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It became known about the losses of the Ukrainian DRG during the abduction of the "commander of the air defense unit" DPR

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Ukrainian media publish details about the operation, as a result of which Vladimir Tsemakh was kidnapped from the territory of the DPR. Recall that in Ukraine he is called the “commander of the air defense unit” of the DPR. Representatives of the Ukrainian special services in a wheelchair took Zemakh away, providing documents stating that this allegedly sick relative was being transported for treatment. Then Zemach was pumped with psychotropic substances.


It became known about the losses of the Ukrainian DRG during the abduction of the "commander of the air defense unit" DPR


The Ukrainian media reported that during this special operation an employee of the SBU was killed.

The press service of the Security Service of Ukraine said that these data are not true.

From the message of the SBU press secretary Elena Gitlyanskaya:
I officially inform you that during the period June-August of 2019, not a single SBU employee was killed.


Meanwhile, Ukrainian media persistently report losses during the abduction of Zemakh. So, in the publication "Facts" it is said that during the operation conducted by the Ukrainian special services in the territory of the DPR, "cyborg Alexander Kolodyazhny received injuries incompatible with life." What kind of injuries in question are not reported.

At one time, this man participated in the fighting on the territory of the Donetsk airport. Kolodyazhny (call sign "Number") was 45 years old. He was part of a sabotage and reconnaissance group.

Ukrainian media write that another representative of the DRG was seriously injured. According to some reports, both Kolodyazhny and the second wounded were able to move to the territory controlled by Kiev. There "Kol" and died in one of the clinics.

Recall: literally today in Ukraine they said that Tzemakh was no witness in the MH17 case, but the whole operation was a “Russian provocation”.
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  1. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 6 September 2019 15: 31
    +11
    literally today in Ukraine they said that Tzemakh was no witness in the MH17 case, but the whole operation was a “Russian provocation”.
    strongly said, it means that our specialists, under the guise of the Ukrainian DRG, entered the DPR, stole Zemakh and the SBU surrendered it. Then the question is, are they completely stupid in the SBU? Yes, and who did Cola score?
    1. Rwmos
      Rwmos 6 September 2019 15: 35
      +5
      Kol stepped on the cork, they say. To death ... And without a snack
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 6 September 2019 15: 37
      +15
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      and in the Security Service of Ukraine absolutely dumb serve?

      I have no doubt about this .. A man in his right mind and sober memory would he go to kill his own brother, who, at the same time, does not attack, but only defends the right to Russian speech and culture. Stupid - to put it mildly, people without principles and morality.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 6 September 2019 15: 41
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        I have no doubt about this .. A man in his right mind and sober memory, is he really going to kill his brother

        In 1917, do you think all stupid people lived in the Russian Empire? And your ancestors too?

        Have you ever wondered what the civil war was called?

        It is necessary to stop the bloodshed and think about consent, and not grudge to call the enemy stupid.

        It is precisely that the brothers are on opposite sides of the front line.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 6 September 2019 15: 47
          +39
          Quote: Vladimir16
          In 1917, do you think all stupid people lived in the Russian Empire? And your ancestors too?

          Have you ever wondered what the civil war was called?

          It is necessary to stop the bloodshed and think about consent, and not grudge to call the enemy stupid.

          From the point of view of political science and law, Ukraine is a civil war.
          But from the point of view of the ethno-mental concept, the classical war of cultures and the clash of civilizations. And it doesn’t matter that your opponent speaks Russian and has a Russian surname, he chose a party that prohibits Russian in writing of all forms: municipal and republican level. And also against May 9 and for the ideology of Bandera.
          1. major147
            major147 6 September 2019 17: 50
            +14
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            And it doesn’t matter that your opponent speaks Russian and has a Russian surname, he chose a party that prohibits Russian in writing of all forms: municipal and republican level. And also against May 9 and for the ideology of Bandera.

            To summarize and summarize - they are no longer Russian.
          2. Antares
            Antares 7 September 2019 07: 57
            -5
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            And it doesn’t matter that your opponent speaks Russian and has a Russian surname, he chose a party that prohibits Russian in writing of all forms: municipal and republican level. And also against May 9 and for the ideology of Bandera.

            funny but wrong
            if you chose Ukraine, then all the sins of hell have been attributed to you.
            If the RF, then you are bright and clean.
            usual psychological WE and THEY
            Stop sharing people! (Zelensky)
        2. Waddimm
          Waddimm 6 September 2019 15: 49
          +21
          Quote: Vladimir16
          brothers are on opposite sides of the front line

          Very controversial statement. As for kinship, they explained everything to us in detail in 2014. Why consider the relatives of those who consider you a second-class person? It is necessary to accept the situation and act appropriately for the situation, and not build illusions from scratch.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 6 September 2019 16: 05
            +5
            Quote: Waddimm
            Very controversial statement. As for kinship, they explained everything to us in detail in 2014. Why consider the relatives of those who consider you a second-class person?

            This is not a turn of speech, Ukrainians, like Russian brothers, if you look at least on the eighth knee, you will see it. As for the people of the second grade, the elite who sold to the West thinks so ... Who, through the media and propaganda, crushes their superiority to the Ukrainians ... even in spite of this, not all Ukrainians think so.

            Quote: Waddimm
            It is necessary to accept the situation and act appropriately for the situation, and not build illusions from scratch.

            Of course, it is necessary, it is necessary to adequately and according to the situation in 2014 recognize the independence of Donbass. Thus, we would stop the killing from all sides.
            1. monah
              monah 6 September 2019 17: 53
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Waddimm
              Very controversial statement. As for kinship, they explained everything to us in detail in 2014. Why consider the relatives of those who consider you a second-class person?

              This is not a turn of speech, Ukrainians, like Russian brothers, if you look at least on the eighth knee, you will see it. As for the people of the second grade, the elite who sold to the West thinks so ... Who, through the media and propaganda, crushes their superiority to the Ukrainians ... even in spite of this, not all Ukrainians think so.

              Quote: Waddimm
              It is necessary to accept the situation and act appropriately for the situation, and not build illusions from scratch.

              Of course, it is necessary, it is necessary to adequately and according to the situation in 2014 recognize the independence of Donbass. Thus, we would stop the killing from all sides.

              You're wrong, Klitschko thinks that’s what all Ukrainians think, but Not far!
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 6 September 2019 16: 30
            +13
            Quote: Waddimm
            . As for kinship, they explained everything to us in detail in 2014. Why consider the relatives of those who consider you a second-class person?

            One Ukrainian lived and worked for the LTZ who was married to a local Russian woman. There were children. Since 2014, he began talking to everyone through the lip. Contemptuous look. The word "Moskal" with interpretations did not slip off the tongue. He left with his wife. After 8 months we returned back. Became quieter than water, below the grass. After a while, the wife told what was the matter. It turns out that his family and friends did not accept him due to the fact that he had lived in Russia for a long time, his wife is Russian, the children don’t speak "mov", he himself had never been to the Maidan, etc., etc. In general, a complete "Moskal". The children at school were no better. That's how he lives now and keeps quiet. Here's a story
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 September 2019 17: 22
              +5
              Here is a story


              And there are a lot of such stories ...
          3. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 6 September 2019 17: 51
            +4
            Quote: Waddimm
            Quote: Vladimir16
            brothers are on opposite sides of the front line

            Very controversial statement. As for kinship, they explained everything to us in detail in 2014. Why consider the relatives of those who consider you a second-class person? It is necessary to accept the situation and act appropriately for the situation, and not build illusions from scratch.

            The third force decided to quarrel the two brothers. And set one of them against the other. The other, if he starts to act "adequately", will fall for the third force and, in fact, will play along with this third force. Don't you think?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 6 September 2019 19: 33
              +1
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The third force decided to quarrel the two brothers. And set one of them against the other. The other, if he starts to act "adequately", will fall for the third force and, in fact, will play along with this third force. Don't you think?

              Very accurately noticed!
            2. Waddimm
              Waddimm 6 September 2019 20: 36
              +5
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Don't you find?

              No. I do not find.
              It is impossible here to simplify to "everyday life". The overwhelming majority of Ukrainians sincerely believe that Russia is the enemy and the root cause of all their misfortunes. It just needs to be accepted. And take into account.
              1. volodimer
                volodimer 6 September 2019 21: 23
                +3
                Therefore, the Donbass, unfortunately, unlike Crimea and did not "return to their native harbor", at the time of the need to decide, there were enough people who disagreed with the Maidan and its policies, but were completely unprepared to become part of Russia, and believed that they had a future consisting of 404. And only when the official Kiev began to "clean up" them, that's when they began to remember their eastern neighbor. In Crimea, such options were not immediately considered, because there it all ended at once with "Polite people".
              2. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 6 September 2019 22: 45
                +2
                Quote: Waddimm

                The vast majority of Ukrainians sincerely consider Russia to be the enemy and the root cause of all their misfortunes.

                The "third force" told you about this and you fell for it. And I did not fall for it, I do not believe. Most of those who hate Russia have fallen victim to the deception spread by ukroSMI, owned by who? Guess three times. Pay attention to those characters whom Soloviev invites. They are really haters of Russia. But why does Soloviev invite only them? Because he also adds fuel to the fire of disagreements between the two peoples. Solovyov's task is to create haters of Ukraine in Russia, and the more, the better. And he, looking at you and those like you, succeeds. Why Solovyov never invited millions of ordinary people to the program? Because the myth about "the majority of Ukrainians who sincerely consider Russia an enemy" will immediately disappear like smoke.
                And do not discount the moral trauma of many Ukrainians received in connection with the loss of Crimea. Nobody says to them that Crimea itself left, but was not captured by the MTR. Do not forget that the third force is not stupid, and therefore it carries out propaganda very competently with all the Ukrainian media in its arsenal. And it’s very difficult for an ordinary Ukrainian to understand this propaganda. After all, you also did not understand, although the pressure of ukropropaganda on you is minimal.
                1. Waddimm
                  Waddimm 7 September 2019 05: 55
                  +4
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  looking at you and others like you, it succeeds. Why didn’t Soloviev ever invite millions of people to transfer ordinary people?

                  Do not look at Solovyov, look at the Ukrainian Internet, chat with Ukrainian relatives.
                  Do not consider Ukrainians more stupid than yourself (their third force could deceive you, but you are not)!
                  You can say "persimmon" a hundred times, but it won't be sweeter. You can call the inhabitants of Ukraine "brothers" a hundred times, but you will remain "cotton wool" for them.
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 7 September 2019 07: 55
                    -1
                    Quote: Waddimm

                    You can say "persimmon" a hundred times, but it won't be sweeter. You can call the inhabitants of Ukraine "brothers" a hundred times, but you will remain "cotton wool" for them.

                    Once again - do not cut everyone under one comb. I do not deny the presence of Russophobes in Ukraine (and where are they not?), But this does not mean that all citizens of Ukraine are Russophobes. Is this at least able to understand?
                    It seems to me that you all understand, but you really want all "Ukrainians" to become them, Russophobes. You are not getting the task because of a "puddle"?
                    1. Waddimm
                      Waddimm 7 September 2019 12: 39
                      +3
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      It seems to me that you all understand, but you really want all "Ukrainians" to become them, Russophobes. You are not getting the task because of a "puddle"?

                      Except how to label the arguments you do not have.
                      I do not consider all residents of Ukraine to be Russophobes.
                      However, it is foolish to deny the obvious - most residents of Ukraine have a negative attitude towards Russia. And stubborn personalities, like you, give a false and dangerous idea, calling brotherly people who enthusiastically hate everything Russian. It looks silly.
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 7 September 2019 20: 21
                        0
                        Quote: Waddimm
                        Except how to label the arguments you do not have.

                        Vadim, I didn’t hang any labels. Not for this I communicate with you.
                        Quote: Waddimm
                        However, it’s foolish to deny the obvious - the majority of Ukraine

                        Well, where did you get such confidence that the majority? Who counted? You? How? Have you visited the Ukrainian site and made a conclusion? So normal Ukrainians do not go to these sites. Believe me. And the rest .., time will judge us. hi
                      2. Waddimm
                        Waddimm 7 September 2019 21: 49
                        +3
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        So normal Ukrainians do not go to these sites. Believe me.

                        No, I won’t believe it. Normal Ukrainians? Which ones? Do you believe in the existence of a Ukrainian who considers Russian brothers? Are you seriously?
                        And time will certainly judge. In two generations, it will be completely different, not like it is now, but we will not know.
                        But now everything Russian is enemy number one for Ukraine. This must be remembered and not expose your back to the "brothers"!
                2. Antares
                  Antares 7 September 2019 08: 05
                  -4
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Pay attention to those characters whom Soloviev invites. They are really haters of Russia. But why does Soloviev invite only them? Because he also adds fuel to the fire of disagreements between the two peoples. Solovyov's task is to create haters of Ukraine in Russia, and the more, the better. And he, looking at you and those like you, succeeds. Why Solovyov never invited millions of ordinary people to the program? Because the myth about "the majority of Ukrainians who sincerely consider Russia an enemy" will immediately disappear like smoke.

                  absolutely right
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  And do not neglect the moral trauma of many Ukrainians received in connection with the loss of Crimea

                  the natural reaction of all people to the loss of territories. There can’t be another reaction!
                  She changed her attitude to the Russian Federation to a diametrically opposite status (rather than Maidan)
                  and will be a long, long time.
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Nobody says to them that Crimea itself left, but was not captured by the MTR

                  The President of the Russian Federation said that it was an operation. (Yes, we ourselves saw all the seizures and blood)
                  Desires of Crimeans were also present.
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Do not forget that the third force is not stupid, and therefore it carries out propaganda very competently with all the Ukrainian media in its arsenal

                  not one Ukrainian media has influenced me so much as comments on VO. From a staunch supporter of the Russian Federation, I was quickly cured of this.
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  And it’s very difficult for an ordinary Ukrainian to understand this propaganda

                  many factors. Crimea, forcing, separatism, internal hysteria, Maidan, nationalists ..
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 7 September 2019 20: 48
                    +2
                    Quote: Antares

                    the natural reaction of all people to the loss of territories. There can’t be another reaction!

                    Can! But for this it is necessary: ​​1. To know the story. 2. Try to understand why the Crimeans came (!) To the referendum and made such a decision (!)?
                    I hope you will not make us laugh with words - "voted at gunpoint".
                    Quote: Antares

                    She changed her attitude to the Russian Federation to a diametrically opposite status (rather than Maidan)
                    and will be a long, long time.

                    No, not only and not so much that. If you are an honest and decent person, and for some reason I think that this is so, then you will not deny that since August 91, the Ukrainian media poured tons of dirty lies on Russia every day. This is the main reason for the hostility towards Russia among the Ukrainian layman.
                    Quote: Antares

                    The President of the Russian Federation said that it was an operation. (Yes, we ourselves saw all the seizures and blood)

                    I hope you will not argue that the operations are different. So, the MTR of Russia did not occupy Crimea, but blocked the Ukrainian security forces in order to deprive them of the opportunity to prevent the referendum. And about the blood .., let it remain on your conscience.
                    Quote: Antares

                    not one Ukrainian media has influenced me so much as comments on VO. From a staunch supporter of the Russian Federation, I was quickly cured of this.

                    What a wimp you are. And no one can influence my point of view. Only facts that conflict with my point of view. Here are the facts. No one else.
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 8 September 2019 05: 12
                      +1
                      MTR of Russia did not occupy Crimea, but blocked the Ukrainian security forces

                      "Polite people" on the territory of Crimea cleaned out the gangs and hideouts of the Wahhabis and actually prevented the prepared invasion of those whom we now know as the banned ISIS. For some reason, there were practically no Ukrainian security officials in Crimea by this time))
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 8 September 2019 07: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: ctepx

                        "Polite people" on the territory of Crimea cleaned out the gangs and hideouts of the Wahhabis and actually prevented the prepared invasion of those whom we now know as the banned ISIS. For some reason, there were practically no Ukrainian security officials in Crimea by this time))

                        Correctly. But all this was already after the decision was made to satisfy the request of the Crimea to accept it as part of Russia.
              3. skif8013
                skif8013 8 September 2019 12: 19
                0
                Quote: Waddimm
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Don't you find?

                No. I do not find.
                It is impossible here to simplify to "everyday life". The overwhelming majority of Ukrainians sincerely believe that Russia is the enemy and the root cause of all their misfortunes. It just needs to be accepted. And take into account.

                Oh, how wrong you are. I personally communicate with people from that side, and not according to mine, but according to them, many still consider us brothers. You can’t even imagine what they’re going to communicate with Russia. With their blockade of networks, it is very difficult.
                1. Waddimm
                  Waddimm 8 September 2019 17: 16
                  0
                  Quote: skif8013
                  Oh, how wrong you are.

                  God grant! God grant! Personally, I do not have such an example. Therefore, I think that yours is more an anomaly than a norm.
              4. Sergey-8848
                Sergey-8848 8 September 2019 14: 52
                0
                So it has always been to a greater or lesser extent everywhere and always. Envy gnawed everything inside. The remains of the insides in 2014 told us that we were not brothers to them. Why should we talk to this remainder? With them - no, but with kind people - I would like to.
        3. Svarog
          Svarog 6 September 2019 15: 49
          +5
          Quote: Vladimir16
          In 1917, do you think all stupid people lived in the Russian Empire? And your ancestors too?

          One should not confuse the soft with the warm .. In 1917, society was divided and most of it did not want to live in the old way anymore, the "stability" of the monarchy, with its everywhere pervasive corruption and gnawed nobles (parasites for the most part) bored the population of the order .. And brother to brother went for an idea, but ukropitekov what idea? And as history has shown, the choice of the communists was correct. In the most difficult period, Russia proved the viability of the socialist idea and, despite the wars and devastation, managed to become a leading world power, in all respects. If in tsarist Russia there were only 14% educated, then in the USSR -100%, the standard of living, life expectancy, population growth ... everything exploded upward .. So, brother followed brother for the idea, what idea the Ukrainians have, I don't know, if you know tell.
        4. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 September 2019 16: 08
          +4
          Quote: Vladimir16
          In 1917, do you think all stupid people lived in the Russian Empire? And your ancestors too?
          Have you ever wondered what the civil war was called?
          The right thought. I have my own opinion. The collapse of the old State, but not collapse. The civil war is the most brutal, but all the same all the nations that were in the State remained in it did not fall apart and created the USSR. This is a direct legacy of the past state (Poles, Finns both came and went) and lived not badly, no matter how hard it was, and even survived the most monstrous war. But in 1991, the State disintegrated (not collapse, but disintegration) into a bunch of small specific principalities of evil, hungry, beggars ready to cut each other's throats. There was more blood in the civil war, but the state did not break up. We had a multinational State, but not an empire as I believe it is the State. So draw conclusions from here.
        5. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 September 2019 16: 23
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Have you ever wondered what the civil war was called?

          The war is the reason, and the consequence, the State, although seriously wounded, but remained, recovered and was able to repel the most terrible raid and emerged victorious. In 1991, the State was betrayed and stabbed in the back, a terrible blow that led to collapse, but life is still warm and it can still be saved. And there were 293 million people at the time of the collapse.
        6. olegactor
          olegactor 6 September 2019 17: 26
          +4
          In 1917, do you think all stupid people lived in the Russian Empire? And your ancestors too?


          do not confuse gamno with pavidlom ... compared the BOP and Bandera coven
        7. AKS-U
          AKS-U 6 September 2019 17: 58
          +3
          - "We need to stop the bloodshed and think about agreement, and not scoff at calling the enemy stupid."
          What kind of agreement? With whom? With those who killed 147 children?
        8. Tersky
          Tersky 6 September 2019 19: 27
          +8
          Quote: Vladimir16
          It is precisely that the brothers are on opposite sides of the front line.

          Brothers? For me, after 2014, Ukrainians are just Svidomo. Brothers are those who after the Maidan jumps ceased to lie, calling themselves some kind of made-up Ukrainians, preferring to fill out sociological questionnaires in Russian. Brothers are those whom Kiev politicians call a national minority, although in reality Russians in Ukraine are an overwhelming, or rather, all-consuming majority. In / in Ukraine now everything is simple and concrete: either you are Russian, or an artificially created broiler is Ukrainian. The time for compromise is five years since it ended.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 6 September 2019 19: 40
            -2
            Quote: Tersky
            The time for compromise is five years since it ended.

            For history, the time that we are "not brothers" is an instant .. It will pass very quickly and will not even be remembered, with a certain political will of Russia. Our cultural, historical, blood ties are so strong that they can be destroyed only with the passive policy of the “elder brother,” that is, Russia. What has Russia done to prevent such a situation? What did the "partners" do to create such a situation? And why is this happening? If you honestly answer these questions, then everything will become obvious. In many ways, what we have now is to blame for our policy towards the post-Soviet countries, or rather its absence.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 6 September 2019 19: 44
              +2
              Quote: Svarog
              What has Russia done to prevent such a situation? What did the "partners" do to create such a situation? And why is this happening? If you honestly answer these questions, then everything will become obvious. In many ways, what we have now is to blame for our policy towards the post-Soviet countries, or rather its absence.

              Oh?
              “Russia will never have, and never has had, such haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them liberated! .. They will begin, upon liberation , I repeat, it is precisely from what they beg for from Europe, from England and Germany, for example, the guarantee and protection of their freedom, and even in a concert of the European powers there will be Russia, but they will do just that in defense of Russia . They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not directly out loud, they will declare to themselves and convince themselves that they do not owe the slightest gratitude to Russia, on the contrary, that they could hardly escape from the power of Russia during the conclusion of the peace by the intervention of a European concert, and not if Europe had intervened, so Russia, having taken them away from the Turks, would have swallowed them immediately, “having in mind the expansion of borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire on the enslavement of the Slavs by the greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe”.
              Dostoevsky Fedor Mikhailovich.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 6 September 2019 19: 50
                -4
                Quote: Tersky
                Dostoevsky Fedor Mikhailovich.

                Dostoevsky only confirms that Russia is an older brother. The younger ones always strive to break out of custody and start an independent life .. But then there is a senior who would give a slap in time, or vice versa, how to help .. And what have we done? Do you really think that we have any kind of policy regarding post-Soviet countries?
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 6 September 2019 19: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Do you really think that we have any kind of policy regarding post-Soviet countries?

                  Today the policy is as simple as a bicycle - to return the same Ukraine to the state of the Wild Field, in order to once and for all burn out the very concept of "Ukrainian" invented by the purebred "Russian" - Lazar Kaganovich. And this is not a matter of one decade, a century will not be enough. The rest is all from the evil one. Ukraine arose from nowhere, and will go nowhere.
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 6 September 2019 20: 20
                    -5
                    Quote: Tersky
                    And this is not a matter of one decade, a century will not be enough.

                    Everything will depend on Russia here ..
                    [
                    i]
                    Russia may have any number of nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons, but since 500 of billions of dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still figure it out: is it your elite or already ours?
                    [/ I]

                    Brzezinski ..

                    In fact, it is this fact that speaks of speed when Ukraine returns to the orbit of Russia ..
                    and further ..
                    "
                    Russia can be either an empire or a democracy, but not both at the same time ... Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, with Ukraine, bribed and then subordinate, Russia automatically turns into an empire. "
                    Brzezinski again ..

                    It is vital for Russia to be an empire .. In the 90s, they began to split us up and this process continues .. just stopped, in order to continue with a new and already catastrophic force.
                  2. Antares
                    Antares 7 September 2019 08: 08
                    -4
                    Quote: Tersky
                    Today, politics is as simple as a bicycle - return the same Ukraine to the state of the Wild Field,

                    Yes, we are also very fond of you (this is to the fact that everyone in the Russian Federation only wants good and rays of light to Ukraine)
                    Quote: Tersky
                    in order to once and for all burn out the very concept of "Ukrainian" invented by a thoroughbred "Russian" - Lazar Kaganovich

                    honestly lost who invented us ... the authors according to the Russians say that there’s already a lot .. then AB then Bismarck then Lenin then Grushevsky is already Kaganovich ...
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 8 September 2019 05: 28
                      0
                      Note that Ukraine will return to the Wild Field state if Russia "does nothing to prevent such a situation." And Russia is to blame because ... it won't do it. By yourself, all by yourself)).
        9. tatarin1972
          tatarin1972 7 September 2019 19: 05
          0
          "Never when we will not be brothers" is not said by us, as an enemy - I do not consider them dull-headed, they quickly learn to think in war. Someone really wanted such a development of the plot, he did it, we didn’t do a damn thing for 25 years, we waited for the neighbors to have a "tail wagging the dog."
        10. 1536
          1536 8 September 2019 14: 25
          0
          As V.I. said Ulyanov (Lenin), the Civil War is an armed form of the class struggle. And the class struggle can take many forms, including the struggle to preserve their ethnic belonging to the Russian people, if there is an undisguised genocide of the people by another people, with the acute desire of the latter to remove those who disagree or people of a different nationality and language from all leading posts and use material resources to the detriment of Russian.
      2. German Titov
        German Titov 6 September 2019 21: 31
        +1
        Comrade "Major VO", I "wildly applaud" you. "Stupid - that's putting it mildly, people without principles and morals." "Esbichi" is about you.
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 6 September 2019 17: 48
      -2
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      literally today in Ukraine they said that Tzemakh was no witness in the MH17 case, but the whole operation was a “Russian provocation”.
      strongly said, it means that our specialists, under the guise of the Ukrainian DRG, entered the DPR, stole Zemakh and the SBU surrendered it. Then the question is, are they completely stupid in the SBU? Yes, and who did Cola score?

      Everything is much worse. Cyborgs entered ... somewhere there .. And it began.
      PySy. Tsemaha (obviously Israeli people) - change ?! HZ, then there was something.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 6 September 2019 18: 08
        +2
        Even worse, it turns out that the cyborgs on the territory of the DPR do whatever they want: they freely kidnap the right people, kill the leaders, etc.
        1. Antares
          Antares 7 September 2019 08: 09
          -3
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          kill leaders, etc.

          oh already elusive "Ukrainian DRGs" laughing
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 6 September 2019 18: 14
        0
        Quote: Normal ok
        Everything is much worse. Cyborgs entered ... somewhere there .. And it began.

    4. sabakina
      sabakina 6 September 2019 18: 12
      -1
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      Yes, and who is Cola scoring?
      In my opinion, Fantomas from the movie "A Secret to the Whole World".
    5. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 8 September 2019 10: 52
      0
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      Then the question is, are they completely stupid in the SBU? Yes, and who is Cola scoring?

      Kola was beaten up at the SBU - he didn’t accept that from the KGB provocateurs (NKVD, GPU, Cheka or anyone else), i.e. held the answer for succumbing to the provocation. This is not a combat loss, so there are no losses.
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  3. Black_PR
    Black_PR 6 September 2019 15: 40
    +3
    What do they use such slaughter, since they carry such crap. ... "Russian provocation" ... Midnight.
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 6 September 2019 16: 33
      +2
      These bloggers must be sent directly from Colombia.
    2. Antares
      Antares 7 September 2019 08: 10
      -1
      Quote: Black_PR
      What do they use such slaughter, since they carry such crap. ... "Russian provocation."

      a couple of bloggers said.
      The rest are not even in the know.
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  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 September 2019 16: 23
    +3
    At least they agreed that someone will lie, otherwise everyone lies, and the truth is generally far away. ..
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 6 September 2019 16: 41
    +8
    At first - Brilliant Peremoga, behind enemy lines, they took still warm, the most important witness!
    In fact - zrada, the man is not within the limits and does not know anything, and the deversants of two have also lost!
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 September 2019 17: 24
      +3
      And he turned out to be a very dangerous witness, dangerous for Ukraine, so they want to send him quickly.
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 6 September 2019 20: 28
      +1
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      First - Brilliant Peremoga, .... In fact - zrada,

      The usual story. It would even be strange if we had a different result.
  7. AKS-U
    AKS-U 6 September 2019 18: 06
    0
    - "Vladimir Tsemakh was abducted from the territory of the DPR.", "Tsemakh was taken out by representatives of the Ukrainian special services in a wheelchair" ...
    The enemy DRG walks along LDNR as if it were an area. We recall all the dead who wanted to hang the flag of the DPR in Kiev. The work of the enemy DRG. And who did not want (like, tame) are still alive.
  8. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 September 2019 20: 25
    +1
    "Cyborg Alexander Kolodyazhny received injuries incompatible with life."

    Cyborg and injuries are incompatible with life - things, excuse me for the pun, incompatible. Is that crushed by a multi-ton press or melted in a liquid metal. In short, the astalavista baby, you dont be-be-beck (excuse me, my pronunciation).
  9. huntsman650
    huntsman650 6 September 2019 21: 04
    0
    The article exceeds all expectations of the yellow press. Why the real hero of Ukraine, Nestor Makhno, is forgotten!
  10. high
    high 6 September 2019 23: 05
    +1
    Today in Ukraine they said that Tzemakh was not a witness in the MH17 case, but the whole operation was a “Russian provocation”.

    The link must be given, especially since this message is not in the main Ukrainian media.
    If Zemakh had not been a witness in the MH17 case, Russia would not have sought the transfer of a Ukrainian citizen. We had to keep our mouths shut, there is a Russian video where Zemakh tells how a passenger plane was shot down.
    I officially inform you that during the period June-August of 2019, not a single SBU employee died

    That's right, not only the SBU, but also other special forces participated in the abduction of Tsemakh - the military intelligence officer Kolodyazhny died.
    1. Antares
      Antares 7 September 2019 08: 14
      -2
      Quote: alta
      the military intelligence officer Kolodyazhny died.

      I knew one (studied with him)
      I hope not Sasha.
      Quote: alta
      If Zemakh had not been a witness in the MH17 case, Russia would not have sought the transfer of a Ukrainian citizen.

      Yes, because of him, the whole exchange was frustrated, and not because of Vyshinsky
      Quote: alta
      in the main Ukrainian media there.

      Politnavigator has (but who reads it)
      as well as little-known bloggers like REN TV guess
      RUSSIA is stubbornly pulling out a little thing and stubbornly unwound it
      creating the right information background
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 8 September 2019 00: 25
        +1
        In this article I write, the stubborn Ukrainian Natsik did not answer that comment - provide evidence that it was Tsemakh who was the key figure in the exchange. Otherwise, you are an ordinary cheap Ukrainian balabol.
  11. mu1972
    mu1972 6 September 2019 23: 11
    0
    "Cyborg Alexander Kolodyazhny received injuries incompatible with life." What kind of injuries in question are not reported.
    how is it not known? poured diamond dust into the grease!)
  12. Fitter65
    Fitter65 7 September 2019 11: 58
    0
    “Injuries incompatible with life received cyborg
    So after all, it is known to everyone that a cyborg can be destroyed either from a laser gun, or under a press, or if it is dropped into a container with molten metal. True, there are several more options, but this should be looked in the instructions for the destruction of cyborgs. Terminator-I, Terminator-II, etc. laughing It's just that when they write such nonsense about their military - our cyborgs, you begin to understand why they lost everything they could, and flew into various cauldrons with enviable periodicity. Remember the plots of all these films about cyborgs (by the way, in Poland "The Terminator" was called "Cyborg Killer"), at first a simple waitress put him under the press, then together with the boy they threw off a more perfect model in molten metal. It turns out that real cyborgs have artificial intelligence at the level of the Ukrainian military ... Ha, well, then they are definitely cyborgs, why am I? ... laughing laughing Happy first saturday drinks Well, with the upcoming Tankista Day soldier drinks
  13. iouris
    iouris 7 September 2019 12: 38
    0
    The DRGs of the terrorist regime are terrorists. Dutch and "international" "justice" has covered itself with shame.