aerobatics. The rest were not engaged in business. But I wanted to ask if everyone heard the singing of the car, or did it seem to me? Yes, apparently no one to ask.
    ... I watched the video, the pilot showed me the wonders of his skill, and through the noise of the outgoing jets I could hear a quiet, beautiful song. It seems to me, I decided. But when the plane flew away, the song fell silent. A dog barked in silence, people spoke ...
    So the plane sang.
    1. +1
      20 September 2019 22: 10
      ... I watched the video, the pilot showed me the wonders of his skill, and through the noise of the outgoing jets I could hear a quiet, beautiful song. It seems to me, I decided. But when the plane flew away, the song fell silent. A dog barked in silence, people spoke ...
      So the plane sang.

      You heard what you wanted to hear. Quite normal, that’s how our brains work.
      The brain generally thinks a lot, completes, etc.
      1. +1
        20 September 2019 23: 09
        Jack, thanks! )))
        You comforted me ... It all started by chance, two years ago. One of my rooms is almost empty, and I go to smoke in it. Three hundred meters away is a track with its incessant noise, which is composed of the rustling of tires. And one night I suddenly, along with this even noise, heard music inside the room, such that after that I stopped listening to symphonies on the culture channel. Something similar to what accompanies the EVE spaceship. Unearthly beauty - space. Then I realized that, reflected from the walls, standing waves are formed from the singing of car engines. But I read to my misfortune somewhere that such a perception could be caused by brain cancer. But you said that this is just a property of nature - thanks! I prefer to believe you love
        1. -1
          21 September 2019 00: 26
          But I read to my misfortune somewhere that such a perception could be caused by brain cancer. But you said that this is just a property of nature - thanks! I prefer to believe you love

          Yes, that's perfectly normal. Moreover, there are also sound hallucinations (like ordinary ones) when a person hears something that is not. For example, a voice in an empty room. The brain is "playing".)
          You just like music very much (most likely), so the brain adds noises into "music".
          Yes, in general, the human body is an interesting thing for false things. For example, I often feel how the phone vibrates in the left pocket of my pants, although in fact it does not vibrate.)
          So don’t worry, cancer has nothing to do with it.)
  26. +1
    21 September 2019 00: 05
    Glory to our engineers and designers! And the pilot is well done!
    1. -3
      21 September 2019 10: 42
      They have long been gone. We left. This is all addressed in the 70s.
  27. +2
    21 September 2019 01: 34
    Everyone !!!! Well, some spectator wrote trash, so what is the F-16 worse than this hundred ?! By the way, the Su-27 was the opponent of this aircraft in the USSR and standardly won in training battles.
    1. -4
      21 September 2019 10: 41
      By itself . Window dressing has always been a scoop's strength.
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      2. +1
        21 September 2019 12: 55
        In fact, the United States conducted training battles, and in the 90s, with the weak-minded Alconaut Su-27, the Russian Air Force flew to the United States and immediately after the flight, without even resting, they were offered to conduct a training battle - a sad result for the US Air Force.
  28. -1
    21 September 2019 02: 03
    to fly beautifully doesn’t mean to fight effectively .. I’ll give an example - at the dawn of my youth, my friend was engaged in karate .. so somehow Japanese or Korean came to them with a great black belt .. he showed his technique as they have this is called I don’t remember .. the blows of the demonstration and everyone admired everything clearly, correctly, quickly and beautifully .. but alas, he was piled like a puppy in sparing .. and far from the best local karate)))))))))))) )
    1. -4
      21 September 2019 10: 39
      And not only this. What about the filling? Where does the technology come from when there are no chips? This is all semi-analog junk
      1. 0
        21 September 2019 13: 04
        You are behind the times.
        1. 0
          21 September 2019 13: 07
          Rather you. First, make Skolkovo Silicon Valley and after 20 years you will get a good filling for airplanes. Today, all that is available to you is the chips purchased per kilogram on Ali Express))
          1. +1
            21 September 2019 13: 36
            Skolkovo is a business project for theft, but there are other serious R&D projects where I invest money. Hopefully someday the redhead will be disposed of.
  29. +1
    21 September 2019 02: 24
    Our flyers are handsome, and of course the technology ...
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  30. +2
    21 September 2019 04: 10
    Yes .. The Turks are there in shock of course from our plane and pilot. The pilot perfectly demonstrated the capabilities of the aircraft good
    1. -1
      21 September 2019 10: 37
      Turks are the same delbiloids like you. I hope not all))
      1. 0
        21 September 2019 13: 02
        Are you insulting!?, You don’t have enough arguments, you can’t say that demonstration flights are a show far from military operations or you can’t compose complicated phrases with participations in turns !!! Funny however, you are not just badly brought up, you are also stupid.
        1. -1
          21 September 2019 13: 12
          Well ... yes, change the contents of the form. But this will not make the plane better, as a stupid person will be smarter. I know very well what is happening in the military-industrial complex and I understand very well that the main thing in an airplane is modern filling. And with the complete absence of high-tech, these aircraft are suitable only for the Nesterov loop that he demonstrated at the beginning of the last century on a plywood shelf.
  31. -1
    21 September 2019 07: 23
    Comparison of the modern-day combat aircraft su35 and conditional combat f16 developed 50 years ago is not appropriate.

    It is clear that the Turks are aware that the apparatus from the era of the Vietnam War and the Beatles group was somehow not relevant in the 21st century and was exclusively imposed by politicians. Well, it’s flawed to put f16 monuments in the bazaars of Turkish villages
    1. 0
      21 September 2019 10: 31
      Not 60, but 70
      Since then, there have been several generations, just the name has not changed. This is not a scoop, any modification with a new name. What about planes, what about Lada.
      1. -1
        21 September 2019 15: 02
        The Tu-22 has been in service since 1962, and the F-16 since 1979 (it did not participate in the fighting in Vietnam) in the future numerous modernizations of both of these with the addition of lettering. Your message is that in the Russian Federation in the event of any type of modernization a new model appears and it boasts complete nonsense. SU-35 is a new aircraft and it is bought by serious countries that do not need the opinion of minuscule spitting poison.
        1. +2
          22 September 2019 15: 01
          Tu 22 and Tu22M are different planes.
          1. 0
            22 September 2019 15: 37
            Of course, they are different, like the F-16 in the "C" modification, only blocks from 25 to 52, but that is not the case, your remark is not in essence, I objected to the comment above, read and understand.
  32. 0
    21 September 2019 08: 53
    And what, did not even hit?
  33. -2
    21 September 2019 10: 14
    Yes, the plane is good, but in the skies of Syria, F 16 shot down our SU 24. And the SU 30 at that time was hammering at the partisans, instead of covering the bomber. The main thing is the result. In modern air combat, the main thing is the radar for detecting who will draw whom before 150 or 70 km in the air, or they will direct them from the ground. Well, the rockets will behave as they do on a collision course .., and all these "cobras" ... well, it’s nice, avoiding the radar, that navryatli (flyers know better). Well, for super-maneuverable combat, as shown by our flyers, a cannon is good, but it can only finish off partisans or shoot at the priest in pursuit (of course, scare off scouts and civilians). In short, all this is for taxpayers and Papuans IMHO ...
    1. 0
      21 September 2019 13: 09
      Su 24 attack aircraft, and the blow was inflicted despicable, especially since most likely the "cover" worked on the ground because it was ordered, because there was no enemy in the sky and was not expected.
    2. +1
      21 September 2019 14: 19
      As far as I remember, then the Su-24 was flying unaccompanied. Su-30 as cover fighters appeared only after this incident.
  34. -3
    21 September 2019 10: 28
    I can imagine what will begin now. But I'll tell you a secret Su-35 is an obsolete junk of the development of 60s-70s. There is nothing good there; it is intended for yesterday’s wars. F-35 shoots before it was noticed and therefore all these beautiful loops and cobras impress only suckers. Such is the majority of couch strategists.
  35. 0
    21 September 2019 12: 02
    Beautiful, but ineffective. Most potential opponents will not go into close combat, preferring to solve problems at medium and long distances, in fact for this purpose, both weapons and their carriers are constantly being improved.
  36. +1
    21 September 2019 13: 04
    Interestingly, but there is an aerobatics such as "Combat Turn on Helicopter", when the target on the ground is small and must be destroyed, but it did not work out from the first approach - after flying over the target, lift the nose of the aircraft to reduce speed, then the aircraft, having dropped speed, turns around around the VERTICAL axis, and then, gaining speed, attacks the target again.
    It seems to me that it would be no less spectacular than Cobra Pugachev, I would say that it would be fantastic.
  37. -1
    21 September 2019 13: 46
    How many "fragrant" dregs from the jolt have gathered, everyone is scolding our equipment, there is a whole front of slanderers and detractors of the Russian Federation in the discussion here, well, there must have been a smell of grandmas, well, there are also convinced liberoids and other entities.
  38. amr
    +1
    21 September 2019 13: 47
    Quote: ANIMAL
    The pilot is BEAUTIFUL! Just a sight for sake, not aerobatics! WENT - REWARDS! If I knew the name - of the Real Russian Man ... That's who you need to put in an Example and make Films !!! good

    why can't there be a Tatar pilot? well, or Ukrainian? and what kind of Moldovan?
    1. 0
      21 September 2019 14: 25
      Well, we are all called Russians and nationalities are not divided. I myself am a mixture of "bulldog and rhinoceros" by nationality and that we are in total resentment or do we have discrimination on a national basis in the country ?!
  39. +4
    21 September 2019 17: 34
    This is a distorted translation: "Watching the flight of this plane, I dreamed that this plane could become our fighter produced at our plant. Today we do not need the American devil, but the Russian bear."
    And here is the correct translation:
    "Watching the flight of this plane, I indulged in dreams, imagined if this plane was our military plane, produced at our factory. We would not depend on either American Satan or the RUSSIAN BEAR."
  40. ZVS
    +1
    22 September 2019 12: 03
    I doubt that the F-16 is trash. This aircraft took part in all military conflicts for the past 30 years, and the Mig-35 did not take part in hostilities. The cost of an hour of F-16 flight is much lower than that of the Mig-35. In combat conditions there will be no circus tricks, but there will be the ability to be able to complete the task and return to base. In all conflicts, the last 30 years, the main burden fell on single-engine aircraft. But the Russian Defense Ministry does not want to understand this.
    And show-offs should be left to amateurs from journalism.
    1. 0
      22 September 2019 15: 04
      Have you read the material? There is generally no talk about MiG.
      1. ZVS
        0
        23 September 2019 11: 11
        Have you read it yourself? ))))))))
        "... Recall that the Su-35 showed a number of its capabilities in terms of maneuvering and performing aerobatics in the framework of the Teknofest 2019 festival of military and dual-use technologies ..."
        1. 0
          23 September 2019 11: 13
          Read your comment again. You write there not about the Su-35, but about the MiG-35.
          1. ZVS
            +1
            23 September 2019 11: 33
            Wrong, it happens. Meant the Su-35.
  41. +2
    22 September 2019 13: 44
    Due to the fact that the F-16 was called garbage, it did not become one, otherwise it would have been a long time ago that all the aircraft of Israel, Turkey and hundreds of other countries were dumped in the trash.
    The Su-35 is certainly a good plane and the pilot in Turkey worked beautifully for the public, but let's not take the emotional expressions of hot Turkish spectators so literally and seriously.
    Of course I want ours to be better than anyone who is against it.
    But bad airplanes are not in service in any army in the world.
  42. 0
    22 September 2019 15: 49
    Well, such comments are nice, kanesh, but we must not forget that this is just a selection of "filtered" positive reviews. As a rule, in any topic there is always a full set of opinions - from minuses to pluses. It would be even more interesting for me to find out negative reviews: they can have healthy moments.
  43. -2
    23 September 2019 10: 37
    Another dumb cotton bullshit for. Congratulations!
  44. 0
    23 September 2019 12: 11
    On f35 engines of a new generation, we do not yet. Regarding target capture systems, there is approximately parity, 35 has a fundamentally new logistics of technical maintenance, permanent telemetry. Nice plane. A reversal in place at a range of aiming and flight of the rocket 110 km, does not play a special role. The rocket is on its way. No need to deceive yourself, no one will enter close combat.