Reprint of Soviet textbooks has become relevant

In the light of the destructive liberal innovations that the sphere of national education has experienced in the past few decades and continues to experience, we can fully explain the increased interest of many Russians who are not indifferent to the fate of future generations and the country as a whole, to the Soviet experience.

It is no secret that in the 50-60 years of the 20 century, education, along with other areas of Soviet society, was at the highest level, as our opponents noted. However, instead of taking as a basis all the best and most advanced for that time, we, in fact tacitly losing the Soviet Union, lost the rich heritage and experience accumulated by the domestic education system. As a result, the presence in modern textbooks of errors, distortions, inaccuracies in wording and outright misinformation. If you look deeper - the deterioration in the quality of education, the upbringing not of future fighters and creators, but of consumers, the gray mass with excessive self-esteem.

That is why the issue of reprinting old Soviet textbooks has recently become relevant. The historian and encyclopedist Fedor Lisitsyn offers to consider several wonderful examples of books of the past, which in our time should pay attention to.

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[Palagecha]

A set of Soviet textbooks would have been handed over to the guarantor, according to which he had studied, and asked the question how the country was brought to such a life and when it would stop lying!

[Svarog]

Quote: Palagecha

A set of Soviet textbooks would have been handed over to the guarantor, according to which he had studied, and asked the question how the country was brought to such a life and when it would stop lying!

The answer will be calm, long, there will be historical notes, quotes, jokes .. in the end you forget what you asked him, and he forgets what he is talking about .. There is another option, it’s just going to fairy tales ..

[Gardamir]

in the end, you will forget what they asked him about, but he will forget what he is talking about ..

If anyone remembers, it was in this style that Gorbachev spoke.

[Shelest2000]

Never. How can he live then? He was not taught to tell the truth.

[Egorovich]

It is necessary to return not only Soviet textbooks, but also Soviet education in our schools. And as quickly as possible.

[Campanella]

Education and current power are incompatible things. Sheeps are easier to manage, but even here this problem has.

[Vivan]

I studied in Moscow in 1972-1985 (student body, internship, graduate school). According to the knowledge and abilities of fashion-conscious specialists who have received diplomas of the Russian Federation in the last 20 years, I can conclude that there is a huge difference in the quality of education in the former USSR and the current Russian Federation.

[Egorovich]

I graduated from school in 1977 in the district center. There were two classes of us - 73 graduates. In the same year, out of 73 people, 54 were enrolled in universities and military schools, and 9 people went to technical schools. We did not have gold medalists. As a result, we have left: 2 doctors of sciences, 4 candidates, 7 directors of enterprises and factories, 5 honored teachers and one major general. This release is still a record. This is education, fact.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vivan

I can conclude that there is a huge difference in the quality of education in the former USSR and the current Russian Federation.

I graduated from high school at sunset of the Union, and studied very modestly, in C grade. My wife studied already at the Russian Federation, and at 4-5. But here is the paradox - I have a higher level of knowledge than hers. Now I periodically troll her, poking her ignorance of elementary things.

[Vivan]

We have 6-7 people at the faculty who received a Ph.D. tech. sciences in the Russian Federation after the year 2000. We have such a tradition - the whole faculty team to relax together at sea in the summer (only 3-4 days). Once, once by chance, all the candidates of sciences who studied in the USSR or the Russian Federation were sitting in a cafe at once. I asked my colleagues (the oldest of them is 46 years old): “Do you watch any films in Russian?”. It turned out that no one is watching feature films in Russian, but three of them sometimes watch the latest news releases. I asked these three guys: “And how many percent do you understand?” They answer: “Probably 80 percent.” I say: “Oh, shame on you! I left the Union in 1985, that is 32 years ago, but I understand news releases in Russian by 100% (I can write down all the offers in the issue to a single word on paper), and I understand 99,5% of feature films, that is, they are possible single words that I don’t know. ” He also asked: “Could you give lectures on a specialty in Russian?”. Who says that he could not, and who - "it takes time to prepare." And I say: “Here I am giving a lecture in Vietnamese, and if I were suddenly told to continue to give a lecture in Russian, I would calmly switch to Russian without any labor.”
I also checked their knowledge of Russian jargon (kamarit, gush, squeeze, bug, etc.) - not the slightest idea!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egorovich

It is necessary to return not only Soviet textbooks, but also Soviet education in our schools. And as quickly as possible.

And in schools, and GPTU and RU, technical schools and institutes, and even in UML. Earlier there was a decent word "engineer", and now "bachelor, master" is something like "black magic".

[Etienne]

Quote: Palagecha

when the lie will stop!

Never! After so many spits in the Soviet regime, it’s too late to win back. Now, even if you kneel down, no one will believe.

[nycsson]

Logic needs to be returned to school !!! 53 years, if I’m not mistaken ....

[u4iy]

Two hands for!
Lack of knowledge of logic and critical analysis in society harms society. But it’s easier to manage .... For the time being.

[Revolver]

Quote: nycsson

Logic needs to be returned to school !!! 53 years, if I’m not mistaken ....

After the 53 year, Khrushchev came, and the logic was gone.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nagan

After the 53 year, Khrushchev came, and the logic was gone.

Yes ! The "miracle worker" did it.

[Aleksandre]

If you teach to think, then the number of convinced consumers can actually be reduced ... Well, in any case, I really want to hope so.
But for the capitalism in which we are, the contraction of the death market is similar.

[Svarog]

Quote: Aleksandre

But for the capitalism in which we are, the contraction of the death market is similar.

The fact is that capitalism is egoism, with all that it implies, and egoism is one of the reasons for the decrease in the population, which in our case is the loss of the state and the Russian nation, since such a territory cannot be kept by a small population, and even with neighbors with a billionth a population who all need resources .. And if we also take into account that capitalism is perverted in itself and cannot be called capitalism, it’s rather oligarchic or state corporate ... then the speed with which we are moving into the abyss will only grow. The only way out is to return to a socially oriented state, taking into account previous experience, error analysis.

[u4iy]

Egoism is nice and tactical. Like hapnu and I will be fine. And in a strategic perspective, Khan to you children of the state ....

[aries2200]

the goblins were growing

[Mouse]

Quote: aries2200

the goblins were growing

Did you stand aside? Did you see how they raised a goblin from your child?

[Mouse]

so I understand that who minus the responsibility for the upbringing of their own children was removed, transferred to school ... but what is there on the little things? personally on Putin!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mouse

so I understand that who minus put responsibility for the upbringing of their own children removed

It’s easier to live, passed on to uncle and live in peace.

[Langf]

It is high time. Two generations were injured, they were introduced into a confusion, then only darkness and stupid consumerism. And Vinogradov's "Logic" must be introduced: hardly any of the old ones can help the new young ones - they will have to separate the wheat from the chaff themselves.

[knn54]

I’ll say briefly: we got errors, distortions / inaccuracies of wording and just outright "disinformation."

[asura]

It is enough to compare the old physics textbook edited by Landsberg with the current wastepaper in order to understand that it makes sense to republish Soviet textbooks. They knew how to explain complex things in simple words before. Unfortunately, over time, the pseudo-scientific style of presentation, which was difficult for perception, prevailed. Hence the decline in the quality of training.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: asura

It is enough to compare the old physics textbook edited by Landsberg with the current waste paper

And the mathematical sciences are the same day and night.

[Cat man null]

Yeah ... really. That's what the life-giving headline does

[Masha]

Yeah. like flies to excrement ... and with someone, too, the Unified State Examination was introduced and no one remembers ...

[Cat man null]

None of the commentators (educated in the USSR, ogh) simply read the article beyond the title.

Quote: Reserve officer

In the USSR, a creative personality was developed from young people who could think and create

Raised ... only that's what eventually grew up - it's easy to see from the commentators ... brrrrrr

[Masha]

Quote: Cat Man Null

The article is simply none of the commentators (brought up in the USSR, og)

why read? it’s necessary to think the same ... and so the authorities reproached and in the black, that the trend on this site however ...

[Mouse]

Quote: Masha

repented the authorities and in the black, that the trend on this site however ...

Yes, the wrong site has become, the wrong ....

[AU Ivanov.]

As a result, people with excellent Soviet education were charging water in front of the TV. And swayed at the sessions of Kashpirovsky.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

As a result, people with excellent Soviet education were charging water in front of the TV. And swayed at the sessions of Kashpirovsky.

A little later, crowds of recent ardent atheists rushed to churches or sects, turning from the "progressive part of humanity" into intoxicated obscurantists. Others, like zombies, carried all their savings to new "shelters" (a special type of financial pyramids).

[tihonmarine]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

As a result, people with excellent Soviet education were charging water in front of the TV.

Oh, how I do not want to listen and read about myself. "Well, everyone did it, but not me, I'm smart and competent." But still, you were with everyone.

[AU Ivanov.]

Did you charge water using the Chumak method? I'm so sorry. They say someone even tried to charge a car battery with such a macar. And yes, I watched Kashpirovsky’s sessions. Free circus, the forerunner of current television shows. Squealing over idiots is priceless!

[Mordvin 3]

The opinion of a certain historian with the opinion of the party and government hardly coincides ...
In addition, there are a sufficient number of eggheads who dream of releasing their textbook in the realities of today, although for some reason the laws of the exact sciences do not change.

[Reserve officer]

In the USSR, a creative person was born from young people who was able to think and create. Now - a consumer who, figuratively speaking, knows how to count to ten, watch television advertising, sign where they say, and vote who they say.
There will be no return to Soviet education. For against the background of a competent thinking young generation, many greedy and incompetent representatives of the current government will look very wretched.

[Svarog]

Quote: Reserve officer

bo against the background of a competent thinking young generation, many greedy and incompetent representatives of the current government will look very wretched.

So they look in the eyes of the majority.

[Alexander Ra]

“... Today, about 20% of students master mathematics (geometry - 1%). In the 40s (immediately after the war!) 80% of schoolchildren who studied "according to Kiselev" mastered fully all the branches of mathematics ”(Uchitelskaya Gazeta. 2001, no. 44). In Israel, they teach mathematics according to the pre-revolutionary Kiselev. http://www.portal-slovo.ru/impressionism/36366.php

[Cat man null]

Quote: Alexander Ra

Today, about 20% of students learn math (geometry - 1%)

Have you read Yaplakal? Worthy source

Author - Igor Petrovich Kostenko, PhD in Physics and Mathematics, Associate Professor of the Department of Higher Mathematics -1, Rostov State University of Railways.

Tell me, do you know for sure that this candidate knows exactly what, who and how much "learns"?

[Alexander Ra]

The purpose of your attacks - tygdyk-tygdyk - is not interesting.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Alexander Ra

tygdyk-tygdyk

- this is your friend. Collecting all garbage on an Internet, and then passing it off as an unsafe truth - that’s your role.

Unappreciable, note a lesson

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Quote: Palagecha

A set of Soviet textbooks would have been handed over to the guarantor, according to which he had studied, and asked the question how the country was brought to such a life and when it would stop lying!

And he will read out his answer on a piece of paper. He has been reading for 20 years. Looks like school poems are not taught by heart.

[Paranoid50]

deterioration in the quality of education, education not of future fighters and creators, but of consumers, the gray mass with excessive self-esteem.

Due to this self-esteem, this mass becomes aggressive, if it sees a certain limitation of its own Wishlist. And then let's stagger, stagger - the clearest example of rabies with fat.

[Campanella]

What kind of fat are you talking about? Palm?
Rabies from fat at the top, they just blew the roof of the "opportunities" of the market long ago. Yeltsin began, and these miserables continued.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Reserve officer

bo against the background of a competent thinking young generation, many greedy and incompetent representatives of the current government will look very wretched.

So they look in the eyes of the majority.

Well, not quite the majority. I see young and older schoolchildren, for whom the slogan "sekas, chewing gum, loot" is everything, but let the nerds think. The elections in 2024 will show how many young people today think about tomorrow not only about their own, but also about their country.

[Svarog]

Quote: Vlad5307

Well, not quite the majority. I see young and older schoolchildren, for whom the slogan "sekas, chewing gum, loot" is everything, but let the nerds think.

You are right, I forgot to add the majority of the thinking population.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Svarog

forgot to add-most thinking population

Svarog, what are you, also from this "thinking population"?

Somehow, you are boldly trying to speak for all this, are you not afraid to offend anyone by accident, for example?

[Campanella]

No, damn the majority will vote for thieves, swindlers and billionaires in their right mind and clear memory.

[Chaldon48]

You don’t have to wait, but configure it now in the right direction. The future is born today.

[Chaldon48]

Textbooks can be reprinted, but where to get Soviet teachers?

[Kenxnumx]

Yeah - one such yelled and waved his party card. Graduated as a cleaner

[demo]

The longest process is teaching children.
It takes 10 years.
And in order to teach children, you need teachers.
Which to learn more 15.
Here is the conclusion for you - the old generation, trained by the Soviet method, will die out and that's it.
Fursenko and Livanov completed the tasks. Adieu.

[your1970]

Quote: demo

Here is the conclusion for you - the old generation, trained by the Soviet method, will die out and that's it.

Quote: AS Ivanov.

As a result, people with excellent Soviet education charged water in front of the TV. And swayed at the sessions of Kashpirovsky.

-then even comment laziness, just copy the comments ... everything was said a long time ago ....

[iouris]

"Education" has "arrived": Vylezaika station. You have to go back by another train. Quite different.

[rocket757]

No matter how we try to protect our descendants from the rubbish that modern textbooks abound in, in the end we will lose. Too massive pressure on fragile brains everywhere!
Maximum, level the most disgusting!
Soviet textbooks are also not a standard, but there are no such vile, unnatural, teachings that can lead to the degradation of everyone and everything.

[E.S.]

Soviet textbooks remained in at least one of the Suvorov schools. The result is encouraging

[Kenxnumx]

Reprint a short course of the CPSU (b). Well, by the way, physics with mathematics can be, although even that is not a fact

[Ivan Pchelin]

Return to textbooks thirty years ago? Science has not been developing for thirty years?

[Avior]

At school, they give the basics of sciences that are practically not affected by the development of science

[Kenxnumx]

Old bad paper textbooks were much easier than now. A modern schoolboy portfolio weighs a backpack of a tourist for two weeks

[AGV Pagan]

Modern textbooks in physics and mathematics, this is a reprint from the old Soviet. And not the best reprint: The chapters are shuffled, the topics are broken or, on the contrary, are depleted in obscure blocks. Apparently, modern authors thus tried to disown plagiarism .... Or they don’t know how to work differently.

[GRIGORIY76]

Strange, I thought the current regime is trying to distance itself as much as possible from the USSR

[Oresterter]

There is such a Chekist Fursenko. Under his sensitive, consistent and systematic guidance, the Unified State Examination was introduced in the country, under the swearing and groans of the majority of the population. What Soviet textbooks, while these people with happy faces are building glass fish eyes for us from TV screens!?! Impunity encourages further destruction. And education, and health care and other state-forming spheres of life ...

[Avior]

Textbooks are a problem, but that is not the main problem.
They broke the connection between education and occupation.
You can get a journalist diploma and send spaceships to plow the expanses of the universe.
You can get an engineering degree and go into commerce, and the income will be much higher than that of an engineer.
Thus, the process of obtaining specialized knowledge as the basis of a future career is simply depreciated.
If you graduated from the Polytechnic and found an excellent job at an advertising agency, then those who know about your experience ask themselves the question - what is the point of seriously learning special knowledge, if the future career in many cases does not depend on their level?
And no best textbook is a problem - alas! - do not fix it.
She is outside the walls of a school or university.
As soon as the state organizes the economy in such a way that the key to a career and high salary will be special knowledge for your area of ​​work, and not the ability to trick and dodge, new-old textbooks will not give the desired effect ......

[Etienne]

The grandson picked up two marks in mathematics, physics, history. After it turned out that there was no point in tutoring, my son asked me to take care of my grandson. I got the textbooks of Peryshkin, Kiselev, Rybkin. I analyzed all the topics with my grandson and solved dozens of problems for each of the topics. And what to do, gentlemen (former comrades)? Only hard work gives results. I was glad that my grandson became an excellent student in these subjects and is now preparing for a university. The grandson took up the story himself. I picked up the books for him - fortunately, at one time, there was a choice on the shelves in bookstores. And thanks to L.N. Gumilyov for his book "From Russia to Russia" - helped a lot. I downloaded modern history from the Internet - Soviet textbooks are still available. The library saves, without it in modern times - it's just a disaster!

[serg.shishkov2015]

in my city there is an Orthodox gymnasium, it is not connected with the programs of the Ministry of Education, so I privately purchased those textbooks that I thought were necessary — the old Soviet ones in exact and natural sciences!

[Ros 56]

Returning the system of Soviet education is simply an urgent need for the people, but this is not possible for our upper, starting with directors and large officials, the echelon of power. Indeed, in essence, what is a consumer, this animal to which they threw material, often shit in a beautiful package, chewing gum and he is chewing on this liberalistic crap. And often without distinguishing Dostoevsky from Dobrolyubov.

[U-58]

I support comrade Li Xi Tsyna

[seacap]

I agree and have spoken about this for a long time, but this is still not enough, and even taking into account several "lost" generations with perverted ideas about freedom and creativity. Not only Soviet education, but to restore the SYSTEM of education and upbringing, which began in kindergarten and was carried out by professional educators, and most importantly, the entire policy of the state, of the entire bureaucratic army, should be aimed at creating and developing a Russian, it is a pity that not a socialist community of people , patriotic, cultural. A united common idea, capable of reviving the country and pulling it out of this swamp where our corrupt and greedy, ambitious, but mediocre and mediocre rulers drove it.

[Mavrikiy]

All this is good, Soviet textbooks, books, logics, calligraphy, there is no Soviet student, no Soviet values, goals ... To study with parents, nonsense. Only at school in a team, competing and learning from friends. At the state level.

[kalibr]

Quote: Egorovich

It is necessary to return not only Soviet textbooks, but also Soviet education in our schools. And as quickly as possible.

Alexander! You are an employee of the educational system, you have a great pedagogical experience, yes?

[kalibr]

Quote: Chaldon48

and set up now in the right direction

Go to school and ... work in the right direction! Good luck! Mentally together!

[NF68]

Caught too late.

[Stalnov I.P.]

The reprint of these books is such a blow to this corrupt and rotten "elite" and those sitting in high armchairs, they crumble from everything SOVIET, cries from the fact that they are "outstanding" leaders and chatterboxes cannot repeat what the USSR did, in the economy, social development, science, education, etc. Well, it is not given to them to create, create, multiply, their lot is to saw, divide, tyrit. Dullness and mediocrity flourish.