Chinese aircraft carrier Shandong tested Anderson's maneuver and J-15 take-off and landing

China has announced the completion of the longest sea test of the latest Shandong aircraft carrier (Type-001A). The aircraft carrier created in China was at sea for about 22 days.

The Chinese media write that during this test several tests were carried out to take off the aircraft from the deck of a Chinese ship and, accordingly, to land on the deck. It is emphasized that after such tests on the Shandong deck, the fighter left traces of the tires of its chassis.

It is also reported that the so-called Anderson’s maneuver with the minimum radius possible for such a warship was tested during the tests. Anderson's maneuver is called one of the methods of saving a person overboard.

Testing "take-off and landing" was carried out by the J-15 carrier-based fighter, the base model of which is the Su-33. This plane with folded wings can be seen in the photographs of the Shandong aircraft carrier, which returned after the tests. Also on the Type-001A deck you can see a couple of helicopters of the Navy of the People's Liberation Army of China.

According to recent reports, the Shandong aircraft carrier should be part of the Chinese naval forces this fall. At the Chinese shipyards, another aircraft carrier is being built according to the "Soviet scheme". China intends to implement further options for aircraft carriers with a flat deck - according to the "American scheme."

Comments

[knn54]

As they say in the Shandong Navy, the Chinese aircraft carrier is "from keel to klotik."

[maxim947]

You cannot fool yourself ... psychologically, anyway, unpleasant news. On the one hand, we lost competencies, on the other, their achievements in our own pattern ...
And for us, a good next example, even more correct to say, is a challenge that needs to be accepted and worked, worked, worked. There is no other way.

[Honest Citizen]

a challenge that needs to be accepted and work, work, work. There is no other way.

Trillions of money have been poured into Chinese industry. There are now almost 60% of the world's production. Plus the fact that they "stole", "commandeered" and received a "Lend-Lease". We really can't do it. Unfortunately.

[maxim947]

And there is no need to "pull" our technological production for the most part in the "Stone Age" that is where we need to work. It's not about competing with China, but about its better development. To pay tribute to China, they squeezed the maximum out of their capabilities, this is what they adopted technologies, incl. many of us have created a good investment climate in their country, so much so that the whole business rushed there and, most importantly, met the expectations of investors, plus the money they earned were competently and effectively invested in their production, science and the army.

[dorz]

The Chinese are building a global fleet to protect their interests around the world.

[Proton]

And someone prevented our leadership from doing the same thing, and not pulling these trilliards from the fur stores and yachts? As for not pulling, this is a grandmother for two said, there will be a change of course, we will pull another.

[Honest Citizen]

there will be a change of course, pull as

Yeah. Stalin to the head of state, Beria, as the curator of projects - then we will pull. Otherwise, with the bears and Putin we will leave for the swamp, without options.

[Chaldon48]

How and where will the equally significant figures in the current government come from, what kind of social elevator can lift them to the necessary height?

[Honest Citizen]

How and where will equally important figures in the current government come from

Only a revolution.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Bidenstan is already there, now you need Trampoland?
It seems that you did not live under Gorbachev-Yeltsin. Well, those who had America's interests above all else. It was worth a visit to an employee of the State Department of the sixth level (just above the cleaning lady) to come - he was given factories, hotels, deposits. Then Onishchenko had to work hard to return Sakhalin to Russian jurisdiction.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Only a revolution.

And the "bloody boys before their eyes" will not stand after that !?
Even the great ZY recently sang that our country could not endure the third revolution in such a short historical time!
And he knows what he is talking about, unlike you.

[krillon]

Right word, zadolbali with Stalin and others like them. To create the greatness of the country behind barbed wire or in a prison sharag, to strive for this and be proud of it? Or did someone decide that it would not affect him?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Proton

there will be a change of course, we will pull as.

The navies have this signal on the MSS: "Your course leads to danger!"
1. It is necessary for someone authoritative to openly tell the moon-faced about this
2. It is necessary that society is imbued with the awareness of the need for "this".
3. It is necessary for the moon-faced to stop listening to Kudrin and heed the same advice Glazyev.
4. It is necessary for the State Duma to turn to questions of changing the course of the face, and not the fifth point!
5. It is necessary that the Successor has the will and desire to change course ... For the moon-faced in the rest of his reign will certainly not do this ...
You see how many IFs!

[eagle owl]

The Chinese model in the Russian Federation does not take root at all, because it is specifically cannibalistic, antisocial. Do our bots howl for a retirement age equal to Germany and less than in the USA? But in China, many pensions do not have EVERYTHING, and will not. There are about a billion !!! A person does not EAT every day, and when they find money for food, they are not lobsters.
China is paying for the breakthrough with a non-socially oriented state and a catastrophic stratification, you know what the Ginny coefficient is? The income stratification index in China doubled from the 80s to zero, and is now overtaking all of Europe. The United States and the very Russia that everyone is pushing for this stratification -

Even according to official statistics from Beijing, it is 0.474. For comparison: in Russia, this parameter is 0.422. In the “decaying” European Union - 0.31. China is the record holder for the number of billionaires and the number of people living below the poverty line.

By the way, in the United States, too, about 0,5))) In the Russian Federation, a revolution would have been

[Big Cat]

Work is good of course. But political will and adequate funding are needed.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Big Cat

But political will and adequate funding are needed.

"Comrade Poskrebyshev, what did V mean?" - I.V. Stalin - from the unpublished. (from)
1. If the collapse and color Kattovasia - then this is the Yankees with great pleasure ...
2. If to strengthen the socio-political unity of the people and improve their lives - it is necessary to redistribute income and introduce a progressive tax scale, as in the same Norway-Sweden. So this oligarchy will crush all PMCs, we won’t even have time to squeak!
3. If through the "change of course", as suggested here - then see the post above!

[Big Cat]

Well done Chinese - build a fleet at a faster pace. Spend a lot of money for this. And it doesn’t matter if someone’s copying technologies or not. For them, the fleet is crucial for confronting the United States and ensuring the country's maritime security.

[Voronezh-90]

Stop! Where's the fire truck? There, next to the island, under the canopy there should be a fire! Not an order! Quite the Chinese people do not think about safety! And tractors with a jet engine in front - not to be seen. Do not clean the deck? What's happening?

[donavi49]

Fire truck from poverty. The Chinese are copying the American system of organizing the fleet - so they developed their own special machine, multi-functional.

Here is an American system specially designed and optimized for an aircraft carrier:

Here is chinese

Here is a budget Russian solution

By the way, Indians bought P25 (American cars) for Vikra.

[New Year day]

Quote: donavi49

Fire truck from poverty.

yes, no words. In some cases, ahead of the rest, in others, they could not make a fire engine. And this is for the fleet when it seemed. money poured in.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Silvestr

could not make a fire truck.

It turns out so. If on "Kiev" the fire engine was an Italian "Silvani", then on Kuza, I see, they have completely simplified to a domestic "sprinkler" based on KamAZ!

[Mountain shooter]

Not at all annoying. Let them fly and master this type of aircraft carrier. Indirectly - and we are a demonstration of its advantages and disadvantages ... Well, the role of aircraft carriers for Russia is not too clear yet. Having an advantage in the strategic nuclear forces, is it worth it to equal the fleet of a MARINE power? When Russia is a land power. That's when Russia begins to prepare for the capture of the United States - then the fleet will be needed ...

[Honest Citizen]

That's when Russia will begin to prepare for the capture of the United States

Why do we have to capture them? For the sake of territories? So then, Canada should be with Alaska. In short, to the Mexican border.
But this is in the long run. So far, we would have to develop and settle our territory, preferably for people with white skin, and not for the Chinese ...

[rMN]

those. Do you propose that small peoples of Siberia be evicted from their land?

[Honest Citizen]

Roma, if you are not a Troll, I will answer you, but now I do not want to paint anything.
You just googled, if you suddenly became interested about three world practices of assimilation of lands and peoples.

[neri73-r]

I'm afraid the Chinese with the capture of the US will get ahead of us!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: neri73-r

I'm afraid the Chinese with the capture of the United States will get ahead of us

The Japanese have already begun to buy real estate and production in the United States ... Recall what they did to Japan.
Tales about their prosperity leave to those who were not there ... I do not know who lives there WELL, but the manager who took me took a bath, after me, without draining the water - HOT WATER SHOULD BE!
But in reality they were actively catching up with the United States. And now in complete stagnation. And in terms of industrial production, they are far behind Russia.
Also, China will not be allowed to capture anything in the United States. Neither buy nor build ...

[neri73-r]

I'm afraid the Chinese will not ask.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

The Chinese would save their own. Nicaraguan Canal will be built - and Uncle Sam is right there, with the decision of the New York City Court to seize property for raping a girl in 1952.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The Japanese have already begun to buy real estate and production in the United States

and Americans with Europeans - in Africa ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

When Russia is a land power.

And besides this is also GREAT MARINE POWER!
Do not believe me?
Well then read "Fundamentals of the state policy of the Russian Federation in naval activities for the period up to 2030" (announced by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 20.07.2017 of 327).
Here and about hypersonic missiles for the 2025 year, and about ekranoplanes, s and about marine aircraft-bearing systems, and about the NSR, and about the fact that it is necessary to provide the Navy second place in the world in combat capabilities (!) - note: not by tonnage or number of units! Namely, according to the indicator that "kills" the adversary!
And you say "PEACOCKS!" (from).

[Mentat]

Quote: maxim947

You cannot fool yourself ... psychologically, anyway, unpleasant news. On the one hand, we lost competencies, on the other, their achievements in our own pattern ...
And for us, a good next example, even more correct to say, is a challenge that needs to be accepted and worked, worked, worked. There is no other way.

Lost in what area of ​​competence? What a fog, express your thoughts more clearly.

What achievements of China should be “psychologically unpleasant” for someone, for you personally, for some special group of people? Who do not understand that China built a copy of the first, not an aircraft carrier, but an aircraft-carrying cruiser, from which they threw out "extra details", creating a hybrid hedgehog with a snake, and secondly, the development of the 80s of the last century. Against the background of the general lack of any opportunity to build aircraft carriers, this is an achievement, but it is not clear to whom it should bring mental torment)

[maxim947]

We have been building BDK Gren for 15 years, and with other ships they are constantly shifting. Is this not enough for you? Do you think everything is fine with us? We are not able to build an aircraft carrier right now - aren't these lost competencies? I would like your idealism ...
There are a lot of problems and we must honestly look at it and draw the right conclusions.

[donavi49]

Shanghai - 9 destroyers on 64 and 112 universal vertical launchers in the completion afloat. Unlike Gorshkov, they have the opportunity now, and not in the bright future, to launch their version of Caliber, heavy SAMs + their version of a rocket torpedo for the long-range anti-aircraft defense from one cell. The Navy now does not have such capabilities, for example. China has a bunch of 052D in the ranks + head 055 at the 112 VPU in the ranks.

Mistral, technology received, build ourselves and more. China is making its MistralWoosp, while the USC is trying to bring Grena (Morgunova) and not expeditionary fish or meat.

While the peak of the construction of the auxiliary fleet is the middle tanker Pashin at 9000t, China is introducing the second fastest KUG / AUG integrated supply ship in the ocean zone with a cruising speed of 25 knots (Pashinin has a maximum 16 maximum) and 50k displacement.

I am already silent about the 60 corvettes that they have already collected and a bunch of 054A workhorses that can’t climb out of the oceans, from Europe to Peru.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: donavi49

Shanghai - 9 destroyers on 64 and 112 universal vertical launchers in the completion afloat.

Colleague,
Strong, capacious, convincing comment! And well illustrated ... Definitely - "+"!
That's just the question: But what about China with submarine shipbuilding?
Or do you think the dreadnought war is the quintessence of the essence of the sea database in the 21 century? So I will greatly disappoint you: all smart ones hid under the water! For a submarine, covered from above by its aircraft, is a universal weapon! - it will work for you along the shore to the full depth of the adversary’s territory, and the enemy’s NK in 3-4 times further will detect and attack suddenly from under the water ...
So, the "great mighty Soviet Union" was right when he intensively developed the MPA and submarine forces. Then the amas were afraid of him in all corners of the globe, then they reckoned with him ...
And what can the Chinese Navy oppose to Si Wulfs or Virginias? - "Buckets with nuts", rumbling on all the SKM?
And no one has escaped from the MK-48 mod7! Yes, and Harpoon emerging from under the water will stick to where he was sent ...
Therefore, while in the Middle Kingdom they do not realize that the Navy SHOULD BE BALANCED! They can’t see their victory over the Ami, like their Chinese ears! Yeah
Best regards,

[PSih2097]

Quote: Mentat

secondly, the development of the 80s of the last century.

and the line of "Nimitzs" how old are there, since 75 of the last century ???

[aries2200]

Russia itself is a super aircraft carrier .. to any sea board is .............

[nobody111body]

that they build something at good, but the current is good for them — we are not parrots and we don’t need to repeat what others are doing; huge and stupid money down the drain; the Chinese have some mistakes, well, a bunch of American Jews owe them more than a trillion and that Comrade Si thinks that they will get these trillions when they return the thread, not to see them as their ears, scam all the democracy in the United States and thriving capitalism in addition

[DPN]

We in Russia curse the SOVIET, and CHINA uses the Soviet and which of us. ???? did not accept one word is not obscene means recognized who!

[Mentat]

Quote: maxim947

We have been building BDK Gren for 15 years, and with other ships they are constantly shifting. Is this not enough for you?

Are you able to distinguish between the concepts of "financing" and "technical competence"? Judging by your statements, you get confused in the elementary.

We are not able to build an aircraft carrier right now - aren't these lost competencies?

Who told you such nonsense? Are able. According to a modern project. However, the issue of the need for these courts has not yet been resolved at the army or political leadership level.

There are a lot of problems and we must honestly look at it and draw the right conclusions.

That's it, honestly watch, not vote.

[DPN]

You are almost right. The USSR survived the Second World War of 1945, but what did WE survive or surrender?

[donavi49]

Who told you such nonsense? Are able. According to a modern project. However, the issue of the need for these courts has not yet been resolved at the army or political leadership level.

Well, let's take a specific project that received 100% funding, it is very necessary and a priority for the Navy. Missile ships 22800.

Initially, it was supposed to be massive, cheap, capable of production on most shipyards shipyard, and now, and not after 10 years. Therefore, they took the ready-made hull of 12300 Ave. (the laid-down ships were dismantled on the slipways in the 00's - because then there was no money). They increased, finalized and defended the project / gave the design documentation to the plants in record time.

However, then everything broke.
The giant series of 18 ships on the 6 Shipyard - just got up. The construction dates went to 4 years. At the same time, only for Pella - which was able to beat the priority of delivery of propulsion systems. For otherwise, at Pella, the main plant becomes cancer and other orders are disrupted (there is no place). Downtimes were provided for other plants (Renat Mistakhov recently said in an interview that they had fallen from 22800 and that the deadlines were likely to be shifted again, a simple one would be a loss for the plant, not compensation).

Is it possible to talk about the loss of competencies here? After all, suppliers failed. Needless to say, forgotten how to make high-speed installations that were developed under Khrushchev and the circulation probably exceeded 1000 under the USSR? Or just won? Like a note! Only for the best!

[Mentat]

Quote: donavi49

Shanghai - 9 destroyers on 64 and 112 universal vertical launchers in the completion afloat. Unlike Gorshkov, they have the opportunity now, and not in the bright future, to launch their version of Caliber, heavy SAMs + their version of a rocket torpedo for the long-range anti-aircraft defense from one cell. The Navy now does not have such capabilities, for example. China has a bunch of 052D in the ranks + head 055 at the 112 VPU in the ranks.

Mistral, technology received, build ourselves and more. China is making its MistralWoosp, while the USC is trying to bring Grena (Morgunova) and not expeditionary fish or meat.

While the peak of the construction of the auxiliary fleet is the middle tanker Pashin at 9000t, China is introducing the second fastest KUG / AUG integrated supply ship in the ocean zone with a cruising speed of 25 knots (Pashinin has a maximum 16 maximum) and 50k displacement.

I am already silent about the 60 corvettes that they have already collected and a bunch of 054A workhorses that can’t climb out of the oceans, from Europe to Peru.

You remind me of boastful teenagers shaking with wads of money of not quite crystal clear origin, but they must be wise old men. A little more modesty will look much more harmonious.

[maxim947]

You do where and at what time you live)) what kind of nonsense are you talking about? Just to blurt out something.

[Zeev Zeev]

I apologize, but that the PRC has a third aircraft carrier? They seemed to have two: "Liaoning" and 皮皮 虾, which is pronounced "Pipisya" in Russian. Where did some "Shandong" come from?

[donavi49]

Pipisya = Shandong.

Third build.

By the way, the bonus of UDK 075 is their version of MistralUosp. New photos, already completely formed the body and set the island.

[Zeev Zeev]

Clear. Why Shandong?

[donavi49]

Why Minsk, Moscow, Tbilisi?

The head office in honor of this province, where, by the way, Dalniy goes - where they built it.

001A in honor of a neighboring province

[Zeev Zeev]

So he is not "Shandong". Why was it called that in the article?

[Mentat]

Quote: Mentat

Quote: donavi49

Shanghai - 9 destroyers on 64 and 112 universal vertical launchers in the completion afloat. Unlike Gorshkov, they have the opportunity now, and not in the bright future, to launch their version of Caliber, heavy SAMs + their version of a rocket torpedo for the long-range anti-aircraft defense from one cell. The Navy now does not have such capabilities, for example. China has a bunch of 052D in the ranks + head 055 at the 112 VPU in the ranks.

Mistral, technology received, build ourselves and more. China is making its MistralWoosp, while the USC is trying to bring Grena (Morgunova) and not expeditionary fish or meat.

While the peak of the construction of the auxiliary fleet is the middle tanker Pashin at 9000t, China is introducing the second fastest KUG / AUG integrated supply ship in the ocean zone with a cruising speed of 25 knots (Pashinin has a maximum 16 maximum) and 50k displacement.

I am already silent about the 60 corvettes that they have already collected and a bunch of 054A workhorses that can’t climb out of the oceans, from Europe to Peru.

You remind me of boastful teenagers shaking with wads of money of not quite crystal clear origin, but they must be wise old men. A little more modesty will look much more harmonious.

It’s interesting, who gives me minuses in this thread without any expression of my own thoughts? If at all, besides the grinding of teeth. The Chinese pseudo-patriots who monitor the forum, or local leaders who are not allowed to once again pour Russia with feces, are they already overexcited?

[Old26]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

I apologize, but that the PRC has a third aircraft carrier? They seemed to have two: "Liaoning" and 皮皮 虾, which is pronounced "Pipisya" in Russian. Where did some "Shandong" come from?

This is not the third. This is the second. T.N. project 001A and previously had a conditional name, which you wrote

[Mentat]

Quote: donavi49

Who told you such nonsense? Are able. According to a modern project. However, the issue of the need for these courts has not yet been resolved at the army or political leadership level.

Well, let's take a specific project that received 100% funding, it is very necessary and a priority for the Navy. Missile ships 22800.

Initially, it was supposed to be massive, cheap, capable of production on most shipyards shipyard, and now, and not after 10 years. Therefore, they took the ready-made hull of 12300 Ave. (the laid-down ships were dismantled on the slipways in the 00's - because then there was no money). They increased, finalized and defended the project / gave the design documentation to the plants in record time.

However, then everything broke.
The giant series of 18 ships on the 6 Shipyard - just got up. The construction dates went to 4 years. At the same time, only for Pella - which was able to beat the priority of delivery of propulsion systems. For otherwise, at Pella, the main plant becomes cancer and other orders are disrupted (there is no place). Downtimes were provided for other plants (Renat Mistakhov recently said in an interview that they had fallen from 22800 and that the deadlines were likely to be shifted again, a simple one would be a loss for the plant, not compensation).

Is it possible to talk about the loss of competencies here? After all, suppliers failed. Needless to say, forgotten how to make high-speed installations that were developed under Khrushchev and the circulation probably exceeded 1000 under the USSR? Or just won? Like a note! Only for the best!

What kind of dregs did you write? What does the competence have to do with it?

Here, check out the article so as not to carry another snowstorm about Russia:

 "Star" from the inside

https://flotprom.ru/2018/%D0%97%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B04/

In short, the situation with the shift of the deadlines is associated with: 1) the corruption component; 2) the supply of low-quality components.

Parts used to be produced directly at the factory, but cunning * managers cut their own production, sold out the factory premises and bought what. After the piston, a fine of 500 million and a change of leadership, the situation changes.

How does this relate to technical competence in production ??

[Mikhail Drabkin]

You are writing Mentat

What does the competence have to do with it?

—- Let us consider in more detail the criteria of the ability to build something in fact, with reference to the Russian aircraft carriers: there is book knowledge, proven ability (or competencies), past and current experience with the hands and head, a professional school and training with hands and the head [this does not include either design, necessity, will, treasury, and modern production base].
—- Book knowledge (including intelligence) is the simplest criterion - YES, the fruits of doubts in favor of Russia === +
—- proven ability (competencies) - NO, Russia did not build aircraft carriers, built the USSR in the USSR === -
—- past experience with hands and head - YES, the fruits of doubts in favor of Russia === +
—- current experience with hands and head - NO,
===-
—– build a professional school with your hands and head - NO (presentation of illustrations and layouts is from the visual field) === -

Everyone can draw conclusions himself, but with a uniform coefficient of criteria:
—- It is not surprising and unfortunately that Russia currently does not know how to build aircraft carriers with its hands and head.
—- She currently does not have the necessary competencies.
—- In order to be able to do something, you need to do this and continuously study on new equipment, with new methods and materials.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

“Vikraiaditya” is a past experience. Like the repair of “Kuznetsov"

[Mentat]

Quote: Michael Drabkin

You are writing Mentat

What does the competence have to do with it?

—- Let us consider in more detail the criteria of the ability to build something in fact, with reference to the Russian aircraft carriers: there is book knowledge, proven ability (or competencies), past and current experience with the hands and head, a professional school and training with hands and the head [this does not include either design, necessity, will, treasury, and modern production base].
—- Book knowledge (including intelligence) is the simplest criterion - YES, the fruits of doubts in favor of Russia === +
—- proven ability (competencies) - NO, Russia did not build aircraft carriers, built the USSR in the USSR === -
—- past experience with hands and head - YES, the fruits of doubts in favor of Russia === +
—- current experience with hands and head - NO,
===-
—– build a professional school with your hands and head - NO (presentation of illustrations and layouts is from the visual field) === -

Everyone can draw conclusions himself, but with a uniform coefficient of criteria:
—- It is not surprising and unfortunately that Russia currently does not know how to build aircraft carriers with its hands and head.
—- She currently does not have the necessary competencies.
—- In order to be able to do something, you need to do this and continuously study on new equipment, with new methods and materials.

You wrote, as you think, a very clever comment.
However, it was a question of lost competencies in shipbuilding. Nothing Specific, in addition to flooding the anonymous minuses of my comments, no one wrote.

I don’t disclose any secrets with my messages, all that I write here on the forum is my analytics and media reports. It was on the basis of press reports that he made the statement that Russia today is capable of designing and building modern aircraft carriers.

And on the basis of what are you making your statements, on the basis of your idle conjectures? Are you a constructor, leader, related to the industry? What do your loud statements rely on, to put it mildly?