Medvedev called United Russia’s leading political force

After the elections of various levels held on the eve of all 85 regions of the Russian Federation without exception, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev spoke about their results. Recall that Medvedev leads United Russia.

According to the head of the Russian Cabinet, while the final results are only being formed, data on exit polls already suggest that the EP party is the main political force in our country. Dmitry Medvedev said that United Russia retains leading positions in the Russian Federation.

Medvedev:

Citizens supported our candidates, as well as those candidates whom our party helped, for whom they supported.

Recall that on the eve of the election process touched 47 thousands of elective positions from the Kaliningrad region to Sakhalin.

So, in the election of the governor of the Northern capital, Alexander Beglov is leading at the moment. According to preliminary data, about 64% of voters cast their votes for it (this is after counting approximately 81% of ballots).

The victory in the elections of the governor of the Sakhalin Region was won by Valery Limarenko with the result of 56,15%. At the same time, the turnout amounted to about 37,4 percent of voters.

Vadim Shumkov (self-nominated candidate supported by United Russia) wins the election of the governor of the Kurgan region. He has about 80% of the vote.

In the Vologda region, about 62,2% of the current governor is gaining Oleg Kuvshinnikov (representative of "EP").

Recall that previously the sociological monitoring services provided data on the rating of "United Russia" at a level not higher than 37-38%.

Comments

[Dmitry Potapov]

Not a man, but a fairy tale!

[Trotil42]

Medvedev called .... the leading political force ... specify, the leading power of Russia ... into the abyss ....

[Tatyana]

After the elections of various levels held on the eve of all 85 regions of the Russian Federation without exception, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev spoke about their results. Recall that Medvedev leads United Russia.

Unfortunately it's true.
Yesterday I was in the elections in St. Petersburg and I can confirm this.

In addition to edrosov, in principle, there was no one else to choose. Not a single candidate from the Communists for the post of governor of St. Petersburg. Beglova (EP) - acting measure of St. Petersburg - at the post measure of St. Petersburg, the people at least know that it really works.

In municipalities, too, there was no one to choose, except for old cadres born in 1947-1956, and they are all from the EP.
There were no Communist candidates on the list at all.
Next on the list are some "jerks" of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia at the age of 17 and self-nominated businessmen - also from the Liberal Democratic Party.

We can say that the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia in the elections in St. Petersburg, with a large number of its candidates "bombed" the northern capital of Russia. And the LDPR members will certainly pass in the elections, since there were only 4 candidates from United Russia on the electoral list, the rest - in my opinion, more than 10 people - from the LDPR.

[vic02]

Unfortunately it's true.

Not everywhere. KHABAROVSK, September 9 - RIA News. The LDPR in the Khabarovsk Territory received the majority of votes at all levels of elections that took place on Sunday, the head of the regional election commission Gennady Nakushnov said at a press conference. KHABAROVSK, September 9. / TASS /. LDPR candidates receive 24 out of 25 seats in the city council of Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

[Tatyana]

Quote: vic02

LDPR candidates receive 24 out of 25 seats in the city council of Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

Unfortunately, this is also not good.
I have known the Liberal Democratic Party since the 1990s.

First, let's look at the very name of the Liberal Democratic Party, which speaks for itself.
1. Liberal means bourgeois.
2. Democratic - in combination with the word "bourgeois" means "democracy for the bourgeoisie" or "power of the bourgeoisie"
3. Party - means the political vanguard of the power of the bourgeoisie.
4. Russia - means the political vanguard of the power of the Russian bourgeoisie.

Secondly. If you look at how LDPR votes in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, then it votes for government proposals, as a rule, in the same way as the deputies of the EP, although before that, LDPR from the rostrum of the State Duma of the Russian Federation voted against it.

Thirdly. In 1993, I happened to write a scientific and political review of the LDPR program, which this party almost adopted. However, Zhirinovsky on time refused her.
In the LDPR, the most intelligent and advanced is its leader V.V. Zhirinovsky. The rest of the mass is a youth career-conjunctural "riffraff" with consumer inclinations to receive benefits here and now, not working much anywhere.

TOTAL. In the person of the Liberal Democratic Party as a whole, we get the prototype of the NSDAP in Germany (National Socialist German "workers" party of A. Hitler) 1923-1933.

[vic02]

My opinion about LDPR is similar, but here I see 2 reasons for voting for LDPR. The first is that people voted in a consolidated manner for one party in order to oppose power resources, in the event of a scatter, EP could take first place for both. The second - Mr. Zyuganov in the neighboring Primorsky Territory clearly showed everyone how he could at the most crucial moment substitute a candidate from his party for the election of the governor, in fact Zyuganov betrayed his voters in Primorye.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Tatiana

Not a single candidate from the Communists for the post of governor of St. Petersburg. Beglova (EP) - acting measure of St. Petersburg - at the post measure of St. Petersburg, the people at least know that it really works.

In municipalities, too, there was no one to choose, except for old cadres born in 1947-1956, and they are all from the EP.
There were no Communist candidates on the list at all.

But what about the communists? Really ..... did not allow their satraps?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Olgovich

But what about the communists? Really ..... did not allow their satraps?

Bortko himself refused early elections in St. Petersburg measures, thereby betraying the Communists of the Communist Party.
In other words, Bortko was sympathetic. As they say, if you took up the tug, then do not say that not a dozen!

And why among the candidates for municipalities there were no communists in the lists, I do not know.
And at the same time, I can only note that actually fact-finding advertising on their elected candidates was thrown into the mailboxes only unicorns - and absolutely no one else! In this case, I do not watch TV. Yes, and my radio is also not always on.
I got acquainted with the candidates on election day only at the stand in the polling station itself. I read about them - and was surprised!
Previously, candidates at least wrote about their program commitments for the development of a region of local scale, but now no one ever does anything!

[RUSS]

Quote: Tatiana

Bortko himself refused early elections in St. Petersburg measures, thereby betraying the Communists of the Communist Party.

Sam ?????? Yeah of course.

[Tatyana]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Tatiana

Bortko himself refused early elections in St. Petersburg measures, thereby betraying the Communists of the Communist Party.

Sam ?????? Yeah of course.

I believe that Bortko refused exactly himself.
I personally had a chance at a political conference to talk with Bortko several years ago, when he was last nominated as a deputy in the State Duma of the Russian Federation from the Communist Party and to listen to his speech.
Bortko made a very good impression on me!
He is a humble, gallant, patient man, but, like any other creative person, Bortko is very impressionable and vulnerable! He does not like to lose. And he is already 73 years old.

Therefore, I fully believe that emotionally and pragmatically Bortko himself "broke" (withdrew) from the elections to the measures of St. Petersburg! It is much easier for him to sit out as a deputy in the State Duma of the Russian Federation.

[vic02]

In other words, Bortko was sympathetic. As they say, if you took up tug, then don’t say that not a dozen

Bortko could have been blamed, if not for the not so long-standing case of Zyuganov’s betrayal of his candidate for governor of Primorye, but in fact of voters who had already elected Ishchenko.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Trotil42

Russia's leading power ... into the abyss ....

Not into the abyss. We are led to the Maidan in order to redraw the foundations of the political system under this sauce. I think they want to do something like Turkmenbashi.

[Cat man null]

Quote: rzzz

They bring us to the Maidan

Excuse me, but who is "you"?

Quote: rzzz

It seems to me...

... no comments, as they say

[Vladimir16]

Quote: rzzz

Not into the abyss. We are led to the Maidan, so that

Who are you?
Most made their choice yesterday. And this is the choice of EP. It’s good, it’s bad everyone chooses it. It is important that people trust the current government. And again they confirmed their choice.

And the dancing people with crutches on their heads are not interested in the opinion of the majority, they always dance.
Only there will be no Maidan, no matter how you try.
You will smoke you will be locked in jail.

Here on this site come off. Put a minus. There are many of you here. And the authors of the statues scolding power about and without it are enough here.
Enjoy the fictional world here.

And Russia, God willing, will live without shocks.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Vladimir16

Most made their choice yesterday. And this is the choice of EP

Most made their choice without coming to this clownery.
And you are just as childishly naive if you believe that the percentage of results at least somehow depends on those crosses that you drew in the cells.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: rzzz

Most made their choice without coming to this clownery.

Do not decide for others.
Responsible for yourself.
It infuriates you that the vast majority of Russian people think differently than you. But this is your problem.
You are not satisfied with the majority opinion and you (you personally) start wagging too much and inventing reasons why the results are not what you expected.

Residents of Russia made their choice.

You lead as the Ukrainian authorities who are not satisfied with the choice of Crimeans.

In Kiev, they do not consider the choice of Crimeans to be right.
You do not consider the choice of the inhabitants of Russia (including Crimea) to be correct.

Respect the opinions of people.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Vladimir16

It infuriates you that the vast majority of Russian people think differently than you

No, their opinion is the most "folk", others just .. can't be!

And these lovers of summer cottages (on election day) finger on finger they did not hit so that the elections would become the way they want them, ostensibly, to see them: neither their candidates from theirs, as they say, "an overwhelming majority ", no party of this" majority ", no observers, no initiatives: nothing! Except, of course, BOTTOM.

It is a SOMEBODY must come, throw in front of them a solitaire of the candidates they NEED (and how will they appear there if the "majority" .. in the dachas), SOMEONE must watch, SOMEONE must sue for the result, etc.

And they agree - only on the ready!

[Rzzz]

Quote: Vladimir16

It infuriates you that the vast majority of Russian residents

Does it infuriate you that the bosses took you on buses on a wonderful day off and were lucky to go to the polls while the vast majority (turnout 20% !!!!!!) rest?

[Dym71]

Quote: rzzz

Most made their choice without coming to this clownery.

Probably also be proud of your position? More precisely, by its absence, you and others like you, voluntarily renouncing your suffrage, by your inaction contribute to cheaters of various stripes and calibers! They didn’t even come to spoil your ballot!

[basmach]

Here the principle is simple - "You did not come, you voted for you" A simple example, yesterday at one of their PECs in the Don Tula region. with a portable ballot box left the PEC at 10-00. They refused to take the observer - there is no place in the car. We returned at 14-30. During this time, 76 people have "passed", 3 ballots for each. Taking into account the road, it turns out 3 minutes for each person. When checking, it turned out that at one address a burned down house, at another, they did not call and go to vote in person, etc. If you do not want to vote, come and spoil the ballot, and they will not be able to throw it

[edasko]

You are only one coming to their elections, confirm the legitimacy of their power. No one cares what you scribble in your newsletter there. The main thing is to come. Mass turnout can not be faked. But you can’t check the vote count in any way. Basically. 20% guys can always add to their candidate.

[Dym71]

Quote: edasko

You are only one coming to their elections, confirm the legitimacy of their power.

And you ignoring your own suffrage cast doubt on it?

Quote: edasko

No one cares what you scribble in your newsletter there.

So do not clumsy, but make your ballot invalid, by the way options "against all" also have a place to be!

Quote: edasko

Basically. 20% guys can always add to their candidate.

At a turnout close to 100%, these twenty will have to be printed, and this is a prison!

[edasko]

You do not understand anything. Yes, I question the legitimacy of power. The more people come to the polls, the easier it is to redistribute votes in favor of their own. This is elementary! Not the ballot is important, participation in the elections is important. Well, write that you are against everyone, and you think that someone will pay attention to it? Your depersonalized voice will go to the general furnace of distribution. You seriously think that with the help of printed papers, those who are now in power will look at the voices of those who are against and say - yes, there is nothing to be done, we are leaving. It is a pity that we did not have time to cover Moscow and Moscow Region with borders, but we are giving up power and money and are leaving. Everything that we climbed over our heads and often corpses, we will give everything to the new deputies. Because Pupkin and Petrov voted against us. Well, as children, honestly. Now, if 3% of voters come to the polls, even if they all vote for United Russia, then the government will feel very uncomfortable. Here's how they live after that? What will the world say about them? Who will deal with them? Yes, in a week they will cancel the pension reform and a bunch of bad taxes, cheaper gasoline and then appoint re-elections. Do not believe?

[Dym71]

Quote: edasko

Do not believe me?

A rolling stone gathers no moss

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: rzzz

Quote: Vladimir16

Most made their choice yesterday. And this is the choice of EP

Most made their choice without coming to this clownery.

This is bad. Small turnout = gives a large% Edra. It is a pity that not everyone understands this.
It is necessary to look at the results of the elections not only in terms of governor's portfolios, but in general for all positions up to the deputies for municipalities. If Edro is everywhere on horseback, then the "stool inmates" can be congratulated not only on the "successful" pension reform, but also on all the "horseradish buns" coming from the government, since recently the government’s tendencies to “sweeten” the people is not observed at all.

[naidas]

Quote: rzzz

Most made their choice without coming to this clownery.

Unfortunately, no one canceled the position of my hut. And the bulk of those who came made their choice, they have something to lose.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Vladimir16

Only there will be no Maidan, no matter how you try.
You will smoke you will be locked in jail.

Whoa, how terrible we are. Bertsa flooring in the morning, polished hard hat? And then you are sitting menacing scribbles scribbling. In the morning - this is because during the day you can’t use a smartphone in the service, right?

[Vladimir16]

Quote: rzzz

In the morning - this is because during the day you can’t use a smartphone in the service, right?

Does it bother you that people around you live differently than you?
About a smartphone, this is completely ridiculous.
Here's to you

What do you limit yourself? The world is so diverse, and you live only with your own illusions.
Imagine for a second that ALL people around have their own opinion. And it may be that your opinion DOES NOT coincide with the opinion of other people.

[whack]

In our region, EP has been blamed all summer. Yesterday in the election, I ask friends for whom they voted. The answer is for er, everything is without exception. To my question, why did you howl all summer on EP and now vote? they are responsible, and who else to vote for. And so it is visible in many regions. Languages ​​waved, waved and how it comes down to driftwood

[Vladimir16]

Quote: whacked

In our region, EP has been blamed all summer.

How many people did you interview?
Five? Maybe ten?
Well, they definitely didn’t reach a thousand. If you are a sociologist, then perhaps a half thousand were able to interrogate.

But in your region I think more than a thousand people live.

What is the habit of people giving their opinion as the opinion of the whole people?
Raise your significance in your own eyes.

And the result is disappointment.

But you put a minus to me and it will become easier for you.

[whack]

But why the hell am I putting you a minus? Thank you very much for your remark. I put you a plus. I live easily. I consider actions of this kind as elections; I consider them to be busy in the anthill. I live very well, I earn very well and yes, I don’t even know the name of my governor. it’s violet to me what party in power and so on. with this power, I was able to live with dignity. and if the government is honest (this does not happen) then I will be super in general.

[savage1976]

But it doesn’t get to the point because there are no options. Opposition parties merged themselves in pursuit by pouring allegedly incriminating evidence on ep instead of talking about their program, goals and measures. And no one even has a program, which means that when they come to power they will start clutching at all levers without understanding the causes and consequences. With these, although it’s bad, they live, with others we’ll simply and quickly bend. And note, not those who start to be rude for ep, make diagnoses, put up labels, this is what opposition forces do. And this also repels them. There are no Puninoids, quilted jackets, sheep, there are people with their own vision of the situation. And when the opposition understands this, develops a program, talks about it, only then will people reach for them.

[Piramidon]

Quote: whacked

and how it comes down to driftwood

And as they looked at the lists of candidates for governors, they chose the least of several evils. They did not dare to vote for the "cooks". In our country, besides the current governor, the rest of the list of candidates are unknown people, private entrepreneurs and pensioners, whom they tried to "promote" a month before the elections. There is no one to choose from.

[whack]

exactly. and everyone understands this! many feet are embarrassed to admit it.

[naidas]

For the first time in 15 years, Yabloko was elected (5 people), the Communist Party -14 people, EP-24 people., Even heels from the opposition. The turnout is not enough.

[bober1982]

Quote: Stas157

You look, wherever you look, at any Internet resources (YouTube, LJ, Facebook ...) everywhere people show literally a hatred of those in power

Why are you so "nаpour ", about YouTube and FB are simply masterpiece - these are under the control of the CIA, in LJ - talkers.

[Stas157]

Quote: bober1982

Why are you so "fired", about YouTube and the FB, it’s just a masterpiece - these are under the control of the CIA, in LJ - talkers.

I do not understand your sarcasm. In your opinion, those who use YouTube and LJ are immediately transferred to the category of CIA agents? If you are not comfortable with it, then name other popular sites where your EdRo with the king would really be in favor. You can’t do this, except to translate members of the forum into agents of the State Department.

[bober1982]

Quote: Stas157

those who use YouTube and LJ

A, Facebook why bashfully missed?
Are you into bloggers? They would all be for forced labor, parasites divorced.

[bober1982]

Quote: Stas157

I personally don’t use it at all (if you are suddenly interested)

I am registered there, I like to "sit" on ukro.banderovskih sites and pages, you learn a lot of curious things, and you don't need any news agency.

Quote: Stas157

Call others yourself, complement me!

Orthodox sites (supplemented), I did this (supplemented).

[Stas157]

Quote: bober1982

Orthodox sites (supplemented), I did this (supplemented).

Popular Orthodox sites? Oxymoron. I have nothing against Orthodoxy (all my relatives are Orthodox), but not a single Orthodox site is comparable in popularity with VO, not to mention YouTube. And what is really all about Putin’s Orthodox sites? Interesting! I thought there was another discussion. Name a couple, it would be interesting to see.

[bober1982]

Quote: Stas157

And what is really all about Putin’s Orthodox sites? Interesting!

What do you argue as an agitprop propagandist? All power from God, you can no longer speak, guess.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stas157

there is no in nature, does not exist, a popular mass platform, a site where the number of Zaputinians prevails ...

... simply because the "zaputintsy", as such, were invented by someone's fevered imagination.

The people agitating against Putin (namely Putin), in my opinion, are divided into the following categories:

- professional dissatisfied (partly on salary, partly purely flood)
- disgruntled pensioners who are "underpowered". What's funny is that there have been enough of them at all times, but the Internet appeared relatively recently, and this extremely active part of society "mastered" it surprisingly quickly
- young stupid, who are not able to realize themselves in life, but in virtual they are "immensely cool"
- Well, and some linear combinations of these options.

The absolute number of these people is small, but their activity on the Internet exceeds the activity of other people by orders of magnitude. What, in fact, creates the illusion of "universal dissatisfaction with Putin" which, in turn, makes it possible for some "talents" to pass off, ahem, what they wish for real

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stas157

Flood that you breed

Yeah. You just started to flood

I state: the opponent merged, to refute a very specific, IMHO, submission:

Quote: Cat Man Null

The absolute number of these people is small, but their activity on the Internet exceeds the activity of other people by orders of magnitude. What, in fact, creates the illusion of "universal dissatisfaction with Putin", which, in turn, makes it possible for some "talents" to pass off, ahem, what they wish for reality

the opponent did not ride.

Given the overall very low level of the opponent - personally, I am not surprised. Rip

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stas157

For this highlighted phrase

Stas number 157, I am a professional programmer. All the rest is your speculation.

Try not to be rude, and you will be happy

[Stas157]

Quote: Okolotochny

I hope that you are not the last to be soldered. You are advertising a site of Navalny on a patriotic site. Stas, are you really crazy?

Well, back up this lie with facts. Give here links where I would advertise Navalny's Site! I don’t even know if Navalny has a website.

[Okolotochny]

Sorry, I didn’t overlook, you wrote FB, I thought FBK. Not right.
And here you are disingenuous:

I don’t even know if Navalny has a website.

How many articles were there on VO on the "materials" of the Anti-Corruption Foundation? And you do not know whose site this is? Stas !!!!! Well, stop it. You also participated in their discussion! Minus put for your cunning.

[Okolotochny]

Stas and the rest of Stasik, as it is petty, you catch your Stasik on a lie and the whole of the church quietly minus. Good luck and do not get sick.

[shura7782]

Quote: bober1982

They would all be for forced labor, parasites divorced.

It’s that retired airplanes technicians are so judged. I would have had a conscience.

[bober1982]

Quote: shura7782

This is what aircraft technicians

And, you, as the rear of the clothing service - judge for the people ?, would have a conscience.

[comradChe]

This metamorphosis is explained very simply. As F.M.Dostoevsky wrote, "A Russian man without Orthodoxy is." And now it is the same substance with Orthodoxy.

[whack]

apparently this is our mentality to blame-yelling at every corner one thing and do otherwise

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stas157

But it’s a strange thing, like elections, so everything is for EdRo! Amazing dissonance. This can only be explained by the following: either some kind of dishonest elections or the zaputinists, for the most part, are not able to use the Internet.

Or do you live in invented you are a world very different from the REAL.

[Saul_Rhen]

The screaming minority on the Internet is far from being "all." Humble yourself.

[Svarog]

Quote: Stas157

You look, wherever you look, at any Internet resources (YouTube, LJ, Facebook ...) everywhere people show literally a hatred of those in power. But it’s a strange thing, like elections, so everything is for EdRo! Amazing dissonance. This can only be explained by the following: either some kind of dishonest elections or the zaputinists, for the most part, are not able to use the Internet.

Stas, this is easily explained, did you not know that the whole organization of trolls works and "drowns" for power .. Here it is, a simple and understandable explanation. You don’t need to prove anything to them .. still don’t prove it, spoil your nerves and the administration of the ban will stick ..

[Okolotochny]

Svarog, look at the first comment by Vladimir 16? Cons for thirty. And who is planting an anti-Russian troll factory here?

[brat07]

You look, wherever you look, at any Internet resources (YouTube, LJ, Facebook ...) everywhere people show literally a hatred of those in power. But it’s a strange thing, like elections, so everything is for EdRo! Amazing dissonance. This can only be explained by the following: either some kind of dishonest elections or the zaputinists, for the most part, are not able to use the Internet.

An interesting look at the voters of our country.
In your opinion, all of them should "sit" on the Internet and read (educate themselves), or write, what a vile party is this - United Russia?
They have nothing else to do in life. By the way, regarding YouTube, there are a very large number of "commentators" from Ukraine, "friendly" to us.
And yes, many people are simply apolitical, although they scold EdRo.
Therefore, the election result is as follows.

[vic02]

And Russia, God willing, will live without shocks.

With the current economic and political course of the country's leadership, this will not work.

[Vladimir16]

It turns out.
GDP has stopped the civil war in our country.
Crimea is again the territory of Russia.

There is no war or turmoil.

So, thank God, we live with a peaceful sky above our heads.

[vic02]

no shocks

Taking 5 years of pension is not a shock for you personally, but for people - yes. The course for a 4-day working week and the corresponding cuts in wages or freezing their growth with a constant rise in prices is not a shock for you, but for people - yes. The course towards the complete abolition of pensions, by the way - too. In general, "things were going on on the collective farm ... one might even say - well, but every year it gets worse and worse."

[Vladimir16]

No, not a shock.
May God live to be 65 years old. Although not much is left, but ...

The main health and family.

Did you really hope to live your own life guided by government plans? Thought that someone other than relatives would think of you?

Maybe this is your disappointment?

The more people around us live on their own without trusting in government, the better our life will be.

Remember:
- Hope for God, but don’t be fooled.

And the government is not God. There are ordinary people.

[vic02]

Dear comrade, we do not live in a spherical vacuum and the state even intervenes in our lives, adopting various laws and lawyers, collecting taxes from us, arranging our people to manage our country's resources, so we should not care where it leads the country and us together with her.

[Vladimir16]

Fun.

I wrote my opinion and my vision.
I said that for me personally, raising the retirement age is not a shock.

But in this I am wrong.
I can’t have an opinion different from those who lived here.
I can not live my mind.

My minus is being beaten for my life.

This is for you, comrades, a hysteria.

[akropin]

You are talking about those points that a normal leader should decide automatically. This is not his feat but his work. For me, the social aspects of the life of people within the country are more important, namely: education, medicine, senior citizens. If everything is gorgeous in these three areas from your point of view, then apparently you are not living in Russia.

[RUSS]

Quote: Vladimir16

It turns out.
GDP has stopped the civil war in our country.

What kind of war is this? Caucasus?

Quote: Vladimir16

Crimea is again the territory of Russia.

So what ?

Quote: Vladimir16

There is no war or turmoil.

Would you have been without him? Under Yeltsin, they could have taken us warm, if they didn’t, what about what? About the third world?

Quote: Vladimir16

So, thank God, we live with a peaceful sky above our heads.

And so with this thought you will slurp soup with bast shoes.

[whack]

and who said that she should and must live without shocks? shocks cannot be cut off from the life of the state.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vladimir16

And this is the choice of EP. It’s good, it’s bad everyone chooses it.

And I am satisfied!
"The worse the better," Dostoevsky once wrote. So people are satisfied with modern medicine, education, pension reform, the nonsense of the brightest representatives of the United Russia. Well then, and rightly so then, no words. Every year a city in the country dies - yes, okay, the mortality rate has increased in 50 regions - yes, okay, 20 million beggars in the country are not enough, you need to catch up to 50. I would like to wish the EP new brightest victories so that the living would envy the dead. But everyone is born and dies alone. Why fight for a people who are happy with everything.

[bober1982]

Quote: Silvestr

"The worse the better" Dostoevsky once wrote

Lenin said so, and not Dostoevsky - do not distort, this is by the way the motto of the liberals of all time.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Silvestr

Why fight for a people who are happy with everything.

Do you "fight" for the people?

Can I lead you?

Share your concern with people.

Or not hunting to bother? It’s easier to blaspheme. More comfortable.

[New Year day]

Quote: bober1982

Lenin said so, not Dostoevsky

learn Russian literature, then they will not poke you in ...

"The worse, the better" - the words belong to FM Dostoevsky (1821 - 1881), who used this expression in the novel (part 3, chapter 9) "The Humiliated and Insulted" (1861).
“Without us, it is impossible, he concluded, without us no society has ever stood. We will not lose, but, on the contrary ... we will still win; we will emerge, we will emerge, and our motto at the present moment should be: Pire ca va, mieux ca est".

Later he will repeat it in his “Diary of a Writer” (January, 1881)
"I only believe that the worse the better... now many people say this to themselves, while others say it aloud ... The worse, the better ... but this is only for others, for everyone, "but let it be as good as possible for me myself" ...

The same turn is found in the letter of A. S. Pushkin to P. A. Vyazemsky (June 24–25 1824 g.): “I wanted to talk with you about the change of the ministry. what do you think about it? I'm glad and no. For a long time the motto of every Russian is the worse the better".
Lenine used this in his work "Three Crises", written July 1917 of the year
Agree, chronology is a stubborn thing

[bober1982]

The countess lived beautifully. The rooms were cleaned comfortably and tastefully .... F.M. Dostoevsky

[New Year day]

Quote: bober1982

The countess lived beautifully

if the countess was reputed to be an oppositionist, then "the worse, the better" has something to do with her

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

20 million beggars in the country

Not sick yet, doctor? Beggars - are on the porch, and a dozen of these 20 million I personally know - their income is higher than mine ... and I’m not complaining about mine, as you may have noticed

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Beggars - are on the porch, but with a dozen of these 20 million. I personally know - they have a higher income than mine ...

Roman, you scare me!
According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the poor are those citizens who cannot receive a minimum of social benefits and services, the specific set of which is described in the consumer basket. The cash equivalent of the “basket” is called the cost of living. The cost of living is now 11 160 rubles.
Do you get less than 11 160 rubles ??
With such a head and 11 rubles near Moscow?
Do not flood, comrade! But not me

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the poor include those citizens who cannot receive a minimum of social benefits and services, the specific set of which is described in the consumer basket

That's right ... almost.

Quote: Silvestr

The cash equivalent of the “basket” is called the cost of living. The cost of living is now 11 160 rubles

Right...

Quote: Silvestr

Do you get less than 11 160 rubles ??

Not. Put things in order - you won’t be mistaken. BUT: I have a white salary, and Rosstat, in particular, knows about it.

About the income of those people about whom I spoke:

Quote: Cat Man Null

... with a dozen of these 20 million. I personally know - they have a higher income than mine ...

... Rosstat somehow doesn’t know about their income

So clearer?

Now, attention is how the original sentence should sound correctly:

The poor include citizens whose income, according to Rosstat, less than the cost of the consumer basket.

Like this - it is absolutely correct

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

The poor include citizens whose income, according to the Federal State Statistics Service, less the cost of the consumer basket.

и

Quote: Silvestr

that can not get

= TAVTALOGY

[Cat man null]

Man, I’ll start to go wild now.

The key to my phrase is Rosstat only knows about the income that he knows about. A person can have a (conditionally) income ofigeliard rubles per hour, but if Rosstat is not aware of this income, then this person is a beggar for Rosstat.

If you don’t even understand this, then ... doctor, you’re working in a hospital, talk ... with colleagues, or something ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

If you don’t even understand this,

I understood this, but the fact that you are close to people who hide incomes and, therefore, evade taxes, that is. criminals, I don’t understand. And then, it was about law-abiding citizens!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

the fact that people close to you hide income, and, therefore, evade taxes, i.e. criminals I don't understand

Well, they haven’t been convicted by a court yet - they’re not criminals at all, right?

And by the way, among your friends there is no one with a black or gray salary? Sorry - I do not believe (c).

Quote: Silvestr

it was about law-abiding citizens

Where, sorry? The official "poor" is a person whose total (official) family income is less than the subsistence level for each family member. And all

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

And by the way, among your friends there is no one with a black or gray salary? Sorry - I do not believe (c).

Do not believe, but they are not. It is not customary for us to take money from customers, because Everyone has a decent salary. Even a hint of such causes dismissal. Well, why take the risk? There you go buddy

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

Do not believe, but they are not. It’s not customary to take money from clients

Well, what can I say ... you're not talking about that again

It was not specifically about your, ahem, organization, or your workmates. And if you have no acquaintances outside of her organization, I can only sympathize

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Well, what can I say ... you're not talking about that again

Yes, about that, about that!
You talked about your environment, I about yours. Moreover, you yourself suggested.

Quote: Cat Man Null

among your friends there is no one with a black or gray salary? Sorry - I do not believe

all for garlic!

[whack]

quite true in my opinion. bad? -change. accordingly, if you don’t change, it’s good. and point !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir16

And the authors of the statues scolding power about and without it are enough here

In Russia, at all times, the authorities are criticized. Only from 1924 to 1953 did not scold the year.

[Cat man null]

Quote: tihonmarine

Only from 1924 to 1953 did not scold the year

Were afraid. Scolding was very fraught with sideways

[Vladimir16]

Quote: tihonmarine

Only from 1924 to 1953 they did not scold.

Yah?
But what about political prisoners?
Did they work out their chanting of power at the construction sites of the country?

Maybe the civil war was from universal agreement?
Or all those who disagree by the 24th year buried in the graves?

And if there was a general agreement from the 24th to the 53rd, then the otkel dissent came from the 54th? and further.
Where did these undeveloped destroyers of the communist hostel come from?

Maybe not everyone wanted to live in a commune?

[Saul_Rhen]

Scolded, but not for long)

[romandostalo]

[quote] Most yesterday made their choice quote] Most didn’t give a damn! The average turnout in Russia is 33 percent ...

[Vanek]

Quote: Vladimir16

Most made their choice yesterday.

MOST?!

There are 1 inhabitants in Novosibirsk. Of these, about a third have approximately the right to vote.

Oh well. Half.

And the media write about the turnout of 120.

WHERE IS BLINN * THIS IS MOST?

Who votes how it does not matter. As they say.

That is where the question is.

Most...

[Cat man null]

Quote: Vanek

That's where the question is

Read the election law, you will understand a lot.

Note, I have never said that this law is white and fluffy. But, nevertheless, "sed lex"

[vic02]

Most made their choice yesterday. And this is the choice of EP

I present the video, how "people make their choice" in the Krasnogvardeisky region of Crimea. https://www.facebook.com/alexandr.talipov/posts/2470701963024034 I suspect that there will be no criminal cases here again, unlike the Moscow actions, this is the correct crime.
In Sevastopol, in the Legislative Assembly of the United Russia, which previously occupied it entirely, "suddenly" lost more than half of its seats https://social.primechaniya.ru/blog/43335611112/V-zaksobranie-Sevastopolya-prohodyat-pyat-partiy, and those that received - this is thanks to the organized participation of the sailors, who do not care who they say they vote for. https://social.primechaniya.ru/blog/43408122434/Samozvantsyi,-narushiteli-i-moryaki:-kak-v-Sevastopole-proshel-d "By 10 o'clock in the morning, queues from the military began to form at the sites. On some of them the number of voters from the Black Sea Fleet exceeded civilians by five times. "

[Rzzz]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Excuse me, but who is "you"?

We are not you. Everything will be fine with you, glory to EP!

[Cat man null]

Quote: rzzz

We are not you

This is not an answer. Yes, by the way, it’s understandable. And hereinafter - more interesting:

Quote: rzzz

I am a Muscovite in the third generation, this is my city and my country

Um ... Muscovite ... about "whose city" - I'm exactly right, but about the "country" - here you are strongly zagging, IMHO

Quote: rzzz

But where does this trash come from, which immediately changes to the personality? I don’t know, and I don’t want to know

Well, like a Muscovite. So who was carrying it here, as you say, this is the most:

Quote: rzzz

Everything will be fine with you, glory to EP!

For reference: neither in the Union, nor in the Russian Federation I have never had a relationship with any of the parties. What I am proud of

But the screamers, agitators, guttural leaders - I hate to endure. You mark there at your place

[Trotil42]

Sadness ... but I have the same opinion ...

[RUSS]

Quote: rzzz

Not into the abyss. We are led to the Maidan to redraw the foundations of the political system under this sauce

Common opinion, rather it is

[Vanek]

Quote: Trotil42

I clarify, by the withdrawing power of Russia ... into the abyss ....

Rossiю*

[Digital error]

Quote: Trotil42

I clarify, by the withdrawing force of Russia ... into the abyss

Those who do not think so did not come to the polls. The overall turnout in the September 8 elections was 41,2%. The majority of voters agree with everything in advance - and I don't know what else EdRo should do to increase the turnout. Probably, introduce coupons for the Internet.

[Obstacle]

Sounds almost like - "Fabulous Man"!

[Rostovchanin]

In the morning I woke up, climbed up the voting statistics and broke, woke up the children ... People, against the background of the pension reform, refuse to vote for Edro without exception, and according to the Central Election Commission, 70% voted for Edro ... delirium ...

[210ox]

What kind of nonsense? All right, these same 37% came .. The rest scored. So ... the people got to the boyars good. He does not go to the vote, but complains.

[Rostovchanin]

Do you think that there are so many Edor fanatics?

[210ox]

You’ll be surprised, enough. I already wrote how my colleagues vote at work. They raise the retirement age to at least a hundred, anyway for Edro. The question is why do we vote like that? It’s a logical answer, but not for anyone other than how. But in fact, it’s true that the Field has been cleaned up, the opponents of the EDR are freaks. Who will vote for them? Personally, I messed up the ballot, crossed out all of them.

[Petr1]

Yes, they threw your spoiled one and they threw a new one for edro. Anyway, you don’t recognize

[Rzzz]

Quote: Rostovchanin

Do you think that there are so many Edor fanatics?

56% of the 37% who came - about 20% is obtained.

[mikh-korsakov]

And here are the fanatics. The opposition had to present to the people a program that they could understand, the people, to withdraw Russia from the swamp. and not run around the squares, and engage in fakes. A week ago, I received an interesting leaflet from an "independent" candidate, in which he announced that he was a "candidate for man", what is it! but I thought the human candidate was a gorilla, or a smart dog. Even on Friday, I did not intend to vote in municipal elections for EdRo, under any circumstances. But on Saturday, when campaigning is prohibited, I found two leaflets in the mailbox - one unsigned, one from some mythical headquarters of the fighters. These leaflets were full of "revelations" and contained dirty curses against candidates from EdRo. But the authors did not take into account that our town is small, and I personally know many candidates, one of them brought our park in perfect order and never once wrote about what they wrote, other people are also well-known and intelligent. Therefore, I did not change these people into liars and "human candidates" and voted for those I know, simply out of anger and out of principle. If someone is thinking. that these leaflets are a cunning plan of EdRo himself - I don't think - they are not masochists.

[New Year day]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

and not run around the squares, and deal with fakes.

just where they ran and achieved the result: the United Russia Party lost 20 seats in Moscow, albeit allegedly to the "opposition". But it is enough to remember everything that happened the day before, at what cost it is given. And so that there is no opposition - the main task of the authorities and they are successful in this

[mikh-korsakov]

Sylvester! With all due respect. But. United Russia lost less. Because in the old Duma there were not only United Russia. This is the opposition Communist Party? By the way, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation just went to a rally once, and they did not spit at the police, not even in a figurative sense. Further, it was not Zyuganov who did not allow Platoshkin to run for office in Moscow. But this man didn’t just shout "oh, how painful" and didn’t say in a bass voice that he had a 10-point program, like Zyuganov. I doubt that he knows them by heart, all the same age. Platoshkin had a real program, and most importantly, he made public the means to solve them. And he had a chance. Instead, Platoshkin was thrust into the Khabarovsk Territory for some reason. And that he is to the Khabarovsk Territory, and that Khabarovsk is to him. As for Yabloko, will it be of any use? They have been sitting in St. Petersburg for several years. And all their activity is expressed by the slogan "Piggy against", and this is not creation.

[New Year day]

I agree, I say, “supposedly the opposition”

[Vladimir16]

Quote: 210ox

So ... the people of the boyars got a good one. He does not go to the vote, but complains.

You are complaining, but you are hiding for the "people". And right there you call the inhabitants of Russia a humiliating people.

Did you get bad people?

[Saul_Rhen]

Our opposition is always the wrong people. Classic.

[New Year day]

Quote: Saul_Rhen

Our opposition is always the wrong people. Classic.

That's for sure. But why in 100 years then 3 revolutions?

[Okolotochny]

Abroad "helped." And the Bolsheviks too. By the way, while Lenin was in "brutal emigration" .... in Switzerland Kolchak explored the Russian North.

[New Year day]

Quote: Okolotochny

Abroad "helped." And the Bolsheviks too

helped, but to Lenin. And before Lenin there were two more revolutions. Did the West also help Yeltsin?

[Okolotochny]

Essno, it is stupid to deny, especially the bonds of the mouth of the President of the Russian Federation "God bless America." They don't talk badly about the dead, and I won't. For its center in Yekaterinburg - to demolish and build the Temple of Repentance.
"Abroad" Helped not only Lenin, but Trotsky? And others? Where did you hide from the Tsar's Okhranka? Doesn't it look like anything? Modern times? Only now they are hiding not from the political police, but from the criminal-economic. By the way, Sylvester, I just like you, you defend your point of view, in many respects you do not agree with it, but I respect it. But, don't you understand that times repeat themselves? Is it the same again? And then in whose favor are you "playing"?

[New Year day]

Quote: Okolotochny

But, don’t you understand that times are repeating?

I’ve been talking about this for years, Putin is on the path of Nicholas II. Voluntarily or involuntarily, but the analogy itself is rushing into the eyes. The question is, how does a rational person consciously walk along this trail? After all, everything bad in the inner life is his fault and this is obvious! Let not himself, but his nominees!

Quote: Okolotochny

And then in whose favor are you "playing"?

I play in favor of at least some justice. If Putin brings it, let it be until the end. But it’s impossible to look indifferently at stupidity, corruption.

Quote: Okolotochny

its center in Yekaterinburg is to demolish and put up the Temple of Penance.

very good idea! I am for!

Quote: Okolotochny

Only now, they are not hiding from the political police, but from the criminal economic one.

so is there really no power in the country that can minimize this? Maybe eat, but does not want?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

Putin follows the path of Nicholas II

Um ... but for some reason I remembered an interview with Deripaska from 2006, if my memory sleeps with me, years:

... ON. And Putin, excuse me, is he a manager? Or does he make decisions?
O.D. - The President of Russia is a kind of top manager managing the whole country ... Under this you can give money, which we do.
ON. - "We" are big business?
O.D. - "We" are Russia's real power. Big business is part of our technology.
ON. - If it’s not a secret, who is in your circle?
O.D. - What is the secret? All those who have consistently united around the first president of Russia Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, who have taken the liberty to make difficult economic and social decisions ...
ON. - Can you name the names of your circle?
O.D. - The governor of Chukotka Roman Abramovich, I am at your service, too ...

So I think - where is Deripaska now? And Abramovich? And what about the "seven bankers" inherited from the EBN only when Putin came to the top?

Sylvester, is this for sure "the path of Nicholas II"?

Quote: Silvestr

After all, everything bad in the inner life is his fault and this is obvious! Let not himself, but his nominees!

And Medvedev - exactly "Putin's nominee"? Right now, not long ago?

I have the impression that there are several "centers of power" in the Russian Federation, some of which are supported (conditionally) by Putin, others (also conditionally) by Medvedev. Don't you think so?

Quote: Silvestr

impossible to look indifferent at stupidity, corruption

Do you have corruption in the hospital? You said no.
How long (honestly) did it take to get her gone?
Now multiply your hospital so that it is fat the size of the Russian Federation. And time, too, multiply, and then raise a degree to some thread. Square, IMHO, will not be enough

Quote: Silvestr

is there really no power in the country that can minimize this? Maybe eat, but does not want?

And there is, and "wants". But it's all very slow.

But still it is - see above about Derirybka, for example

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

O.D. - "We" are Russia's real power. Big business is part of our technology.

I think Deripaska is a little liar

Quote: Cat Man Null

where is Deripaska now? And Abramovich? And what about the "seven bankers" inherited from the EBN only when Putin came to the top?

they were replaced by Rotenbergs, Sechins, etc. names dear to the heart

Quote: Cat Man Null

And Medvedev - exactly "Putin's nominee"? Right now, not long ago?

want to say that Medvedev threw his cartridge? Well then, this is evidence of a poor personnel policy. Even worse!

Quote: Cat Man Null

I have the impression that there are several "centers of power" in Russia, on some of them Putin is based (conditionally), on others (also conditionally) - Medvedev. Don't you think so?

I read about these centers somewhere, I don’t remember. But the essence is this: there are centers, but both centers on the Lubyanka. Between them is a war for power and for access to the body. Golunov is an example of war. Other centers are, maybe. but what can they produce? ”“ Money? ” It’s ridiculous. Where power is there and money, where money is there and power. Primary power. No wonder they strive for deputies, mayors, governors. The rest will follow.

Quote: Cat Man Null

Do you have corruption in the hospital? You said no.
How long (honestly) did it take to get her gone?

with regards to my personal team, no. At least, I have not heard, such things cannot be hidden. As in the rest of the divisions? Probably the same. The rules are the same for everyone. Why did it become so? The boss came and said, "that's it." And it all stopped very quickly

Quote: Cat Man Null

And there is, and "wants". But it's all very slow.

but here I do not agree. In the Golunov case, such names and titles / posts surfaced that they simply have no time to fight corruption, since they are corruption.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

New Year day

Ugh ... with you minimally seriously, and you again for your ... okay, drove through

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Ugh ... with you minimally seriously

Novel. I answered you in all seriousness. What does not suit you?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

I seriously answered you

Good. Go.

Quote: Silvestr

With regards to my team personally, no. At least, I haven’t heard, you can’t hide such things.
...
The boss came and said, "that's it." And it all stopped very quickly

Someone goes to your employee, for example, for a consultation (not necessarily just for her). Not through the clinic. For money.

Is it possible? IMHO yes. Do you recognize this? IMHO no. Is this corruption? Undoubtedly.

Here's an example from life (he did it himself, it was necessary urgently), "break"

[New Year day]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Someone is contacting your employee, for example, for advice

and it’s done for free. I must admit that we are not working at the consultation, near the clinic.
The question is that we operate for free. There are two reasons for this;
1. installation of administration
2. The solvency of the population fell sharply. The wife works in a commercial clinic - due to a lack of patients, the contraction of space and doctors.
Although, I must admit, the hospital is nearby, so right there, before the hospitalization, they prescribe the amount and the only way to get there.
With regards to mine, I can’t guarantee all that has been said, since people are people. But what was earlier, it is possible to compare
This is how two different hospitals live in neighboring areas

[Cat man null]

Quote: Silvestr

it's done for free

So - there is a queue. Can not eat (s). And then - see above -

Quote: Cat Man Null

he did it himself, it was urgent

Quote: Silvestr

With regards to mine, I can’t guarantee everything said, since people are people

But this is the key point. You cannot guarantee this within the organization with the staff ... well, a lot of 1000 people. And at the same time, for some reason, you think that there is a wizard in the world who can guarantee the same thing nationwide

Not funny, you know

[Okolotochny]

So still hiding? Do you agree? Do not feel calm?

[New Year day]

Quote: Okolotochny

So still hiding? Do you agree? Do not feel calm?

Of course, only the magnitude of fears depends on the proximity to power

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rzzz

About about 20% is obtained.

The real figure.

[Saul_Rhen]

And the rest is exactly for those you need? Sure?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Saul_Rhen

And the rest is exactly for those you need?

With accuracy, but vice versa.

[Far B]

Right Here in our Khabarovsk Territory, far more than 37 percent passed, and immediately Edro in on-nus. True, the Liberal Democratic Party was at the top, which is never better, as for me, but the result is indicative - the people who dumped the United Russia election last year realized that they could influence something. And he came. And influenced.
Only here is the Liberal Democratic Party ... Some aftertaste remains.

[Petr1]

No, it’s all a matter of voting method, it’s secret, for example, people didn’t come to vote. What prevents rogues and thieves from counting these votes?
And in your case. That’s edro. That the Liberal Democratic Party is all one. The main thing is not the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Well, if the vote was open and everyone could see their counted vote. Then there would be a result.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Petr1

Right Here in our Khabarovsk Territory, far more than 37 percent passed, and immediately Edro in on-nus. True, the Liberal Democratic Party was at the top,

And the people did not please you
He did not synthesize the people, he did not choose the people who are dear to your heart.
EP is not nice to you, the Liberal Democratic Party is not to your taste.
Some people are not smart

[Petr1]

There is only one link, but do you have time to write to me at work? Together with a pissing cat

[Cat man null]

Quote: Petr1

Together with a pissing cat

Honey, are you talking about? I treat my relatives with trepidation, understand

[Russia]

Quote: Petr1

There is only one link, but do you have time to write to me at work? Together with a pissing cat

Man, and you yourself are not from the royal tribe, where Peter1 ruined the air first, as Greenpeace says to you armpit.

[Okolotochny]

Petyunchik, don’t be so nervous, my dear?

[Trotil42]

The meaning of walking? Before the vote, even at the municipal level or YADROSOVETS .. or a freak ... if they do not show up, they will vote themselves ..

[Trotil42]

Sorry ... missed ... after the words even at the municipal level .. they don’t allow ... once again I'm sorry .. something was worried ...

[Petr1]

Voting citizens for edro as gays. It is audible that there are many of them. But not one is visible

[SSR]

Quote: Rostovchanin

and according to the CEC, for Edro 70% voted ... nonsense ...

Here, most likely, "from the evil one", the voter turnout is minimal and the admin resource from EDRA is mainly involved, that's like a victory of 70% with a turnout of 30% (conditionally) and if the turnout were 70-80%, then EDRA had indicators would be much lower.

[tomket]

Quote from S.S.R.

) and if the turnout were 70-80%, then at EDRA the indicators would be much lower.

And who prevented all "humiliated and insulted" from going to the polls and voting? Well, except for your laziness.

[SSR]

Quote: tomket

Quote from S.S.R.

) and if the turnout were 70-80%, then at EDRA the indicators would be much lower.

And who prevented all "humiliated and insulted" from going to the polls and voting? Well, except for your laziness.

This is another topic.))

[Trotil42]

Rave? In the elections to the Duma, the largest turnout (according to the Central Committee of the Russian Federation) was in the Belovsky district of Kuzbass ... 94 percent ... even comatose came to vote along with the scourges drug addicts and prisoners .. and voted as one for the Kernel .. I myself from Kuzbass ... Belovsy district is continuous mines and open pits .. how could miners vote at a depth of 300 meters? Yes, they hate them there .. wildly hard work ... risky .. harmful ... well if 50 thousand rubles. they pay ... and they tell me from the TV ... everything for the CORE ... they just don’t allow the rest ... and throw ballots ...

[Alf]

Quote: Rostovchanin

and according to the CEC, it was for Edro that 70% voted.

ARRIVED, not living.

[Svarog]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Not a man, but a fairy tale!

Everything is fabulous there ..

[tomket]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Not a man, but a fairy tale!

Let it whisper in the streets of the enemy capital that the prince is robbing the people, the advisers betrayed him, the officials drunk, and the soldiers are hungry and barefoot.
Let the inhabitants maim the name of their prince and pronounce it incorrectly ...
Let them feel full when they are full, that they are starving. Let wealthy residents envy those who graze cattle in the Principality of Wei.
Kindle the inner fire not with fire, but with a word, and the fools will begin to complain and curse their homeland.
And then we will go through the open gate. "

Sun Tzu. "Art of War"

[Okolotochny]

Exactly. But this camarilla is useless to explain something.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

the party "ER" is the main political force in our country

Not only and not so much the main political, but how MUCH THE THIEF !!!

[whack]

It seems that others will come, everything will work out. Isn’t it easier to take the current top and redo it for normal work and the result ??? And then we will wait until the Chinese Easter for a messiah with bright ideas and deeds. I will answer my own question. No one will redo the current government, as it is very troublesome, difficult and SOME. It is easier to howl from every angle about a change of power and all. We ourselves deserve such power.

[pexotinec]

Party of the collapse of the country. And snickering bureaucrats. Already in the open people in no way put.

[Same lech]

Medvedev:

Citizens supported our candidates, as well as those candidates whom our party helped, for whom they supported.

Announce the list please ... how many percent of all the people of Russia supported EP.
Personally, I have long lost confidence in this party.

[Saul_Rhen]

OK. Personally crossed out by you.

[pin_code]

this Mr. has a high conceit however ...

[samarin1969]

"... EP" is the main political force in our country ... "
These people certainly know how to choose a convenient wording and paper.
But the demonstrative "absentism" of the population is an unambiguous crisis of democracy in the Russian Federation. What will be next?

[Far B]

And why be surprised if in a number of regions, governor candidates even from parliamentary parties are not allowed to participate in elections, and party lists are removed? Where in such a situation will the people have confidence in the "democratic institution"? If the head of the CEC Ellochka says to the inadmissible candidates: "Solve your problems through the CEC", and in the next scene he gets wet eyes: "The CEC cannot influence the electoral committee of St. Petersburg" - where can there be trust? Circus with horses.

[milton]

She shocked Asian with shocker Asian is not in adequate

[Far B]

Uh, no! Vibrator (crossed out) by the shocker she shunned in the next scene))) Although, I admit that she had shunned before, only she didn’t tell anyone about it.

[tomket]

Quote: Dalny V

Uh, no! Vibrator (crossed out) by the shocker she shunned in the next scene))) Although, I admit that she had shunned before, only she didn’t tell anyone about it.

Oh, something has already gone according to Freud. Indulge in?

[Far B]

Oh, something has already gone according to Freud. Indulge in?

Grandfather Freud reads your lines and weeps with happiness, you are our latent ...

"Stop the thief!" the thief himself shouts the loudest. It's funny .. I didn’t know that there are such clear confirmation of proverbs and sayings like you.

[tomket]

Quote: Dalny V

"Stop the thief!" the thief himself shouts the loudest. It's funny .. I didn’t know that there are such clear confirmation of proverbs and sayings like you.

So it is here that you demonstrate your unbridled imagination and remarkable experience. Grandfather Freud applauds you, wiping away the tears of happiness. Generally, to be honest. Your above written nonsense, unworthy of the words of a man. however, I'm not sure if you are one.

[Far B]

unworthy of the words of a man. However, I’m not sure that you belong to those

And with what fright did you decide that you are generally able to give such assessments?

[tomket]

Quote: Dalny V

And with what fright did you decide that you are generally capable of evaluating this?

Perhaps this allows me to do education. An example of parents. Received education. Traditions. Yes, and just humanity. For you, JUDGING ON YOUR FIRST FAST, and how you continue to respond to criticism of your misbehavior. All this is completely absent. Therefore, do not bother yourself, go crave a beer, and continue to decompose morally.

[Far B]

I don’t drink beer. But I love to decompose morally. Envy silently

[Okolotochny]

Wet dreams!

[tomket]

Quote: Trotil42

NOT ... didn’t shy away .. he messed up with her ... she was crazy about him ... the guy got crazy ... it’s good that she didn’t let go of the old man ... otherwise he was a boy and there was no boy ...

Grandfather Freud reads your lines and weeps with happiness, you are our latent ....

[Trotil42]

And here is Freud? Remember the assassination attempts ... on Yeltsin .. when he was thrown off the bridge and he came home all wet (pissing?) .. or on Chubais when the former GRU colonel allegedly fired at his car to break through which was not possible at all in another place and left for it’s three years (Kvachkov) ... then the truth admitted that this could not be .. Ellochka stirs up some kind of nonsense .. trying to distract people from the fact of election fraud ... so this is your EDROSOVSKAYA latency ...

[tomket]

Quote: Trotil42

Ellochka is stirring up some kind of nonsense .. trying to distract people from the fact of election fraud ... so this is your latency EDROSOVSKAYA ...

It's good that you are not distracted from the secret reptilian invasion.

[Trotil42]

I am very glad of your solidarity with Ellochka ... you’re diagnosed .... EDROVETSI to help you ... people who have carried out 4 time reforms in the country .. read the storyline of Ellochka herself ... unknown in the mask tried to hit her with a shocker that was not included. .bad ... throwing a chair at him, she neutralized it ... she saw it coolly .. then she called the police .. drank a sedative and went to bed ... WELL ... more like a BDSM .... and her erotic fantasies are not a healthy plan .. if you believe in it as an attempt ... You are a diagnosis ...

[Svarog]

Quote: samarin1969

What will be next?

More fairy tales just will not turn into a reality ..

[Fitter65]

Citizens supported our candidates, as well as those candidates whom our party helped, for whom they supported.

True, in the Khabarovsk Territory the people of United Russia threw in full. Won with a huge margin of LDPR.

According to preliminary data from the electoral commission, according to party lists 56,23% of the votes went to liberal democrats, 16,97% to the Communists, 12,78% to United Russia. As for the districts, 22 out of 24 seats were won by representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party, one seat was won by the Communist Party, and a self-nominated candidate will take another seat in the Duma.

[Vladleslaf]

LDPR pocket party edra, sense of their victory as a goat of bird milk.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Vladleslaf

LDPR pocket party edra, sense of their victory as a goat of bird milk.

How to say. Look at what Sergey Ivanovich Furgal really did in just one year, by the way he was in the Liberal Democratic Party, now being the governor, he suspended his membership in the party, to many. Therefore, people really believed

Quote from AUL

IMHO, they voted not so much for the Liberal Democratic Party as against the edra (ПЖиВ)!

No, they really voted for the Liberal Democratic Party, if it were just against the EP, then the ratio between the other candidates would be different.

[AUL]

Quote: Fitter65

True, in the Khabarovsk Territory the people of United Russia threw in full. Won with a huge margin of LDPR.

IMHO, they voted not so much for the Liberal Democratic Party as against the edra (ПЖиВ)!

[balunn]

This is the only way out of the situation when there is nobody except EdRa. Vote for anyone just not for them.

[Mavrikiy]

Medvedev called United Russia’s leading political force

What else remains for him? He will call himself the most worthy and will call for voting.

[polar fox]

and what to expect from an organism that measures salaries in the country with bottles?

[zache]

You talk to the body, he just thinks so ... Compare his physiognomy with the declining organism from the square. Very familiar "bags".

[polar fox]

Quote: zaches

Compare his physiognomy with the decaying organism from an independent one.

Yes, I already, from those close to the body I know that a bruise.)))

[zache]

Well what are you! It’s just that the body drinks because it has thirst and liver, and it’s doing well and that’s why it doesn’t refuse anything to itself.

[Vladleslaf]

Recall that previously the sociological monitoring services provided data on the rating of "United Russia" at a level not higher than 37-38%.

but as always it will be that they will draw it, it is not for nothing that the "presenter" ...

[Bazilevs81]

The main swindler and thief announced "we are eating Russia"

[Mixweb]

I am from the Stavropol Territory. Before the election, the current governor had a rating of about 10%. According to surveys, people were going to vote for the candidate from the Communist Party. They gave him from 70 to 80% of the vote. But a miracle happened. Being the worst governor of all time with an aggravating circumstance in the form of a candidate from edRo, he scored more than 80 percent of the vote. The turnout was more than 60%. How can this be done at all ??? And until we endure this party of power?

[Fitter65]

Quote: Mixweb

But a miracle happened. Being the worst governor of all time with an aggravating circumstance in the form of a candidate from edRo, he scored more than 80 percent of the vote. The turnout was more than 60%. How can this be done at all ??

And in our Khabarovsk Territory they tried to do this last year, but the former governor didn’t draw it from V. Shport. S.I. The wagon passed it with a crushing score.

[Saul_Rhen]

The Communists again conducted a survey among their own and are indignant.

[askort154]

Medvedev heads United Russia.

What is pop, such is parish (37%).

[Svarog]

Quote: askort154

Medvedev heads United Russia.

What is pop, such is parish (37%).

Suspiciously big arrival ..

[Yegorchik]

Mass fraud. Eating Russia made the evolutionary path of development impossible, turning the election into a fiction, meaning only the other path remained.

[Same lech]

meaning there was only another way left.

On the other way, Zolotarev and the Russian Guard in an armored train are ready for revolutionaries ...
one careless word and you are soldered for five years ...
an attempt by force to do something can and special forces to throw into battle.
So forget about the riot.

[Boris55]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

So forget about the riot.

Why exactly the riot? There are other ways of changing the social system without bloodletting and lowering the country into the Stone Age. I already wrote about them.

[Alex66]

In the additional elections of a State Duma deputy for the Serov single-mandate constituency No. 174, the turnout was 19,35%. In 2016, the turnout at that time was 31%.
In the by-elections of the deputy of the Legislative Assembly in the Ordzhonikidze single-mandate constituency No. 11, the turnout was 8,79%. In 2016, at the reporting time, it was 23,7%.
But the turnout collapsed twice, and as Dima does not inflate the EP rating, the people no longer want to vote for anyone, not for the clown from the Liberal Democratic Party, not for the communist communist Zyuganov, or for the American puppets Yablak ...

[Igor Dvornikov]

It seems everyone is against! And they vote "FOR". - Hypocrites.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

I personally did not doubt the "victory" of the United Russia, because the most active opponents of this political group spend days on the Internet and wage a political struggle among themselves - as if not against individuals from the United Russia, but against each other, although all opponents of the United Russia. The bulk of the electorate makes a living for days on end. Medvedev is right (to my personal regret) that the EP is the LEADING party today. There are no competitors !!!! In spite of his liberalism, he speaks in words from the slogans of the CPSU, so that soon we will hear about the honor and conscience of our era !!! The degradation of the communist party nomenklatura led to the collapse of the USSR, the degradation of today's elite could lead to the further collapse of Russia. Yes, and the "kids" from the EP are already growing up and are looking at the "daddy's" warm places at the cake of power. Moreover, the "dads" are getting old ... And not all these "kids" are united in ONE !!! Russia has never historically been a stable state. So we will wait for the first "call for changes" after 24 years, and maybe after the 30th. In the meantime, some go to the computer in the office, some to the tractor in the field)))) Rulers come and go, we continue to LIVE.

[Same lech]

I personally did not doubt the "victory" of the EP

It was so obvious ... because the alignment of political forces in favor of EP now.
An organized political force opposing United Russia does not exist in Russia now ... Bulk with his own liberals does not count.

[whack]

Well, yes, just a generation of Putin's under 24 years old will survive by the age of 24. It will be fun)))

[edeligor]

Again, what technology was invented and implemented? Well I live in this country - what Edro ?! There are no words !!!

[GUSAR]

And what kind of turnout, in Moscow and St. Petersburg, as I understand it, it is a failure, and by the way, the data about the turnout does not really publish

[Tochilka]

there is no turnout threshold right now. but in the polling station where I was, more than 1600 voters were recorded, and about 320 came.

[Boris55]

Medvedev called United Russia’s leading political force

There is little left to fix it in the 6th Art. The Constitution of the Russian Federation, as in the Brezhnev Constitution of 77, replacing only the CPSU with the United Russia, the USSR with the Russian Federation, the Soviet Union with the Russian Federation. The only question is what to do with "Soviet society", what to replace it with?

"... The leading and guiding force of Soviet society, the core of its political system, state and public organizations is the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The CPSU exists for the people and serves the people.

Armed with Marxist-Leninist teachings, the Communist Party determines the general outlook for the development of society, the line of internal and foreign policy of the USSR, directs the great creative activity of the Soviet people, and gives a systematic, scientifically substantiated character to its struggle for the victory of communism.

All party organizations operate within the framework of the Constitution of the USSR ... ".

A particularly remarkable last paragraph:
Point one - the commander is always right.
Point two - if not right, read point one.

[Adimius38]

no one goes to these elections with such a turnout threshold, this is pure quackery and not elections. And we already know how to choose United Russia after 2011

[Saul_Rhen]

But what, EP binds everyone else to beds so that they don’t come? Or all those who didn’t come as one would vote for the Communist Party, or who do you want there?

[demotivator]

For this "leading political force" all the candidates for the Moscow City Duma, members of the United Russia Party, ran not from the party, but as self-nominated candidates. Not fools, they understand what shit they got themselves into, so they chose not to advertise their membership in the United Russia.

[Svarog]

Quote: demotivator

For this "leading political force" all the candidates for the Moscow City Duma, members of the United Russia Party, ran not from the party, but as self-nominated candidates

In fact, this fact is indicative, not Medvedev's tale about a leading political force ..

[Trotil42]

Quote: Vladimir16

Most made their choice yesterday. And this is the choice of EP. It’s good, it’s bad everyone chooses it.

Dear ... a very talented nucleus-bearer ... apparently, as they say, you’re not catching up ... it’s just vosheee .... there was NO CHOICE ,,, ill about the elections

[BAI]

In most regions, EP beat. Now it’s possible not only to raise the retirement age, but to cancel pensions altogether. I don’t understand who could vote for them?

[whack]

And it all started with the collapse of the Union. Wanted jeans and Coca-Cola ??? Would you like freedom? Now eat this your freedom and democracy with a full spoon. You have not lost the country. You have lost order in this country. And the color of the flag and money is not important. The order is either there or otherwise. Now this carcinoma has grown to an incredible size, and you are complaining about a bad life. Anyone who lives poorly, he finds a way out of this situation. If you can’t, your problems. In short, snickering, gentlemen, citizens. You are again in '95. Or 37

[YasenPen]

Medvedev called United Russia’s leading political force

I congratulate everyone ...

[rocket757]

The guard is tired .... tfu, the people are tired and do not want anything, no hope for anything, except our simple AVOS!
All the rumors / fortune-tellers in the internet, social networks and many more where else, this is a Wishlist of some, as it turned out, insignificant part of our society!
"The guard is tired" and does not want to disperse / change anyone !!! which is very strange, in the light of the latest and future "gifts" that we all will definitely be presented by those who did not want to disperse / change!

[CommanderDIVA]

Who would doubt that

[Antares]

strange things. All against, but all for
Is it really difficult to understand that one must go to the polls, vote if not for something against.
Yes, the venue has been cleaned to a brilliance. But without coming to the polls, the majority will doom itself to the minority. Plus adminresurs.
No need to fear fraud. They are inevitable. Like the vote count.
You just need to come to vote for anyone, but not for EP.
There are examples (maybe unsuccessful but there are)
The main mistake was that they didn’t come to the polls (they already agreed with the results), the second is that you think there is nobody.
Psychological - "not for anyone", dooms constancy.
Although "stability" is also attractive. Maybe I'm wrong, that everyone wants to change the EP ...
other moods inside the country.
But if not then, since this is a military review, then you can quote the minority and majority in the elections
"Not showing up for the battle, the results will be only for those who did."

[Okolotochny]

Ha ha The Ukrainian troll makes recommendations on the Russian elections! Well, whiny? Is it Ukrainian yet, will pull others up, will they also cry in a vest?

[sergo1914]

A strange feeling, but today I feel proud of the name "Medvedev". But the merit in this is not the chairman of the government, but the Russian tennis player, who fought in the US Open finals.

[tochila]

We are looking forward to the introduction of serfdom and the abolition of pensions !!!! Act, father dear !!!

[faterdom]

Medvedev called United Russia’s leading political force

But he is also modest, like no one else in this world !!!
EP is also UMM! HONORARY !! and CONSCIENCE !!!
Our era, all past, from the late Paleolithic, and, of course, all future generations!
And he said nothing about all this!

[akunin]

Medvedev called United Russia’s leading political force

, but you can’t say better and truthful (

what a lump! what a seasoned human being!

...)push - to death

[akribos]

Gentlemen, participate in the election process from within. Work in commissions. Then many will stop writing nonsense. Although they will probably stop voting, they will begin to pack their bags in warm, sunny places.

[fif21]

Raising the retirement age, anti-smoking law infringing on the rights of hundreds of thousands of people, introducing new taxes, impoverishing the population, nepotism and corruption ....... this is an incomplete list of the merits of today's authorities. And what about the asset, Crimea, avoiding the dollar, import substitution. Can someone complement?

[faridg7]

Quote: fif21

And what about the asset, Crimea, avoiding the dollar, import substitution. Can someone complement?

I can only cut the bream.
Well, Crimea is an asset,
import substitution? Well, Chinese hardware and assemblies with clumsy labels translated into Russian somehow do not fit into an asset
avoiding the dollar? Well, they changed the dollar to Chinese yuan, just as the money was not in their economy, they remained. what is the asset?

[Karabas]

Citizens supported our candidates, as well as those candidates whom our party helped, for whom they supported.

Here it is! The people in a united, united outburst vote for EP!

[Blue fox]

It seems to me that Dmitry Medvedev is hinting to us that when the entire population of Russia joins the EP, then we will live as it should!
How fashionable it is now to speak among our premier - life hack!

[Nestorych]

That's what it means to steer without regaining consciousness.)))

[72jora72]

Recall that previously the sociological monitoring services provided data on the rating of "United Russia" at a level not higher than 37-38%.

Painfully overestimated the results.

[Honest Citizen]

Medvedev, in fact, did not even lie. With that low turnout, plus an administrative resource (army, Rosgvarlia, police, etc.), which must come and vote correctly, Dmitry is right.
Where is he wrong? Yes, that remember the last elections of Putin. Was there anyone to choose from? The only one who posed a theoretical threat was "washed away" by streams of compromising evidence, scandals and so on.
How are those choices different from these? EdRo against freaks - there is no one to choose from. But the graphs are against everyone - no.
Bulk boxes will not pass, even if EdRo will give China a hectare every day. They will be swept away, but Navalny will not be chosen.
There is no real opposition, no ideology, no program. But no - there is EdRo, and grumble in the kitchens.

[faridg7]

Yes, nothing is simpler - first, through municipal filters, weed out candidates from other parties, then refine the lists at the stage of consideration of applications in the electoral commission, In the course of preparation for the elections, convince the electorate that supports unwanted candidates either do not come to the polls at all, or come and ruin the ballot. And voila, of those who came to the polls and did not spoil the ballot, 80% support the right candidate. Sit on your ass straight and further, we will continue to eat Russia

[Trotil42]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: edasko

You are only one coming to their elections, confirm the legitimacy of their power.

And you ignoring your own suffrage cast doubt on it?

Quote: edasko

No one cares what you scribble in your newsletter there.

So do not clumsy, but make your ballot invalid, by the way options "against all" also have a place to be!

Quote: edasko

Basically. 20% guys can always add to their candidate.

At a turnout close to 100%, these twenty will have to be printed, and this is a prison!

Sorry, but spare bulletins are being printed ... they have a select of them ..

[capsid]

And I always knew that PU is not a real president, Me is a real president.

[Incvizitor]

I do not like EP, I never voted for it, but now there simply is no other sane alternative

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Elections to the Moscow City Duma in 2014: EdRo - 28 + 10, Communist Party - 5, LDPR - 1, Homeland - 1.
Elections to the Moscow City Duma in 2019: EdRo - 25, KPRF - 13, Yabloko - 3 + 1, SR - 3.
What EdRo received through the horns is visible to the naked eye.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: edasko

You are only one coming to their elections, confirm the legitimacy of their power.

And you ignoring your own suffrage cast doubt on it?

Quote: edasko

No one cares what you scribble in your newsletter there.

So do not clumsy, but make your ballot invalid, by the way options "against all" also have a place to be!

Quote: edasko

Basically. 20% guys can always add to their candidate.

At a turnout close to 100%, these twenty will have to be printed, and this is a prison!

"Against all" was canceled long ago, it seems. The year is 2006, isn't it?

[Kontrik]

Dimon would rather be silent and not make the people angry ... In many regions, elections of governors were held and all EP henchmen passed with a standard score of more than 50%, the Communist Party is half as much (everything is standard) I even laughed ..
The people questioned slowly, all for the Communist Party and for our local (though with sad eyes, they understand that it is useless) ...
As Chernomyrdin (the deceased) blurted out a long time ago .. "What party in Russia do not create, it still turns out the Communist Party ..))))))))))
The main thing of the liberals, the ferment of the 90s will not be allowed into power .. Again they will flood Russia with blood, already completely!

[APASUS]

After the pension reform, believe Medvedev .........................

[Romanenko]

Well, at least someone like this bunch of toes