USA decided to equip all Warthogs with a new wing

Boeing Corporation has committed to equipping the entire fleet of American A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircraft with a new wing. The corresponding contract with the Ministry of Defense worth $ 999 million was executed on Wednesday.

This glider update will affect the 109 Warthogs, three more wings will be made in reserve. Earlier, from 2011 year, an agreement was implemented on the production of the specified structural element for 173 aircraft. Earlier this month, the entire order was completed. The new front of operations is supposed to last until August 2030.

As noted by news Military.com portal, a total of 281 A-10 units are in service with the US forces. In recent years, two cars have been lost (collided in the air in 2017).

Aircraft deployed in the 1976 year and deployed in the Middle East, Europe and the Pacific played a huge role in the air campaign launched in the 2014 year against ISIS *, helping to provide air support to Iraqi and American ground forces

- indicates the designated publication, explaining that in addition, A-10 proved to be in air operations in Afghanistan.

*Banned terrorist organization in the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Rimlianin]

Good attack aircraft. Workhorse.

[krillon]

In Afghanistan, the Soviet Union suffered significant losses from MANPADS shipped mainly from the United States in connection with this issue. Where did they successfully use their warthogs with at least minimal air defense? Zushka does not count.

[white]

in Afghanistan, Soviet-style MANPADS + at least the remnants of the Stingers, in Iraq, Soviet-style MANPADS for sure, and possibly European systems.

[Dikson]

The Americans got a good car. All the same, they understand at the Pentagon that only stealth and UAVs can’t win any war .. And they continue to prepare for a large-scale war .. Yes, and it’s worthless to lag behind in the preparation and modernization of the army and navy ..

[Nikolaevich I]

Well .... And how much "stench" there was (!): The A-10 is outdated, it is being removed from service ... The Su-25 is outdated, it must also be removed from service! Stormtroopers are not needed at all, they are outdated as a "class"! And here ...: On the A-10 they change the wing; the Su-25SM3 is being adopted ...

[Ka-52]

Well .... And how much "stench" there was (!): The A-10 is outdated, it is being removed from service ... The Su-25 is outdated, it must also be removed from service! Stormtroopers are not needed at all, they are outdated as a "class"! And here ...: On the A-10 they change the wing; the Su-25SM3 is being adopted.

only lovers of Hollywood are outraged

[PROXOR]

Explain. At SU-25SM№, a complex was installed for working by means of the principle of firing and forgetting. Or will our Rooks still plow the land with Nurses?

[rotmistr60]

Last week, this topic was already discussed. I repeat - at one time the plane turned out to be good, so it is a pity for the Americans to part with it. Maybe right.

[Monar]

Specialists, explain what "new" wing means? A redesign or just a replacement for tired metal?
According to my information, one attack aircraft cost 18 million evergreens. Let inflation and now it is 30. And here it turns out about 10 lyam only for the wings.

[Ka-52]

Specialists, explain what "new" wing means? A redesign or just a replacement for tired metal?

structural change, change in the materials of the nodes and power elements of the wing (stringers, spars, etc.), change in the area of ​​the wing, change in the attachment points of the center section, etc.

[Tartar]

Most likely they decided to kill two birds with one stone. Replace old wings that have accumulated metal fatigue that does not allow further operation and at the same time upgrade the design.

[Monar]

Well then, it is clear. R&D, production adjustment. And the series is relatively small.

[Dikson]

I don’t think that they are changing the attachment point .. - this is too serious an alteration of not only the planes, but the fuselage also needs to be picked .. Otherwise, yes ... the load there is serious, it may well be redone for new missiles, yes and given the age of the machine and the application experience, they probably found some solutions to strengthen the wing ...

[Wedmak]

Metal fatigue was revealed there, which is why they change. The machine was really successful, so these costs will pay off. True, I will remain of my opinion - in vain they made a plane around the gun. For the most part, this six-barreled monster flies with a passenger.

[Ka-52]

Metal fatigue was revealed there, which is why they change.

Yes of course. Why write if you don’t know? If fatigue occurs in the metal, then the knot is usually changed. In the wing, it most often occurs in places of the most frequent and constant stresses - that is, in the center section area, in the places of attachment of wing spars and fuselage frame. It is there, on the ear-plug, that stress concentration most often occurs. To eliminate fatigue deformations, the entire wing is not required to be replaced. It's too expensive. Modernization of the wing of the A-10 is a transition to a lighter wing (due to replacement with aluminum) with better mechanization.

[Wedmak]

In the 2011 year there was a debate in general about keeping the A-10 in service, the planes are old and apparently not only morally, there were problems. However, there is nothing to replace them with, so the modernization program was adopted, as you said with the replacement of the wing. And now we turn on the logic: the glider of the aircraft, this is the most durable in its composition, often change the giblets. And here, right on the go, a whole wing for a replacement for no reason, because there are no alternatives to the A-10? They would have done some money, they would have made the Thunderbolt 3 with improved characteristics and without a bulky gun for half the plane. But no ... And apparently the replacement of the nodes would not have cost.

[Revolver]

Quote: Wedmak

For the most part, this six-barreled monster flies with a passenger.

Ask Iraqi tankers caught in Desert Storm. The few who are lucky enough to survive.

[Nycomed]

A good car, but really nothing to replace. Great plane!

[Mikhail Drabkin]

—- Warthogs plan to equip 3D sound systems to “dramatically improve the spatial perception of the combat situation” with volumetric dispersion of communication and sound indicators in the cockpit.
—- The goal is to reduce pilot disorientation, mistakes, fatigue and improve the quality and speed of decision making with a minimum of re-requests.
—- For the same purpose, the Air Force conducts research and development on hearing aids (unlike headphones) with adaptive filtering of noise sources, and individual tuning.

[Reserve buildbat]

And three wings in reserve - which ones? Two right, one left or vice versa? And then, as I understand it, there are changing consoles. From the landing gear to the tip.

[Ka-52]

And three wings in reserve - which ones? Two right, one left or vice versa?

he essentially has one wing, with a center wing. It passes through the fuselage.

photo as an example, this is certainly not a Warthog

[Avior]

All aircraft have one wing.

[Reserve buildbat]

The biplane, anyway, TWO wings))) The triplane has three. In general, I was just joking, If we discard the fact that the A-10 change console. The center section remains the same, as I recall.

[Avior]

The funny thing is the translation of the numbers from the original.
Below I cited a quote from the original source on this topic, and I wonder who and how managed to translate it, so the numbers are different?

[Reserve buildbat]

"This contract provides for up to 112 new A-10 wing assemblies and up to 15 wing kits," the award stipulates.
As I understand it, "The contract provides for the supply of up to 112 new wing assemblies (wing assemblies) A-10 and up to 15 sets of wing parts. (Unassembled wings).

[Avior]

Exactly. Now compare with what is written in the article. Okay, the text, but the numbers from English, too, translated with errors?

[Reserve buildbat]

What to do ... Another calculus))) Who has dozens, who has dozens. Again, convert inches to meters

[Fike_oz]

Especially in an-2

[Avior]

The wing is one.
But half-planes (consoles) are left or right.

[Galleon]

This is a lecturer at the school who gave us this pearl:
- "Without me, you, my beloved, fly with one wing" - an empty threat. It's very normal to fly with one wing. Because the wing has two consoles.

[Ka-52]

This is a lecturer at the school who gave us this pearl:
- "Without me, you, my beloved, fly with one wing" - an empty threat. It's very normal to fly with one wing. Because the wing has two consoles.

in our terminology. In English, the monoplane has two wings.

[Avior]

There is clearly one wing in the source text.

... "This contract provides for up to 112 new A-10 wing assemblies and up to 15 wing kits," the award stipulates.

112 and 15 in stock
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/21/boeing-wins-contract-worth-nearly-1-billion-replace-remaining-10-wings.html

[Ka-52]

in the English language documentation for American airplanes, "left wing" and "right wing" are written, where left hand-side wing was also found.

[Avior]

In the source text 112 and 15 spare.
I don’t know who translated the numbers like that.

[Fike_oz]

Wing = two consoles + center section.

[Air force]

109 aircraft x 5 wings (three in reserve) = 545 wings, a contract of 999 million, it turns out one wing is $ 1. Not cheap ... That's why it seems silly to me to compare the military budgets of the Amerkis and the Russian Federation.

[Forest]

They can’t create new ones, they can’t modernize the glider and remote control, they’ll probably change avionics, they’re stuffing Chinese microcircuits.

[Archivist Vasya]

Great plane, only if the gun and ammunition occupy the whole nose, then where is the radar located then?

[Avior]

This is a stormtrooper

[Archivist Vasya]

This is understandable, but it is also needed to detect targets on the ground, not only to work on backlighting. For example, there was an article about the Su-25, here is an excerpt:

The possibility of equipping attack aircraft with the MF2 airborne radar station is being considered, ”a source in the defense industry told the agency.
According to him, "the Fazotron-NIIR corporation plans, in particular, to adapt the MF2 radar for installation on a modernized two-seat Su-25UB attack aircraft.
Small-sized onboard dual-purpose radar station “Kogitor” (MF2)
The station is installed on aircraft and provides round-the-clock and all-weather information of the required level of detail (down to detailed, which allows not only to detect, but if necessary, to recognize the type and type of object)

[spectr]

They may survive to the point that they will convert them into an UAV option.

[E.S.]

I agree with all the fans of the A-10, a great plane! Only the wings fall off and it is unclear why they drag with them almost two tons of any garbage that provokes the suicidal actions of pilots

[Zaurbek]

The mistake in creating the concept .... on the Su25 is more harmonious, the gun was set 30mm weaker and part of the work to destroy the BT was moved to 80mm NURS.

[E.S.]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: Wedmak

For the most part, this six-barreled monster flies with a passenger.

Ask Iraqi tankers caught in Desert Storm. The few who are lucky enough to survive.

More and more verb: learn the materiel and specialized sources!
The main means of tank destruction were not even ATGMs, but Mavericks with a firing range of more than 20 km and warheads weighing more than 50 kg. This is exactly the case about which the author of the original thesis writes.

[E.S.]

Quote: Michael Drabkin

—- Warthogs plan to equip 3D sound systems to “dramatically improve the spatial perception of the combat situation” with volumetric dispersion of communication and sound indicators in the cockpit.
—- The goal is to reduce pilot disorientation, mistakes, fatigue and improve the quality and speed of decision making with a minimum of re-requests.
—- For the same purpose, the Air Force conducts research and development on hearing aids (unlike headphones) with adaptive filtering of noise sources, and individual tuning.

Oh, more marketing victims have appeared!
We look forward to 3D-acoustic information systems, realizing that in humans this system is fundamentally 2D.
F-35 is not enough for them, even in the A-10 they’re picking the same little hands

[Ka-52]

3D speaker system is my snore according to my wife

[E.S.]

Quote: Avior

This is a stormtrooper

And where is the OLS detection and laser illumination?

[Avior]

There is, for example, a hanging container AN / AAQ-28 (V) 4 LITENING AT targeting pods

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litening
There is another electronics

[Zomanus]

Super plane. Always liked, along with Hokai.
Yes, not ours, but super-duper.

[E.S.]

Quote: Ka-52

3D speaker system is my snore according to my wife

It's good that she does not work for the Pentagon, otherwise they would not have been engaged in marketing nonsense :-)

[E.S.]

Quote: Zomanus

Super plane. Always liked, along with Hokai.
Yes, not ours, but super-duper.

Yes, just a great car, they would have attached a tank gun to it, there would be no price!

[Ustin]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Well .... And how much "stench" there was (!): The A-10 is outdated, it is being removed from service ... The Su-25 is outdated, it must also be removed from service! Stormtroopers are not needed at all, they are outdated as a "class"! And here ...: On the A-10 they change the wing; the Su-25SM3 is being adopted ...

Everything is correct. Outdated. But neither the "partners", nor we have a worthy continuation yet, at best, according to the press, it will be in five years. So we are modernizing for a couple.

[Zaurbek]

The song was like this:
- You are an aggregate, Dusya! ... Lube sang.

[E.S.]

Quote: Avior

There is, for example, a hanging container AN / AAQ-28 (V) 4 LITENING AT targeting pods

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litening
There is another electronics

So, we write: "There is no built-in OLS from the word" Absolutely ", to use high-precision weapons it is necessary to slightly undercut the aerodynamics and occupy one attachment point with a container. -16. At the same time, the cost of an OLS container must be added to the price tag for the plane. "

[Constructor68]

He is a ground attack aircraft and he needs OLS first of all to select targets on the ground. When attacked by a fighter, he has few chances of salvation. And the work of attack aircraft, if the enemy has destructive aircraft, must be covered by their own.

[Avior]

Aerodynamics container will not spoil the attack aircraft.
And needed to work on the ground, this is not a fighter.

[E.S.]

Quote: Designer 68

He is a ground attack aircraft and he needs OLS first of all to select targets on the ground. When attacked by a fighter, he has few chances of salvation. And the work of attack aircraft, if the enemy has destructive aircraft, must be covered by their own.

I would even aggravate: "Without OLS, it is only according to the data of the ground avivnavodchik to water the enemy with a cannon or obscenities. In both cases, they can answer from the ground"

[Avior]

He has a standard container, and they put them on f-18.
Unification

[VicktorVR]

Handsome. Where is the super-cloth there. It's a pity they didn’t remove it from service :).
And the A10 will definitely not be sold to Ukraine.

[E.S.]

Quote: Avior

Aerodynamics container will not spoil the attack aircraft.
And needed to work on the ground, this is not a fighter.

Well, yes, well, yes, tell me more about the boundary layer. That's why I said "to do it" because fuel consumption will increase anyway.

[E.S.]

Quote: Avior

He has a standard container, and they put them on f-18.
Unification

That's it. Moreover, the F-18 can work both underground and through the air, so the container is sometimes needed, sometimes not. And the A-10 works only on the ground and it always needs a container with OLS, so it can be riveted with rivets.
But it’s better to embed it inside.