Russian nuclear submarines Tula and Yuri Dolgoruky fired at Sineva and Bulava

The Russian strategic nuclear missile submarine 667BDRM Tula and the strategic nuclear submarine 955 Borey Yuri Dolgoruky launched ballistic missiles Sineva and Bulava against targets at the Kamchatka and Arkhangelsk region. It is reported by the Ministry of Defense.

As follows from the message of the military department, the Russian nuclear submarines were at different ranges and launched for different purposes. The Tula SSBN, while in the polar region of the Arctic Ocean, launched the Sineva missile, and Yuri Dolgoruky fired a Bulava missile from the Barents Sea. However, it is not reported from what position the submarines fired.

On August 24, in accordance with the combat training plan, the Sineva sea-based ballistic missiles were successfully launched from the Tula strategic missile submarine and the Yuri Dolgoruky strategic missile submarine

- it is spoken in the message of the Ministry of Defense.

The military department emphasized that the missiles were launched with mass-scale mock-ups of warheads, they completely completed the entire cycle of the flight program and successfully hit targets at the Chizh training grounds in the Arkhangelsk Region and the Kura in Kamchatka.

During launches, the specified technical characteristics of submarine ballistic missiles and the operability of all ship missile systems were confirmed

- declared in the Ministry of Defense.

Comments

[Rusj]

That's something like Romania and Poland will be destroyed along with US bases in the first minutes, God forbid war. They don’t have time to cross.

[skinar]

No, for them the Iskander should be enough, but the main partners will definitely be "very happy" with the gifts of the ocean

[sabakina]

Quote: skinar

but the main partners will definitely be "very happy" with the gifts of the ocean

For some reason I remembered ...

... and she took a herring and began to poke my face with her muzzle. A. P. Chekhov "Vanka"

[Yura]

Quote: sabakina

... and she took a herring and began to poke my face with her muzzle. A. P. Chekhov "Vanka"

Figuratively, I directly imagined the faces of Bolton and Trump with grimaces trying to turn away, dodge, damn it, I would poke it myself.

[Local from the Volga]

Take me grandfather of Christ for the sake of ...))

[aszzz888]

skinar (Aleksey) Today, 09: 34
+8
No, the Iskander should be enough for them, but the main partners will definitely be "very happy" gifts of the ocean

AH, from Neptune vagrants! PS In Vladik, in Soviet times, there was such a brand store "Seafood". It had EVERYTHING, like "Greece".

[Grits]

Quote: aszzz888

In Vladik, in Soviet times, there was such a branded store "Seafood".

I don’t know about the Gifts of the Sea, but I remember the Ocean at the 100th anniversary

[NEXUS]

Quote: skinar

but the main partners will definitely be "very happy" with the gifts of the ocean

There is such a joke ...
The son asks the dad, "dad, how long to fly to America"?
Dad- "Well, 20 minutes, sonny"
From the kitchen, his wife - "he asks you about the plane, not about your Voevoda."

[svp67]

Quote: Rusj

That's something like Romania and Poland will be destroyed along with US bases in the first minutes, God forbid war.

Together with the USA ...

Russian nuclear submarines Tula and Yuri Dolgoruky fired at Sineva and Bulava

So the Bulava is flying, so you can't hear the cries of the "liberals" about its worthlessness ...
It would not hurt a few old SSBNs, instead of cutting, to re-equip under the "Caliber". Then Europe would have shuddered

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: svp67

So the Bulava is flying, so you can't hear the cries of the "liberals" about its worthlessness ...

They were produced by Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash. Currently, a set of measures is being taken to preserve the R-36M2 Voevoda in the Strategic Missile Forces group Until 2022 year
Or is there new information?

[svp67]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

They were produced by Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash.

"Bulava", "Yuzhmash"? No, they have nothing to do with Yuzhmash

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: svp67

"Bulava", "Yuzhmash"? No, they have nothing to do with Yuzhmash

Thanks for the reply.
Those who put a minus not for the question, but depending on the geographical place of residence or on the indication KURATRA may go on and on.
But TRUTH will always remain The truth.
"Viktor Litovkin, a military observer for TASS, noted in March 2018 that at one time there were 308 Voevoda-class missiles in the Soviet Union. They were manufactured in Dnepropetrovsk at the Yuzhmash plant."
SS-18 Mod 6 - R-36M2 "Voivode"
"The SS-18 was manufactured in Ukraine, while Russian facilities are maintaining the SS-18s that are currently in stock. Manufacturing the SS-18 in Russia would be costly and would require 5 to 7 years of design work to start at least tests worth 8-10 billion rubles. "

[svp67]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

But the TRUTH will always remain the TRUTH.

At the expense of "Voevoda" or "Satan", according to NATO, I agree, but what does "Bulava" have to do with it?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: svp67

but where does the "Bulava"?

You are right, "Bulava" was developed by the Moscow Institute and manufactured in Udmurtia.
To you +!

[svp67]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

But the TRUTH will always remain the TRUTH.

At the expense of "Voevoda" or "Satan", according to NATO, I agree, but what does "Bulava" have to do with it?

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

"SS-18 was manufactured in Ukraine, while Russian enterprises carry out maintenance of SS-18

And this is not entirely true. SS-18 was made in the USSR and throughout the USSR. Just the assembly was done on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. And yes, according to the contracts, before the events of 2014, maintenance and design support was carried out by Yuzhmash and Yuzhnoye KB. Now Russia does without them, the benefit of knowledge and opportunities is enough

[bayard]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Vitaly Gusin
They were produced by Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash.

Yuzhmash (Pavlograd) produced the first two stages of Typhoon missiles for Akula-class nuclear submarines, the final assembly was in Kurgan.
And "Bulava" was sculpted by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering under the leadership of Solomonov.

[svp67]

Quote: bayard

Yuzhmash (Pavlograd)

At the Pavlograd Mechanical Plant, which is not surprising, the production of fuel for solid propellant rockets was located nearby. But already during modernization, they were abandoned. They tried to switch to purely Russian developments, but not successfully.

[bayard]

Quote: svp67

At the Pavlograd Mechanical Plant, which is not surprising, the production of fuel for solid propellant rockets was located nearby.

PCP - Pavlograd Chemical Plant No.51. A lot of things were produced there - solid rocket fuel, all kinds of explosives, propellant powder, all kinds of ammunition (shells, mines, air bombs, rockets) were equipped ... latex, paints ... and even toothpaste of terrible quality.
In Pavlograd, there was the best test bench in the Union for testing rocket engines, stages, booster blocks and soft landing systems for the airborne and cosmonautics.
The famous ICBM "Molodets" for the so-called. "rocket trains" (BZHRK).

... And now they are sculpting the Grom-2 missile system - an analogue of our Iskander. Commissioned by Saudi Arabia and under US patronage.
Academics Yangel and Utkin worked there ... and now it is an occupied territory under the rule of the Anglo-Saxons.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: bayard

And "Bulava" was sculpted by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering under the leadership of Solomonov.

Not certainly in that way. MIT designed the R-30, and "sculpted", that is, "made" its Votkinsk plant, initially assembling SLBMs from components from about 600 enterprises in the country and neighboring countries. After the "zalepukh" tests, the "freeloaders" were filtered out and switched exclusively to domestic supplies ...

[bayard]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Not certainly in that way. MIT designed the R-30, and "sculpted", that is, "made", its Votkinsk plant

Solversly true. By the word "sculpted" I mean development, not production.
By the way, the Votkinsk plant and MIT and PMZ (Pavlograd) worked very closely in the post-Soviet times ... for a while.

[Grits]

Quote: svp67

It would not hurt a few old SSBNs, instead of cutting, to re-equip under the "Caliber".

For these purposes, 2 Sharks would be ideal, the troubles are standing in Severodvinsk.

[svp67]

Quote: Gritsa

For these purposes, 2 Sharks would be ideal, the troubles are standing in Severodvinsk.

Of course, we must start with them, it would be generally powerful. In one gulp, they could demolish everything "we do not need and interfere"

[Boa kaa]

Quote: svp67

It would not hurt a few old SSBNs, instead of cutting, to re-equip under the "Caliber". Then Europe would have shuddered

1. It is not economically feasible. It’s cheaper, easier and more durable to build 955AK - Struggle with CRBD, that’s all on 90-100. And we weld and EUROPE hemorrhage for all LGBT people ...
2. Europe will shudder when it, its intelligence, will report that - "basta, toddlers, the dancing is over" (c) ... wake up to die "to the music", brothers!
And without lyrics: all targets on the territory were taken under the sight of 9M723 from the KOR with a KVO of only 2,0 m! And to intercept such "quasi ballistics" is not possible even in the long term!
Then there will be "ooh-ahs and, probably, fucking"! (from)

[poquello]

Quote: svp67

So the Bulava is flying

Is there a mace on the frame? IMHO rail

[Valery Valery]

The most important fact of these firing ballistic missiles is not that the missile flew out and hit exactly the target, but that the firing was carried out in submerged position upon a signal from the combat command of the fleet. And the time between the signal and the start was a little more than a minute and a half.

[boss]

MDA, in the modern world, one and a half minutes
it's a lot? brake?
it is not enough? slow gas?
or how?

[Valery Valery]

One and a half minutes is very fast, taking into account the pre-launch preparation of missiles!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Valery Valery

the firing was carried out in underwater position according to the signal of combat control from the CP of the fleet. And the time between the signal and the start was a little more than a minute and a half.

1. If the units were on the BS, then the Central Command Center of the Navy controlled them. If it was planned shooting according to the plans of the BP, then yes - the CP of the Northern Fleet ... Although, Al-dr Sergeevich in the comment above correctly noted: no one carries "dummies" of BB in combat equipment to the autonomous system ...
2. About the time between receipt of the control unit signal and launch ... Even with the use of the SCBU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it is not possible to reduce the time of the PP of a liquid ICBM to 90 seconds. R-30, maybe it can, but about the "Blue" as it is very doubtful ...
3. Shooting underwater from the Barents Sea in the Kura in summer is easy.
But from the "circumpolar" region, where ice floes are not uncommon in summer ... well, perhaps, but risky.
Infa is not enough, therefore, judgments are "probabilistic", in the general course of the development of events, so to speak.
IMHO.

[SHIPS]

Well, I'm not a great specialist in submarines, the specifics of working with them .... picked up :-) but even I noticed discrepancies in the article.
By the way, sometimes I change my nickname, how they will fill up minuses or be banned for the habit of writing what I think. :-)
So do not be surprised when I write from another user.
Although we talked a month ago, my aunt in naval uniform was on ava.

[SHIPS]

Are there other options? :-)
If all of the above has not happened, then why all this fuss?
So it should be!
So they threw away the time of preparation, and data entry, establishing communication with the KP, releasing a paravan if under water.
This is a giveaway. I’m generally silent about the time of the communication session. What was the option?

[Tusv]

In Romania and Poland, people live. And on Devesel and Radzikovo need to shoot back. Nonche is a numbirvan training ground

[boss]

Hmm, do not stand for gypsy Moldovans and psheks to shoot, but it is necessary ...
unfortunately logistics. Venezuela and Cuba are falling away.
although maybe a couple of fleet bases?

[Tusv]

Quote: patron

Venezuela and Cuba are falling away.

Why do they disappear? They owe us money and nemeryannom. And so the American troops are already purely occupational under the treaty of 1975. They do not need to be bombed - they will "miss" side by side. Once out of the INF Treaty - All of Europe must wear chalk targets

[boss]

how do you imagine the deployment of launchers in a country with guano, where they can’t give such a dolphin fret ?!
and to do so with Cuba, it’s like a second time to promise and will not marry)
but a naval base with submarines and booming missile ships on these coasts with a runway is a completely different matter.
but screams of Russian aggression did not end up

[Tusv]

Quote: patron

how do you imagine the deployment of launchers in a country with guano

I hope your speech would not be about Russia, because no one asks the country of guano

[ciujoilu]

And where are Moldovans. We are what bothers you. We seem to have no American bases. It is clear that Moldova will also be hooked, only as an adjoining territory, but we don’t have to put us together with the gypsies and the psheks.

[boss]

Sorry, geographically it happened.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: ciujoilu

we don’t have to put us together with gypsies and psheks.

The thing is this: you must say this, first of all to your authorities, who are trying to shove you into this pile. How many members of the Constitutional Court of Moldova have Romanian citizenship? I am already silent about your parliament.

[ciujoilu]

Something I didn’t hear so that we even talked about NATO military bases. Although there is a military contingent on the territory of Moldova and, oddly enough, it is Russian, but we are constitutionally a neutral country. Yes, I understand very well why this contingent is there. Because someone stepped in the 92nd, but already 27 years have passed and our state does not give a hint that we want to attack someone, plus if I wanted to attack, I assure you that there is no strength or opportunity, plus in the 92nd it turned out to be done at the expense of nationalistic ideas (as in Ukraine) and right now in Moldova there is no nationalistic movement (there is, but they are very weak). As for the military contingent, I did not mean peacekeepers, and that contingent that type guards military depots. Honestly, I have nothing against what they are, but you don’t have to point a finger at the other without looking at yourself.

[Lord of the Sith]

Startup Scheme

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sith Lord

Startup Scheme

Thank you, Sergei. BDRM has a good position. In order to tell Greenland: "Do not get you to anyone!"

[Lord of the Sith]

Greetings, Alexander. In fact, they showed from two points that they can cover. Consider that the missiles would not fly to the south-west and southeast, but to the north. And I think in a short way, which reduces the reaction rate of a potential adversary. But for tests, of course, ours tested the accuracy and operation of all stages during the flight.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sith Lord

Consider that the missiles would not fly to the south-west and southeast, but to the north.

Duc, only seeing the diagram, immediately mentally "turned the arrows". By the way, if you shoot from one point with a shift of targets clockwise, and from the other - against, you will get hellish scissors.

[SHIPS]

SSBN "Tula", being in the polar region of the Arctic Ocean, ..... rockets were launched with mass and size mock-ups of warheads ..... nuclear submarines were at different ranges ...... "Tula", being in the polar region Arctic Ocean
Where is the testing ground in the polar region and what is it called?
Tula was probably at the BS, otherwise what the hell to hang around on the pole. If so, why drag a mock-up of a war block on a BS?
When will a miracle happen and Kamchatka Boreas will shoot with a Mace?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: NAVI

SSBN "Tula", being in the polar region of the Arctic Ocean, ..... rockets were launched with mass and size mock-ups of warheads ..... nuclear submarines were at different ranges ...... "Tula", being in the polar region Arctic Ocean
Where is the testing ground in the polar region and what is it called?
Tula was probably at the BS, otherwise what the hell to hang around on the pole. If so, why drag a mock-up of a war block on a BS?
When will a miracle happen and Kamchatka Boreas will shoot with a Mace?

You asked ...
Oversized mock-ups of missile warheads completed the full cycle of the flight program and successfully hit training targets at the Chizh training grounds in the Arkhangelsk Region and the Kura in Kamchatka.

[SHIPS]

Jammed record?

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

If so, why drag a mock-up of a war block on a BS?

When they shoot, they always put a replacement for BB.

[SHIPS]

For military service do not take the layout of the bb. :-)
If this is not a military service, why climb to the pole, there is no training ground.
So see?

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

If this is not a military service, why climb to the pole

Then, what you need to practice shooting from the BS area, and not in greenhouse conditions.

[SHIPS]

And what's the difference where to shoot? Surfaced to the joint venture, drove off the preparation algorithm, the signal passed, plunged and drove on. For the crew and the rocket, it is absolutely the same where to shoot. At least in the Kamchatka BDRs when switching to Pacific Fleet, they did so.

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

And what's the difference where to shoot?

But why then go somewhere? It is possible from the shore.

[SHIPS]

You can’t from the shore, from the pier you can :-)
Cheered up.

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

You can’t from the shore, from the pier

Why so? Launch systems can also be mounted ashore - for the crew and the rocket, it doesn’t matter what the mine is attached to?

[SHIPS]

There is a children's story by Nosov "Fantasies"
Did not read in childhood?

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

There is a children's story

Do you think that PU of the same Mace cannot be put ashore?

[SHIPS]

But why?
The mace is shrunk constructively under the mine, hence the unpredictable failures.
On the ground, this does not "press".
There are technical requirements and customer requirements for both boat and aircraft missiles. On earth, these requirements are much less stringent.
Yes, I forgot about the "locomotive" with a rocket in the carriage. The requirements there were even stricter, due to the load on the track, the size of the carriage and the contact network.

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

But why?

Well, what about?

Quote: Dart2027

And what's the difference where to shoot?

Why go somewhere, if you can directly from the shore?

[Doctor]

When will a miracle happen and Kamchatka Boreas will shoot with a Mace?

When will the MIT branch open in Kamchatka? For the "Bulava" to fire, the developers must charge it. That's how it works.

[SHIPS]

Do not write nonsense. The Mitovites were sitting there half a year after the arrival of Nevsky in 2014. They tried to play rockets. Then they left. You can’t shoot from Kamchatka. No one guarantees that the rocket will not crash in the mine.
From North Ov they shoot a missile licked at MIT, which is specially brought in for window dressing. It is simply dangerous to shoot normally.

[Doctor]

No one guarantees that the rocket will not crash in the mine.
From North Ov they shoot a missile licked at MIT, which is specially brought in for window dressing. It is simply dangerous to shoot normally.

So I about it.

[SHIPS]

Sorry, I did not understand the promise :-)

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

A regular shoot is simply dangerous.

Source OBS.

[SHIPS]

Crack and upload a photo of the date finalists in Vilyuchinsk who got this trip :-)
It was the OBS, from the store where they took vodka, because they were ordered not to drain the awl :-)

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

It is OBS, from the store

That is nothing but drunk chatter.

[SHIPS]

The conversations of the drunken officers in the company do not cab, the main source. They must know this.
You are not mishandled by the Cossacks?
What and where and how ... :-)

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

The conversations of the drunken officers in the company do not cab, the main source.

All our drunk talk is that everything is bad, everything is lost, everything has collapsed. And this tradition dates back to Soviet times. I remember that very well.

[SHIPS]

"What's sober on his mind ..."
Not invented by me.
And the fact that Mace did not go to the Pacific Fleet is a fact. Two buildings sit for four years in the bay and do not go to the BS. No other evidence is needed. And not a single shooting.

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

What is sober in mind ...

It was not by chance that I mentioned the USSR - after perestroika, which was so desirable for drinking, began, then most of those who were outraged strongly regretted this and for some reason changed their rhetoric.

Quote: NAVI

Two buildings sit for four years in the bay and do not go to the BS.

Source again OBS?

[SHIPS]

Sometimes they go out to play catch-up. One boat target, the second hunter. There is a network. Torpedo attacks of each other.
I served there for 14 years .... then there were connections. The headquarters of the flotilla is not khukh-mukhra :-)

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

The headquarters of the non-khukh-mukhra flotilla

Quote: NAVI

And not a single shooting.

What is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxGQgfJVrGo&list=PLtqIS4Gj9IdGkUUfi2v6-YtDYR-hCNetO&index=107

[Sky strike fighter]

Has the Liner yet replaced Sineva? The rocket has turned out to be good, but soon its carriers will be decommissioned. Or maybe it is better to make a modification of the Liner, such Liner 2.0 for the Boreans?

[Thrifty]

At first there was information that they shot from under the water, then this information was removed. ..

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

At first there was information that they shot from under the water, then this information was removed. ..

There is already a video that the Bulava was launched from under the water ...

[CommanderDIVA]

A very true military-political step against the background of the ongoing pecking of our country by partners from across the ocean and the European Union, these gentlemen should be reminded of who they are dealing with, as in the film of the DMB, Comrade Ensign or maybe a bang? Be sure to bang but not now

[boss]

but a little later, but be sure

[tlauicol]

They hardly shot from under the ice

[V1er]

I would have launched a couple of MBR for prevention. Naturally educational. Well, put the caliber on wheels by itself) The signal to partners should be the most visible)

[Mixanchik]

After such news, it becomes calmer in my soul .. We can "bang" if something happens. !!!! But work in this direction is not yet an open end .. Something about the "Sarmatians" silence, you see there is an installation on alert and hastily .. The mines are already ready for a long time.

[APASUS]

Such tests usually take place in anticipation of some events, as I understand it, hello to the G7 participants

[ultra]

I have not read more enchanting delirium for a long time!

[figwam]

He only writes such nonsense.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: ffaff

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE ELEMENTARY:
1. If you do not agree with what you have read, then you must reasonably PROVE your point of view - and not be dishonored by a complete INABILITY to think logically!
What you write is a collection of NONSENSE!
2. SMART people make arguments on the substance of the topic under discussion (I have presented them in a multitude) - and SMART people make claims to the opponent’s personality. This is natural - there are no clever thoughts in an empty head.
3. Here Prove that I'm wrong ....

You can not ?
Well, keep quiet.

Merged quickly. Accepted. Your long footcloths are not a sign of intelligence. Rather the opposite. Brevity is the soul of wit. Write it down.

[Sky strike fighter]

The United States is betting on Ohio submarines with Trident 2 ballistic missiles on board.

[Cympak]

The US has an ocean fleet, but we do not. The United States can ensure the deployment of its Ohio, we have difficulty and only in peacetime. Americans can block our naval bases, but we can’t. Conclusion: we will be forced to shoot either from the pier and hope that the missiles do not intercept the SM-3, or shoot with the fact that they managed to go to sea on combat duty and break away from tracking enemy boats.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

"In theory, NOT MORE THAN 30% of the operation time, a submarine can be at sea! But in practice - much LESS. For example, in Russia - LESS than 5%!
And 95% of the time Russian SSBNs "

ACTOR! THOSE. A YEAR CAN ONLY LESS THAN 18 DAYS IN THE SEA?
VLADIK-DRINK A LEMONADIK!

[Doctor]

THOSE. A YEAR CAN ONLY LESS THAN 18 DAYS IN THE SEA?

And how much time did the SSBN actually spend on the database per year? 3-4 exits of 25-30 days? That is really about 1/3. A ground-based complex is a gun that is always at the temple of the enemy. Well, almost always.

[SHIPS]

Not this way. Most chased AU and 675.
When Ohio went to the Pacific Fleet, they chased everyone.
But by 1985-6 they realized that we were not pulling. AU was sent to Okhotsk, especially after Britanov.
BDR walked for 50-55 days.
I have data on KOH at that time. On projects and on-board.

[SHIPS]

Little.

   > Information on KOH. 
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https://a.radikal.ru/a29/1901/e3/580d194192cb.jpg  
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[Lord of the Sith]

So gentlemen, who let this schizoid in here ? He spat on the whole monitor to me with his delirium.

[kit88]

And the nonsense of this Instance can be logically continued. The copy suggests abandoning the maritime and air component and focus on the Strategic Missile Forces. But here the question arises, and what will be our planet, after the superpowers work on the Strategic Rocket Forces? Something reminiscent of a lunar landscape most likely.
So in order to turn the Earth into a desert, we need a Strategic Missile Forces? No, not at all. We put all the charges in one place, insert the fuse, and how to stab the Earth in half. The savings on the military budget are enormous!
What nonsense I wrote!
In general, purely logically continued the thought of the Instance.

[Doctor]

The copy suggests abandoning the maritime and air component and focus on the Strategic Missile Forces. But here the question arises, and what will be our planet, after the superpowers work on the Strategic Rocket Forces? Something reminiscent of a lunar landscape most likely.

If we leave the sea and especially the air component, it can happen that the lunar landscape will be only on the territory of Russia. The Americans will work out their own in any case, and the effectiveness of our marine and air carriers, according to some estimates, will amount to 14% of the ground. So the ratio will be 100 versus 64.

[SHIPS]

It was in the mid-80s on the SSBN 28% .....
Counted at the rate in Ulan-Uda.
I accidentally found out, because even then my uniform didn’t give access to the operational strategy. to planning.

[SHIPS]

Funny.
"Trident" 197 launches in a row without delays and accidents. Success is 100%.

[svp67]

Quote: NAVI

Success 100%.

Well, yes, yes ... And is he driving the seagulls away from the ascent of the carrier?

Why lie like that? 5 unsuccessful, one more start is recognized as partially unsuccessful and one outside test.
I was especially pleased with the launch in June 2016 from the British submarine HMS Vengeance. The missile went off course and headed towards the United States, falling near Florida. It is reported that the UK Department of Defense did not deny that the missile went off course, but the launch itself was called successful. ??????? the beauty

[SHIPS]

USA. Data for 2015 is all available.
A photo from the site of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation with the Trident with the signature Bulava weakly put?
I understand imperial ambitions ... but our fleet is jo American, as before Kiev on Armata :-)

[svp67]

Quote: NAVI

but to our fleet jo american, as before Kiev on Armata :-)

Forgive me, but your avatar is "zhovto-blakitny" and this expression of yours sounds, well, very funny ...

Quote: NAVI

2015 data is all available.

And what, failed launches are not indicated there? Or have all these 197 launches been completed in one 2015 year?

[SHIPS]

Everything is clear with you.
By the way, a sufficient number of batteries works from different people. He argued with a man, and after a month he no longer remembers what :-) :-) :-) :-)
All in comparison.
He randomly typed ... :-)
May 24, 2008 · She set another record with 122 consecutive successful crash-free launches. ... Another example is the Russian SLBM Bulava, which has terrible statistics ...

https://vpk.name › news › 69999_ra...

Trident-2 rockets continue to demonstrate world reliability record - VPK.name4 Jun. 2012 · Trident-2 rockets continue to demonstrate world reliability record .... Here are the statistics for all launches since 1987. http://www.planet4589.org/space/lvdb/launch/Trident2. 0.

[svp67]

Quote: NAVI

Another example is the Russian Bulava SLBM, which has terrible statistics ...

And what is the "horror" then? 32 launches, 7 of them unsuccessful, and 6 of them occurred during the first 12 launches. The "Trident" at the beginning of its career also had a high accident rate, out of the first 15 unsuccessful 4.

[SHIPS]

Now compare time, the initial period of the Trident and the Mace.
It has been used for 15 years, the general has left, two years have been talking about Bulava-2.
The very idea of ​​a stupid TPK with a rocket is shoved into a rocket mine, which in essence is the TPK itself.
Therefore, the clearance is reduced and the playing cocoon playing deforming blocks at the exit. At each start-up in different places. There is no hump on Korea, these are the requirements of the customer and the MIT specialists compressed everything to the limit. The result is visible.

[SHIPS]

They wrote about this a couple of years ago, I didn’t come up with it myself.
     As an example: About the Bulava rocket “To implement this idea, all forces and means at the disposal of Yuri Solomonov were involved, and most importantly, extensive personal and family ties. The most active accomplices in the implementation of this idea were the chief of armaments of the Russian Armed Forces Anatoly Sitnov and the head of the 4th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense Vladimir Dvorkin. As a result of the work of this "creative" group, in November 1997, a letter appeared to Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin signed by Ministers Yakov Urinson and Igor Sergeev. In this letter, they ask, taking into account the realities of the international and domestic situation, financial and production capabilities of Russia, to give MIT the functions of the leading organization in the creation of promising strategic nuclear forces, meaning, first of all, the definition of the technical appearance of such means. The visa in Chernomyrdin's letter "I agree" was enough for the machine to work: - the 27th Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which traditionally provided scientific and technical support for the development and testing of sea-based strategic missile systems, was liquidated, and its functions were transferred to the 4th Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense, never previously not engaged in this; - sectoral research institutes of Roscosmos (TsNIIMash, Research Institute of Thermal Processes, Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering Technology, Central Research Institute of Materials Science) were barred from participating in the development of strategic missile systems for the Navy and Strategic Missile Forces; - the grouping of SSBNs of Project 941 was eliminated, and it was carried out according to a carefully developed plan. At first, the production of the R-39 missiles was stopped under the guise that the R-39 UTTKh "Bark" missile, which was being tested, would come to replace it. Then, under the pretext of three unsuccessful launches from the ground stand, the Bark ROC was also closed. At the same time, forced work was organized to destroy the ammunition of the R-39 missiles, and the fourth Bark missile, ready for launch, made taking into account the comments on the results of unsuccessful launches, was ordered to be disassembled and disposed of. "

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

how to Kiev on Armata:

[Dart2027]

Quote: NAVI

I remember, I remember .... how they lied at the parade.

He said a man who was not close there.

Quote: NAVI

You personally will go on appeal

I didn’t hide from the army in the 90s.

Quote: NAVI

knowing that you will surely die

Judging by how successfully the Armed Forces of Ukraine is fighting the militia, the word "for sure" is superfluous here.

[Doctor]

NOBODY and NEVER could bring ANY reasonable argument - why it is necessary to drive barrels loaded with rockets and flying sheds into the sea and air oceans with enormous risk and huge (up to hundreds of times more than in the Strategic Missile Forces!)

The main argument given to the country's leadership by the "military strategists" has not changed: "... the British do not clean their guns with bricks."

They say that the Americans are SO, forgetting that the Americans after the Second World War have a completely different idea of ​​the war. Yes, they had another war, we remember tank battles, fighter pilots ’battles and infantry bayonet attacks, they are battles of aircraft carriers with battleships, massive B-17 bombings and giant naval landings.

They have long ago put things in order in their continent, they do not need to "annex" Labrador and Yucatan, just beckon all Mexico and Canada with a finger. On the contrary, the wall is already being erected. All their strategic interests are at distant approaches, on foreign shores. Hence the other structure of the Armed Forces.

[SHIPS]

It's silly to argue (((
"Take it by yourself, so as not to fall when walking" (c)
I'm about the butt of the USSR from the USA.
I do not think that the next attempt will be more successful ..

[nobody111body]

fine! wonderful launches and all you need is Kim Jong-un — well or not — in Cuba and Venezuela, it’s possible to deploy vigorous missiles both cheaper and more reliable

[Doctor]

Submarines with ballistic missiles (SSBNs) take into service only the demented!

Helpless, clumsy and defenseless flying sheds ..

Everything is absolutely true in the first and second paragraphs. But nobody will be able to prove it, even if we carry out comparative shooting in real time with a notch of time standards. Generals' thinking is as difficult to change as the direction of gyro axes in inertial control systems. Especially in the branches and arms of the troops with "traditions". With the same stubborn hopelessness, sailing ships continued to rivet in the era of battleships, then battleships in the era of aviation, and in the missile era, artillery cruisers 68-K.

[SHIPS]

Things will not come to shooting, in most cases.
However, it has already been discussed.
http://samlib.ru/s/semenow_aleksandr_sergeewich333/protivolodochnaioborona-2019.shtml

[Doctor]

And 95% of the time, Russian SSBNs are located at the pier - and like ALL MILITARY TROUTS - defenselessly, motionless and not disguised, sticking off the coast of Russia (at the very edges of Russia!) And perfectly visible from the air and from outer space - without problems for several MINUTES .. . (!) are incapacitated by ONE UNDERWATER MASS Volley

1. Bombers in the 21st Century:
- These are clumsy, large and defenseless targets GUARANTEED (100%) go astray when leaving the Russian airspace:

Trying to understand why such an expensive and effective weapon as a nuclear one is placed on such unstable and weakly protected carriers, the thought of betrayal involuntarily arises. It is difficult to explain this by stupidity and greed alone when cutting the budget. It seems that among our "genius strategists" someone directs thought in the right direction.

[boss]

You, dear, cut the budget is not just dreaming - it seems.
It never occurred to you that there are different delivery methods for different purposes in different conditions?
that the flights of defenseless bears and that, this is a demonstration of the flag.
that your numerous statements about submarines are fantasies.
Have you heard about the long trips of our submariners?
be worried please

[SHIPS]

And it was discussed :-) :-) :-)
http://samlib.ru/s/semenow_aleksandr_sergeewich333/mutabor.shtml

[Doctor]

and at the cost of manufacturing, operation and disposal - Hundreds of times more expensive!

Imagine what kind of cover for silos and PGRK could be organized for the loot that will go to the TU-160 and Borei. And how many apartments to build. But not destiny.

[Pechkin]

What are you writing about different tasks for cruise missiles and the Strategic Missile Forces, for example: you need to destroy the base behind the rear of the militants in Syria, you propose using not an air defense or caliber, but immediately P-36M we are not only participating in a nuclear war. Nuclear weapons have no practical this is a deterrent weapon. I imagine if hypothetically Israel asks America to destroy the Iranian base on the territory of Syria near the border and they immediately let Minuteman-3 rejoice in Israel).

[Doctor]

Nuclear weapons have no practical use of this deterrence weapon. I imagine if hypothetically Israel asks America to destroy the Iranian base on the territory of Syria near the border and they immediately launch Minuteman-3 here in Israel will be delighted).

If the Americans drop some B83 on the Iranian base, will our leadership have the courage to respond with all the might of a nuclear arsenal? After the Kursk and the downed Su-24, this is a big question. Waging a war with tactical nuclear weapons is entirely possible. Steel eggs are needed to decide to destroy the planet.

[eagle owl]

There is such a song, dragging something about the landing. but there are such words:
... the blue of the weak does not accept.
You are able to completely overtake the horizon
It’s not the angels that come down to earth
And in this case, it sounds even more interesting.

[lopuhan2006]

Is it interesting from the Northern launch to Chizhi more than 5 000 km? Although we withdrew from the contract, but then it turns out that the possibility of firing at less than 5000 was laid. Very interesting launch. Especially in the realities of geopolitics, as a signal for Japan, Romania, Poland, and indeed England. When cruise missiles are aimed at you, it’s not serious for the electorate. But when the Sinevs and the Bulovs sprinkle it will be more spectacular. Only the electorate doesn’t care about that. 80% of the population on both sides do not know how and what the nuclear explosion comes from and what Nagasaki is .........

[Keyser soze]

Russians! Today is the anniversary of the Shipka fighting. Three days later, in August 1877, 3 100 Russian soldiers and officers and 858 Bulgarian militias died on the pass.

Today, at Shipka, celebrations begin and thousands and thousands of people will remember and honor the defenders of the pass there.

A blessed memory and eternal gratitude to the soldiers and officers of the Russian Imperial Army!

[LiSiCyn]

Happy holiday to you, Bulgarians!
Eternal Glory to the Shipka Defenders !!!

[AU Ivanov.]

Thank you brother!

[Chaldon48]

"Tula" probably from the hole, which means from the surface position "Sineva" started up.

[rocket757]

OUR RESPONSE ..... the answer is shorter.
Tests, verification, it is necessary.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: ffaff

I EXPLAIN DETAILS TO ALL UNREASONABLE:

Here it is, REASON'S VOICE !!! Prostrate yourself, despicable!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Paranoid50

Here it is, REASON'S VOICE

Damn, in vain the "skulls" were canceled. We got inadequate (to put it mildly) already

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Cat Man Null

We got inadequate

Duc, the season is approaching (autumn), and we must somehow survive it.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Paranoid50

the season is coming (fall)

Well, these hikes have a "season" all year round. And around the clock

[Sergey Averchenkov]

And what is better than Sinev or Mace? Well, let's experts - say.

[SHIPS]

Here.
  > Boreas and Mace. Problems and solutions. http://forums.airbase.ru/2007/07/t56609--borej-i-bulava-problemy-i-ikh-reshenie.html  

[Cry]

Blue, you flashed now
In a wonderful dream without raising his eyes.
Well, at least once, can you pick them up?
Whether you are dreaming or not dreaming, do not understand.
Well, at least once, can you pick them up?
Whether you love or not love, do not embrace.
.

[Old26]

Quote: svp67

It would not hurt a few old SSBNs, instead of cutting, to re-equip under the "Caliber".

And are they, old, suitable for conversion?

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

They were produced by Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash.

What are you talking about? And really "Yuzhmash"? Or maybe MIT with production in Votkinsk ???
Minus and I put you. V-1 for nonsense in relation to the Bulava, created at Yuzhmash, in-2 for quoting Litovkin's nonsense

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

But the TRUTH will always remain the TRUTH.

Where do you see the truth in Litovkin’s delirium?
In his phrase that

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

"Viktor Litovkin, a military observer for TASS, noted in March 2018 that at one time there were 308 Voevoda-class missiles in the Soviet Union. They were made in Dnepropetrovsk at the Yuzhmash plant." SS-18 Mod 6 - R -36M2 "Voivode"

??
Its online otherwise than ANALItg is not called. 308 Voevoda-class missiles? Why so little. Write so write (or write). If he is such a cool observer, he would know that Voevod in the USSR was produced according to various estimates from 85 to 88 units. And in the west this missile had the designation not only SS-18 Mod 6 (R-36M2), but also "SS-18 Mod 5 (R-36M2)

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

SS-18 was manufactured in Ukraine, while Russian enterprises are performing maintenance on SS-18, which are currently are in stock .

What the hell are you saying? In stock? And what for in the warehouse to carry out their maintenance ???

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

The production of SS-18 in Russia would be expensive and would require from 5 to 7 years of design work to start at least tests worth 8-10 billion rubles.

And why in Russia was the production of rockets created in another design bureau that remained on the territory of another state to be reaffirmed? Moreover, Yuzhmash has always specialized in heavy ICBMs. It took - set up production at Krasmash

Quote: bayard

Yuzhmash (Pavlograd) produced the first two stages of Typhoon missiles for Akula-class nuclear submarines, the final assembly was in Kurgan.
And "Bulava" was sculpted by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering under the leadership of Solomonov.

In fact, Yuzhmash is most often geographically associated with Dnepropetrovsk. Although the Pavlograd plant was part of the NGO

The missile has never actually been named Typhoon. This is the western designation of our boats of Project 941 "Shark". The actual name of the rocket, as far as I remember, was "Sturgeon"

Quote: Gritsa

For these purposes, 2 Sharks would be ideal, the troubles are standing in Severodvinsk.

The price of this modernization has been discussed more than once. Boats for several years in SUGG, to upgrade now - is more expensive for yourself ...

Quote: Tusv

Why fall away? They owe us grandmothers and unmeasured.

So what? Returned? Or we once again forgave Cuba 38 or 39 billion and at the same time we are going to give a loan of another 30-40 million

Quote: patron

how do you imagine the deployment of launchers in a country with guano, where they can’t give such a dolphin fret ?!
and to do so with Cuba, it’s like a second time to promise and will not marry)
but a naval base with submarines and booming missile ships on these coasts with a runway is a completely different matter.
but screams of Russian aggression did not end up

Here are just no DBK, no submarines to deploy there from the word at all. In addition, the creation of a base, and even with take-off, is a multi-billion dollar investment in a country that does not know whether tomorrow will be with the same ruler or not. In addition, to cover this base, you will need so much equipment and so many troops. And while ensuring the security of the base is very, very difficult ...

Quote: Mixanchik

Something about the "Sarmatians" silence, you see there is an installation on alert and hastily ..

Yeah. In my yard, they also dig a mine for "Sarmat" ,,,,,
Vitalik! Would you put a missile on alert that has never passed flight tests? I think that even with your fuss it would hardly have done. Why should others be considered complete suckers and those who are ready to do this ???

Quote: ultra

I have not read more enchanting delirium for a long time!

But he positions himself as a rocket launcher. probably the smartest in the world ...

Quote: ffaff

Here Prove that I'm wrong ...

It’s a lot of honor to prove something by refuting the nonsense you write

[DPN]

Thanks to the DESIGNERS, one of them is also a poet, good luck to them and of course to those who brought their ideas to life. Such is PEOPLE and my HOMELAND is strong! and I’m just her screw.

[Old26]

Quote: lopuhan2006

Is it interesting from the Northern launch to Chizhi more than 5 000 km?

Less. and it is written so vaguely that it is not clear where exactly they shot. Previously, they fired from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, there it turns out about 5000-5500

Quote: lopuhan2006

Although we withdrew from the contract, but then it turns out that the possibility of firing at less than 5000 was laid.

All missiles have the ability to fire at a minimum range. But what it is, this is the minimum - everyone has their own. On the old Soviet UR-100 (8K84 / 15A20) it was 800-900 km. Accuracy of hitting the "peg" when firing at a shorter range is not required. Hit the landfill and that's it

Quote: lopuhan2006

Very interesting launch.

What's interesting? We do not say when we shoot "Topol-E" on the internal route (Kapyar-Sary-Shagan) at a distance of 2200-2500. Or when the "border" with a range of at least 6000 km was laid along the same Sary-Shagan from Plesetsk, again at a distance of 2500 km

[skipper83]

And how does the SSBN differ from strategic nuclear submarines?