Ariete tanks first arrived in Latvia

Canada-led NATO's advanced forward presence combat team stationed in Latvia received reinforcements from Italy and the United States last month. As a result, the number of major combat tanksthat she possesses has doubled. The alliance explains that this is a temporary measure, but in recent years it has become clear that, thanks to the rotation mechanism, only the composition of personnel changes, while maintaining the number of troops and the equipment attached to them.

The Latvian National Armed Forces announced on their website that 70 additional soldiers and 12 tanks M1A2 SEPv2 Abrams of one of the battalions of the 1th US Army Infantry Division arrived in Adazi camp, being sent to participate in the operation "Atlantic Resolve". It is indicated that the American armored unit will stay in the country for about two months,

In addition, the Italian army first deployed Ariete MBT in Latvia. They were first spotted in this Baltic state in early August when they participated in the Reaper Prime exercises. 16 August Alliance officially confirmed their presence. The tanks are listed as part of a group sent by Rome, which includes the 1th regiment of bersaliers (elite highly mobile infantry units, the distinctive mark is cock feathers), 4th armored regiment and other army units.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Oh, and they play out ... Tribalt.
Indeed, the simple truth is, if you deploy NATO troops on your territory, it means that a cross is put on the map on your capital and a mission is entered into several vigorous missile heads.
Today, for sure (God forbid) the capitals will burn in nuclear fire: Riga, Tallinn, Vilnius, Warsaw, Bucharest, Berlin, London.
Why does the same Lavrov not openly say that Russia, in the event of a nuclear conflict with the United States, will destroy the capitals of their allies and major industrial centers.

[Nycomed]

And for what "in plain text"? There, after all, not all patients of neuropsychiatric dispensaries understand everything well.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Nycomed

And for what "in plain text"?

Yes, these diplomatic curtsies are dumbfounded.
High-precision weapons ... low power ... only for military purposes ... You can’t get enough charges.
Try to find these targets! In a threatened period, they will creep.
Blows to the capitals! Right away! To know what they signed up for.
And then the fear is lost.

[Nycomed]

I once visited Riga, a very beautiful city, personally I would not like to see ruins there. I haven’t been to Tallinn, but I would very much like to see that some of my favorite writers worked in this city: Mikhail Iosifovich Veller and Sergei Donatovich Dovlatov, and I associate Vilnius with the work of Efim Evelevich Drabkin (Efraim Sevel). And I would really not like to see atomic "mushrooms" over these cities.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Nycomed

And I would really not like to see atomic "mushrooms" over these cities.

Is there anyone who wants to?
That is, according to Peter, can Americans when they want?
Do you have any doubts that there is more than one "cross" on St. Petersburg?
The POPULATION should clearly understand that those whom they have elected expose the inhabitants of the capitals to nuclear attack. Do not understand. So it is necessary to scare.

[Nycomed]

Or maybe you don't need to "scare" anyone? And the "population" will deal with its rulers on its own and will understand everything without any outside prompts?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Nycomed

Or maybe you don't need to "scare" anyone? And the "population" will deal with its rulers on its own and will understand everything without any outside prompts?

Aha
Right now!
It’s useless to scare politicians! But the people to scare - that’s it. Then the politicians will die down.

[Nycomed]

You know better, obviously.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Nycomed

You know better, obviously.

Your praise makes me proud.

[Same lech]

NATO so close to the borders of Russia that I think the population of eastern Europe were just extras in this matter ...
now we have what we have.
NATO’s shock fist is slowly forming at Russia's borders, weapons are being accumulated under various pretexts ... the corresponding military infrastructure is being built, local Aborigines are brainwashed and other measures are being taken that clearly indicate preparations for war with Russia ... in parallel, the USA withdrew from the INF Treaty and the issue of deployment MD and SD missiles are just a matter of time.
So we must now prepare for the war of the future ... it is so obvious.

[bukhach]

Well, yes, everything is correct, and Italian tanks have already been with us, in the company of German, French and other European ones, everything is on its own.

[Winnie76]

Quote: Nycomed

Or maybe you don't need to "scare" anyone? And the "population" will deal with its rulers on its own and will understand everything without any outside prompts?

Yes Yes. The government is nasty, and the people are quite the opposite. How many of us will be fed by these tales. Friendship of peoples and all that. These tribals still quietly hissed at the visitors from under the driftwood in the USSR. And in Tallinn I was, about 5 years ago. Mummy, sorry to spend BG. But you have to.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Victor_B

That is, according to Peter, can Americans when they want?
Do you have any doubts that there is more than one "cross" on St. Petersburg?

What Americans are going to hammer Peter in the near future? And why Peter, why didn’t you mention other cities? I’m even offended from Vladivostok.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Greenwood

What Americans are going to hammer Peter in the near future? And why Peter, why didn’t you mention other cities? It’s even a shame for me from Vladivostok

Dear!
On combat duty, right now, the Americans have missions in missiles.
I do not know the timing of the launch order (I assume minutes / hours from the president to the "start" button), but those who press the buttons have no idea where they will fly.
And in St. Petersburg and Moscow and Novosibirsk and in my native Vladivostok there are several (sometimes dozens) "crosses", right this very second.

[Same lech]

Petrovich don’t spoil the morning mood ... all day now I’ll think whether I’ll have time to run to the basement.

[Victor_B]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I have time to run to the basement.

When the arsenal was torn, our GO-shnik opened a shelter in the trolleybus park.
And what, one shell pierced the roof in the garage (the corner of Gamarnik and Irtysh).

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Nycomed

I would really not like to see atomic "mushrooms" over these cities.

But the NATO combat aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons, next to Vilnius, Riga, Tallinn, do not bother? I would like to see nuclear mushrooms over St. Petersburg, Pskov, Smolensk, Moscow?
If not, then guaranteeing their absence can only be a real prospect to get a guaranteed answer in full, to the last rat or cockroach, not to mention those id-iots that pull NATO infrastructure to the borders of the Russian Federation.

[Nycomed]

You, some kind of funny one, by golly. Excuse me.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Nycomed

And for what "in plain text"? There, after all, not all patients of neuropsychiatric dispensaries understand everything well.

The Turks, too, always always understood well, but at one point they suddenly began to hint that they could block the Bosphorus for Soviet warships. Then Gromyko (Minister of Foreign Affairs) said that there was one salvo of missiles and there would be another strait. True, Istanbul will not be there then.
And as it took off, the Turks did not stutter about the straits.
Those. abstract knowledge is one thing, and concrete explanation is another.
For example, after specific explanations about who is going to heaven and who is just dying, the Finns decided to join NATO.

[Nycomed]

And you tell another story about Gromyko: when he circled Damascus in an airplane, waiting for dad Assad to deign to accept him. Because the cannibal Hafiz, then negotiated with the State. US Secretary. And Gromyko that, yes, let him fly until the kerosene is over ... Funny?

[Greenwood]

Quote: Victor_B

Why does the same Lavrov not openly say that Russia, in the event of a nuclear conflict with the United States, will destroy the capitals of their allies and major industrial centers.

At least because we are not in a state of war and are not trying to escalate the situation (tea is not the DPRK, to threaten the whole world). There is no need in the current situation to threaten foreigners with war. This will only give foreigners an excuse to once again become convinced of Russia's "aggressive policy" and introduce new sanctions.
And the fact that the Strategic Rocket Forces have coordinates of key western cities and industrial centers from Soviet times is known to any Western politician and commander of the troops.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Greenwood

At least because we are not in a state of war and are not trying to escalate the situation (tea is not the DPRK, to threaten the whole world). There is no need in the current situation to threaten foreigners with war. This will only give foreigners an excuse to once again become convinced of Russia's "aggressive policy" and introduce new sanctions.
And the fact that the Strategic Rocket Forces have coordinates of key western cities and industrial centers from Soviet times is known to any Western politician and commander of the troops.

All right.

There is no need in the current situation to threaten foreigners with war.

We are not talking about the USA. (about the population)
Example - Tribaltica.
On their territory are located tanks and NATO aircraft.
If people mean that in the event of a military confrontation, Russia will move tanks and occupy, then they are erroneously mistaken. There will be no time for this. Therefore, simply destroying the infrastructure and you can not look back there.
An example is Switzerland, the fragments of Yugoslavia, Greece, Denmark ...
If there are no American bases, why spend on them warheads?

[Dietmar]

Cock feathers are so European ...
And will they be allocated a cockerel in the barracks?

[Avior]

Will there be a parade of bersaliers?

[Jager]

The last on the "parade", as I understand it, were the armored forces of the united tribaltic?

[Avior]

No, cycling, created by the Berseliers back in the 19th century

[Jager]

That was the irony.

[Ascetic]

If I'm not mistaken, this is an Italian MBT, an unsuccessful clone of the German Leopard-2, he is already more than thirty years old, for a tank biathlon with our T-72B3, for comparison, and everything will become clear as daylight. Fiat 12 cylinders, 120 Otto Melara cannon, panoramic gyroscopic sight with a laser rangefinder is quite a "competitor".

[Nycomed]

But, some kind of "black hole", we do not really know anything about this tank, but we would like to. Ay, heading "Armament", enlighten us, Dear!

[Talgat I.]

Do not underestimate the car! Even the clone of Leopard-2 will perfectly deal with three t-72B3, especially since the last peer of Leoapard-1, although modernized.

[hohol95]

topwar.ru
Main battle tanks (part of 12) - С1 "Ariente", Italy
July 22, 2011

[Nycomed]

Oto Melara is a good brand.

[Jager]

Interestingly, what can Italians create from BTT now?

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Victor_B

Oh, and they play out ... Tribalt.
Indeed, the simple truth is, if you deploy NATO troops on your territory, it means that a cross is put on the map on your capital and a mission is entered into several vigorous missile heads.
Today, for sure (God forbid) the capitals will burn in nuclear fire: Riga, Tallinn, Vilnius, Warsaw, Bucharest, Berlin, London.
Why does the same Lavrov not openly say that Russia, in the event of a nuclear conflict with the United States, will destroy the capitals of their allies and major industrial centers.

But Shoigu speaks about this. This is closer to him. By subjectivity and subordination of the problem.

[ProkletyiPirat]

That is how tankers like to arrange "comfortable" training grounds for their equipment, and then, in practice, burned tanks
ps Oh, I smell it now

[Fedorov]

Why minus adequate? But in practice, the stupidity of using tanks in Grozny
showed in Chechnya. I would put someone for it. But no, all the generals are in chocolate.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Not so long ago I read an interesting statement voicing the following opinion

1) MBT can not be used in the city (bearded man with RPG \ ATGM will come out of the window \ basement \ ruins \ ... and the khan of the tank)
2) MBT can not be used in the forest \ jungle (infantry with RPG \ ATGM will come out from the bushes \ ravines \ ... and the khan tank)
3) MBT can not be used in the desert / steppe, (it is far visible it is an ideal target for a helicopter with anti-tank systems, and / or helicopters with DRG)
4) MBT can not be used against entrenched infantry and its fortifications (again, RPG \ ATGM \ PTR \ external support \ ...)
actually the question is where to use MBT?

And in this wording, I’m fighting and fighting, and I just can’t find at least one place where I can’t do without MBT, everywhere there is something that is better now or something that is worse, but it’s permissible to change tactics.

[Winnie76]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

And so in this wording, I’m struggling, and I’m fighting, and I can’t find at least one place where I can’t do without MBT

On the deck of UDC

[ProkletyiPirat]

And besides sarcasm, do you have anything to object to?

[Winnie76]

Nevertheless, tanks are used in all the cases you have listed. For some reason. Probably these problems are more or less solvable.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Hmmm, the fact of the matter is that with the development of infantry vehicles, helicopter fleets (transport / strike) and reconnaissance and target designation systems, tanks have ceased to be "used", but they are present on the battlefield, but they go somewhere and shoot somewhere, only there is no sense in this, because they do not give an advantage to the army that uses them. Of course, you can find some exceptions, but these exceptions only confirm what was announced earlier.

[rotmistr60]

70 additional soldiers and 12 M1A2 SEPv2 Abrams tanks ... the unit will stay in the country for about two months,

And the tanks will obviously remain? So, slowly, little by little, NATO is strengthening its grouping in the Baltic states. Even Italians decided to wave their feathers along the borders with Russia.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: rotmistr60

Even the Italians decided to wave their feathers along the borders with Russia.

This is not "flapping your wings", this is mastering the theater of possible combat operations. And a large number of troops and equipment is not required for this.

[APASUS]

It seems that NATO from the Baltic side is going to attack, not defend itself, which is spoken about all over the world here. Tanks are offensive weapons

[EXPrompt]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Greenwood

What Americans are going to hammer Peter in the near future? And why Peter, why didn’t you mention other cities? It’s even a shame for me from Vladivostok

Dear!
On combat duty, right now, the Americans have missions in missiles.
I do not know the timing of the launch order (I assume minutes / hours from the president to the "start" button), but those who press the buttons have no idea where they will fly.
And in St. Petersburg and Moscow and Novosibirsk and in my native Vladivostok there are several (sometimes dozens) "crosses", right this very second.

Here are just dozens.
They need dozens of rockets to bring us warmth and light. They have the most powerful 475ct head.
In addition, the states lost production of warheads and enrichment of uranium.
On an old rocket, Satan is now disarming, the most powerful head is 27mt. or 10x1mt.
Sarmatia already has a maximum head of 50mt.
There, one hit in New York is enough with a margin.

By the way, c400 already in the exercises, your tof, shot down ballistic missiles.

[ioan-e]

Well, and Valentina Pikulya in "Barbarossa" (aka "Square of the Fallen Fighters") about 72 nails in each boot of the Italian soldier is described and what it led to! Did you get infected with rake rakes at the Euro-breeds?

[Hort]

1st regiment of bersaliers (elite highly mobile infantry units, the distinctive mark is cock feathers)

Near Voronezh, they seemed to be buried in the ground with the Magyars and the Wehrmacht in the Great Patriotic War

[Fantazer911]

By gradually building up the technique on a "racial" basis, the States flirting, carving a spark of tension, playing with matches, mattress toppers can unleash a small conflict on a planetary scale