Lviv armored plant has launched a serial modernization of the T-64

Lviv armored plant has launched a serial modernization tanks T-64. This was reported by the company "Ukroboronprom", which includes the plant.

In Lviv, an armored plant launched the modernization of T-64 tanks. In the framework of the project, the machines are equipped with thermal imagers, digital radio stations, satellite navigation aids and new dynamic protection.

The message emphasizes that for the first time this modification was presented to the public in 2017. At the same time, according to Ukroboronprom, the tank proved to be in NATO tank competitions The Strong Europe Tank Challenge. Also last year, the tank was shown at the parade on the occasion of Independence Day of Ukraine.

The modernization includes the installation of a new aiming system for the gunner with a thermal imager, which, according to the company, “ensures the detection, recognition and destruction of the enemy by the fire of the 125-mm gun at any time and in any weather conditions”.

In addition to the gunner, other crew members should receive new night-vision devices with a third-generation electron-optical converter. It is claimed that the equipment has high resistance to light noise and is not sensitive to illumination even when using special interference in the infrared range.

New dynamic protection, NVD and communication systems

NVDs are installed on standard mounts and connected to the tank’s electrical network without any changes. This should significantly reduce the time and cost of integrating devices into combat vehicle systems.

Among other things, a promising dynamic defense is installed on the tank, which, according to the developers, “significantly enhances the level of defense of the combat vehicle and effectively counteracts all modern anti-tank weapons: cumulative and armor-piercing, as well as shock-cumulative ammunition of the“ strike core ”type.

The new modification of the T-64 is also equipped with a satellite navigation system from Orizon-Navigation Corporation. The complex allows the on-line exchange of encrypted data. According to the terms of reference, information from each machine should go to the command of all levels, from the platoon commander to the leadership of the entire combat operation.

The tanks are also equipped with the new Lybid K-2RB digital radio stations, which should provide communications that are protected from interference and interception at distances up to 70 kilometers.

Earlier, modernization of T-64 tanks of this type was carried out only by the Kharkov Armored Plant: according to Ukroboronprom data, the enterprise sent more than one and a half hundred vehicles of this type to the APU. It is assumed that due to the capacities of the Lviv armored plant, the process of re-equipping the Armed Forces of Ukraine with new modernized tanks will have to go faster.

Ukroboronprom emphasizes that the capacities of these two tank enterprises allow, with a stable order and funding from the customer, to modernize all T-64 available in the Armed Forces.

Comments

[Gray brother]

It remains to find a penny.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

They will find pennies. The T-64 of the 2017 model is an analogue of the T-72b3. The main upgrade that Bulat lacked was a new sight with a thermal imager for the gunner - the target detection range was increased to 5 km (it was 800 m), and the recognition range was up to 4 km (it was 400 m). Moreover, in any weather and time of day, and not like the old one only during the day. The tanks are equipped with the "Shield" modified with the experience of its use in Donbass, the "Knife" from Bulatov and Oplotov. The T-64 of the 2017 model, in contrast to the T-72B3, has a closed machine-gun mount. Tanks are being modernized in Kharkov in three shifts, about 100 tanks have already been modernized. They have reserves. In 1985, they adopted a modification of the T-64BV, in 1987 they made new 600 pieces. T-64BV itself was originally (since the collapse of the USSR) the main and most numerous tank of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Which is not surprising, it was designed and built in Kharkov and after the withdrawal of troops from the GDR, many tanks were left in Ukraine.

By the beginning of 1989, the group (troops in the German Democratic Republic) included 5 armies, uniting 11 tank and 8 motorized infantry formations, not counting individual units (the predominant type of tanks is indicated in brackets).
Panzer divisions, staffing by 328 tanks:
7 Guards (T-64); 10 Guards (T-80); 11 Guards (T-80); 12 Guards (T-64); 25 (T-64); 32 Guards (T-64); 47 Guards (T-64); 79 Guards (T-80).
Panzer divisions, staffing by 250 tanks:
9 (T-80); 16 Guards (T-80); 90 Guards (T-80). Motorized rifle divisions, staffing by 214 tanks:
20 Guards (T-80); 21 (T-80); 27 Guards (T-80); 35 (T-80); 39 Guards (T-80); 57 Guards (T-64); 94 Guards (T-64); 207 (T-80).

http://otvaga2004.ru/tanki/v-stroyu/razvertyvanie-v-gsvgzgv/

[Sergei 777]

It is strange that there was no T-72 in the GSVG.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sergey 777

It is strange that there was no T-72 in the GSVG.

Always surprised too. I think this is the case: 64 appeared before everyone else and immediately went to the Group; while they were going to change to 72, 80 appeared and they began to replace 64. IMHO, of course. But the GSVG has always been armed with the latest technology.

[d1975]

I didn’t understand only one thing, they always say on the channel that the t-64 tank served only in the Union, now servicemen write that in the GDR, where is the truth?

[Hiller]

GSVGiz personal experience. 3 Shock Army Headquarters Magdeburg 47gvd TD: 153tp, 26tp, 197tp, 245msp, T-64 tanks. 10TD also T 64. TNA-72 were in the NNA GDR.

[d1975]

Thanks for the answer .

[abc_alex]

Well, the tank was considered the best of all at the time of release and it was placed in the Western World War. It was believed that he would provide superiority on the battlefield and it was planned to rearm the entire PGW. But!
The shoals of design and production, as well as the clinical inability of Kharkov to ensure the release of the machine in the required quantity, forced the military plans to be revised. First, they decided to supplement the T-80 fleet, it was still considered "based on the T-64", and then they plugged the T-64 into the Union. But since nothing is done instantly, the decisions may have been far ahead of reality. And it turned out that on paper the T-64 was only in the Union, but in fact it served in the Western Group of Forces.

[svp67]

Quote: Sergey 777

It is strange that there was no T-72 in the GSVG.

But there were plenty of them in the TGV and among the allies.

[tarabar]

It seems like the T-72 was initially considered as a more simplified production modification of the tank for the mobile reserve, therefore they were placed in the second echelon and the production was deployed deep in the rear. And in the GSVG all the best at that time: the breakthrough tank - the T-80 and the most advanced of the then available - the T-64.

[svp67]

Quote from tarabar

It seems like the T-72 was initially considered as a more simplified production modification of the tank for the mobile reserve, therefore they were located in the second echelon and the production was deployed deep in the rear.

And yet. GSVG (ZGV) (GDR) - T-80, T-64. SGV (NDP) -T-80, TsGV (Czechoslovakia) - T-72, SGV (VNR) - T-80, T-64. Carpathian Military District - T-72, Kiev Military District - T-64, T-80, Odessa Military District - T-64, Belarusian Military District - T-72

[Doliva63]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Sergey 777

It is strange that there was no T-72 in the GSVG.

But there were plenty of them in the TGV and among the allies.

And UGV, it seems, was all on 64.

[svp67]

Quote: Doliva63

And UGV, it seems, was all on 64.

Yes, I made a mistake.

[113262a]

Were. At Fritz!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Pennies will find

This is all of course good. But after so many years, metal fatigue must have accumulated.
Well, they’ll deliver new electronics, but the iron will remain old

[113262a]

All the equipment was mainly in storage, where did the fatigue come from?

[tracer]

Not good news. Partners will inevitably push Rogulestan to war with Russia. And the more time they give, the more difficult it is to break them.

[fsps]

Quote: tracer

Not good news. Partners will inevitably push Rogulestan to war with Russia. And the more time they give, the more difficult it is to break them.

There is another nuance. To get started: https://numach.livejournal.com/1291024.html
And more: https://3mv.ru/116512-u-granic-belarusi-polsha-formiruet-diviziyu-sposobnuyu-voevat-v-mirnoe-vremya.html
That is, Poland (and smaller jackals) are getting ready. And the apparent idiocy of Ukraine’s policy from the point of view of Poland is surprisingly reasonable and logical. It is assumed that Russia is gouging, and these will come running.

[self-propelled]

Quote: fsps

It is assumed that Russia is gouging, and these will come running.

if Russia is gougingthen these they definitely won’t come running

[tracer]

Nina is always on the run. She is not mistaken.

[self-propelled]

well, so then she and Nina

[Gray brother]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

increased to 5 km (it was 800 m), and the recognition range to 4 km (it was 400 m).

At night.
There is only one point - on the European theater of operations, the average line-of-sight range is 1800 meters, i.e. maybe in some locality more, in some less, but the average is just that.
Kilometers look cool of course, but they do not rule everywhere.

And in any weather

Actually no, this is a fallacy.

[113262a]

Did you shoot our nightlight? Without the moonlight and at 800 meters, even your eyes are gouged out! And already after exposure to a flash of an explosion, the screen rests for five seconds! The mechanic has the same garbage! I’m silent about the CT scan! At least during the day, at least at night, to the waist from the hatch, if you please!

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

And already after exposure to a flash of an explosion, the screen rests for five seconds!

And the thermal imager catches the light.

[113262a]

Do not catch! If not Chinese. The computer builds the picture, sensitivity thresholds are configured. It can be set separately only on warm-blooded, it is possible-on equipment, it is possible on the flash of a shot. And in combination.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

Do not catch!

I don’t know what they have there, but I saw how it works on the video. Strong radiation illuminates the weak, plus smoke is hot - no computer will help.

[113262a]

I repeat, a good thermal imager is a trouble for those who do not have it!

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

I repeat, a good thermal imager

Is it good there?

[113262a]

If the one on the stronghold is good! French.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

If the one on the stronghold is good!

If they modernize tanks in the same way as "Oplots" are preparing for European competitions, it will not help them.

[113262a]

The study of trophies four years ago suggests the opposite! Materiel is more than decent! Cars are abandoned due to the stupidity of the crews. But Ukrainians have been studying for 4 years, sparing no money and diesel fuel! They shot only at the training grounds, 100-120 full-time. We have only in the DPR. There tank theme is a priority!

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

Materiel is more than decent!

Engines do not, all garbage cans are raked. The guns don’t do either.

Quote: 113262

But Ukrainians have been studying for 4 years, sparing no money and diesel fuel!

And the resource from this is not added.

Quote: 113262

They shot only at the training grounds, 100-120 full-time.

Y-ss, about the guns I wrote above.

And they still want to modernize the entire park - they bought checkers, but did not buy a ride.

[113262a]

I wrote about the guns, the Poles drove this good. Further, although their trunks are worse, the shooting of HEs and cumulative ones is completely digested. So for practical shooting, blacks are very suitable. The main thing is not to forget to adjust the flag on the command console for barrel wear. Polish and Soviet barrels for the d-81 withstand up to 100 shots by sub-caliber. And repair kits for motors did and are doing! Avramat-polarsni and rings, formally Russian Konotop-shells. Malysheva sculpts the rest himself.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

I wrote about the guns, the Poles drove this good.

It is doubtful that they have been using their twards for a long time and there are few of them - it makes no sense to keep production unprofitable, they themselves will rather buy in Ukraine.

Quote: 113262

. And repair kits for motors did and are doing!

Can this moment be more detailed - who does it and where? What exactly are they doing? I have strong doubts that they will be able to upload normal details to the opposition player on old equipment.
So far, only all the sedimentation tanks have uncannyled - they are empty.
In the USSR, they began to part with the T-64 precisely because the engine resembles a cuckoo clock in complexity - that is why the T-72 was born.

[113262a]

CPGs did and do themselves. Kharkov and Konotop (incidentally, it belongs to the Kostroma Motor Parts) Crankshafts were forged by Kramatorsk and Lozovaya, casting itself Malysheva and Chuguev.

[113262a]

The motor itself is nowhere easier! There are 30 percent less details than in D-12 (B-54, etc.). A painful question is the fuel injection pump, but we solve it by Czechs and ... Belarusians.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

The motor itself is nowhere easier!

Simple boxer engines do not exist. It's not about the device, but about fitting the parts.

[113262a]

He is not opaque nirazu! This is Yumo-550, with the oncoming movement of the pistons and two crankshafts. The main shaft controls the overlap of the intake windows, optional exhaust. There are no valves. Camshaft, too. Six cylinders, 12 pistons and connecting rods. The engine is light and powerful. But because of the goat cooling system (no fan), it is very gentle to overheating. And scary because of her, same crackling! Because like an injector! In the sense, the exhaust drags the air from the radiator.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

with counter piston movement

This is called a boxer engine, and when it's done badly, "applause" starts there.
What you described above did not pull the whole USSR, the whole country worked for this tank — the entire Soviet military-industrial complex.

[113262a]

Let's start educational program! This motor is with oncoming movement of the pistons. I repeat, at the six-cylinder opposition, there are SIX PISTONS AND CONNECTORS, one crankshaft. An example is the engine of the Porsche Carrera and BMD. UMO-550-with six cylinders-12 pistons and connecting rods with two crankshafts. And the pistons during the stroke move towards each cylinder. The second! An injector is not only a fuel supply system (which is not an injector at all), but if on fingers, the principle of a paint spray gun, the exhaust stream sucks in air that cools the motor radiator. An example is the same BMD, BTRD and t-64. By the way, the inventor of this engine called such a system LUFTSHPRITZ! And he is the very Junkers. And the engine in the USSR was made by the Malyshev plant, by the way, he was put on diesel locomotives and worked well there. Pardon, a cylinder engine similar in principle to 10 was installed. And he was set to one side.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 113262

Because like an injector!

Yes, any diesel engine is an injector, there is a pump that sprays fuel under high pressure into the cylinder through nozzles.
Do you know exactly what you are writing about?

[dvina71]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Pennies will find.

The weakest point of these machines is the engine. Unreliable, noisy and with low torque, characteristic of all 2 tactics.
We move on .. the shafts .., of course they made some kind of statements there .., but
immediately recall their mortar ..
And then at least some gadgets on him will be sculpted .. it will be like with CT .., but formidable, protected .., but half reached the battle ..

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

BCKT “Mikrotek” in the 2018 year, announced the development by the 2017 year of the ROC to create the DZ “Shield” which, represent the further development of the DZ “Knife”, and is intended to modernize the APU tank fleet. As for the new T-64BVs of the 2017 model of the year, I have perhaps only one serious claim - I’m not sure that when the dynamic protection of the 2 generation is triggered in such blocks, detonation will not be transferred to neighboring blocks and, thus, with “exposure” a considerable part of the projection of the tank, as on this T-64B1M.

[113262a]

Normal trunks! Billets from the time of the USSR hobbled-still enough! Also, the Poles drove.

[Dmitry Nikolaevich Fedunov]

Quote: Gray Brother

It remains to find a penny.

They will find it, and the Partners known to us will. For "this" will be given unequivocally (there are no aborigines for a decent life, but yes for that). Time is working for Banderstadt. Alas: they have no "hurry"
We can only wait ...

[Baloo_bst]

The next "Oplot" will be created. Apparently a profitable business, the new government wants to earn extra money.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Baloo_bst

The next "Oplot" will be created.

More powerful than that?

[Avior]

Why laugh?
The famous Soviet gun GS-23 has such a rate of fire - 3000 per minute
Able to do before.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Avior

The famous Soviet gun GS-23 has such a rate of fire - 3000 per minute

Yeah. They compared an aircraft gun with a tank ... Famously

[Avior]

It’s gsh 23 that stands there (well, or it stood, if it had not already been handed over for scrap), this is not a tank, but a bmpt
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Азовец_(бронемашина)

[tracer]

He imagined how a tank gun at the pace of the General Staff sets ...... tin. But I would not want to be on the other side of the gun.

[Mountain shooter]

Not overpowered Oplot? Rolled back. To the 64-cam. So in Arabia and the T-55 upgrade.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Not overpowered Oplot?

But how beautifully I thought

[Baloo_bst]

Yes, there is simply nothing to get rid of. The carcasses of the 80s are over, otherwise there would be "Oplot 2", "Yatagan 3", etc. etc. how much welding is enough.
How much the motor is not capital, it will not be better than new.
On the t-64 carcass, you can put a tower from the BMP - modernization. New in tank building.
Slippers in Syria fiercely envy the flight of thought in Ukraine. One Azovec is worth.

[svp67]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Not overpowered Oplot?

But Lviv never made tanks, he repaired them. Previously, only the T-72, and now, apparently with the lack of such, I switched to the T-64. Here, in the last frames of the video, a series of 10 tanks is shown, two on the left, for fire fighting equipment it is T-72, and the rest T-64

[bogart047]

less than 50 years from the date of issue)

[Prisoner]

But not like Muscovites. Well, as small children, I swear!

[Yarr_Arr]

Children are evil. And you can kill from a grandfather’s gun. Unfortunately

[Sergei 777]

T-64 This is a cool car. And its modernization is certainly a step forward. But still this is a tank of the 70s-80s level. You can bet on it only out of poverty. What actually we see.

[Kurare]

Quote: Sergey 777

But still this is a tank of the 70s-80s level. You can bet on it only out of poverty.

T-72 is being modernized in Russia. The tank is also from the 70s-80s. And nothing. Of course, I would like more completely new, like "Armata". But such wishlist and the rich will make the poor.

[Sergei 777]

T-72 is still another matter. There is still a lot left in the former police department. After all, Abrams was the answer to 72ku inadvertently. And the T-64 is already outdated. The freshest sides are almost 40 years old.

[Holgerton]

Initially, the future that M1 Abrams, that Leopard 2 went under the same project MBT-70 and were the answer to the T-64A with a 125-mm gun, but the project was closed and the further development of the Americans and the Germans was different, the first samples appeared around the beginning of the 80s x years, and following your logic, they can already be attributed to the answer to the T-72, T-64 and T-80 combined.

[Kurare]

Quote: Sergey 777

After all, Abrams was the answer to 72ku inadvertently.

Abrams was made with an eye on the T-80 and as a response to the "trinity": T-64/72/80.

Quote: Sergey 777

The freshest sides are almost 40 years old.

Again, if the machine was in storage or its resource remained decent, then all these fatkores allow for modernization. A tank is not a car.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sergey 777

T-72 is still another matter. There is still a lot left in the former police department. After all, Abrams was the answer to 72ku inadvertently. And the T-64 is already outdated. The freshest sides are almost 40 years old.

If the machine performs its tasks, what kind of obsolescence can we talk about? The tank, by and large, is simply a carrier of weapons and electronics. And protection is a business.

[alexmach]

T-72 is still another matter.

Yes, the same thing, only in profile.

[Nikolaevich I]

But on the other hand, thanks to the next modernization of the T-64, a new term was "born":["shock-cumulative ammunition of the type <shock core>"!

[Tuzik]

As far as I remember, his engine was a sore spot and the suspension is weaker than that of the 72nd. Here about the improvement of this not a word.

[Holgerton]

The engine was called a sore spot on the T-64BM "Bulat", as it did not sufficiently increase power from 700 hp. up to 850 hp, and the suspension characteristics back in the 80s when testing the object 478 built on the basis of the linear T-64B were found satisfactory for further operation and modernization.
You can still recall the tests of 1976-1984, when comparative tests of the T-64, T-72 and T-80 were conducted, according to the results of which the T-64 was inferior to the T-80 in smoothness and slightly superior to the T-72, but at the same time its manufacturability production of the T-64 chassis was higher.

[Tuzik]

According to the stories of the tankers, the engine was very harmful, it often broke down, ate a bunch of oil, it started poorly. And the suspension was with a weak margin of safety, at high loads pulled out a torsion bar with intestines.

[Holgerton]

Well, you can read about the tests yourself, all the same, what the tankers say is more a subjective judgment, but probably the T-64 didn’t just stand next to the T-80 in the GSVG, regarding the suspension and the torn torsions, let's say the same T- The 64BM did not have such problems with a large mass, but heavy loads are also a relative concept, and it is not clear under what conditions these tankers reached them.

[yehat]

I saw shots of comparative tests - all 3 suspensions were flawed, but on T64 there were more problems with the rollers.

[113262a]

She's just SOVIET! Designed, tested and tested in the USSR. What is better 72 is for sure! As he was a tank for the poor, it is! And given that the Ukrainians crammed into 64 French electronics and optics, which was decent (IZYUMSKAYA), they got a rather dangerous, albeit not perfect, tank, it worked both on 64 and 72, and even the term-80.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Which is better than 72, that's for sure! ...... it's strange how you, working on the T-64, did not notice such a counter as the motor resource of the main power plant is only 200 hours, the replacement is only together with the transmission, they supplied an auxiliary 30kW, but it is not protected and if damaged even with rifle calibers, it leads to a fire, rollers of a smaller diameter than those of the T-72, because the tires of the rollers are literally eaten away, and if the T-72 between the 3rd and 4th rinks absolutely cannot get into the "carousel" from the side is completely open, and if a pair of RPG-64 fire (even with an old grenade) is conducted from the flank, which takes out the side kit, then the ancient PTRS literally holes the side of the 7 with its 64 like butter, between 14.5-3 rinks, you don't believe, look how many 4 with torn off towers in battles with DNR

[113262a]

Let's start from the end! What and how it tears off in taekas in Donbass, I see, as if from within the process! The towers fly off EVERYONE the same! There are no 64 bandages, hence the creak and the roar! Iron by iron tracks. This is not 80, where rubber on rubber! Now the screens with cookies are lower. But if I managed to substitute both sides under the RPG crew died. For they will certainly finish. Yes, 64 is also snapping around the corners. It is. And on the motor, I repeat, the aircraft engine. Gentle. Powerful. And he is changing, like everyone else. Final drives (planetary gears) remain on the tank. So with 64 and 80. About 200 hours of fairy tales! This is a week of work. Although, talents are also being tackled by the deformed D-12-400, which are on the IMR and Bati.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

.Uh, if I managed to substitute ...... in local conflicts this is just the rule than the exception, all 64 were created as a tank for breaking the enemy’s defense, mass use as part of a tank division will not leave a single chance to the enemy, but T -64 in local conflicts is unacceptable, except as self-propelled guns, well, if Zelensky modernizes a pair of full-fledged divisions, then maybe it will be strength, but for now only snot. and by the way. while the remote-controlled version of the T-64 does not exist, but with frames that would rivet a couple of divisions at the Kiev junta strained, so let them upgrade, the handouts need to be mastered and camouflaged

[113262a]

Well, it's kind of propaganda! The tenacity, quick wit and mentality of their crews are approximately equivalent to ours. Staffing spare parts and repair fund, they have better. With the repair fund, our rembats on the topic 64-strained. Crimean pieces of iron run out))) I ran into the crew at the fifti-fifti training grounds. With fuels and lubricants the same. But they already shoveled Chernobyl junk and ride.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

on the topic of 64-strained. Crimean pieces of iron end ..... in Crimea, if there is somewhere T-64, then this is most likely exhibits. rather than combat units, my first-born is now the T-72B mechvod. says that they’ll change to the T-72B3, I was wondering if there was a T-64 somewhere in the Crimea. (exercises often go), says that they are not in the exercises, I ask, well, did you go through the 64th math base? and he - why if they are not and never will be.
The staffing of spare parts and repair equipment, they have better ..... but here it is absolutely doubtful, there was a case known when in the 15th year a platoon of four 64-k was sent to support the huntyar "trekhminators" at the Donetsk airport. one immediately ordered to live, the second stood at the transition, the third disappeared from some unknown place, and the fourth was taken unharmed by the DNR, they wanted to have some fun from the RPG. but he himself climbed into the ditch, it's good that they didn't burn it with the RPG, the crew consisted of frightened guys 18-19 years old, well, something like that, they have no personnel, who escaped to the Russian Federation who to the west

[113262a]

Ukrainians took what was on the move in 14 from Crimea. What wasn’t underway ... and it was the t-64s that went ... hands ... Then the Ukrainians cut through the topic and requested it, but they were sent at 15. And 64 in combat units and in the DPR and LPR is and decently. About B3-Give it to God! This bike has been walking since the age of 15! So far, God almost always gives what Dzhigits lezginka danced on))).

[Sonmaster]

"Lybid K-2RB"
Oh, this merciless mov ...

[alexmach]

This is actually a proper name and not mov.

[Sonmaster]

You are right, for example, "Lybid B310", but it is somehow associated with the word.

[andrewkor]

In Uzbekistan, there are several hundred 64-c exported from the GSVG, some even on the go, but the treba is modernized in Ukrainian. We can sell it at a reasonable price.
It would be interesting to see how kakly with the Uzbeks would come to terms! ☺!

[113262a]

64 withdrawn from Hungary. In the GSVG there were 64a and about 219r (80).

[Tuzik]

And where do they get guns for them? It seems that they weren’t made in Ukraine before, or did I hear the ringing of the wrong gun?

[alexmach]

There are also buildings.

[Holgerton]

They were made before in the Artillery Design Bureau, they were called KBA-3, but the quality was unsatisfactory, the resource was small, only 300-400 rounds were fired by an ammunition shell,
as in the early 2A46M (1), the Starokramatorsky Mechanical Plant is now engaged in this, now they observe the technology of chrome barrel bore and the resource has increased to 700-900 rounds, there was news on the subject.

[Tuzik]

Thank you, I will know, I thought the workarounds. I remember in the zero they said that Russia supplies.

[akims]

In Krivoy Rog there is a machine for the production of guns. One.

[113262a]

Nasgineli drove. After modernization under NATO, there are trunks under 125-nemeryano!

[Cocaine]

If the crews will also be recruiting there, then it will be hard for the militia in the Donbass .. These Bandera are in the blood ..

[Invoce]

In general, the means of destruction of the T-64 (which turned 50 yesterday at lunch) is not a bad tank. But as a means of warfare and crew protection - sorry, OUTDATED!

[tarabar]

They have already modernized Kalashnikov assault rifles somewhere, so successfully that the whole batch went to the trash heap. I hope a similar "disposal" scheme will be applied here

[113262a]

So 72 there too! I have not seen a single machine with encrypted communication!

[Ros 56]

Let them do, in the Donbass come in handy for militias.

[113262a]

If they give up, they will come in handy! A burned-on ferrous only.

[Bodipancher]

It is interesting why the T-72BZ did not have a remote-controlled module of the anti-aircraft machine gun from the T-90. Indeed, in essence, the platform is one, everything should be suitable. The Ukrainians put on the ancient T-64.

[Meliodous]

Standing on t-64. I don’t want him on the T-72 because of the fact that this requires reworking the commander’s hatch and changing the standard monitoring device (I can be wrong here, a couple of years ago there was an article that put the current configuration of the T-72 with tkn-3 still hemorrhoids). And in the mind, in order to aim normally from this zpu, you need to have a good panorama (as on t-90m). Therefore, I think that the zpu on the t-72 will appear only when they decide to change the commander's observation device.

[113262a]

64 and 80 have the same TKN. ZPU sight at 64-separate unit.

[Meliodous]

T-64 in this regard was generally lucky. He has the only one of the Soviet tanks standing with remote control. But at the same time she is sick with this:
"During the tests, their significant design flaws were revealed:
- the possibility of timely visual detection of aerial targets with closed hatches was not provided due to the small field of view of standard observation devices and aiming the tank in a vertical plane;
- the sight of the anti-aircraft mount PZU-5 (field of view 50 °) made it possible to detect an air target with closed hatches of the tank
only in a predetermined sector (not more than 120 ° horizontally), with an unknown direction of flight of an air target, its detection by the gunner without additional target designation was impossible;
- it was not ensured conducting aimed fire at the range of the actual fire of the machine gun "Cliff" at targets moving at a speed of more than 120 m / s;
- in the process of testing, there were malfunctions and failures of the drive for pointing the charger, reloading mechanism, knocking down of reconciliation of the PZU-5 sight after firing a gun, instability of accuracy and accuracy of the battle;
- the autonomy of the drive for circular fire was not provided: when firing at the stern of the tank, it was required to deploy the turret. The elimination of this drawback entailed a significant rearrangement of the turret of the serial tank, in connection with which the proposed placement of the Utes machine gun on the turret hatch, adopted in the ZU-64, was considered unpromising; "

It seems to me that precisely because very little is visible in the scope of the zpu, they do not even put it on the t-72. It was just put on the t-64 at the factory, and therefore the Ukrainians did not begin to change it. Why?
And ours needs to redo the node for the sake of zpu. But why, if it’s easier to wait until a panorama is put on the tank, and stick this zpu to it (like on the t-90m and t-14).

[113262a]

Ahhhh! And you from the ZPU of the same 72 or 80 FIRED? Detect the target, sticking to the waist of the hatch, easily! But to shoot, only from a place, and even stop her on the go-kirdyk to the spine! All this stuff weighs 300-400 kg, so it twists a person at a time! In this case, before pressing the shutter release, you must lock with the key and the vertical steering wheel. Otherwise, you won’t get anywhere for sure! And the scatter at 900 m from the cliff is just a disaster compared to the PKT. I understand that this was done for anti-aircraft fire, but there’s nowhere to shoot like that on the ground. And by the way, think about why they don’t use a collimator on the same BIATHLON!

[Meliodous]

Yes, I understand that.
But in Moscow region I think they think so:
a) when installing zpu closed-type zu-64, the commander of nicherta will not see it
b) on the t-80 there is a zpu with manual (!!!) control without an electric drive, i.e. no better than open on t-72
c) on the t-90a there is a normal zpu, but it is mounted on another monitoring device
d) on the t-90m there is a panorama paired with a remotely controlled zpu
Conclusion:
Because The t-72b3 is a gradual (!) modernization of the t-72b with a gradual bringing to the t-90 level, then why now put on it the zu-64 or the zpu from the t-90a, if sooner or later (in 2020, for example) the panorama from suo viburnum is mixed up on it, and with it a new zpu. In the meantime, it’s alright

[Lord of the Sith]

Yeah, well, the battalion can be mastered, but they will still ride on the old T 64B of various modifications.

[sibiryak.vitya]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Pennies will find

This is all of course good. But after so many years, metal fatigue must have accumulated.
Well, they’ll deliver new electronics, but the iron will remain old

Fatigue of the metal is manifested when carrying out loads, especially vibration, shock and alternating. If mothballed as expected and if mothballed in due time, the metal will live hundreds of years. Aging seals. Rubber, plastic. Electronics.

[Alexey Almaatinets]

Everything that was preserved on conservation in a more or less decent condition was sold by Ukraine until 2014. The rest was dismantled for repair of military equipment, or simply plundered.

[Popov Konstantin Ivanovich]

Each country has the right to its own tank, and also has the LAW for: industrial production of tanks, production of tanks on an industrial and export scale, logistics for tanks, production (on an industrial scale) of fuel for tanks, production of crews for tanks, replenishment of real losses in crews, replenishment in depreciation of the material part, replenishment of the means of production of e tseter e tseter ,,,, but do Ukraine have the opportunity to exercise these rights, tse net?

[tochila]

Whatever the child is amusing!

[tolmachiev51]

- "The presence of a stable order and financing from the customer, to modernize all the T-64 available in the APU" - that's the whole question !? Where to get money ..

[Doliva63]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Doliva63

And UGV, it seems, was all on 64.

Yes, I made a mistake.

It happens