Pozner called the Russian Orthodox Church dark, and Russia - a country without democracy

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The famous TV presenter Vladimir Pozner has once again not compared Russia’s options for government in our country and in Europe (in this case, it’s frankly difficult to say which country “ours” is for Vladimir Pozner, who has several citizenships).
Posner said that in Europe people feel freer than in Russia.

Pozner called the Russian Orthodox Church dark, and Russia - a country without democracy




At the same time, Posner did not specify exactly where in Europe “he lives more freely than in Russia”: on the Italian Lampedusa, where from a constant stream of refugees, local residents themselves turned their homes into real ghettos, encircled by 3 meter fences and barbed wire, or, to be maybe in the neighboring Shariah quarters of London, where (in the Shariah quarters) even armed police patrols are afraid to go? Where exactly in Europe do they feel freer: perhaps in France and Belgium, where terrorist attacks in the past few years number in the tens, and the victims in the hundreds, where the demonstrations are dispersed with particular cruelty, to which the actions of the Moscow riot police "like to the moon"?

According to Vladimir Pozner, who recalled the 1215 European Charter of Liberties, "the power of the king was limited in Europe already in the XIII century."
Posner:

And in Russia, the tsar’s power was never restricted by any law, and there’s nothing to say about protecting the rights of ordinary citizens. And this is just one example.

After that, Posner called the “dark” Russian Orthodox Church, adding that it “is much darker than the Catholic and Protestant.”

The whole message of Mr. Pozner is clearly aimed at reflecting on the “saints” 90, when anarchy reigned in Russia (or rather, the oligarchs tore at each other amid manual control from the USA), when the country was torn apart by war in the Caucasus, but the West liked us so much.
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  1. +35
    2 September 2019 15: 29
    After that, Posner called the “dark” Russian Orthodox Church, adding that it “is much darker than the Catholic and Protestant”

    If the Orthodox is dark, then I don’t know what to call the Catholic, in my opinion, more than democratic in all canons of the Russian Orthodox Church and you will not name it. And that there is no democracy in Russia, it might be better, well, nafig.
    1. +34
      2 September 2019 15: 36
      Pozner said that in Europe people feel freer than in Russia
      Well, no one keeps Go-na Posner here. Now is not the "iron curtain", go and live in a free country.
      1. +33
        2 September 2019 15: 46
        Slippery and already aged Posner - "worm" - the so-called. "citizen of the" world "- as always in his Russophobic-Zionist repertoire, he speaks about Russia at the Gaidar-Chubais-privatization wave of the Russian Federation in the 1990s!
        Svanidze to help him! Svanidze is the same. They still do not have enough of the mad demodice of Novodvorskaya - they have gone to another land!
        1. +4
          2 September 2019 15: 51
          Quote: Tatiana
          Svanidze to help him!

          Not only both of them will help Shevchenko .. Svanidze helped directly live .. laughing
        2. -11
          2 September 2019 18: 21
          Quote: Tatiana
          Zionist repertoire

          Posner is not a Jew, but a Frenchman with Jewish roots, and judging by his attitude to Israel, he clearly does not pull on a Zionist.
          1. +18
            2 September 2019 19: 10
            Quote: kiril1246
            Posner is not a Jew, but a Frenchman with Jewish roots

            Ha! A Frenchman with Jewish roots is the same as a French Jew.
            In our country, an ardent anti-Soviet and Russophobic Jewish woman, Novodvorskaya, was also a "Frenchwoman with Jewish roots," because her maternal grandparents were also Jews.

            It is noteworthy that immediately after graduating from Moscow State University (and Pozner entered there in 1953 and graduated under Khrushchev) V. Pozner was appointed head of the Broadcast (then radio). It is almost as if a cadet at the end of a military school immediately took up a general post.
            Those. the Posner family was so difficult that in the unofficial "table of ranks" it seemed to be at the level of members of the CPSU Central Committee.

            By the way, some believe that V. Pozner is one of the "puppeteers" in charge of Russia in the shadow "Global Administration". I also think so, remembering his "perestroika" TV programs and speeches. And he was not the only one.
            1. -5
              2 September 2019 19: 37
              Quote: Tatiana
              Ha! A Frenchman with Jewish roots is the same as a French Jew.

              Why invent some kind of universe of your own, where a Frenchman with Jewish roots == a Frenchman Jew. A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Judaism (Giyur), regardless of where he lives, in France, Russia or Israel. Posner does not satisfy this rule. His mother is a Frenchwoman who baptized him into Catholicism as a child. According to Jewish law, he is not a Jew, and you can consider him whoever you want, even Buryat.
              Quote: Tatiana
              Those. the Posner family was so difficult that in the unofficial "table of ranks" it seemed to be at the level of members of the CPSU Central Committee.

              Well, the Pozner family was probably not easy if his dad had worked for Soviet intelligence for so many years.
              1. +3
                2 September 2019 20: 04
                Don’t give a link to your dad?
                1. +2
                  2 September 2019 20: 58
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Don’t give a link to your dad?

                  1. 0
                    2 September 2019 21: 38
                    Quote: kiril1246
                    ....................
                    Here is a more complete interview with W. Pozner Gordon.

                    REFERENCE
                    Vladimir Pozner Soviet, Russian and American journalist and TV presenter, radio host, first president of the Russian Television Academy, writer. He leads the author's program "Posner" on the "First Channel".
                    Born: April 1, 1934 (85 years old), France, Paris, Paris, France

                    Vladimir Pozner. "Visiting Dmitry Gordon". 1/2 (2010)


                    Vladimir Pozner. "Visiting Dmitry Gordon". 2/2 (2010)
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              3. +3
                3 September 2019 09: 04
                Quote: kiril1246
                A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Judaism (Giyur)

                How do you know that Posner did not make a giyur? It is possible that has already been done for a long time, who knows ... feel
                1. 0
                  3 September 2019 12: 19
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  How do you know that Posner did not make a giyur? It is possible that has already been done for a long time, who knows ...

                  And how do I know that you did not make a giyur? Why should he make a giyur, if he in every possible way casts aside his Jewish roots, and Israel hates. What he has repeatedly stated. In YouTube there is his transfer of travel with an Urgant in Israel, there he repeatedly states this.
                  1. +3
                    3 September 2019 12: 26
                    Quote: kiril1246
                    And how do I know that you did not make a giyur?

                    That's right, and you don’t know. But why do you need to know this? And you don’t know about Posner, and I don’t know, we can only speculate.
                    Quote: kiril1246
                    Why should he make a giyur, if he in every possible way casts aside his Jewish roots, and Israel hates. What he has repeatedly stated. In YouTube there is his transfer of travel with Urgant in Israel, there he repeatedly states this

                    I don’t watch his program, or with him ... I see one thing, he doesn’t like Russia and its citizens, so let him go where he is better ... wink
                    1. 0
                      3 September 2019 16: 36
                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      That's right, and you don’t know. But why do you need to know this? And you don’t know about Posner, and I don’t know, we can only speculate.

                      And what is the general connection between religion and loyalty to the country? Krasnov and Shkuro were Orthodox, and fought against their homeland, shot at Russian soldiers. And Roshal, for example, is a Jew, but he can hardly be blamed for disloyalty to Russia.
                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      I don’t watch his program, or with him ... I see one thing, he doesn’t like Russia and its citizens, so let him go where he is better ...

                      agree
                      1. -1
                        3 September 2019 21: 15
                        Quote: kiril1246
                        Krasnov and Shkuro were Orthodox, and fought against their homeland, shot at Russian soldiers.

                        What kind of homeland did Shkuro and Krasnov fight against? Against the Russian Empire or against armed formations of an unknown country at that time, where one of the leaders was Lyova Bronstein (Trotsky) and others like him, who quite calmly killed Russians and Orthodox Christians, including Orthodox priests, proclaimed the "Red Terror", consisting of armed formations of which there were all sorts of "Latvian riflemen" and Chinese mercenaries. For them (Shkuro and Krasnova), these were the invaders of Russia and the murderers of the Russian people. About Krasnov after the Civil War - a special conversation, but about who Shkuro was before the "revolution" you can find out, for me, as a hero and a wonderful officer of His country.
                        Quote: kiril1246
                        But Roshal, for example, is a Jew, but it can hardly be blamed for disloyalty to Russia

                        And what does it have to do with ?! request
        3. +2
          3 September 2019 10: 53
          Quote: Tatiana
          Slippery and already aged Posner - "worm" - the so-called. "citizen of the" world "- as always in his Russophobic-Zionist repertoire, he speaks about Russia at the Gaidar-Chubais-privatization wave of the Russian Federation in the 1990s!
          Svanidze to help him! Svanidze is the same.

          An aged Posner can only arouse interest in his person by throwing such a fan on him. I don’t quite understand, is Nakoy even interested in the opinion of this senile? Let him live his life in silence and obscurity.
          1. +1
            3 September 2019 11: 09
            Quote: tomket
            Let him live his life in silence and obscurity.

            Ha! And the money WHERE would he - an old forgotten traitor - take for his comfortable living and for his comfortable living? He, after all, with such a "conscience" will calmly live up to 100 years!
      2. +5
        2 September 2019 16: 02
        Well, no one is holding Mr. Posner here.

        I have been installing on Pozner for a long time - either very badly, or not at all.
        Therefore - no way .....
      3. +3
        2 September 2019 17: 16
        Now is not the "iron curtain", go and live in a free country.


        So there he is an unknown TV presenter and no one pays money for his "talents".
      4. +13
        2 September 2019 17: 24
        And who needs it there? The US Patriot Posner only makes sense as an agent of influence in the Russian Federation. Outside of it, he will become the next old émigré to be published. And nobody will pay him money there - not that weight.
      5. +6
        2 September 2019 18: 24
        Pozdner is so greasy that arguing or even reacting to the outbursts of shit in his head is also greasy. Do not argue with the crazy - they must be ignored. Well said and said. What else to expect from this?
      6. +4
        2 September 2019 20: 16
        It's time to drive this Judah with a tattered stirrer, sanctions against him and a ban on entry into Russia ! belay Yes bully
    2. +10
      2 September 2019 15: 37
      Quote: lis-ik
      And that there is no democracy in Russia, it might be better, well, nafig.

      Democracy is just the power of democrats ... or liberals, which we have. And we need a power that does not care about itself, but about the people as a whole. There must be social justice, otherwise there is no sense in the state. The state is called upon to protect all segments of the population, and not only during military conflicts, but also socially. The state should give equal rights and opportunities to its citizens. What do we pay money to a huge mass of officials if they are engaged in sabotage?
      1. +4
        2 September 2019 16: 05
        Stop lying.
        Democracy (from the Greek. Demos - people, kratos - power, board) is a form of government in which citizens, personally or through elected representatives, exercise the right to make (political) decisions. Democracy is based on the recognition of the people as a source of power and involves the rule of the majority, the equal rights of citizens, the rule of law, etc.
        1. +1
          2 September 2019 16: 09
          Quote: Mestny
          Democracy is based on the recognition of the people as a source of power and involves the rule of the majority, the equal rights of citizens, the rule of law, etc.

          It’s based, but we can see it and it’s not close .. (democracy) Or do you think that the majority of our population supported pension reform? Or do you think that we have the rule of law?
          1. -1
            2 September 2019 20: 34
            Everything is relative.
            Compared to Yeltsin’s Russia, the current one is a model of legality.
        2. +15
          2 September 2019 16: 11
          The thing is that in the Greek language there are two names of the people. You brought, unfortunately, only one. The second is the plebs. They just did not have the right to vote. So the democrats have nothing to do with the majority.
          1. +2
            2 September 2019 18: 23
            Quote: besserbest
            names of the people. You brought, unfortunately, only one. The second is the plebs.

            plebs is from the latin language.
            1. 0
              2 September 2019 19: 20
              Quote: kiril1246
              Quote: besserbest
              names of the people. You brought, unfortunately, only one. The second is the plebs.

              plebs is from the latin language.

              Patricia and plebeians. So arrange?
              1. +1
                2 September 2019 20: 35
                It is important whether citizens - or not.
              2. 0
                3 September 2019 01: 50
                This is from the Romans)
        3. +1
          2 September 2019 16: 20
          Quote: Svarog
          And we need a power that does not care about itself, but about the people as a whole.

          whining again that some uncle will come and take care of the people
          Quote: Mestny
          Stop lying.
          that's for sure!
        4. +3
          2 September 2019 17: 24
          Quote: Mestny

          Democracy (from the Greek. Demos - people, kratos - power, board) is a form of government in which citizens, personally or through elected representatives, exercise the right to make (political) decisions. Democracy is based on the recognition of the people as a source of power and involves the rule of the majority, the equal rights of citizens, the rule of law, etc.

          Everything is correct. This is what is written in our Constitution. Only no country in the world has democracy. And in ours too. Because the power belongs to those to whom they obey. In our, and in any "democratic" country, people (demos) who obeys? Maybe the authorities often hold referendums in order to consult with the people? Maybe we choose someone in the elections? Not at all. In elections, we only affirm someone's choice. In Soviet times, there was an order of magnitude more democracy.
          And, on the topic ... And who is he, this Posner, so that I would be interested in his opinion? Once I listened to him and it was enough for me to understand - ... (the site forbids)
        5. +2
          2 September 2019 18: 04
          Quote: Mestny
          Stop lying.
          Democracy (from the Greek. Demos - people,

          oga ... and what is "okhlos"? in greece the people were those who had slaves (okhlos).
        6. 0
          2 September 2019 23: 49
          Democracy (from the Greek. Demos - people, kratos - power, board) is a form of government in which citizens, personally or through elected representatives, exercise the right to make (political) decisions.
          Based on this definition of democracy, there is not a single democratic state on our planet.
        7. 0
          3 September 2019 08: 20
          "Democracy (from the Greek demos - people, kratos - power, government) is a form of government in which citizens, personally or through elected representatives, exercise the right to make (political) decisions"
          Tell me, in what country in the world is there democracy in your literal translation? democracy in the original sense - a myth a long time ago
        8. 0
          4 September 2019 14: 15
          Mestny (Sergey) September 2, 2019 16:05
          +5
          [/ quote] Stop lying.
          Democracy (from the Greek. Demos - people, kratos - power, board) is a form of government in which citizens, personally or through elected representatives, exercise the right to make (political) decisions. Democracy is based on the recognition of the people as a source of power and involves the rule of the majority, the equal rights of citizens, the rule of law, etc.
          [Quote]


          Only where it (the democracy) was invented (other Greece), the power was held by a minority (citizens). Most of them had no rights and called them: -hey, you, slave! This is what we observe in countries with "state" democracies ...
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    4. +6
      2 September 2019 16: 00
      Quote: lis-ik
      If the Orthodox is dark, then I do not know what to call Catholic

      I, in general, also. I am against the demonization of Catholicism, but if you look from the perspective of Christian morality, then Catholicism before Orthodoxy is like a forest before China.
      Quote: lis-ik
      And that there is no democracy in Russia, it might be better, well, nafig.

      But this is you in vain.
      1. +2
        2 September 2019 16: 12
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        But this is you in vain.

        Unfortunately, we perceive this as licentiousness and permissiveness, both of the upper and lower classes. I am against such a democracy.
        1. +5
          2 September 2019 16: 49
          Quote: lis-ik
          Unfortunately, we perceive this as licentiousness and permissiveness, both of the upper and lower classes. I am against such a democracy.

          Well, now we have the licentiousness and permissiveness of the tops alone, and I'm not sure that this is good
      2. +6
        2 September 2019 16: 24
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        But this is you in vain.

        far from the modern interpretation of democracy in the West, as preferences for different minorities - well .... hi
        1. +5
          2 September 2019 16: 56
          Quote: ser56
          far from the modern interpretation of democracy in the West as preferences for different minorities

          Let me give you a simple example - in my hometown at the last governor's elections there was a lack of democracy. If it were, then the city and its population would be much easier, since the previous governor Yurevich tried to keep industrialists in check and controlled (at worst, but - controlled) industrial emissions into the atmosphere. At the same time it was known that Dubrovsky was a creature from production workers. The result is known - Yurevich is out of the elections on a formal basis, Dubrovsky was chosen in the "elections without elections", and then - an ecological disaster.
          1. 0
            3 September 2019 04: 17
            Andrew! Our former governors Yuryevich and Dubrovsky are ordinary businessmen and they could not have had any other goals of the governorship other than to "cut the money".
            The governor is just a business and no more ...
            1. +1
              3 September 2019 16: 11
              Quote: Qwertyarion
              The governor is just a business and no more ...

              Yet Yurevich was a little more. Of course, he, too, didn’t forget himself, but at the same time he did a lot of useful things for the city.
              1. 0
                3 September 2019 18: 59
                Unfortunately I can not judge the affairs of Yurevich in the city, but I did not notice any breakthroughs in the field. For me, Yurevich, a pasta tycoon, seemed to own Chelyabinskoblgaz, took part in the endless construction of the Chelyabinsk metro.
                A successful businessman and for some reason went to the governors, how it all ended we all know.
                A good word can only recall Sumin P.I.
                1. +1
                  3 September 2019 19: 13
                  Quote: Qwertyarion
                  Unfortunately I can not judge the affairs of Yurevich in the city

                  More or less clean air is a huge plus. In addition, Yurevich shoved Chelyabinsk into the federal program, so that we received funding from the center for road repair - new interchanges, bridges, four-rows turned into six-row ones ... I travel a lot around the country (before) I assure that in addition to Moscow and St. Petersburg and Chelyabinsk in terms of unbroken roads around the country hardly anyone could argue
          2. 0
            3 September 2019 10: 58
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            in my hometown in the last governor election, democracy was sorely lacking.

            I will say this - you do not understand the essence of democracy - not the smartest and most honest win the election, but the most sophisticated in intrigue, able to find a compromise between different parties and loot ... request
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            formally dismissed

            funny, hear this from you - the law is the formality - so everything is democratic ... bully
            1. +1
              3 September 2019 16: 19
              Quote: ser56
              I will say this - you do not understand the essence of democracy

              Wow:))))
              Quote: ser56
              not the smartest and most honest win, but the most sophisticated in intrigue, able to find a compromise between different parties and loot ...

              That you are now writing about democracy. And instead of all of the above, the administrative resource wins here. That is, if V.V. Putin decided who to be the governor, he will be, and no dough and intrigue will help.
              The meaning of democracy is that loot and intrigue are spent on convincing the electorate. We have to spend them on the acquisition of adm. resource, support from above. This, in fact, is the difference between democracy and its absence :)))
              Quote: ser56
              funny, hear this from you - the law is the formality - so everything is democratic ...

              Here I am, unfortunately, unable to understand your logic. The law is the law, and it has nothing to do with democracy. Laws exist both under democracy and in totalitarianism. Democracy in theory implies equality before the law, but how did you manage to write down the dropout on the (formal sign above) into the triumph of democracy - this riddle is great.
              1. 0
                3 September 2019 16: 34
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                The meaning of democracy is that loot and intrigue are spent on convincing the electorate.

                you are an idealist, this is not a conviction, but a zombie ... bully
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                That is, if V.V. Putin decided who to be the governor, he will be, and no dough and intrigue will help.

                again, you have an aberration of concepts - this is not an administrative resource, but the presence of authority, people vote not because they were ordered, but because they believe the GDP ... request
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                This, in fact, is the difference between democracy and its absence :)))

                there are different forms of democracy .. for the classical (Greek or Roman) we need slaves, for the medieval we need sleds (in England, in V. Novgorod) ... we have a sovereign bully , no worse than the American or French - the first won the billionaire, the second protege of Rothschild ... hi
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                You managed to write down screenings (signposted above) on a formal basis in the triumph of democracy - this riddle is great.

                1) It’s a pity that you don’t want to hear - if they were screened out in a formal way, then everything is legal - these signs are spelled out in laws ... As for the selective application of laws, this is another problem ... request
                2) For you, democracy, when weed out someone else's candidate? bully
                1. -1
                  3 September 2019 17: 28
                  Quote: ser56
                  you are an idealist, this is not a conviction, but a zombie ...

                  I’m just well aware of how election campaigns are going in the same USA and how they differ from ours :)))
                  Quote: ser56
                  again, you have an aberration of concepts - this is not an administrative resource, but the presence of authority, people vote not because they were ordered, but because they believe the GDP ...

                  No, this is not an aberration of concepts for me, but a direct pulling of an owl on your globe.
                  Quote: ser56
                  there are different forms of democracy ..

                  Is it possible without verbiage? :)))) Well, you do not know what democracy is, why build an expert in yourself?
                  Quote: ser56
                  for the classical (Greek or Roman) slaves are needed; for the medieval, smerds are needed (in England, in V. Novgorod)

                  How would it be softer ... In general, neither one nor the other nor slaves nor stinks were needed. Slaves and stinks were needed for the ECONOMY of England and Novgorod. And democratic rights, both there and there, extended to citizens (although quite often - not to citizens, but not the essence). The point is that the only distinguishing feature of democracy is collective decision-making (the same elections) in which citizens of the country / society participate. Slaves are non-citizens, that's just what they are doing.
                  That is, if citizens have the opportunity to participate in the collective management of the state (through elections), then this is democracy. If citizens cannot do this, there is no democracy. Our citizens cannot choose - they choose for them. Accordingly, we cannot talk about democracy.
                  Quote: ser56
                  1) It’s a pity that you don’t want to hear - if they were screened out in a formal way, then everything is legal - these signs are spelled out in laws ... As for the selective application of laws, this is another problem ...

                  And here you have a complete aberration of concepts. You managed to mix democracy and the rule of law. Yes, everything is legal with us - but undemocratic. It would be democratic if the laws were not applied selectively, but to all equally. But this is not, that's why there is no democracy
                  Quote: ser56
                  For you, democracy, when someone else’s candidate is screened out?

                  For me, democracy is when there is someone to choose from in an election. And not when the government, using the law like a rod, removes real candidates and leaves us "choice without choice" - those people for whom we could vote simply do not reach voting
                  And yes, if you say that it is their fault - strong advice - try to run for election somewhere :))))))
                  1. 0
                    3 September 2019 17: 51
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    I’m just well aware of how election campaigns are going in the same USA and how they differ from ours :)))

                    How many have lived in the USA? I’ve been listening to debates in the state congress for a couple of months - the language is good ... wink
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    No, this is not an aberration of concepts for me, but a direct pulling of an owl on your globe.

                    unlike you, I give arguments ... bully
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Well, you don’t know what democracy is, why build an expert in yourself?

                    what are you know-it-all i know ... hi however, I don’t see any arguments from you ... bully
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    That is, if citizens have the opportunity to participate in the collective management of the state (through elections), then this is democracy.

                    1) it’s sad with you ... you haven’t even mastered the banal ismatism ... bully
                    2) the main question - how many of these citizens are in the state - all sit in the Boyar Duma or all who are older than 18 ... bully Perhaps for you the presence of slaves or smerds is purely an economy ... bully Then why is it depressing you that our authorities ranked you as de facto? Be consistent ... hi
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Our citizens cannot choose - they choose for them.

                    draw for you in the newsletters? bully
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    You managed to mix democracy and the rule of law.

                    Do you know democracy without the rule of law? This is a necessary but not sufficient condition ... bully
                    One of the definitions of democracy is a procedure - i.e. legality ... hi
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    Yes, everything is legal with us - but undemocratic.

                    words .... democratic - not democratic - it is a matter of taste and desire ... bully
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    It would be democratic if the laws were not applied selectively, but to all equally. But this is not, that's why there is no democracy

                    it’s sad with you - but where is it in the world? It’s like you didn’t leave the world from your Chelyabinsk or are still chewing the cud of perestroika ... bully
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    For me, democracy is when there is someone to choose from in the elections

                    Hmm, you're definitely from the foremen of Perestroika ... bully if not a secret - why did you decide that your opinion is significant? You have one vote ...
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    using the law that drawbar removes real candidates

                    are you a masochist? or do you like demagoguery? you yourself showed what was done LEGALLY! Claims against your candidate - if he could not fulfill the formal requirements - then what is he capable of doing at all? bully
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    try to run somewhere somehow :))))))

                    1) I once was at the electoral headquarters for elections to the State Duma for a very long time and I can tell you that this is not a simple matter ... request Enough tricks to use the procedure prescribed by law ...
                    2) As for me, I firmly do not want to lead people, if I have to, then only to implement my ideas ..... hi
                    1. 0
                      3 September 2019 17: 56
                      Quote: ser56
                      on elections to the State Duma

                      sclerosis is still sun ... feel
                    2. 0
                      3 September 2019 19: 08
                      Quote: ser56
                      How many have lived in the USA? I’ve been listening to debates in the state congress for a couple of months - the language is good ...

                      Not at all. I am writing from the words of a very good friend of a lawyer who specializes in the electoral law in the Russian Federation and who has lived in the United States once in 6 more than yours
                      Quote: ser56
                      unlike you, I give arguments ...

                      No, do not bring.
                      Quote: ser56
                      that you know-it-all I know ... hi however I don’t see any arguments from you, except for myself ...

                      The ability to ignore the obvious is your hobby
                      Quote: ser56
                      1) it’s sad with you ... you haven’t even mastered the banal ismatism ...

                      That's all your argument :)))))) When specific definitions are given to you (for example, democracy), the Crying of Yaroslavna begins on your part :)
                      Quote: ser56
                      the main question is how many of these citizens in the state

                      Alas, for the definition of democracy this is NOT the main question :))) But what I like about you - even when you give a definition, you still will not go down to test your knowledge, but continue to fantasize on a given topic.
                      Quote: ser56
                      Then why is it depressing you that our authorities ranked you as de facto? Be consistent ...

                      But even in your fantasies, you allow stunning logical punctures.
                      For example, you are not able to understand that in the cases described by you, collective management is carried out by citizens. And that a citizen is not only a name, but the rights and obligations that accompany it. Nobody deprived me of the status of a citizen, I bear the duties of a citizen - but in my rights they cut me a little bit like that. And this is a fundamental difference - however, where do you understand this?
                      And secondly, the presence in the democracy of the same Greece of non-citizens does not cancel the presence of citizens. That is, yes, there were large groups of the population that could not vote, but still there was a significant group of the population that could vote, and the decisions it made were collegial. We don’t have anything like that, because the decision on appointments is not collegial - the last word is for V.V. Putin. In other words, you could still be understood if I were deprived of the opportunity to vote, but it, this opportunity, would have remained for a significant group of the population of the Russian Federation - then it was still possible with great reservations, but still talk about democracy. But there is no such group, and therefore it is impossible to talk about democracy.
                      Quote: ser56
                      draw for you in the newsletters?

                      And you did not know? :))))) What naive :)))))
                      Quote: ser56
                      Do you know democracy without the rule of law? This is a necessary but not sufficient condition ...

                      Therefore, you should not replace one with another. However, I am glad that at least something has begun to reach you.
                      Quote: ser56
                      One of the definitions of democracy is a procedure - i.e. legality ...

                      No, it didn’t :)))) Because the English gentlemen understood this phrase as EXACTLY COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS UNDER COLLEGAL DEMOCRATIC DECISIONS.
                      You either are not able (as usual) to understand what you are writing about, or you understand everything extremely literally. But, in the latter case, if democracy is a procedure, then enema is also a procedure (medical), which means enema is democracy! Would you like democracy half a bucket of skipy macaw with gramophone needles?
                      Quote: ser56
                      Hike you from your Chelyabinsk never traveled to the world

                      Yeah :))) the Russian Federation from Ulan-Ude to St. Petersburg and Belgorod, Spain, Italy, Greece, Turkey ... I’m generally a homebody by nature :)))))))
                      Quote: ser56
                      are you a masochist? or do you like demagoguery? you yourself showed what was done LEGALLY! Claims against your candidate - if he could not fulfill the formal requirements - then what is he capable of doing at all?

                      I will reveal a military secret - on a formal basis, you can fill up ANY candidate :)))) Without any special problems. Talk to lawyers :))))
                      Quote: ser56
                      I once very a long time ago was in the electoral headquarters for elections to the State Duma

                      It’s worthless, with your ability not to see the obvious ...
                      1. 0
                        4 September 2019 10: 37
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Not at all

                        then what to talk about with you? bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        When you are given specific definitions

                        do not quote your definition? from you, only wishes and nonsense ...
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Alas, for the definition of democracy this is NOT the main question :)

                        not at all - if democracy and slavery are compatible for you, then you need to work out the terms - what are the people ... demos or plebs ... bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        I carry the duties of a citizen - but in my rights they cut me a little bit like that. And this is a fundamental difference - however, where do you understand this?

                        Again snot about the fact that your candidate was not capable of political struggle ... bully I understand the essence of politics, and you have intellectual nonsense ...
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        And secondly, the presence in the democracy of the same Greece of non-citizens does not cancel the presence of citizens

                        so you are also a supporter of the Nazis in the Baltic states! not surprised ... all the superintendents of perestroika consistently go to Nazism ... bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        because decisions on appointments are not collegial - the last word is for V.V. Putin

                        if not a secret - and who do you want to see in this college? bully GDP is at least popularly elected, its opinion is essential for the majority of Russian citizens, but this is not acceptable for you - do you want to replace some backstage sessions with others? of those who are closer to you? bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        But there is no such group, and therefore it is impossible to talk about democracy.

                        this is your opinion offended and not true ... precisely because you do not correctly understand the essence of democracy ... bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        And you did not know? :))))) What naive :)))))

                        can you prove it? or run away directly into the bushes? bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Therefore, you should not replace one with another

                        this is your thesis, not mine - you suggest replacing the rule of law with your Wishlist about some candidate ... bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        However, I am glad that at least something has begun to reach you.
                        unfortunately I can’t say the same about you - you live in the coordinates of the late 80s ....
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Because the English gentlemen

                        I do not suffer from complexes in front of England, by the way have you been to it? So - the premiere there is de facto chosen by members of the ruling party, not the people ... But I understand that in your opinion this is democracy ... bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        AT COLLEGAL DEMOCRATIC DECISIONS.
                        where did you get the idea that collegiality is the essence of democracy? For you, the power of the Politburo or the Boyar Duma is democracy? bully
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        then enema is also a procedure (medical), which means enema is democracy

                        1) yeah, it looks like you have problems ... and the level of discussion is skirting ... bully
                        2) A procedure is a procedure for nominating and registering candidates for elections, any violation of it is a violation of democracy ...
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        I'm generally a homebody by nature

                        and I have to travel around the world to work and have been to many places, so I don’t have small-town pink-zhemshizov glasses ...
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Speak with lawyers

                        1) Yes, I talked a lot - like there were cases in the Arbitration - so 2 lawyers -3 opinions ....
                        2) it is impossible to fill up without serious reasons, there is still a court, publicity in the media ... so if the former governor is not even capable of this, then there is a motivated doubt about its adequacy ...
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Olk, with your ability not to see the obvious ...

                        see above about yourself beloved ... however you are a theorist ...
                  2. 0
                    3 September 2019 17: 58
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    leaves us "choice without choice" - those people for whom we could vote simply do not reach the vote

                    By the way - look at how Sanders was thrown out of the process in 2016 for the sake of Clinton - this is politics ... hi
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            1. 0
              3 September 2019 10: 07
              Yuri, there is a hotbed of militant atheists.
              So you grabbed the cons.
              Here's an example of the Poznerian protector:
              Quote: RUSS
              Posner is an atheist, all religions are alien to him.


              You are absolutely right "Khryun knows that the Orthodox are not spiteful and patient with the Gentiles." So he shits under the door knowing that he won't be poked into the actual shit for this.
              But someone after all can not stand and put on the ears of this pig. Perhaps this crap and achieves, then to scream that there is urine.

              Ghoul he is a ghoul.

              God bless him.
          2. +2
            2 September 2019 21: 09
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Posner is a Jew. Pours shit on someone else's faith. Damn it.
            Why not comment on the actions of Jewish priests? Pissing?

            Posner is an atheist, all religions are alien to him.
            1. 0
              3 September 2019 11: 00
              Quote: RUSS
              Posner is an atheist, all religions are alien to him.

              atheism is a form of religion, as is Satanism ... request look at K. Marx ...
          3. 0
            3 September 2019 09: 09
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Damn it.
            Why not comment on the actions of Jewish priests? Pissing?

            Initially, he is a Catholic (these are not Orthodox friends), but now it is not known who, maybe you are not far from the truth. request
    5. +3
      2 September 2019 16: 51
      There are no tortures, there are no reservations, there is no space public debt, there are no blacks (non-citizens) ... For the company, and there is no democracy.
      Democracy in Russia will appear when at least the first three positions are present!
    6. +5
      2 September 2019 17: 13
      In one of Bushkov’s novels, I read this definition of democracy
      "When you are sent to, to, and to, and you choose where to go
      1. -3
        2 September 2019 17: 17
        Quote: vladcub
        In one of Bushkov’s novels, I read this definition of democracy
        "When you are sent to, to, and to, and you choose where to go

        Bushkov has many novels. read Koretsky, there is more patriotic and more truth of life. By the way, Bushks have fantasy too.
    7. +1
      2 September 2019 17: 31
      If the Orthodox is dark, then I don’t know what to call the Catholic, in my opinion, more than democratic in all canons of the Russian Orthodox Church and you will not name it. And that there is no democracy in Russia, it might be better, well, nafig.
    8. +5
      2 September 2019 17: 32
      Quote: lis-ik
      And that there is no democracy in Russia, it might be better, well, nafig.

      This is just fine.
      Personally, I do not want to live under the system that they misunderstood to call "democracy."

      They do not have majority rule, but minority rule. And this "democracy" was originally. Since the days of the ancient Greeks, when few could "democratically" own slaves. And kill people like Socrates. Democratic decision of the minority.
    9. -1
      2 September 2019 18: 22
      Rzhachno!
      The Orthodox Church, with its strictest hierarchy and strict vertical of power, is “democratic” ?!
      What are you talking about? !!
      1. -1
        2 September 2019 20: 13
        Quote: Old Tanker
        Rzhachno!
        The Orthodox Church, with its strictest hierarchy and strict vertical of power, is “democratic” ?!
        What are you talking about? !!

        And if you still remember how it was planted, the Hague smells there, for sure!
    10. 0
      2 September 2019 21: 07
      Quote: lis-ik
      If the Orthodox is dark,

      Dark means archaic and oddly superstitious on the verge of paganism, not all of course the ROC, but many of its ministers and part of the flock.
      Quote: lis-ik
      . And that there is no democracy in Russia

      Yes ...... neither of you can corrode a servile, slavish mentality.
    11. 0
      3 September 2019 10: 44
      And what is Posner wrong? Maybe we have good medicine or an excellent education, I’m unable to get an appointment with an orthopedist for a month, I don’t have any numbers, the doctor takes me 2 days a week until 12:00, the curtain ... One doctor says one thing, the other says the other, both work in one hospital and this is not some extraordinary case, it’s everywhere, it’s even worse, it’s in St. Petersburg, but in the province it’s just P. Or maybe we have a mortgage of 1,5%, like from a Sberbank in Prague, oh, we don’t have from a Sberbank 10 %, about gasoline in Kazakhstan from Rosneft and in the Russian Federation to remind? But in France or England, do prosecutors threaten to take away children from rally participants, and expel students from universities for participating in rallies? I am not a supporter of Navalny, and I don’t like cookies in principle, but living with us is difficult, and not even because of low salaries, but because of widespread lawlessness, kumovst and criminal inaction, and often the actions of the authorities. September 15, baptism of a daughter, think for free, think about how baptism should be done for free, and then everyone, to the best of his ability and conscience, brings some sacrificial amount? Yeah, no matter how ... And why do we have so many atheists right now? The Catholic Church is still far away, but the trend is bad.
    12. 0
      4 September 2019 12: 31
      And the gundya is headed by the brightest man
  2. +7
    2 September 2019 15: 31
    I wish I could lose this earnings on TV.
    1. +1
      2 September 2019 16: 03
      I wish I could lose this earnings on TV.

      What non-kosher speeches do you speak))))
      1. +2
        2 September 2019 17: 04
        But the truth is not kosher at all. (large-scale and ambiguous happened, but what can you do)
    2. +2
      2 September 2019 17: 28
      Quote: Labrador
      I wish I could lose this earnings on TV.

      Do as I do - do not watch his programs. His rating will fall and he will immediately be asked to exit.
    3. -3
      2 September 2019 21: 07
      Quote: Labrador
      I wish I could lose this earnings on TV.

      And you in his place laughing
      1. +1
        2 September 2019 22: 47
        Thank you, but I feel good in my place. stop
  3. +4
    2 September 2019 15: 32
    It’s high time to limit the presence on the main federal channels of characters constantly kicking Russia, where these characters have blossomed in bright colors, have enriched themselves, but continue to water it with verbiage.
    1. +8
      2 September 2019 15: 48
      Quote: nesvobodnaja
      It’s high time to limit the presence on the main federal channels of characters constantly kicking Russia,

      Do you want only Solovyov and Kiselyov to stay .. I don’t give a damn about Posner, but why don't they give time on federal channels to socialists, communists? Here is cheers patriotism, which is pouring from all the cracks, you need to change to realism, and preferably also leading ones, otherwise the comrades get garbage .. I myself have soaped myself to live in Europe .. but it teaches us patriotism ..
      1. +7
        2 September 2019 16: 06
        Quote: Svarog
        but why do not give time on federal channels to socialists, communists?

        Do we have them? I don’t see something.
        1. +2
          2 September 2019 16: 07
          Quote: ultra
          Quote: Svarog
          but why do not give time on federal channels to socialists, communists?

          Do we have them? I don’t see something.

          Grudinin, Shevchenko, Platoshkin .. you don’t have enough, and if you don’t hurt many more bright personalities will appear.
          1. +11
            2 September 2019 16: 11
            Although I myself voted for Grudinin, he is the same communist-socialist as I am Giselle. Shevchenko is without comment. But Platoshkin can, but only create a new party. And of the existing ones, we have neither communists, nor socialists Problems.
          2. +1
            2 September 2019 17: 34
            Quote: Svarog
            Grudinin, Shevchenko, Platoshkin ..

            Instead of them in Russia 24 regularly acts Zyuganov.
            1. +4
              3 September 2019 04: 23
              Quote: Spade
              Instead of them in Russia 24 regularly acts Zyuganov.

              Thus conducting the anti-advertising of the Communist Party. Probably thought so.
      2. +1
        2 September 2019 16: 53
        We want the "opposition" not to confuse the shores and not touch some things with their "judgments". In the west there are topics that are forbidden even for local Pravdorubov. And it is right.
        1. +1
          2 September 2019 16: 56
          Quote: Cottodraton
          We want the "opposition" not to confuse the shores and not touch some things with their "judgments". In the west there are topics that are forbidden even for local Pravdorubov. And it is right.

          And what specific topics should not be touched by judgments in the West, and what do you think is unacceptable in our country?
          1. +4
            2 September 2019 17: 09
            For example, trying to interpret history in your own way, trying to pour mud on yourself - "repent" ... None of the Anglo-Saxons has ever been noticed in this. But our vomit pop position always wants to repent before someone and look for one negative in our history and civilization (yes, we have OWN civilization, no matter how you turn you around), instilling an inferiority complex on the ethnic group ...
            WELL NOT THE PERFECT WEST, it's time to understand this truth and throw the shit of the 80-90s mantra about their superiority out of my head. We are no worse
            1. +1
              2 September 2019 17: 52
              Quote: Cottodraton
              For example, trying to interpret history in your own way, trying to pour mud on yourself - "repent" ...

              That’s for sure, repentance and sprinkling ash on your head is not worth it, but you must carefully deal with history, now even in our kingdom it is biased very much ..
      3. 0
        3 September 2019 09: 14
        Quote: Svarog
        but why do not give time on federal channels to socialists, communists?

        How not to give? Yes, they lead the country! wink
    2. -2
      2 September 2019 21: 12
      Quote: nesvobodnaja
      It’s high time to limit the presence on the main federal channels of characters constantly kicking Russia, where these characters have blossomed in bright colors, have enriched themselves, but continue to water it with verbiage.

      And leave on TV only Kissel, Nightingale and the Skobeev-Popov couple? And then we will heal !!! And there will be a breakthrough !!!
      1. 0
        3 September 2019 12: 54
        This also should not be too zealous ...)
  4. +8
    2 September 2019 15: 33
    Posner said that in Europe people feel freer than in Russia.

    Not freedom of Russia is needed, but social justice, fair elections, science, education, own production from cowards to computers .. That's when citizens will live with dignity, then there will be true freedom .. but what kind of freedom Pozner tells me is not clear ..
    1. +4
      2 September 2019 15: 49
      Svarog (Vladimir)
      Russia does not need freedom, but social justice, fair elections, science, education, own production from cowards to computers ..

      All of the above you need any country.
      But how many countries do you know where all of the above is present?
      But the Soviet Union almost all of this was. Well, or almost everything.
      1. -1
        2 September 2019 15: 50
        Quote: angelica
        But the Soviet Union almost all of this was. Well, or almost everything.

        So I’m talking about that ..
        1. +1
          2 September 2019 15: 52
          This is a sore point for me.
          Have done something stupid (the people as a whole) in 91. And now we are trying to invent a "bicycle".
          1. +1
            2 September 2019 15: 54
            Quote: angelica
            And now we are trying to invent a "bicycle".

            Unfortunately, we don’t even try .. they invented their bike and it suits them .. (those who are now in power), unlike the vast majority of citizens.
          2. +2
            2 September 2019 16: 59
            Not, judging by the result, not stupidity. Houses and roads are being built, cars are being sold, each has 3 phones.
            In the Gorbachev Soviet Union, even the cultivation of food was declared unearned income. Warehouses were full of groceries, you could "get" everything, but the shops were empty ...
            No, they did everything right, suffered from acute cargo-occultism, and now we are slowly rebuilding the country.
            And the United States, the Irish Democratic Republican mafia, which came to power with L. Johnson, and ruling so far, is doing the same with the USA as the Communist Party in the USSR.
      2. -1
        2 September 2019 17: 34
        Only there was nothing on sale. Something was being produced somewhere, and the same toilet paper was in the queue.
  5. +7
    2 September 2019 15: 37
    And even in this dark church, they are not allowed to blow the shofar, and they don’t give matzo, barbarians.
    In general, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, what Pozdner said, given his nationality, is the propaganda of nat. discord.
    1. +4
      2 September 2019 17: 39
      according to the laws of the Russian Federation, what Pozdner said, given his nationality, is the propaganda of nat. discord.

      Ahahah Taunted. So, according to 282 in the vast majority of Russians they judge.
      1. +1
        2 September 2019 21: 12
        Quote: 777-3-59-97
        according to the laws of the Russian Federation, what Pozdner said, given his nationality, is the propaganda of nat. discord.

        Ahahah Taunted. So, according to 282 in the vast majority of Russians they judge.

        228
  6. +1
    2 September 2019 15: 37
    Pozner called the Russian Orthodox Church dark, and Russia - a country without democracy
    Let him go to the USA and try to criticize the authorities in the same way. Although ... no one will let him into the central channels. And without such a rostrum, what he can do the most is to preach democracy to the homeless in the shelter and ... uh ... blacks in Harlem by the evening fire in a barrel.
    Europe people feel freer
    They may feel freer, but whether they are freer is a big question.
    1. +5
      2 September 2019 16: 01
      Quote: abrakadabre
      Let him go to the USA and try to criticize the authorities in the same way.

      Yes easily
      Quote: abrakadabre
      Although ... no one will let him into the central channels.

      Yes, but that’s what America cannot take away — power there can be criticized quite freely. And on television this criticism in bulk.
      Quote: abrakadabre
      They may feel freer, but whether they are freer is a big question.

      I agree:)
    2. +3
      2 September 2019 16: 03
      Quote: abrakadabre
      Pozner called the Russian Orthodox Church dark, and Russia - a country without democracy
      Let him go to the USA and try to criticize the authorities in the same way. Although ... no one will let him into the central channels. And without such a rostrum, what he can do the most is to preach democracy to the homeless in the shelter and ... uh ... blacks in Harlem by the evening fire in a barrel.
      Europe people feel freer
      They may feel freer, but whether they are freer is a big question.

      I believe that in the United States they criticize the authorities in a way that no one in Russia has ever dreamed of. There, investigations against the president have been going on for years. Trump will not let lie smile it is at least.
      And Posner is already old. He really thinks he is a superstar :) but carries a nonsense. This is also a fact.
      1. +1
        2 September 2019 16: 21
        Quote: den3080
        I believe that in the United States they criticize the authorities in a way that no one in Russia has ever dreamed of. There, investigations against the president have been going on for years. Trump will not let it lie at least.

        Yeah .. and we have Gorbachev retirement 600 tons p. receives, the Yeltsin Center was rebuilt to Yeltsin, they would be judged ... but no .. And this is very wrong, you understand the continuity .. The presidents of the presidents are afraid to judge, as if they themselves would not be condemned then ..
        1. 0
          2 September 2019 21: 14
          Quote: Svarog
          The presidents of the presidents are afraid to judge, as though they themselves would not be condemned later ..

          What kind of court? Are you losing it? They are "flesh of flesh."
      2. +2
        2 September 2019 16: 55
        No one really criticizes anything there. All the "critics" were shut up long ago who were shouting too much.
      3. +1
        2 September 2019 23: 30
        "And Posner is already old. He really thinks that he is a superstar :) but he is talking nonsense. This is also a fact."

        Yeah, for example:
        "And faith is another matter here. For example, the immaculate conception. But I am a biologist by education. Well, this does not happen. There is no immaculate conception. There is artificial insemination, whatever. But this does not happen. I say: well, how is this ? He says - it's a miracle. Ah, I say, then yes, of course, since a miracle, there is nothing to talk about. "
  7. +3
    2 September 2019 15: 38
    Novodvorskaya Nemtsov Yakovlev Yeltsin and other comrades are waiting for him in hell!)))
    1. -2
      2 September 2019 21: 14
      Quote: u4iy
      Novodvorskaya Nemtsov Yakovlev Yeltsin and other comrades are waiting for him in hell!)))

      Together with Stalin
  8. +4
    2 September 2019 15: 40
    But not a stupid person. Why is he talking such nonsense? fool
    And why does he torment himself while living in Russia?
    Born in France. Then he lived in the USA.
    Well, I would have gone to where the "light elves" in pink glasses live. crying
    1. +1
      2 September 2019 16: 56
      Here they’re making money
  9. +2
    2 September 2019 15: 41
    At the expense of the church, he definitely lied ... Our church cannot be dark, because today it is the most profitable business! It is enough to look closely at any "clergy" to understand this.
    1. +6
      2 September 2019 15: 43
      Quote: mark_rod
      He definitely lied to the church account ... Our church cannot be dark, because today it is the most profitable business!

      We will not compare the church and faith, it was walked precisely by faith.
      1. 0
        2 September 2019 17: 42
        It was just about the church.
        "Posner called the Russian Orthodox Church" dark "
  10. +4
    2 September 2019 15: 41
    It is better for a Pozner to leave Russia once and for all, he is not a Russian citizen in his worldview, so why torture himself, he seems to have no our citizenship
    1. +3
      2 September 2019 16: 24
      Quote: Graz
      he is not a Russian by his perception of the world,

      So then all the "elite" need to collect money for us .. they, in my opinion, are also according to the outlook, and many also according to the second citizenship, they are not Russians at all ..
    2. +2
      2 September 2019 21: 17
      Quote: Graz
      he is not a Russian by his perception of the world,

      And there is no such thing as "Russian by attitude", there is Russian, and the Russian is a new word from the 90s, by the way, your beloved Yeltsin was one of the first to use it.
      1. +1
        2 September 2019 21: 25
        Pozner is Jewish by father and French by mother, so he, by definition, cannot be ethnic Russian
  11. 0
    2 September 2019 15: 42
    Well, good riddance. I'm tired of all these poznereshejakimakarevichs. But no, here everyone is sitting and bile spitting on a country that feeds them all for some reason ..
    1. 0
      2 September 2019 21: 19
      Quote: Destiny
      which feeds them all for some reason ..

      They feed themselves, but officials pouring dirt on citizens and stealing the budget just get their salaries from our deductions!
  12. +1
    2 September 2019 15: 44
    Where exactly in Europe do they feel freer: perhaps in France and Belgium, where terrorist attacks in the past few years are in the tens, and victims in the hundreds - freedom is now measured in terrorist attacks? All the same, stupid propagandists are a disaster for the country. USSR- an example (((
    1. -2
      2 September 2019 16: 57
      What is this “freedom” anyway? However, this is some kind of chimera ...
      1. -3
        2 September 2019 21: 19
        Quote: Cottodraton
        What is this “freedom” anyway? However, this is some kind of chimera ...

        Slave does not understand, unfortunately
        1. +1
          3 September 2019 04: 23
          The excuse is standard, liberal. You are constantly rushing from one extreme to another and want this and that, but nothing concrete. Therefore, I came to the conclusion that your concept of "freedom" is a chimera, something mythical. You yourself don't know what it is
        2. 0
          3 September 2019 12: 58
          We are not slaves, we are not slaves.
  13. +2
    2 September 2019 15: 45
    Well, what else can this SHLEMAZL hiss. Posner, in spite of the fact that he is "VVP", sorry in advance, a bag of shit. He was the very first in the USSR from the TV screen began to shit in the brains of people, pour crap on our country, a rotten-ass echidna. A bag on the head and to the "Sharia quarters" of his very beloved London.
    In general, colleagues have a proposal to create a section "tales from the crypt" (well, or "miracles in a sieve", etc.) and there to throw off news from all sorts of non-brothers, "faces" like Posner, Tribals, liberals and gay Europeans, well, in general, from everything European (and near) bestiality. So we are with you - "Voennoye Obozreniye", let's talk about weapons, wars, military history, technology, etc. And in the section with these eccentrics (with the letter M), take your soul away, swear Well, in the sense of scolding, but just bawling, running elephants in the china shop.
    1. +5
      2 September 2019 15: 48
      Quote: Popov Konstantin Ivanovich
      He was the very first in the USSR from the TV screen began to spoil people’s brains, shit our country, rotten-footed echidna.

      Together with the famous "patriot" Mr. Solovyov, they worked at the radio station "Silver Rain" and conducted author's programs. Only one weather vane was repainted, while the other remained true to itself.
      1. +1
        2 September 2019 17: 26
        Mr. Solovyov worked at the radio station "Silver Rain" and conducted author's programs

        Gordon forgot hi
        1. +2
          2 September 2019 17: 40
          Quote: Vadim02rus
          Mr. Solovyov worked at the radio station "Silver Rain" and conducted author's programs

          Gordon forgot hi

          Yes, he forgot, and he was there, and they listened.
  14. +5
    2 September 2019 15: 47
    What does this creature have to do with military review?
  15. -4
    2 September 2019 15: 49
    Why else did the ROC not anathematize this Posner? The ROC should not be called "dark" just because it is more economically efficient than the Catholic and Protestant churches in the West.
    1. -5
      2 September 2019 16: 00
      Why has the ROC not anathematized this Posner?

      Yes, because the Russian Orthodox Church is led by a person who, in essence, is not able to rule, but is very convenient to the authorities.
    2. -1
      2 September 2019 21: 20
      Quote: TTLS
      Why has the ROC not anathematized this Posner?

      Because Posner is not baptized laughing
  16. -4
    2 September 2019 15: 50
    When this one dies ...
  17. +1
    2 September 2019 15: 51
    Pozner - ALIEN in Russia, it is a lot of honor to discuss his fabrications.
  18. +2
    2 September 2019 15: 52
    According to Vladimir Pozner, who remembered the European Charter of Liberties of 1215, "in Europe, already in the XIII century, the power of the king was limited"
    .Well, we have already passed, the will was, but terrible. Various centennial, thirty-year, religious and even different wars there, which coughed up over the full population of Europe. It is especially noteworthy that in Russia there were no such horrors until the beginning of the 20 century]. In general, it is time to drive from television this alien man with an alien ideology.
  19. +5
    2 September 2019 15: 53
    Dark she, the Russian Orthodox Church. Against gays, against drugs, against pedophilia. The West has already been enlightened. The church there is zero without a wand.
    1. +5
      2 September 2019 16: 05
      Quote: Moskovit
      Dark she, the Russian Orthodox Church. Against gays, against drugs, against pedophilia. The West has already been enlightened. The church there is zero without a wand.

      You add a smiley face, otherwise the people here are harsh, many people skip school on the day of knowledge and, accordingly, do not understand sarcasm.
      1. +3
        2 September 2019 17: 40
        Yes, I will survive the minus). Or maybe it's the opponents of the Russian Orthodox Church, those who are for gays, pedophilia and drugs))
  20. +1
    2 September 2019 15: 58
    And the point is to discuss in VO, the squeaky female Chihuahua, who regularly crap in the apartment where she lives.
  21. +2
    2 September 2019 15: 59
    The old senile already survives completely out of his mind, it is necessary to drive him and the like from everywhere.
  22. +1
    2 September 2019 15: 59
    Yes, it’s just you who are comrade Posner.
    As Khodas said, if you are dark then I will enlighten you.
    Go to your next homeland and don’t be foolish!
  23. 0
    2 September 2019 16: 11
    And why the hell Posner is still in Russia, good riddance to the western shit democracy, maybe some migrant will taunt him with a bald stupidity.
  24. -2
    2 September 2019 16: 13
    For Russia, democracy and freedom are harmful. Feudalism and a strong hand of the feudal lord are necessary.
  25. +1
    2 September 2019 16: 15
    I forgot to add this miracle that Russia is recognized as the most uncomfortable state for LGBT people.
    1. 0
      4 September 2019 19: 47
      Two against, along the way, LGBT supporters have a tut. laughing
  26. -2
    2 September 2019 16: 16
    Renegade, but not Kautsky.
  27. -2
    2 September 2019 16: 22
    You know colleagues! I don’t presume to discuss the Russian Orthodox Church, this is not mine! But, Posner?!?! Who is he and who is his name? !!!? (To blame, nothing personal !! +).
  28. -1
    2 September 2019 16: 22
    and who is he to discuss him seriously? bully
    Moreover, he also does not know the history of Russia - the tsar’s power was limited to the Boyar Duma and the Patriarch ...
    1. -1
      2 September 2019 16: 49
      What are you, what are you .... He is a very important TV-acadEmik)
  29. +2
    2 September 2019 16: 23
    There are beautiful words about elections and democracy attributed to Margarita Simonyan. The VO code does not allow to quote him. I will be less cruel. If there was real democracy in Russia, such "famous TV presenters" would starve to death from worthlessness.
    This rude type constantly teaches us how to live, complains about everything and climbs with "his own charter" in a foreign country.
    1. +2
      2 September 2019 16: 31
      Taki Posner forgot to mention bonfires in the Middle Ages, the Jesuits and the Inquisition, that is, the sources of Light.
      1. -2
        2 September 2019 21: 22
        Quote: Ugolek
        Taki Posner forgot to mention bonfires in the Middle Ages, the Jesuits and the Inquisition, that is, the sources of Light.

        Pohner poher both on the Russian Orthodox Church and on the Catholics, so your comment is nothing
  30. -1
    2 September 2019 16: 29
    Democracy is the power of democrats.
  31. -3
    2 September 2019 16: 30
    Do you want European freedom?
    stop the car on the German autobahn, open the hood and try, for example, to tighten the battery mount more firmly. They will quickly explain to you how free you are and how much the fine is required to pay.
    There is freedom in Europe, of course, but not everywhere. For example, in Montenegro or the Czech Republic, it is more likely to exist.
    But in Estonia, Germany, England, France, Switzerland, freedom is only for the very rich.
  32. 0
    2 September 2019 16: 32
    It would be necessary for citizen Pozner to shelter a couple of immigrants at home ... And then everything is somehow unfounded) You look, the world will sparkle with new colors for him)
  33. 0
    2 September 2019 16: 32
    This nonsense can not understand (and, most likely, this is his task, as a representative of Judaism, ALWAYS fighting Christianity), that the Orthodox Church, as pure and preserving the integrity of the Canons of the Faith, which does not allow sodomy, pederasty, incest, bestiality , the fighting of all kinds is the only stronghold not yet defeated by the Satanism of the West. Such disciples of Satan need all that is being done THERE boldly from the face of the Earth and us.
    1. +2
      2 September 2019 17: 59
      Whoa whoa. God's servant, take it easy.
      The Orthodox Church, as the canons of the Faith clean and preserving the integrity

      What kind of Orthodox Church are we talking about? The case is not about the one that is called the ROC? Then I have to upset. If Google is not banned, then you can read about pedagogy and pedophilia in the "pure" and "canonical" Russian Orthodox Church. And also all kinds of things - Mercedes, yachts, jets, villas, full-fledged business.
      And the fact that frank candidacies with bloodied hands and thieving officials go to confess in the ROC priests, yes, this stronghold is not defeated by Satanism.
  34. gel
    +2
    2 September 2019 16: 33
    Posner is an ordinary worm. Homeland is where you can eat hearty.
    England must be a model of democracy for him
    Fans of British "democracy" read and cry (Rogers)
    https://glav.su/blog/34014/1404483/
  35. +2
    2 September 2019 16: 38
    Maybe there is no democracy in it because the power in the entire media space has been planting all kinds of partners for over 30 years?
    and in general because the power of the Russian Federation is related to the partners?
  36. -6
    2 September 2019 16: 40
    I offer Posner to shoot. And at the same time, some commentators on VO.
    1. 0
      2 September 2019 16: 50
      Quote: Victoria-In
      I offer Posner to shoot. And at the same time, some commentators on VO.

      Why shoot? We are not animals.
      Let them work in the far north and in mines
      1. 0
        2 September 2019 21: 25
        Quote: Lontus
        Quote: Victoria-In
        I offer Posner to shoot. And at the same time, some commentators on VO.

        Why shoot? We are not animals.
        Let them work in the far north and in mines

        I will upset you, unlike the Stalin era, there is a lot of automation in the mines, and those people who work there earn very good money, you are 80 years behind life
  37. +2
    2 September 2019 16: 41
    According to Vladimir Pozner, who remembered the European Charter of Liberties of 1215, "in Europe, already in the XIII century, the power of the king was limited"

    After the king’s power was limited ... all kinds of Napoleons, Hitlers, Franco, Mussolini came to anything that didn’t limit themselves, and now there’s big capital, which spins the parliaments, presidents, courts and law enforcement agencies as he wants. In other words, the restriction of the monarchs turned into impunity for those who limited them in their favor.
  38. 0
    2 September 2019 16: 42
    Hmm ... A light of culture or what? I ask his petition, how is the contribution to our culture measured? Hours of air? Who is he (together with Solovyov and Skobeeva) to judge us ??? maddened "Moscow" philosophers? Get out of the hut ...
  39. +1
    2 September 2019 16: 45
    I do not remember that the "dark ROC" organized crusades or lived "witches" ... But the "Light Catholics" ...
    1. +1
      2 September 2019 21: 22
      Quote: Cottodraton
      I don’t remember that the "dark ROC" organized crusades

      Why don’t you like the Crusades? Muslims at that time had already captured almost half of the Christian world and moved on (the Middle East and North Africa, once Christian territories). Allahakbartsev had to be stopped at all costs. In the end, they stopped. It’s bad that I couldn’t get my back (with the exception of Spain).
  40. 0
    2 September 2019 16: 46
    Let them not live with their "freedom" themselves, do not go to us! To me, too, expert-polystranets! He has no homeland, a country that regrets about him! So he is furious, like everyone who is plucked from here!
  41. +1
    2 September 2019 16: 58
    If there was Internet in the 30s, this would be what bullying enemies of the people would look like. No, I’m not for Posner. But if you are for Putin. then take the country as it suits Vladimir Vladimirovich. After all, it’s under Putin that Posner feels at ease, it’s with him on TV the dominance of crested analysts. This Kremlin contains ehomoskva. So what are you unhappy with?
  42. +2
    2 September 2019 17: 00
    Jewish Posner called the Russian Orthodox Church
    The “dark” Russian Orthodox Church, adding that it is “much darker than the Catholic and Protestant”
    .
    If I now name .... (a certain God-chosen ...), then I will immediately get an "anti-Semite", and maybe a blockage, etc., because "this causes ethnic strife." What is the name of the country in which we live?
  43. +3
    2 September 2019 17: 06
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    America cannot be taken away - power there can be criticized quite freely. And on television this criticism in bulk.

    If you are a "kosher" critic. From outside the Irish mafia families, it is deadly to criticize, accidentally a police officer will shoot and be right.
    Or maybe not a cop. In 1980, in the USA, in front of dozens of people, in the presence of color television, 4 Native American activists were shot dead at a rally. Six times, the courts tried to re-judge, but the verdict did not change - the farmers correctly shot the Indians buzzing outside the reservation.
  44. -4
    2 September 2019 17: 10
    I would advise Pozdner to keep an eye on his wailing wall ...
  45. 0
    2 September 2019 17: 16
    Yeah! I came to the conclusion that he doesn’t eat and that he’s better not to be! Now we’re thinking !!!! What the hell is this body doing on the main TV channel ?????
  46. +1
    2 September 2019 17: 24
    "He called the Russian Orthodox Church" dark ", apparently because in Russia the attitudes of church culture and morality are still strong. I judge by the local church, a lot of young people come in, but I cannot say that they are so religious. All the same, 21st century.
    1. -1
      2 September 2019 17: 33
      ROC? Judging by alexi
  47. +2
    2 September 2019 17: 29
    The whole message of Mr. Pozner is clearly aimed at reflecting on the “saints” 90, when anarchy reigned in Russia (or rather, the oligarchs tore at each other amid manual control from the USA), when the country was torn apart by war in the Caucasus, but the West liked us so much.


    Proof at least some possible? And it’s like wishful thinking.
  48. -1
    2 September 2019 17: 37
    "How dare you, insolent, with an unclean snout
    Here is a pure stir up drink
    My....."

    Here, after all, Posner and the fruit.
    Not even a fruit, but a bug.
    Both small and smelly.

    Let's compare the "merits" of the Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran churches in the fight against heretics, witches and other scum of society.
    And then compare with the activities of the Orthodox.
    And then we conclude - who is more dense?
    Does the Inquisition bonfire make the Catholic Church more civilized?
    Maybe it was worth being more dense?
  49. +3
    2 September 2019 17: 50
    If you don’t like it here, don’t work and don’t live here.
  50. +1
    2 September 2019 17: 52
    Oh, Orthodoxy would not have touched a Gentile.
  51. 0
    2 September 2019 17: 55
    What TV presenter is this? This is a person who shows up on our TV with US citizenship. I have not met a single person who even spoke positively about such figures. Why does the state tolerate them?
  52. +1
    2 September 2019 17: 56
    drive this muskrat out of Russia with a filthy broom
  53. +4
    2 September 2019 18: 02
    Quote: Phil77
    ROC? Judging by alexi

    The dark ones are not the Churches. Dark personalities who understand nothing about religion.
    The Church must be judged not by priests or any high positions, but by the Creator. Taking an example from a person is making a mistake. Take your example from Jesus Christ.

    I see you are not a believer. Then, especially for you, I will prove in 4 words that the Soul exists.
    Based on a purely scientific basis.
    1. Biofield.
    2. Law.
    3. Save.
    4. Energy.
    Put these concepts together and it will become clear to you that the Biofield is eternal.
    And who said that this is not the Soul, because all our thoughts, experiences, desires and fears are imprinted in the biofield. And who said that no one, anywhere, will ever be able to read your biofield, having learned absolutely everything about you?
  54. +2
    2 September 2019 18: 12
    Quote: 777-3-59-97
    Whoa whoa. God's servant, take it easy.
    The Orthodox Church, as the canons of the Faith clean and preserving the integrity

    What kind of Orthodox Church are we talking about? The case is not about the one that is called the ROC? Then I have to upset. If Google is not banned, then you can read about pedagogy and pedophilia in the "pure" and "canonical" Russian Orthodox Church. And also all kinds of things - Mercedes, yachts, jets, villas, full-fledged business.
    And the fact that frank candidacies with bloodied hands and thieving officials go to confess in the ROC priests, yes, this stronghold is not defeated by Satanism.

    The church is not made of logs. It's in the ribs.
    Only a complete idiot who understands nothing and judges by the cost of the hierarch’s watch can say such a thing. How are they different from you? NOTHING. You judge others, but strive to cheat on occasion. So how are you, a sinner and fallen low, different from those who put on vestments and utter words without believing in them?
    Did you understand the words written at the beginning?
    The church is in you, but not in the house, even with a golden roof. Or is there emptiness in you too? No Faith? Everything depends on you. But not from others, no matter who they are.

    Seraphim of Sarov said that there is no need to save the world. Save yourself, and thousands around you will be saved. Be solely responsible for yourself. And only so.
  55. 0
    2 September 2019 18: 32
    Again some kind of Russophobic evil spirits are being quoted on the pages of VO. It would be nice if he told me something about weapons, i.e. according to the subject of the site. And then, bad luck, a morally deficient person blathered something against the Russian Federation or the Russian Orthodox Church and immediately it was in the Military Review news...
  56. +3
    2 September 2019 18: 37
    Oh, how the “urya-patricks” attacked Pozdner! I myself am far from a fan of his, rather the opposite, but essentially he is right. And the author, in the style of the “Eat Russia” party, scares us with immigrants in Europe, otherwise we do not have Muslims from the CIS, and there are no areas where they are densely populated. And the fact that our riot police apply a baton to the back more affectionately than in France does not change the essence of using KGO to disperse those who disagree with the authorities..
    In general, the author got to the point! We have arbitrary power. We wanted to work for five years longer, but they didn’t allow us to hold a referendum. They wanted VAT and increased it, people are gobbling it up. The Europeans were given 55 million euros for their absence from PACE, and the people themselves will raise money for the treatment of children via SMS. And in the countryside, we will also tolerate closed first aid stations and reduced district hospitals. The main thing is that our Burevesnik finally flies!

    And I’ll say to the cheers, go “free” people, try to organize a protest rally on your own, or at least appeal the arbitrariness of the official to his superior!
    One of my employees, having watched enough of Direct Line to Putin, wrote a complaint, and so the answer to him went down the stairs and I wrote a draft answer!!! This is such a calico!
  57. 0
    2 September 2019 18: 38
    stop Bring him back to "free", "democratic" Europe. It can even be forced. angry
  58. +1
    2 September 2019 18: 52
    Quote: kiril1246
    Frenchman with Jewish roots

    Posner is a Jew (on his father's side) with French roots (on his mother's side), baptized at birth according to the Catholic rite.

    My father emigrated from the RSFSR in 1920, and from France with his family in 1941. In the USA he worked in the management of the film company Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, and from 1943 - in the Russian section of the cinematography department of the US War Department, where he was recruited by Soviet intelligence. In 1948 he went to East Germany, where he began working in the Soyuzexportfilm system. In 1952 he returned to the USSR.
  59. +2
    2 September 2019 18: 55
    Defending the West’s position on the issue of democracy and religion, TV presenter Vladimir Pozner, as always, only says the half, that which is beneficial to him. So, no one particularly disputes democracy in Saudi Arabia and religion suits them all in the West, although they can be stoned there for treason, well that’s such little things compared to Russia......................
  60. -1
    2 September 2019 18: 58
    Like he's wrong
  61. +2
    2 September 2019 19: 23
    Quote: Tatiana
    immediately after graduating from Moscow State University (and Pozner entered there in 1953 and graduated under Khrushchev), V. Pozner was appointed head of Foreign Broadcasting (then radio)

    Immediately after graduating from Moscow State University, Posner worked as a translator of foreign literature. Since 1961 - employee of the editorial staff of APN, magazines "USSR", "Soviet Life" and "Sputnik". Since 1970, he has been a commentator on foreign broadcasting at the USSR State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company.

    There is no need to make mountains out of molehills.
    1. 0
      3 September 2019 13: 14
      Professionalism does not always give the right to claim the position of chief ideologist.
  62. +2
    2 September 2019 19: 50
    Quote: Cottodraton
    I do not remember that the "dark ROC" organized crusades or lived "witches" ... But the "Light Catholics" ...

    but the Old Believers (if anything, these are not those mythical pre-Christians and the calendar 7 thousand years from the creation of the world) were burned in the baths without hesitation, and not only that. Everything was fine with us.
  63. +3
    2 September 2019 20: 06
    Quote: kiril1246
    Quote: Tatiana
    Ha! A Frenchman with Jewish roots is the same as a French Jew.

    Why invent some kind of universe of your own, where a Frenchman with Jewish roots == a Frenchman Jew. A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Judaism (Giyur), regardless of where he lives, in France, Russia or Israel. Posner does not satisfy this rule. His mother is a Frenchwoman who baptized him into Catholicism as a child. According to Jewish law, he is not a Jew, and you can consider him whoever you want, even Buryat.
    Quote: Tatiana
    Those. the Posner family was so difficult that in the unofficial "table of ranks" it seemed to be at the level of members of the CPSU Central Committee.

    Well, the Pozner family was probably not easy if his dad had worked for Soviet intelligence for so many years.

    The father, a Soviet intelligence officer (?????????), may well have an offspring with a pronounced anti-Russian and anti-Russian nature.
    I look at some ....... even in the first generation there are such changelings, it’s amazing. Pashinin, Serebryakov, the same Kasparov....And what can we say about generations already so distant.
  64. +2
    2 September 2019 20: 19
    Quote: kiril1246
    Quote: Tatiana
    Ha! A Frenchman with Jewish roots is the same as a French Jew.

    Why invent some kind of universe of your own, where a Frenchman with Jewish roots == a Frenchman Jew. A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Judaism (Giyur), regardless of where he lives, in France, Russia or Israel. Posner does not satisfy this rule. His mother is a Frenchwoman who baptized him into Catholicism as a child. According to Jewish law, he is not a Jew, and you can consider him whoever you want, even Buryat.
    Quote: Tatiana
    Those. the Posner family was so difficult that in the unofficial "table of ranks" it seemed to be at the level of members of the CPSU Central Committee.

    Well, the Pozner family was probably not easy if his dad had worked for Soviet intelligence for so many years.

    Don’t meddle in someone else’s biography with your own fabrications. Everyone has the right to consider themselves whoever they want. It is not genetic affiliation that is important, but political beliefs. In front of the purebred Jew Yakov Kedmi is ready to stand at attention with his hat off. And Ariel Cohen is ready to hang. Both of them WERE ours. One remained OURS, and the other, a bastard, is ready to spoil his former homeland, which gave him everything.
  65. -2
    2 September 2019 20: 34
    - "Famous TV presenter Vladimir Pozner..."
    Why not start like this - A famous Jew with three!!! citizenships.
    Or here: - “... Posner called the Russian Orthodox Church “dark,” adding that it is “much darker than the Catholic and Protestant.”
    The question naturally arises, which one is light? Jewish? The boy is driving bullshit. a Jew he is a Jew.
  66. -2
    2 September 2019 20: 49
    Pozner called the Russian Orthodox Church dark, and Russia - a country without democracy

    What, that’s not true?! It’s 100% true, jingoism doesn’t allow you to just admit it.
    1. 0
      3 September 2019 13: 21
      It’s one thing to advocate for the promotion of truly democratic reforms (and not pseudo ones), but quite another to be offended by the fact that the “overstaying” government does not allow a riot in the country.
  67. +1
    2 September 2019 21: 12
    This spring I visited a foreign land for the first time, namely Europe. I spent most of my time in the Bavarian region, what can I say, I can say that we are more FREE here, as long as you don’t piss against the wind.
    1. 0
      4 September 2019 12: 46
      Well, if the pressure is strong, then why not piss?
  68. 0
    2 September 2019 21: 34
    The other day, the British queen, not giving a damn about the “European” Carta of 1215, dissolved the local parliament without holding elections: like, there’s no point in introducing some kind of democracy here.

    Previously, all as one Protestant churches of the world not only began to sanctify same-sex marriages, but also began to ordain open adherents of same-sex relationships as priests: like “condemnation in the Bible of sodomite sin - no, we haven’t heard of it.”

    And so yes - the truth is spoken by a former employee of the Soviet foreign broadcasting, secretary of the primary organization of the CPSU, a cross-atheist, a patriot with three citizenships, making money on Russian TV: the dark Russian Orthodox Church (disgusting sodomites) and there is no democracy in Russia (nobody dissolves the Federal Assembly ) laughing
  69. 3vs
    +2
    2 September 2019 21: 48
    Professor A.I. Osipov about Posner - the cause of all Russia's troubles?

  70. +1
    2 September 2019 21: 57
    When they take this old man where he needs to go.... I catch myself thinking that the nastier the “comrade”, the more things he has done = the longer they live...
  71. +1
    2 September 2019 22: 19
    Quote: lucul
    Well, no one is holding Mr. Posner here.

    I have been installing on Pozner for a long time - either very badly, or not at all.
    Therefore - no way .....

    So he's not dead yet.
    So, it is quite morally possible to speak badly.
  72. +3
    2 September 2019 22: 32
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Lontus
    Quote: Victoria-In
    I offer Posner to shoot. And at the same time, some commentators on VO.

    Why shoot? We are not animals.
    Let them work in the far north and in mines

    I will upset you, unlike the Stalin era, there is a lot of automation in the mines, and those people who work there earn very good money, you are 80 years behind life

    I will really upset you. This will NEVER go away from mining.




    Only a complete idiot from a Soviet party school can claim that automation has come to the mines.
    1. 0
      3 September 2019 20: 10
      Bravo! Let's drink to those who took a full sip of gas.
  73. 0
    2 September 2019 22: 45
    Quote: Normal ok
    Pozner called the Russian Orthodox Church dark, and Russia - a country without democracy

    What, that’s not true?! It’s 100% true, jingoism doesn’t allow you to just admit it.











  74. +2
    3 September 2019 03: 11
    Posner once again betrays himself... reveals that he is a foreigner, has not become Russian and will never become one. And regarding the “more enlightened” Catholic or, especially, Protestant churches... then maybe! After all, only in “enlightened” “temples” they sing psalms in rock style and to rock music! They read prayers in “rap” style! They can marry gays, lesbians and... animals (!)... just pay in full! So you can't argue with that!
    1. +1
      3 September 2019 08: 59
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      didn't become Russian

      But he was never Russian, he was baptized in Catholicism, what else can you expect from such people? request
  75. -1
    3 September 2019 05: 28
    Quote: Wend
    Pozner said that in Europe people feel freer than in Russia
    Well, no one keeps Go-na Posner here. Now is not the "iron curtain", go and live in a free country.

    people like this liberal abroad are very quick to point to their shitty craphole!!! They don’t like people like that, running all over the world and teaching everyone how to live.
  76. 0
    3 September 2019 05: 33
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    When they take this old man where he needs to go.... I catch myself thinking that the nastier the “comrade”, the more things he has done = the longer they live...

    Apparently you are talking about the tagged Gorbachev!7
  77. -1
    3 September 2019 05: 48
    Why didn’t the Americans appreciate Comrade Posner?! I ran around the world, picked up Vershkov and started being clever - who are you? actually?!!!
  78. 0
    3 September 2019 07: 13
    Old ! And he’s right there! What, they pay more for the race against Russia? And who is he after that!? Don't give, don't take - corrupt!
  79. 0
    3 September 2019 07: 54
    Oh, once again they wrote that Posner has several citizenships. And the fact that the same Peskov’s daughter lives over the hill, and like most high-ranking bureaucrats, we can’t even write a word about the family itself.
    Posner is a hundred times smarter than the author of this opus
  80. 0
    3 September 2019 08: 54
    This Posner would go much further from Russia, where he likes it better, and Russia would immediately become a little cleaner... But he probably won’t leave, such individuals can only earn money in Russia, in other places, they’re unlikely to pay him that much . IMHO
  81. +4
    3 September 2019 09: 32
    Posner is a piece of talking feces, which Russophobes regularly, once every three to four months, throw at the fan. His plan is to promote the sexless madness of the West and portray the “voice of truth” from the designated “Mordor”. One problem: practically no one reacts to this verbose trash, which significantly affects the tariff rate for bringing “progressive views” to the masses. If the government had been at least a little less Western-shitty, then he would have been guaranteed an unbreakable pick as a striker of Siberian spears. At best, I would interview trash cans in Harlem. He was never worth attention, because he is superficial in his views, kitchen-ignorant in essence, cautiously verbose in his conclusions.
  82. +1
    3 September 2019 09: 56
    Posner must be sent to the USA. He has citizenship there - so let him eat democracy with a spoonful.
  83. +1
    3 September 2019 12: 34
    A slobbering asshole and a shameless liar, who knows very well that the highest level of democracy in Russia was during the reign of Ivan IV. It was Ivan Vasilyevich who abolished the boyar freemen, replaced the voivodship feeding with elected “governors” and introduced a jury trial, with elected judges and responsible observers from all classes.

    And in general, why the hell is this WESTERN democracy needed if it can only exist by robbing neighbors and slave labor, which has been proven many times by history?
  84. +1
    3 September 2019 15: 19
    Quote: Cottodraton
    What is this “freedom” anyway? However, this is some kind of chimera ...

    This concept of freedom has long been defined.
    It's a pity you don't read serious literature.
    "Freedom is a CONSCIOUS necessity."
    Freedom is not talking all sorts of crap, thinking that the Internet will not allow you to find out the author, not banditry on the streets under the cover of a mask on your face.
  85. +1
    3 September 2019 17: 11
    Late guano likes to mix with butter.
  86. 0
    3 September 2019 18: 28
    It's time to ask Mr. Posner who he works for?
  87. +1
    3 September 2019 20: 02
    These are the fruits of the fact that buffoons receive millions, just like all sorts of football players - who are also buffoons. After which they begin to consider themselves the navel of the Earth. Shouldn’t such useful people be deprived of their citizenship?
  88. +1
    3 September 2019 23: 41
    Quote: Cottodraton
    I do not remember that the "dark ROC" organized crusades or lived "witches" ... But the "Light Catholics" ...

    In Leningrad (then the city was called that), in the Museum of Religion and Atheism (in the Kazan Cathedral) there was an exhibition of instruments of inquiry and torture of enlightened Europe. These are all sorts of iron things, tearing jaws, tearing stomachs, squeezing legs, stretching spines.....
    A fond memory. This Posner needs to be brought there, handcuffed to the torture table and kept there for a week without food or water. Putting a torture helmet on your head, which is a perforated structure with a beak on the front part and does not allow you to eat or drink. So that he fully understands what the bright, enlightened Catholic Church can do with people.
  89. +2
    4 September 2019 04: 54
    no one is holding .. there is nothing for his soul))) we don’t mind)) there are fewer lousy ones like that))) we are better off
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  91. 0
    4 September 2019 12: 55
    How long can you print his pearls?
  92. 0
    4 September 2019 13: 23
    Rubber product No. 2 this...ner! They also pay him money!
    It's time to thin out the broadcast, it's getting late!