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Putin said in Ankara that Syria should not be divided into zones of influence

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The president of this country, the leaders of Russia and Iran met in Turkey, who held a meeting in the so-called Astana (at the place of the first such kind of discussion) format on the issue of resolving the situation in Syria.


Putin said in Ankara that Syria should not be divided into zones of influence


According to Vladimir Putin, it is necessary to focus on helping the country overcome the consequences of the war, build the functioning of political institutions and prevent the separation of the ATS into zones of influence.

According to the Russian president, the situation in northeast Syria is causing extreme concern today. There, we recall, the United States actually created a zone of occupation and in every possible way impede the transition of these territories to the control of the Syrian government.

Vladimir Putin in Ankara noted that the joint activities of the Russian Federation, Turkey and Iran greatly contributed to the fact that the level of violence in Syria significantly decreased, so that people began to return to their cities and receive humanitarian aid.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, in turn, called on Western countries to abandon provocations in Syria and begin full-scale work to establish peace in that country.

As a result, the presidents of Russia, Turkey and Iran supported the idea that Syria should be perceived solely as an indivisible independent state, in which it is time to move on to political processes, including the possibility of convening a constitutional assembly that would reflect the interests of all segments of the population of the ATS.

In the United States, the meeting of the three presidents with the discussion of the Syrian issue was (traditionally) skeptical, saying that they accept the Geneva format exclusively. The whole problem is that the Geneva format for all the years of its existence has shown complete incapacity for resolving the conflict in the SAR. Perhaps this was Washington’s task? ..
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  1. Kontrik
    Kontrik 16 September 2019 20: 34
    +2
    They are going to share Syria .. There Russia will decide who to share and who to punish ..! This state is under our control!
    And Iran is also in the sphere of our interests, comrades Jews ..
    1. cniza
      cniza 16 September 2019 20: 40
      +6
      Quote: Kontrik
      They are going to share Syria .. There Russia will decide who to share and who to punish ..! ..


      It is difficult, but we have no other way.
      1. Kontrik
        Kontrik 16 September 2019 20: 51
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        Quote: Kontrik
        They are going to share Syria .. There Russia will decide who to share and who to punish ..! ..


        It is difficult, but we have no other way.

        It’s very difficult Victor .. In fact, the center poked into the aspen nest and there is no turning back .. If we leave. then EVERYTHING will choke us Russia both internally and externally. .
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 16 September 2019 21: 35
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        Quote: Kontrik
        They are going to share Syria .. There Russia will decide who to share and who to punish ..! ..


        It is difficult, but we have no other way.

        But we have Putin, the solver, and Western Europe is increasingly thinking. The United States and England are becoming increasingly difficult to steer.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 September 2019 21: 17
      +3
      Quote: Kontrik

      And Iran is also in the sphere of our interests, comrades Jews ..

      Iran? I think that the Iranians will be very surprised at this. I have a lot of complaints about the modern military clerical leadership of Iran, but I have great respect for the Iranians, who can be proud of 3 for thousands of uninterrupted statehoods.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 16 September 2019 21: 32
        +2
        Putin at a press conference today also suggested that Saudi Arabia buy a S-400 or S-300 to choose from smile
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 17 September 2019 00: 15
          +3
          Quote: Thrall
          offered Saudi Arabia to buy S-400 or S-300 to choose from

          You had to see HOW he talked about it. yes Once again, the Saudis in the presence of their worst enemies wiped their feet, and they poked the Koran into the heap. Nice, very, very. laughing
      2. protoss
        protoss 16 September 2019 21: 52
        +2
        Who has 3 thousands of years of continuous statehood? But what about the Macedonians, Arabs and other Seljuks with the Mongols, who replaced this statehood with their own?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 September 2019 22: 57
          +3
          Quote: protoss
          Who has 3 thousands of years of continuous statehood? But what about the Macedonians, Arabs and other Seljuks with the Mongols, who replaced this statehood with their own?

          But no way. All these conquerors constituted at the beginning of the conquest the thinnest layer of the elite, and then they were irranized as soon as possible. Thus only the nobility changed in the palaces. And they always considered themselves the heirs of Great Persia. How much time has passed from the Mongol conquest to the creation of the Hulagid state?
          1. protoss
            protoss 18 September 2019 13: 10
            0
            they could consider themselves heirs of the Achaemenids, but the Achaemenids were above, and their descendants under. with the fall of the Samanids (and then the Tajiks, not the Persians), Iranians lived for 9 centuries !!! under the Seljuks, Khorezmshahs, Mongols, Timurids, Safavids and Kajars, etc. .. and this was not Persian statehood. mainly the Turkic elite succeeded each other, but remained completely bilingual, which is justified, given that most of the subjects are Persians and other Iranian speakers, without losing their native language and culture (which is typical, the Mongols in Turkic were Iranian).
            and the Iranians were just part of the territory that the conquerors shared among themselves, the same silent resource as minerals or forest and water now.
      3. Geo
        Geo 16 September 2019 22: 32
        +4
        Jews are similarly surprised when they hear that their leadership is pursuing US interests in Syria, which, incidentally, are contrary to the interests of the Jews. The thesis is simple: the weaker Assad, the more in Syria Iran’s bases threatening Israel. Consequently, to support Assad is in the interests of the Jews, and they stick sticks in his wheels for the sake of whose interests?
  2. Rwmos
    Rwmos 16 September 2019 20: 35
    -1
    Here it is only possible to cover the sky with the USA. To obtain confirmation from the UN, official, that the mattress does not have a mandate for the occupation of Syria - and it did not exist, and to close the sky - they say, I don’t know who was flying there. But nobody will do it yet.
    So it remains to put pressure through the UN, simply showing that the US staged genocide in this zone and train terrorists
    1. cniza
      cniza 16 September 2019 20: 38
      +8
      Yes, the United States spits on the UN, here we must look for other levers.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 16 September 2019 21: 52
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        Yes, the United States spits on the UN

        They rule there.
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 16 September 2019 20: 44
      +1
      Quote: RWMos
      it remains to push through the UN

      1. lucul
        lucul 16 September 2019 20: 52
        +2
        kvn

        I really like this segment in KVN)))
    3. lucul
      lucul 16 September 2019 20: 45
      0
      Here it is only possible to cover the sky with the USA. To obtain confirmation from the UN, official, that the mattress does not have a mandate for the occupation of Syria - and it did not exist, and to close the sky - they say, I don’t know who was flying there. But nobody will do it yet.

      Yes, everyone does not care about UN bans.
      The organization has so discredited itself that no one pays attention to it.
      Here only amer aircraft will have to be shot down - they will not understand another language. If they stop flying, it means they don’t want war, if they continue to fly, it means it is a 100% provocation.
      Stop retreating already - as practice has shown, the consequences of the retreat of the 90s are completely comparable to the full
      war, even Putin said this. Only in the war and we can cause damage to the enemy, and in the 90s we alone suffered damage. You can’t think of a stupider policy.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 16 September 2019 21: 14
        -1
        Quote: lucul
        Yes, everyone does not care about UN bans.

        Yes. Only on bans Russian spit on the sidelines
  3. cniza
    cniza 16 September 2019 20: 38
    +3
    According to the Russian president, the situation in northeast Syria is causing extreme concern today. There, we recall, the United States actually created a zone of occupation and in every possible way impede the transition of these territories to the control of the Syrian government.


    This is the main task, to drive out the United States, but it will be very simple.
  4. Donetsk2019
    Donetsk2019 16 September 2019 20: 57
    +2
    Wow ... the summit in Turkey.
  5. kit88
    kit88 16 September 2019 21: 25
    +7
    Here the presidents of the three countries met. Discuss Syria. Trump and Putin also meet and discuss Syria.
    I have a question. Where is Bashar Hafez al-Assad? Why is he not meeting with anyone and discussing nothing? Is he the president at all or where?
    1. protoss
      protoss 16 September 2019 21: 55
      -6
      he allowed civil war, the collapse of the country, the death and flight of a third of the population. so-so president.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 16 September 2019 22: 01
        +2
        Quote: protoss
        he allowed civil war, the collapse of the country, the death and flight of a third of the population. so-so president.

        It's good that he survived when a gang of international thugs with his henchmen fell on him. For this, my respect for him.
        1. protoss
          protoss 16 September 2019 22: 08
          -6
          maybe it’s good for someone, but not for someone. Bashar is good, his family is not bad, 6 million refugees may also be fine, but I'm not sure.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 16 September 2019 22: 11
            +2
            Quote: protoss
            maybe it’s good for someone, but not for someone. Bashar is good, his family is not bad

            If you gang of thugs to the wall locks up, you will be very well? Judging by your comment, Assad and his family are high. Another in his place would have long faded over a hill, and he is fighting for the liberation of the country from the barmalei.
            1. protoss
              protoss 16 September 2019 22: 15
              -7
              how did it happen that most of the population turned out to be scumbags?
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 16 September 2019 22: 17
                +4
                Quote: protoss
                how did it happen that most of the population turned out to be scumbags?

                Big is how much? And who financed most of this? Have you ever wondered why it would suddenly flow to them loot?
                1. protoss
                  protoss 17 September 2019 13: 18
                  0
                  Well, specifically from the so-called 6 million people fell over the president of the Assad, and now lives in 7-8 million uncontrolled territories, and the Assad does not want to go back to the president. in total, this is more than half of the pre-war population of Syria. they are hosted by refugee countries - Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, the EU. and those remaining in Syria at least live on their own + humanitarian aid.
              2. Umalta
                Umalta 17 September 2019 01: 05
                +4
                As a rule, a smaller but aggressive minority financed from behind a hill (clearly by whom) defines everything. There are a lot of examples around the world where the pig’s nose was stuffed with mattresses and their satellites.
                1. protoss
                  protoss 17 September 2019 13: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: Umalta
                  (clearly by whom)

                  everything is clear to you.
                  Why is there such clarity from the TV?
                  all over the world where stuffed a pig’s nose mattresses

                  Well, and where we put our human noses, there is happiness and joy everywhere.
                  1. Umalta
                    Umalta 17 September 2019 17: 43
                    0
                    Never the Russian empire, nor the USSR, nor in the recent history of the Russian Federation, were engaged in the destruction of countries and genocide. If you are an avid follower of Natsik Bandera or an independent man, I’m not going to polemicize with you, this is a conversation below the baseboard.
                    1. protoss
                      protoss 17 September 2019 18: 31
                      0
                      do you see Ukraine everywhere? heal or distract from the zombie.
                      Well, as for what Russia did or did not do - as they say: never say "never."
                      1. Umalta
                        Umalta 17 September 2019 19: 23
                        0
                        As for the psyche and treatment, dear, you are not at the right place and nothing seems to me, I am far from suggesting it, and in this area I have both education and extensive practical experience.
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 17 September 2019 16: 02
        0
        he allowed civil war, the collapse of the country, the death and flight of a third of the population. so-so president.

        Is this about Lenin?
    2. Nychego
      Nychego 16 September 2019 21: 59
      -4
      Quote: kit88
      Where is Bashar Hafez al-Assad? Why is he not meeting with anyone and discussing nothing? Is he the president at all or where?

      Well, he’s kind of a president, though mostly sitting on Iranian and Russian bayonets.
      Moreover, it’s easy for him to get off these bayonets - not only to his neighbors, but to a heap of all Alawites, “grateful subjects” will arrange such dances with a “spark” that the UN will have to fork out at least a commission to investigate the act of genocide.
  6. Nychego
    Nychego 16 September 2019 21: 53
    0
    Well, if you leave Comrade Recep without a tiny piece of Syria, you can start waiting for another "knife in the back." Recep needs an almost symbolic piece of Syrian land in order to continue blowing a song about the revival of the Ottoman Empire into the ears of the Turks.
    1. protoss
      protoss 16 September 2019 22: 10
      -1
      Yes, he does not need a piece of Syria, he needs it all, his plans have not changed.
      1. Nychego
        Nychego 16 September 2019 22: 15
        0
        Quote: protoss
        he needs her all

        Recep is not a stupid person and understands that so far no one will give him all of Syria, and until the time when it can be picked up for him personally, it’s unlikely that he will live in power.
        I repeat: now a symbolic scrap is enough for him, and he obviously considers this scrap "honestly earned" in exchange for "friendship" with Russia and South Stream.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 16 September 2019 22: 26
          -7
          What "shred"? There, Syria is actually divided into national enclaves. There will never be any such "united" Syria. The lot of Syria is fragmentation and the creation of several "independent" states based on national and religious grounds. And the sooner Russia understands this, the sooner the war will end and peace will come on the wreckage of what used to be Syria.
          http://realtribune.ru/news/news/2709?utm_source=politobzor.net
          1. Nychego
            Nychego 16 September 2019 22: 45
            -1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            The lot of Syria is fragmentation and the creation of several "independent" states based on national and religious grounds.

            Perhaps, but not in the short term. So far, there are one and a half "enclaves" (in fact, one quasi-state of the Kurds and one controlled piece of territory taken from the Turks) with a not sickly prospect of being reduced to one.
        2. protoss
          protoss 17 September 2019 11: 25
          0
          Syria is needed by Regge entirely through the new constitution and elections, and that is precisely what he is leading to. he managed to get Saudi Arabia out of Syria with the hands of Iran and Russia. now he is the only defender of the Syrian Sunnis, and demographically this is a controlling stake.
          according to the Kurds after the Euphrates, sooner or later he will decide with apricots. It remains to wait for Russia to push Iran out of Syria, or vice versa. and then everything can be decided tetetet.
          1. Nychego
            Nychego 17 September 2019 11: 36
            0
            Quote: protoss
            Syria needs Regge entirely

            I will answer with a quote from an anecdote: "He eats something, but who will give him?"
            Of course, if the Amers "crash" Iran and Russia has its own "temporary", but inevitable difficulties and the Syrian pie (beyond all expectations) will be without a patron for a long time, Turkey can play games with a "voluntary entry", but instead constitutional reforms and elections, the variant of Bolshoi Myasilov is much more probable, because the "civil" war in Syria, which almost ended in victory for Iran and Russia, did not resolve a single significant contradiction, and the "peaceful construction" has not really begun yet, and both possible investors (well, whoever danced a girl, that would have fed her at least a little) is not in the economic position to blame for real and long-term systemic projects in the Syrian economy.
            1. protoss
              protoss 17 September 2019 12: 52
              -1
              the presence of Iran in Syria is not necessary for anyone other than Iran, so everyone will gradually push it out from there.
              our presence in Syria is absolutely unprofitable, and to make it profitable even in the event of our complete victory is impossible due to the fact that the Syrian economy is absolutely uninteresting for us - we have nothing to sell to them, even if they had money, and they don’t, in Syria there is nothing to take - there are no resources in interesting quantities there either.
              the Kremlin understands this very well. accordingly, in order to at least "break through" we will have to sell our exit at a higher price, while not losing in the image. the optimal way out is to lead everything to a "peaceful settlement", elections and the retirement of the former Assad.
              Turkey has a different economy, for them, Syria is quite a market, and besides, it will not sail away from the borders of Turkey, so you can work for the long term - for decades.
              and there is no one around except Turkey, who would be financially and infrastructurally ready for the restoration of Syria.
              therefore, Turkey is the only real buyer of our exit from Syria. and Turkey has something to pay for - already now they are reducing the volumes of gas they buy from us, replacing it with Azerbaijani gas and spgesh, for which the terminals have been built and expanded, and here we also have a "Turkish flow" that needs to be justified. so a return to previous volumes, or even an increase in purchases, could be a "price to pay" for Syria.
              1. Nychego
                Nychego 17 September 2019 14: 39
                0
                Before even hypothetically starting to "sell Syria" Iran must be withdrawn from it, and this is possible in the near term only in two cases or their composition: 1. Iran does start a full-fledged invasion of Israel and naturally snatches Lyuli; 2.A-measures are decided on direct armed aggression against Iran and Iran is forced to withdraw its forces from Syria to the "metropolis". Russia in both cases suffers reputational losses, because as soon as Iran leaves, the act of the second Marlezon ballet begins in Syria, and there either the full-scale introduction of the ground forces of the Russian Federation and a multiple increase in losses in manpower, equipment, money and international reputation, or leaving, which is equivalent defeat in a small and almost won victorious war.

                Around this whole situation, now a generally excellent in its cuboid-like system has developed at once with five basic elements, moreover, connected by "allied relations", but having multidirectional interests.
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 16 September 2019 22: 26
      +4
      It is vital for the Turks that there is a Syrian state on the border, and not a Kurdish state under the protection of the United States. (The East Euphrates of the United States does just that, and Syria itself is not able to restore or control anything there) The Turks fight for the integrity and security of their state. since they talked about this and continue to say that they are for a united Syria, and it is beneficial for them. Yes, the Turks are developing and their geography of influence is increasing, but this does not mean that they want to chop off foreign lands.
      1. Nychego
        Nychego 16 September 2019 22: 39
        +1
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        this does not mean that they want to chop off foreign lands.

        Turkey may well consider the areas of residence of Turkoman as its own, simply temporarily occupied first by France, then by everyone in order.
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        It is vital for the Turks that there is a Syrian state on the border, and not a Kurdish state under the protection of the United States.

        This will be the subject of negotiations with the Americans. What the United States will ask in exchange for leaving the left bank of the Euphrates and returning the Kurds (and oil) there to be torn apart by any force capable of claiming this fat piece at that time can be guessed, but it is not yet known. To this day, this Kurdish quasi-state is extremely beneficial for Americans, since it creates tension right away at three neighbors: Syria, Turkey and Iraq.
  7. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 September 2019 22: 14
    +2
    The Saudis also suggested that normal air defense be bought from 300/400, maybe they would buy, the petriot would only dishonor himself regularly, although there probably armor would be better for covering.
  8. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -1
    Quote: Kontrik
    They are going to share Syria .. There Russia will decide who to share and who to punish ..! This state is under our control!
    And Iran is also in the sphere of our interests, comrades Jews ..

    Explain:
    1) They were going to share Syria ..
    -They are who, in your opinion? Putin, Erdogan, Rouhani?
    2) There Russia will decide who to share and who to punish ..!
    - That is, it was not Russia that divided Syria, at the moment, into 6 pieces? Who?
    And when will “Russia decide who to divide” and into how many pieces?
    3) This state is under our control!
    - Who are you? And which state is under control? Not where in 6 pieces an incredible number of all sorts of countries and all sorts of organizations create features — what?
    4) And Iran is also in the sphere of our interests, comrades Jews
    - From August 25 to September 17, 1941, the Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran ... and what, you say, have not yet come out?
    But what about "Not even a week has passed since the Russian aviation began to use the Iranian base Hamadan to strike at terrorists in Syria, as Tehran reported that the Russian Aerospace Forces would not use this airfield anymore."
    5) Jews and what if "The president of this country, the leaders of Russia and Iran met in Turkey"?
    Do you suspect that not only Putin is a hidden Jew, but also Erdogan and Rouhani?
    1. protoss
      protoss 17 September 2019 11: 11
      0
      they say that Putin is a hidden Udmurt ... or maybe a secretive Udmurt ... or maybe not a Udmurt, but definitely secretive
      I'm afraid to guess who is Erdogan from Ruhani then
  9. Rwmos
    Rwmos 16 September 2019 23: 03
    +1
    By the way, not the topic, but about BV too ...

    These are holes in the refinery tanks, which were burned by roofing felts of Hussites, roofing felts of Iran, as the United States is basing ... And now we look around the world ...

    And of course, "but we are not here, we are not here, we are eating matzo, playing with a ball" wink
  10. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -1
    Quote: Nychego
    Quote: kit88
    Where is Bashar Hafez al-Assad? Why is he not meeting with anyone and discussing nothing? Is he the president at all or where?

    Well, he’s kind of a president, though mostly sitting on Iranian and Russian bayonets.
    Moreover, it’s easy for him to get off these bayonets - not only to his neighbors, but to a heap of all Alawites, “grateful subjects” will arrange such dances with a “spark” that the UN will have to fork out at least a commission to investigate the act of genocide.

    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: protoss
    he allowed civil war, the collapse of the country, the death and flight of a third of the population. so-so president.

    It's good that he survived when a gang of international thugs with his henchmen fell on him. For this, my respect for him.


    The SAR country is destroyed, the army is weak. He "survived when a gang of international thugs with their henchmen piled on him" only thanks to the Russian Federation, RI, and pro-Iranian forces.
    As far as I remember, Assad had an army of 380 thousand, now 40 thousand, and 20 thousand are actually combat-ready.
    All practical military work is done mainly by the Russian Aerospace Forces, Iranian and pro-Iranian formations.
    1. Nychego
      Nychego 17 September 2019 11: 50
      0
      Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
      All practical military work is done mainly by the Russian Aerospace Forces, Iranian and pro-Iranian formations.

      I completely agree. Exactly due to the fact that Assad himself had no forces capable of not only defeating the Igil shellup and bending other Syrian variegated rabbis, but also at least a year to stay in power, he actually had to exchange sovereignty for Iran to support his power, for which Syria only a foothold in the first Shiite-Israeli war and Russia, which has solved a whole range of its military-political problems, and, frankly, the very small blood of Russian soldiers (I do not consider mercenary minders - greedy and stupid will always be found in a poor country).
  11. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 16 September 2019 23: 19
    0
    Met in Turkey the president of this country, the leaders of Russia and Iran who held a meeting in the so-called Astana format on the settlement of the situation in Syria.


    And who, I apologize for naturalism, wrote pornography?
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  13. rruvim
    rruvim 16 September 2019 23: 51
    0
    Tomorrow is the Knesset election. That will be fun ... laughing
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 17 September 2019 06: 23
      0
      Under these elections, the United States and offer a contract for the protection of Israel. It will be interesting to see at what price?
  14. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 17 September 2019 01: 51
    +2
    The United States, everywhere not only in Syria, is acting according to the principle "The worse the better"
  15. ALLxANDr
    ALLxANDr 17 September 2019 07: 04
    0
    The Geneva format for all the years of its existence has shown complete incapacity for resolving the conflict in the SAR. Perhaps this was Washington’s task?

    Exactly! The same is with the UN, countries that are "unwanted" began to hinder the issuance of visas. Translations of meetings in Russian have ceased to appear, and so on. The same can be said about the big 8, PACE. Everywhere the same picture - as long as the United States acts in its own interests, then lightning-fast decisions in these institutions. As soon as the interests of others appear - complete indifference. But, God forbid, these interests intersect - the whole nature of Western politicians begins to show, linking processes, distortion of facts, double standards.
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 17 September 2019 07: 17
    0
    Putin said in Ankara that Syria should not be divided into zones of influence

    Yes, yes, and who will be the "overseer" ... in general?
    There for a long time they will not agree among themselves, the Syrians themselves .... this tramp for a long time.
  17. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -1
    Quote: protoss
    they say that Putin is a hidden Udmurt ... or maybe a secretive Udmurt ... or maybe not a Udmurt, but definitely secretive
    I'm afraid to guess who is Erdogan from Ruhani then

    Putin has ancestors from the Tver region. The last name of the Putin came from the village of Turginov and the village of Pominova, which is literally a couple of tens of kilometers from that God-forsaken village, where "all the Karelians". Tver Karelians and Vepsians.
    "- The Putin family comes from the Vesyegonsky District of the Tver Region," says N. Abramov, an active representative of the Vepsian people in Karelia. "The Vesyegonsky District is the" All Egonskaya "- that is, the Vepsians.
    “Kolya says that Putin is a Veps,” continues A. Grigoriev, chairman of the Karelian Congress organization. - I can say on the same grounds that Vladimir Putin is a Karelian. Because we have Vepsians and Karelians mixed. Especially southern Karelians - Livviks. Outwardly, Putin is a purebred Karelian or Vepsian. Anthropological image: Abramov and Grigoriev note a narrow face, almond-shaped eyes, a large nose and lips. Abramov and Grigoriev, representing the Vepsian and Karelian peoples, respectively, have the same characteristics.
    The surname Putin has its meaning in the Livvik dialect of the Karelian language. "Putin mies" - they talk about a good, "good" person. We look into the newest Karelian-Russian dictionary and really find the word putin in the meaning of "good". http://www.rep.ru/daily/2008/03/19/13393/