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Submarine project 641 "Zaporozhye" still disposed of

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation still decided to dispose of the former and only submarine of the Ukrainian Navy Zaporozhye. Information on finding a contractor for this job is available on the public procurement portal.


Submarine project 641 "Zaporozhye" still disposed of


The Russian military department has placed a tender for the disposal of "a diesel submarine of the 641 project and a large anti-submarine ship of the 1134B project in the 2019 and 2020 years." The cost of the work is estimated at 193 million rubles, the deadline for their implementation is until November 10 November 2020.

At the moment, the Russian Navy has only one project 641 submarine - this is the former diesel-electric submarine Zaporozhye, formerly owned by the Ukrainian Navy and abandoned on the base of the Black Sea fleet after the reunification of Crimea and Russia. Earlier, the Ministry of Defense has already announced a tender for its disposal, but then canceled at the request of the customer.

The submarine Zaporozhye was built in the year 1970. Until the 1990's, she served in the Northern Fleet of the USSR Navy, and later was transferred to the Black Sea Fleet. In the 1997 year, during the division, it became part of the Ukrainian Navy and until the 2014 year it was the only Ukrainian submarine. In the 2012 year, the submarine was repaired and it even dived to a depth of 14 meters.

After the reunification of Crimea, part of the crew of the submarine continued to serve in the Russian fleet, part went to Ukraine, and the submarine itself remained chained in the southern bay of Sevastopol. Previously, it was offered to transfer to the Ukrainian Navy, but for some reason the return did not take place. Also, "Zaporozhye" was proposed to be turned into a museum.
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  1. WILL
    WILL 22 August 2019 15: 34
    +29
    Get ashore - and make a museum! Let the Kids - Rejoice! good
    And so it will take a turn in the recycling program .... what
    Museum to call - RETURN OF THE CRIMEA! hi
    1. Krilovchanin
      Krilovchanin 22 August 2019 15: 42
      +7
      If the children are allowed to approach her, after half a year there will be nothing to dispose of - byt!
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 22 August 2019 16: 36
        +4
        Quote: Krilovchanin
        If the children are allowed to approach her, after half a year there will be nothing to dispose of - byt!

        In Kaliningrad, in the Museum of the World Ocean, there is her "sister" B-413, who also served in Polyarny. She always arouses great interest among visitors.
        Moreover, several boats of pr.641 are successfully "working" as museums in some European countries.
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 22 August 2019 22: 47
          +1
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          several boats of Project 641 successfully "work" as museums

          I am also FOR the museum! Cram it into the grotto of Balaclava, having previously set it on the ground and concreted so that it does not drown. There is some water on top of the concrete and voila, the museum is ready. There will be no end to tourists.
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 22 August 2019 23: 28
          0
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          several boats of Project 641 are successfully "working" as museums in some European countries

          You have heard about "foreign countries", but there is no such boat in the Togliatti Technical Museum?
          1. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 23 August 2019 00: 05
            +2
            The phrase "foreign countries", somewhat "hurts the eye"))
            Now, thanks to you, I know that there is also in Togliatti)
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 24 August 2019 10: 36
              0
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              The phrase "foreign countries", somewhat "hurts the eye"))

              Yeah. Does the phrase "foreign countries" hurt your eyes a little? In this context, "hurting the eye" is like "pants from someone else's shoulder."
    2. eagle owl
      eagle owl 22 August 2019 15: 43
      +5
      Not ... A museum from it should be made only in the steppes of Ukraine ... Instead of a nasal figure, it would be nice to pin Trupchinov with nails, two hundred. To name is a museum of alternative history. Ik-sponat first - chowen rowing, underwater. Developed a speed of up to 15 knots, if the Ukrainian divers did not fly flippers before
    3. Dietmar
      Dietmar 22 August 2019 16: 25
      -2
      Salokoptilnuyu from it, and apply to the Guinness Book of Records for the largest salokoptilnuyu and the most useless submarine.
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 22 August 2019 17: 20
      +1
      Give it to me all - I guarantee 1000 percent I will utilize it very fast and without a trace! !! wassat
    5. Monar
      Monar 22 August 2019 17: 47
      0
      Well, she has nothing to do with the return of Crimea. Decayed before. Only as a symbol of the ruined own government of Ukraine.
      But to gut everything poisonous. Brew is where it’s dangerous. Cut holes where safe. And flood.
      To the delight of divers.
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 22 August 2019 22: 06
        0
        Quote: Monar

        But to gut everything poisonous. Brew is where it’s dangerous. Cut holes where safe. And flood.
        To the delight of divers.

        Good idea! I really like, support. I would just supplement it, in a shallow place and with added good lighting, for the safety of scuba divers.
    6. Terenin
      Terenin 22 August 2019 18: 45
      +2
      The word "recycle", according to dictionaries, is "use with benefit." I hope the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation act in this way.
    7. antivirus
      antivirus 22 August 2019 18: 55
      -1
      cut everything and put the toilet bowls on the border of the Crimea-Khers obl-to promote the NavyUkr.
  2. lexa333
    lexa333 22 August 2019 15: 35
    +5
    It is a pity that they will not make the museum.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 August 2019 01: 48
      +1
      Solidarity with you! If my memory serves me, there have been cases in the "West" when a submarine (decommissioned ...) was bought by citizens and buried in the ground, thereby getting a bunker in case of a nuclear war! In the Ukrainian version, the phrase: "A submarine in the steppes of Ukraine ..." would take on a true meaning ...
  3. Krilovchanin
    Krilovchanin 22 August 2019 15: 38
    +4
    How will the Ukrainian admirals submariners serve now?
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 22 August 2019 18: 45
      +7
      Quote: Krilovchanin
      How will the Ukrainian admirals submariners serve now?

      Transfer to carts.
      1. eagle owl
        eagle owl 23 August 2019 00: 37
        0
        I came, the dumb sucker - pidmanula, pidvela
  4. Amateur
    Amateur 22 August 2019 15: 43
    +14
    As soon as they’re disposed of, the pan-and-headed admiral tankers will immediately roll out the bill for 1 billion shares for the destruction of a unique, non-analogous world unit of the Ukrainian fleet. Based on this, the United States and the European Union will announce next sanctions to Russia.
    It’s necessary to patch it up a bit, so that it wouldn’t drown right away and overnight drive to a beach in Ukrainian territorial waters.
    Let them mess with her. And then still pay money for disposal. soldier
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 August 2019 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: Amateur
      Let them mess with her. And then still pay money for disposal.

      Immediately it was necessary to force the dill to be taken away by the metal, and now it’s just a hassle, even more money for utilization. In general, they again threw a dirty trick.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 August 2019 15: 45
    +9
    Mosfilm let her rent it indefinitely from the state to take part in filming! "Make up" the submarine, and, will play the role of a submarine during the Great Patriotic War!
    1. Monar
      Monar 22 August 2019 17: 49
      0
      Yeah. A group of filmmakers will fall in there. So that is all. Drown. No, it’s better to remove the blizzard, but without sacrifices.
    2. MBRSS
      MBRSS 22 August 2019 19: 07
      +2
      Why Patriotic? You can about the cold war. In any case, it’s a pity to break such a boat. And unprofitable. Vote for the museum!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 August 2019 19: 51
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      Mosfilm let her rent

      They won’t take it, it will fall apart.
  6. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 22 August 2019 15: 46
    +8
    My proposal, to offer neighbors to pick up themselves with 100000000 r in addition, will be dragged away and we will save 95000000.
  7. E.S.
    E.S. 22 August 2019 15: 53
    +10
    I give an idea:
    Together with the "government of the Crimea in exile" it is necessary to form a "crew of the submarine Zaporozhye in exile", to draw up the staffing table, salaries, all the affairs, while not forgetting that the crew is outside the location of the boat and outside the home base, therefore - on a business trip, with all the resulting travel, apartment and other payments. And, it is desirable to emphasize loyalty to the ideals of NATO and unanimity with US NAVY, appoint a woman as the commander of the ship, for example Zelensky's mother-in-law, because the commander of a single submarine cannot be appointed anyway
  8. Kelwin
    Kelwin 22 August 2019 15: 55
    +3
    You can’t just tow it to the right place, and let it drift home, let it figure it out yourself .. disable and weapon systems to disable and go.
  9. Vitas
    Vitas 22 August 2019 15: 55
    +7
    Budget funds for the disposal of someone else's fleet? Give it to the "black metalworkers" for sawing or drive it to the shores of Ukraine, they will take it and drag it in tow ...
  10. Well done
    Well done 22 August 2019 15: 56
    +18
    Pay 200 million for recycling ?! A "brigade" of 4 people worked for us at Russian Railways. So they disposed of the diesel locomotive ChME-3 in 2 days, all without residues, FREE OF CHARGE. The utilizers themselves do not live badly. laughing
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 22 August 2019 19: 01
      +3
      Quote: Welldone
      Pay 200 million for recycling ?! A "brigade" of 4 people worked for us at Russian Railways. So they disposed of the diesel locomotive ChME-3 in 2 days, all without residues, FREE OF CHARGE. The utilizers themselves do not live badly.

      There are plenty of such "utilizers" in every locality. They utilize the locomotive and the rails at the same time. They only need to get the submarine out of the water, and even then it is not necessary. And they will build a reception point for color and ferrous metal right in the port in one night. What nafig 193 million ?! For what??? No, if the old carriage inside was brewed, tady - OH.
      PS And didn’t you think of selling to the Chinese?
      1. Well done
        Well done 22 August 2019 20: 30
        +1
        Very accurately noticed! drinks
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 August 2019 19: 53
      +1
      Quote: Welldone
      Pay for the disposal of 200 million?

      Yes, for such a lot of money, craftsmen will cut the entire Ukrainian fleet, and there will be no nuts.
  11. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 22 August 2019 16: 03
    +3
    What for to spend so much? Isn’t it easier to use it in the form of a target for training exercises?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 August 2019 20: 03
      0
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Isn’t it easier to use it in the form of a target for training exercises?

      Do not hold out, drown.
  12. DenZ
    DenZ 22 August 2019 16: 04
    +6
    Why spend budget money on cutting needles if it’s easier to make a museum and it doesn’t matter that the boat is former Ukrainian, it doesn’t matter at all It is important that this is the last of the boats of this project of the former in the USSR one of the most popular. And what are after this desire of our Ministry of Defense to patriotic education of the younger generation .. There are no words. Mediocrity.
    1. MBRSS
      MBRSS 22 August 2019 19: 15
      +1
      That's it! Uniform disgusting! Here patriotic associations of sailors and veteran submariners should have their say. And even the last "Shark", a masterpiece of Russian submarine construction, will soon be cut into scrap.
      And in general, even for scrap, the ships are SELLING, and not yet being paid to utilizers.
  13. Antokha
    Antokha 22 August 2019 16: 04
    +4
    Earlier, the Ministry of Defense has already announced a tender for its disposal, but then canceled at the request of the customer.

    Is it schizophrenia? Isn't the customer the Ministry of Defense?
    1. My_log_in
      My_log_in 22 August 2019 16: 28
      +1
      Black Sea Fleet, apparently, the customer
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    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 22 August 2019 18: 26
      +4
      Good evening Rudolphhi I also tend to think that we are talking about the B-380. Judging by the blog of Lana Sator on the submarine there is no protection. https://lana-sator.livejournal.com/233676.html
      Two relics of the fleet are the B-380 submarine, built in the 1981-1982 years, and the PD-16 floating dock, built in the 1938-1941 years.
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 22 August 2019 18: 30
        +4
        Inside the B-380.
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        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 22 August 2019 18: 35
          +3
          Quote: rudolff
          For all these years they have already grown together.

          Still with 1992 live together.
          Quote: rudolff
          There, the floating dock is in such a state that it is possible to dispose of it together with the boat

          He can at any time as PD-50 go to the bottom.
          1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 22 August 2019 18: 48
            +3
            This couple remains to be towed to the PD-30 dock and disposed of together.
  15. Avior
    Avior 22 August 2019 16: 32
    +3
    In fact, there is still the B-380 project 641B, she was waiting for disposal.
    I understand that Zaporozhye is not specifically named.
  16. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 22 August 2019 16: 43
    +2
    Take the boat and the ship out to sea to be "shot" during combat firing of the fleet and drown it profitably. These pelvis are non-nuclear and will not harm the environment. As a bonus - saving two hundred lamas.
  17. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 22 August 2019 17: 21
    +2
    Definitely a museum!
  18. Piramidon
    Piramidon 22 August 2019 17: 59
    0
    The Russian Defense Ministry has nevertheless decided to dispose of the former and only submarine of the Ukrainian Navy, Zaporozhye.

    And the command staff of the submarine fleet of all Ukraine, too?
  19. beeper
    beeper 22 August 2019 18: 57
    +1
    As far as I remember, not so long ago, in the same South Bay, a similar Russian submarine for years in a floating dock (it seems that its number 15 was so bad that even that floating dock itself can no longer functionally submerge?) Dangled "in endless repairs" - possibly it was decided to dispose of it for untold budget millions?
    And the Russians, in my opinion, need to get rid of the politically toxic Ukrainian submarine Zaporozhye so that there is no trace of it and no stench left on Russian territory (and even, having economically saved millions of rubles of Russian taxpayers, return to Ukraine, "in load "to those sailors from the Kerch provocation, whom Russia is going to release, put them on the deck of this submarine and tow them, with the same" Krasnoperekopsk ("Yani Kapu") "together with demilitarized" armored vehicles ", outside the Crimean borders to the agreed rendezvous point where in the Sea of ​​Azov, let the washingtutki together with the "pidvodny chavny" take them away and dispose of them themselves, and let the arrested Russian trawlers-dry-cargo tankers with crews and captive defenders of Donbass from Bandera "zindans" and "secret CIA prisons" give them in exchange)!
    It is a pity, of course, that the naval museum of this last "pr.641" will not work, since the diaspora and Galicia Banderlog will try to "fetishize" it to "educate the Bandera youngsters" as a "piece (remember that the deck of a battleship is this is the inviolable territory of his country, on this they will play - "twist" they are masters!) of Ukraine in the occupied Crimea "and even if they do not arrange any provocations, then when they are in Sevastopol, they will secretly tie their Petliura-Bandera" zhovto -blakytny strichki (ribbons) "and post in the" networks "their" heroic "selfies (they say," Ukrainian ensign in the Crimea ") ...
    1. Draf-d
      Draf-d 22 August 2019 22: 00
      +1
      Totally agree with you.
  20. segamegament
    segamegament 22 August 2019 19: 47
    -4
    Glory to the toilet! There she belongs!
  21. kind
    kind 22 August 2019 20: 26
    +3
    The cost of the work is estimated at 193 million rubles, the deadline for their completion is November 10, 2020.

    My friends Tajiks will cut it for a couple of million. We will give the remaining money to children and the elderly!
  22. Berkut24
    Berkut24 22 August 2019 20: 42
    0
    Some kind of weak headline. It must be so - Russia decided to destroy the entire Ukrainian submarine fleet! One combat autogen.
  23. Antares
    Antares 22 August 2019 20: 49
    -1
    hardly Zaporozhye.
    It still belongs to Ukraine, but for now, Ukrainian ships do not touch. Half were transferred to the commission, and then the exchange stopped due to the aggravation of the situation in the Donbass. But the property of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine in movable equivalent has not yet been touched.
  24. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 22 August 2019 20: 51
    -1
    We do not have the right to cut it without UA permission. Since this is the property of Ukraine. And only to her, to dispose of the ship.
  25. ananias mudishev
    ananias mudishev 22 August 2019 22: 01
    0
    Take her to any scrap collection point, where her Tajik team will cut in a week
  26. mu1972
    mu1972 22 August 2019 23: 27
    +1
    she is an excellent place in Ballaclava as a museum! Moreover, the tunnel was dug just for this project!
  27. MstislavHrabr
    MstislavHrabr 23 August 2019 00: 48
    0
    And Ukraine’s weak bill for parking ?!
  28. Palagecha
    Palagecha 23 August 2019 04: 32
    -2
    Some stupidity. The boat needs to be modernized, "Calibers" installed and the fleet will receive a gift.
    1. romandostalo
      romandostalo 23 August 2019 08: 42
      +1
      There is nothing to modernize there. Modernization of this boat for "Caliber" will cost more than a new boat!
  29. made13
    made13 23 August 2019 13: 15
    0
    In Sevastopol, the question has already been raised several times in order to overtake the cruiser Kutuzov from Novorossiysk to the "historic base". At the same time, the submarine Zaporozhye and the BOD Kerch (there was a fire in the engine compartment) 2 objects for a museum. Only on this no one can quickly cut the budget, and even make money on scrap metal.
  30. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 23 August 2019 19: 05
    0
    It can be pulled in tow to deep water and drown under the anthem of Ukraine.
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  32. white
    white 23 August 2019 23: 36
    0
    hmm, an overwhelming task for Russia !, there is not enough for the disposal of "Kuznetsov", you can at least dispose of it, I wonder if we will hear this on TV screens in the annual reports of the Ministry of Defense ?, talk shows on 1m and Russia 1 will be?
  33. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 23 August 2019 23: 49
    0
    You can make a hotel: recruit "tenants" (arriving tourists) to the place of the "crew", climbed in, battened down the hatches - and into the "autonomous" without leaving the pier. Inside, everything is as in fact in "autonomous" under the command of the commander (from military pensioners of submariners). The voucher ended - they "returned" to the home port, as a souvenir "submariner's diploma". And we will also collect ferrous metal from the Ukrainian gas transportation system ... good