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Media: The explosion at the Nyonoks training ground is not associated with the test of the rocket "Petrel"

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The explosion at a training ground in the Arkhangelsk region, which led to the death of five Rosatom employees, has nothing to do with the tests of the Burevestnik missile, as previously claimed by US intelligence. This is reported "News" with reference to a source in the Russian Defense Ministry and two sources in the defense industry.


Media: The explosion at the Nyonoks training ground is not associated with the test of the rocket "Petrel"


According to the publication, an emergency at a training ground in the Arkhangelsk region occurred during the testing of a promising accelerator - a new liquid-propellant propulsion system with fundamentally new isotopic power sources, also called "nuclear batteries", and not the Burevestnik missile. It is indicated that the installation was delivered to the landfill for the first time, these were the first landfill tests. The characteristics and purpose of the accelerator are not disclosed due to the secrecy of the work.

According to some experts, the so-called "nuclear batteries" are a further development of radionuclide thermoelectric generators (RTGs), developed and used in the days of the Soviet Union. They were created at the Russian Federal Nuclear Center "All-Russian Research Institute of Experimental Physics", located in Sarov. The scientific center is also involved in the development of small-sized energy sources using radioactive materials.

Rosatom reported that the causes of the explosion have not yet been determined; a special commission is engaged in their establishment. Despite the failure, the tests will continue.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 15 August 2019 10: 48
    +5
    new liquid jet propulsion system, with fundamentally new isotopic power sources, also called "nuclear batteries"
    feel This engine will last forever if I plug in the batteries (song, inspired),
    1. himRa
      himRa 15 August 2019 10: 57
      -4
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      new liquid jet propulsion system, with fundamentally new isotopic power sources, also called "nuclear batteries"
      feel This engine will last forever if I plug in the batteries (song, inspired),

      eternal is good !!! also remembered about the song-devices which we will tell you about!
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 15 August 2019 11: 08
        +1
        It is simply "more pleasant" or "more convenient" for Americans to think. They had no idea what they were experiencing.
        1. himRa
          himRa 15 August 2019 11: 13
          0
          Quote: maxim947
          It is simply "more pleasant" or "more convenient" for Americans to think. They had no idea what they were experiencing.

          what do you think so friend?
          ,, exceptional ,, must know what is happening on planet Earth!
          well ... or ... pretend they know laughing
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 15 August 2019 11: 34
          +1
          Quote: maxim947
          It is simply "more pleasant" or "more convenient" for Americans to think. They had no idea what they were experiencing.

          Not to the Americans, but to the helmsmen of them, who are plucking this idea into the weak brains of the average man in the USA.
        3. Cube123
          Cube123 15 August 2019 11: 41
          +1
          Quote: maxim947
          It is simply "more pleasant" or "more convenient" for Americans to think. They had no idea what they were experiencing.

          Yes, they do not need to think. This is a simple technology. If you want to know something secret - express aloud any nonsense in the media. Let the opposite side prove that this is not so, suddenly there is a narrow-minded one who will let it slip. wink
        4. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 15 August 2019 11: 51
          -1
          But, for the USA, the version with "Petrel" has now disappeared, you can drip in a different direction.
    2. Galleon
      Galleon 15 August 2019 11: 11
      +7
      When I found out about this tragedy, I remembered another song, Vizbor ...
      "We are being taken to the medical battalion, two almost crippled,
      Fulfilling the order is not entirely careful.
      I hope to stretch a couple of years
      If this, of course, is possible in nature ... "
      1. himRa
        himRa 15 August 2019 11: 23
        +2
        Fulfilling the order is not entirely careful.

        You are right, my song is out of place, the event is tragic and sad!
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 15 August 2019 12: 22
          +1
          Sorry, if you heard a rebuke in my remark (it wasn’t there!), I really remembered Vizbor then, but the song theme was mentioned only now. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcAV8al1Pbg]
  2. Nycomed
    Nycomed 15 August 2019 10: 49
    +2
    What really happened there, we, if we find out, very soon.
    1. Vasily Ponomarev
      Vasily Ponomarev 15 August 2019 11: 07
      -5
      I don’t remember, found out about pd50?
      1. ver_
        ver_ 15 August 2019 11: 57
        +2
        ..yes - he drowned ..
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 August 2019 10: 58
    0
    What a blow to the image of American intelligence and the Russian "liberal-democratic" public, which has already lost its voice shouting about radioactive contamination, the failure of new weapons, etc., etc. Trump himself, with a smart face, declared that "we know ... this is very bad." We also know a lot about American weapons ...
    1. RideMaster
      RideMaster 15 August 2019 11: 28
      -3
      No punch. In the world, no one will read or recognize this. Yes, and in Russia, 80 percent will remain in the first news and according to the amers. We need to speak at the moment of hype, and not later, when everyone has already gained the necessary liberals and amers opinions
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 16 August 2019 05: 59
        -1
        Quote: RideMaster
        You need to speak at the moment of hype,

        "At the moment of the hype" it is necessary to open cases and conduct investigative hyipists.
        Quote: RideMaster
        and not later, when everyone has already gained the necessary liberals and amers opinion

        And why? Just gently plant ALL HYPING. For nefig. The rest is in the order of access to the state secret.
        Now in the North very rammers are needed. Here you have the job. And do not yell at all byak.

        By the way, the same Carnegie who published humorous books "How Not to Do It" (as well as "Murphy's Laws", "Peter's Principle") in the late 60s, and not invented in the 90s, did just that. By the way, he eliminated the hypers physically. Those were the days of the "night tigers", if you don't know. And night tigers were in both the Americas, and not just in Brazil, where they were spotted with the destruction of 100 thousand homeless people in one night.
  4. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 15 August 2019 11: 05
    -10
    Assault parsing.
    Versions of the use of radioactive substances in a rocket.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 August 2019 11: 31
      +8
      Bastard parsing. I agree. a real asshole. Scum gathered and sucked out of the finger "opinion"
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 16 August 2019 06: 01
      0
      Quote: GRIGORIY76
      Bastard

      Pissed.
  5. Olgovich
    Olgovich 15 August 2019 11: 06
    +1
    Despite the failure, the trials will be continued.

    But this is correct.

    Only observe TB!
  6. Valerik1337
    Valerik1337 15 August 2019 11: 06
    -5
    Another failure of American intelligence. Once again I am convinced that the Americans are very stupid people, I just can’t understand how they became the first in the economy with such chicken brains, probably just lucky
    1. Teacher67
      Teacher67 15 August 2019 11: 11
      +1
      And what is the failure? Well, the engine for the rocket exploded, and not the rocket itself, what does it change?
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 15 August 2019 11: 59
        -1
        Not everyone is able to think so deeply ..)) It's easier to declare the failure of the Americans ..
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 15 August 2019 11: 27
      0
      Quote: Valerik1337
      . Once again I am convinced that the Americans are very stupid people, I just can’t understand how they became the first in the economy with such chicken brains, probably just lucky

      Fools are always lucky, yeah catch a goldfish laughing And grief from the minds of others, yeah give no peace to the hands laughing
    3. RideMaster
      RideMaster 15 August 2019 11: 29
      -8
      There is no failure. Stupid is us living on the male line of behavior, they live on the female and are always right. So it goes.
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 August 2019 19: 52
      -2
      Quote: Valerik1337
      Americans are very stupid people, I just can’t understand how they became the first in the economy with such chicken brains,

      It's very simple: they are run by JEWS of local bottling. And the second - this is the result of WWII and profits from bloody military supplies ... Then they benefited everyone with "dollars" ... So they are making money, worms of the Amsk!
      AHA.
  7. newcomer
    newcomer 15 August 2019 11: 06
    +2
    I agree with Kiriyenko that the latest developments are complex things, as you don’t calculate the options in theory, in practice failure may turn out.
    condolences to the relatives of the dead scientists and the speedy recovery of the victims.
    Well, trumps and their intelligence can go through the woods.
  8. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 15 August 2019 11: 15
    -1
    From fresh today
    The explosion in the Earth’s orbit of the third stage of the European rocket Ariane 4 was recorded by the US Air Force space control service.

    According to the 18th squadron of control of outer space of the US Air Force, the stage of the Ariane 4 rocket exploded in orbit on July 22 at about 12.17 Moscow time, reports RIA Novosti. In total, seven fragments were discovered, while the step did not explode due to a collision with another object.

    Before the destruction, the step was in orbit with a minimum altitude of 1 thousand 404 kilometers and a maximum of 1 thousand 296 kilometers.
    1. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 15 August 2019 11: 24
      +1
      https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3178798
      I’m reading it too and I can’t catch up with something. Quote from the source
      The third stage of the rocket has been in orbit of the Earth since 1992 after it launched three satellites there: US-French Topex / Poseidon, South Korean Kitsat-1 and French S80 / T, RIA Novosti reported.

      Is that so? What has the third step in orbit done since 1992? As far as I know, the third stage is responsible for bringing the payload to a given orbit. Then it remains on it. The explosion, I believe, occurred during her work. Then what year 1992 are we talking about ?! request
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 15 August 2019 11: 26
        0
        Quote: Nikolay87
        https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3178798
        I’m reading it too and I can’t catch up with something. Quote from the source
        The third stage of the rocket has been in orbit of the Earth since 1992 after it launched three satellites there: US-French Topex / Poseidon, South Korean Kitsat-1 and French S80 / T, RIA Novosti reported.

        Is that so? What has the third step in orbit done since 1992? As far as I know, the third stage is responsible for bringing the payload to a given orbit. Then it remains on it. The explosion, I believe, occurred during her work. Then what year 1992 are we talking about ?! request

        Not a question for me. As it was written, it was copied.
      2. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 15 August 2019 13: 25
        0
        Quote: Nikolay87
        The explosion, I believe, occurred during her work. Then what year 1992 are we talking about ?!


        So it is written there that in 1992 this third stage launched 3 satellites, since then (it turns out like this) it has been hanging in orbit there and only recently exploded.

        PS Perhaps there was a self-explosion
    2. RideMaster
      RideMaster 15 August 2019 11: 31
      -2
      How fresh if the 22nd exploded?
      Dtsmayu is unlikely to raise a howl that they don’t tell people, they hide the truth from the people)
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 15 August 2019 11: 32
        -1
        Quote: RideMaster
        How fresh if the 22nd exploded?
        Dtsmayu is unlikely to raise a howl that they don’t tell people, they hide the truth from the people)

        Yeah. And reported today. It happens...
  9. Elysium
    Elysium 15 August 2019 11: 26
    +2
    "Democracy knights" and others like them, give only a reason to bark, even on deaths.
  10. ddmitrij
    ddmitrij 15 August 2019 11: 44
    -2
    Yes, this is just ridiculous.
    what U.S. intelligence previously claimed

    Lately, American intelligence has not claimed. From intelligence, they slipped into some kind of analytical center, ready to write whatever the Master wants. Objectivity and the true state of affairs clearly became their last place for them.
    Therefore, I perceive all the statements of their intelligence as an absurd joke.
  11. Roman070280
    Roman070280 15 August 2019 11: 57
    -5
    happened during tests .... also called "nuclear batteries", not the "Petrel" missile.

    And the "batteries" are supposedly not for the Petrel .. Well, well ..
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 16 August 2019 06: 15
      -1
      Li-Ion CR tablets are also "nuclear batteries". And what?
      About cell remind?
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 16 August 2019 10: 57
        -1
        That's it - and cho ??
        Are you on a cell or something that these nuclear batteries were developed there ??
        How many people here like to pretend to be fools .. Everyone knows and understands what these "batteries" are for there ..
        But no .. we're talking about Petrels and Poseidons can only thoughtlessly fool around in other articles, and as soon as something unpleasant pops up - we immediately forget about them, and begin to invent cell phones ..
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 17 August 2019 17: 13
          +1
          Quote: Roman070280
          Everyone knows and understands what these "batteries" are for there ..
          But no .. we're talking about Petrels and Poseidons can only thoughtlessly flick

          I thought for a long time. But he thought badly. If there is a battery drive, then this is a turbojet drive. So what's the sadness?
          Oh yes, I live in a high radiation zone. Actually, this is a failed deposit, only no one still knows how to separate the salts. So your assumptions are incomprehensible to me.
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 19 August 2019 08: 54
            -4
            I thought for a long time .. and badly .. But still, for some reason, I wrote another mess!
            I don’t have any sadness .. your question is absurd .. and thoughts are incoherent .. Apparently, because of radiation ..
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 21 August 2019 13: 19
              0
              Quote: Roman070280
              I have no sadness .. your question is absurd .. and thoughts are incoherent.

              That is, there is nothing to say on the topic.
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 21 August 2019 15: 05
                -3
                That's right .. on the topic of sadness, your implications, the fact that you live in an area of ​​increased radiation, and how to separate the salts, I have nothing to say ..
                And on the topic of "Petrel" and the "batteries" that exploded for him, I have already said everything above ..
  12. Old26
    Old26 15 August 2019 12: 59
    +4
    Quote: Nycomed
    What really happened there, we, if we find out, very soon.

    Of course! There will be a dozen more two official versions that reject the previous ones. Moreover, the voicers did not even bother to have logic in their statements ...
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    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 15 August 2019 17: 38
      -3
      Did you hold a candle? Or were they sitting in the bushes? Or are they involved in the development? The product, unlike the Petrel, which has passed flight tests for a long time, is completely new and has nothing to do with NRE. Do not carry nonsense.
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        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 16 August 2019 08: 30
          -2
          I then work in this industry and own a situation. At the expense of you, I doubt very much with such a deep knowledge in nuclear physics.
    2. bayard
      bayard 15 August 2019 18: 34
      0
      What kind of persistence, Vladislav? By the nature of the radioactive burst (short-term), this isotope is just from the "nuclear battery". Which was tested on a new rocket. Or a new rocket modification. Marine. Able to carry an autonomous database for a long time. That's what the "battery" is for.
      And there is so much noise from the USA and their friends in the media, because I really want to know what it was on. But this is definitely not "Petrel". And not "Zircon". And the Americans know this.
    3. sogdy
      sogdy 16 August 2019 06: 21
      -2
      Quote: X35
      In fact, a nuclear rocket engine (NRE) exploded on an experimental rocket.

      Does this happen?
      A "non-kerosene-oxygen" engine was submitted for testing.
      And NREs were last tested in the early 60s. Very very detailed results are described by the Strugatsky. And now there is a legislative ban on production and testing. Vashcheta in science fiction NRE called photon.
      So let me doubt your erudition.
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  15. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 15 August 2019 19: 44
    +3
    "Rosatom reported that the causes of the explosion have not yet been determined, a special commission is engaged in establishing them. Despite the failure, the tests will continue."
    Of course they will continue. Where to go. Tests, in general, is the case. "Dumb" and troublesome. For no one really knows how the tested object will behave. Theory, then the theory, but in practice a lot of unexpected surprises come out. Which are simply not realistic to calculate on paper.
    Now we are also engaged in tests (on the ship side). And I must say, things are not going exactly as our gentlemen had planned. To put it mildly. True, as long as you manage to do without victims.
  16. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A 15 August 2019 21: 24
    +1
    The explosion at the test site in the Arkhangelsk region, which led to the death of five Rosatom employees, has nothing to do with the tests of the Burevestnik missile, as previously stated by American intelligence. This is reported by Izvestia with reference to a source in the RF Ministry of Defense and two sources in the defense industry complex.

    As the newspaper writes, an emergency at the test site in the Arkhangelsk region occurred during testing of a promising accelerator - a new liquid-propellant rocket engine with fundamentally new isotope power sources, also called "nuclear batteries", and not the Burevestnik rocket. It is indicated that the installation was delivered to the landfill for the first time, these were the first field tests.


    They lie like Trotsky ...

    First of all.
    No one will ever conduct the first, albeit proving ground tests of a propulsion system - on a floating platform ...
    But it was on a floating platform that work was carried out and an explosion occurred.
    Accordingly, this is neither a petrel nor this crap.

    I believe that some conspiracy theorists really guessed about the real culprit of the two disasters.
    The Losharik disaster and this disaster are linked by one culprit - Poseidon, aka Status-6 ...

    It was he who got out of control. The control system of this device received a malfunction and the device during the tests became uncontrollable.
    It was trying to somehow work with the uncontrollable "Poseidon" - was damaged and eventually suffered a catastrophe "Losharik".
    I think that Poseidon itself received not only external damage, but possibly internal damage.

    Then, when Poseidon was "caught", they raised him to the surface of the water on this very platform.
    And a very limited contingent was landed on the platform for him - only 8 people.
    For they understood that the Poseidon's security system (anti-handling / access restriction, etc.) was made quite well.
    after all, they were afraid that the enemy would certainly try to "grab" him for experiments. And the fact that the enemy is very clever - I think no one doubts.
    It then (security system) and worked when trying to open Poseidon.
    And such an option was initially allowed - for it was not just that all the work was carried out at sea offshore.
    And the distance was great - it’s not just that 5 people searched for the bodies for almost 24 hours.
    Be it on the beach. or on the pier - half an hour would be needed.

    Here is how such a layout is formed ...
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 16 August 2019 06: 34
      -3
      Quote: SovAr238A
      The Losharik crashed.

      Sorry, but "Losharik" is series 10, and the battery (chemical!) Died on series 31.
      From an ion battery, either everyone would die, or no one. Moreover, the second option is more than 99,999%.
      So you read not those manuals. Designed for full suckers. Are you a sucker?
  17. _TANKIST_
    _TANKIST_ 15 August 2019 21: 44
    -3
    Such nonsense, they write ((((ugh, and people ride around in their ears, IT WASN’T ANY TEST, IT WASN’T HAPPENED. Just some people eliminated the shoals of those who were swooping in front of them, and died at the same time, WITH THE FIRES AND THERE WERE NOT SMELL.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 16 August 2019 06: 35
      -3
      Quote: _TANKIST_
      eliminated the jambs of those who swam in front of them

      Yes, there were such reservations.