China announced the perfection of the design of the J-20 and the lack of lag behind the US Air Force

Chinese TV released material on modern Chinese weapons. A substantial part was devoted to the latest Chinese J-20 fighters, on which the PLA air forces make a special bet. So, it is reported that in the military parade, which will be held on the day of the 70 anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China, all J-20 that are put into service will fly as part of a military parade in the skies of Beijing.

From the report:

China today relies on its own modern high-tech equipment in all sectors, including the military.

The material is picked up by the military section of the Sina portal, which states that the J-20 fighter demonstrates the absence of any technological backlog of the Chinese Air Force from the US Air Force.

From the material:

We achieved this thanks to the implemented stealth technologies and a large number of elements of the electronic equipment system.

In the comments to the published material, as they say, Chinese users “came off”. In particular, “J-20 design excellence” was noted and it was added that the J-20 is made of durable, corrosion-resistant materials “in contrast to the rotting American F-22”. To enhance the effect, one of the Chinese users called the American F-22 "flying pig." Apparently, J-20, according to the Chinese "commentators", unlike the F-22, is a real swan or eagle ...

The material of the Chinese media noted that the parade, which will be held on October 1, will show the latest missiles, anti-aircraft missile systems, helicopters, armored vehicles and much more.

Comments

[Svarog]

Apparently, the J-20, according to the Chinese "commentators", unlike the F-22, is a real swan or eagle ...

As in my opinion, that the American penguin, that the Chinese car in design are much inferior to the Su 57. The design of our aircraft is excellent, and indeed all of our aircraft are very beautiful ..

[yehat]

it would be strange if there were problems with the development of literally the entire filling, the external design would be nagged. Then it’s better not to even try to wave, but to build 4+, 4 ++, 4 +++, 3 ++++++, etc.

[iouris]

How is the word "design" translated?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: iouris

"design"?

DESIGN, a, m. Artistic design of objects produced by industry; art design.

[From English design - design, construct]

[iouris]

Joke. In the personnel department of a military enterprise. "Who are you?" "Designer". "Bye".

[Uncle lee]

-Do you have whatman paper?
-?
-I'm for a culman ..
-?
-I am a designer !
-I see that it’s not Ivanov!

[Voyager]

Here you are laughing, and the term design has long been used not only as an artistic component, but also as an engineering design.

[Lexus]

The number of "BUSINESS" always does not correspond to the number of "statements" (especially inherent in the Chinese). Only the Chinese do not want "peace, good ... good mood, to stay there" in the absence of money. They "invite" such people to the stadium.

[Mestny]

Indeed, how is it possible - to wish someone good or peace? And even more so in a good mood.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Svarog

China announced the perfection of the design of the J-20 and the lack of lag behind the US Air Force

the eyes are not pleasing, neither the fu-35 nor the J-20 ... and our 57 in some angles .. all the same, the SU 30-35- look ... more aesthetic and more complete in terms of the exterior design of the airframe (private opinion)

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Probably the type of aircraft Su-30, etc. one way or another accompanied you over a very long period of life.
The appearance of the Su-57 is significantly different. He is unusual, so it causes you to unconsciously reject.
Neophobia, i.e. "fear of the new". This happens in older people.

[Grandfather]

perhaps there is a rational thought in your comment that explains everything ... but I served when we had SU-7b in our regiment, then SU-24 (which after “7b” seemed perfect), I’m probably just getting old.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Just do not turn into an old grump. This inevitably leads to decrepitude and weakness.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Just do not turn into an old grump. This inevitably leads to decrepitude and weakness.

you are so kind ... and the same to you.

[Lelik76]

When at our aircraft plant they began to make the Su-27 (my grandfather was still working there), everyone was spitting like how ugly he was, some kind of "hunchbacked" compared to the MiG-23, which had long been made in series. I have already worked well with the Su-27, 30SM and other modifications, and this glider seems very beautiful to me. When the eye gets used to the Su-57, it will not seem like a freak in some angles.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Lelik76

When at our aircraft plant they began to make the Su-27 (my grandfather was still working there), everyone was spitting like how ugly he was, some kind of "hunchbacked" compared to the MiG-23, which had long been made in series. I have already worked well with the Su-27, 30SM and other modifications, and this glider seems very beautiful to me. When the eye gets used to the Su-57, it will not seem like a freak in some angles.

probably it is ... I remember when after a "penny" I saw "eight" VAZ ... "chisel" immediately did not like it. and when I traveled to a neighbor's .... oh, her ... "kopeck"! you're right, BUT, I said that it was my personal ... right now I don’t know what. habit is visible. Kozhedub probably would have gone crazy seeing current planes, to say nothing.

[voyaka uh]

You are absolutely right. Aesthetics change over time.
When they release a lot of C-57, no one will understand why
admired the "humpback" Su-27.
Well, and patriotism. Enemy aircraft are always greasy, crooked, ugly.
Ours are always the Miss Universe finalists

[Voyager]

Well, the 27th glider is loved all over the world. Even our overseas friends for the most part recognize him as very beautiful.

[voyaka uh]

F-35 - flying penguin (Russian bloggers)
F-22 - a flying pig (Chinese bloggers).
The Chinese will win this competition, as they have a hat
several times more

[Svarog]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Chinese will win this competition, as they have a hat
several times more

The Chinese will soon become the winners in all competitions ... and the "hats" are only one of the reasons, albeit a weighty one.

[missuris]

what is interesting, why f-22 flying pig? it is in proportions no thicker than other heavy fighters, with the f-35 it is clear that it has a thicker nose and body in proportions compared to the same f-16 and others.

yes, caps x8 is strong

[100502]

Wet dreams of the Chinese.

[Uncle lee]

a real swan or an eagle ...

Each sandpiper praises its swamp ....

[Rwmos]

- Who are you?
- Designer!
- By the face I see that it’s not Ivanov. What profession?

So it is here. Well design - hurt yourself. Although it was still necessary to paint dragons and silk ... Dvigla, however, no, and there is no one to develop an AFAR, but there is a DESIGN!

[gabonskijfront]

Only Russians know a lot about the design of weapons. From the point of view of aesthetic perception, we are impeccable, the parade on Red Square is a real "haute couture".

[Grandfather]

Quote: gabonskijfront

Only Russians know a lot about the design of weapons. From the point of view of aesthetic perception, we are impeccable, the parade on Red Square is a real "haute couture".

yes it's nice that everything is better with us so far. but the Chinese are pushing forward with a drill (I won't even compare cars, we are already in OPE with our (not our) auto industry.) WE! Chinese people bought from us gas-51, gas 69, and IZH-49 !!! they had NOTHING. and now, they have analogs of "Bentleys" and "Rolls Royces" with "geldings". we have a "vesta" they have an "atlas" ... just compare, and you don't have to drive that the "Chinese" will rot in three years, it was, but it has already passed. so there is no need to throw in hats, in electronics, they are ahead, in what they are lagging behind, they know, and they work like horses on this, but we have an economy ... from the cycle: "and we have gas in our apartment! ? "(C) .. and they also have ours, and cheaper than for us ... and soon there will be even more, and at dumping prices, (look for yourself and study the topic), in my apartment, if you throw it away everything is Chinese, there will be a manual meat grinder, from the father as a stored memory, a refrigerator and microwave ovens Korean, and a gas stove Belarus - "hefest" (hanging cabinets and other chipboard do not count) and I myself will be without panties, BUT in socks ... -Belarusian. the rest, clothes, shoes, electronics, even a pneumatic "Makar" -china. and ... more wallpaper in one room-Belarus, in another Ukraine (first bought, liked it, saw the manufacturer of the house when I already glued it, do not rent it .. .) - how ... the economy speaks here ... well, well ... and yes ... extreme parades ... not the same ... a pitiful semblance of the past.

[Mestny]

Everything is sad?
We did not expect anything else from you.

[rocket757]

Tired of already ... sandpiper / frog and THEIR swamp!
It is clear that they are now in the forefront, almost, but in order to be better than everyone else, it still needs to be proved!

[novel66]

no need to prove !! for evidence for the whole world can be unpleasant

[rocket757]

Quote: novel xnumx

no need to prove !! for evidence for the whole world can be unpleasant

That’s right, it will do.

[Nycomed]

"will increase
from the son
cvin,
if the son -
pig ... "
V.V. Mayakovsky

[novel66]

and back
" will increase
from pork
son
if pig -
son .. "

[Runoway]

Where was this reconnaissance when the Turks not only planned an attack on the Su-24, but also deployed militants to finish off pilots and paparasies. Lacked only the stands with the audience

[paul3390]

It is not very clear what kind of Stelts is involved in the presence of PGO ...

[novel66]

it is transparent from pressed toilet paper

[Rwmos]

To enhance the effect, one of the Chinese users called the American F-22 "flying pig."

He is not alone. US Air Force Honored Pilot:

Why did they make it such a pig?

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/how-to-win-in-a-dogfight-stories-from-a-pilot-who-flew-1682723379
He generally stated that F-35 landfill, better F-15 / 16 upgraded, if not F-22

[Lipchanin]

In the comments to the published material, as they say, Chinese users “came off”. In particular, “J-20 design excellence” was noted and it was added that the J-20 is made of durable, corrosion-resistant materials “in contrast to the rotting American F-22”. To enhance the effect, one of the Chinese users called the American F-22 "flying pig." Apparently, J-20, according to the Chinese "commentators", unlike the F-22, is a real swan or eagle ...

Torn off to the fullest

[novel66]

saliva would not be choked ... it is necessary to stir up the aviation biathlon - and see who whom

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

saliva would not be choked ... it is necessary to stir up the aviation biathlon - and see who whom

Why stir him up. He already is. In war games please

[novel66]

not .. not like with tanks -

[Lipchanin]

So they themselves do not burn with desire

[Journalist]

Well, I don’t know ... In my opinion, it’s some kind of cross between a penguin and a crocodile - a hefty carcass, don’t understand why this is their J-20. "Warthog" and he looks more aesthetically pleasing. Well, let the experts judge the performance characteristics. As far as I remember, no one has seen anything outstanding in this pepelats, except for the Chinese themselves.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Journalist

"Warthog" and he looks more aesthetically pleasing.

"boar" looks like a fighter.

[novel66]

in my opinion this is the most aesthetic ... sorry, unpatriotic ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: novel xnumx

in my opinion this is the most aesthetic ... sorry, unpatriotic ...

futuristic, rather ... but "blackbird" is already dead ... amen.

[novel66]

and who killed him - an airplane looking like an open suitcase

[rocket757]

Quote: novel xnumx

and who killed him - an airplane looking like an open suitcase

It’s just that he became the same as everything, shot down by SAM - air defense of many countries .... simply the fastest scout.

[Grandfather]

Quote: novel xnumx

and who killed him - an airplane looking like an open suitcase

Our MiGs ... 25 ... 31 ... just wrote off the "thrush", and that's it. this is how it happens, you think that you are "something", but it turns out that you are nothing.

[Sniper]

a plane .. like any weapon, it must be deadly. and only then beautiful. and this can only show real air combat., whose plane is cooler.

[novel66]

there is an opinion .. As Tupolev said: "Only beautiful planes can fly well."

[Grandfather]

Quote: novel xnumx

there is an opinion .. As Tupolev said: "Only beautiful planes can fly well."

if Tupolev saw modern planes ... in Kashchenko, he would have come on foot.

[novel66]

Tupolev was a man of wide views
"The designers of the KSShch told about this an entertaining story about a visit to the design bureau by the famous aircraft designer Tupolev. Contemporaries said that Tupolev had such a gift as foresight and by the appearance of the aircraft he could determine the approximate flight characteristics and say whether it would fly or not. Andrey Nikolayevich walked silently for a long time. around the rocket, and then said: "This work has little resemblance to a rocket. This is aerodynamic." The interested persons bowed their heads. Everyone was waiting for the master to say something else. And he said: "Yes! But it will fly!" "

[iouris]

It is known that beauty is a terrible force. If about weapons, then only those weapons whose combat effectiveness has been confirmed archiodivocally are beautiful. Such weapons are terribly beautiful (untranslatable puns).

[lis-ik]

To enhance the effect, one of the Chinese users called the American F-22 "flying pig." Apparently, the J-20, according to the Chinese "commentators", unlike the F-22, is a real swan or eagle ...

And how many we have. What is not an article on VO is a stream of wit.

[Grandfather]

Quote: lis-ik

And how many we have. What is not an article on VO is a stream of wit.

and most importantly, professional minusers ", they are like children, the right word., everywhere comments pass minus inserting, as it seems to them, causing" unacceptable damage "to the opponent, the funny thing is that they" flicker "and they can be seen. but they are like vindictive youngsters shake and shake on the minus! funny! yes let ... whatever the child is amusement, if only it is not hanged.

[16112014nk]

We still have to recognize the Chinese designers. For example, their competitor "Bugatti сhiron" -

Honggi S9 - Red Banner. The name is traditional for the Chinese.

[gfs84]

We still have to recognize the Chinese designers. For example, their competitor "Bugatti сhiron"

A must-have, especially when you consider that the former Rolls-Royce chief designer Giles Taylor is responsible for the design of Honggi S9:
this is what this worthy "Uigur" looks like

[Romanenko]

Everyone likes their planes and of course I want them to be the most beautiful, the most advanced and the fastest. But obscene names.
It is very unfortunate that this has recently become the norm.
Including ours.

[Mestny]

Quote: Sniper

a plane .. like any weapon, it must be deadly. and only then beautiful. and this can only show real air combat., whose plane is cooler.

"A beautiful airplane flies beautifully" is a natural law of harmony, expressed in one phrase.