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In the United States, a dispute arose about the correct wearing of army berets

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In the United States, the possibility of amending the standards for wearing berets for military personnel of individual formations is being discussed. In particular, it is noted that the military "moved away from the uniform wearing of berets.


In the United States, a dispute arose about the correct wearing of army berets


According to the rules existing, for example, in the 3th brigade of the US Army, the beret should have a “beating” on the right side, and in such a way that the beret was partially pulled over the right ear and covered the edge of the right eye.

The US Army noted that tradition is tradition, and convenience is convenience. Many do not push uniform takes on the eye even during solemn (ceremonial) ceremonies. In addition, often military personnel do not make the beret a "statutory" hall with raising its front part (this is required to fix the cockade of the unit).




Statutory Beret Wear (Sergeant Russell Bell):


Disputes over wearing a beret began due to the fact that the statutory rules dictated the need to push the bearer to the edge of the eye for those who wear glasses. This led to a somewhat ridiculous version of the aforementioned crease of the headgear, and therefore those who wear glasses themselves began to abandon the charter option.


The command currently does not apply any sanctions to the "violators".
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  1. Vasily Ponomarev
    Vasily Ponomarev 12 August 2019 13: 16
    -28
    ha ha ha in the USA, in the USA, in the USA. bravo, it seems the site was mistaken (and the country)
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 12 August 2019 13: 21
      +22
      so go to another. what are the difficulties then? This site is a military review. I note not only the Russian army but in general. and discusses all the topics that are connected with this.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 August 2019 13: 45
      +5
      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      ha ha ha in the USA, in the USA, in the USA. bravo, it seems the site was mistaken (and the country)

      Did you understand what you wrote?
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    4. vkl.47
      vkl.47 12 August 2019 15: 37
      +3
      Takes a photo from the ass.
    5. Simargl
      Simargl 12 August 2019 19: 34
      +3
      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      It seems the site was wrong (and the country)
      Wrong. A country, probably ... a good riddance.
  2. MoJloT
    MoJloT 12 August 2019 13: 20
    +19
    Where is Sergeant Russell Bell? We have a couple of questions.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 August 2019 14: 55
      +4
      Quote: MoJloT
      Where is Sergeant Russell Bell? We have a couple of questions.

      They have already sent for him
    2. PalBor
      PalBor 12 August 2019 15: 16
      +3
      Yeah. The last phrase that the command does not apply sanctions to violators is strong. There, at least the last two in the photo have already given their soul to God in Afghanistan. Apply.
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    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 August 2019 13: 50
      +7
      Quote: AlexSam
      takes on the right eye and ear - it's cool!

      Everything, as it should be for transgender people and passive homosexuals.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 13 August 2019 00: 51
        0
        Are you sure that the photo is "transgender or passive fagot"?
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 13 August 2019 09: 53
          +2
          Quote: Nycomed
          Are you sure that the photo is "transgender or passive fagot"?

          No, I didn’t write about who is in the photo. I just wanted to show how women wear berets. A passive, usually play female roles.
          1. Nycomed
            Nycomed 13 August 2019 10: 02
            0
            Well, you know, there are women with such testicles ... Any man will envy! good
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 August 2019 14: 50
      +2
      Quote: AlexSam
      but takes on the right eye

      Remember children's cartoons. Who had blindfolds in one eye? lol
  4. Nycomed
    Nycomed 12 August 2019 13: 22
    -1
    "The command does not apply any sanctions to the" violators "at the moment."
    He does what he does not apply correctly. The head, in the end, every person has a different shape. Let them wear as they please. I understand that everything should look the same in the companies of the guard of honor, and the employee in a regular military unit has personal convenience, first of all.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 August 2019 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: Nycomed
      , and the employee in the ordinary military unit has personal convenience - first of all.

      Yes, and why in general close one eye? request It's not at the shooting range
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 12 August 2019 19: 36
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        It's not at the shooting range
        Right fool
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 12 August 2019 19: 38
          +2
          Quote: Simargl
          Right

          fool Are all right-handed in the Army?
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 12 August 2019 19: 45
            0
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Are all right-handed in the Army?
            And berets all in one direction tongue
  5. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 12 August 2019 13: 24
    +6
    let them take the beret back for those who wear glasses and forward for those who do not wear them
    unusual, cool, recognizable, hype !!
  6. bubalik
    bubalik 12 August 2019 13: 24
    +1
    ,,, in the last photo, twenty-year-old Brandon Kricher, who died in Afghanistan 29.07.19. from the 82th division of the US Army.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 12 August 2019 14: 04
      -1
      Quote: bubalik
      dead in Afghanistan 29.07.19/XNUMX/XNUMX

      This is all because he takes it wrongly worn, if he thought about the fact that he would be hindered by the glasses he would wear it correctly and would not disgrace the American Army if he remained in civilian life, then he would be alive now.
      But no, he decided to live on government grubs and after 20 years of masturbation in the barracks, he still began to receive $ 5000 a month, though he was not fartanulo and he was sent to carry democracy to Afghanistan, where rebels banged him for it.
      And all from the fact that the uniform must be worn according to the charter, and not to disgrace the army with its appearance.
      1. Vasily Ponomarev
        Vasily Ponomarev 12 August 2019 15: 40
        0
        told Afghan veterans
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 12 August 2019 17: 23
          +2
          Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
          told Afghan veterans

          Afghan veterans are now fighting with the Americans and their uniforms are free.
      2. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 12 August 2019 17: 21
        0
        Quote: Gray Brother
        But no, he decided to live on government grubs and after 20 years of masturbation in the barracks, he still began to receive $ 5000 a month, though he was not fartanulo and he was sent to carry democracy to Afghanistan, where rebels banged him for it.

        strongly said ... but to those who died from 1979 to 1989, also applies? fool
        Peace be upon you - sergeant.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 12 August 2019 17: 28
          +3
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          and to those who died from 1979 to 1989, also applies?

          No, it doesn’t, because they were fulfilling an international duty, helping to build socialism for the friendly people of Afghanistan - and not for the sake of free money, they joined the army.
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Peace be upon you - sergeant.

          I think hell is being fried in hell on a spit now.
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 12 August 2019 17: 53
            -5
            Bah, how many slogans it is.
            Quote: Gray Brother
            helping to build socialism for the friendly people of Afghanistan

            helped? why this
            Quote: Gray Brother
            friendly people of Afghanistan
            shot our troops in the back?
            In the army
            Quote: Gray Brother
            for the sake of free money
            I didn’t know
            Quote: Gray Brother
            I think hell is being fried in hell on a spit now.
            don’t hope, he died on the battlefield, his sins were written off to him, and you shall repent your sins so that the devil does not prepare a frying pan for you.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 12 August 2019 18: 00
              +5
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              I didn’t know

              In the American - yes, there are losers who have nowhere else to go.
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              helped?

              Not - Gorbachev happened, and then Gorbachev happened to the whole USSR too.
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              shot our troops in the back?

              This was fired by Afghan fighters for American freedom supported by the United States, then they thanked the Americans by dumping them with two skyscrapers and poking the Pentagon, and now they are shooting at American soldiers carrying democracy to them.
              1. Pedrodepackes
                Pedrodepackes 12 August 2019 18: 08
                -5
                Quote: Gray Brother
                In the American - yes, there are losers who have nowhere else to go.

                I believe that our double basses have unlimited choices and they serve solely out of love for the motherland (this does not apply to the vast majority of officers, but not to all)?
                Quote: Gray Brother
                Not - happened Gorbachev

                most importantly, switchman to appoint
                Quote: Gray Brother
                fighters fought for american freedom

                freedom is not American or Chinese, it either is or is not. So it means they still fought for freedom?)))
                Quote: Gray Brother
                shoot at American soldiers carrying them democracy.

                Do you think that it is possible to carry socialism with bayonets, but democracy is impossible?
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 12 August 2019 18: 18
                  +4
                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  still fought for freedom?)))

                  For American Freedom! And then just with the infidels.
                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  you think that you can carry socialism with bayonets

                  But socialism was brought there not with hostility, just Amin sold himself to amers and banged him, and the Americans saw that the country was slipping out of their hands and began to sponsor terrorists and actually created al-Qaeda.
                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  most importantly, switchman to appoint

                  Yes, yes, Rafik is not winy)))
    2. bubalik
      bubalik 12 August 2019 14: 06
      +3
      sergeant russell bell
      ,,, 1 Sergeant Russell R. Bell, 37 years old, was blown up by a makeshift explosive device in Kandahar province, Afghanistan, in August 2012.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 12 August 2019 17: 41
        +3
        Quote: bubalik
        from the 82nd division of the US Army.

        Wow ... It looks like you can't tell. "Technician" I suppose?
        "Hall", "chop" is for cadets, and then the course from the 3rd ... In the troops lol
        In general, it smells like "old-regime tricks" ... Somewhere in history, I've already come across this ... what
  7. Graz
    Graz 12 August 2019 13: 42
    +3
    request and if a person has a mohawk on his head, how does he take to wear?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 12 August 2019 13: 49
      +9
      Quote: Graz
      and if a person has a mohawk on his head, how does he take to wear?

      The slot will do.
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    3. tarabar
      tarabar 12 August 2019 14: 38
      +5
      A little sanding with a towel and mohawk turns into an elegant hairstyle that does not interfere with the wearing of a beret. lol
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 12 August 2019 14: 48
        +3
        Quote: tarabar
        A little sanding with a towel and mohawk turns into an elegant hairstyle,

        What if it is part of the gender identity of the soldier / s (emphasize necessary / or not necessary)?
        Will there be homophobia in this?
        1. tarabar
          tarabar 12 August 2019 15: 00
          +4
          I think it’s unlikely, Gray Brother, that the US Armed Forces charter says something about the peculiarities of expressing gender identity in the form of a soldier’s clothes, and therefore Iroquois can be worn, but only with the fur inside.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 12 August 2019 15: 09
            +1
            Quote: tarabar
            I think hardly

            This contradicts the universal values ​​for which Great America is fighting.
    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 12 August 2019 14: 57
      +3
      Quote: Graz
      and if a person has a mohawk on his head, how does he take to wear?

      On the ears request
    5. Freeman
      Freeman 12 August 2019 18: 24
      +6
      Quote: Graz
      request and if a person has a mohawk on his head, how does he take to wear?


      stop According to the charter, a "cocked hat" is put to the "mohawk"!


      wassat laughing
  8. usr01
    usr01 12 August 2019 13: 48
    +1
    Oh my god .... Well, I would have their problems ... There is absolutely nothing to do ???
  9. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 12 August 2019 13: 59
    +4
    I do not know how the wearing of berets is regulated in the "foreign", but we have the first official berets appeared in the Airborne Forces. So our paratroopers do not regulate the wearing of berets in any way, because at one time General Margelov said: "He takes it dashingly on a paratrooper!" Found the following about our Airborne Forces:
    • In everyday wear, the beret breaks to the right, but for the parade at ceremonial events, the corner is changed to the opposite side and the beret breaks to the left. • For parades on Red Square, special mirror-shaped berets were made.

    Source: https://fishki.net/1743689-istorija-vvedenija-golubogo-bereta-v-vozdushno-desantnyh-vojskah.html © Fishki.net
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    2. Sanya Terek
      Sanya Terek 12 August 2019 15: 35
      +2
      Article 123 of the Order of the Minister of Defense of the USSR of 1988 No. 250: "... takes, ... is put on with a slight tilt to the right side, so that the lower edge ... of the beret ... is at a distance of 2-4 cm above the eyebrows."
      Article 40 of the Order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2015 No. 300 is similar to Article 123. Only takes it looks different, closer to the foreign option ..
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 12 August 2019 15: 51
        +1
        Thanks for the info. I will now check my classmates-paratroopers for knowledge of orders))) how to wear it correctly.
  10. Rwmos
    Rwmos 12 August 2019 14: 26
    0
    What nonsense ... Krapovy takes it like they don’t put a current on, and like a halo, for example ... What are you driving?
  11. blizart
    blizart 12 August 2019 14: 34
    +4
    For SAS candidates, fitting the unit's beret is the final test. Imagine, the candidate has successfully passed through the "meat grinder" of all kinds of exams, but the commander did not like the way the beret and goodbye was sitting on him. There have been cases.
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 14 August 2019 03: 36
      0
      Quote: blizart
      For SAS candidates, fitting the unit's beret is the final test. Imagine, the candidate has successfully passed through the "meat grinder" of all kinds of exams, but the commander did not like the way the beret and goodbye was sitting on him. There have been cases.

      if this is true, then this is idiocy as it is
  12. Avior
    Avior 12 August 2019 14: 43
    +4
    I understand that for some military branches it takes a symbol rather than a hat, but, in my opinion, caps, caps and panama hat are much more practical than it takes.
    IMHO, it makes sense to use it only for the full dress
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 12 August 2019 19: 00
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      I understand that for some military branches it takes a symbol rather than a hat, but, in my opinion, caps, caps and panama hat are much more practical than it takes.
      IMHO, it makes sense to use it only for the full dress


      Well do not tell.
      In battle, the psychological impact on the enemy is also of no small importance.

      In the battles of the Great Patriotic War, Soviet marines covered themselves with unfading glory.
      “Black Death,” as the enemy soldiers called it.
      A distinctive feature, the "trademark" of these fighters, was a peakless cap and a vest.

      Even if the unit was dressed in a field infantry uniform, during the attack these attributes were displayed "on display" - the collars of the gymnasts swung open so that the "sea soul" was visible, and the helmets were changed to peakless caps, which is clearly visible on newsreels (0: 20 - 0:25).

      It produced an indelible psychological effect on the enemies.

      1. Avior
        Avior 12 August 2019 19: 58
        -2
        The modern field uniform is aimed at ensuring that not only do the units look the same, but even that the officers and soldiers are minimally different.
        You can’t scare anyone in battle with a cap or beret, but it’s more convenient to aim at the enemy
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  14. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 August 2019 16: 26
    +1
    They argued about berets, Grisha ... didn’t it come to a fight? No.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 August 2019 16: 42
      +4
      Shaw there! When the question more importantly arises: pants or skirts ?! French with ruffles ali with a pose ?!
  15. Storog dvornik
    Storog dvornik 12 August 2019 17: 22
    +1
    At first glance, a curious topic ...
    The opinion of forum users is interesting, maybe someone knows the statutory arguments for wearing almost the same headgear of junior officers, the emperor and the generals and generals. especially the 17th and 19th centuries - separate hat fields up, down ... look at old engravings / paintings ... it's not so simple ... it's like wearing a round skull cap (in a bail skull cap is abruptly cross but also round) ...
  16. brom
    brom 12 August 2019 17: 37
    +1
    Something like...

  17. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 12 August 2019 18: 10
    +2
    It looks like a clown, all of the Yankees is not like people.
    Is it the case with us))
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 14 August 2019 03: 46
      0
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      It looks like a clown, all of the Yankees is not like people.
      Is it the case with us))

      beautiful and neat - that's what a soldier should look like
      without any "their spreading"
  18. demo
    demo 12 August 2019 18: 30
    +3
    An elderly Uzbek and an age-old Ukrainian decided to marry her life.
    Uzbek and says.
    -We are adults, there are many of our habits, let's do it so that we understand who is in what mood. So we will avoid quarrels and quarrels.
    Ukrainian and says.
    -Tell about yours.
    The Uzbek begins.
    -If I came and I have a skullcap on the right side of my head, then ask for what you want. But if on the left, then do not come.
    Ukrainian and says.
    -And here are my signs that you need to pay attention to. If my arms are crossed on my chest, then everything is fine. If on the sides, then the mood is terrible. Well, if behind me, then it’s completely violet to me on which side you have a skullcap.

    Wearing a beret with an overlap on the eye affects or does not affect discipline and combat readiness?
    Affects - wear as required.
    No effect - then everything is purple.

    In general, the topic has been raised archie important.
    Well, a very worthy topic.
    Directly for Military Review.
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 12 August 2019 21: 36
      0
      Quote: demo
      An elderly Uzbek and an age-old Ukrainian decided to marry her life.
      Uzbek and says.
      -We are adults, there are many of our habits, let's do it so that we understand who is in what mood. So we will avoid quarrels and quarrels.
      Ukrainian and says.
      -Tell about yours.
      The Uzbek begins.
      -If I came and I have a skullcap on the right side of my head, then ask for what you want. But if on the left, then do not come.
      Ukrainian and says.
      -And here are my signs that you need to pay attention to. If my arms are crossed on my chest, then everything is fine. If on the sides, then the mood is terrible. Well, if behind me, then it’s completely violet to me on which side you have a skullcap.

      Wearing a beret with an overlap on the eye affects or does not affect discipline and combat readiness?
      Affects - wear as required.
      No effect - then everything is purple.

      In general, the topic has been raised archie important.
      Well, a very worthy topic.
      Directly for Military Review.

      Well, you can talk about wearing a cap, there was such a hat ...
      1. demo
        demo 13 August 2019 06: 23
        +1
        Can.
        As well as helmets, belts, boots and everything else.
        Two fingers above the eyebrows and an asterisk in the middle of the forehead.
        But why is this all?
        In combat conditions, what and where is located is convenience and survival.
        Under ordinary conditions - is it really important?
        Unless you take into account the basic postulate of the army - everything should be monotonous.
        And here, at me, fundamental discrepancies with reality begin.
        For me, monotony is the end of my life.
        I am individual to the bone marrow.
        Any violence against me in any form causes rejection.
        Therefore, he did not choose this path in life - the path of a serviceman.
        I can not follow someone else’s instructions and orders.
        Always starting to analyze the feasibility and necessity.
        And for the army - this is death.
  19. Old26
    Old26 13 August 2019 12: 06
    +3
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    It looks like a clown, all of the Yankees is not like people.
    Is it the case with us))

    Each has its own traditions. For example, the Celt looks wild on a peasant, but for Scots this is a sign of pride. I think it’s not worth it to so clearly judge others. Clown or not, this is an individual attitude. Moreover, most often if it is an enemy, it will always look like a clown. If yours, then it means that.
    Each country has its own traditions. Each has its own tailoring. And for others, the same details of our form of the recent past, like, for example, shoulder straps on the chest and on the left sleeve of the times of Serdyukov, can look exactly the same way in clown’s way ....
  20. Monar
    Monar 13 August 2019 16: 43
    +1
    In the United States, a dispute arose about the correct wearing of army berets
    Is it not on my head or what? laughing