Rogatkin organized a meeting of LDNR militia and former representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the "Russia 24"

Ukrainian media broke out with indignation at the announcement made by VGTRK. TV channel “Russia 24” announced that the program “Oktopnaya Pravda” by Alexander Rogatkin is being prepared for release.

As part of this program, a meeting of representatives of the warring parties in the Donbas is planned in the studio of the Russian television channel - former representatives of the Kiev armed forces, as well as fighters of the people's militia of Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics.

From the report:

Alexander Rogatkin in the Ostankino studio collects VSUshnikov and militias who fought in the Donbass. The general leitmotif - everyone needs peace.

Hysteria reigns on Ukrainian information resources. At the same time, she recalls the option when TC "Russia" and the Ukrainian "News One" announced the holding of a teleconference between Moscow and Kiev. Due to threats from the Ukrainian radicals, the teleconference then had to be abandoned. But now we are talking about the program in the studio exclusively on Russian TV, and therefore the Ukrainian radicals can only shout about the “hack” on social networks and on the pages of media loyal to them.

So, the Ukrainian edition of Facts already announces that a program from the category of “anti-Ukrainian propaganda” is being prepared on Russian television, and calls the meeting in the studio of the former representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Liberal Democratic Party of Lithuania “supposedly a meeting”. The word “peace” itself leads to an absolutely explosive reaction in the Ukrainian media, which suggests the following: in Ukraine, they are trying with all their might to maintain the previously chosen course towards war, a war against their own people.

Comments

[svp67]

Well, I'll see ... And then I will express myself

[Nevsky_ZU]

So much blood has been shed, especially among civilians in the Donbass on the territory of LDNR, including children. From the Ukrainian side, only military losses. How to glue it all together? No way. So far, the ideology in Kiev will not change, but it cannot change, because it is primarily tied to the formation of a political nation with its own history and traditions, where compromise with Russian-Soviet history was broken finally on the Maidan of 2013-2014 of the year, and blurred after 2004 of the year. They crossed the Dnieper with their holidays and traditions in exchange for ours and at the expense of our people. The village defeated the industrial city, which in the 90s the Russians in the East of Ukraine laughed at, saying: "How will Koschey the Immortal or the dragonfly be in Ukrainian?"

So, towards 2014, the front line passed not along the Dnieper, as in the Orange Revolution, but along Russian-speaking families, and depending on how far the region was industrial or office. It is terrible to think that there are now after 5,5 years. And go back to Donbass ?!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Who is interested in Ukraine, the latest video came out:

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

So far, the ideology in Kiev will not change, but it cannot change, because it is primarily tied to the formation of a political nation with its history and traditions.

They could not uproot the fascist Bandera clique from the 1944 of the year, and now it has only strengthened, and so far not one president out of six has been able to and did not even try to fight it, but rather, on the contrary, they are afraid or support it. So, but there can be no talk of any peaceful settlements, the situation will only worsen. If 20 years ago the situation was opposite due to the large percentage of Soviet people living in / in Ukraine, now this percentage has become the opposite and the percentage of Natsik is increasing every year, because the human age is not long and the growth will grow into a bush.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Yes, this is a shot at nothing. Digging rights - millions of Ukrainian citizens really hate the Russian Federation, there’s nothing to talk about while the Nazi agitprop is working, only spend money and time

[Svarog]

The idea itself is correct .. it's time to finish killing the Russians in the Donbas and you need to start somewhere and sometime .. at least with a discussion .. Of course, I would like not one Bandera to be left without punishment, for all those outrages, what they did in relation to civilians. But the scenario that is being drawn now suggests that, most likely, many will evade responsibility ..
Today I saw a new video by Kipelov - "Unconquered", although it is a song about besieged Leningrad, but it also fully relates to Donbas, in my opinion ..

[Honest Citizen]

former representatives of the Kiev armed forces

What kind of nonsense? T.N. representatives - what is this? Aidar fighters and others? So they must immediately be dragged to the court and complete, in accordance ..
If the APU was invited there - it’s not at all clear - Russia, what are you doing, what are your mother?
Or May 14, 2014, Putin still has nightmares?

[Kronos]

So everything is just a course for stuffing the DPR and LPR to Ukraine in exchange for lifting the sanctions for Crimea has not been changed

[carstorm 11]

and someone at least once said the opposite?

[samarin1969]

Quote: Honest Citizen

former representatives of the Kiev armed forces

What kind of nonsense? T.N. representatives - what is this? Aidar fighters and others? So they must immediately be dragged to the court and complete, in accordance ..
If the APU was invited there - it’s not at all clear - Russia, what are you doing, what are your mother?
Or May 14, 2014, Putin still has nightmares?

I absolutely support your indignation. This is simply an outrageous shame for Russian pocket media. How can the systemic criminal community of the "Armed Forces" and the militias be equated? Who is carrying out the purges of the "disloyal" Russians?

[113262a]

And now, right today, CLEARING! In the village of SBU shmonaet.

[Old Michael]

Who is carrying out the purges of the "disloyal" Russians?

So someone threw minuses to Honest ...
Initially, he is right - the show is likely to turn into a disgrace.
Honest now snarls at the cons, but what's the point? He’ll collect another bag.

[carstorm 11]

they do what other forces lack. try to stop the war at least somehow. you don’t even know who will be there but you are already making some sort of accusations. there are enough Ukrainian tantrums above the roof.

[carstorm 11]

You do not know me, but I you. will we measure now? I don’t recommend. where I was and what I didn’t do your thing. what I said is quite peaceful words and appreciation of the work of people. who are trying to do something. I damn generally like how people like you all around. I did it, I did it ... well done that you are doing something too. just boasted less.

[Honest Citizen]

I do not boast, that’s the problem. And I’m not going to be measured by something either.
You just can’t even imagine what you suggested.
Just imagine that in the 1944 year a television channel in England (just suppose that he, a television channel, was there) offered to exchange views between the army of the USSR and Hitler's Germany.
Like to find "peace and understanding".

[carstorm 11]

I have a different approach with yours. I am not going to try to put this war next to me. We are not at war with Ukraine. we do not protect our country from attacks by the stubborn Ukrainian army. how can this be compared at all. there is a conflict and very scary. fact. but Ukrainian. interior. I am glad that they are being helped. that they don’t give up. but this must be completed first of all in the minds of the Ukrainians themselves. somehow hammering into their heads that is enough.

[Honest Citizen]

but this must be completed first of all in the minds of the Ukrainians themselves. somehow hammering into their heads that is enough.

And how will the meeting of the fighters of the NM LDNR and the fighters of the APU contribute to this?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Honest Citizen

And when we here in 2014 collected money for medicines - YOU, the female dog, where was he?

There are no words here, everything is clear.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Honest Citizen

And when we here in 2014 collected money for medicines - YOU, the female dog, where was he?
You are now hammering Klava and writing nonsense, trying to glue "beards" ...
Write, the Internet will endure everything, and you too.
It’s a pity I can’t personally see

Tryndet not tossing bags ... Hera damn it .. He collected money .. well, well ...
A Very "Honest Citizen" ... He will not praise himself ... He cannot eat ... A modest peasant

[Honest Citizen]

Yura
You hurt very personal. I’ll ask you to shut up (I wanted to write how I feel, but I’m afraid I’ll be banned).

[Xnumx vis]

Never boast. Do not bulge ... This is shameful ... I know a lot about New Russia, I know many .. I don’t want to talk ..

[Honest Citizen]

I don’t boast much, all the more I don’t "stick out" And always, well, almost, correct until they "get it"
So I don’t want to talk either.
Keep quiet.

[tihonmarine]

former representatives of the Kiev armed forces

Such does not happen, just as there are no former SSovtsy, and there are only criminals.

[Lipchanin]

Can you clearly tell Putin what?
Past the toilet put Putin to blame? Not tired of looking everywhere for "traces"?
If such "Honest" Tell everyone by what decree Putin organized all this?
Boldly.
Break it and put it so clearly where it is "clear"
You can’t do without mud for a day.
Get out and try to go to the shower

[rocket757]

Trench truth .... whatever they say there, this is serious!
And whatever happens as a result, it is necessary, it will be useful to EVERYONE who is still able, just to think, with his own head.

[Honest Citizen]

Victor, who needs this? Givi, Motorola, Dremin, Brain?
Remind you of what these guys dreamed of in 2014? You generally understand that in the names of the Republics there is the word "People" - namely, the people.
I think that this "truth" that will pour from the screen will be needed by all sorts of reptiles, such as the carpenter's.
No, this is generally an unnecessary undertaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faji89L6x4w

[rocket757]

Everything in the world cannot be combined, for a long time it does not happen!
And for the fallen we will not speak, and for the living too ..... everyone should have their own heads on their shoulders and let everyone draw conclusions for themselves!
BROTHER KILLING WAR MUST END !!!
And everyone who wants to prevent this must be demolished to the unit ....

[Kronos]

So it can end only with the surrender of one of the parties

[New Year day]

Quote: Kronos

So it can end only with the surrender of one of the parties

war to the last bullet? And while the cartridges are being brought up, local businessmen are sawing the loot. How many milen Russian rubles were stolen in the LDNR? "To whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear." And then, the GDP has more than once announced the LPNR as part of Ukraine. Are you confused by the issuance of Russian passports? Think they can be used not only in the LPR

[Kronos]

LDNR as a part of Ukraine is surrender

[New Year day]

Quote: Kronos

LDNR as a part of Ukraine is surrender

There are several options that explain the reasons, form and timing of such a decision:
1. Preparation of the Russian Federation for negotiations with the new Ukrainian administration (Zelensky) from the point of view of the Russian understanding of strength and position "from above."
2: The signal from the US and the EU that Russia does not intend to give up its interests in eastern Ukraine.
3. Increasing the loyalty of 3,5-4 million inhabitants of AEDLO. In LDNR, public fatigue has accumulated due to uncertainty, a sluggish war, a huge number of unresolved social problems and the absence of bright leaders, leading to social exclusion and disappointment, and reduced stability of management systems. In this context, the certification of the Russian Federation is a way out of the socio-political impasse for the residents of the region. Especially for the “backbone” of the political and social system - the military, managers, state employees, and youth.
4. Preparation for the implementation of the Minsk agreements. This can be an emergency exit for pro-Russian citizens of Ukraine, as well as for bureaucratic and managerial elites in the Donbass in the event of the reintegration of Donbass into Ukraine. Those citizens who do not want to return to Ukraine will have an additional way out of the situation in the event of a political settlement of the issue: they can either move to Russia or use the status of a Russian citizen while living in Donetsk or in Lugansk, without returning legally to the Ukrainian legal field. At the same time, a scheme can be created in which the Donbass can return to Ukraine as a territory, but most people living there will not legally return to Ukraine. These citizens of the Russian Federation will provide a safety mechanism for Russian control over the region in case of its return to Ukraine.

[boss]

then we capitulated at the conclusion of the Minsk agreements or Surkov’s impasse, as you like best.
Arguing here on the theme of war and peace, you bothered to read the TEXT of the MINSK AGREEMENTS ?!
apparently not, otherwise they would not have pushed the non-sliding.
ALL signatories of the Minsk agreements signed the territorial integrity of Ukraine!
moreover, they acted as GUARANTEES of territorial integrity.
learn mate part

[Sergst]

It is you who somehow interpret the Minsk Agreement in an expanded manner. There is nothing about the guarantee of integrity. Yes, and Ukraine, if these agreements were fully implemented, would become (theoretically, of course!) A completely different state.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Silvestr

Think they can be used not only in LDN

How can they be used? How's the bomb?

[Honest Citizen]

So tell us, HOW should the meeting of fighters of the LM LDNR and APU contribute to peace?
Once again, I just wrote the answer ...
1944 - can you imagine a "peaceful debate" between soldiers of the Red Army and Germany, on the topic of "peace and pacification"?
You simply hide certain thoughts behind "beautiful" words. That's all.

[rocket757]

At the moment, the conflict does NOT have a military solution! So if they don’t agree, it will last forever!
The question is - who benefits from this ???
Who will answer correctly?
Ranting is not accepted! Exactly and specifically!

[Honest Citizen]

The question is - who benefits from this ???
Who will answer correctly?

War benefits everyone. West, Russia, all but the people of LDNR.

[rocket757]

Quote: Honest Citizen

War benefits everyone. West, Russia, all but the people of LDNR.

Wrong answer! There is no such financial person / recipient Russia, the West, and even more so some kind of people!

[Honest Citizen]

Victor.
The West will not accept Ukraine into the EU and NATO - this is CLEAR to everyone except Ukraine itself, but "you have unresolved territorial issues" - legally sounds more beautiful than "why are you here?" Is not it?
Ukraine is not in the EU - the benefit of Europe, Ukraine is not in NATO - the benefit of Russia.
Well, HOW are you going to measure this money?

[rocket757]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Well, HOW are you going to measure these things with money

The question was not about global aspects, such as a member is not a member of something there.
The specifics. Who is cashing in on military operations, on military supplies, on a general mess (the war will write everything off) in the public administration, violent Russophobia ..... so specifically, for real babosiks! That is, specific faces, specific structures!
It is clear that faces and structures are part of something in common, but they are very busy with personal enrichment, and they use something in common as a cover.

[Honest Citizen]

Victor.
Why do you need specifics? What will she give you? Hold accountable :? Obama, Biden? It’s ridiculous. Who makes money on war?
Hmm ...
When Napoleon went to Moscow instead of going to London, who won in the end?
When Hitler started the "war with England" in 1940 and attacked the USSR in 1941, "so as not to get stabbed in the back" - who won?
Are you talking about?
Everything is measured by geopolitics. And there the dividends are completely different.

[rocket757]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Why do you need specifics

You blurted out nonsense! Is it profitable for Russia - me and many others are the same, an integral part of Russia, is it profitable for us? It is the same in the West, you will not believe it, but also on the Fire ..... for any "case" there are SPECIFIC BENEFITS-RECIPIENTS!
I was taught not to mix sour with black!
I, we, many, cannot do much, incl. to call to account the "upper radishes" somewhere over the hill, we can’t even influence our own ones! But there is always hope to wait, and maybe even contribute, that the well-deserved "award" will find its "heroes"!
You need to know exactly who and what you deserve, but what if ....
...

[Honest Citizen]

You blurted out stupidity! It is beneficial to Russia - I and many of them are the same, an integral part of Russia, is it profitable for us?

Excuse me again, but ...
And who told you that the benefit is for you, for me, for millions of Russian citizens ...
coincides with geopolitical benefits.
Here is just a concrete example: what is Syria for you? Or from Libya? Or from Yugoslavia?
Personally to you?
What is the benefit?
So if you do not quite understand geopolitics, well, you just don’t have to make pros by populism.

[rocket757]

Quote: Honest Citizen

So if you do not quite understand geopolitics - well, you just don’t have to make pros by populism

Everything, no further ... I remain with my "trench truth", it is much more honest than what you seem like a great specialist

[Honest Citizen]

Those. Are you unable to answer the questions asked?
I agree there’s nothing to talk about with you.

[rocket757]

You dodge specifics .... do not answer on the topic, jumping to something else, global! This is to mix "sour with black"!
I’ll pick / catch you on another topic, skip to the next? It should be interesting to me ??? No!
A specific question is a concrete answer!
Jewish jumps are not interesting to me.

[anykin]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Those. Are you unable to answer the questions asked?

Anyone who knows the specifics may not know the geopolitics. Anyone who knows geopolitics, knows the specifics and gives specific answers, and does not let the fog.

[boss]

exactly
who benefits?
especially when you consider that on both sides they speak RUSSIAN

[rocket757]

Quote: patron

exactly
who benefits?
especially when you consider that on both sides they speak RUSSIAN

Yes, at least for someone, no matter what they say! You need to know these faces for sure! What if they call them to judge !!!

[monah]

But in fact, at 45, such a debate took place quite peacefully when signing the act of surrender, it is a pity but your spiritual fathers lost!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Honest Citizen

1944 - you can imagine a "peaceful debate" between the fighters Red Army and Germany, on the topic of "peace and tranquility"?

Are you pretending?
There are fighting the citizens of one country. Is this at least clear ????
Or explain the difference between the attack of one camp on another and the Civil War is not clear ??
That everything is not going from where you should have thoughts.

[New Year day]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Victor, who needs this? Givi, Motorola, Dremin, Brain?
Remind you of what these guys dreamed of in 2014? You generally understand that in the names of the Republics there is the word "People" - namely, the people.

and what is the result? How is it that the "people's" power saws money and does not think about the people? Unfortunately, there is no place for idealism, and cynics and practitioners have taken power.
Where is Russian Spring at the Central Television of the Russian Federation? She is not there. People do not think about the people anywhere.

[rocket757]

An additional "bonus" of the mess / war .... everything can be attributed to it, the best of the best go to the front ranks and there, often, die!
Those who shout a lot behind the "baricades" drive in their direction and there is no time and no one to stop them !!!!
Such a war, it is a mess everywhere, in the economy and in the heads!

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

everything can be attributed to it, the best of the best go to the front ranks and there, often, they die!

Alas! It's like that ...
"Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate villains are using its fruits" - British writer, historian, philosopher Thomas Carlyle.

[Honest Citizen]

Where is Russian Spring at the Central Television of the Russian Federation?

It ended on 14 on May 2014 of the year. Visit of the President of Switzerland to Russia.

[New Year day]

Quote: Honest Citizen

It ended on 14 on May 2014 of the year. Visit of the President of Switzerland to Russia.

they themselves wrote everything. Then where do these illusions about LDNR come from? I'm sorry, but it turns out

[Honest Citizen]

Then where do these illusions about LDNR come from?

Yes, everything from there, from Brain, Sandman, Pavlov (Motorola), Givi. The bastards came to power there, and even Putin shot in the back (May 14, 2014). The people's republics that were proclaimed there - nobody needed them, except the people themselves ...
Therefore, the "cunning" little people have "cleaned up" everything. And now this conflict is beneficial to everyone. Except for the people who live there.

[New Year day]

Quote: Honest Citizen

This conflict benefits everyone. Except the people who live there.

Unfortunately, but it is. Why did the children die ?! But no one will answer for this!

[Honest Citizen]

Why did the children die ?!

э
I can answer, but zamusunutut to zero.
Although, do not care about the cons.
Everyone who died there, on the one hand, on the other hand, all died for geopolitics.
I will not write for the United States and other EU-I will write for Russia, and specifically for Putin.
This war, in such a protracted version, is geopolitically advantageous to him. It is clear to everyone that LDNR is actually already the territory of Russia, although they do not speak about this directly, even indirectly, but whoever has eyes sees it.
Politics, let alone geopolitics, is generally a dirty thing. There, if necessary, they will also lower the skin from the child.
By the way, Machiavelli wrote about this, so I didn’t come up with it.
Minus one. You, one thing, can’t prove anything.

[New Year day]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Minus

Plus

[Alexander Ra]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Everyone who died there ... everyone died for geopolitics.
... for Russia, and specifically for Putin.

If everything is geopolitics, then you have not missed. As for Putin, it’s quite the case when monism in governance doesn’t work - there wasn’t enough intelligence and will to deal with the consequences of the treacherous separatism of the three. Stalin had enough for more, GDP didn’t. We need a lesson, we need collective stabilization mechanisms, we need a strong immune social protection, which, in particular, is the 282nd art. suppressed.

[Alexander Ra]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Where is Russian Spring at the Central Television of the Russian Federation?

It ended on May 14, 2014.

Remember - "I left early, to the star ..."? Killed. Mozgovoy, Dremov, Pavlov, Givi, Zakharchenko and their departed and living comrades-in-arms - the first rays of the dawn of New Russia after a thousand-year darkness - these are our ascetics. There will be more and more light, time will not stop. Who said the “Russian Spring” is over? The time will come for the end of vile turmoil in Russia.

[Honest Citizen]

Brain, Dream, Pavlov, Givi

They were for the "People's" Republic - the rest saw only an excuse for personal enrichment.

[Kronos]

This is from the category of complacencies like everything’s getting better

[Alexander Ra]

Other The principle of equifinality is valid, or our national archetype will work out and a normal lifestyle will be restored, or the alternative is ethnic annihilation. It will not work out itself (spontaneous processes lead to an increase in entropy), revival should be helped, and not for money.

[72jora72]

and what is the result? How is it that the "people's" power saws money and does not think about the people? Unfortunately, there is no place for idealism, and cynics and practitioners have taken power.

Or maybe this is the fault of our government? Maybe Russia needed to somehow more clearly express its position in the years 14-15? If Russia didn't need Donbass, then there was no need to instill vain hopes in people ?? After all, people for the most part believed (and some still believe) that Donbass will return Home, to Russia. And we just tried to freeze the situation. You should have seen those "advisers" which Moscow sent (yes, probably even now the contingent is no better) to Donetsk to help the Corps, horror and darkness .........

[gurzuf]

Let them say - so that the nonsense of everyone was visible. This is a type of litmus paper.

[rocket757]

Quote: gurzuf

Let them say - so that the nonsense of everyone was visible. This is a type of litmus paper.

Let them swear, even if the faces are clean !!!
And what about us, Russians, then it happens very often!?!?!?
True, she is such a thing, she will take her forever!
So we'll see on whose side she is!

[Honest Citizen]

Gurzuf.
Maybe you’ve stained, but I’ll remind you. When in Donetsk and Lugansk they wanted to hold a referendum, like the Crimean ...
Do you remember what Putin said? Or to remind?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Do you remember what Putin said? Or to remind?

Putin requested postpone referendum as untimely.

So what?

We have already discussed it, almost five years ago ... when will you, fighters for all the good, calm down already?

[Honest Citizen]

Putin asked to postpone the referendum as untimely.

Can you answer then WHY the referendum in Crimea was held on "URA", and here SUDDENLY such a request?

[gurzuf]

Your version!

[Honest Citizen]

Your version!

Troll?
Google yourself May 14, 2014 - visit of the President of Switzerland to Putin.
And at the same time, well, whoever has some kind of memory, many have it “selective” - remember the press and news before May 14 and after ...

[Cat man null]

Quote: Honest Citizen

WHY the referendum in Crimea was passed with "Hurray", and then SUDDENLY such a request?

No need to drip, it's impolite.

I have already explained this (repeatedly) in 14, EMNIP, year. My commentary is available, sing if you wish.

Quote: Honest Citizen

Google yourself on 14 on May 2014 - Swiss President visits Putin

There is such a version. But to me personally, she seems a bit far-fetched

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Victor, who needs this? Givi, Motorola, Dremin, Brain?
Remind you of what these guys dreamed of in 2014? You generally understand that in the names of the Republics there is the word "People" - namely, the people.

Do not put Dremov on a par with the national heroes Givi, Motorola and Mozgov! You don't know very well how he started and what goals he pursued. He was not originally a "populist", he was against the LPR, opposed Bolotov, Mozgovoy, Russian interference and even "personally" Putin. He, the whole 14th dreamed of a separate, subordinate to him personally Cossack republic within one city. Fortunately, the realities were forced to subside, otherwise the result would have been like the ataman of Krasny Luch, Kosogor or the ataman of Pervomaisk, Timofeev.

[Thrifty]

Dumb idea! It was not enough that these despicable little deceased from all over the world could walk with impunity on our land! Kaylo and a pickaxe sobbing on them in distant Magadan for the next 25 years!

[monah]

Relatively different samplers, 100% agree! The soldiers and the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine took the Oath to the people and the government gave orders on his behalf, some had the courage to leave and get a term for desertion, some thought of their families. In addition, the examples of those who fought for the Donbas and were extorted by corrupt judges to tear to pieces in Ukraine are too instructive! Russia has betrayed them!

[rocket757]

Everything is different, such a concept / obligation as an oath and no one has canceled the order!
We begin to judge from ourselves ... and after all, FIND FOR WHAT!
Everyone should get what they deserve, but you need to start with those who gave orders!
Maybe the conversation will be useless, but there can be no harm!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: monah

Relatively different samplers 100% agree! The soldiers and the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gave the Oath to the people and on his behalf the government gave orders

I support it too. But all the rest of the so-called "volunteerism is something that is not clear, even in the 3rd Reich there were" volunteer Waffen SS units "but they also swore the oath, and to whom they gave different" dobrobats, aidars, basics, right sectors. "Again, confusion as with “Makhnovists, Petliurists, Greens.” You represent who will be gathered on TV, and there will be no rightists, “they are all in the woods, some for firewood.”

[rocket757]

Everyone should get what he deserves! And get it! There are different courts!

[Alexey from Perm]

If this is an honest transfer, then we'll see, but if it will be paid by VSUshniki with a previously known scenario, then such a transfer is not needed.

[cloud catcher]

When politicians from two countries "talk" - one shout stands in the studio, and here are former (?) Military men? By what means will hot heads be stopped?

[rocket757]

Shout, pour out the "soul" .... you can start with this! Then do not stop and believe me, the truth will come out, how do not try to cram it deeper!
Better bitter truth than a sea of ​​sweet lies!

[Honest Citizen]

Shout, pour out the "soul" .... you can start with this!

So let them shout and pour out their souls on the demarcation line, and not in a television studio in Moscow.
Is that hard to understand too?

[rocket757]

And where they can, let them gather there!
The ultimate goal is to achieve the real world, so that people do not die and are able to live normally !!!! Yes, even on Mars .... no one should interfere.

[Honest Citizen]

Ultimate goal, achieve real world

Once again: 1944. Can you imagine a televised debate between policemen and partisans?
It’s all for the sake of the world, isn’t it?

[AU Ivanov.]

I can’t imagine the television debate. There were no such technologies. But there were still certain dialogues, after them the policeman Gil-Rodionov and the team went on to the partisans.

[rocket757]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

I can’t imagine the television debate. There were no such technologies. But there were still certain dialogues, after them the policeman Gil-Rodionov and the team went on to the partisans.

There were no television debates ... but negotiations and ultimatums WERE! The results were also different!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Cloud Catcher

When politicians from two countries "talk" - one shout stands in the studio, and here are former (?) Military men? By what means will hot heads be stopped?

As far as I know from my time, our heads, on the contrary, were cold, we couldn't get out of balance with "bangs". According to you, it turns out that now the military, that the children.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Alexey from Perm

if it will be paid VSUshniki with a previously known scenario, then such a transfer is not needed.

How else? Television in another way does not work.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Victor, who needs this? Givi, Motorola, Dremin, Brain?
Remind you of what these guys dreamed of in 2014? You generally understand that in the names of the Republics there is the word "People" - namely, the people.
I think that this "truth" that will pour from the screen will be needed by all sorts of reptiles, such as the carpenter's.
No, this is generally an unnecessary undertaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Faji89L6x4w

You are deeply mistaken. timely stock. Especially at a time when the belief in a military victory there, in Ukraine, was seriously shaken. The second plus is that on the other side there will be former. Bitter, and, some, disappointed.
The third plus is, from THIS side, the real ones. Which by virtue of their conviction, not at all disappointed in their actions. And, therefore, ACTING.
And finally, no matter how they behave, talking TEMERATELY with their opponents, or, conversely, with understanding and guilt for what they did, is a win-win program that transparently shows what.
It’s like the participants in the programs - such as the bald little nonsense, raging at the microphone in the studio better than the best explaining to everyone what such bastards are.

[rocket757]

Emotions and frenzy will not help anyone!
We must say, we must think, we must decide!
I need peace!

[Normal ok]

Hysteria reigns on Ukrainian information resources.

Where does she reign? I just learned this news from an article on VO.

[thinker]

The Facts publication already announces that a program is being prepared on Russian television

So it turns out the shooting has already passed, promise today show.
https://fakty.ua/315627-opyat-nado-pogovorit-v-studii-rostv-sobrali-bojcov-vsu-i-boevikov-dnr---lnr

[Victor March 47]

Quote: monah

Russia has betrayed them!

What oak collapsed? So to say, it is unambiguous to prove your presence there. This is an internal affair of Ukraine. It is not necessary to have a head, or straw in it, to talk about betrayal.
That's when a considerable number of Russian citizens will appear in the Donbass, only then we will have legal right. Protect yours. Keep the moral at home. When you use vodaru without measure.

[ananias mudishev]

And that the Russians killed a little? I do not mean volunteers, but how many are in prison. How many more Russians should be killed or imprisoned so that we have the right?

[monah]

You probably don’t know that militia fighters are systematically sent from Russia by decision of the courts to reprisal in Ukraine?

[72jora72]

only then will we have legal law. Protect yours.

To protect YOUR OWN you do not need any "legal right", you need to protect your own everywhere, always, and by any means.

[New Year day]

a good idea, A bad world is always better than a good war. And then you have to start talking

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Silvestr

And then, you have to start talking

You just have to say harshly, "Stop the fire," and the talking shop will be 10 years away.

[rocket757]

The question is - who is so tough who they listen to ???

[Kronos]

Of course, an operation like the one that was against Georgia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

The question is - who is so tough who they listen to ???

Here is the answer.

[rocket757]

When there is no answer, this is also the answer! It happens.

[gurzuf]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Do you remember what Putin said? Or to remind?

Putin, then what?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Ananias Mudishev

And that the Russians killed a little? I do not mean volunteers, but how many are in prison. How many more Russians should be killed or imprisoned so that we have the right?

We have no formal rights to speak out in defense of our dead war veterans. Officially, we do not participate. If you volunteered, then this is your business. Cynically? Maybe. But it is so.
Are you indignant about the American participants in the Maidan? But these are "volunteers". Aren't they dying? Have you heard the American claims against Russia or the LPNR about their death? Correspondents are dying? Here we can and speak. Efforts are being made, but in the name of them to raise hostilities?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: rocket757

Emotions and frenzy will not help anyone!
We must say, we must think, we must decide!
I need peace!

Christ meet, as they used to say in antiquity. Promote. And without such actions, these bastards will peck you. Counteraction. Effective, massive and productive.
The only way.
And about frenzy, let them calm down there. At home.
With the help of guillotines and flamethrowers. Chewing snot with them is to show their weakness.
The Germans after 1945 became somewhat different than in 1941, right? Is this example enough?

[Zaurbek]

Why are UkraiSMI so afraid of telebridges? They have their own truth. We need to open our eyes.
I barely got rid of one Ukrainian specialist at the seminar. Gored me.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Ananias Mudishev

And that the Russians killed a little? I do not mean volunteers, but how many are in prison. How many more Russians should be killed or imprisoned so that we have the right?

So, how much?
Or just ............ much more?

[CommanderDIVA]

This event is probably sanctioned at the very top. It’s hardly an initiative of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company and Rogatkin personally, and it’s a well-calculated political step towards the zombie and frenzied neighbor in the person of the former representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and we must always make peace after any war

[BRDM2M]

Here in LDNR they reacted extremely negatively to this comedy. You want to be friends with dill - be friends, just do not shove us there

[Victor March 47]

Quote: monah

You probably don’t know that militia fighters are systematically sent from Russia by decision of the courts to reprisal in Ukraine?

What about examples?
Shit to pour and not to get dirty yourself, talent is needed.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Lipchanin

Can you clearly tell Putin what?
Past the toilet put Putin to blame? Not tired of looking everywhere for "traces"?
If such "Honest" Tell everyone by what decree Putin organized all this?
Boldly.
Break it and put it so clearly where it is "clear"
You can’t do without mud for a day.
Get out and try to go to the shower

Such bastards have little soul. A gas chamber can only help them. Or a guillotine.

[mintai_kot]

By all means, Russia is trying to push our Donbass back into Ukraine. All this is geopolitics, and we are consumables, in contrast to the Galicians, we need a voter voting against their candidates

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