The fate of the space ship "Fedor" is named in the event of a new failure at the dock

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The further fate of the first Russian Robot- FEDOR cosmonaut in case of repeated failure when trying to dock with the ISS of the Soyuz MS-14 spacecraft. Recall that on the first attempt, the spacecraft failed to dock with the International Space Station.

The fate of the space ship "Fedor" is named in the event of a new failure at the dock




Information Agency Interfax leads a statement by an expert in the field of astronautics Ivan Moiseev. Moiseev notes that it is necessary to think about a new attempt at docking, but if it is unsuccessful and if a docking failure occurs again, the Soyuz MS-14 spacecraft with the Fedor robot on board will have to be flooded.

In all likelihood, we are talking about flooding in the waters of the Pacific Ocean, where spacecraft reduced from orbit usually go.
At the moment, the resource of spacecraft engines is being discussed. In fact, we are talking about the number of attempts to dock to the station. The expert notes that the resource along with fuel from Soyuz in the current conditions will be enough for no more than a week. The role is played by the activity of its maneuvering, which is directly related to the rate of fuel consumption.

Recall that it was originally planned to work the spacecraft "Fyodor" (Skybot F-850) in aggressive environments dangerous to humans. In this case, it was planned to use the robot in a fully autonomous mode. On the site of Roscosmos, a couple of days ago, an interview was published by the executive director of promising programs and science of Roscosmos, Alexander Bloshenko. From the interview:

We developed a script for typical operations with Skybot F-850, which it will execute in the copy control mode. These are operations with a screwdriver, with keys, with electrical connectors. These exercises will allow you to demonstrate that fine motor skills, which the robot is provided at the highest level. There are several interesting “tricks” in the Fedor program on the ISS, but we will reveal them a bit later.

Today, Roscosmos noted that there were no security threats to the ISS crew due to an unsuccessful attempt to dock with the Soyuz MS-14 spacecraft. At the same time, a new date for the attempt to dock is called - August 27.
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  1. +14
    24 August 2019 19: 12
    Someone is very profitable so that Fedor does not get to the station.
    1. +13
      24 August 2019 19: 32
      Quote: figvam
      Someone is very profitable so that Fedor does not get to the station.

      I suspect that by no means ame_ram.
      1. +1
        25 August 2019 05: 20
        Quote: Nychego
        Quote: figvam
        Someone is very profitable so that Fedor does not get to the station.

        I suspect that by no means ame_ram.

        I totally agree. Liberasty, 5th column, spare, wherever they can. The robots could be sent on a flight with a person and this would not have caused any damage to the image of the robot, and the docking, in different situations, practically guaranteed.
      2. +4
        25 August 2019 09: 36
        I suspect that by no means ame_ram.

        Reptiloids!
    2. +13
      24 August 2019 19: 38
      Maybe he himself? While I was flying I thought - "Oh, well, this station is nafig, it will have to work there, and it’s not standardized, because the TC doesn’t apply to me. And so, they will flood somewhere in the ocean, and there are all sorts of Maldives and the Seychelles nearby." ...
      1. +1
        25 August 2019 04: 30
        Quote: MooH
        Well, he broke the dock slowly.

        Fedor is cool because he managed to break the dock remotely, the one at the station (Kurs-P, emnsknip).
    3. -2
      24 August 2019 20: 30
      First, a hole was drilled, now the station is being rocked))) If only the Russians did not become the first again, well, the toad strangles them!
      1. +12
        24 August 2019 20: 55
        hi
        We are by no means the first with a robot on the ISS:
        -Since 2011, the American Robonaut-2 is on the ISS. Also an android, like "Fedor".

        -robots Astrobee (from this year).

        Japanese Kyrobo (with 2013).

        But these are almost toys. Really useful things are two manipulators, which are also, in fact, robots (robotic manipulators, "robotic arms"):
        -Dextre (2007)

        -Well and of course CanadArm 2 (2001)


        + maybe others, by the little things that I don’t know about.
      2. +21
        24 August 2019 21: 47
        Quote: Berg Berg
        First, a hole was drilled, now the station is being rocked))) If only the Russians did not become the first again, well, the toad strangles them!

        The difference between Russians and Ukrainians is that Ukrainians blame Russians for all their troubles, and Russians blame Americans. But in fact, here and there they write fierce nonsense ... the Americans did not let Fyodor to the ISS, the Russians did not allow to dig the Black Sea (I exaggerate). I am ashamed of the stupid fellow countrymen ...
        1. +18
          24 August 2019 23: 52
          You have not finished the thought. The difference between Russians, Ukrainians and Americans is that Ukrainians blame Russians for all their troubles, Russians blame Americans, and Americans blame Russians and Chinese. :-)
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    4. +1
      24 August 2019 20: 50
      Quote: figvam
      Someone is very profitable so that Fedor does not get to the station.

      Fedor is not a robot, this is bullshit, but "Soyuz" to flood it, yes ...
    5. +24
      24 August 2019 21: 11
      Look who used to be the head of Roscosmos (in Soviet times - the Ministry of General Engineering) - these were professionals. And now?!
      Already how many times, to put it mildly, they gave a blunder ?! Drive a filthy broom!
      1. -6
        24 August 2019 23: 08
        Look who used to be the head of Roscosmos (in Soviet times - the Ministry of General Engineering) - these were professionals. And now?!
        Already how many times, to put it mildly, they gave a blunder ?! Drive a filthy broom!


        I agree with you. Zadolbal this Roscosmos - a circle of asshole handicraftsmen! Everywhere in Russia, everything is fine, a breakthrough and nanotechnology on every corner, nothing burns anywhere, does not explode, does not sink - and they have a continuous state of emergency - spoil the wonderful statistics of the whole power !!!
      2. 0
        25 August 2019 04: 37
        Quote: Valery Valery
        And now?!

        Often, thieves and showmen.
        Well, the authoritative and competent leader of a complex industry doesn’t get out of the jury, um-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-e-t!
      3. 0
        25 August 2019 23: 46
        "Can you change something in the conservatory?" laughing
    6. +2
      24 August 2019 23: 36
      Yes, the story is confusing. We need to find out where the butler was at that time.
    7. +1
      24 August 2019 23: 53
      Why because of populism it’s not possible to drag any garbage into orbit, as far as I’ve seen, a full-fledged working robot is understandable, but it’s clear that others don’t, but it’s akin to a Mask with a car in space comedians
      1. +2
        25 August 2019 00: 34
        Quote: Warrior-80
        Why, because of populism, drag any garbage into orbit, as far as I saw it can’t do much, a full-fledged working robot is understandable, but it

        In order for it to become full-fledged, it must also be tested in orbit. So to speak, directly "on the front line." The first steam locomotive, when it also seemed a miracle of technology and engineering thought, but come on, a diesel engine and electric traction appeared.
        1. 0
          25 August 2019 11: 28
          The locomotive now seems like a miracle. How this whole mountain of iron can work in general.
          With a diesel locomotive it’s just easier and more understandable. Here the diesel engine works, the generator generates, the wheel motors spin .. nothing complicated.
          1. 0
            25 August 2019 11: 45
            Quote: rzzz
            The locomotive now seems like a miracle. How this whole mountain of iron can work in general.
            With a diesel locomotive it’s just easier and more understandable. Here the diesel engine works, the generator generates, the wheel motors spin .. nothing complicated.

            Water boils, steam goes into the system, presses on the piston and then everything is as usual. I remember that in a depot boiler room a boiler flew in the winter and in order not to defrost the system, the steam locomotive was driven from which pipes were put into the heating system of the Depot building and he puffed for a couple of three weeks ensuring the viability of the enterprise. The device, although old, is still relevant since in case of war, it does not depend on either a solarium or electricity. I poured water into the tender, put coal (or firewood) into the bunker, hook the train and forward. Previously, there were about 15-20 of them near the Depot, and the boys and I climbed them up and down, and in the 90s they stole these poor fellows (probably drank some scrap metal), but now, passing the train station, I see where then they are still on conservation. hi
          2. -2
            25 August 2019 17: 33
            The plane is a piece of iron, but it flies.
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      1. +3
        25 August 2019 04: 34
        Quote: Lbt2103
        Obama is exactly to blame! And in the porch you have too pissing Obama!

        Neither Putin nor Obama will be able to piss at our entrance - the concierge will not let them go there, will point across the road to the shopping center and send them to piss.
  2. +5
    24 August 2019 19: 13
    Obviously someone "ordered" Fedor :))
    Perhaps the astronauts .. clean the competitor
    1. -4
      24 August 2019 21: 57
      Quote: Truth
      Obviously someone "ordered" Fedor :))
      Perhaps the astronauts .. clean the competitor

      The Americans were frightened by the Russian "terminator" - there is no way to run away from the ISS and you can't hide much, they wrote earlier that the block on the ISS did not work. Perhaps someone poked around ...
  3. 0
    24 August 2019 19: 13
    It will be a shame to lose such an android, I won’t be surprised if it turns out that it exists in a single copy
    1. +1
      24 August 2019 19: 56
      Quote: Klingon
      It will be a shame to lose such an android, I won’t be surprised if it turns out that it exists in a single copy

      Just an android? What about a rocket with a ship? And all because of an error in the code. Stupid of course the situation, horses from joy to space are now jumping.
      1. 0
        24 August 2019 23: 39
        a missile, and so on, with a ship, one way or another, at least it docked, at least not,
        Threat. for which minus is not clear, did I write something bad or insulted someone? here is a strange community here ... and yes and do not care.
        I can not find how to delete the account
        1. -1
          25 August 2019 00: 23
          Quote: Klingon
          a missile, and so on, with a ship, one way or another, at least it docked, at least not,
          Threat. for which minus is not clear, did I write something bad or insulted someone? here is a strange community here ... and yes and do not care.
          I can not find how to delete the account

          Cons apparently for "I will not be surprised that there is one copy."
          Because of ignorance, you are projecting a decadent energy out of the blue (if I may say so).
          Look at the recent report or something.
          1. -3
            25 August 2019 14: 01
            Quote: AlexG83
            Cons apparently for "I will not be surprised that there is one copy."
            Because of ignorance, you are projecting a decadent energy out of the blue (if I may say so).

            Believe it or not, the 850 skybot exists in a single copy ... Part of this copy flew to the ISS, you may laugh, but experts from Roskosmos miscalculated the size of the plywood box and the whole "Fedya" did not fit there. So this is not the same Fedor who is named after Rogozin's grandson.
    2. +12
      24 August 2019 20: 03
      It will be a shame to lose such an android, I won’t be surprised if it turns out that it exists in a single copy


      robots will fly for a very long time
      1. -2
        24 August 2019 22: 13
        In the first frames of "Petrel" ...
  4. +9
    24 August 2019 19: 18
    Well, if Fedor cannot take control in manual mode on himself, then this is not a robot ... Bullshit.
    1. +4
      24 August 2019 19: 32
      But this is so. What are you minus? Let it control at least in avatar mode.
      The question doesn’t dock immediately - was Fedya? (In the sense in which he was presented)
      1. +6
        24 August 2019 19: 41
        What to manage? problem on the ISS and not the union
        1. +2
          24 August 2019 19: 43
          Thus, what astronauts control when switching to manual mode. We even docked with "Salyut".
      2. 0
        24 August 2019 19: 50
        Whoever took it out of the drawer, but turned on the power, then if it could, he could steer the Union.
        1. -1
          24 August 2019 19: 56
          You all know for sure, you yourself put them in a box? If you launched a full-fledged robot, then the control of the ship is assumed, at least some time ago, this function was announced (assistant cosmonaut)
          1. +5
            24 August 2019 20: 06
            No, I didn’t do it myself. Only a box brought. laughing
            Clearly, nobody knows anything here. Everyone has only a bunch of questions - WHY?
            Why the automation didn’t work,
            Why you can’t manually poke
            Why the course cannot be repaired,
            How then will others dock,
            Why it’s impossible to land
            Why can’t you manually get Fedya if he’s only a few meters from the ISS,
            Why Fedya himself will not take the helm ...,
            ...

            In short, something is not clean here. Reasonable is the question of one of the commentators -
            WAS FEDYA THAT?
            1. 0
              24 August 2019 20: 09
              Well, you see, there is no disagreement with you and me.
            2. +3
              24 August 2019 20: 34
              Quote: kit88
              Why it’s impossible to land

              This question interests me too. Why drown if it is a standard ship and it has everything you need to land? request
          2. +1
            24 August 2019 20: 20
            The question is what is meant by a full-fledged robot. If this is a terminator capable of acting autonomously or the same TARS from the film Interstellar, which, by the way, has docked in space, then in this case Fedor before that is like an ant to the moon. He does not have the most important thing for this ...

            If you try to use it as an avatar, then two questions arise. First, the technology is too new, raw and not well-developed to risk it. The second - manipulators may not have enough dexterity, and communication providing data transmission may go with delays. All the same, when docking, even fractions of a second can be important.
            1. +2
              25 August 2019 00: 56
              "The question is what is meant by a full-fledged robot." ////
              ----
              Fedor does not have a full autonomous mode
              and there is no artificial intelligence.
              This is a remotely controlled mechanism with limited autonomy.
              on hard (not self-taught) written software.
              1. 0
                25 August 2019 04: 26
                I agree with you, this is not a robot with the rudiments of intelligence as they try to position it ... it's just a copy-paste of your movements with good motility and feedback. He doesn’t even pull an avatar from the film - the blue ones could have been much larger, wider and farther wassat It will be a pity if they don’t dock. I have a question, what do we have there ... is there one docking unit left that remains ??? One and no options at all - I DO NOT BELIEVE from the word at all, for if Fedyu was sent to the Union with a changed docking unit so much that he could stick only here, then ... it would just be AHTUNG and the highest level of incompetence. What about the other docking nodes in our segment?
          3. -9
            24 August 2019 20: 34
            They wrote that the robot is in a disabled state, and the whole problem is in the "contact" system on the ISS, and there the Americans are swinging it!
            1. +6
              24 August 2019 21: 45
              Quote: Berg Berg
              there the Americans are swinging it!

              Here are artiodactyls. The hole was drilled, our push was caught, now the system is also being shaken.
      3. -2
        25 August 2019 02: 45
        This is bullshit. It is made from mechanisms made in China. You can collect the same in the budget of about 300000.
    2. -3
      24 August 2019 20: 04
      Quote: Tektor
      Well, if Fedor cannot take control in manual mode on himself, then this is not a robot ... Bullshit.

      Bored him without Manki! And the whole story!
    3. 0
      24 August 2019 20: 31
      Quote: Tektor
      Well, if Fedor cannot take control in manual mode on himself, then this is not a robot ... Bullshit.

      Ie a robot that is only on tests and running-in, to entrust manipulations on which the fate of the ISS and cosmonauts on it will depend? He was sent there in order to test the management; he has not yet matured to something complicated, where human life can be put at stake.
    4. 0
      24 August 2019 23: 42
      ... this is not a robot ... Bullshit.


      Of course not a robot. Dummy. But it will die like a robot :-)
    5. 0
      25 August 2019 07: 22
      Yes, there is no manual control system on this ship. She is not there. Calculation for automation and the outdated Kurs docking system, which is located on the ISS. Therein lies the problem. Who knows who the developer of this Kurs system is?
      1. 0
        19 September 2019 23: 34
        joint american-european
  5. +6
    24 August 2019 19: 20
    And what kind of ship is this cunning Union ms 14? On the one hand, it is considered manned, therefore, it cannot be docked manually from the station, unlike Progress. On the other hand, it is without a crew, and therefore landing on Earth is not provided. what
  6. +4
    24 August 2019 19: 28
    But letting him down to earth is not fate? That is, if the astronauts can’t dock, they will be flooded too? Really pack Fed.
  7. +1
    24 August 2019 19: 33
    What a stupidity! Is the Soyuz refueling at the station? I don’t believe it. Does not fit, sits down as usual ...
    He needs any landing permit, and it’s on board whether he docked at the station or not. Some specialist from ... And where is he from?
    1. -1
      24 August 2019 19: 45
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What a stupidity! Is the Soyuz refueling at the station? I don’t believe it. Does not fit, sits down as usual ...
      He needs any landing permit, and it’s on board whether he docked at the station or not. Some specialist from ... And where is he from?

      Here, rather, the meaning of the mission lies in the details:
      Mission objectives
      This is the first launch of the Soyuz MC manned spacecraft using the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle, the previous version of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle. The unmanned launch option is designed to certify the rocket and the ship, and also allows you to check all the systems in cooperation at launch. The start-up tested the interaction of the digital control system of the Soyuz-2 launch vehicle with the analog rescue system. For Soyuz-FG missiles with an analog control system, the launch azimuth is set by turning the launch pad, and Soyuz-2, with a digital control system, is deployed in flight. This turn can be perceived by the analog emergency rescue system as a signal about the abnormal operation of the rocket and lead to the shooting of the ship. A new emergency rescue system is installed on the ship.

      Features of the complete set
      This version of the Soyuz MS is distinguished from the usual serial ship by the upgraded motion control and navigation system (SUDN) with the corresponding refinement of individual airborne systems, as well as the absence of some of the instruments and assemblies necessary to ensure the crew’s work, which will increase the payload

      Perhaps this equipment does not mean by itself an element of salvation for Fedor
      1. +5
        24 August 2019 19: 48
        Quote: APASUS
        Perhaps this equipment does not mean by itself an element of salvation for Fedor

        Standard ship, standard flight plan. The lander in place, in it a robot. According to the plan, he was supposed to go down in two weeks on the same ship ... Something a lot of conspiracy theories ...
        1. -2
          24 August 2019 19: 54
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Standard ship, standard flight plan. The lander in place, in it a robot. According to the plan, he was supposed to go down in two weeks on the same ship ... Something a lot of conspiracy

          This is not a standard ship and its mission is certification, maybe you have read the text poorly
          1. +4
            24 August 2019 20: 10
            Quote: APASUS

            This is not a standard ship and its mission is certification, maybe you have read the text poorly

            I do not read the text of the article. A press release from Roscosmos. From the point of view of a flight mission, this is a standard ship. Refusal is not on it, on board the station. Was the ship supposed to return with the same "passenger"? Why can't he return with him without docking?
          2. -2
            24 August 2019 20: 53
            Quote: APASUS
            This is not a standard ship and its mission is certification, maybe you have read the text poorly


            And who will issue the certificate - NASA?

            ... and Soyuz-2, with a digital control system, is deployed in flight. This turn can be perceived by the analog emergency rescue system as a signal about the abnormal operation of the rocket and lead to the shooting of the ship. A new emergency rescue system is installed on the ship.


            Was shooting the emergency compartment?
            However, the truth will not be known soon after 50 years.
            http://www.manonmoon.ru/articles/st55.htm
      2. 0
        25 August 2019 05: 06
        Greetings ... based on your post, we can conclude that an experimental castrate ship (apparently optimized in the trash for this by the defective managers of roskokosmos ??? was launched into orbit with Fedya ??? And is this exactly that this Fedya cost 3 lard - that there it may cost ... It’s not an hour to join and flood (hide the ends) in a blue okian ... but it was already like that. Yes, and I have a question - Fedya is able to work outside the station - it should be his intended purpose (although why it was necessary to do it in the form of an android) ... well, if only as a refinement of the concept and technology itself ... but even here slippery questions begin in terms of what for a goat button accordion. That's all muddy.
  8. 0
    24 August 2019 19: 45
    I think. Especially the "course" was spoiled (or turned off under the guise of a malfunction). Dmitry will come and personally give a decree to Father Fyodor (sorry, I'm not talking about Konyukhov). He will personally send the binary code to the Skybot F-850, which will take over control of the MS-14. And then, after a successful docking, let someone blurt out that our robots (which have no analogues in the world) cannot take control in a critical situation. We are waiting, in general drinks
  9. +4
    24 August 2019 19: 50
    This is called "ends in water". And in the literal sense.
  10. -2
    24 August 2019 19: 52
    In the news they wrote about some strange fluctuations of the union before attempting to dock, maybe Fedya rebelled? :)
  11. +2
    24 August 2019 19: 57

    Magos "Mechanicum" Rogozin repairs FEDOR.
    By the 27th, at the opening of MAKS-2019, it will fix it ... And FEDOR will dock the manned UNION to the ISS on this day. fellow
    1. +5
      24 August 2019 19: 58
      I'm afraid Rogozin is not attracted to magos, more to the representative of the administration, exiled to Mars :)

      And in general, Fedya had to be done as a servitor initially, with some freedom of action :)
      1. 0
        24 August 2019 20: 08
        Rather, an Iterator converted into a minister of the Adeptus Administrative, but acting as a Mechanicum. Otherwise, the news: "At the same time, it is reported that a meeting is being held at the MCC in connection with the failed docking so far. the arrival of the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin."
        Does he have to turn on the "button" of the product? Or give the specialists an "accelerator"?
        1. +2
          24 August 2019 20: 13
          must determine whom to execute, whom to lobotom and reduce to the servitor, maybe the commissioner will bring with him and appoint, to increase control :)
    2. -3
      24 August 2019 20: 22
      All according to plan. Blame Fyodor for the hole drilled on the ISS in the casing.
  12. +3
    24 August 2019 20: 01
    Oh, come on, everything will be fine, it’s docked as cute))
    1. -5
      24 August 2019 21: 26
      Docks .... to Losharik.
  13. -1
    24 August 2019 20: 03
    It was necessary to launch it on the cargo "progress", and not on the Union! !!
    1. 0
      25 August 2019 08: 36
      No, in the Union.
      There is a test cycle Soyuz-2.
      Do not run them empty!
      And with Progress, the cycle is successfully completed
  14. -1
    24 August 2019 20: 11
    More foolishness than designing an android for space is hard to come up with. Our rulers are easily caught on false promises by all sorts of "Petriks". In the end, failure after failure.
    1. 0
      24 August 2019 20: 21
      I realized this when a couple of years ago Rogozin said that humanoid robots would fly into space.
      What's in his head?
      All tasks can be solved by a box the size of a cigarette pack. And here is a robot, with legs and arms, in an armchair, occupies a volume ....
      He saw about Three-Pi-O from Star Wars revised.
  15. +16
    24 August 2019 20: 14
    it was planned to work the spacecraft "Fyodor" (Skybot F-850) in aggressive environments dangerous to humans. In this case, it was planned to use the robot in a fully autonomous mode.

    What are the hostile environments on the ISS? Space? Well and forth, if he is so advanced - to sit on the twine in Macedonian. He left the Union if it was already lost, brought the ship closer to the ISS, climbed onto the ISS and reached the airlock. But something says in me that this is not a working device, but some kind of regular show. And the point is not in his shooting or inability to do the most important and urgent operations in space for people, but in his deliberate anthropomorphism: why make a neck and head like if it is more reliable to hide a rotating module with lenses in a clean environment under a transparent dome, as all manufacturers do video equipment? This solution has a lot of advantages except one - for the show is not watchable. No bread, so circuses! And this Fedya stands in one line with 30-year-old generals and exponential executions deputies of every kind!
    Do you want - criticize. BUT, let's follow this situation after this Fedya is lost. After all, the second will be created much cheaper and faster. Will appear to Fed Zina or Petya, and what will they all do? Or will the show end its short century?
    And one more thing: was there no place for the robot to work on the ball? Aggressive environments were not enough? Well, I’d work for myself at a refinery or chemical plant. No! It's all about the spectacle. Watch filed!
    1. -1
      25 August 2019 02: 49
      He is not capable of anything. Unless the kids entertain. This robot is a dummy
  16. +13
    24 August 2019 20: 15
    Maybe I’ll speak out rudely, but ... Powerlessness has seized power in the cosmonautics. Money spent - no robot. now drown him in the Pacific Ocean and ends in water.
    1. -2
      24 August 2019 21: 37
      Here he has a place there, for example, on Losharik. Engage in sabotage on the seabed, installation and repair of special equipment in the mode of copying operator movements. And in this case he does not need either a head or legs or brains (which he does not have). And sensitive executive fingers are very useful. But lovers of dolls on strings insistently demand a SHOW! And after all they achieve it, and even for the State Account!
  17. -3
    24 August 2019 20: 17
    Binomial theorem:-):-):-)
    They will give Rogozin, he will drown him like a dachshund.
  18. -9
    24 August 2019 20: 36
    In addition to jokes, you need to check US involvement in this incident.
    1. +2
      24 August 2019 22: 04
      Quote: Valerik1337
      need to check US involvement in this incident

      Why check them out. They have long imposed sanctions against this Fedor.
      On February 27, it became known that foreign companies refused to supply components for the Fedor robot in the Russian Federation after they learned that he had learned to shoot pistols. Until 2018, Russian engineers used imported gearboxes, sensors, motors, cameras and computers, the Federal News Agency said.

      https://iz.ru/850603/2019-02-27/robot-fedor-okazalsia-v-razy-deshevle-amerikanskogo-analoga
  19. -2
    24 August 2019 20: 37
    The fate of the space robot "Fedor" in the event of a new refusal during docking is sad
    Will fly in space and signal to the morse code about what he saw
    Whether the Earth is flat or cubic, but this is no longer important.
    Do not turn back time ...
  20. 0
    24 August 2019 20: 39
    It is clear that the failure of the FOBOS-GRUNT mission was associated with a grandiose cut (was there a satellite?). But why would Rogozin (with all due respect to him) be "led" to this propaganda show? Soyuz MS-14 is an experimental manned spacecraft. It can dock automatically to the ISS, or maybe not. Why shove this product F-850 there? This is similar to the "soft propaganda" courses taught at the HSE: "If the MC-14 successfully docks in automatic mode and the crew receives a useless device in the form of a FEDOR (which is not needed there and will not work in advance), then you can tell the okhlos that the new manned spacecraft has passed the test with a model of an astronaut on board. will have to flood the MS-14 in the Pacific Ocean, then they will tell the okhlos that the new ship is new (there are "childhood diseases", etc.), and a unique anthroposophic robot that has no analogues in the world was lost, which would " put the heat on "the entire crew and would solve all the questions in outer space. But alas ... The experimental ship let down". In general: the unprofitable position of Roscosmos.
    1. -1
      24 August 2019 23: 21
      rruvim (Roman) Today, 20: 39

      It is clear that the failure of the FOBOS-GRUNT mission was associated with a grandiose cut (was there a satellite?). But why would Rogozin (with all due respect to him) be "led" to this propaganda show? Soyuz MS-14 is an experimental manned spacecraft. It can dock automatically to the ISS, or maybe not. Why shove this product F-850 there? This is similar to the courses of "soft propaganda" taught at the Higher School of Economics: "if the MS-14 successfully docks in automatic mode and the crew receives a worthless device in the form of a FEDOR (which is not needed there and will not work in advance), then you can tell the okhlos that a new manned spacecraft has passed a test with a mock-up of an astronaut on board. And if the MS-14 has to be flooded in the Pacific Ocean, then they will tell the okhlos that the new ship is new for that (there are "childhood diseases", etc.), and a unique anthroposophical robot that has no analogues in the world has been lost, which would have "set the heat" on the entire crew and would have solved all questions in outer space. But alas ... The experimental ship failed. " In general: Roscosmos's no-lose position.


      Finally, one sensible comment. The version is believable. Thank you, restore faith in people. And then it’s completely sad from the stupidity of most commentators
  21. +1
    24 August 2019 20: 43
    If the flood, then not Fedor.
  22. +5
    24 August 2019 20: 52
    What is there to guess! Send FEDORA in pursuit of TESLA, let him ride and steer! This will be fun!
  23. Cry
    -4
    24 August 2019 21: 24
    Fedya was stupid, but they still promise
    There are several interesting “chips” in the Fedor program on the ISS, but we will reveal them a bit later.
    . As if Fedya wouldn’t dump the ISS into the ocean with his chip. In general, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always. Already at the initial stage, something went wrong as it was programmed. So, either the program is stupid, unprotected, or there is a third-party, unaccounted for impact that can make holes in Fedya’s head.
  24. +3
    24 August 2019 21: 26
    That is, with analogue ships, everything was normal, they switched to digital, but the "Course" did not recognize the digit .. Interestingly, on the ground, were they practicing the docking of the NEW ship with the old airlock? Or do Chinese microcircuits instead of zero and one give out hieroglyphs? Another disgrace for the whole world ..
  25. -2
    24 August 2019 21: 35
    Who can’t launch rockets already .... and some specialists should be sent to the DPRK for an internship with managers for a couple of years. We already have 50/50 starts.
  26. 0
    24 August 2019 22: 10
    Give Fedor a fire extinguisher and VALII
  27. -5
    24 August 2019 22: 39
    It's a pity, of course, if you have to drown Fedya in the ocean ... but what can you do, it will be worse if advanced robotic technologies fall into the hands of "friends" overseas.
    1. 0
      24 August 2019 23: 26
      Quote: Voronezh-90
      It's a pity, of course, if you have to drown Fedya in the ocean ... but what can you do, it will be worse if advanced robotic technologies fall into the hands of "friends" overseas.


      God forbid! There in the "Boston Daynemics" will be offended when they look at this "miracle of breakthrough technologies"! Are you serious or is it sarcasm?
  28. -1
    24 August 2019 22: 44
    Here comes the first robot loser and as a result the drowned man. I wonder who sitting at the station led the docking?
    1. 0
      24 August 2019 23: 17
      It was automatic.
  29. -5
    24 August 2019 22: 51
    It’s interesting, but if Fedor becomes a rebellious robot, takes control, returns to the ground and starts hunting for those who made such a technical failure?
    1. -3
      24 August 2019 23: 11
      The site admin fear, as if something had not happened, is driven into the head?
    2. -1
      25 August 2019 00: 44
      It’s like Vysotsky’s, he untied his hands, but hid the forks.
  30. -3
    24 August 2019 23: 05
    Again this lawyer olegovich turned the scheme. Salvage mastered, but did not. It is necessary to arrange an accident so that Vova once again forgives. With the same ride.
  31. -3
    24 August 2019 23: 11
    It was necessary not to send Fedor to the first flight, but Igorka, that dumb guy, would not be afraid of the inevitable fate laughing
  32. -5
    24 August 2019 23: 17
    Fedor will definitely take control and return to Earth.
  33. -1
    24 August 2019 23: 22
     The scenario of using the robot to remotely control it to dock with the ISS would be a good advertising move ...
  34. +11
    24 August 2019 23: 22
    "Information agency" Interfax "cites a statement by the expert in the field of astronautics Ivan Moiseev."

    Apparently this .... expert cannot distinguish "Soyuz" from "Progress". Like some commentators here laughing

    The Soyuz has a CA - Lander. He descends to Earth and lands. So there can be no question of any "flooding in the ocean". The main task for this test flight, namely the development of the SAS at the Soyuz-2.1a, has been completed. There was an additional one - delivery of goods to the station. If they refuse to dock, they will simply land the ship's SA in Kazakhstan.

    But. The failure occurred not on the ship, but in the Kurs-P system on the Search module. The system is not new and, like any radio engineering system, it can fail over time. The module was delivered to the station almost 10 years ago. Previously, a similar system was produced in Kharkov. Where a specific copy of this was produced is unknown, or rather it was not advertised in the media. In Russia, a new digital radio-technical system "Kurs-MKP" has already been tested and is being prepared for launch, the active element of which "Kurs-NA" has long been installed on the "Soyuz MS" is cured of "childhood" diseases and works great.

    Tomorrow, the Soyuz MS-13 crew will practice with manual re-docking. Then he will transfer his ship to the "Search" module manually (red arrow). And in its place, where the Kurs-P system is in order, the Soyuz MS-14 will dock (white arrow):

    1. +4
      24 August 2019 23: 28
      Quote: slipped
      slipped

      Thank. Your comment would be yes instead of stupid articles. You look, and in the comments there would be less foam.
      1. +1
        25 August 2019 01: 02
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Quote: slipped
        slipped

        Thank. Your comment would be yes instead of stupid articles. You look, and in the comments there would be less foam.


        You are welcome. And here I am interested in the light of the latest news about astronaut Anne McClain on VO will be about her or not. laughing
    2. -3
      25 August 2019 01: 58
      Those. judging by the place of production - Kharkov - Ukrainians are again to blame?
      1. 0
        25 August 2019 02: 03
        Quote: Alex Katc
        Those. judging by the place of production - Kharkov - Ukrainians are again to blame?


        Fact is fact. He clarified that it was not Kharkiv Vsezh, but the Kiev Radio Plant, now PJSC Elmiz. The Kurs systems with components manufactured by PJSC Elmiz flew until 2016.
  35. -2
    25 August 2019 00: 04
    He flew away, but promised to return :-)
  36. +2
    25 August 2019 01: 47
    Why should Fedor be confused with the inability to dock? He generally has a different program. What are you joking about? Fedor sent one topic, there is no other docking .....
  37. +1
    25 August 2019 01: 51
    You yourself in production at least once dazzle something cooler than a scapula for a frying pan you tried to do ...
    1. 0
      25 August 2019 01: 53
      I didn’t assemble GED-1 in production at the time ... but I tried
  38. 0
    25 August 2019 02: 29
    - "There are several interesting" tricks "in the" Fedor "program on the ISS, but we will reveal them a little later" - the first one worked !!!.
  39. -2
    25 August 2019 06: 20
    Even if they criticize and suspect a forgery here ... The PR project ended with greetings from orbit.
  40. -2
    25 August 2019 07: 55
    In Sharaga Rogozin another jamb. Someone surprised?
  41. -2
    25 August 2019 08: 23
    Utres has already read about this "ideya".
    Toko, I don’t understand one thing.
    It was planned to return the robot to Earth in 2 weeks.
    Well, right now, what's stopping you from doing this?
    Also, by the way, the stage of testing robotics.
    Or is there something wrong with the ship?
  42. -5
    25 August 2019 09: 51
    I wonder about the docking on the ISS, who controls? ..
    It seems that the American and he was given the command not to let Fedor aboard, by any means .... After all, Russia has a copy and we’ll make Vasya!
  43. -2
    25 August 2019 12: 12
    If FEDORA is drowned, together with a cargo ship that did not dock ...
    Then next time Fyodor’s brother, Vasya will arrive and as soon as he docks ..
    Pray to Allah the Americans ..! (Joke))))

    You can kick ... hi
  44. 0
    25 August 2019 14: 58
    The fact that the new equipment has broken seems to be nothing unusual. It’s good that the ship is without people. Why does the machine do not want to land? This is probably an extremely pessimistic forecast about the failure of many systems and it is better to get rid of the machine in the uninhabited part of the ocean. Who will win? A manager who is obliged to be an optimist, an extarvert - a sanguine person, otherwise you can’t get things moving, or pessimists, melancholy people who are very smart, experienced and prefer to play it safe so as not to let the situation get out of hand?
    1. 0
      25 August 2019 17: 42
      Who is stronger, a whale or an elephant ??? )))
  45. -3
    25 August 2019 20: 32
    ... the spaceship ... with the robot "Fedor" ... will have to be flooded ... in the waters of the Pacific Ocean ...
    Replenishment of a group of spaceships in the waters ... in Rogozinski.