In the United States called the amount that they are willing to pay for the rental of Greenland

The United States planned to offer the Danish government $ 600 million in annual payments for the transfer of autonomy to Greenland. It is reported by the American edition The Washington Post.

This amount was determined based on the annual expenditures of the Danish government for the maintenance of island autonomy. At the same time, the period during which these payments were planned was not called, most likely, "unlimited rent" was implied. In addition, according to a newspaper source, Washington was ready to pay some lump sum to Copenhagen to "stimulate the deal."

Earlier, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen called this deal absurd and refused to even discuss this issue at the upcoming meeting with US President Donald Trump. The American leader, having heard such an answer, canceled his visit to Denmark, scheduled for September 2-3 this year.

Last week it became known that the US administration was seriously discussing the option of including the largest island in the world of Greenland in the United States, considering options for its purchase. The idea was initiated by US President Donald Trump himself, who was very interested in this island.

Meanwhile, the EU strongly opposed the lease of the island to the United States, fully supporting the positions of the governments of Denmark and Greenland.

On the Greenland issue, the European Commission fully accepts and supports the position expressed by the Danish Prime Minister and the Government of Greenland

- said the representative of the European Commission Natasha Berto at a briefing in Brussels.

Comments

[Victor_B]

So what?
And not expensive.
I would take it too. Or gave ...

[Vasily Ponomarev]

well, I don’t understand what they’re tossing and turning, anyway it’s like a reserve with them, but they live in some dugouts

[Tatyana]

Allegedly, historical experience in the appropriation of foreign territories is for rent, but in fact Washington has forever. Suffice it to recall the rental of Russian Alaska from the royal RI!

After Vel. Oct social Revolution about renting Alaska in Russia not only forgot, but 100 years later the Americans "remembered" that they allegedly paid for the rent of Alaska to the Tsarist Republic of Ingushetia a long time ago, which, however, allegedly sank along with the American ship when it was delivered from the USA by sea.

So the United States - the tenants of foreign lands are still those! They rent for ridiculous money, carry out a revolution in the country, and then after 100 years they will say that they have bought the foreign land from the former landlord for a long time into their property.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

If I am not mistaken, Alaska was bought immediately

[Tatyana]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

If I am not mistaken, Alaska was bought immediately

They did not buy, but allegedly paid the entire rental of Alaska immediately for 100 years in advance. Only this small rental money - forward immediately for 100 years - Russia has not received a single dollar from the United States.

Look now for Russia to wind in the field and eat American tales and it is not known what authenticity the documents are and how many there really were!

[Vasily Ponomarev]

https://burckina-new.livejournal.com/1806843.html

not supposedly the sale of the territory not on 100 but forever, but about fairy tales you probably don’t know what kind of money the railway was built

[Tatyana]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

not supposedly the sale of the territory not on 100 but forever, but about fairy tales you probably don’t know what kind of money the railway was built

Thanks for the information! I’ll look at your information for sure, otherwise I had other long-standing information from books! I'll have to figure it out!

I had information that American money did not reach RI. Perhaps, in your opinion, only a very, very small part has come from the American payment for Alaska.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

and you don’t get sick, you can read about this story on the Internet

[Tatyana]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

https://burckina-new.livejournal.com/1806843.html

not supposedly the sale of the territory not on 100 but forever, but about fairy tales you probably don’t know what kind of money the railway was built

Unfortunately, Vasily, your link opens now with a completely different topic - an article on demography in Russia!

[Vasily Ponomarev]

oops , sorry, I just got an article about demography here, and I threw it here, here's a fool

[Tatyana]

It is believed that the lease term for Russian Alaska, which has been re-leased several times in history, ended in 1957 under N.S. Khrushchev, who, in fact, voluntarily played up the United States in appropriating Russian Alaska, wanting to like the Americans in the West, like Gorbachev.

Today it is no secret to anyone that history is an inaccurate science and every government rewrites it for itself. And if, even there is a contract of sale of Russian Alaska, can you be sure that it is real? Alaska's lease expired in 1957. The United States, with a heartache, was going to give the land back or try to extend the lease term for a very good amount. But Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev actually gave the land to America. And only after that, in the 1959 year, Alaska became the 49 m state of the USA. Many argue that the agreement on the transfer of Alaska to US ownership was never signed by the USSR - nor was it signed by the Russian Empire. Therefore, Alaska may have borrowed free of charge from Russia. We know that history does not like subjunctive deviations and the past cannot be returned. But the fact that the Russian land of Alaska turned out to be part of the territory of the United States raises great doubts.

Source: https://fishki.net/1254956-srok-arendy-aljaski-istek-v-1957-godu.html © Fishki.net

[krot]

Cool striped came up with! Print yourself candy wrappers and buy land for this ..) Although they have had this idea for a long time, from the time of the development of America, when gold was exchanged for glass beads) This offer to buy recalls exactly)

[eagle owl]

And besides the minus - have something to say?

[Sergej1972]

I read the pre-revolutionary Russian press of that period. There it was definitely reported on the sale of Alaska. And academician Bolkhovitinov writes about this in his books.

[eagle owl]

Tell us why Alaska became a state only after 100 years of a supposedly never existing lease, and not in the same year when it was allegedly bought?

[Errr]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

well, I don’t understand what they’re tossing and turning, anyway it’s like a reserve with them, but they live in some dugouts

Do you say dugouts?))) Would you even look at the pictures, or something ...

Center of Nuuk (Gothoba) - the administrative center of Greenland.

Nuuk on the background of Sermitsiak.

Nuuk aerial view.

Panorama of Nuuk.

[Honest Citizen]

If the Danes give Greenland, we are waiting for the start of the third world because of the Arctic.

[Mixanchik]

Quote: Honest Citizen

If the Danes give Greenland, we are waiting for the start of the third world because of the Arctic.

It seems that the Danes sent Trump away and he was very offended ...
If sold, Russia would have serious problems in the Arctic.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Honest Citizen

If the Danes give Greenland, we are waiting for the start of the third world because of the Arctic.

Pyakin: China invested lard in Greenland. There are a lot of resources. With global warming, it will become the Green Earth. Having ZZ-China will become an Arctic power and will require the NSR. Hence the decision - do not give ZZ to China. How? Only through the USA. Here is such a song.

[Honest Citizen]

Mavrikiy
Yes, something does not believe in your comment at all - there are so many horror stories that directly howl like a wolf ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Mavrikiy
Yes, something does not believe in your comment at all - there are so many horror stories that directly howl like a wolf ...

Are you afraid of the mineral resources of Greenland and the fact that China swelled into it? Still a parrot:

The Greenland Inuit are the only people of the Far North who have achieved such wide autonomy. This is all the more surprising, given that no one particularly supported Inuit nationalism from the outside. Among the Inuit, ultra-left Maoist ideas were widely spread, which even the USSR did not support. Perhaps this orientation has become the reason that China is trying to establish ties with the authorities of Greenland. The United States, after Denmark joined NATO in the late 40s, tried to behave apolitically, confining itself to military penetration permitted within the framework of cooperation. Denmark was never particularly happy about this, but was forced to endure. The United States turned a blind eye to the fact that Denmark often violated international law by preventing anyone from entering Greenland's territorial waters. The main potential buyers are two Chinese state-owned companies. According to the 2008 US Geological Survey, Greenland could contain up to 17,53 billion barrels of oil and 148,21 trillion cubic meters of gas. Greenland is also rich in rare earth metals, in which China's demand is growing more and more - the country is the world leader in the production of smartphones.

[mark1]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Having ZZ-China will become an Arctic power and will require the NSR.

Rather, it will require the Northwest Passage, and on the Northern Sea Route everything above our thermal water - for God's sake the wind is in the sails.

[Ros 56]

Even if they are demanded, the NSR is ours and only ours, but we will be able to stand up for ourselves.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Honest Citizen

If the Danes give Greenland, we are waiting for the start of the third world because of the Arctic.

Because of the Arctic or not, nobody needs a nuclear war, but medium-range missiles will justify there in a couple of years if the Danes surrender Greenland.

[Honest Citizen]

The rockets will settle there anyway, it's not even a question. The question is that the US has "few" claims to the Arctic. And with the acquisition of Greenland, their "shares" will go up sharply.

[den3080]

Quote: Honest Citizen

If the Danes give Greenland, we are waiting for the start of the third world because of the Arctic.

I think they will. Not expensive.
The times of power of Denmark are long gone. In Roskilde, in the tomb of the Danish kings, still operating, you can see / experience the former power of the Kingdom of Denmark. Vikings. The most powerful of all that were.
Steeper than the Swedes, and the Norwegians at the Danish kings in general went to vassals for centuries.
Today - just flimsy, but memories.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Victor_B

So what?
And not expensive.
I would take it too. Or gave ...

Translate 600 lyam. Card number **** **** **** ****. And Greenland is yours. I can also advise Madagascar and New Zealand. Two for the price of one. The discount is valid until the end of the week.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: sergo1914

Translate 600 lyam. Card number

Do not forget to throw off the small percentile, it will be counted before God!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: sergo1914

Translate 600 lyam. Card number **** **** **** ****. And Greenland is yours. I can also advise Madagascar and New Zealand.

And I'm interested in the moon. Is the card number the same? Is the discount valid?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: sergo1914

Translate 600 lyam. Card number **** **** **** ****. And Greenland is yours. I can also advise Madagascar and New Zealand.

And I'm interested in the moon. Is the card number the same? Is the discount valid?

The moon today is 30%. The map is the same.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: sergo1914

The moon today is 30%. The map is the same.

Thank. But the wife is against.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Do not show this news to Ukraine

[Vend]

The White House was ready to offer Denmark annual payments of 600 million dollars for the transfer of Greenland to the United States.

I remember they already rented Alaska

[Vasily Ponomarev]

and how much did they rent it for?

[Vend]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

and how much did they rent it for?

7,2 million dollars. However, Russia never received the money.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

read about it on the internet

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

read about it on the internet

[Personalrec]

Lord, you should at least read Vicki for a start. There are links to the Russian archive. There was no rental at all - there was a sale.

[Vend]

Quote: PersonalRec

Lord, you should at least read Vicki for a start. There are links to the Russian archive. There was no rental at all - there was a sale.

The agreement says ASSIGNMENT, not sale. And once again I want to determine that Russia has not received a fee.

[Personalrec]

Did Solovyov tell you this? There are documents in the archive which indicate that they bought equipment for the railway for this money, so there is no need to tell stories here.

[To be or not to be]

Who is bigger! TIME..

[loki565]

They already rented Alaska.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

if I don’t confuse anything, then immediately bought

[Serg koma]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

if I don’t confuse anything, then immediately bought

Minus for the fact that they do not know the story?
I don’t understand one thing - US public debt

United States public debt exceeded $ 22 trillion.
27% - intergovernmental debt to various state companies (to a pension fund, for example);
33% - public debt to various individuals and banks;
40% - debt to foreign creditors.

From where they will take the money - they will print candy wrappers, or they will fall at the feet of China (which would be re-credited)

China and Japan are the largest holders of US government bonds totaling $ 2 trillion 210 billion. The average yield on all their securities is 2,6% per annum. Russia has reduced the amount of US securities in its assets, and today it has invested only $ 14 billion in the US economy.

............

[Hypatius]

I don’t understand one thing - US public debt

So, it seems like all countries owe someone, and all are in the cons. And to whom they owe, no one speaks. So, that is not a reason to deny yourself pleasure.

[Tarasios]

What? 900 million unsecured candy wrappers a little? No question, the States will print how much is needed. Given the growing role of cashless, yes, even printing is not necessary. The main thing is that people would slowly get used to the idea that Greenland will soon leave.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

you can’t even read, where does it say about 900 million?

[Sky strike fighter]

So can buy the whole of Denmark in addition to Greenland, so as not to be separated? Trump fellows opened up new business opportunities where else to invest unsecured candy wrappers, otherwise the bubbles in the markets are already blown away. So you can buy up the whole European Union in one country. Gather a collection of European countries.

[Grits]

Quote: Tarasios

Given the growing role of cashless, yes, even printing is not necessary.

From the American state. Bank just call in Denmark and say - see the numbers on the monitor? This is your money. And Greenland is now ours.

[Sky strike fighter]

Or maybe the United States will not stop on Greenland and buy some more land, because green wrappers are printed a lot in the Fed. For example, Ukraine is planning to officially sell the land. The Kurds can buy or rent the land from the Americans in Northern Syria. It only costs start. The scales are colossal. Official raiding. Interesting to inflict a preemptive strike on Copenhagen? This I so randomly figured out why this test ball was thrown with Greenland.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

you don’t know why they have wrappers printed and there is no inflation, otherwise it can tell the government

[ultra]

So they print them for export.

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

you don’t know why they have wrappers printed and there is no inflation, otherwise it can tell the government

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Enough to carry it, the economy is not so arranged, they earned money by labor

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

they earned money by labor

This is definitely undeniable! But the question is - whose work? First there were slaves, then in the process of expansion of the dollar they began to skim the economies of all countries obliged to use the dollar. Modern slavery, sir.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

slaves only worked in agriculture, and who built the most railways in the world, how did the United States become the largest economy in the world before the First World War? Or is it all about cream?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

how did the us become the largest economy in the world before the first world?

December 23, 1913 created the US Federal Reserve. The parasite is first on its economy, then on the world.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Well, I asked how they became the largest economy before the Second World War, how did they build railways most of all without slaves?

[Ingvar 72]

Basil, I am a fan of conspiracy theories. Rothschilds, Openengamers, Morgan, etc. No wonder they invested in the creation of the Fed. Their combined and economically sound investments have given impetus to the US economy. Later, they provoked the First World War, increasing capital in the war (read G. Ford), and later the Second World War, after which the dollar became the sovereign ruler of the world. They raped millions, and even billions of percent of the profits from the investment.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

your right to think so, I believe that it’s impossible to become a world power just like that

[Ingvar 72]

If you look at the story with an economic and political bias, then you can.

[Barmaleyka]

Of course, for this they raped the whole world and only the Union sent them until a couple of bastards surrendered the fortress

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

how they became the largest economy before the second world

if you don’t know then before WWII they were very deep in an indecent place

[Vasily Ponomarev]

if you don’t know then before the WWII they were the largest economy already

[dzvero]

Not quite so - before the WWII, the USA was also a major debtor. The war turned them into a major lender. Moreover, they earned both on the war itself and on the post-war reconstruction of Europe. WWII was even more profitable for them - firstly, it pulled them out of the Great Crisis, secondly, the economy rose due to military supplies, and thirdly, the Marshall plan did not come from philanthropic motives - the restoration of West Europe and Japan was not in vain. And finally, the cherry on the cake - Bretton Woodd ... The Cold War and body movements after 9/11 a pale shadow of previous profits. The world is practically under them, it’s already dangerous to plunder directly those who are already worth it, that’s the reason for their throwing recently.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

which is not entirely true, do you agree that even before the WWII they were the largest economy?

[dzvero]

Yes, they were the largest industrial producer in the world. In terms of GDP, it also comes first. But if you count the UK not as a metropolis, but along with the colonies, they will be second, and China will be third Nevertheless, industrial growth does not cancel external debt and related problems. Still, the Fed was just set up and there was another thirty long years before the unlimited printing press of world money ... And I had to look for ways to deal with competitors and crush them for myself. What took two world wars.

[Barmaleyka]

you didn’t hear anything about the great depression ?!

[Vasily Ponomarev]

I heard, but they heard about prosperity, you also did not answer my questions

[Barmaleyka]

you have already been answered a hundred times in different ways, the state economy fell into the deepest abyss several times and mattresses came out only due to a problem arising in the European markets, the capital simply hid in the USA from wars and crises as a result, the Americans rose and didn’t at the expense of their own of resources

[Antares]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

Well, I asked how they became the largest economy before the Second World War, how did they build railways most of all without slaves?

so in textbooks is told. Even in the Soviet.
Freed from London, winning in the civilian, a boom in the construction and conquest of their lands began. Then expansion continued to Mexico (in Canada did not work). Industry grew by leaps and bounds, cotton, capitalism, capitalism without brakes quickly developed the republic and led it to leadership in the world long before WW2.
Even the 1929 VD did not hit hard in the United States — it quickly restored what was lost.
They have very favorable conditions for development. 2 oceans, lack of serious enemies on land. A lot of resources. A free capitalist country without remnants of monarchies.
The presence of resources inside attracted a lot of resources from the outside. Especially human.
It's just that it is easier for supporters of the theories of the "Damned West" to consider that they have robbed someone so that they immediately took the 1st place without any problems. Not by the power of your industry! The growth of its working population. They are still the kind of workaholics you need to look for .. Religion + traditional "vdzhobyvat" and develop a career ...

[Shaitan_by]

Well, I asked how they became the largest economy before the Second World War, how did they build railways most of all without slaves?

[ultra]

Lord, another victim of the "Washington Regional Committee" sect.

[Barmaleyka]

no this is a sect

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

they earned money by labor

did you pass the story ?!

[Vasily Ponomarev]

apparently you skipped it, but okay I ask the question, who built the most railways in the world in the 19th century?

[Barmaleyka]

bliiiin
ridiculous you, the entire US economy was ALWAYS imprisoned for robbery and as soon as the economy collapsed it collapsed, it was like before WWII before WWII and it was like before the collapse of the USSR
US emerged from crises due to problems on the European continent

[Vasily Ponomarev]

so I asked who was building? and if they robbed then you can read more how? if of course you can

[Barmaleyka]

which to the top, you either turn the troll or the fool

[Antares]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

who built

don't argue with them ...
hard to prove to those who have emotions! (C)
By the way, the road construction of railway roads is a standard way of European development. RI also developed by leaps and bounds as soon as the railway construction boom began. Probably also robbed! Once the United States was robbed. RI is also capitalism .. then robbed

Quote: Barmaleyka

ALL US economy was ALWAYS sharpened

aha .. apparently the provision of software services is "Robbery"!
A company where there is nothing but human capital and mind is also robbery (money from the air)
They have long cut a chip that the mind is the best resource, not mineral resources and production.
I have not seen a chip in the US budget anywhere ---
Robbery of someone - №Dollars!
Yes, and in the leaders of taxpayers.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

thanks, at least someone adequate

[sniperino]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

why do they print wrappers and no inflation

More precisely, there has been no inflation for a long time, but this will pass, as one wise man said.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

what sage?

[sniperino]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

what sage?

Solomon's name was

[Vasily Ponomarev]

you can quote, otherwise I can’t find

[sniperino]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

can quote

This is in the original (read from right to left): הכל עובר, גם זה יעבור (per. Everything passes and it will pass)

[Vasily Ponomarev]

oh you somehow pulled

[sniperino]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

oh you somehow pulled

The main thing is not how, but when. I think on time.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

and no inflation

but where did you get the idea ?!

[Vasily Ponomarev]

I mean high, if they could print, they would not work .... although if you think so, I think I should not waste time

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

I meant high

really a buck generally is practically worthless, from the point of view of economic theories

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Of course, is it worth what you can buy or build on them, like the ruble, or is the ruble also not worth it?

[Barmaleyka]

Do you even know what a commodity filling of money is ?!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

they have wrappers printed and no inflation

There are, if you look at the price of gold, say.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

yes, unless you remember ruble inflation

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

yes, unless you remember ruble inflation

No comment. She is even worse than Rosstat believes.

[Mavrikiy]

The White House was ready to offer Denmark annual payments of $ 600 million for the transfer of Greenland to the United States. This amount was determined based on the annual expenditures of the Danish government for the maintenance of island autonomy.

Freeloaders, and on top give a couple of lards.

At the same time, the period during which these payments were planned was not named, most likely, it meant "unlimited lease".

Even 99 years does not suit the USA.

Earlier, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen called this deal absurd

The American leader, having heard such an answer, canceled his visit to Denmark,

That's right, a businessman must work out an offer that is hard to refuse. It may only turn out to be the 10th fleet with a friendly visit.
Denmark so sang to the tune of the United States for SP-2, and then suddenly.

Meanwhile, the European Union categorically opposed leasing the island to the United States,

Yes, not to pass, but to allow sledding from the hill.

[Thrifty]

Only, trump is not talking about rent, but about foreclosure in the ownership of the United States forever! Then Greenland will be given the status of the state, and, overseas territory of the United States.

[Sergej1972]

Or state or territory. These are different statuses. State status is higher.

[sergo1914]

Having eaten everything around, the rats began to eat each other. So, perhaps, we will live to see the landing in Normandy.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: sergo1914

Having eaten everything around, the rats began to eat each other.

But the Danes tried so hard, so slowed down the SP-2, that they could not even eat. And here you go ...

[Vasily Ponomarev]

slightly late

[parusnik]

In vain ... Denmark does not take the money ... Today, Greenland is autonomous, independent tomorrow, the day the United States and the costs will be less than with the purchase .. Especially since there are American bases .. Rebels will start in the glaciers of Greenland, some Greenland Liberation Front Americans will support ...

[sergo1914]

Quote: parusnik

In vain ... Denmark does not take the money ... Today, Greenland is autonomous, independent tomorrow, the day the United States and the costs will be less than with the purchase .. Especially since there are American bases .. Rebels will start in the glaciers of Greenland, some Greenland Liberation Front Americans will support ...

There is another option. Referendum. Greenland People's Republic. Polite people. The scheme is worked out.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

For the amount they offer, they can only harm themselves. There are only natural riches, many times more will come out, and not counting about access to the Arctic Ocean, and the location of the island is right for military maneuvers.

[gsev]

If Denmark wants to maintain sovereignty over Greenland, it seems that it needs to urgently ask the PRC, DPRK and Russia to place a limited military contingent there.

[Cottodraton]

Scam of the 21st century. Divorce is not even on beads, but on cut paper)

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Cottodraton

and on cut paper)

Cooler. Now it’s just tac toe on a bank server.

[Avior]

I did not understand, why did he need Greenland, and even the whole thing?
Well, let’s rent the land for the base there, but why? What kind of bliss is this?

[Thrifty]

There are resources for many trillions! Plus, Greenland has a natural strategically convenient location for controlling the adjacent water area. ..

[Sky strike fighter]

Greenland, in my opinion, gives Denmark the opportunity to lay claim to the Arctic shelf, where there are a lot of natural resources, the same oil and gas, which can then be used to plant the whole of Europe and manage it.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

yes but mining is expensive

[Avior]

The US economy does not rely on the sale of resources, and these resources are still described with a pitchfork.

[Undecim]

Greenland - this is the basis for Denmark to claim 900 square meters. km Arctic shelf in the Arctic Ocean, since Greenland is part of this shelf.
Last year, China fussed there, proposing to build three international airports. And the United States in 1946 offered Denmark to buy Greenland.

[Avior]

And what, the economic importance of this piece of the Arctic shelf for the United States is so important? Does the economy hold on to this?
And why was Greenland needed in 1946?
If for military purposes, then all of Greenland is not needed.

[Undecim]

And what, the economic importance of this piece of the Arctic shelf for the United States is so important?
Excuse me, Sergei, but are you not interested in international politics at all?

[Avior]

Interested in.
And because of this, I want to understand why Trump suddenly became preoccupied with this idea. The shelf topic did not appear yesterday, it has been spinning for years. The Americans, of course, are not averse to snatching off the shelf, and are trying to achieve this in relation to Alaska, but for them it is not so enormous that, in theory, expressed just a few days ago at such a high level, there would be such a demarche with a refusal to visit . All this looks like a far-fetched pretext.
Negotiations on such issues are not conducted like that.
First, they would semi-officially throw a question, twist it in the press, confidentially express it with some ambassador, collect opinions, and only then raise it out loud.
But Trump actually created a situation in which they were forced to refuse, they simply had no other choice, at least the Greenlanders needed to be asked, and they simply did not have time for this.
Did he achieve this?
Or did he not understand that in Denmark this is not decided by the will of one man?
So I'm interested, what is the reason?

[Undecim]

So far, it’s hard to say something specific. Moreover, Trump is a peculiar person. Time will tell. He also had to go to Poland. It was part of one visit. We will see.

[Errr]

Quote: Avior

I did not understand, why did he need Greenland, and even the whole thing?

Canada is embraced with care.) Encloses her in a continuous circle of "friendly" embrace. Looks far away, however.)))

[Babermetis]

Quote: Avior

I did not understand, why did he need Greenland, and even the whole thing?
Well, let’s rent the land for the base there, but why? What kind of bliss is this?

It is a full member of the Arctic Union.

[Avior]

The USA has Alaska, he is already a full member

[Babermetis]

Quote: Avior

The USA has Alaska, he is already a full member

Canada is included, USA is not. Alaska is in the wrong ocean. On the other side of the mainland, if you will.

[bzbo]

The main thing is to agree in dollars, and then the green paper will become cheaper)))

[demo]

Funny and arrogant Americans.
The volume of fresh water in the form of ice in Greenland is 2,85 million cubic kilometers.
And if all this translate into liquid form?
Not far off is the day when the war for clean natural resources begins.
And the Americans, as was the case with RI earlier, decided to buy for themselves a cap of crackers that could cost trillions in the future.

[Avior]

If the war for clean water begins, and the States consider it worth it, Denmark has zero chance.

[axiles100682]

Kapets Yankee arrogant, such a penny offered more and offended.
It is interesting after such kookies by partners how long will Denmark give the go-ahead for laying SP-2 along the bottom of its sea section?
PS Trump is definitely not our agent?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: axiles100682

how long will Denmark give the go-ahead for laying SP-2 along the bottom of its sea section?

If he suddenly gives, it will be Estonia, not Denmark. Because it is no longer necessary - we moved past, according to the backup version. And Denmark ... As a wonderful example of almost instant karma.

[Popov Konstantin Ivanovich]

Colleagues. It happened before. US Air Force Base "TULE". Everyone and everybody was hanging on it - B-29, B-50, B-47, B - 36, B-52, something anti-submarine, not to mention weather scouts, transport workers and various others. What to change. The USSR used to fight this misfortune not as best it could, but as it wanted. Probably in the plans of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there is a plan to destroy the US military bases along with the no longer inhabited island. I do not think that this whim of Trump is some kind of new, "unknown" threat to all branches of the RF Armed Forces. "We will be for Victory!" as the modeling firm Trumpeter says.

[pafegosoff]

This is in the topic "I am laughing!"

[yehat]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

you probably don’t know what the railway was built for the money received

and you probably don’t know that the cost of building the road was included in the purchase of Alaska and the Americans helped to build a piece of iron, but the royal treasury did not receive money for the sale of Alaska.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

that is, they received money for the road, but not for Alaska, is that so?

[yehat]

Americans supplied rails for a piece of iron and other products, but not money.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

they did not deliver, read better about it yourself

[yehat]

Quote: Vasily Ponomarev

they did not deliver, read better about it yourself

quote from document

For the assignment to the North American States of Russian possessions in North America, 11.362.481 rubles were received from the designated States. 94 kopecks From the number 11.362.481 rubles. 94 kopecks spent abroad on the purchase of accessories for the railways: Kursk-Kiev, Ryazan-Kozlovskaya, Moscow-Ryazan, etc. 10.972.238 rubles. 4 kopecks The rest is 390.243 rubles. 90 kopecks received in cash. ”

cash was received only 390 rubles, the rest - in goods and there are claims to supply prices. Moreover, the owners of the companies where the goods arrived were Russian lobbyists selling Alaska. More questions?

[Avior]

You are misinterpreting the passage.
The Russian side received the money in an account in the United States, the Russian side did not transfer it to Russia, but spent it there in the United States on purchases.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

They bake dollars themselves, so as not to buy.

[Chaldon48]

Does the US want to increase the number of bases or have they found something they don’t want to share with anyone?

[Lord of the Sith]

Let's buy Texas or California? And why, the Yankees can, we can not?))

[Vasily Ponomarev]

it’s possible, only how much money will have to be spent, it’s not Greenland after all, and it’s nice to behave with America

[Vasily Ponomarev]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Quote: Honest Citizen

If the Danes give Greenland, we are waiting for the start of the third world because of the Arctic.

Pyakin: China invested lard in Greenland. There are a lot of resources. With global warming, it will become the Green Earth. Having ZZ-China will become an Arctic power and will require the NSR. Hence the decision - do not give ZZ to China. How? Only through the USA. Here is such a song.

Byakin Pyakin

[Azazelo]

Is Yellowstone boiling .... ???

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Azazelo

Yellowstone boiled .... ???

If it boils, then Greenland will become irrelevant.

[APASUS]

The modern capitalist world is fraught with a lot of hidden opportunities. Even what is not for sale is bought!
It remains now to wait for the United States to doubt the democratic regime of Denmark ????????????

[xax]

600 million dollars

Less than 3 dollars per hectare. Very cheap. It is possible to rent landfills from the continental Europe and take garbage there, otherwise these poor fellows refuse plastic packaging from hopelessness.

[Klingon]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: sergo1914

Translate 600 lyam. Card number **** **** **** ****. And Greenland is yours. I can also advise Madagascar and New Zealand.

And I'm interested in the moon. Is the card number the same? Is the discount valid?

speak the moon? my wife for a birthday bought a very good discount and gave me a plot on Mars 2,5x2,5 km. there is a certificate with the coordinates of the exact location of the private property))
Ps. Unfortunately it is not possible to upload a photo from the phone. Hey admins! fix site optimization for smartphones !!

[Avior]

Turn it on its side, the edge of the button will come out.
Or turn on the PC version

[Klingon]

thanks, I'll try now

[Yaro Polk]

Greenland, this territory should be the property of all mankind, as well as Antarctica, did Greenland become Danish, why did they fight for it with someone?

[Klingon]

Quote: Yaro Polk

Greenland, this territory should be the property of all mankind, as well as Antarctica, did Greenland become Danish, why did they fight for it with someone?

Well, like because the Vikings landed there, hence the name Grønland (green land)

[voyaka uh]

Unlimited rental from Denmark. A billion a year. Plus the amount in cash.
You can hold a referendum there. Approximately 50 thousand people live in Greenland.
Receive American passports and cash gift. The deal is real.

[Vasily Ponomarev]

I don’t think it’s good there anyway, although if it happened it would be nonsense

[Avior]

In Denmark, they have full autonomy with subsidies from the treasury.
Plus, the prospect of independence, if the shelf really learn to earn.
And in the State, it’s written with a pitchfork on water

[voyaka uh]

In the States, they will be an independent state, like Alaska. With his senator, congressmen,
court, etc. And they will also receive subsidies, I think 10 times more than the mean Danes gave.

[yehat]

Quote: Avior

You are misinterpreting the passage.
The Russian side received the money in an account in the United States, the Russian side did not transfer it to Russia, but spent it there in the United States on purchases.

I said the same thing. this does not change the fact that the Russian treasury did not receive payment for a kalyaska

[Avior]

Received, and then spent the money on purchases.
The treasury is not a box under the throne of the king-father.
What you brought is a report on the spending of money received in the treasury for Alaska.
Received and used up later.

[iouris]

Straight, Donald Kalita is a collector of American lands. And the truth is that Denmark for a long time and arrogantly violates the Monroe doctrine, because it itself is not in the other hemisphere. The Russian Federation, by the way, also has such territories.

[yehat]

Quote: Avior

Received, and then spent the money on purchases.

no, stop pulling the owl on the globe!
received - it means she could freely dispose of the funds, but it’s not so!
And virtual money, which has never been, is completely different.
the supply transaction was strongly biased. In addition to a narrow selection of suppliers, prices were also dictated
I'm not talking about the banal cost of transporting materials.
To call THIS the equivalent of replenishing the treasury is somehow strange.
Moreover, I have not yet touched on the topic of transaction value, approximately equal to the annual income from Alaska.
Americans in less than half a year fully recouped their costs.

[Avior]

Of course, I could freely dispose.
The Americans transferred the money, all 7.2 million to the account of the Russian ambassador to the United States.
That way any cashless payment can be called virtual money. All the same, the 19th century, they no longer drove gold in bags for payment, banks and accounts came up.
And Russia could freely dispose of this money, and spend as it sees fit.
As for the sale, this is a purely Russian idea, since 1853 they have been discussing and trying to sell to America, the minimum price has been set at 5 million.
But in the States at that time, there was a Civil War, they were not up to it.
And only in 1867 they offered.
And the US Senate, by the way, agreed to spend the money on the purchase with a big creak - they did not understand why they needed it? Moreover, it was the US Senate who sought to pay in cash in gold, and not into the account.

[Avior]

From your post, you can understand that you believe that the payment for Alaska went to goods, and not money to the account.
If this is so, then you are mistaken - you paid with money, which the Russian side could freely dispose of, as it sees fit.

[yehat]

Quote: Avior

As for the sale, this is a purely domestic idea

Where did you get this ??? For example, the British ambassadors threw this idea to Gorchakov.