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Venezuelan Parliament repeals warship agreement with Russia

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The Venezuelan parliament, which was basically controlled by American forces, held a vote on the issue of military cooperation between Caracas and Moscow.


Venezuelan Parliament repeals warship agreement with Russia


We are talking about a signed agreement between Venezuela and Russia, which provides for free visits of warships to the ports of the two countries. The document was signed by the heads of the defense departments of the two countries - Vladimir Padrino Lopez and Sergey Shoigu during the Moscow meeting on August 15. It also provides for the deepening of military-technical cooperation.

The National Assembly of Venezuela, led by the notorious Juan Guaido, performed the go-ahead from Washington and announced the cancellation of the agreement. At the same time, parliamentarians from the camp of Guaido said that "they cancel the agreement because of its unconstitutionality."

The National Assembly added that the agreement was not proposed for consideration by the relevant committees, and therefore "is not valid."

Interesting, it turns out, the position of individual representatives of the Venezuelan parliament. Attempts to illegally legitimize Guaido himself as a “president” without “discussion in specialized committees”, failure to comply with decisions of the Attorney General’s office, support for unauthorized rallies and protests against funds delivered from the United States are “constitutional,” and signing an inter-agency document aimed at security "Unconstitutional." In this regard, the question of the constitutionality of decisions taken by the Venezuelan parliament itself arises.
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 27 August 2019 06: 02
    +6
    Venezuelan Parliament repeals warship agreement with Russia
    here are those ... hell in a tomato ... fellow one parliament banned the fascinatington, the other, as if Madurovsky allowed it ... and also, we, as a bae, were counting on places like "Iskander" if there was something to settle .. maybe not ask anyone at all?
    1. PalBor
      PalBor 27 August 2019 06: 20
      +15
      What is most interesting, even Iskander is not needed. The MTR group and that's it.
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 27 August 2019 06: 26
      -23
      In vain they did so, now the Russian Federation will not negotiate with them
      1. Maz
        Maz 27 August 2019 20: 44
        -3
        Wise guy, you should consider that the oil reserves in Venezuela are the largest in the world. three hundred and six billion, against two hundred and sixty billion in Saudi Arabia.
        1. Yujiko
          Yujiko 28 August 2019 02: 13
          +3
          Maz. That was sarcasm. They say that Russia will not negotiate with the opposition of Venezuela, the humor is that we are not negotiating with it anyway, and nothing changes from the opposition’s statement.
          Patriots scare me without a sense of elementary humor. With such jokes it is better not to tell.
        2. Karabas
          Karabas 28 August 2019 14: 19
          +1
          Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world. three hundred and six billion, against two hundred and sixty billion in Saudi Arabia.

          But oil is not equivalent. In Venezuela, it is bitumen; they called it oil only for the media.
    3. Atilla
      Atilla 27 August 2019 06: 27
      -73
      A good slap in the face to Putin and Shoigu.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 27 August 2019 06: 37
        +6
        Yeah, they licked well the staff ... Yes, and took a step closer to the bunk. However, Manduro is not Chavez. Alas.
        1. atalef
          atalef 27 August 2019 08: 22
          -29
          Quote: 210ox
          Yeah, they licked well the staff ... Yes, and took a step closer to the bunk. However, Manduro is not Chavez. Alas.

          Actually, the parliament is chosen by the people.
          Does anyone have a doubt about this?
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 27 August 2019 10: 13
            +21
            atalef (alexander) Today, 08: 22 NEW
            Quote: 210ox
            Yeah, they licked well the staff ... Yes, and took a step closer to the bunk. However, Manduro is not Chavez. Alas.


            Actually, the parliament is chosen by the people.
            Does anyone have a doubt about this?

            that is, if our deputies commit atrocities in the field of legislation, is this also the will of the people? belay
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 08
              -11
              And what kind of atrocities do they do, I wonder?
            2. bayard
              bayard 27 August 2019 11: 15
              +10
              The United States is preparing a naval blockade of Venezuela, so they have prepared a "legislative framework" for them - not to let the Russian fleet with missiles go. And in general, do not let anyone in.
              1. atalef
                atalef 27 August 2019 13: 10
                -6
                Quote: bayard
                The United States is preparing a naval blockade of Venezuela, so they have prepared a "legislative framework" for them - not to let the Russian fleet with missiles go. And in general, do not let anyone in.

                Where did the firewood come from about the blockade?
                1. bayard
                  bayard 27 August 2019 17: 35
                  +2
                  A certain American admiral boasted that everything was ready for the blockade, exercises were held (off the coast of Brazil) and everything was rehearsed. So there are at least three regional conflicts on the agenda in the "on the eve" stage ... four:
                  - in Venezuela
                  - in the Persian Gulf
                  - Indo-Pakistani
                  - Well, in the Donbass, with Ukraine.
            3. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 27 August 2019 17: 06
              +2
              that is, if our deputies commit atrocities in the field of legislation, is this also the will of the people?

              Of course. You have selected them.
              1. rumel
                rumel 28 August 2019 08: 19
                0
                Quote: Alex Justice
                that is, if our deputies commit atrocities in the field of legislation, is this also the will of the people?

                Of course. You have selected them.

                Not us, but you!
            4. atalef
              atalef 28 August 2019 06: 06
              0
              Quote: Ka-52
              atalef (alexander) Today, 08: 22 NEW
              Quote: 210ox
              Yeah, they licked well the staff ... Yes, and took a step closer to the bunk. However, Manduro is not Chavez. Alas.


              Actually, the parliament is chosen by the people.
              Does anyone have a doubt about this?

              that is, if our deputies commit atrocities in the field of legislation, is this also the will of the people? belay

              Of course, you elected them, and re-elected many, or are they also controlled by the State Department?
          2. Thompson
            Thompson 27 August 2019 10: 25
            +2
            In our country he is also chosen by the people and ... are we very satisfied?
            1. shahor
              shahor 27 August 2019 11: 24
              +1
              Quote: Thompson
              he, too, is chosen by us as a people and ... are we very pleased?

              Well, in the year 21, the election is in our hands!
          3. TokarevT
            TokarevT 27 August 2019 10: 55
            +3
            The only question is what kind of people? And so, yes, definitely organized by a large group of subjects related to this territory, exactly.
          4. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 08
            0
            Yes, and the president too. In Latin America, presidents are stronger than parliaments. Maybe with the exception of Panama and Costa Rica. Although in recent decades, many Latin American states have been trying to raise the role of the legislative branch of government.
          5. 210ox
            210ox 27 August 2019 13: 07
            0
            I have. Object? The experience of parliamentary elections allows me to say that. Yes, everything is well written on paper. But, forgot about the ravines ... yes
          6. axiles100682
            axiles100682 27 August 2019 13: 10
            0
            Is the form of government in Venezuela parliamentary-presidential or presidential-parliamentary? And the article is not specific in the headline says the parliament canceled the article is written part of the pro-Aramican parliamentarians of Christ. Guaido canceled the agreement
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 28 August 2019 20: 26
              0
              Venezuela belongs to the "clean" presidential republics.
          7. Kontrik
            Kontrik 27 August 2019 20: 19
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: 210ox
            Yeah, they licked well the staff ... Yes, and took a step closer to the bunk. However, Manduro is not Chavez. Alas.

            Actually, the parliament is chosen by the people.
            Does anyone have a doubt about this?

            Well, let's say I have Atalef! wink We know how you choose these "parliaments", including here ..
          8. APASUS
            APASUS 27 August 2019 22: 19
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Actually, the parliament is chosen by the people.
            Does anyone have a doubt about this?

            And then what is the interest of this people, in the breakdown of agreements? What is the profit? Or as in the Ukrainian way, I will frostbite my ears for evil mom .....................
        2. Nycomed
          Nycomed 27 August 2019 09: 03
          -26
          And what is better than Chavez?
          1. axiles100682
            axiles100682 27 August 2019 15: 04
            +6
            Chavez was not afraid to apply the right of power to violence. Chavez's positions were unshakable. He was a sharp, decisive politician. If Chavez now, Guaido would have been at least sitting.
        3. Karabas
          Karabas 28 August 2019 14: 21
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          Yeah, they licked well the staff ... Yes, and took a step closer to the bunk. However, Manduro is not Chavez. Alas.

          Not licked, but worked. The Nar question is also of interest, to see Maduro has no relics, the clowning is already tired of everyone.
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 27 August 2019 06: 38
        +13
        From whom? From Guaido Chtoli wassat
        Hto is this? belay
        1. Bacha
          Bacha 27 August 2019 06: 49
          -12
          Ssykuny !!!
      3. vmo
        vmo 27 August 2019 09: 39
        +3
        To say that you are not smart or not to say anything, why you are happy to slap you for Guado is after all a political walking corpse, a "politician" xp .... c.
      4. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 27 August 2019 10: 15
        +4
        Quote: Atilla
        A good slap in the face to Putin and Shoigu.

        Sooner rejoice. Putin, unlike you, is engaged in business. A similar situation was in Moldova.
        And where is the Moldovan Guaido today?
        "Former leader of the Democratic Party of Moldova, Vladimir Plahotniuc, announced on Tuesday that he is giving up the mandate of the deputy of the country's highest legislative body.
        “... I don’t want to work anymore in any capacity, in any of the state institutions, and today I am adding up the mandate of a parliamentary deputy,” Plahotniuc wrote on his Facebook page.
        "CHISINAU, Aug 1 - Sputnik. MPs voted to extend the term of the special commission to investigate the circumstances of the attempted anti-constitutional putsch of the Democratic Party through the Constitutional Court and the General Prosecutor's Office." https://ru.sputnik.md/politics/20190801/27087122/komissiya-po-rassledovaniyu-popytki-antikonstitucionnogo-putcha-prodolzhit-rabotu.html
        Shoigu also does not mess around:
        "The Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, arrived in Chisinau on August 24 at the invitation of the President of Moldova Igor Dodon to take part in the celebrations in honor of the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Moldova from the Nazi occupation."
        God willing and settles in Venezuela
        PS. In Russian, the surname and name are capitalized.
      5. Rey_ka
        Rey_ka 27 August 2019 12: 54
        0
        And in what a surprise there is no one especially in a hurry. If the Venisuelans want to remain the US oil barrel, let them stay. But how will they live without the USA if something suddenly happens with them?
      6. Kontrik
        Kontrik 27 August 2019 20: 22
        +1
        Quote: Atilla
        A good slap in the face to Putin and Shoigu.

        Attilla missed .. laughing Two years waiting to write this? bully
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 27 August 2019 09: 50
      -2
      Quote: Aerodrome
      here those here ... horseradish in tomato ..

      We would have to restore order with Ukraine, but in the underbelly of the United States it is problematic. ... even when he said that he would not let the US expand there .. "local analysts" laughing There is no need to be especially gifted, Russia now is not the USSR at all, even close, we can’t put things in order and Ukraine has a common history and a common border .. and there is only one people.
      1. axiles100682
        axiles100682 27 August 2019 13: 14
        0
        We will deal with Ukraine when our RSMEs are on duty in Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba. Then we will deal with Ukraine, and with missile defense in Romania and Poland.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 27 August 2019 14: 02
          -3
          Quote: axiles100682
          RSM.MY will be on duty in Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba.

          Remember the "Cuban missile crisis"? What was the intensity .. And now the United States will not allow this .. How did Deripaska take everything away? Remember? They will immediately start working with all the oligarchs in the same vein .. In general, all these are damp dreams, nothing remains of the former greatness of the USSR, they all sold ..
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 27 August 2019 14: 15
            -4
            Quote: Svarog
            ... the USA will not allow this ... nothing was left of the former greatness of the USSR, everyone sold ..

            Svarog, and you are definitely not a bot? You - and the farther, the more - become similar to Gridasov request
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 27 August 2019 17: 43
              +1
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              You - and the farther, the more - become similar to Gridasov

              Hello Roman, why are you talking about Gridasov so much? crying
              He is our bright little star on the background of foggy and sometimes boring articles on technical topics of VO, especially (I quote from memory):
              in the context of modern solutions based on new physical principles of hydro-gas-dynamic flows of the surface medium.

              I also dare to note that in recent years, his comments have been progressing with an awareness. yes
              Well, or I'm already a tavoyt. recourse
          2. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 27 August 2019 14: 51
            +1
            How did everyone take away from Deripaska?

            "The meeting of the shareholders of En +, by an overwhelming majority of votes, decided to register offshore on Oktyabrsky Island in the Kaliningrad Region.
            The securities market reacted positively to the shareholders' decision - shares rose by a third at the MB trades "
          3. axiles100682
            axiles100682 27 August 2019 14: 58
            -3
            The next Caribbean crisis is needed, in no other way. And looking at how events are developing, everything is heading towards a Caribbean crisis. I think it is generally inevitable. And there will be not just a military flight, but also not a weak economic one. All these Deripaska are not yet They touch him, and with a big Schubert the inconvenient "Deripasok" will be nationalized easily and simply without any special losses. And all these children of officials over the hill will not stop Putin if it is necessary to preserve the vertical of power and independence of the country.
      2. Sadam
        Sadam 27 August 2019 23: 15
        0
        But how do you like this as part of conspiracy theories? .... the Russians are moving along Veniswell and Trump decides around Ukraine in the light of the last crazy statements on Greenland and Denmark’s non-signing of a pipe2 which, having taken offense, should start the pipe in the near future ???
    5. Karabas
      Karabas 28 August 2019 14: 16
      0
      here are those here ... hell in a tomato ... fellow one parliament of Fashington forbade, another, as if Madurovsky allowed ... and also, we, like a bumblebee, were counting on tudy like "Iskander" if there is anything to settle .. may not ask anyone at all ?

      You can’t ask, of course, but then it’s not only the whole responsibility that rests with us, as always and everywhere, a million sins hang in the first place, a potential ally. Do not rake us these.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 August 2019 06: 04
    +7
    And to disperse this parliament? How are they generally managed there? wassat
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 August 2019 06: 10
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And to disperse this parliament? How are they generally managed there? wassat

      Fashington feeds and moves Obama ... that is, Guaido, and Maduro, his theme ... something like that. winked
    2. PDM80
      PDM80 27 August 2019 06: 41
      +7
      With this approach, Maduro will at best end up as Yanukovych! For a long time it was necessary to pack this guido into a jail, but he still takes it!
    3. atalef
      atalef 27 August 2019 08: 26
      -10
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And to disperse this parliament? How are they generally managed there? wassat

      To disperse?
      And why then not to disperse the Russian Duma?
      The parliament was elected by the people - it was Maduro who rallied the election, having taken off all the competitors with his wife’s prosecutor general, and he didn’t slip such garbage with the parliament - so parliament is the will of a hungry and poor (because of politics maduro) people.
      Are you sure that Russia needs this?
      1. armata_armata
        armata_armata 27 August 2019 08: 36
        +15
        To disperse?
        And why then not to disperse the Russian Duma?

        Only for, her time to resign
        The parliament was elected by the people - it was Maduro who rallied the election, having taken off all the competitors with his wife’s prosecutor general, and he didn’t slip such garbage with the parliament - so parliament is the will of a hungry and poor (because of politics maduro) people.

        Why, then, did the hungry and impoverished people not follow Guaido and the US democracy, but supported the "illegally elected" Maduro? Can you dear friend push us misinformation?
        Are you sure that Russia needs this?

        The people of Russia need you, you do not, because you have a relationship with these people just like I do with the Israeli
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 27 August 2019 09: 48
          +3
          Quote: armata_armata
          The people of Russia need you, you do not, because you have a relationship with these people just like I do with the Israeli

          good Smeared in the trash. So: no IDF dances against Armata. laughing
        2. Ka-52
          Ka-52 27 August 2019 10: 25
          +1
          To disperse?
          And why then not to disperse the Russian Duma?

          Only for, her time to resign
          The parliament was elected by the people - it was Maduro who rallied the election, having taken off all the competitors with his wife’s prosecutor general, and he didn’t slip such garbage with the parliament - so parliament is the will of a hungry and poor (because of politics maduro) people.

          Why, then, did the hungry and impoverished people not follow Guaido and the US democracy, but supported the "illegally elected" Maduro? Can you dear friend push us misinformation?
          Are you sure that Russia needs this?

          The people of Russia need you, you do not, because you have a relationship with these people just like I do with the Israeli

          sound judgment! Plus +
        3. atalef
          atalef 27 August 2019 12: 04
          -5
          Quote: armata_armata

          The people of Russia need you, you do not, because you have a relationship with these people just like I do with the Israeli

          I have Russian citizenship, but do you have Israeli?
          Otozh wink
      2. Evil echo
        Evil echo 27 August 2019 09: 08
        +7
        And Guaido will come and everyone will live happily, as in Libya, for example, there, too, democracy won and the people felt all the charms of freedom.
      3. vmo
        vmo 27 August 2019 09: 43
        -3
        Do not lie!!!! And do not sculpt humpbacked.
      4. TokarevT
        TokarevT 27 August 2019 11: 11
        0
        So Boruch in 1993 the Duma dispersed, and normally everything turned out that way. And, I almost forgot, it was he who dispersed the non-kosher parliament! And Venezuelan, apparently, has a label on the board with a white and blue print! Not everyone is up to date.
      5. Rey_ka
        Rey_ka 27 August 2019 12: 56
        0
        And how will you live in Ukraine without the USA? again stick to Russia?
    4. vmo
      vmo 27 August 2019 09: 41
      +3
      It's time, yes Maduro is not Chavez.
    5. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 13
      0
      In presidential republics, parliament cannot express political distrust of the president and government (impeachment is another), and the president cannot dissolve parliament. Parliament there can only dissolve itself, and even then not in all presidential republics.
  3. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 August 2019 06: 04
    +4
    Interesting, it turns out, the position of individual representatives of the Venezuelan parliament.

    Here only the legitimate president of Venezuela can have an interesting position. Look at the pro-American forces that want the complete collapse of statehood, there is neither the strength nor the time. Perhaps Russian sponsorship in symbiosis with some foreign strategic partners, the central channels of the media and TV specifically have been talking about the need for joint exercises, competitions and other events for so long.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 August 2019 06: 12
      +2
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Perhaps Russian sponsorship in symbiosis with some foreign strategic partners, the central channels of the media and TV specifically have been talking about the need for joint exercises, competitions and other events for so long.

      we don’t have partners, absolutely alas.
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 27 August 2019 06: 22
        +2
        Quote: Aerodrome
        we don’t have partners, absolutely alas.

        you need to grow a partner yourself, do not lie on the road.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 27 August 2019 07: 44
          +7
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          you need to grow a partner yourself, do not lie on the road.

          Well, what they did not do and as soon as they did not contrived: they were allowed to unite, and they declared independence, and forgiven their debts, and left military equipment, and pull pipes thousands of kilometers along the bottom of the seas and on the land - the result is "0" .. Partners do not grow in the capitalist swamp. Only addicts and beggars. The soil is not suitable. What partners can a capitalist shark have? Pilot fish type only:
          1. atalef
            atalef 27 August 2019 08: 28
            -7
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            you need to grow a partner yourself, do not lie on the road.

            Well, what they did not do and as soon as they did not contrived: they were allowed to unite, and they declared independence, and forgiven their debts, and left military equipment, and pull pipes thousands of kilometers along the bottom of the seas and on the land - the result is "0" .. Partners do not grow in the capitalist swamp. Only addicts and beggars. The soil is not suitable. What partners can a capitalist shark have? Pilot fish type only:

            It’s strange, somehow they don’t get along well with each other, but with Russia (by the way, is the Russian Federation not capitalist?), It’s not slipping through, maybe you should look for jambs inside yourself?
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 27 August 2019 13: 23
              +1
              [quote = atalef] It’s strange, as they don’t get along well with each other, but with Russia (by the way, is the Russian Federation not capitalist?), it doesn’t slip, / quote]
              atalef, you wishful thinking. On the world stage, Russia gets along well with everyone. Here's just one example: The 6rd St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF-8) was held from 23 to 2019 June. It was attended by a record number of guests - 19 thousand people from 145 countries. The largest delegations were Chinese and American. A record number of transactions was also concluded - 650 agreements worth RUB 3,1 trillion. "
              In what you write about, "somehow they do not get along badly with each other," the keyword is SOMEONE.
              So get along, who creeps under the USA, he gets along (the leader in this is Poland). And who is trying to be independent, gets on the list where there is no democracy.
              [Quote] Maybe you should look for jambs in yourself? [/ Quote]
              Not when Russia engage in self-flagellation. As David Markovich said: "Things for tonsils."
          2. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 27 August 2019 19: 31
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Well, what they did not do and as soon as they did not contrived: they were allowed to unite, and they declared independence, and forgiven their debts, and left military equipment, and pull pipes thousands of kilometers along the bottom of the seas and on the land - the result is "0" .. Partners do not grow in the capitalist swamp. Only addicts and beggars. The soil is not suitable.

            must go to the courses of gardeners in England or America, for experience.
        2. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 27 August 2019 08: 00
          -2
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          you need to grow a partner yourself, do not lie on the road.

          so there is no ... aquarium ... terrarium ... in general ... mind.
      2. Rey_ka
        Rey_ka 27 August 2019 12: 58
        +1
        Maybe it's good that not !? Then you know that you need to rely only on yourself!
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 August 2019 06: 05
    +1
    Venezuelan National Assembly led by the notorious Juan Guaido
    It was necessary to crush this American puppet in its infancy, and now the train has left. Venezuelan parliament? More precisely, deputies must be called betraying their country for personal gain and for the sake of the United States. Something recently, the Russian media bypassed the topic of Venezuela. What is it for?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 15
      +2
      And the Western media began to mention Venezuela much less often.
  5. afrikanez
    afrikanez 27 August 2019 06: 20
    +1
    And who is this-Guaido, what would something be canceled? negative
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 August 2019 06: 25
      +1
      Quote: afrikanez
      And who is this-Guaido, what would something be canceled? negative

      such an obama-shaped slut, generously sponsored by phishington, skilled in changing regimes, and what, due to our piety, is so lacking for us, enough?
  6. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 27 August 2019 06: 32
    0
    Forever drunk did not bother at 93m, dug out tanks !!! For Maduro, it seems like the military, why be shy ?!
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 27 August 2019 06: 36
    +3
    This is the sandbox of the Yankees and they will push everyone out of there!
    The time of charismatic leaders is running out or just the leaders were crushed ???
    Viva CUBA! Viva Fidel! Maduro .... so-so.
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 06: 52
      0
      That’s why Viva Cuba was, that their support was excellent. And Maduro! What kind of support? Yes, practically no, that’s the whole consequence.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 August 2019 07: 05
        +1
        The people have a desire for freedom and justice always!
        Only to convince that you will be able to bring all those who have joined it there, this must be managed.
        1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 07: 09
          0
          To be able to, of course, is also necessary, but also considerable funds are needed for this, and where to get them without support.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 August 2019 07: 16
            +2
            Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
            To be able to, of course, is also necessary, but also considerable funds are needed for this, and where to get them without support.

            You do not buy support, extras. For self-sacrifice, and the struggle often leads to this, you need much more than money.
            However, there are professionals, mercenaries .... but this is very limited! The masses must still be carried away by something!
            1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
              SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 07: 37
              -1
              The masses must still be carried away by something!

              This is what support is needed from the outside. This mass, as you said, also wants to eat, but without support it cannot be fed, and if it remains hungry, then obviously no one will follow you.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 27 August 2019 07: 53
                0
                Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                if she remains hungry, then obviously no one will follow you.

                Not everything is so simple, there are different situations!
                Once upon a time there was a right incentive - We have nothing to lose but our chains! -
                It can still be like that. Each case has to be considered separately.
                A hungry lumpen following handouts, a kind of ally, complex!
                1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                  SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 08: 10
                  -1
                  Not everything is so simple, there are different situations!

                  But in this case, it was about Cuba and support from the side only benefited her. And the food that Fidel gave them, they did not count for serving and took it with greater honor, which made them even more encouraged to follow him.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 August 2019 08: 14
                    +3
                    With Cuba, all the rules, there the idea of ​​FREEDOM support was sufficient ..... and the history of the struggle is not small.
                    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 08: 17
                      -1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      With Cuba, all the rules, there the idea of ​​FREEDOM support was sufficient ..... and the history of the struggle is not small.

                      Of course, there was a great idea and there was much more support than this idea. The main thing is that people have achieved what they were striving for wink
                    2. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 08: 38
                      -3
                      I didn’t put you a single minus, but someone already blinded me, even this is ridiculous.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 August 2019 09: 18
                        +4
                        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                        I didn’t put you a single minus, but someone already blinded me, even this is ridiculous.

                        Cons I do not put ANYONE and NEVER ...... this is the fate of the pride .... okay, the path rejoice at least that.
                        Cubans are great guys, good, faithful comrades! If you compare with anyone, only with comrades from Vietnam!
                        They clearly knew why and why they did it.
                        We helped them and it was also clear why and why! It is a pity that "our" temporarily upper ones betrayed everything they could, for the sake of the "gingerbread" of the western "kollek"! This cannot be forgiven ...
                        and then, one organism wrote that it is necessary to regret the labeled one ... there is no one to take care of the grave of his ancestors, EVERYONE has been pulled away from here, they are eating their gingerbread there, over the hillock! Wretched they are .... unfortunately, here too, they remain the same .... everyone would be on Luna, like Mary Pickfort, from a big gun .... I wouldn’t regret a good charge for such a thing!
                      2. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 09: 29
                        +1
                        The Vietnamese, too, well done, showed themselves well. Of course, it is very unfortunate that overnight everything collapsed, to which they were striving.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 August 2019 10: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                        Of course, it is very unfortunate that overnight everything collapsed, to which they were striving.

                        This can not collapse at once and finally! You just need to call a spade a spade ... if the face is a TRADER, then you should call it that, and not build memorials to them !!!
                        Wagging back and forth, never brought anyone to good.
                        Our upper ones will behave as they should and FRIENDS will return ... they did not break away from us, these are "our" goats .... they tried.
                        Fidelity to ideals, FRIENDSHIP is not an empty phrase !!!
                      4. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
                        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 27 August 2019 10: 37
                        0
                        But do these friends need us now, after all this has happened, many of them have already found new Western friends. In principle, if efforts are made again, they may return.
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 August 2019 11: 19
                        +2
                        At the expense of Cuba, all the rules, they have not forgotten and betrayed nothing!
                        With the rest .... we must behave with dignity, accordingly, then we'll see.
                      6. Yngvar
                        Yngvar 28 August 2019 08: 24
                        +1
                        Right! An example is China - the USSR, from the time of Nikita Khrushchev. The ideological schism regarding loyalty to the teachings of Stalin ...
                      7. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 August 2019 08: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Yngvar
                        Right! An example is China - the USSR, from the time of Nikita Khrushchev. The ideological schism regarding loyalty to the teachings of Stalin ...

                        China is a great country! They grew out of ideological "pants"! Now they observe their INTERESES very much! This will have to be taken into account!
                        PS ... resentment for Stalin and the betrayal of communist ideology, they did not forget, of course! In general, betrayals of ideals are not forgiven! It's just that this does not always become an obstacle to cooperation, subject to various other interests!
                        The event took place to be, but we must move on and better together, against the background of everything that happens in the WORLD! INTERES, however!
                      8. Svarog
                        Svarog 27 August 2019 19: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Cubans are great guys, good, faithful comrades! If you compare with anyone, only with comrades from Vietnam!

                        Cubans are really great. They love Russia very much, and still .. We had a guide, like a Cuban in the Dominican Republic, they called Cuba .. studied in Ryazan with us, spoke good Russian, so we went to the ocean with him drinking rum, a lot for life They also talked about the collapse of the USSR and modern Russia. He says that no matter what our system is, he is always glad to be Russian, like all those he knows. But the fact that they abandoned the ideas of socialism is considered great stupidity. In general, we found a common language with him)) And later, recalling and watching the video recording, I noticed such a nuance that the Cubans, they are very similar to us, but the time when the Soviet Union was open, cheerful, optimistic .. and we have people , very changed, closed and aggressive became ..
                    3. Rey_ka
                      Rey_ka 27 August 2019 13: 01
                      0
                      And there was something to lose. Law of the Universe: Everything that goes easy and simple is not appreciated!
          2. atalef
            atalef 27 August 2019 08: 30
            -5
            Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
            To be able to, of course, is also necessary, but also considerable funds are needed for this, and where to get them without support.

            Few USSR / Russia swelled a woman in friends?
        2. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 27 August 2019 07: 12
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          That’s why Viva Cuba was, that their support was excellent.

          reinforced concrete fact.
  8. Amateur
    Amateur 27 August 2019 06: 51
    +1
    At the same time, parliamentarians from the camp of Guaido said that "they cancel the agreement because of its unconstitutionality."

    Have they not yet been canceled? Has Guaidon himself not fled to Brazil?
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 August 2019 08: 24
      -2
      Quote: Amateur
      At the same time, parliamentarians from the camp of Guaido said that "they cancel the agreement because of its unconstitutionality."

      Have they not yet been canceled? Has Guaidon himself not fled to Brazil?

      right like Gu andon ... no?
  9. Atenon
    Atenon 27 August 2019 07: 20
    +4
    This defective Obama kebab clone, as an independent person, is not even perceived.
  10. Angelica
    Angelica 27 August 2019 08: 04
    0
    This pro-American bastard Guaido had long had to be eliminated yesterday. And for one parliament to clean up. This is exactly what American henchmen do when they come to power.
    Playing the gentleman Maduro, he has every chance of losing in the end.
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  11. Voronezh-90
    Voronezh-90 27 August 2019 08: 12
    0
    HZ what to think about such geopolitics ... Again, we will be forgiven for all our debts?
    1. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 27 August 2019 10: 36
      -1
      It is more profitable to wait two years - in 2021 they have elections to the Assembly there ... Their "Maxim" (Guaidó) has already got a good shit - talking is not the business of doing
  12. Galleon
    Galleon 27 August 2019 09: 50
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    maybe you should look for jambs in yourself?

    Oh, again this offer to repent and ask for forgiveness. This does not work in international relations. Contact the pope - he will apologize to you with pleasure!
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  14. Rostislav Bely
    Rostislav Bely 27 August 2019 10: 29
    0
    The National Assembly has a term until 2021 - I doubt that it will be re-elected in the same composition ...
    For example, Brazil has already jumped with the new president - the Cuban Ministry of Health has published a statement on its website warning that it will soon recall all of its doctors working in Brazil since 2013 as part of the More Doctors humanitarian program. The Cuban authorities did not like the statements and threats of the elected president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonar, who called the conditions of the program inhuman, demanded confirmation of the qualifications of the Cuban doctors, and also threatened to break off diplomatic relations with Havana if she did not fulfill his requirements.
  15. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 27 August 2019 10: 51
    +2
    Quote: atalef

    -39

    In fact, the President is elected by the people. And his election is more transparent, since he was elected personally, and parliament, according to party lists. That is, if we talk about persons, then cats in a poke.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 27 August 2019 11: 36
      0
      Here I do not quite agree. The Venezuelan Parliament is elected by a mixed personalized system, a significant part of the deputies are elected in single-member districts. And in the payroll are quite famous people. That is, Venezuelans do not vote for cats in a poke. On the other hand, candidates for the President of Venezuela are nominated exclusively by political parties, and after the election they continue to lead them or at least remain party members. And this tradition in Venezuela developed long before Chávez came to power. Nomination of a non-party, independent candidate in Venezuela is not possible under the law. Venezuelans not only vote for the person, but also for the party that nominated it. And the party has an influence on the politics of the elected president. In Venezuela, parties and their blocs have always played a greater role compared to many other Latin American countries. Many supporters of the Socialist Party do not like Maduro very much, but they voted for him precisely because he was nominated by this party. In fact, there are more powerful figures in the party, but for a number of reasons they have moved to second positions.
  16. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 27 August 2019 10: 54
    +1
    Quote: Petr1971war
    Maybe Maduro should be eliminated, cotton wool?

    Do at least one good deed, dill. Take care of this business.
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  19. elenagromova
    elenagromova 27 August 2019 18: 44
    0
    And this decision is as illegitimate as Guano himself, oh, sorry, Guaido
  20. AML
    AML 27 August 2019 19: 55
    0
    Some kind of fan dash. Venezuela is a presidential republic - the last word for the president.
  21. Kontrik
    Kontrik 27 August 2019 20: 11
    0
    Juan Guaido ... No questions asked! wassat
    Juan in our Soviet films were negative heroes .. Here the United States did not successfully choose "comrade", as well as our navalny wassat They do not feel the peoples nevertheless. laughing
  22. DPN
    DPN 27 August 2019 21: 47
    0
    Trivia, as MADURO says, so will his example of GDP.
  23. Bookcase
    Bookcase 27 August 2019 21: 54
    0
    Americans - spend their last leverage on stupidity. It is for the better. The faster they spend, the more free the world will be.
  24. Rzzz
    Rzzz 28 August 2019 01: 01
    0
    And why does guaido command parliament if he himself declared that he Napoleon the president?
  25. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 28 August 2019 06: 38
    0
    But is this the first time the president is in favor, the parliament is against. Closer to our borders, this has already happened.
  26. Pissarro
    Pissarro 28 August 2019 09: 24
    0
    And who will bring the Guano gang solution to life? Well, tomorrow a Russian warship will come to Venezuela at the invitation of the Minister of Defense and the President, who completely control the army and the state apparatus. What will parliament do to protest?
    1. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 29 August 2019 04: 56
      0
      In such a situation, I think our ships and planes will not be sent to Venezuela.
  27. Klingon
    Klingon 28 August 2019 12: 54
    0
    Quote: bayard
    A certain American admiral boasted that everything was ready for the blockade, exercises were held (off the coast of Brazil) and everything was rehearsed. So there are at least three regional conflicts on the agenda in the "on the eve" stage ... four:
    - in Venezuela
    - in the Persian Gulf
    - Indo-Pakistani
    - Well, in the Donbass, with Ukraine.

    I’m wondering, but one place in them doesn’t crack on the striped ones, immediately sit on all the chairs ??
  28. Nikolay Balashov
    Nikolay Balashov 28 August 2019 21: 00
    0
    Ramshan and Jamshut banned America. Now it should dissolve itself.
  29. Diverter
    Diverter 28 August 2019 21: 44
    0
    VLADIMIR LOPES !!!)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  30. Ildar with
    Ildar with 29 August 2019 05: 37
    0
    And where is the guaido? HIDDEN PLAYS !!!