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Besogon reflects on protests in Moscow and indifference of officials

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The first issue after the summer break of Nikita Mikhalkov’s Besogon program raises a topic that the so-called “free media” has identified as one of the main ones in recent months. This is a protest in Moscow. Those protests that people and the Western media were openly pushing for, including the Deutsche Welle, which Russian parliamentarians are now trying to hold accountable for interfering in Russia's internal affairs.


Besogon reflects on protests in Moscow and indifference of officials


Nikita Mikhalkov notes that many participants in unauthorized rallies in central Moscow had nothing to do with Moscow itself. People in an interview on the streets of the capital called the places from which they arrived to participate in the campaigns: these are the Stavropol Territory, the regions of the north-west of Russia, there were many Ukrainian citizens. At the same time, not everyone could clearly explain what they were protesting against in general in Moscow.

The guest from Ukraine said that he would like to see the same power in Russia as the one that is sitting in Kiev today.

Mikhalkov discusses one of the activists' slogans: “It turned out in Ukraine, it will work in Russia as well.” Question from the author of Besogon: And what happened in Ukraine? To plunge the country into chaos, transfer it to external control, bring the state debt to record, unleash a civil war, divide citizens with artificial barriers - this is the result of what happened in the neighboring state.

Also, Nikita Mikhalkov in his program raises the important issue of indifference of officials to the problems of people in our country. Often it is precisely this indifference that pushes people to protest.

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  1. Rostislav Bely
    Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 15: 19 New
    +1
    It is difficult to accuse him of hypocrisy - it makes you think ...
    At the age of 27 years he voluntarily went to military service, in 1972-1973 he passed it in Kamchatka in the Navy, on the cruiser Pacific Fleet "Mikhail Kutuzov". According to colleagues, he participated in amateur performances, regularly gave concerts, collecting full halls.
    1. wandlitz
      wandlitz 8 September 2019 15: 25 New
      +6
      "According to colleagues, he participated in amateur performances, regularly gave concerts, collecting full halls."
      Uh, for sure. One of his colleagues is my colleague. Showed a photo.
      1. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 17: 00 New
        0
        And something told - not that below the Jewish comrade about midshipman Karelin from the category of rumors / whores? I don’t really trust in the "pieces" service ... I understand that I did not serve the full urgent and they convinced him to return home - everyone is calmer)))
        1. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 8 September 2019 17: 36 New
          +1
          The navy does not have a piece, but a chest
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 17: 51 New
            +1
            and also the boatswain is called a skin (this has long been on civilian ships) - I am land)))
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 8 September 2019 18: 35 New
              0
              Quote: Rostislav White
              I am land)))

              Therefore, do not grind the tongue.
              1. Rostislav Bely
                Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 18: 51 New
                +1
                Meli Emelya, your week - hoped to go the Jewish tankers, Happy Tanker Day to the tanker))))
                if you were careful then there is a comment
                but a "piece / chest" would answer easier
      2. Alber
        Alber 8 September 2019 22: 15 New
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        Quote: Rostislav White
        At the age of 27, he voluntarily went to military service, in


        He pulled the rubber up to 27 years, and after it in 27 kicks in the ass drove to repay the debt to the motherland
        Quote: Rostislav White
        participated in amateur performances, regularly performed concerts, collecting full halls.


        Keywords: "regularly performed with concerts ..."
        Not a service, but a raspberry ... In general, Lizun, like his famous relative
    2. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 8 September 2019 15: 25 New
      +8
      How Mikhalkov served in the Navy (https://pyhalov.livejournal.com/35663.html)

      By the way, our media sometimes emphasize the fact that Nikita Mikhalkov did not evade military service at the time and even served in the Navy, and not just anywhere, but in Kamchatka, in the Pacific Fleet! But it so happened that he carried out that very “marine service” on the shore, in Petropavlovsk-on-Kamchatka, as part of a semi-crew (military unit 20592). This name was given to the unit where the recruits took the course of the young soldier, and on the shore - because there was a drill parade ground, and a shooting range, and a tactical field where the course of the young soldier was practiced before taking the oath. This service was held by Nikita Mikhalkov under the supervision of my cousin, midshipman Karelin Georgy Petrovich. And not only the month that was necessary under the program, but also the entire term of the "maritime" service that he had.

      About how she, this service at Nikita was held there, brother George told me in detail. It began with the fact that the big naval commander, who brought Nikita to that same “semi-crew”, said something like this: “This is Nikita Mikhalkov. Put him in a separate kubrick and create conditions so that he would not be prevented from working on scripts and movie roles. ” Of course, about any outfits, for example, to the galley (kitchen), where all the young sailors were obligatorily appointed in turn (and sometimes, for misconduct - and out of turn), there was no question. Samovolok did not happen on his part either, since at any desire of this “especially outstanding sailor”, he was provided with a dismissal note for any term. Of course, they created the conditions, for it was checked by individual commanders and entire commissions to check how the “service” was held by sailor Mikhalkov.

      At the end of the young fighter’s course and after taking the Oath (this is usually a month and a half), the sailors were painted on the ships. Nikita wanted to be sent to the submarine, as he planned to “get used” to the role that he was supposed to play in some film. But when he found out that it was necessary to issue special permits there, and then for 5 years he would be "restricted to travel abroad", he refused. And his service took place in various “campaigns” either to the Kuril Islands or to Magadan as part of his film groups, so that he practically did not leave his acting profession for a single day. He “served” that way for less than a year, although at that time the fixed-term service in the Navy was 3 years. But an order was received to arrange a vacation for sailor Mikhalkov with a trip to Moscow. Midshipman Karelin then said to himself and others: “Well, this is to meet!” And he was right: Nikita Mikhalkov returned to his own half-crew, as well as to the fleet in general
      1. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 16: 04 New
        -3
        There, about the woman he infected with gonorrhea ...
        Especially touches Michman Karelin when he said to himself and others: "Well, this is to meet!" And he was right: Nikita Mikhalkov returned to his own half-crew, as well as to the fleet in general ... I understand how the dees are cooking up, is your midshipman not a relative of Pyotr Grigoryevich? or an impostor-deacon of All Russia, someone Kuraev also complains that his dad was sent to Romania instead of the “jacket” service ...
        It’s like in a joke when Stanislavsky and Nemirovich argued who would shout louder “I don’t believe!”, And were so carried away that they forgot what they were arguing about.
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 8 September 2019 16: 10 New
          -1
          I gave the link. Claims to Mr. Pykhalov
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 16: 14 New
            +1
            And what does the claim to Mr. Pykhalov, as I understand it, did not serve in the army on this conclusion ...
            Turn on the logic - did not serve for three years, of course - so what?
            1. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 8 September 2019 16: 21 New
              +1
              I gave an information link to Mikhalkov’s service. I don’t understand what you need from me. Your text is generally a stream of consciousness.
              1. Rostislav Bely
                Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 16: 30 New
                +1
                This is gossip, so I am filtering the information - it’s correct that I didn’t serve for a full time, but a “piece / chest” would have answered easier (in terms of stopping frequent inspections of superiors (I don’t think that the soldiers were brought to dystrophy then much later in Russian (KDVO)
      2. ananias mudishev
        ananias mudishev 8 September 2019 17: 49 New
        +3
        My nephew Fyodor Cherenkov served with me, all the same and home every weekend. He only served 2 months and transferred him to a sports company somewhere in Moscow, although he had nothing to do with sports
      3. naidas
        naidas 8 September 2019 18: 12 New
        0
        Our athletes served while in the company, like everyone else, but training camps and competitions were out there somewhere in civilian life.
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 8 September 2019 16: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: Rostislav White
      It is difficult to accuse him of hypocrisy - it makes you think ...

      What served, is not an indicator yet, the Mikhalkovs are skillful opportunists, and you have to admit that they are quite talented, with any system, they are next to the authorities, does this fact bother you? If communism would exist now, Mikhalkov would also denounce the democrats. Demonstrative interview with Dud, Dud made him nervous ..
      1. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 16: 11 New
        +2
        Dud, in general, no one to make Mikhalkov nervous, it’s like at a college with a candlestick - the main gossip, Mikhalkov studied it as a trend in the subculture of “helpless” ... But essentially they don’t like Muscovites in the army
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 September 2019 16: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Rostislav White
          Dud, in general, no one to make Mikhalkov nervous, it’s like at a college with a candlestick - the main gossip, Mikhalkov studied it as a trend in the subculture of “helpless” ... But essentially they don’t like Muscovites in the army

          Who, nobody is a rhetorical question, let Dud and nobody, but 10 ml. young people who watch it do not think so .. To me they are both not interesting and understandable. They have a lot in common, it’s just that Mikhalkov hides it, but Dud’s not. And Dudya, unlike Mikhalkov, has the courage to raise problems that Mikhalkov will not tell about, because of his understatement ... That would not be a toad, would be really interesting.
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 16: 23 New
            +2
            10 million. What else are they doing (here the ellipsis) - and so what? If this is not interesting for you, then you did not draw such deep conclusions ...
            Dud - 2008 graduated from the faculty of journalism at Moscow State University and only
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 9 September 2019 00: 16 New
          -2
          But essentially they do not like Muscovites in the army


          By what substance?
          Or which creature does not like?
          The whole question is when did you serve and where.
          I am from 1966 to 69 years. And relations with everyone were normal, with the exception of a number of officers who did not tolerate Muscovites for their knowledge and “linguisticity”, and indeed for the fact that they live in Moscow, and gentlemen the officers have been wandering their whole garrison garrison without any future prospects. But a Muscovite, a bastard, will rattle his three years back to the capital for a well-fed life. request
          The guys who served in the seventies were much more difficult, they did not like Muscovites because their city was supplied according to the first category, and the rest lived, if not starving, then around this (according to their ideas). Everyone knows about the "sausage" trains coming from Moscow. As if Muscovites were to blame for this, but they are easier to blame than the existing government in the country.
          Stupidity, stupidity and envy - these are all the driving factors of the so-called dislike for Muscovites.
          And now in Moscow there are no Muscovites left either, the latter were evicted from the MKAD back in the nineties, and the city was beaten with a limit by the end of the seventies. So now it’s not worth looking at the registration in the passport, just ask where the dad and mom came from in Moscow.
          That's it, Mr. Bely. Do not repeat other people's nonsense. Well, if you yourself think so, then talking to you seriously is useless. hi
          1. Rostislav Bely
            Rostislav Bely 9 September 2019 00: 49 New
            +2
            About Muscovites?

            I didn’t appoint you as “beloved wife”, so that you call me “master”)))
            1. Rostislav Bely
              Rostislav Bely 9 September 2019 01: 07 New
              +1

              comrades - this is not about customs, such as looking for goods ...
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 9 September 2019 04: 13 New
                -1
                Alas, the video is not available.
                1. Rostislav Bely
                  Rostislav Bely 9 September 2019 10: 41 New
                  +1
                  click watch on YouTube, a new window will open
            2. Catfish
              Catfish 9 September 2019 04: 13 New
              -1
              And is that all you have to say? However, you also have a rich vocabulary. )))

              By the way, Schwonder-Kartsev-And how it really is, a stunned Muscovite. And the example itself is based on the principle "in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev the uncle."
              Do not want to be a master, a matter of taste, you can walk in the slaves. And as for your “beloved wife”, I was not interested in you and your sexual deviations do not bother me, appoint anyone you want, of any gender. hi
              1. Rostislav Bely
                Rostislav Bely 9 September 2019 10: 54 New
                +2
                you aren’t so hot with humor ... about real Muscovites, I worked with a woman by the name of Kuleshov (a native Muscovite) - not one of our relatives asked with the same last name (officer), to which she answered me with this last name (professional) in Zamoskvorechye district lived, I don’t remember which streets - it is unlikely that relatives ...
                Want to look at a real Muscovite - Velyaminov (the oldest boyar clan)

                I myself am from the bourgeoisie and emperor, I should not call the same thing as a varish)))
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 9 September 2019 13: 36 New
                  0
                  And I do not pretend to be a comedian, not my profile. What you have connected Velyaminov to here is completely incomprehensible, in order to be a native of a city it is not necessary to have ancestors of "boyar blood". And he is a great actor, no questions.
                  Rostislav, I didn’t call you "sir", and all the more so as a "comrade".
                  I hope that you still didn’t cram the cons. This is nonsense, of course, and does not make the weather, but still I do not want to think about a person worse than he is. hi
                  1. Rostislav Bely
                    Rostislav Bely 9 September 2019 14: 41 New
                    +1
                    I try not to put minuses except for hoops or outright trolling with desami ... mind you, sometimes I leave hints to sir, that-varish (P. Ya. Chernykh produces this word from other Russian goods, comrade - camp, military camp ) then the Varangian)))
                    Kuleshovs are also petty bourgeois (bakers - from the word kulich), and I specially showed you Velyaminov not because of the boyar’s blood, this is a breed (land (base), not a cattle, that’s from dirt to riches) ...
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 9 September 2019 15: 44 New
                      0
                      I don’t know about the breed (ground-base), I’m not familiar with Velyaminov, I haven’t heard his statements, I can’t judge him. So here everything is written with a pitchfork on the water.
                      But the interpretation of the word "comrade" I frankly liked, but I'm not sure that it is so. I won’t argue, I’m not strong on this issue, and to no avail.
                      It is somewhat incomprehensible in relation to the same Velyaminov "and not a cattle, that from rags to riches", that you had in mind. In our country, with the last two regimes of this public, “from rags to riches” there has always been enough in excess.
                      1. Rostislav Bely
                        Rostislav Bely 9 September 2019 19: 21 New
                        +1
                        from rags to riches - it’s like with a pig’s snout and in Kalash’s row (to the bakers), on the Central Russian plain a community from different peoples has long been formed (the basis of R1a and N1c are Slavs and Balts with Finno-Ugric peoples), and accordingly the device is not tribal in nature ( hostel), in which they lived in the same Europe - our ancestors had veche device in cities (each family has its own dugout - archeology) long before Magdeburg law, etc.
                        Many things are not clear about the Varangian comrades, the Norman theory is clearly untenable - basically their descendants have the Baltic haplogroup N1c (L550), and in their letters Grozny called the Swedes the vassals of his ancestor Yaroslav the Wise, and Rurik came from the Prussians according to his ancestry. In my opinion, Oleg Veshchiy (Olsi) is not Helga, but from the hydronym Volga (Baltic. Il-ha a long way), like Ladoga, in the present. lang road, tramp. The Varangians and Russia are associated with trade in river beds - primarily salt (Druska - salt in lit.) and there was salt trade in Staraya Russ (evaporation from min sources) - it may come from here that the custom of the Russian meet with bread and salt, while slash-and-burn agriculture yielded greater productivity than black soil in Kiev (and this is a by-product in metallurgy, charcoal production as gardening in the Urals under the Demidovs among workers) ...
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 September 2019 22: 21 New
                        0
                        from rags to riches - it’s like with a pig’s snout and in a kalash line (to bakers)

                        Yes, this is all clear and known for a long time. I didn’t ask about the meaning of this expression, but about what you had in mind in relation to Velyaminov and the current situation in the country.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 8 September 2019 15: 24 New
    +4
    When talking about freedom, the first question to ask is "about freedom from what." In most cases, this can be done.
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 8 September 2019 15: 31 New
      -4
      For some, freedom is a conscious need
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 8 September 2019 15: 57 New
        +1
        To some, the mare is the bride.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 September 2019 16: 46 New
        -2
        freedom is a conscious need
        Only for Spinoza. Ponder freedom and necessity. These are different concepts.
    2. Shuttle
      Shuttle 8 September 2019 16: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Dart2027
      When talking about freedom, the first question to ask is "about freedom from what." In most cases, this can be done.

      Actually, I would ask "about the freedom of whom and from what." And also for what.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 8 September 2019 16: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Shuttle
        about the freedom of whom and from what

        This is about the same.
        Quote: Shuttle
        And also for what

        And this is the second question - well, is someone freed from something, and what's next?
  • Amateur
    Amateur 8 September 2019 15: 31 New
    +1
    * - “self-confident, a little mocking and somehow funny gall”

    Do you think this is Nikita Sergeevich?
    "Native American National Hut." This is N.P. Kirsanov from Turgenev’s Fathers and Sons.
    And the same hollow.
    1. Rwmos
      Rwmos 8 September 2019 15: 38 New
      +3
      In-in, he is a demon, not a demon. About the "indifference of the authorities" lies the one whom the people call "miGalkov" - I wonder why? And another nickname - "last master". That is what serfdom in the estate got itself.
      Tfu, hollow
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 8 September 2019 15: 43 New
        -5
        Come on, get distracted, Spartak Champion with any president-thief in the club, and throughout the country its clubs and presidents. wink
        1. Rwmos
          Rwmos 8 September 2019 16: 04 New
          -2
          Tell thief about the thief twice for the theft on an especially large scale to Giner and Miller that the second one had already stolen from the city, and this time they built for the money orphanages. And the Otkrytie stadium was built without budget money, it was used at the World Cup. For comparison - the stadiums in Italy World Cup-90. Do you need to continue?
          On the topic - MiGalkov - a true snickering master-idol, also climb to teach, demon. And you can’t defend it, so we will protect for Spartak ... I wish you success in this hard and thankless job.
          1. Rusland
            Rusland 8 September 2019 16: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: RWMos
            For comparison, the stadiums in Italy are the World Cup-90. Do you need to continue?

            Continue the crap, there are many countries in the world, but what have you done besides the Spartacus tattoo and carry the positive in yourself? Whining and revelation or huskies work out?
      2. A good one
        A good one 8 September 2019 16: 10 New
        -1
        I look, my joy, you are from the "old", I had three fans from your supposed club, two meters with a cap, and one as a crossbar above them under the call sign "two meters of dry shingles." Are they fans?wink So behave modestly. smile
        1. Rwmos
          Rwmos 8 September 2019 16: 53 New
          -4
          Stop lecturing - then we'll talk for modesty. But for now - "do not tell me what to do, but I will not tell you where to go"
          1. A good one
            A good one 8 September 2019 17: 05 New
            0
            Well, let's not be nervous, my joy, wink What sent me veiled to you minus, wimp, young still talk talk. wink
            1. Rwmos
              Rwmos 8 September 2019 17: 25 New
              -7
              No, Spartak is simply the best people in the country, and, as it is noticeable, everything in other parts is wiping away ... Judging by the offer in speeches, the edges are blue-swamp ... However, the horse trainer was also a regular visitor to gay clubs, not for nothing they bought their name "blue pool"
              1. A good one
                A good one 8 September 2019 17: 36 New
                +1
                My friend, I completely agree with you that the fans in our country are not the last vanguard of our society, but in Ukraine they were one of the first on the Maidan, they used them, it can happen here too, so if you from the fan club, I wish you thoughtful action in this direction. hi
      3. Hypatius
        Hypatius 8 September 2019 21: 07 New
        0
        ... people call "miGalkov" - I wonder why?
        Now you can’t find it on the Internet, but in the 90s I read in the newspaper that Mikhalkov found noble roots, joined the collection of nobles and became Mikhalkov. But something, did not flout in Russia, the revival of the nobility. In general, an actor, that is, a lyceum, cannot be a decent person, that is, with a face. Such a magic of words.
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 8 September 2019 15: 32 New
    +7
    In the mid-eighties, Caspar Weinberger (US Secretary of Defense) said that Russians could be defeated by imposing Western world values ​​on them, turning Soviet citizens from patriots into consumers.

    Now comes the next round of destruction of our identity.
    And he is quite successful for the USA ...
    Need to fight!
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 8 September 2019 15: 35 New
      0
      This phrase is still attributed to Bismarck.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 8 September 2019 16: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Valery Valery
      that Russians can be defeated by imposing on them the values ​​of the Western world, turning Soviet citizens from patriots into consumers.

      Indeed, they have successfully won.
    3. tracer
      tracer 8 September 2019 16: 53 New
      -4
      Correctly. Give your car to the state farm.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 8 September 2019 17: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: tracer
        Give your car to the state farm.

        The state farm is a state enterprise, they did not give anything there.
  • Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 8 September 2019 16: 31 New
    0
    Demons visited Nikita again ?!
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 8 September 2019 20: 46 New
      -5
      They visited your idol Goblin a long time ago.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 8 September 2019 16: 33 New
    +3
    Yes ... that's right ... civil servants ... "sovereign servants" (!) Have become one of the main enemies of Russian statehood! All this was a consequence of the depravity of the current state administration system in Russia! The depravity of this system originated in the days of the USSR and especially began to manifest itself with the seizure of state power by "liberalism." Back in the days of the USSR, the bureaucratization of state structures, economic structures reached such an extent that it became numerically, economically, politically stronger bureaucracy closely within the existing socio-political, economic system ... Officialism, which in other countries was considered a social "layer" between " classes ", it was in our country that began to feel like a" class "! And as a "class" he became cramped in the framework of the socialist system of the USSR ... So the "coup" came out! And the "ended" Union! There was no “democratic" revolution! There was a "class" bureaucratic coup! To the established list of class forms of government (feudal, bourgeois (capitalist), socialist ...) was added a "bureaucratic" system ... Each form of government has 3 stages: early, middle (mature), late ... It is in the middle stage that the ruling the formation begins to "greyhound", beginning to believe that the state, the country is wholly owned by it. But it does not take into account that the very nature of the bureaucratic form of government is fraught with the viciousness of its existence, accelerated by the self-destructive form of this ... The Russian bureaucratic form of government goes into the degree of "development" that can be called the "syndrome" of Taras Bulba ... ("I’m you spawned, I’ll kill you! "...) In general, the bureaucratic form of government, trying to" once "create" its own "statehood, begins to destroy itself ... As for Putin, he is not a" leader ". .. "Looking back" over the years of Putin’s "rule", we can say that he performed (and fulfills ...) the role of the "Queen of England" in the Russian bureaucratic "monarchy" ...
    1. Leopold
      Leopold 8 September 2019 17: 48 New
      +3
      Nikolaitch, I am also a sovereign servant, but not corrupt. I am not a necessary employee for corrupt officials. Yes, and it’s good that way.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 9 September 2019 03: 06 New
        +1
        Hello, Sergey! hi I didn’t mean all the “particulars and nuances”! I mentioned the phenomenon, which nevertheless begins to more and more "annoy" Russia and really threaten it! Only one statement: "about macaroni," "the state should not and did not force you ...", "" ... and many others - caused (and cause) great irritation in society (people) ... And the main "nuance "is that the stupidity of" individual "officials is increasingly associated in society (the people) with the government in general (!)," ending "with Putin ... Putin is the" English queen "in the Russian bureaucratic" monarchy "... on the inside he has little influence on the life of Russia ... But we should not forget that the growing discontent of the people can, in the end, lead to a "revolution" ... and, well the fact is known that "the people make a revolution; but the scoundrels and scammers use the results!"
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    1. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 16: 51 New
      +3
      Especially touches your conclusion that you are a simple peasant - I would add “a simple Jewish peasant” only for the role-seal ... it was even cooler with a terrible “ram” for an advantage)))
    2. A good one
      A good one 8 September 2019 17: 43 New
      +5
      Seryoga, do not get excited. smile
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 8 September 2019 17: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      And now I will tell the truth. I do not like Mikhalkov - is he like someone who is rightfully born there? And I am a simple peasant, and if this Mikhalkov still says something, I will kill in FIG. Little did we kill the nobles?

      There is such an anecdote:
      -advertising at the station: - To a citizen who has found a red folder with the State Emblem ... we recommend that you shoot yourself!
      fool Do you, Sergey Averchenkov, want a ban for such "peasant" appeals? Remove better yourself.
      1. A good one
        A good one 8 September 2019 18: 08 New
        +5
        Greetings buddy hi Something apparently caught up with the harvest. smile
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 9 September 2019 10: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: Not bad
          Greetings buddy hi Something apparently caught up with the harvest. smile

          Hello Viktrych hi
          Well, as usual, the guy came from an internal business trip (overslept) and looked at the world with different eyes belay It happens smile
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 September 2019 17: 23 New
    -1
    "Well done," Mr. Bely famously turned the topic off, everyone is discussing Mikhalkov, not the topic of the article.
    1. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 17: 43 New
      +1
      Well done among the sheep - what are you talking about? .. that I tend to trust Mikhalkov, because it makes me think, although I disagree with him in some way ... I subscribed to it on YouTube and saw this story before the article. This is a kind of test for working with information (hobby for sheep-laundering - when they switch to personalities without considering the essence) and do not call me lord - gentlemen in Paris and New York are "street cleaners")))
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 September 2019 17: 57 New
        -2
        that I tend to trust Mikhalkov,
        you have the right. he speaks all the more. But this is not about trust, but about what Mr. Mikhalkov said about protests about officials, this is not at all in the discussion.
        1. Rostislav Bely
          Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 18: 10 New
          +2
          Take it deeper - mentality ... For example, I agree with Pyzhikov regarding breaking up the Russian consciousness with the arrival of the Romanovs (we were originally of different "nationalities" with veche traditions, unlike the West), but I am skeptical of the Old Believers / Old Believers with their "Protestant tradition "- then the trend began to take root in the consciousness of the inferiority of the Russians - they began to manipulate us, for example, before that, Constantinople and the Horde of Genoese traders ...
  • Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra 8 September 2019 18: 23 New
    +4
    It is interesting, could the intelligentsia as a whole analyze its role in society over the past decades (from Khrushchev to today)? In the 90s, her physical inversion occurred - from a cultural guardian she turned into a bodybuilder (from Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Gaidar, rushing after a hill for money, Uchtiel, Raikin, Vinokur, .. the list is impressive in scale). No one ever repented of this. Besogon is needed, a real one, not full-blooded, but with a sickle and a hammer.
    1. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 18: 36 New
      +1
      This is a foam, not an intelligentsia - Nikita Besogon is an “apocrypha”, in the Russian tradition it is compared with Nikita Kozhemyaka (Usmar is a fighter)
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 8 September 2019 18: 30 New
    +2
    In Mikhalkov, there are undoubted merits in the cinema (for some reason, many roles are villains). His work in documentary is also not simple and raises many problems. Many present here (including me) cannot achieve such merits and do not see awards like ears without a mirror. BUT... stop
    Man must always remain and not beat the bound, not shoot (kill) unarmed. This episode simply upset me:

    I myself believe that the opinion and political views of a person whose role is hypocrisy should not be taken as a kind of dogma or teaching. He said - we listened (or did not).
    And I don’t like lordly manners in people. Dad made their fate with his brother, and in the USSR there were artists and more talented.
    Not my idol. I don’t listen to what he says in this Besogon. I just do not wish.
    1. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 8 September 2019 18: 42 New
      -3
      I agree. He began the program by praising the prostitute colleague in the workshop, Govorukhin. Who was especially good at the paintings "You can’t live like that," "Russia we lost." That these degenerates are on the square in Moscow, that Mikhalkov here, with a smart look, savor on the bones of the demented people - two sides of the same coin.
      Further, Mikhalkov’s here is 41:54 "seeking and interested", and here 9:45 - d * ren? For me, absolutely identical pictures. The answer to the question "seeker and interested" is easily searched on the Internet. Most likely, he will not understand much from what he reads there, but this is a matter of education, and not a problem of Sberbank's vice president. He does not hide state / private-corporate secrets behind the answer to this question. So, the vice-president of Sberbank answered quite succinctly, especially if you watch the video in full, and not take it out of context. He previously spoke about communication issues. If they were going to discuss some questions, why ask others ?!
      Mikhalkov corny "hype", posing as this 45 minute vomit, a la "Live", for an intellectual analysis of what is happening. A “worthy” occupation for such a respectable age.
      Where does this greyhound come from ?, Yes, it has grown on their films since the late 80s.
      1. Plantagenet
        Plantagenet 8 September 2019 19: 03 New
        +1
        “And the entire camp of our intelligentsia lives in deception, worse, in self-deception, Alexander Mikhailovich. We have very few firmly and precisely know what exactly they want ... Maybe Constantinople and the straits, or maybe a socialist republic? Or a socialist republic, but with Constantinople and with the straits? I repent, I do not put our intelligentsia very high. I can tell the truth about her: I myself am a Russian intellectual. ”

        Mark Aleksandrovich Aldanov "Key" edition of 1928
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 8 September 2019 20: 24 New
          +1
          "I am not an intellectual; I have a profession"
          L. Gumilev.
    2. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 8 September 2019 18: 46 New
      -2
      I don’t listen to what he says in this Besogon. I just do not wish.

      you are a victim - you have an opinion about the taste by ear - it’s sad that you think with cliches like "barin" - I’ll remind you of one character - Zemlyachka, take the trouble to look at the biography before marking the barins by "nobility", and then the film (if you have enough patience) Sunny hit...
    3. Alexander Ra
      Alexander Ra 8 September 2019 21: 17 New
      +1
      I had the patience to look at Besogon. Some fragments are true separately. But on the whole, an eyeliner to the idea - “stupid” people “complain” about life in the country, which are presented exclusively to the bulk players, Pussy-Rayot, etc. And, apparently - to all complaining people, we must remember that the repressions of the 37th may happen again.
  • Sasha ___
    Sasha ___ 8 September 2019 23: 34 New
    +1
    Divide and conquer, the principle that the Kremlin junta happily uses to hold onto power. Excuse me, but Nikita Mikhalkov, who lived in a house with a servant in the Soviet Union and who, in childhood, was exhausted by the fact that he was forced to untie the knots on the boxes with eclairs on his own, was a man fed with French rolls. The Kremlin junta at first shuts up the slightest opportunity for the expression of popular will, and then calls everyone who tries to defend their rights calls it come in large numbers. Isn't that called sharing? Mr. Mikhalkov is engaged in defamation, and the author is quietly helping him
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 9 September 2019 07: 11 New
    0
    “I am so sudden. I am so contradictory.” After discussing serfdom, I’m somehow not interested in listening to people like him.
  • stas-xnumx
    stas-xnumx 9 September 2019 16: 38 New
    0
    Much can be said about N.S. reason, but nonetheless, truth is truth ...
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 10 September 2019 01: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Rostislav White
    Especially touches your conclusion that you are a simple peasant - I would add “a simple Jewish peasant” only for the role-seal ... it was even cooler with a terrible “ram” for an advantage)))

    Well, I got excited, I'm a mining engineer - technology and technology for mineral exploration is my specialty. Do you and your spouse have gold rings? It is possible that I helped to find this deposit from which your rings are made. Well, and so ... my ancestors are indeed peasants from near Smolensk from the side of the father, from the mother's side the Siberian Cossacks - Potekhin.
    1. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 10 September 2019 02: 25 New
      +1
      I’m from the middle class, my cousin 25-ku in Kolyma - he gave the country gold (a construction engineer), the University of Kiev was behind (I’m skeptical of the nobility, although their mother has mixed up with the Georgian princes) ... Maybe therefore, the grandfather survived that engineer, with the mountain adjacent.
      And in Siberia - yes, they were kidding me, for example, before I went on a business trip to Novokuznetsk, I read the story there - it wasn’t red, but bandits like Rogov, and prof. Katasonov said that in the European part the Trotskyists were being planted, and in Siberia the Trotskyists - his grandfather was sitting, their conclusions ...
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 10 September 2019 01: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Terenin
    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
    And now I will tell the truth. I do not like Mikhalkov - is he like someone who is rightfully born there? And I am a simple peasant, and if this Mikhalkov still says something, I will kill in FIG. Little did we kill the nobles?

    There is such an anecdote:
    -advertising at the station: - To a citizen who has found a red folder with the State Emblem ... we recommend that you shoot yourself!
    fool Do you, Sergey Averchenkov, want a ban for such "peasant" appeals? Remove better yourself.

    I say what I think. And here they gloriously noticed, if I am sober soberly in control - how not to offend anyone, but when I drink, all this tolerance flies and I say what I think. This is bad? Do you want to frighten me with a ban? Yes you are funny. Figs, I’ll delete that you will be removed for me, especially tolerant. Ban, by the way, is useful to me - I’ll do more work than wrangle with you.
  • Dedok
    Dedok 10 September 2019 08: 59 New
    0
    Mikhalkov laughs at the protests and at the same time blames officials.
    Why?
    If tomorrow the situation changes, he will tell everyone that they supposedly pointed them to their inaction ...
    And according to the protests - he is next to the authorities, "in one order."
    An opportunist, or as his father called these, "float."
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 12 September 2019 08: 12 New
    0
    Yes, God be with them, with the protesters. In the end, Muscovites decided who to vote for. But the question of who these publications want to cast out demons from remains open. It seems that they also want to determine Darwin. Outside the law. Although the Americans have great experience in this "sacred" struggle. The ball is ruled by public scientists. You cannot blindly copy everything else. Otherwise, we will step on the American rake.
  • Timofey Astakhov
    Timofey Astakhov 10 December 2019 00: 22 New
    0
    He’s lying. As, however, and always