In the struggle for stability. Twenty Years of Putin's System

Project "ZZ". On 9 of August 1999 of the year V. Putin was appointed Acting Prime Minister, and from August 16 took office as Prime Minister. According to foreign analysts, over the twenty years of his reign, Vladimir Putin has cleared the political field in Russia, weeded the weeds, and turned the policy itself into imitation. He began with the rise, and came to a crisis. Die Dämonen der Krise is already nearby.




Weeding without end


Christian Ash in the publication "Spiegel Online" spoke about the twentieth anniversary of the “Das System Putin”.

According to Herr Ashe, there are two ways to politics. The first begins with a small one: a politician solves local issues, gains confidence, accumulates experience, then gradually switches to large issues and takes up higher posts. This is the “classic path,” the journalist believes, noting that the opposition is “trying to follow the path in Moscow today.” Two years ago, the opposition managed to get posts in the districts, now it seeks to the Moscow City Duma, and from there "only one step to the State Duma."

The second path to politics begins not from below, but from above, continues Ash. This is the way for beginners. Exactly twenty years ago, such “newcomer” was presented to Russian viewers, “baffled”. On August 9 of August 1999, Boris Yeltsin announced in his message that the author of the article recalls that Vladimir Putin will act as prime minister.



The Russians knew Putin’s name: he was “the director of the FSB, an influential person,” the journalist writes. But they were shocked; they did not know anything about him. After all, his entire career took place “outside the public sphere”. He was anyone, but not a politician, notes H. Ash. Thus, as a politician, he “was born exactly 20 years ago when Boris Yeltsin made him prime minister.”

If you look into the past, it may seem as though “Putin’s path to the Russian peak was a foregone conclusion,” the author of Spiegel continues. People around the “sick Yeltsin” were desperately looking for a successor who would not touch either themselves or their property. Putin, the author develops his thesis, was "an ideal figure, after all, he was known for his devotion."

Everything else, Ash says ironically, could be "left to the television crew and political scientists." They quickly "made the right image for the pale apparatchik Putin." That was the image of a "strong man." They also built a suitable party, giving it the name "Unity".

The rise of Putin contributed to gloomy times. Two days before Putin's appointment, Islamist militants from Chechnya attacked in Dagestan. The second Chechen war, which began in those days, and was accompanied by terrorist attacks, ended for Moscow with the conquest of Grozny.

When Boris Yeltsin unexpectedly left his post on New Year's Eve, 2000, announcing a successor, Putin was already “extremely popular,” says Ash. His rating "increased from 31 percent in August 1999 year to 84 percent in January 2000 year." Therefore, he had no competitors in the presidential election held in March 2000.

True, at that time the Yeltsin team had formidable opponents: former Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

Two decades later, everything changed. "The field of public policy" was cleared, taken under control. New players on this field are "not allowed."

The Kremlin, Ash believes, has gradually replaced "real political competition with imitation." "Putin himself" took care of this. And if in the 1999 year it was difficult for Russian citizens to imagine Putin in politics, today they can hardly imagine politics without Putin: there is no alternative in thoughts.

However, Putin is not getting younger, Ash is in a hurry to remind. And in 2024, he will have to give up his high post if he follows the constitution.

And just now from the events in Moscow it is clear that state policy "cannot be replaced by dead imitation." Putin should feel like a gardener who turned his front garden "into a neat stone desert" for two decades. But all of a sudden this gardener sees with annoyance that the uncontrolled sprouts of politics have again climbed “out of every crack” - and threaten to destroy all the gardener's work. Weeding, which “has no end”, the journalist notes.



Walled up, demons!


Not only weeds are found in the Kremlin’s front garden. The “demons” are also approaching the political field.

Matthias Bruggmann told the wide western public about the "demons of crisis" (Die Dämonen der Krise) «Handelsblatt».

As the author recalls, Vladimir Putin took the premiere reins of 9 on August 1999 of the year. At that time, Russia was “hopelessly bogged down” in the reforms: shock therapy, the chaos of the Yeltsin years, the collapse of the ruble, the banking crisis and the almost undivided rule of the oligarchs. The country was suffering, millions of impoverished Russians were waiting for a miracle - the one who would save Russia. And they were told that this miracle would be "someone Vladimir Putin from St. Petersburg."

For many Russians, the years of overcoming the crisis described above became a “heroic epic”.

Putin is still in power. “The prime minister, president, prime minister, president,” the author lists, not without irony. Putin is in power "longer than Leonid Brezhnev, Secretary General of the CPSU Central Committee." Only Joseph Stalin kept the empire in control even longer - 31 year, continues the comparison of Bruggmann.

However, not everyone is sure that история Putin is a heroic epic, the author develops the idea. For some, he is “an impeccable democrat” (the opinion of former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder), for others, “just a despot.”

“The heroic years of Putin,” the author further points out, have passed. It seems that the "demons of crisis" that Putin once banished are returning. With projected economic growth of 1,2 and 1,7 percent this and next year, Russia is by far the latest in Eastern Europe. The Vienna Institute for International Economic Research sees Russia "on the brink of recession."

The increase in VAT, the shift in the retirement age and economic difficulties "annoy people" and increasingly destroy the "epic of Putin the hero." 21 million Russians live below the poverty line (14,3 percent of the population), the author points out. In Moscow, security forces “beat up peaceful demonstrators,” in Siberia, “forests burn,” the journalist says. In 2018, 18% of Russians were against Putin, today it is 38%. The trend, summarized by Bruggmann.



Judo instead of chess


Twenty years have passed since Vladimir Putin came to power, and recalls Angela Stent, director of the Center for Eurasian, Russian and East European Studies (Georgetown).

Mrs. Stent wrote an analytical article, “Putin Plays Judo, Not Chess” for "Wall Street Journal"in which she spoke about the difference between chess and judo.

“On 9 on August 1999,” says Stent, “the sick president Boris Yeltsin anointed his successor: a little-known former KGB agent was appointed fourth prime minister of Russia in seventeen months.”

Yeltsin said Putin guarantees reform in the country if he wins the presidential election in 2000.



In his two decades as president and prime minister, Putin has seen four US presidents and countless other world leaders “come and go,” Stent writes further. As for the reforms, after the first years in power, he “stopped” carrying them out. Putin has become "increasingly authoritarian." But “at the same time, he managed to restore Russia's role in the world arena, despite the decline in the economic power of his country” (GDP is lower than Italy’s, population is declining, infrastructure is obsolete, budget is dependent on energy exports, corruption is widespread, the analyst lists) . However, despite these obstacles, Russia "regained its place" in world politics and "again began to encroach on Western interests."

Americans tend to consider Russians “skilled chess players,” the author develops the idea. But Putin’s sport is not chess, but judo, Stent objects to the Americans. The Russian president himself "admitted that he was a bully in childhood, but martial arts took him off the street." In 1976, the Leningrad newspaper welcomed the 23-year-old “judoka Vladimir Putin”, who won the prestigious competition.

In judo, a weak-looking person can count on his inner strength, willpower and, as a result, on victory over a stronger opponent. One of the main methods is to bring the enemy off balance and use his temporary disorientation to inflict a victorious strike, Stent writes. Putin “proved his ability to seize opportunities”: the chaos of the West and the indecision of its leaders. He had a plan to restore Russia as a great power, and the United States did not have a comparable strategy in the post-Cold War era. Russia, the expert believes, "took advantage" to attack a stronger opponent.

Mr. Putin’s skills are “on display in the Middle East, where Russia has returned as a key player for the first time in three decades” and where it has erased B. Obama’s Syrian “red line”.

Putin sowed discord in NATO, drawing closer to Turkish President Erdogan, and with the acquisition by Turkey of the Russian-made C-400 system he “gained a big victory” over the West.

Mr Putin took advantage of the opportunity that arose after the growing trade war unleashed by the Trump administration with China. Putin expanded the Sino-Russian partnership and made Moscow "more needed" for Beijing by "strengthening military cooperation." Undoubtedly, Russia is a “junior partner” in these relations, if we recall the “asymmetry” between the economies of the Russian Federation and China. But Xi Jinping, the authoritarian leader of China, "never criticizes [Putin] and does not dispute his domestic policy." But China "is increasingly at odds with the United States."

Over his twenty years in the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin has proven himself to be a true “judo champion”. He has collected dividends from disagreements in the West, and he is ready for the next opportunity to strengthen Russia's international influence. He knows how to act, and knows how to act quickly.



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Champion outside, loser inside. Western analysts see Putin as something like this. The "junior partner" of China, which has sowed discord in NATO, and the leader-autocrat, before whom the "demons of crisis" loom. Yeltsin’s successor, whose years many Russians consider the “heroic epic”, and the gardener who cleared the “front garden” from weeds.
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  1. Far B 13 August 2019 05: 42 New
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    In our opinion, it would not hurt to give the following assessments of the situation in our country, voiced in 2009: "Twenty years of rapid transformation have not saved our country from humiliating raw material dependence." It was also stated that "our current economy ... largely ignores human needs." As a result, "every year we are becoming smaller." The author of these lines came to the following conclusion: “domestic business, with few exceptions, does not invent, does not create the things people need and technology. Trades in what was not done by him - raw materials or imported goods. Finished products manufactured in Russia, for the most part, are still extremely competitive. ” All this led to the fact that Russia is experiencing "greater than other economies decline in production during the current crisis."
    No less interesting are the discussions about the state of the Russian economy and social sphere that the whole country heard in 2012. It was stated that "more than a quarter of Russia's GDP is the result of the sale on the world market of gas, oil, metals, timber, and other raw materials ...". The situation is compounded by the fact that "today Russia depends on the global economy ... more than most other countries." All this is due to the fact that "in fact, we have experienced large-scale deindustrialization .... Hence the extremely high dependence on imports of consumer goods, technologies and complex products; from price fluctuations for major exported goods - that is, from factors that we, by and large, do not control. ” All this affects the social situation in the country. So, “many citizens cannot realize their professional knowledge, find a job that would allow them to have a decent salary and develop,” “social elevators work poorly and with great interruptions,” “income differentiation is provocatively large.” Based on the foregoing, it was concluded that “it is not permissible for Russia to have an economy that does not guarantee us stability, sovereignty, or decent welfare.”
    Who owns the relevant phrases? Do you think that these are the characteristics of the situation voiced by the representative of the Communist Party and the left-wing patriotic opposition? If someone reading these lines comes up with the idea that there is an attempt to “thicken the colors”, we will remind them that these are excerpts from Dmitry Medvedev’s article “Russia, Forward!” Published in 2009 in the Izvestia newspaper, as well as from articles published by Vedomosti and Komsomolskaya Pravda in early 2012 by Vladimir Putin's articles “We Need a New Economy” and “Building Justice. Social policy for Russia. ”

    And that’s all 20 years of Pu’s rule - trampling around and around, splashing with pens - like, oh, this is not good, it needs to be fixed! And we, spruce-burners, roll up our sleeves - and we fix everything! Ka-ak fucking that already galleys with anchors tore off!
    And nothing has changed.
    Cho speak, he knows how to work in public.
    1. Greenwood 13 August 2019 05: 47 New
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      Quote: Far In
      Cho speak, he knows how to work in public.
      Can not. Remember his stumbling speech in the 90s. Never had oratorical abilities. This is now his PR team pulled up to a certain level.
      1. Far B 13 August 2019 05: 53 New
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        You will recall how Darkin spoke before his first governorship))) Nothing - he hired an artist, he was given a speech - and Seryoga Shepelyavy became respected Sergei Mikhalych)
        The ability to speak beautifully is a bit tantamount to the ability to give oneself. Putin is exactly what gives himself away. Only behind this feed is rarely something worthwhile located.
        1. Ross xnumx 13 August 2019 06: 39 New
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          Quote: Far In
          Only behind this feed is rarely something worthwhile located.

          Behind this feed is a man without a past (without a future, too), without kinship and meaningful affairs before he is placed in the place of a successor. And even Ksenia does not know his Sobchakov-Chubais past. The direct earthly embodiment of the prophecy:
          “Everything will melt like ice, and only one thing will remain untouched - the glory of Vladimir, the glory of Russia. Too much sacrificed. No one can stop Russia. Everything will be swept away from its path and not only preserved, but also become the ruler of the world».

          One trouble - we are still fighting for the right to be called the - th economy of the world ... request
          1. Stirbjorn 13 August 2019 08: 38 New
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            Quote: ROSS 42
            The direct earthly embodiment of the prophecy:

            Throw you all these "prophecies." When they do not come true (and this happens regularly), everyone safely forget about them. I remember everybody shaking one about Ukraine - like the first year of chaos (2014), the second war (2015), and the third will be the Russian tsar (2016)! Here is the prophecy fellow
            1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 09: 42 New
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              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Quote: ROSS 42
              The direct earthly embodiment of the prophecy:

              Throw you all these "prophecies." When they do not come true (and this happens regularly), everyone safely forget about them. I remember everybody shaking one about Ukraine - like the first year of chaos (2014), the second war (2015), and the third will be the Russian tsar (2016)! Here is the prophecy fellow

              Yes, these are all prophecies, primarily the Fed itself. Media and promote when the time comes and the rest of the arguments are not found. Some programs about Wang’s predictions are worth something, that just a little more is left to tolerate and kaaa-ka will come, a bright future. Predictions are turned around the channels from year to year, but in contrast to their content, what has already been very clear on the horizon of the not-too-distant future hardly matches these predictions.

              PS In the next two years, buckwheat with carcass (to stay out of the crisis) will be much more relevant than bouquets of flowers to celebrate victories and breakthroughs. laughing
        2. Greenwood 13 August 2019 06: 49 New
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          Of course, I remember Darkin. That same fruit was. However, the current ones are even worse.
        3. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 08: 06 New
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          Yes, if you recall that his PR team showed us all these years?
          Cranes, jugs, as he sits at the helm of a fighter, riding a horse with a naked torso, next to a tiger, and the like go ... but all sorts of crap, meaning nothing to the country, but trying to exalt Putin's personality. ALL.
          1. Far B 13 August 2019 08: 12 New
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            The main thing is to wrap it in a beautiful wrapper and serve it correctly, but what’s inside, sweetie or ... - go figure it out. People hawala. What is strange - many are still hawking, despite the already obvious smell from under this very wrapper.
          2. New Year day 13 August 2019 10: 45 New
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            Quote: Vasilyev u
            ... all crap, meaning nothing for the country, but trying to exalt the personality of Putin.

            and all for his victory in a box over an unreasonable population! How can he, the people, entrust power. She, power, belongs to him, the chosen one.
            In fact, he is lying to all of us, including about power. He is dependent on her; he cannot live without her. Therefore, at the "request" of the working people
        4. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 09: 17 New
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          Quote: Far In
          The ability to speak beautifully is a bit tantamount to the ability to give oneself.

          The main thing that a person does is appreciate him for his deeds.
          1. lis-ik 13 August 2019 14: 29 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Far In
            The ability to speak beautifully is a bit tantamount to the ability to give oneself.

            The main thing that a person does is appreciate him for his deeds.

            Well, if for business, then probably burn in hell.
        5. Chaldon48 13 August 2019 09: 57 New
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          The fact that he is a smart person and has a good memory, no one will deny. And with such qualities, he has gained invaluable experience. And having it, he can analyze his own and others' mistakes.
          1. New Year day 13 August 2019 10: 46 New
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            Quote: Chaldon48
            And with such qualities, he has gained invaluable experience. And having it, he can analyze his own and others' mistakes.

            experience is, there is no result. Where is his work on bugs?
          2. Revival 13 August 2019 13: 14 New
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            If everything is correct in your commentary, then it means that the goals and objectives of his "little" are not the ones that the people are striving for.
            Otherwise, how to connect that everyone knows everything remembers, but does not !?
          3. Gardamir 13 August 2019 15: 18 New
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            has a good memory
            Most likely good headphones.
          4. Svetlana 14 August 2019 20: 53 New
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            Quote: Chaldon48
            The fact that he is a smart person and has a good memory, no one will deny. And with such qualities, he has gained invaluable experience. And having it, he can analyze his own and others' mistakes.

            Many deny it. What he promised to people on previous “direct lines” forgets each time.
            1. Chaldon48 15 August 2019 16: 40 New
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              Putin is not a magician and cannot solve all problems alone, but the fact that there are people who offer resistance, I think, is no secret to anyone.
      2. Vasily Ponomarev 13 August 2019 06: 11 New
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        yes, without a leaf speaks of poor worms yes about windmills
        1. Chaldon48 16 August 2019 13: 44 New
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          That would probably be a joy if he with an idiotic stupid face muttered a piece of paper.
      3. Svarog 13 August 2019 09: 09 New
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        Cho speak, he knows how to work in public.

        Only to the public and works .. For the oligarchs. And the population of Russia hangs noodles on the ears in tons. Let's remember what he promised and did not .. In any country in the world, a politician who promises something is called for, is responsible for his promises, but not with us.
        1. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 09: 21 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          In any country in the world, a policy that promises something is called to account for its promises.

          It would be interesting to know how these countries are called; where is someone condemned?
          1. Cat man null 13 August 2019 09: 39 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            It would be interesting to know how these countries are called; where is someone condemned?

            They told you authoritatively:

            Quote: Svarog
            In any country in the world

            I poke into the globe, I get ... in Zimbabwe, for example. Or even in SyShyA laughing

            Advocates, they, damn it, are such ... propagandists request
            1. Revival 13 August 2019 13: 33 New
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              For example, in the USA ...
              Do not try to perform is not re-elected. Look at Trump out of his way to be re-elected, and this is another question, but if he had just spoken and sat right after the election, he would have flown by guarantee.
              And we can even give the word publicly, a man praises the pier saying he gave the word he kept, and then blown away publicly.
              May decrees, to whom decrees? Nothing has been done, these decrees are openly declared unrealistic, we will not implement them, and as a result, "the government works well, I am satisfied."
              1. Cat man null 13 August 2019 13: 58 New
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                Once again, the original pitch:

                Quote: Svarog
                In any country in the world, a politician who promises something is called to account for his promises

                Your

                Quote: Revival
                Do not try to perform, not re-elected

                - the meaning is somewhat different from the original. Then you just talk with a good conversationalist ... with yourself, that is.
                1. Revival 13 August 2019 16: 37 New
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                  Firstly, it was not a matter of the fact that he was directly shot without fail, non-election is also a responsibility. Here you quietly merged. Counted! Once again. As with the "pre-bankruptcy" of the Uralvagonzavod))), where you pretended to be nonsense, and when you received the link, they quietly quietly faded the confirmation.
                  Secondly, your comments are always designed in the style of ostentatious cynicism and are fully aimed at distracting people from discussion and eroding the issue under discussion.
                  Unfortunately, people still pay attention to you, although this is understandable, they always react to a provocateur, wasting time.
                  The maximum meaning of your comments is "where is better? Nowhere! And no one owes you anything" ... and you are all ungrateful, and everything is fine with us ... ".
                  Ringing emptiness ...
                  1. Cat man null 13 August 2019 21: 21 New
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                    Quote: Revival
                    plant subscriber

                    laughing good laughing

                    Quote: Revival
                    Ringing emptiness ...

                    Well, ring yourselves further ... it’s necessary to roll such a sheet just to praise yourself, your beloved, once again laughing
                2. gaura 14 August 2019 12: 04 New
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                  I agree with you! Here, and commentators for their maaaaalenkie words are not able to answer, but poke Putin holy)))
          2. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 09: 48 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Svarog
            In any country in the world, a policy that promises something is called to account for its promises.

            It would be interesting to know how these countries are called; where is someone condemned?

            Why have you been convicted? It’s just that politicians whose promises differ too much from their deeds do not linger on the main post for long. Change in the election and all.
            And if it is necessary that one of the highest persons would certainly be condemned, then of course there isn’t. For corruption of presidents and prime ministers, yes, they attract them. hi
            1. Victor N 13 August 2019 10: 37 New
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              It turns out that your estimates are not correct - Putin has been re-elected many times. You think, it's time ....
              1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 10: 48 New
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                Quote: Victor N
                It turns out that your estimates are not correct - Putin has been re-elected many times. You think, it's time ....

                So I'm not talking about the Russian Federation. And what are the “elections” in the Russian Federation (elections without a choice), well, by God, there’s no desire today to wash this topic.
                You can simply write that you believe in fair elections in the Russian Federation and that’s it. I laugh, many laugh, and you yourself, while no one sees, will smile. hi
                1. Victor N 13 August 2019 12: 25 New
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                  Not at all! Elections are very serious. In eastern Ukraine, elections were neglected; in the west, turnout was always greater. And their representation in government was great. Observe the result. Mankind has not come up with a better tool for political struggle than elections.
                  1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 12: 43 New
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                    Quote: Victor N
                    Not at all! Elections are very serious. In eastern Ukraine, elections were neglected; in the west, turnout was always greater. And their representation in government was great. Observe the result. Mankind has not come up with a better tool for political struggle than elections.

                    You do not understand me correctly. I am not against the election, I am FOR. But the election should really work, and not cover up lawlessness, when only one name remains from the election.
                    And since A. Chaly is unlikely to be written down as liberals, I’ll therefore give an example of the situation with the Rodin party, and not with A. Navalny (source from Crimea. Realities):
                    The Moscow-controlled Sevastopol election commission did not allow the lists of Russian non-parliamentary parties, Rodina and Greens, to be elected to the local parliament. The reason is trivial - errors in the design of the signature sheets and the signatures themselves, which the candidates were forced to collect in order to take part in the electoral campaign.
                    Grigory Donets, a candidate from the Rodina party, told the Crimea correspondent. Realies marriage details:
                    “At the end of the subscription sheet there is a special column that the signature collector fills out. There he leaves his personal data, and there he had to write the date of his birth. There was no column in our subscription sheet for the date of birth, because the wrong sample of the subscription sheet was downloaded from the CEC website. There are two samples in total: for municipal elections where this column is not, and for regional elections where this column is. The rest of the samples are identical.. Yes, this is our oversight, but it is purely formal, because all data on signature collectors is still provided in an election commission, this data has a date of birth, they are notarized. So the lack of graphs, from my point of view, is crocheting ”

                    PS Well, how do you like such an election? There are doubts that if it were not for this landslide, which does not essentially change anything, there would be NO claims to the collected signatures themselves, would they find another clue? Therefore, I am personally in favor of the elections, but of course only in a situation where they really exist. hi
                    1. Dante Alighieri 13 August 2019 19: 50 New
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                      It was funnier for us: an active but naive young man decided to go into politics and change the world in the person of a single city, but since he did not associate himself with any political forces, but wanted to really help the inhabitants of his native city, he went into this very policy self-nominated path. How many times have they hinted to him that this is not good and that he should have joined someone, the boy did not agree and continued to gain the required number of votes with a quiet glanders. From this moment, administrative obstacles began. The first argument of the local CEC concerned the signatures, namely, the committee members were warned that some of the signatures were circled twice (I’ll explain: it was winter, before the introduction of a single voting day in September there were another five years and the elections were held when the next mandate expired, the pen in the cold (and it’s at least about southern, but still Siberia) it was banal to write poorly and people twice circled their initials). Naturally, this was regarded as a forgery. The guy, however, did not save, because as a lawyer he learned something, and therefore ordered a handwriting examination, which decided: the specified “violation” is not fake or falsification, since it was committed by the citizen who left the signature and does not entail a change in the semantic load. Do you think that figures of the then Central Election Commission stopped? No matter how, but to confess, they thought what to do with the obstinate self-nominee for a long time. As a result, the next “ingenious” move came into someone’s bright mind. My city is called Barnaul and more cities in our country with this name does not occur. Consequently, Barnaul is a proper name and it is not necessary to specify it in conjunction: Altai Territory, Barnaul, which is spelled out in paragraph 1 of Art. 1 of the Charter of the urban district - the city of Barnaul of the Altai Territory. Namely: “The full name of the municipality is“ city district - the city of Barnaul of the Altai Territory. ”The abbreviated name of the municipality is“ the city of Barnaul. ”Full and abbreviated names are equivalent.” This rule is valid without exception in all legal acts, at least take a foreign one. the passport of the author of these lines and it should be noted that there have never been any problems with customs. However, as the most perspicacious readers guessed, it was precisely the absence of an indication of the Altai Territory in the subscription lists that became the basis for the refusal to register the unfortunate self-nominee as a future candidate. To a completely logical protest with references to the norms of the legislation that allowed such a reduction, the answer was peremptory in its "resourcefulness": The right to vote is a special legal system that is not subject to the norms of the rest of the legislation, and therefore the designation of the city of Barnaul without the name of the region is a violation of the rules of this very election law. The quote, of course, is not accurate, but in terms of semantic passage as close as possible to the original. So, when the next time you suddenly start talking about the legitimacy of the election, remember that this "special legal system" and everything will fall into place)))))
            2. gaura 14 August 2019 12: 13 New
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              Those. is your whole goal to change Putin? Will we replace him and heal? How does your song coincide with the song of any bulk, pseudo-communists and even American people. No one offers anything but "plant corrupt officials" and other chants. But everyone goes to the need to remove Putin
        2. New Year day 13 August 2019 10: 48 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Let's remember what he promised and did not ..

          laughing well, you give! Promises for that and give, so as not to fulfill them. Only decent and honest people keep their promise. But this is not our case.
          1. Den1989 13 August 2019 14: 25 New
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            Not yours, for sure.
            1. Ehanatone 14 August 2019 02: 23 New
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              "Not yours, for sure."
              30 years old, decent people to these years with the brains of a breeder.
              1. Den1989 14 August 2019 12: 32 New
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                "30 years old, decent people to these years with the brains of a landlord"
                You are clearly not one of those.
                1. CT-55_11-9009 18 August 2019 18: 16 New
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                  Rude to all interlocutors half-heartedly is a sign of bad manners, not strength.
                  1. Den1989 21 August 2019 13: 42 New
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                    I answered rudeness to rudeness. A sign of bad manners is to get into other people's conversations.
    2. syndicalist 13 August 2019 06: 52 New
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      . And that’s all 20 years of Pu’s rule - stomping around

      There is no trampling. The most powerful rollback in all areas, with the exception of the military. Missed a unique opportunity for the country to become a world leader. Four trillion dollars received due to increased prices for raw materials are not just put to the wind, but are trivially plundered by a narrow circle of associates.
      And successes in strengthening the army in the near future will result in the same degradation caused by the degradation of science and education.
      1. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 07: 13 New
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        '' Rosneft Record Board Awards

        Rosneft’s board members received remuneration of 2,36 billion rubles in the first half of 2019, which is 12% more than in the same period last year.

        Salaries amounted to 405,5 million rubles, bonuses - 1,447 billion, remuneration for participation in the work of the management body - 57,8 million rubles, travel and other payments - 449 million rubles.

        The board of Rosneft includes 11 people - Igor Sechin, chief executive officer, as well as key vice presidents and top managers of the company. Rosneft allocated RUB 2018 billion for dividends for 274,6, exceeding the 2017 figure by 2,5 times.

        Rosneft's net profit according to Russian Accounting Standards (RAS) for the first half of 2019 amounted to 165,19 billion rubles against 385,6 billion rubles for the same period last year amid a change in the management structure '
        Telegram, Compromising 2.0
        1. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 09: 44 New
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          Quote: Vasilyev u
          Salaries amounted to 405,5 million rubles, bonuses - 1,447 billion, remuneration for participation in the work of the management body - 57,8 million rubles, travel and other payments - 449 million rubles.

          Interestingly, what would I.V. Stalin say about this?
          1. Uncle lee 13 August 2019 10: 17 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Vasilyev u
            Salaries amounted to 405,5 million rubles, bonuses - 1,447 billion, remuneration for participation in the work of the management body - 57,8 million rubles, travel and other payments - 449 million rubles.

            Interestingly, what would I.V. Stalin say about this?

          2. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 19 New
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            Quote: tihonmarine
            Interestingly, what would I.V. Stalin say about this?

            I think that instead of Stalin, the word would be made by Mauser
      2. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 07: 44 New
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        What industry revived under it?
        Space?
        Agriculture? If not for sanctions, then s / s would have died in agony long ago. Agricultural production in our country is slowly being revived, not thanks to Putin and the government, but in spite of them. Maybe remember about the palm tree, how people poison?
        Industry?
        Automotive industry?
        Aircraft manufacturing?
        Shipbuilding? Yachts are sacred and not ours.
        What has RESURRECTED UNDER PUTIN?
        1. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 07: 55 New
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          https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/zarplaty-top-menedzherov-gazproma-rosnefti-i-sberbanka-prevysili-godovoy-byudzhet-dvukh-regionov-rossii-1027954324
          Salaries of top managers of Gazprom, Rosneft and Sberbank exceeded the annual budget of two regions of Russia
          The board members of three state corporations together earned 11,9 billion rubles over the year — more than Kalmykia and the Jewish Autonomous Region. For 2018 year and their 36 people.
          1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 08: 07 New
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            Quote: Vasilyev u
            The board members of three state corporations together earned 11,9 billion rubles over the year — more than Kalmykia and the Jewish Autonomous Region. For 2018 year and their 36 people.

            C'mon roll a barrel on them. Look at our lop-sided footballers from Zenit, like half of the budget of the Leningrad Region for sick leave.
        2. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 08: 07 New
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          I still haven’t forgotten the taste of “Bush legs”, kenguryatins in briquettes (similar to a dog-dog). Some of them also ate pigeons. I don’t know what we have revived or failed there. Not too sweet the past few years, but I remember the nineties with horror. If the "terrible" Putin "rotted" us and "ruined" these twenty years, then it is strange that we are still alive
          1. Aleksandr21 13 August 2019 09: 36 New
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            Quote: igorbrsv
            Not too sweet the past few years, but I remember the nineties with horror.


            Nobody denies Putin’s merits in overcoming the crisis in the 90s, but each ruler is good for his time, if the GDP had gone in due time and didn’t start what’s called bronze and make the state for himself and his team of friends, then he would remain in history the man who saved Russia and many generations would have remembered his merits, and now he is an authoritarian leader who, with friends, cleared the political field in Russia and takes care of the interests of his inner circle. Although this is probably not his main mistake (but one of them) ... if the GDP, after overcoming the crisis in the 90s, would have put money into the development of the economy (from the sale of resources), IMHO of course, but it is thought that many people would have come to terms with this situation since the oligarchs used to be before, but if money were poured into the economy, the welfare of the people would grow and people would really see that their country was developing, and what was the result? Part of the money was stolen, part went to the support of banks and other moneybags (if I was not mistaken it was 2008-2010), another part was invested in American securities / bonds + something went to blowing dust (Sochi Olympics, World Cup football, etc.) and, in general, there were crumbs ..... there was no modernization of the economy + sanctions were imposed by the West (no one likes competitors) and we have come to the conclusion that we have now, an increase in VAT, retirement age, all possible taxes and other, other .... and for which the people should be grateful to the government and to the president in particular? because the economy is now close to a recession?
            1. Victor N 13 August 2019 10: 57 New
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              Aleksandr21 - Give you plenty of money - how will you develop the economy? Ready? I am not ready: there are no constructive ideas, but I KNOW clearly about the difficulties of real business. Among close friends there are no capable ones either - spectators and detractors. Are your friends capable of entrepreneurial exploits?
              1. ROBIN-SON 13 August 2019 12: 08 New
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                90% of critics demand to restore / build factories. Thus create jobs. And what will these plants produce? And who will buy it? Of course, close the import. Then they will buy. Cheeses are buying now, what are they made of. Do you want this?
                If we create autocracy, we will certainly live. But will everyone like it? And from we will become forever from advanced countries.
                The trouble with GDP is that it cannot / does not want to renew its environment, which lives in comfortable conditions and their motto is enough for our age. When he spoke before the elections and announced the need for a breakthrough, many supported him. But alas. People then thought that there would be a new PM that would lead a new team. But we don’t make our own ..... As a result, we are all passengers of the Titanic, some in deluxe suites, some in cabins below the waterline.
                1. Victor N 13 August 2019 12: 32 New
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                  The assessment of production and sales problems is correct. It ruins (slows down) the economy is an extremely wrong, negative attitude in society towards entrepreneurs: SOMEONE do not know how to develop the economy and do not want to. Yes, even many do not want to EARN - just GET. This is our main misfortune.
                  1. ROBIN-SON 13 August 2019 14: 39 New
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                    I live in St. Petersburg. I remember the 90s. That's when entrepreneurs had a bad attitude from the population. They burned stalls, etc. Now people don’t give a damn who is who. I think the problem is in lawmaking. Officials (and their legion) need to show their need and they invent new ones. Take the laws on beds, deadwood, etc. True, in a month or a year they forget them. new ones appear.
                    But this is a minefield where you can explode at any time. That’s why people don’t go. They are afraid of punishment and do not believe in tomorrow. I think so, this field no longer provides opportunities for shipping. The new government will have to trawl it. The question is different, but will we live to see the new?
              2. Aleksandr21 13 August 2019 15: 06 New
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                Quote: Victor N
                Aleksandr21 - Give you plenty of money - how will you develop the economy? Ready? I am not ready: there are no constructive ideas, but I KNOW clearly about the difficulties of real business. Among close friends there are no capable ones either - spectators and detractors. Are your friends capable of entrepreneurial exploits?


                Victor, and who is to blame for the fact that it is so tight with entrepreneurship? Especially if you look at a small or medium business that is barely breathing from taxes / and various requisitions and a huge bureaucracy. Or take for example a large business that in our country is closely connected with the authorities in which the family, relatives, acquaintances of big cones sit ...... what am I for, there are enough talented people in our country, and among my acquaintances there are entrepreneurs who they are engaged in small business, but all the possible barriers hinder business, and if someone out there is engaged in small business in our country, then this is more likely contrary to the system i.e. a lot of obstacles. And the situation in the economy, when people just have food left for food, also hits hard on small businesses.

                As for me personally, whether I am ready to develop the economy .... if I’m talking about entrepreneurship, I’m not ready (to be honest), but once again I will say that in our country there are a lot of talented people and the state’s task is to help them, and not create obstacles.
                1. Victor N 14 August 2019 10: 18 New
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                  Government assistance is needed, but control is also needed: a normal businessman is always looking for a way to minimize taxes and expenses. Therefore, it will always be the object of censure. But society must also value determination, the ability to achieve difficult goals, overcoming any difficulties. And here cultural workers do not work - no books, no films, no poems with songs. But, daredevils, they feed fairly well from the master's table ......
            2. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 10: 59 New
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              What is Putin's merit after the 90s?
              That oil has risen wildly in price? This is all his alleged merits due to expensive oil.
              Has crime decreased?
              Only due to the fact that criminals from the 90s decided not to grow new lawlessnesses, they kept it in the bud (if it was not their lawlessnesses, remember the hoes and their bunch with Moscow prosecutors, the joint business of their wives). Why did rats that had reached power needed new rivals? Forgotten when the bankers began to shoot, they collected their gangway to decide how to stop it? Because it became insulting, they are with power and with money, and their new rat rats are straining and shooting.
          2. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 09: 57 New
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            Quote: igorbrsv
            I still haven’t forgotten the taste of “Bush legs”, kenguryatins in briquettes (similar to a dog-dog). Some of them also ate pigeons. I don’t know what we have revived or failed there. Not too sweet the past few years, but I remember the nineties with horror. If the "terrible" Putin "rotted" us and "ruined" these twenty years, then it is strange that we are still alive

            Well, not everyone is already so much alive. About the rate of extinction of the population of the Russian Federation did not, did not hear?
            About the economic growth of the 2000s. About oil prices in the region of 150 and above not heard? And the high oil prices ended, and with them all the well-being of the population (namely the population, not Mr. P.’s friends). So, where is the high oil price, please indicate the merit of Mr. P.?
            Some and pigeons ate

            Well, some are already eating from garbage containers, as you put it. Do you think it’s better?
          3. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 24 New
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            Quote: igorbrsv
            Some of them also ate pigeons. I don’t know what we have revived or failed there. Not too sweet the past few years, but I remember the nineties with horror.

            About five years ago I saw one comrade who was crawling in the thickets of bird cherry.
            - What are you doing?
            - Yes, Vova, I want to make a slingshot, shoot pigeons ... request
          4. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 22 New
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            Quote: igorbrsv
            I still haven’t forgotten the taste of “Bush legs”, kenguryatins in briquettes (similar to a dog-dog). Some of them also ate pigeons.

            Yes, there was a problem with money, now many have money. and 20 million still do not have them, but with your money you buy palm oil, a cape with antibiotics, etc. crap.
            Quote: igorbrsv
            ... nineties remember with horror ...


            and 20 million people still live in them
            1. Victor N 13 August 2019 12: 38 New
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              Gosstat calculates the poor by official income, money is not counted in envelopes. The real poor are much fewer - do not pour yourself salt on spiritual wounds.
              1. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 14: 00 New
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                I can confirm. Part in envelopes. And he himself recently filed for subsidies, although "for garlic" is not appropriate for me, if not for the envelopes
              2. naidas 13 August 2019 20: 14 New
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                Gosstat calculates the poor on official income

                This is offset by the poverty level. According to the State Statistics Service, the poor have 350 rubles per day or less. (Food, communal, clothing, travel, etc.)
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            2. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 11: 02 New
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              He is not supposed to ban, he is 'chosen' on this site.
              You just don’t need to pay attention to him, you just need to let everything pass from his ears.
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          3. Loess 13 August 2019 10: 30 New
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            Ah, telegram, telegram, noise in the head.

            YouTube is no longer in trend, however ...
        4. Squelcher 13 August 2019 08: 19 New
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          They probably forgot how the army looked in the 90s, quickly forgot salaries and pensions unpaid for a year, forgot bandits and shooting at night? They forgot buckwheat during the crisis, they put out matches for candles, and in the 15th volume they ran to buy audio equipment, forgot drooling when they saw really branded clothes, quickly forgot chemical sausages and doshirak, and I did not forget when, with both parents working, only bread and pasta were from food .
          1. Greenwood 13 August 2019 08: 47 New
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            Suggest Putin bow to the legs? So now the service sector is much better developed, the business has developed compared to the 90s and most importantly, oil prices are many times higher than in the 90s.
            Quote: Squelcher
            forgot the bandits
            They are now sitting in deputies, or they control the entire small and medium business, especially in the regions.
            1. Squelcher 13 August 2019 09: 05 New
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              The funny thing is that the opposition absolutely makes extremely stupid and stupid statements, although it presents itself as intellectuals:) Even you, on your question, it turns out that
              are bandyuki people like Karelin, Kabaeva, Chilingarov? Do you want to know the composition of the State Duma? Oh, and it turns out that the State Duma representatives from the Communist Party too?
              1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 34 New
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                Quote: Squelcher
                are bandyuki people like Karelin, Kabaeva, Chilingarov? Do you want to know the composition of the State Duma?

                But what about. One Scotch tape comes to mind.
              2. Revival 13 August 2019 14: 01 New
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                Arashukovs ....
          2. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 10: 23 New
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            Quote: Squelcher
            They probably forgot how the army looked in the 90s, quickly forgot salaries and pensions unpaid for a year, forgot bandits and shooting at night? They forgot buckwheat during the crisis, they put out matches for candles, and in the 15th volume they ran to buy audio equipment, forgot drooling when they saw really branded clothes, quickly forgot chemical sausages and doshirak, and I did not forget when, with both parents working, only bread and pasta were from food .

            And you want, I will tell you about today's people, I myself know a few now. Who is at two jobs. And all one money is not enough. One speaks and would settle on the third, but physically I can’t.
            And who now also has enough for pasta and bread.
            And about the bandits. Well, if you are bored, I have a delicious video. Kaluga, our days:
            Pay attention to an object similar to an automatic machine taken out of the trunk, how do you like it?
            Ah, these are not those bandits, not such a night, there are no crimson jackets and gold chains? Yes, and just dance, blocking the intersection, using a car and an automatic machine.
            But if someone had rocked out of those who were blocked in the stream, then maybe the machine would have been seen in action. And so, only dancing.

            PS Kaluga, our days. There are no more bandits, only the guns really remained. Stability, 2020s. To that and went. yes
            1. Squelcher 13 August 2019 11: 16 New
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              The country is poor with the highest percentage of Internet users. Stability is the rules of the game if you can’t want to, play, send - do not send the judge to the soap, you won’t be able to win.
              About the showdown.
              Do we live in an ideal society without criminals and without inadequacies, what do you have every day? And how many people were injured? And compared with Vladivostok 90 is just dust.
              1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 11: 45 New
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                Quote: Squelcher
                The country is poor with the highest percentage of Internet users. Stability is the rules of the game if you can’t want to, play, send - do not send the judge to the soap, you won’t be able to win.
                About the showdown.
                Do we live in an ideal society without criminals and without inadequacies, what do you have every day? And how many people were injured? And compared with Vladivostok 90 is just dust.

                How is the Internet related to wealth or poverty? Now it is the same routine and necessity that in the economy, that in personal communication (source TheBiggest.ru):
                Over the past twenty years, the number of Internet users worldwide has risen sharply. If this indicator were identical to the growth of economic efficiency, it could be argued that the standard of living in most countries improved during the same period. In fact, in some countries, for example, Bangladesh and Nigeria, the number of Internet users has increased to 40%.

                Stability is good when its vector is directed to the top. And when down, there’s nothing to rejoice about. Please see for yourself the indicators of the past few years: population decline, income decline, everything is steadily worsening. So decide for yourself where such today's rules of the game will lead you further.
                And I will give you my vision too: someone to confront the power, someone with a brush in the gateway. Everyone needs to eat and survive, but all this problem will be solved in different ways (well, of course, someone will put up and quietly eke out their existence). But those who are "on the barricades" and those who are in troubled waters of unrest with a brush will be enough.

                Therefore, soon, almost like the Mummies of the troll, a new one awaits you, compared to Vladivostok 1990 - Vladivostok 2020 (and the whole country too).

                PS Because stability and its vector of development are just that. And yes, in the 90s in Voronezh (I am Voronezh), this was not at crossroads in the open. This is something new already. hi
              2. krops777 13 August 2019 17: 13 New
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                Do we live in an ideal society without criminals and without inadequacies, what do you have every day?


                You are right in the United States (the hegemon of democracy) crime is many times higher.
                1. Fan-fan 13 August 2019 18: 33 New
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                  And in Ukraine it’s even higher, probably, and in Chad it’s even higher, and in Libya, Yemen, etc. even higher crime.
                  1. krops777 14 August 2019 07: 22 New
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                    And in Ukraine it’s even higher, probably, and in Chad it’s even higher, and in Libya, Yemen, etc. even higher crime


                    Read carefully, the United States is the beacon of democracy and all the right things (sarcasm of course), but the countries you named are not.
          3. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 30 New
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            Quote: Squelcher
            and in 15 that audio-video equipment ran to buy,

            Who ran it?
            Quote: Squelcher
            quickly forgot chemical sausages and doshirak,

            Yes, they are now. Go to Pyaterochka, bread at 11 rubles instantly bought up.
            Quote: Squelcher
            but I did not forget when, with both parents working, only bread and pasta were from food.

            What did your parents do? When we gave a four-apartment to a bate, on 84 a square, for four, we completely furnished it all.
            1. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 11: 14 New
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              Sorry, but I interfere. I don’t know who his parents worked for, but we were not always able to buy bread. And in 2015 I went for equipment, just in case. I saw and now people rummage through garbage cans, very rarely "not soaked". You can say, of course, they drink it from a difficult life, but one can justify any. It is rare to see a person in a garbage can whom you can sympathize with. Not everything is good in our life, but everything in comparison is known. So it turns out that now it’s worse than we would like, better than in the nineties (probably not for everyone winked ), and I would like to go back to the USSR request
              1. Squelcher 13 August 2019 11: 23 New
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                The USSR made a huge mistake wasting money to support various African regimes by investing money and industry in our brothers, both eastern and western, who are happy to spit in our face and back.
              2. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 11: 24 New
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                Quote: igorbrsv
                And I went to 2015 for equipment, just in case.

                I did not go. I didn’t have any savings in the 2015 year, I spent the last 20 bucks in the 98 year.
                Quote: igorbrsv
                It is rare to see a person in a garbage can whom you can sympathize with.

                Just the day before yesterday, my grandmother was digging. Already then it can not be compared with the homeless.
                Quote: igorbrsv
                I would like to go back to the USSR

                And identity too! Beer at 22 kopeks per liter, cigarettes at 19 kopeks .. laughing
                1. Squelcher 13 August 2019 12: 54 New
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                  I saw drunks in the trash, in 90 I saw grandmothers of pensioners in 90 often, now grandmothers mostly come to clinics for free examinations only.
                  And I thought you regret that higher education was free and affordable in the USSR :(. And not business beer and cigarettes, you see what a "bloody" cigarette regime and beer is expensive.
                  1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 13: 04 New
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                    I saw drunks in the trash, in 90 I saw grandmothers of pensioners in 90 often, now grandmothers mostly come to clinics for free examinations only.

                    Yeah. It was like a medical examination was taking place, so there was no cramping from grandmothers there. A friend sits with a crutch, and swears: "Have I got a leg to grow up?" A comrade ensign sits with a shot member, he is ashamed of his girls every year to show, but have to.
                2. Simargl 13 August 2019 18: 59 New
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                  Beer at 22 cents per liter, cigarettes at 19 cents ..
                  So you want beer for 22 kopecks and whitefish for 19 ?!
                  I thought - worry about the quality of life!
                  And you can make beer for 2 cents: there is such a chip - a denomination. Here it is, now, 1: 1000 to spend and everything will be as you want: and beer for 22 cents, and s / n 120 r.
                  1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 19: 05 New
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                    there is such a feature - denomination.

                    Hehe. I remember how this bearded clown from Sberbank was broadcasting: "our computers are hanging, we need to remove three zeros ..."
                3. VeteranVSSSR 13 August 2019 23: 40 New
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                  Brother you're wrong
                  -22 cop. a glass of 0,5 l
                  -cigarettes prima-14 kopecks., smoke -16 kopecks., Astra, I do not remember, but for 19 kopecks., well, there was nothing ...
                  1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 23: 50 New
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                    Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                    22 cop. 0,5 L glass

                    Liter. repeat A liter cost from 22 to 24 a penny. But how much cigarettes were, I don’t remember, Visit - 45 cents like, Marlboro - fifty rubles ... sad
                    1. VeteranVSSSR 14 August 2019 09: 57 New
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                      Bottle ,, Zhigulevskogo '' 37 kopeks - 12 kopeks (collateral price of a container) = 25 kopeks, and for bottling 22 kopeks.
            2. Squelcher 13 August 2019 11: 21 New
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              Docker and technologist at the factory. And your accidentally non-party workers or trade can from the trade union?
              1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 11: 33 New
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                And your accidentally non-party workers or trade can from the trade union?

                Not. Father - locksmith, with a salary of 250 rubles, mother - a cashier worked with a salary of 120. So what? I was personally given a ticket to the Crimea when I was a student, so I refused it.
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                  An experienced engineer received 150-170 rubles. The teacher at the school, with all additional payments, is about 150 rubles.
                  Cool 250r locksmith, and what you went to students?
                  Thank you did not take into account this factor, another reason for the collapse of the USSR.
                  1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 12: 55 New
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                    An experienced engineer received 150-170 rubles.

                    I have an uncle - an engineer, I received 140, and somehow I managed to save up for five thousand, and I also bought tape recorders of the highest class.
                    Quote: Squelcher
                    Cool 250r locksmith, and what you went to students?

                    Which students? Dad arranged for me at the same factory, the salary was five times more than that of the ensign.
                    1. Squelcher 13 August 2019 21: 20 New
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                      And now it’s understandable why in 1994 in Sapporo at the station in the toilets there were installed auto drains on photocells and doors were automated in stores (I like a savage handle and did I look for a flush button). In the USSR I had to wipe it with a newspaper, because I could not find paper.
                      1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 21: 31 New
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                        Quote: Squelcher
                        And now it’s clear why in the 1994 year in Sapporo at the station in the toilets were installed

                        In 94, the tremors were in 25 cents, if sclerosis does not change me. In the 89-th half of Moscow went around to cast. Like Cossack robbers, tablets hung on the houses: “the toilet is straight”, “the toilet is to the right” ... Two kilometers passed until this toilet was found. sad Ah, photocells? So in my opinion they appeared at the cooperators back in the late 80's
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          What has RESURRECTED UNDER PUTIN?

          Extreme corruption, incredible propaganda, theft of unprecedented proportions, laws do not work, like courts, the monopoly of power, money earned in Russia all flows abroad and is not invested in the economy, environmental standards are not respected (bees die in large numbers, rivers become shallow, there are no fish in rivers or it is all infected with parasites), the terrible quality of food, paid and inaccessible medicine to many ... in general, it takes a long time to list the whole mess that is going on in the country.
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            Whoa, come laughing

            My friend, all of you listed, and on a large scale, was still under EBN. And as for the "rivers and fish" - it was still under the Union, I was on the Volga in 1979, "I saw it myself" (c). And he also saw gutted sturgeons swimming by - also.

            But you, as usual, are all to blame for Putin. Laurels of Bulk Peace do not give? wink
            1. Svarog 13 August 2019 09: 14 New
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              And he also saw gutted sturgeons swimming by - also.

              There was poaching, I don’t argue with that, but there was something to catch .. and now sturgeon is no longer easy to meet in the Volga. Now the seagull is feeding in the fields, because there is no fry .. I live on Kama, a fisherman, I observe everything with my own eyes.
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              But you, as usual, are all to blame for Putin. Laurels of Bulk Peace do not give?

              And who do you think is to blame? The one who created this vicious system where money decides whether the law will be executed or not ..
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                Quote: Svarog
                who created this vicious system where money decides whether the law will be executed or not ..

                Funny logic. But the fact that

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                Poaching was, I do not argue with this

                - there did not decide the money? So who created the system? wink

                Logic is not yours, buddy. Watch the seagulls better yes
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                There was poaching, I don’t argue with that, but there was something to catch .. and now sturgeon is no longer easy to meet in the Volga.
                Jacob knocked out this sturgeon even before EBN!
                Oops! What am I ... Putin ate the sturgeon. With friends.

                Quote: Svarog
                I live on Kama, a fisherman, I observe everything with my own eyes.
                Fisherman, when was the last time you paid a fee for a fish?
      3. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 09: 23 New
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        Missed a unique opportunity for the country to become a world leader.

        Sorry, but the Golden International will not let you do this.
        1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 10: 26 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: syndicalist
          Missed a unique opportunity for the country to become a world leader.

          Sorry, but the Golden International will not let you do this.

          Sorry, but you are not quite right. The history of the USSR, which was one of the two world leaders. So anything is possible. hi
          1. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 10: 55 New
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            Quote: Leshy1975
            The history of the USSR, which was one of the two world leaders.

            Yes, he was allowed to become a world leader, but when the first one came out of submission and in order to break his backbone, it was allowed for us to become a world leader, but with great limitations.
            1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 11: 02 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Leshy1975
              The history of the USSR, which was one of the two world leaders.

              Yes, he was allowed to become a world leader, but when the first one came out of submission and in order to break his backbone, it was allowed for us to become a world leader, but with great limitations.

              I do not quite agree. The USSR was able to emerge and take its place as one of the leaders, thanks to the crisis of existing relations in the world at that time and as a result of the end of the world war. But this topic is complex, I would even say more scientific. There is no mood today, to develop such a complex topic. Moreover, as I understand it, both agree in the main thing - the USSR was one of two world leaders. hi
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                Totally agree with you.
      4. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 15 New
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        Powerful rollback in all areas

        Oh, where is Misha, two percent? laughing
      5. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 12: 35 New
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        Quote: syndicalist
        The most powerful rollback in all areas, with the exception of the military

        Name this sphere.
        Quote: syndicalist
        Four trillion dollars raised from rising commodity prices

        ))) Do not tell me where you got these numbers?
        Quote: syndicalist
        And successes in strengthening the army in the near future will result in the same degradation caused by the degradation of science and education.

        What are you talking about ?! What degradation of education if our olympiad schools constantly win. What a degradation of science, because of which the army is degrading, if only we develop and develop high-tech weapons. In the 90s, it degraded and at the same time we are releasing modern weapons.
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      That’s all 20 years of Pu’s rule - stomping around

      belay lol
      GDP has grown almost three times, comparing people's lives in the late 90s and today it’s generally heaven and earthhave you already forgotten the 90s ?, the revival of the army and, most importantly, the CONSERVATION OF RUSSIA - a single country, and also -for the first time in a hundred years- INCREASING the territory of Russia - return stolen previous rulers of territories.

      This is FACTS, if that ....

      PS. German agitation in the furnace.
      1. Teacher67 13 August 2019 07: 13 New
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        Golden words of the Kremlin boat: "forgot how it was in the 90s and right now"
        1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 08: 59 New
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          Quote: Teacher67
          Golden words of the Kremlin boat: "forgot how it was in the 90s and right now"

          Golden words of sclerosis.
        2. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 11: 19 New
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          It’s strange what kind of word ... the bot wasn’t banned. I once repeated simply, like now, still the red mark is hanging. And the numbers are not from the bulldozer taken about GDP.
        3. bondrostov 13 August 2019 14: 46 New
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          In them, in addition to the horror stories of the 90s, there is nothing more and there is no stagnation even in propaganda! laughing
      2. Far B 13 August 2019 07: 26 New
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        As always, juggling, juggling with facts, direct lies, etc., and so on.
        GDP grew almost three times
        The effect of low start - no, not heard?
        Have you forgotten the 90s?
        I remember and know you better
        for the first time in a hundred years, INCREASING the territory of Russia
        A direct lie. 1939, 1940, 1945, maybe I forgot something else, I need to wrinkle my brain, I don’t want to.
        stolen by previous rulers of territories
        who are they? the most drunken king boris? so Pu is his direct successor. First of all, climbing the throne, he gave EBN and the family guarantees of immunity. The second thing is that he assured that there will be no revision of the results of privatization.
        Oh yes. Even with his LADY he gave a little to the Russian territories: shelves, islands on the Amur ... But this does not bother you, right?
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          Quote: Far In
          A direct lie. 1939, 1940, 1945, maybe I forgot something else, I need to wrinkle my brain, I don’t want to.

          Do not remind the price paid in 1939 and 1945? Or
          Quote: Far In
          It doesn’t bother you, right?
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            1. Loess 13 August 2019 08: 44 New
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              Quote: Far In
              And what about the price for the 39, can you tell me?

              Do you think that cheaply got off?
              Quote: Far In
              As for the price for 45, it was not paid for the expansion of territories,

              Well, if the issue of expansion of territories was not raised in the 45, then you should not have mentioned this date.
              Quote: Far In
              The Kuril Islands, Yu.Sakhalin and Kaliningrad are just a consequence.

              Yeah, the consequence. Let me remind you - the consequence of the death of more than 20-millions of Soviet citizens.
              Quote: Far In
              Again juggling.

              I’ll just clarify, otherwise lovers of high-profile phrases are somehow one-sidedly looking at any problem.
              Quote: Far In
              Do you exercise under the covers at night?

              But this is not your business, what am I doing under the covers, agree?
              1. Far B 13 August 2019 09: 03 New
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                Do you think that cheaply got off?
                Who got off? "Who was standing on whom? Take the trouble to speak more clearly" (c)
                Well, if the issue of expansion of territories was not raised in the 45, then you should not have mentioned this date.
                Where did I mention that the expansion issue did not stand? Juggling
                Yeah, the consequence. Let me remind you - the consequence of the death of more than 20-millions of Soviet citizens.
                The result of the Victory, achieved at the cost of life of more than 20 million Soviet people. Juggling.
                Either you are used to having a conversation in a similar roguish vein, or simply a narrow-minded person, unable to understand what was written. In both cases, there is no desire to continue the conversation with you. Do not cough. hi
                1. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 11: 34 New
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                  So srach went out of the blue. wassat and you are already leaving. The feeling that we were all right and left was raped by someone to the delight of the "partners." As in the taxi driver’s warning in YouTube: “the next morning no one remembers anything, and only the ass hurts. These are the guys’s things” wassat
            2. Olgovich 13 August 2019 09: 23 New
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              Quote: Far In
              Kaliningrad is just a consequence.

              "Huge" "acquisition", yeah: Poland, the eternal enemy of Russia acquired FACTOR OF more. For this, OURS perished?
              1. Far B 13 August 2019 09: 38 New
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                Lost in the east, in the west, Stalin compensated her. Boleki and Leleki were in the Soviet sphere of influence.
                For this, OURS perished?
                OURS perished for uprooting Nazism. Because dying for conditional Stalin to cut another piece of zemlitsa is an extreme degree of mental inferiority, and the Russian peasant will never subscribe to such crap. But yours died for what - without a clue.
                1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 10: 21 New
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                  Quote: Far In
                  In the east lost,

                  HOW can you lose, not your own? This is not Polish land.
                  So not compensation in the West, but pure gift Poland in the West from Stalin, for, as he stated in Yalta:
                  Russians in the past had many sins before Poland. Soviet government seeks make amends for these sins

                  Quote: Far In
                  OURS perished for uprooting Nazism

                  Of course. And not for increment the enemy Poland, which took place without asking anyone.
                  For it turns out "Russians in the past had many sins before Poland. and.
                  Quote: Far In
                  But yours died for what - no idea.

                  Ahhh, this one, like him, no longer frowns ...... lol hi
        2. carstorm 11 13 August 2019 08: 58 New
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          the islands do not need dirt. it is Gorbachev who signed the principles along the border. under Putin it was just done. so that all claims to the Secretary General of the CPSU, or whatever it was called there. you need to know such things.
          1. Far B 13 August 2019 09: 13 New
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            Who signed what is there - the tenth matter. Although Nicholas II. The islands are transferred under Putin. All. Dot. Gorbachev by that time was nobody and his name was nothing. By the time the islands were transferred, he had been advertising / hawal pizza for 15 years (underline as necessary).
            1. carstorm 11 13 August 2019 09: 18 New
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              this is juggling with children’s. Putin had to break all the agreements adopted? still on the eastern border of the enemy out of nothing? he only had that choice. This boundary demarcation treaty should have been done a long time ago. even under Brezhnev at least.
              1. Far B 13 August 2019 09: 42 New
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                Putin should have at least reviewed everything that was signed by his predecessors. Normal practice for the head of state. If in front of you the country was led by a traitor or a madman, will you really blindly carry out everything that was signed by him? Nonsense. So public policy is not done.
                1. carstorm 11 13 August 2019 10: 16 New
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                  Well, you better know how it is done. experience apparently a wagon. graduated from the civil service academy? I do not want to teach you history. study the question yourself. it really began more than a century ago, but I think master.
                  1. Far B 13 August 2019 10: 25 New
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                    Are you saying that according to international practice, borders pass along the fairway of rivers, and not along the banks? In the know, yeah. Only international practice is the maximum recommendation character. And special cases - they are different. As for teaching history, this is strong, of course. I was imbued.
          2. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 19 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            so that all claims to the Secretary General of the CPSU, or whatever it was called there. you need to know such things.

            And he sits under the protection of the FSO, receives a pension in 740 thousand rubles, and does not blow into his mustache.
            1. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 11: 41 New
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              what I thought he died long ago
              1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 11: 51 New
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                I thought he died long ago

                Yes, this one, I don’t even know how to call him, will still survive all of us.

                As he was called the "political corpse" in the elections, he was indignant: "I’m not a corpse to you!" Sounded by Mikhailo Sergeich.
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        4. Olgovich 13 August 2019 09: 18 New
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          Quote: Far In
          As always, juggling, juggling with facts, direct lies, etc., and so on.

          Just the facts, liar
          Quote: Far In
          The effect of low start - no, not heard?

          Pit-low start? fool
          Quote: Far In
          I remember and know you better

          Did you spit on your finger?
          Quote: Far In
          A direct lie. 1939, 1940, 1945, maybe he forgot something else, wrinkle the brain I don’t want to.

          What to wrinkle something? belay
          Quote: Far In
          A direct lie. 1939, 1940, 1945, maybe I forgot something else, I need to wrinkle my brain, I don’t want to.

          The territory of RUSSIA was cut off 4 million km 2 AFTER the founding of the USSR, Putin is the FIRST who returned the STORED, ignoramus
          Quote: Far In
          who are they? the most drunken king boris?

          From 1917 to 1954, ALL rulers stole from Russia land and citizens, EVERYTHING WITHOUT exception.
        5. depressant 13 August 2019 09: 59 New
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          Add numbers.
          In 2015, Putin announced a plan to reduce the number of state-owned companies by 10% annually. Allegedly in the development of competition. This is in addition to the fact that, unlike private enterprises, overwhelmingly joint ventures with foreigners, state-owned enterprises did not receive any support, at least in the form of softening tax laws. They died silently, their number in itself was rapidly declining, not being able to at the expense of at least a one-time infusion of state. money to carry out a worthy modernization and therefore not withstanding competition with similar foreign ones. And injections in fat oil years could take place, but did not take place!
          In general, having heard this from Putin, even the liberals were amazed and announced that it was unlikely to succeed. Indeed, due to the realities of life, the plan is slightly slower. However, at the very least, it is fulfilled. By order.

          According to the Federal State Statistics Service, from 2016 to 2019, the number of state-owned enterprises decreased by 9% --- from 65,5 thousand still remaining in operation, to 59,6 thousand, that is, 5900 enterprises.
          Of them:
          In the field of processing - 3 times.
          Wholesale, retail and repair work - by 42%.
          Construction - by 33,5%.
          Agriculture, forestry, hunting and fishing - by 19,4%.
          Health and social services -
          - by 18%.
          Education - by 7,5%.
          Culture, sports and recreation - by 5%.

          So where did these businesses go? In the amount of 5900? Municipalities are selling them. In private hands. After which a significant part of them goes bankrupt and closes completely. Is this in the development of competition? With whom --- with foreign analogues?
          In total, during the years of Putin’s rule, about 80 thousand state bodies perished. enterprises, among which there were many unique and promising - in the case of a minimum state. participation in their modernization.
          Meaning: Socialism should not even smell! Everything - either to a private trader, or to kill completely!

          And the number of companies with partial state participation from 2016 to 2019 decreased by 30%. From 1557 companies to 1084.
          Now imagine. A small town in the Siberian wilderness. It has a small state airport, which only allows residents to get out into the vastness of our vast country. The city administration sells the airport in private hands, and those hands, realizing that they arrived from the airport like a goat’s milk, even if ticket prices were lifted up, they buy it in order to bankrupt, because the existing fraud schemes allow you to make a profit in this case. How to fuck your personal fat and the city fathers. Or the private trader dismisses half of the airport staff, sells relatively new equipment, replacing it with trash ... Then forecast yourself.
          At the same time, the export of capital to offshore companies is growing. Yes, that's just the growth prospects of the gross domestic product is not visible. Unless due to an increase in retail prices for everything.
          1. igorbrsv 13 August 2019 11: 50 New
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            I don’t remember the name of the resource, but I googled "the number of enterprises opened under Putin." There is the opposite of the information you have. But here is what struck me - almost no one collects positive data, does not accumulate this data. About closed - millions of results, our and other people's resources. Nothing has "opened up" in our country, or is it simply not so interesting for the "masses"? what
          2. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 12: 48 New
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            Quote: depressant
            According to the Federal State Statistics Service, from 2016 to 2019, the number of state-owned enterprises decreased by 9% --- from 65,5 thousand still remaining in operation, to 59,6 thousand, that is, 5900 enterprises.

            Horror is what. But in economically developed countries there are no state enterprises at all, and why do people not whine there like you?
            Quote: depressant
            In total, during the years of Putin’s rule, about 80 thousand state bodies perished. enterprises, among which there were many unique and promising - in the case of a minimum state. participation in their modernization.

            Names of unique enterprises in the studio.
            Quote: depressant
            Meaning: Socialism should not even smell! Everything - either to a private trader, or to kill completely!

            In Sweden, in fact, socialism and everything private.
            Quote: depressant
            At the same time, the export of capital to offshore companies is growing.

            As well as in China for example.
            Quote: depressant
            Yes, that's just the growth prospects of the gross domestic product is not visible.

            You are not visible, but it is growing. laughing
            1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 14: 14 New
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              Quote: Sergey1987
              Names of unique enterprises in the studio.

              ZIL, enough?
              1. Sergey1987 15 August 2019 16: 36 New
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                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                ZIL, enough?

                And what is its uniqueness?
                1. Mordvin 3 15 August 2019 16: 50 New
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                  And what is its uniqueness?

                  The fact that it was a really working company. The first Chinese car factory, a copy of ZIL, built by Soviet specialists in 50, is fully state-owned, it is still run by the Communists, it is a fully state-owned company with about 120 thousand employees, and it produces millions of cars a year. Before arguing, you would have studied the issue, because you are exposing yourself as a comedian.

                  These are their products.
                  Where are the vaunted Swedes? Theirs Volvo bought the same China.
                  1. Sergey1987 16 August 2019 16: 55 New
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                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    The fact that it was a really working company.

                    It turns out the uniqueness of the automobile plant is that it is automobile.
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    The first Chinese automobile plant, a copy of ZiL, built by the USSR specialists in the 50s, is fully state-owned, it still operates under the control of the Communists, it is a fully state-owned company, with a staff of about 120 thousand people, and produces millions of cars a year.

                    Russian Communists built a factory for the Chinese Communists. And the Chinese, unlike the Russians, made it profitable. The Russian Communists turned the soviet factory into a non-competitive one, profiled the country, and now they blame the current government for not saving it. Nothing to say. In 2011, the enterprise was in a deep crisis, a significant part of the production facilities was destroyed [29]. The new top managers of AMO ZIL were looking for a foreign partner for organizing contract manufacturing of cars or for renting out a production complex. The management held meetings and negotiations with representatives of the Chinese company Sinotruk, the Italian company FIAT, the Dutch DAF Trucks with a proposal to organize the production of their cars at AMO ZIL in Russia, but did not meet with interest. Despite the fact that many auto giants are building factories in the Russian Federation.
                    And the state saved the factories. Take at least the same Uralvagon, Rostselmash and many others.
                    1. Mordvin 3 16 August 2019 18: 49 New
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                      And the state saved the factories. Take at least the same Uralvagon, Rostselmash

                      They do not save anything. The UVZ was saved by the workers themselves, guarding the workshops in 90, and the Indians to zero by their contract.
                      in Canada, the payment to the pension fund is 3,5 times lower and the social insurance fees are 2 times lower. In fact, at 1, the ruble of salary in Russia must pay taxes on the 81 penny, and in Canada only 72 pennies. In addition, in Canada, the value added tax is 12% (against 18% in Russia). 2. Electricity tariffs in Canada for industrial enterprises are about 1,7 rubles per kW ($ 0,055). In Russia - 2,2 times higher - 3,7 rubles. That is, the tractor plant’s electricity costs when it is transferred to Russia will increase by $ 2,1 million 3. Growth in freight costs of similar production in Russia will amount to $ 4,2 million, and taking into account the cost of paying for services of natural monopolies, it will amount to $ 5,6 million per year. 4. A key factor in business development is the cost of loans. In Canada, interest rates on loans are 5,1 times lower. For the Canadian and Russian tractor plants, the difference is $ 14,4 million (3,5 million against 17,9 million). 5. The biggest article is taxes. A factory located in Winnipeg pays $ 26,1 million less in taxes than its counterpart in Rostov.

                      Details on: http://dos-news.com/lenta_novostei/vladelec-rostselmasha-na-palcax-rasskazal-putinu-pochemu-importozameshhenie-nevozmozhno.html

                      This is about the Canadian plant of Rostselmash.
                      1. Sergey1987 17 August 2019 12: 04 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        They do not save anything. UVZ was saved by the workers who guarded the workshops in the 90s

                        ))) Yeah, the men gathered and decided that the plant would not be closed. At your own expense did tanks buy their home?
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        and Indians to zero by their contract.

                        What kind Indians. From the bottom of our hearts, we decided to buy tanks so that the plant would not be closed, and not because our authorities could offer a good contract. And the Russian Armed Forces did not buy tanks?
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                        In addition, Canada has a value added tax of 12% (against 18% in Russia)

                        VAT lower income higher. Everywhere in different ways. In fact, we can also compare the taxes of the Russian Federation with Germany and the Czech Republic. What's next? Everything else, even to check there is no desire. Because the site from which the information was taken is known to me for its criticism of everything and everything.
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              Do you see a gopher? No. Me neither. But he is!
          3. Victor N 13 August 2019 13: 25 New
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            The enterprises went bankrupt because there was SOMEONE to work there, there was nobody to carry out modernization - they did not know how and did not want to! From director to worker! EVERYONE pulled what they could - "labor collective." Now, little has changed.
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              The enterprises went bankrupt because there was SOMEONE to work there, there was nobody to carry out modernization - they did not know how and did not want to!

              Wow! I once read that the United States banned the import of Japanese motorcycles and gave interest-free credit to Harley-Davidson.
        6. CT-55_11-9009 18 August 2019 18: 28 New
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          A direct lie. 1939, 1940, 1945, maybe I forgot something else, I need to wrinkle my brain, I don’t want to.

          1940 - Tuva.
      3. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 08: 10 New
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        heaven and earth, have forgotten 90?

        Olgovich, oddly enough, I personally lived in 90 better. For one salary could slip into Paris.
        1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 09: 25 New
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          Olgovich, oddly enough, I personally lived better in the 90s.

          And the Hodors lived better. But I talked about the rest
          1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 11 New
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            And the Hodors lived better. But I talked about the rest

            I worked in 90 at the ZIL branch. He received ten times more than my mom, a cashier, or my medical sister. What kind of “hodor” am I? Mary Ivanovna pudova waved the current and so, cutting down the nuts. Estimate, they did not turn off, it was necessary to cut.
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              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              In the 90s, I worked at a branch of ZiL. He received ten times more than my mom, a cashier, or my medical sister. What kind of “hodor” am I?

              I wrote
              Quote: Olgovich
              И Hodors lived better.

              You- And Hodors hi
              1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 14: 04 New
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                Quote: Olgovich
                You-

                Our company in the 90-ies was one of the hundred best enterprises in Russia. And about Hodor is not necessary, this eggplant from the party environment, the same nonsense.
              2. naidas 13 August 2019 20: 37 New
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                And the Hodors lived better. But I talked about the rest

                I don’t know how much better the rest or hodors worked in 1993-94 as a loader (book warehouse), I could pay for a communal apartment for three months without straining.
      4. parma 13 August 2019 08: 30 New
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        and also - for the first time in a hundred years - INCREASING the territory of Russia

        These are former Russian territories, the only time in the last 100 years when something joined the historical territories of Russia (since the time of RI) - this is under Stalin, following the WWII and the territory of Japan in the Far East and the lands of Prussia from Germany in the west ... And if we talk about PWV as a "collector of Russian lands," then the same Georgian gathered more land - and app. Ukraine with Belarus and the Baltic states and Tuva and Bessarabia and part of Finland and even the little things ...
        Regarding GDP growth, let’s compare the growth with, say, Germany - 1999: 2 199.9 billion US dollars, in 2014 (especially before the sanctions) 3 890.6 billion US dollars, the Russian Federation in 1999 was 1 872,5 billion US dollars in 2014 became 3 693,8, 1,5 billion US dollars. During this time, the dollar dipped by almost 2 times (average inflation for $ + -1999%). As you can see, the growth for both economies is insignificant, but the industry and the German economy as a whole at the time of 90 were very modern (which means that small growth is justified), in our country (as you say) industry was poached in the XNUMXs, which means its prime should be a huge growth ... Where is he? Where is the great renaissance in the wars ...
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          Quote: parma
          It the former Russian territories

          Who made them ex? He returned the stolen
          Quote: parma
          it is under Stalin

          Under Stalin, the territory of RUSSIA was reduced by 4 million km2
          Quote: parma
          then the same Georgian gathered more land - and app. Ukraine with Belarus and the Baltic states and Tuva and Bessarabia and part of Finland and more on the little things.

          WHO collected? look at the map-Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic states-at the expense of the forces and means of Russia
          Quote: parma
          RF in 1999 was 1 872,5 billion US dollars in 2014 became 3 693,8 billion US dollars


          1998 -1 340 billion

          2017 g-4 billion

          three times growth

          Compare prosperous Germany and a devastated country wildly
          1. parma 13 August 2019 10: 01 New
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            Who made them ex? He returned the stolen

            Sorry, stolen by whom? there was a common country (until 1991) and therefore it was a shuffle inside the country! Now this is also there, otherwise the PVV stole the territory from the Moscow region))
            Quote: Olgovich
            Under Stalin, the territory of RUSSIA was reduced by 4 million km2

            but not the USSR, but maybe Russia was part of the USSR. You simply juggle facts for your own sake ...
            Quote: Olgovich
            WHO collected? look at the map-Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic states-at the expense of the forces and means of Russia

            Well then, PVV develops Crimea, the Czech Republic and Moscow at the expense of the whole country)) Well then, let's say that the lion's share of European countries are developed thanks to Germany, and that they were part of the Holy Roman Empire)) Bullshit and only .. Under Stalin there was no Russia, there was the USSR ....
            Quote: Olgovich
            1998 -1 340 billion
            2017 g-4 billion
            three times growth
            Compare prosperous Germany and a devastated country wildly

            I watched from 1999 to 2014, maybe in 1999 the PVV came to power, and sanctions started in 2015, but I was waiting for such an answer ... Then we will go through the economically more backward countries of the former USSR, from where they go to work in the Russian Federation ...
            So, Tajikistan’s GDP in 1999 is 1,1 billion. dollars in 2014 became 9,2 billion dollars, almost 9 times (!!) more ...
            Azerbaijan's GDP in 1999 was $ 4,6 billion, in 2014 it became $ 75,2 billion, more than 16 (!!) multiple growth ...
            Kyrgyzstan’s GDP in 1999 was 1,2 billion dollars, in 2014 it was 7,5 billion dollars ..... 6-fold increase
            Kazakhstan's GDP in 1999 was 16,9 billion dollars, in 2014 it became 221,4 billion dollars ..... 13-fold ..
            You say great growth, with inflation of the dollar by 1,5-2 times? You look in rubles ... You’ll download digits there ...
            1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 10: 43 New
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              Sorry, stolen by whom?

              See the country's leadership from 1917 to 1954.
              Quote: parma
              there was a common country (until 1991) and therefore it was a shuffle inside the country!

              Ah, inside, i.e. no difference, speak? So WHY SAME only Russia remained in the red, without its lands after 91 g, and all the rest were in the black, i.e. stayed with RUSSIAN lands and people ?.
              Wow, "no difference"! Such “ephemeral”, supposedly borders, turned out to be the borders of SOVEREIGN states-republics, created not 91 g, but in 1918-1940
              Quote: parma
              Now there is one, too, otherwise the PVV stole the territory from the Moscow region)

              There is such a "state" -moscow. region? You compare it with sovereign USSR?
              Quote: parma
              but not the USSR, but maybe Russia was part of the USSR

              we about of Russia We are talking, not about the USSR, where it was reduced 5 million km2
              Quote: parma
              You just finely juggle the facts to please yourself ...

              These are FACTS; see today's state border of Russia - it is established with 1917 on 1954 years (Croke of Crimea).
              Quote: parma
              Thus, Tajikistan’s GDP in 1999 is 1,1 billion. dollars in 2014 became 9,2 billion dollars, almost 9 times (!!) more ...
              Azerbaijan's GDP in 1999 was $ 4,6 billion, in 2014 it became $ 75,2 billion, more than 16 (!!) multiple growth ...

              Dwarfs are not Russia. Compare is stupid.
              Quote: parma
              You say great growth, with inflation of the dollar by 1,5-2 times? You look in rubles ... You’ll download digits there ..

              possible in rubles. And what bothers?
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                Quote: Olgovich
                possible in rubles. And what bothers?

                The ruble exchange rate)) Which fell by 2 times in comparison with 2000 and 2019))
                Quote: Olgovich
                Dwarfs are not Russia. Compare is stupid. ?

                Germany is too successful, we won’t look at them, CIS neighbors will not look at dwarfs, but you won’t please))
                Well, look at other countries, first commensurate in population, then in area:
                Pakistan, 215 million person. in 1999, 77.9 billion dollars in 2014 became 248,9 billion. dollars, an increase of 3,2 times, achievements are just like PVV
                Ethiopia, 112 million people, in 1999 7.3 billion dollars in 2014 became 54,2 billion dollars, an increase of 7,5 times, more achievements than the UIP
                Bangladesh, 169 million people, in 1999 44,8 billion dollars in 2014 became 173,1 billion dollars, an increase of 3,8 times, achievements are greater than those of the WSP
                I think you understand that among countries with a population comparable to us, everything is not cool ...
                The area is even more fun:
                Canada (it won’t suit you, they were so successful, but still), for 1999 it was 676,1 billion dollars. In 2014 it was 1792,9 billion dollars, an increase of 2.6 times, achievements just like ours from 1999 to 2014
                China is generally stupid to compare, but in 1999 it was 1097,1 billion dollars. In 2014, 10534,5 billion dollars, 9,6 times .. with not the smallest GDP in the lead ....
                USA: it was 9660,6 billion dollars. In 2014, it was 17 billion dollars, an increase of 427,6 times, while the United States exported almost all the plants to China ... And all these 1.8 years have been waging wars around the planet ....
                What do we see? and the fact that Putin’s vaunted GDP growth of 3 times was provided by almost all the leaders on the planet ..
                PS: for backfilling, Afghanistan’s GDP from 1999 to 2014 increased from 2.7 to 21.3 billion dollars, and Iraq from 14.8 to 199.2 billion dollars, 7,9 and 13,5 times respectively, and there the war goes the lion's share of this time ..
                1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 12: 30 New
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                  Quote: parma
                  The ruble exchange rate)) Which fell by 2 times in comparison with 2000 and 2019)

                  Spit on the course. In Russia, the ruble, not the dollar, remember
                  Quote: parma
                  Germany is too successful, we won’t look at them, CIS neighbors will not look at dwarfs, but you won’t please))

                  Quote: parma
                  Pakistan, 215 million person. in 1999, 77.9 billion dollars in 2014 became 248,9 billion. dollars, an increase of 3,2 times, achievements are just like PVV
                  Ethiopia, 112 million people, in 1999 7.3 billion dollars in 2014 became 54,2 billion dollars, an increase of 7,5 times, more achievements than the UIP
                  Bangladesh, 169 million people, in 1999 44,8 billion dollars in 2014 became 173,1 billion dollars, an increase of 3,8 times, achievements are greater than those of the WSP
                  I think you understand that among countries with a population comparable to us, everything is not cool ...
                  The area is even more fun:
                  Canada (it won’t suit you, they were so successful, but still), for 1999 it was 676,1 billion dollars. In 2014 it was 1792,9 billion dollars, an increase of 2.6 times, achievements just like ours from 1999 to 2014
                  China is generally stupid to compare, but in 1999 it was 1097,1 billion dollars. In 2014, 10534,5 billion dollars, 9,6 times .. with not the smallest GDP in the lead ....
                  USA: it was 9660,6 billion dollars. In 2014, it was 17 billion dollars, an increase of 427,6 times, while the United States exported almost all the plants to China ... And all these 1.8 years have been waging wars around the planet ....

                  Quote: parma
                  PS: for backfilling, Afghanistan’s GDP from 1999 to 2014 increased from 2.7 to 21.3 billion dollars, and Iraq from 14.8 to 199.2 billion dollars, 7,9 and 13,5 times respectively, and there the war goes the lion's share of this time ..

                  Find another Russia. Compare: Until now, there’s nobody with anyone, for there IS NOTHING similar

                  PS Why did you do such a job? What did you want to prove? belay
                  1. parma 13 August 2019 13: 19 New
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                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Spit on the course. In Russia, the ruble, not the dollar, remember

                    Yes, but international treaties and reports lead to the ruble dollar, so you need to measure in dollars)) So in August 1999 (according to the Internet) $ 1 cost around 24p 60k, and today it costs 65p 56k. Total GDP in 1999 at the exchange rate of August 1999 was 49 billion rubles, and for 808,5 at the current exchange rate we get 2014 billion rubles, the growth is almost 242 times) But the ruble is compared between 165,53 and 5, Doesn’t it seem to you that this is true? And I did all these simple “works” with one purpose - to explain to you that the thesis about “1999-fold increase in GDP with PWV” (even the WBP GDP sounds cool) are just words, because almost all the planet was able to give out such a thing (yes, Somalia couldn’t, and still some people) ... So the words about his economic genius are just zilch ... Even in neighboring countries they will show l above (try dolman your rose-colored glasses, Ukraine's GDP from 2019 to 3 increased by 1999 times from 2014 to US $ 4,1 billion..) ...
      5. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 09: 27 New
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        the revival of the army and, most importantly, the CONSERVATION OF RUSSIA -a single country

        That’s why Andrei our liberal democrats are “minus” you in black for this.
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        and also - for the first time in a hundred years - INCREASING the territory of Russia - the return of territories stolen by previous rulers.


        Here is a map of the territory of Russia in 1917-1922. Look carefully, remember and no longer lie that the territory of Russia has increased since then. Yeah, for the first time in a hundred years.
        Well, about a happy today and most importantly a happy future (already near) this will be written to you without me. hi
        1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 11: 42 New
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          Here is a map of the territory of Russia in 1917-1922. Look carefully, remember and no longer liethat the territory of Russia since increased. Yeah, for the first time in a hundred years.

          belay laughing
          What am I saying, eh?
          Under Ulyanov, the territory of Russia decreased by almost 1 million km2under Stalin, another 4 million km2Khrushchev prto Crimea.

          Putin is the FIRST, who over the last hundred years, has INCREASED it.
          Quote: Leshy1975
          Well, about happy Today, and most importantly, a happy future (already near) will write to you without me.

          Unhappy-Condolences hi
          1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 12: 13 New
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            Well, are you lying again? Not tired of lying around? That is, on my map, is the territory of the country in 1917-1922 smaller than now? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            And about Ulyanov, you are also trying to lie, by the time the Bolsheviks came to power, the territory of the country, for example, Finland and Poland, had already been lost.
            And what's more: Attempts by the Bolshevik government to regain control of the virtually fallen western national outskirts (Finland, Ukraine, Estonia, etc.) collapse during the German offensive in the spring of 1918.
            Well, about Stalin and WWII results, when USSR joined many of the lost lands, this is generally beyond all ignorance.

            Therefore, it may be for you personally
            Putin is the FIRST, who over the last hundred years, has INCREASED it.
            1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 12: 44 New
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              Quote: Leshy1975
              Well, are you lying again? Not tired of lying around? That is, on the map I have given, the territory of the country in 1917-1922 is less than now? !!!

              More of course. And who claimed the BACK ?? !!!!
              Quote: Leshy1975
              And about Ulyanov, you are also trying to lie, by the time the Bolsheviks came to power, the territory of the country, for example, Finland and Poland, had already been lost.

              I'm talking about Little Russia, Belarus and Transcaucasia is minus 1 million km post. No one declared or stuttered independence, NOBODY- Before Iliche.
              Quote: Leshy1975
              Well, about Stalin beyond all ignorance.

              yeah - 1922

              only 18 years have passed ...1940 - minus another 4 million km2[Center]
              so
              Putin is the FIRST, who over the last hundred years, has INCREASED it.
              1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 13: 06 New
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                Quote: Olgovich
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Well, are you lying again? Not tired of lying around? That is, on the map I have given, the territory of the country in 1917-1922 is less than now? !!!

                More of course. And who claimed the BACK ?? !!!!
                Quote: Leshy1975
                And about Ulyanov, you are also trying to lie, by the time the Bolsheviks came to power, the territory of the country, for example, Finland and Poland, had already been lost.

                I'm talking about Little Russia, Belarus and Transcaucasia, no one has declared or stuttered independence, NOBODY. To Iliche.
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Well, about Stalin and the outcome of WWII, when the USSR annexed many of the lost lands, this is generally beyond all ignorance.

                1922 г

                only 18 years have passed ... 1940 ...
                so
                Putin is the FIRST, who over the last hundred years, has INCREASED it.

                Listen, I do not like pathological liars, especially stubborn ones:
                More of course. And who claimed the BACK ?? !!!!

                Yes, you personally claimed! Here it is:
                and -for the first time in a hundred years — INCREASE Russian territory - the return of territories stolen by previous rulers.

                Yes, and Stalin was dragged on, that even under him de lands were lost. When the fact is well-known, well, besides you, it turns out that under Stalin the USSR increased its territory.
                And you write again, contrary to the facts, your hopeless nonsense:
                Putin is the FIRST, who over the last hundred years, has INCREASED it.

                And yet, your opus:
                I'm talking about Little Russia, Belarus and Transcaucasia-no one declared or stuttered independence, NOBODY. To Iliche.

                So, BEFORE THE Bolsheviks came to power, headed by Ilyich:

                16 March 1917 year At a general meeting of representatives of political, social, cultural and professional organizations, the formation of a public committee was announced. Among its members there was no consensus on the future status of Ukraine. Supporters of independence (independents) led by N. Mikhnovsky advocated the immediate declaration of independence. Autonomists (V. Vinnichenko, D. Doroshenko and their supporters from the Partnership of Ukrainian Progressives) saw Ukraine as an autonomous republic in a federation with Russia.

                Thus, two centers of national forces were formed with different views on the state-political organization of future Ukraine. In an effort to avoid a split in the national movement, the leaders agreed to create a joint body, called the Ukrainian Central Council. Independents went to unite with the federalists in the hope that the development of the revolution would lead them to recognize the need for independence of Ukraine.

                PS You are an ignoramus, Andrei. And much worse is the fact that you are still stubborn in this ignorance of yours. Time after time, exacerbating the situation. Please stop.
                1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 13: 13 New
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                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  Listen, I do not like pathological liars, especially stubborn ones:
                  More of course. And who claimed the BACK ?? !!!!

                  Yes, you personally claimed! Here it is:
                  and also - for the first time in a hundred years - INCREASING the territory of Russia - the return of territories stolen by previous rulers.

                  It's true. Prior to this, from 1917 she REDUCED
                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  Yes, and Stalin was dragged on, that even under him de lands were lost.

                  Certainly, Russia lost, see cards. Few? See officer reference: http://istmat.info/files/uploads/18147/narhoz_rsfsr_1956_predislovie_2.pdf
                  Quote: Leshy1975
                  Independents went to unite with the federalists in the hope that the development of the revolution would lead them to recognition

                  Hide your nonsense. We talked about INDEPENDENCE. Give the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine, etc. BEFORE October 17, ignoramus.
                  1. Leshy1975 13 August 2019 13: 50 New
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                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    Listen, I do not like pathological liars, especially stubborn ones:
                    More of course. And who claimed the BACK ?? !!!!

                    Yes, you personally claimed! Here it is:
                    and also - for the first time in a hundred years - INCREASING the territory of Russia - the return of territories stolen by previous rulers.

                    It's true. Prior to this, from 1917 she REDUCED
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    Yes, and Stalin was dragged on, that even under him de lands were lost.

                    Certainly, Russia lost, see cards. Few? See officer reference: http://istmat.info/files/uploads/18147/narhoz_rsfsr_1956_predislovie_2.pdf
                    Quote: Leshy1975
                    Independents went to unite with the federalists in the hope that the development of the revolution would lead them to recognition

                    Hide your nonsense. We talked about INDEPENDENCE. Give the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine, etc. BEFORE October 17, ignoramus.

                    Literally yours:
                    No one announced and didn’t stutter about independence, NOBODY- Until Iliche.

                    I brought you who BEFORE Ilyich stuttered and even ALREADY joined the composition. And the declaration was already the fruit of all these events and the subsequent civil war.
                    So persevere further.
                    Literally yours:
                    It's true. Prior to this, from 1917 she REDUCED

                    Once again, for particularly stubborn ignoramuses:
                    There were increases in the country’s territory following the results of the Soviet-Finnish War, as well as before the start of WWII (Baltic States, Western Belarus, Western Ukraine) and, most importantly, according to the results of WWII. It was all after 1917 and before Putin !!!!!!

                    And with Stalin, who was losing territory and the first land collector in a hundred years - Putin, you were embarrassed. request
      7. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 27 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        for the first time in a hundred years, INCREASING the territory of Russia

        you probably forgot about the territories given to GDP and to China, Azerbaijan, and Norway. Or is it also an INCREASE?
        1. Olgovich 13 August 2019 11: 45 New
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          you probably forgot about the territories given to GDP and to China, Azerbaijan, and Norway.

          Indicate the territory of the country BEFORE "giveaways" and AFTER-according official directoriesto have an item.

          After that, let's continue the conversation.
      8. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 12: 37 New
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        GDP has grown almost THREE times, to compare the lives of people in the late 90s and today is generally heaven and earth forgotten the 90s ?, the revival of the army and, most importantly, SAVING RUSSIA, a single country, and also for the first time in a hundred years - INCREASE in the territory of Russia - the return of territories stolen by previous rulers.

        And of course you were bombarded. I look really pricks people in the eye.
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          I look really pricks people in the eye.

          Do not pay attention, it rarely happens differently.
        2. karabass 15 August 2019 23: 08 New
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          Yes, it’s not a matter of GDP, the fact is that our rulers have not been able to provide decent wages to people for so many years. And why tell people the GDP if the electrician at the factory has a salary of 18 rubles clean. When I asked him how you can work for the money, he replied - that it’s not just bad, but also trying to do a little harm if possible. And he spit on GDP
          1. Sergey1987 16 August 2019 17: 24 New
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            if the electrician at the factory has a salary of 18 rubles clean

            So maybe he will say thanks to the owner of the plant.
            Quote: karabass
            Yes, it's not about GDP

            GDP is just an indicator of economic growth and partly the standard of living. Look at the top ten. You will not find countries with a low standard of living there. The only exception is India because there is a large population.
            1. karabass 16 August 2019 17: 48 New
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              So he says working poorly and doing sabotage. The thing is different, our elite, led by GDP, was engaged in anything - the Syria Ucoain’s Samit Olympiad, propaganda. And it was necessary to deal primarily with patriotism. And for this (for patriotism) it was necessary to achieve good salaries for people. And if they did not want or could not, then WHY do the people need them?
              1. Sergey1987 17 August 2019 10: 45 New
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                And for this (for patriotism) it was necessary to achieve good salaries for people

                The state should not indicate to private business what salaries to set. Only minimal. How do you imagine the task of achieving high salaries? How to make a private trader pay a high salary? Close his business.? So you yourself will shout that small and medium-sized businesses are crushing.
                Quote: karabass
                The thing is different, our elite, led by GDP, was engaged in anything - the Syria Ucoain’s Samit Olympiad, propaganda.

                Not involved in the economy, would not be the 6th economy of the world.
                1. karabass 19 August 2019 19: 38 New
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                  I dear Sergey is far from instructing our rulers how to achieve good salaries for people, I try to draw your attention to the fact that if they have not managed to achieve this (good salaries for people) for more than 20 years, then it is worth changing them to more competent
                  1. Sergey1987 20 August 2019 10: 39 New
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                    I dear Sergey is far from instructing our rulers how to achieve good salaries for people, I try to draw your attention to the fact that if they have not managed to achieve this (good salaries for people) for more than 20 years, then it is worth changing them to more competent

                    If they had not achieved good salaries, the standard of living would not have improved. Now people, unlike the 90s and early 00s, can do a lot of things.
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                      I understand you Sergey, Klyuy that is strewn, vote for that whom specify and not tryndi
                      or are you on a paycheck (local propagandist)
    4. Civil 13 August 2019 07: 37 New
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      And what is wrong? The GDP is handsome, well done, knows how to work in a team, is smart, looks like he skillfully steers a political party, liberties against leaven and vice versa) but he is always fighting. Learn gentlemen, comrades, how to go to power and how to be able to defend it. Bravo Vladimir Vladimirovich.
      I’ll reveal the idea that intellectually advanced liberals, that strong-minded, fermented patriots cannot unite, cannot even create a team where everyone will work for each other, be honest, disinterested, devoted to the cause and to each other. And here come up all sorts of comic characters of a leaderistic type such as Failure or Smaltsev. Weak moral and volitional qualities are the reason for miserable wallowing on the garbage side of the history of this entire "opposition". And the guys in power are great, they remember the covenants of partnership and friendship, for each other a mountain.
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        Learn gentlemen, comrades, how to go to power and how to be able to defend it. Bravo Vladimir Vladimirovich.
        It is necessary to lick one place with Sobchak, then Yeltsin, and of Berezovsky and Chubais at the same time. A worthy role model. Every Sternine to study and study.
        1. Civil 13 August 2019 08: 55 New
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          It is necessary to lick one place Sobchak, then Yeltsin, well, Berezovsky and Chubais at the same time appease

          Well, of course, it’s better to ride a white camel over the heads of their supporters. laughing laughing But seriously, you either go to power as a team and endure everything for the sake of a common task or work for yourself as a beloved landowner.
          1. Far B 13 August 2019 09: 56 New
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            Tell about this to Stalin or Lee Kuan Yew, who came to their sweethearted comrades for a sweet soul. What is characteristic, both one and the other managed to significantly increase the well-being of the country, although the conditions were completely different. "Coincidence? I do not think" (c)
            1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 10: 42 New
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              Quote: Far In
              although the conditions were completely different. "Coincidence? I do not think" (c)

              The USSR helped China. Under Stalin.
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                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: Far In
                although the conditions were completely different. "Coincidence? I do not think" (c)

                The USSR helped China. Under Stalin.

                What does the PRC have to do with it?
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                  It’s just that Singapore, unlike China, was not helped by the USSR, and nevertheless, the conclusions regarding the obtrusive "comrades-in-arms" were made independently the same. China has become the second economy, Singapore is one of the countries with the lowest corruption.
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                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    It’s just that Singapore, unlike China, was not helped by the USSR, and nevertheless, the conclusions regarding the obtrusive "comrades-in-arms" were made independently the same. China has become the second economy, Singapore is one of the countries with the lowest corruption.

                    The man writes that the leaders of the USSR and Singapore removed colleagues, you add the PRC. Then it could be written that the USSR helped Czechoslovakia under Stalin.
      2. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 29 New
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        And the guys in power are great, they remember the covenants of partnership and friendship, for each other a mountain.

        that's for sure
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      There is no time for buildup!
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        There is no time for buildup!
        Vladimir Vladimirovich loved to sentence, swaying for 20 years in a hammock stretched between the sides of the galley laughing
    6. Victor N 13 August 2019 10: 29 New
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      "... we, elah-pala ..." - we didn’t roll up our sleeves, we are waiting for Putin to fix everything for us. WE! DO NOT ROW! Well, WE are for such a people, we are waiting for the President to bring us tasty dishes on a silver platter at a time convenient for us ?!
    7. Shelest2000 13 August 2019 20: 27 New
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      He began with the rise, and came to a crisis.

      And there was no “rise" with him. He just stupidly put the country on an oil needle, and all the proceeds (well, most) went (and goes) to hell knows that. For the most part on personal accounts of his close associates. They buy all kinds of villas with vineyards in Tuscany. And as the leader of the country, he is as mediocre as Nikolai ll. He got involved in an absolutely unnecessary, destructive war against Germany. This went to the Olympics, the World Cup, the annexation of Crimea. His country is impoverished, 20 million below the poverty line, industry is dying, business and businessmen are strangled by taxes and fees and are closing hundreds and thousands, interest rates on loans for enterprises and private owners with the wildest interest, and, consequently, inflation, and he, instead of investing money in his own industry, transport, agricultural - invests in all kinds of funds, such as "Future Generations Fund " Yes The Future Generations Fund is the jobs of the parents of these future generations!
      In the meantime, we see only the support of banks and those who export raw materials from the country! Well, such a normal, financially speculative, comprador capitalism has built GDP, where if something develops, it is not thanks to it, but contrary to it.
      About the Crimea.
      It was impossible to take it so boorishly, spitting on the whole world, to take it away. It’s just that the GDP suffered from its own “coolness”, so he himself gave a reason to put pressure on our country. It was necessary to act with Crimea, as with South Ossetia. Yes - help kick out ukrovsk. Yes - to help organize their own government and state (under our supervision). Yes - to send troops under the agreement on the protection of Crimea. Yes - to issue Russian passports to everyone, as in South Ossetia. Sign a bunch of agreements with the Crimea on industry, development, etc. Those. to do everything that is happening now in Crimea. But. Formally, this would be a different state (even with 100% of our citizens), but there would be smooth bribes from Russia - they themselves had disconnected from the fascist Sumerians. We have nothing to do with it. We only protect them from inadequacy according to the agreements. There, the Albanians also disconnected and create their own state.
      Uh, what can I say now. It is bad when mediocrity, and even surrounded by greedy accomplices, rules the country. Fearfully. My children live here.
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      I am sure that this is not his merit, but the help of modern technology, stuck in the ear.
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    The Russians knew Putin’s name: he was “the director of the FSB, an influential person,” the journalist writes. But they were shocked; they did not know anything about him. After all, his entire career took place “outside the public sphere”. He was anyone, but not a politician, notes H. Ash. Thus, as a politician, he “was born exactly 20 years ago when Boris Yeltsin made him prime minister.”
    I would say that this is one of the key phrases in the article. Putin was not a famous politician with a long list of merit. He was simply appointed as a convenient candidate. And before that, I jumped from post to post, again, under the patronage of certain people.

    This is the question of the fact that in Russia there are supposedly no suitable candidates and Putin’s favorite phrase is “If not Putin, then who.” I also recall last year’s Internet battles when Grudinin was accused of “managing nothing but a state farm”, and “Putin has tremendous experience behind him.” Only Putin "didn’t come, but he did." And in this way, absolutely anyone can be dragged to power. From here I see no reason to admire Putin and his unprecedented "leadership qualities", about which we were rubbed from federal channels before the elections.
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      in this way, absolutely anyone can be dragged to power

      Poroshenko, for example. Or Zelensky. Or even Grudinin. Quite comparable figures, by the way.

      There will be a very convenient screen to mask the external governance of the country. When EBN passed already, no more stop

      Quote: Greenwood
      Putin "didn’t come, but come"

      Exactly. Behind Putin - a team that allowed us to turn off that path into the abyss along which the country was rolling under Bor-drunk.

      But bright and clear-eyed, unfortunately, do not understand it request
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        to mask the external governance of the country. When EBN passed already, no more
        What has changed now? Putin is even better in disguise. Looks like a patriotic card plays cool, half of the Russians are still underway.
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Behind Putin - a team that allowed us to turn off that path into the abyss along which the country was rolling under Bor-drunk.
        His EBN and dragged to power. And people who had influence on EBN. It is so funny to read how they are struggling to oppose Putin to Yeltsin. Especially regarding the "different teams."
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          His EBN and dragged to power. And people who had an influence on EBN

          They had a lot of reasons to regret it. laughing

          Quote: Greenwood
          Putin is even better disguise

          Yeah. Americans agree with you wink

          (aside): lifted up already bright and clear-eyed negative
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            Eh ... Somehow it was infa, that in order to mumble Rokhlin, they attracted one lieutenant colonel from the KGB .. Everything, I am silent, I am silent ... laughing
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        With Poroshenko past.
        He was quite famous as a politician, held ministerial posts for a long time.
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Exactly. Behind Putin - a team that allowed turn off that path into the abyss, which the country was rolling under during Bora-drunk.

        Of course. But some people think that since they didn’t fall, it’s draw merit and by itself formed
    2. tihonmarine 13 August 2019 09: 32 New
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      Only Putin "didn’t come, but he did."

      Only Stalin and Hitler came to power on their own, and the "collective farm" chose the rest.
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    Christian Ash in Spiegel Online spoke about the twentieth anniversary of the “Das System Putin”.

    And 14 years + 2 more years of Merkel’s rule is absolutely democratic.
    "Whose cow would mumble, and the German be silent."
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      And in order to please Merkel, the German constitution changed? Have the terms of a possible chancellor tenure been extended?
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        Quote: Greenwood
        And in order to please Merkel, the German constitution changed?

        The chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation have not changed since its adoption in the 1993 year, when no one had ever heard of Putin. If you mean an increase in the term of office of deputies of the Duma and the president, it wasn’t done for him, but for the next, otherwise it would have happened much earlier, and not at the last term.
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          under the subsequent, otherwise it would have happened much earlier, and not at the last date.
          Why? There is once again an attempt to leave Putin lawfully in power.
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            Why? There is once again an attempt to leave Putin lawfully in power.

            A couple of years longer? This is not serious.

            I would completely refuse to establish any term of stay of the manager in power, subject to a clear and realistically possible way to recall him.

            The assessment of the president’s activity should be evaluated not by his tactical actions, sometimes seeming to contradict any logic, but by strategic changes in society.

            "Everything happens in the best way, in accordance with the morality of all participants in the process."
            1. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 32 New
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              A couple of years longer? This is not serious.

              yeah, a couple of years that spanned 19 years!
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                yeah, a couple of years that spanned 19 years!

                Why so 19 and not 20? laughing

                ps
                Putin, with 1999 — 2000 and 2008 — 2012, was the chairman of the government of the Russian Federation.
                1. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 53 New
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                  1999–2000 and 2008–2012 he was the chairman of the government of the Russian Federation.

                  yeah, and everything was controlled by the zitz ​​chairman laughing
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                    yeah, and everything was controlled by the zitz ​​chairman

                    Well, guys from one clan laughing


                    What happened to Libya when President Medvedev was and what happened to Syria when President Putin. Is it really the same thing?

                    Why is Putin working with the Medvedev party (United Russia)? Because it is the only force capable of making and enforcing laws.
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                      What happened to Libya when President Medvedev was and what happened to Syria when President Putin.

                      and what happened to Georgia? Who gave the command?
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        And in order to please Merkel, the German constitution changed?

        If necessary it will be replaced, because there is the same "democracy" as elsewhere.
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        And in order to please Merkel, the German constitution changed? Have the terms of a possible chancellor tenure been extended?

        Well, someone changed her request
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      Quote: Amateur
      And 14 years + 2 more years of Merkel’s rule is absolutely democratic.
      "Whose cow would mumble, and the German be silent."

      And what is German? Putin himself once spoke about Kolya fellow
      From one leader, even as strong as Kohl, in 16 years any people, even as stable as the Germans, will tire.
      1. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 34 New
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        And what is German? Putin himself once spoke about Kolya fellow
        From one leader, even as strong as Kohl, in 16 years any people, even as stable as the Germans, will tire.

        he said a lot of things

        and as a result, parting with power turned into ...

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          This was the last term in a row. He was then Prime Minister wassat
  4. Rwmos 13 August 2019 05: 50 New
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    After this phrase:
    The first starts small: politician solves local issues, gaining confidence, gaining experience, then gradually moving on to major issues and occupying ever higher posts. This is the "classic way," the journalist believes, noting that this is the way today "the opposition is trying to go in Moscow».

    - Further you can not read this painful German nonsense. Just one example. What problem of Moscow did the opposition solve? Well, at least one?
    1. Alexander 555ru 13 August 2019 06: 34 New
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      Is there a problem in Moscow?
      1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 06: 40 New
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        Do you think that they are not? Let's start with traffic jams and parking spaces, for example ...
        1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 06: 52 New
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          Let's start with traffic jams and parking spaces, for example ...

          Yeah, such a rider sits behind the wheel, and complains about traffic jams. sad
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          Well yes, this is a problem I agree
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          Let's start with traffic jams and parking spaces
          Moscow has a developed public transport system. Here you and the metro (one of the best in the world), and trams, and trolleybuses, and a developed bus network, and even the Luzhkov monorail wiped off. I don’t understand why Moscow needs a private car.

          In the province, the theme of parking and traffic jams is much more acute, for example, in Vladivostok. We have few roads, there is really nowhere to build, no place. The density of cars is 2 times higher than in Moscow. Trolleybuses and trams are almost completely eliminated. Traffic jams around the city simply end. And, unlike Moscow, passing them by metro or tram will not work.
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            In addition to personal cars, there are also official ones. And when you scratch 2 hours from Tula to Moscow, and then crawl for 5 kilometers for TTX 2 hours too, your nails start to hurt and your teeth itch))) I noticed that I’m traveling from the office by public transport or car exactly the same amount , how much I go, and these are two metro stations)))
          2. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 07: 00 New
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            I don’t understand why Moscow needs a private car.

            What about show-offs? As I saw a crippled man on a four, he got in the back from behind a BMW, and let's scream all over the street with muggy men.
      2. Phil77 13 August 2019 06: 49 New
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        Is there a problem in Moscow?

        Come! Live! See for yourself. By the way, on the topic, the photo in the article is interesting: three on a motorcycle and all without helmets. There is no type for your laws?
        1. Greenwood 13 August 2019 07: 02 New
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          When Muscovites begin to complain about their problems, the inhabitants of the regions begin to chin trembling with laughter.
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            When residents of the regions whine that everything is bad with them, but in Moscow everything is fine - it always strikes me on rzhach. For example, if I take my friend from Saransk, whom I affectionately call the "good planter", she is a farmer, you would see her hacienda - some European countries are smaller! And what kind of thread is the classic office moth from Moscow, joining 4 walls from 8 to 8 in some kind of travel agency thread for 30 mowers per month and renting an apartment for 20 per month ... Yeah, everything is better in Moscow ...
            Work must, not whine!
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              Work must, not whine!

              Tell it to teachers, kindergarten teachers.
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                  1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 07: 49 New
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                    And I'm Ukrainian, then what? laughing I tell you - nowhere is honey smeared, neither with us, nor with you, anywhere! But you can turn around everywhere - here you need to catch your own ... Look, I have a friend ... He worked in the mayor's office, and not in the last roles. taught at Moscow State University ... Howl just from his work. He spat - and dumped in Rostselmash for less money, but from the bustle of Moscow - so I met him a year later - did not recognize. Then he ran as transparent as he could, eat himself there, already a blush appeared. even stopped balding. And you say shitty in the province. It's not the same for everybody...
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                      And you say shitty in the province. It's not the same for everybody...

                      Oh well. You, a Ukrainian, would tell this to my neighbor who threw back his hooves a year ago. He is a former university professor, a gold medalist, designed cartridge factories in 80 with Koshkin.
                      1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 08: 06 New
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                        So what? I, too, at one time in Moscow almost glued fins. In the "box" grabbed a dose. for a month bald. I thought - and dumped, but still alive ... Do you think I have not seen life here? I, for example, in 90. in the most shit, I worked in an ambulance, I can tell this - you’ll believe horseradish ... Really, here especially the pioneers - they do not believe in many things. they didn’t find such a thing ...
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                        Quote: RWMos
                        Ну и что?

                        Yes, nothing.
                        Quote: RWMos
                        In the "box" grabbed a dose. for a month bald. Thought - and dumped, but still alive ...

                        Wow, what a problem! In 86, we had strange rains with foam all May, no one complains.
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                        Oh damn! And I in Moscow in 90 myself personally caught dioxin emission in tap water, if not in the courses what it is, then I will remind you - orange and blue agents in Vietnam ... From which they are still born there ... More to say ? I have a working reactor under my house. Yet? On Vernadka, right in the city, right next to the houses there is a radioactive waste repository from ITEP. Continue? I can, I’m an environmentalist by my second education, I know ...
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                      10. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 08: 50 New
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                        Yeah, Starkov’s brother-in-law laid a lawn in my home school. How much dough was spent there, no longer count.
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                        Our Makeev also laid down the lawn in his former sports school and sponsored the former club ... Glushakov also laid the lawn in his Millerovo ... Both Spartacus ... In general, Spartak, besides his school, is still closely connected with two FNL clubs - Chertanovo and Labor Reserves. Although Reserves are already the second league ...
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          You can talk about Moscow life as bad as you like, but you just can’t understand that most of Moscow’s “problems” exist in the regions, sometimes even more aggravated. And besides these “problems” there is still a bunch of REAL problems with infrastructure, transport, jobs, salaries, prices, etc., which are not in Moscow.
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          You can not tell me. I’m working with the regions, somehow in the courses ...
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          somehow in the courses ...
          It’s one thing to “work” with the regions, another thing is to live in them.
  • Greenwood 13 August 2019 08: 23 New
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    you would see her hacienda
    Our percentage of the rural population is very low in relation to the urban population. Most just huddle in 4 walls.
    Quote: RWMos
    And what kind of thread is a classic office moth from Moscow, which runs in 4 walls from 8 to 8 in which thread of a travel agency for 30 mowers per month and while renting an apartment for 20 per month
    30k ??? In Moscow??? Where did you see such snp there?
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    When residents of the regions whine that everything is bad with them, but in Moscow everything is fine - it always strikes me on rzhach.

    Rzhzh also breaks me when the mind how much is allocated from the budget of Moscow per person (168 thousand rubles), and for example in Volgograd (20 thousand). Well, very funny:
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      belay In your regions, they also give out something to someone. Now I don’t understand. Either the people in our region are so rich, or something requestwe didn’t hear about the discharge
  • carstorm 11 13 August 2019 09: 00 New
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    you may have. Let's start, for example, with housing prices, which are several times more expensive than in the regions.
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      Let's start, for example, with housing prices, which are several times more expensive than in the regions.
      It depends on which regions. For example, prices in Vladivostok have already caught up with St. Petersburg and are closely approaching Moscow. Dvushka in the five-story building of 1965 for 5 lyam? Easy. Treshka for 7-8. Same way.
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    When Muscovites begin to complain about their problems, the inhabitants of the regions begin to chin trembling with laughter.

    And I thought we were so different wassat
  • Gardamir 13 August 2019 08: 04 New
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    Is there a problem in Moscow?
    Yes, at least. When I return home at 21 p.m. in the evening, it seems to me that I am the only Russian in the world.
    1. Greenwood 13 August 2019 08: 27 New
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      We have the same thing in Vladivostok. Half of the city of Uzbeks / Azeri / Chechens. Plus the crowds of Chinese (though mostly tourists). As a result, the hodgepodge is still.
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    Just one example. What problem of Moscow did the opposition solve?

    The dirty cowards of power turned out. So far, only that. For all this dirty game in the elections to the Moscow City Duma, I want to say one thing - for all my dislike of these opposition figures, we have a kind of democracy. Those. People power. And EdRo has already "lifted up" by its monopoly in all government bodies. All these snickering bureaucrats are too divorced from reality and from the interests of the people.
    Those few who still believe in Putin absolutely do not believe in his government. Naive, still believe in a cunning plan and a good king. It’s high time now to cast aside the illusions and understand that the GDP and the environment are one team, and the tricky plan is to play a performance about the good and bad cops. hi
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        1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 07: 35 New
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          From her stool, power is neither cold nor hot. As well as from the howls of the unemployed Navalny, who, having not been working for six months 8, flew off on vacation, well, bullshit, honest worker! He opened the eyes of the people to the fact that all the children of the elite are studying beyond the boogie, not that of him. Navralny! My daughter is practically in Russia at the institute, only in Boston ... Donkeys applaud such a manifestation of patriotism
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            unemployed Navalny, who had not been working for six months 8 flew off on vacation, well, bang, honest worker!

            Bulk on some videos in YouTube collects good pennies.
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              Bulk on some videos in YouTube collects good pennies.

              Yes, such "videos" in YouTube at least a dime a dozen! But something is not noticeable for bloggers to “fatten” with them! First they ask alms from subscribers, then "likes"!
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                Yes, such "videos" in YouTube at least a dime a dozen! But something is not noticeable for bloggers to “fatten” with them!

                But no. They pay for a thousand views somewhere around 90 rubles. A bulk collects millions of views.
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            As well as from the howls of the unemployed Navalny, who, without working for six months 8 times, flew off on vacation, well, bastard, honest worker!

            I repeat the question - did the power become cleaner from the number of Navalny’s trips on vacation, and from his “honestly earned income”? At least someone denied the facts of corruption voiced in his films?
            Do not wig aside, answering in the style of "he himself is." For me, all of them in one step are necessary.
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              I repeat the question ... Do not wig to the side ...

              Man, who do you think you are? Purely urban laughing

              You remind me more and more now resting in peace Alton ...
              1. Ingvar 72 13 August 2019 07: 52 New
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                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Purely urban

                As usual Kitty, chatter pr anything, just off topic. The "processor" does not pull on more thoughtful answers? wink
                1. Cat man null 13 August 2019 09: 02 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  As usual Kitty, chatter pr anything, just off topic

                  There are no smart answers to stupid questions request

                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  The "processor" does not pull on more thoughtful answers?

                  The processor has a ton of other concerns besides educating the stray "type of economists" laughing

                  Tie a peep ... I do not like.
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                    What is the stupidity of the question, kitty? Or do you stupidly call all questions stupid, which you are not able to intelligently answer? wink
            2. Rwmos 13 August 2019 08: 14 New
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              I repeat the answer - Bulk did not do anything. unlike the authorities, which made the country completely unlike the squalor that the Navralny’s predecessors made, controlled by the same owner as Anal with Lyubka the Scribe, made the country. Do not remember how in the 1999 year the Russian Federation asked the USA for a loan of some bread? And peacekeepers in Kosovo, after being thrown to the airfield, begged the defense ministry to pay at least 100 bucks so that they could collect the children for school?
              Here Navalny can recall this, since he gets to power.
              I answered you. And now YOU answer me: what is the use of these bulked bulk? Do not wag, call a specific benefit without spreading your thoughts through the tree. And do not make a blizzard about the "recovery of society" - specifically. than healed, profit in numbers! I'm waiting.
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                which made the country completely unlike that squalor
                Completely different? It is completely unlike the USSR. But with Russia in the late 90s there is a lot in common. All the same unstable ruble, all the same economy dependent on oil, all the same constantly rising prices, all the same semi-wild capitalism with a low standard of living (except that the then brothers dressed in suits from Armani and now sit in administrations, city halls and thoughts) . The constitution is also the same, written overseas. And people in general are the same in power, or those children and students of those. Inadvertently, monuments to the first president are erected and Soviet times are reproached.
                Oh yes, oil in the late 90s cost much less than in the early 00s, that’s the whole difference.
                Quote: RWMos
                what kind of country did Navralny's predecessors make, controlled by the same owner as Anal with Lyubka Scribe.
                And the followers of these predecessors (well, that is, those who are now in power) dramatically changed the owner chtoli?
                Quote: RWMos
                And the peacekeepers in Kosovo, after throwing at the airport, begged the defense ministry to pay at least 100 bucks so that they could collect the children for school?
                Security forces raised sn, I do not argue. It is necessary that the authorities have protection.
                Quote: RWMos
                And now YOU answer me: what is the use of these bulked bulk?
                Navalny quite well unlawfully reveals the sins of high-ranking officials sitting in the highest echelons of power. The problem is that in some Japan or South Korea, such investigations would attract the attention of law enforcement agencies that would initiate a real investigation into the activities of a minister or deputy. It works for them: the arrest of the president of South Korea is a prime example. In our country, the government prefers to remain silent, which only confirms its rotten essence.
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                  Well, so that Navalny does not sue since he opened some sins there? He is not allowed to start a business? Was it refused to initiate at least one? So he revealed there, where are the facts? Concrete facts. with whom can I go to court? No? Then it is called cle-ve-ta.
                  Do not be distracted, I asked for a specific answer - what Navralny did specifically and asked DO NOT FORK. I don’t need tales about power - I asked a clear question, you started to bustle.
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                    Quote: RWMos
                    Concrete facts. with whom can I go to court? No? Then it is called cle-ve-ta.

                    A-NO they have NOTHING. One CHAPTER and eternal cry.

                    And put them on the same top, so HAPPN that eyes on everyone’s forehead will climb ....
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                    Well, so that Navalny does not sue since he opened some sins there?
                    In an interview, he said that they appealed to the courts, to the prosecutor's office. But such things are not given progress, they are denied under various pretexts.
                    Quote: RWMos
                    Then it is called cle-ve-ta.
                    And what is the slander? Inquiries from Rosreestr?
                    Quote: RWMos
                    Navralny did specifically and asked DO NOT FORK
                    Navalny is not a politician, he is a lawyer and journalist. What specific actions do you expect from him?
                    1. Rwmos 14 August 2019 02: 09 New
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                      What a foolish nonsense ... A lawyer is not able to initiate proceedings ... Because he is not a politician ... Despite the fact that he could have come to the ECHR, for example, by the rules ... If he had been a lawyer, but he was not , I probably bought a diploma - I’ve done two things in my life, I merged both enchantingly.
                      What a fabulous nonsense about refusing to initiate proceedings. When and what business who refused to initiate? But there was no such thing.
                      So, we have: after it didn’t come out wagging, we switched to a direct lie, in which we were caught red-handed. Keep a well-earned minus for proven lies.
                    2. Mordvin 3 14 August 2019 03: 23 New
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                      I probably bought a diploma

                      You better ask where Putin’s diploma came from. Lawyer... laughing
                  3. igorbrsv 14 August 2019 06: 37 New
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                    Doesn’t Navalny climb into power by hook or by crook. He is not a politician? No? Who can be called a politician? Bad politician - I agree
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            At least someone denied the facts of corruption voiced in his films?

            And these are the facts? Or reflections? If the facts, then why Navalny does not turn to the prosecutor? With the delegation, under the cameras so that everyone can see - is it that a person is not just grinding his tongue, but is he ready to defend his arguments in court?
            1. Ingvar 72 13 August 2019 08: 31 New
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              Bulk with his thoughts undermines the authority of the authorities. If this is not true of course. wink And he needs to be attracted for libel. But they are attracted by completely different articles. Don't you think Zolotov’s answer to Navalny’s accusations is at least strange? And he still holds his post.
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                If this is not true of course. And he needs to be attracted for libel. But they are attracted by completely different articles.

                If each balobol is attracted "for libel" social networks are empty) Do you not agree?)
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Don't you think Zolotov’s answer to Navalny’s accusations is at least strange? And he still holds his post.

                Uh ... What is strange? What did he publicly offer Navalny pestilence ... to fill his face? So if Zolotov would silently arrange a scuffle, then all the “dogs” would be hanged on him (Zolotov), ​​starting from abuse of authority and ending with bodily (possibly grievous bodily) injuries. And so he suggested to the public Navalny "to answer for words." Navalny agrees - there are no complaints against Zolotov. All by mutual agreement. Or do you think it was necessary to sue? So to Navalny only this is necessary - to force the authorities to EXPLAIN in the courts. Note that Navalny does not go to court himself in order to prove someone's guilt, he forces him to make excuses. Psychology. The person is not formally charged, and he makes excuses. Something is wrong here ... But Navalny only needs this. He’ll shoot more videos. With that, he himself will neither go to court nor the prosecutor’s office. Most likely because there is nothing to go with. Therefore, it is necessary to drag someone else into court so that he himself proves that "he is not a camel."
                1. Ingvar 72 13 August 2019 09: 01 New
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                  Some kind of not smart answer you have. I directly pointed out to you that Navalny was destroying the authority of power, and you started about saying that you should not pay attention to all sorts of nonsense. Is it possible to initiate proceedings for insulting the authorities, but for allegedly falsehoods? belay
                  1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 09: 12 New
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                    You can’t ... They will conquer about the arbitrariness of power, because the banal and not on the bunks
                  2. Loess 13 August 2019 09: 15 New
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                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Some kind of not smart answer you have. I directly pointed out to you that Navalny’s destruction of the authority of power,

                    And before that, you claimed that Navalny had "facts" ... And then - yes, then you turned to "authority" and Zolotov ... If you want "smart" answers - express yourself more precisely and do not answer the question with a question.
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Is it possible to initiate proceedings for insulting the authorities, but for allegedly falsehoods?

                    It would be necessary, of course, but I wrote about this above, read it carefully.
                  3. Ingvar 72 13 August 2019 09: 46 New
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                    We’ll fantasize. The year 1937, the newspaper truth published an article on the facts of corruption of a number of statesmen. What do you think would be the trial in this regard?
                    I am sure that would be. And be sure to shoot someone. Either a false accuser or exposed characters.
                    Sechin is a private individual, but there were also no lawsuits from him, on the protection of honor and dignity.
                    I don’t see the point of supporting the discussion - no matter how much power is obstructed, no matter how crazy laws are adopted, no matter how much money is “mastered”, you and your colleagues will lick everything here. How much do you get paid, I wonder?
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                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    you and your colleagues are licking everything here.

                    Here is any dialogue with you and "your colleagues" ... A couple of questions and answers and you go on to rudeness. Arguments quickly running out?
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    How much do you get paid, I wonder?

                    And then they get paid? So I was deceived here too ... I hope you aren’t deceived with payments.
                    PS
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                    We’ll fantasize. 1937-th year, the newspaper really published an article

                    Then there was such a “freedom of speech" that the journalist was responsible for EVERY word. And, accordingly, it printed exactly the facts that he could prove, and not something that would come into his head.
                    Now YOU are one of the first to raise a “cry” after introducing responsibility “for insulting the authorities”. But this is one of the first little steps to return TOE “freedom of speech” from the 37 year. You do not observe contradictions in your position?
            2. Olgovich 13 August 2019 12: 14 New
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              So Navalny is the only thing necessary - force the authorities to EXPLAIN in the courts. Note that Navalny does not go to court himself in order to prove someone's guilt, he forces him to make excuses. Psychology. The person is not formally charged, and he makes excuses. Something is wrong hereto ... But Navalny only needs that.

              Perfectly noticed
    2. Varyag71 13 August 2019 09: 20 New
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      Almost the entire state apparatus, children live, study and even serve TAM ...
      1. Victor N 13 August 2019 17: 32 New
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        Without specific facts - this is a typical TAG !!!
        1. Greenwood 14 August 2019 01: 58 New
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          “Our officials and deputies are aware of the horrors of the decaying West firsthand. We can be sure of this. Here is a list of those who have real estate and / or children abroad.

          Vladimir Yakunin (ex-head of Russian Railways, a member of the cooperative "Lake") - lives in Germany, his eldest son Andrei became a subject of Great Britain, and the youngest Victor - a Cypriot.

          Andrey Fursenko (ex-minister of education) - son Alexander lives in the USA.

          Boris Gryzlov (ex-speaker of the State Duma, member of the Security Council) - the daughter lives in Tallinn, received Estonian citizenship.

          Pavel Astakhov (as the ombudsman under the President of the Russian Federation for the Rights of the Child, "protecting" our orphans from adoption by foreigners) - the children are one in France, the other in England.

          Sergey Zheleznyak (State Duma deputy from EP, bills on the placement of personal data on Russian servers, blocking torrents, etc.) - both daughters - Anastasia and Elizaveta - live in the UK, the eldest works for BBC News.

          Sergey Lavrov (Foreign Minister) - daughter Catherine was born and raised in New York, graduated from Columbia University, where she studied political science, and a master's degree in economics in London.

          Irina Rodnina (State Duma deputy from EP) - daughter Alena lives in Washington, USA, worked for Russia Today.

          Vladimir Pekhtin (ex-deputy, chairman of the State Duma’s commission on parliamentary ethics, deputy chairman of the State Duma, first deputy chairman of the United Russia faction) - lives with his son in Miami, USA.

          Vyacheslav Fetisov (First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Physical Culture, Sports, Tourism and Youth Affairs, First Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Social Policy) - the daughter grew up and studied in the United States. I did not learn to write and read in Russian.

          Alexander Remezkov (State Duma deputy) - the eldest son Stepan graduated from a military college in the USA, enrolled at Hofstra Private University in New York, middle Nikolai - studies in the UK at Malvern College private school, daughter Masha lives in Vienna, where she does gymnastics.

          Elena Rakhova (deputy of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg, who called the Leningraders who lived less than 120 days in blockade “unblockers”) - Polina’s daughter lives in the United States.

          Alexey Vorontsov (deputy of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg, communist) - the daughter lives in Italy, where she moved from Germany.

          Elena Mizulina (State Duma deputy, chairman of the State Duma committee on family, women and children, a fiery fighter with gay propaganda and foreign adoption of orphans) - son - co-owner of the law firm Mayer Brown in Brussels, Belgium. Two grandchildren, of course, in the same place.

          Valery Seleznev (State Duma deputy from the LDPR) - son Roman sentenced to 27 years in prison in the United States for cyber fraud.

          Gennady Timchenko (Vice-President of the Russian Olympic Committee, one of the “kings of state orders” and the largest exporter of Russian oil) is a Finnish citizen, and his wife and daughter too. Since 2014, under sanctions, forced to reside in the Russian Federation.

          Alexander Zhukov (First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, President of the Russian Olympic Committee (2010-2018)) - son Peter lived in New York and London, was also sentenced to 14 months in prison and fined (7500 pounds) for beating a Briton.

          Vladimir Blotsky (State Duma deputy from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, member of the Committee on Land Relations) - has a plot the size of more than a hectare and a house with an area of ​​312 sq.m. In Great Britain.

          Olga Golodets (Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation) - an apartment and a house in Italy, half of the cottage (220m2) in Switzerland.

          Andrey Golushko (State Duma deputy from EP) - an elite house with its own pool in the town of Mougins on the Cote d'Azur near Cannes.

          Lev Kuznetsov (ex-minister for the affairs of the North Caucasus) - in France there are 5 households with a total area of ​​432 m2 and a land area of ​​3,4 thousand m2.

          Andrey Klishas (Member of the Federation Council, plenipotentiary representative of the Federation Council in the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation and the General Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation) - home ownership with a total area of ​​432 m2 and a land plot of 543 m2 in Switzerland

          Mikhail Abyzov (Secretary of State for Open Government) - A son and daughter use a residential building in the UK.

          Dmitry Saveliev (State Duma deputy from EP, member of the State Duma Committee on Health, member of the State Duma Committee on Natural Resources, Environmental Management and Ecology, member of the Federation Council Committee on Budget and Financial Markets) - a house with an area of ​​489,3 square meters in England.

          Nikolay Valuev (State Duma deputy from EP, First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Ecology and Environmental Protection) - 95m2 house in Spain.

          Svetlana Khorkina (ex-State Duma deputy from EP, Colonel, vice president of the Russian Federation of Artistic Gymnastics) - gave birth to a son, Svyatoslav in Los Angeles, USA, thereby providing him with American citizenship.

          Igor Lebedev (State Duma deputy from the LDPR, Deputy State Duma chairman, son of Vladimir Zhirinovsky) - an undeclared apartment in Dubai with an area of ​​442 m2 in a luxurious skyscraper on the shores of the Arabian Gulf.
          1. Victor N 14 August 2019 10: 30 New
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            A solid list! But, nevertheless, this is not the entire state apparatus. I do not approve those who left, but ....... I rather feel sorry for them.
            1. Varyag71 14 August 2019 11: 31 New
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              And they don't give a damn about you. You are a fly for them. And this list is only the smallest part.
  • depressant 13 August 2019 10: 59 New
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    Ingvar 72, in continuation of your thoughts about the good and bad cops.
    Putin’s “good cop” suggests Medvedev’s government increase pensions by 2019% in 7. In pursuance of decrees.
    The government, and it is a "bad cop", shrugs its hands and says: on average, every pensioner needs to dump as much as 9528 rubles a year! We cannot sell excess oil and gas abroad for this business - the agreements have already been concluded.
    Think! - Putin answers.
    Government wise men thought and decided to increase VAT by 2%, as well as excise rates and introduce additional fiscal burdens.
    They counted and rubbed their hands joyfully: Vladimir Vladimirovich, it worked! Manages to collect as much as 925 billion rubles! And pensioners need only 407 billion of them, so that the 7% you ordered come out. And even 518 billion for tea sweets remain.
    Well, Putin answered, you know how when you want. In general, well done!
    But Putin and his gallant government did not take into account that the average pensioner buys exactly the same goods as the rest of the country's citizens. Therefore, an increase in VAT, excise rates and an increase in fiscal loads takes 6335 rubles per annum from his pocket. Like all other citizens of the country, including infants. Therefore, out of the 9528 rubles put in that pensioner's pocket, 6335 rubles will be taken away by stores, if not more. Total remains in that retirement pocket 3193 rubles. And this is not 7% ​​per annum, but 0,8%.
    At the same time, the whole country was robbed.
    Damn, Putin and the government said amicably. It seems that we messed up somewhere. And they added with hope: but the people would be sympathetic, not?
    We understand, we understand ...
    Question: where will the "extra" 518 billion stolen from the population go? On candy oligarchs sweeten their life? They suffer so much, so suffer from lost profits in the domestic market!
  • New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 40 New
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    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Naive, still believe in a cunning plan and a good king.

    many wake up

    By the way, the policeman who beat the woman

    , handed over to the press his colleagues. So that
    "water and stone sharpen"
  • Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 11: 44 New
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    'Grandson of curator of election fraud (https://t.me/rospres/6905), member of the Central Election Commission Boris Ebzeev, personally gave half a billion for 2-story apartments (274 m) on Ostozhenka. The seven-year-old wunderkind oligarch Arthur Ebzeev bought an estate for 200 million in Gorki-8 for this apartment and housing on Rublevka. The father of a talented boy, Boris Borisovich Ebzeev, the good Karachay grandfather Ebzeev Sr. presented the position of the top manager of the Pension Fund (https://t.me/rospres/3766) and gave him control over the energy sector. '
    The opposition has done something.
  • Teacher67 13 August 2019 07: 34 New
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    I can’t get from these Kremlin bots, how can the opposition solve a problem when it does not have real access to power and state administration?
    1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 07: 44 New
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      Can't you, daughter of an officer? And then go and tell the Germans that they lied all by saying. that popazitsiya solves some problems of Moscow - the Germans said it!
      "I’m an institute, I’m the daughter of an officer,
      I'm a black mole, I'm a bat.
      Wine and men are my atmosphere.
      The refuge of immigrants - free Paris "
      1. Teacher67 13 August 2019 08: 20 New
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        What are the daughters of an officer? What kind of Germans? Or are you all who do not agree with the agents of the State Department and write down the maydanuty? You at least arrange trainings there, how to look more like people, and not with the same phrases: "Putin is handsome," "who if not Putin," etc.
        1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 08: 29 New
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          Read the article first ... Especially gifted - this is a quote from there:
          According to Herra AsheThere are two ways to politics. The first starts small: politician solves local issues, gaining confidence, gaining experience, then gradually moving on to major issues and occupying ever higher posts. This is the "classic way," the journalist believes, noting that this is the way today "the opposition is trying to go in Moscow».

          In the training manual about the Germans it is not said, but for that. to comment, you do not need to read the article - enough manuals ...
      2. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 43 New
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        Quote: RWMos
        And then go and tell the Germans that they lied all by saying. that popazitsiya solves some problems of Moscow - the Germans said it!

        are you from these?
        1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 17: 44 New
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          Are you one of these?
          1. New Year day 13 August 2019 18: 26 New
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            I am in the middle. You are an extreme lover
            1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 18: 35 New
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              A bold statement, go to analysts to Zelensky - they like to make inferences there. not based on anything. Bam, and recorded the interlocutor to extremes! And why? Because one point of view is acceptable on Putin - he is a bastard! Who thinks otherwise, we write in the Kremlin boat, the other options are dumb! Here we are, mediators! ... and the halo corrected
              1. New Year day 14 August 2019 01: 20 New
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                Quote: RWMos
                Bold statement, go to analysts to Zelensky

                Can’t you think? Only under someone's roof strive to jump? In the same way, you can send you to retrain to Volodin, he already thought for you.
                Quote: RWMos
                Because one point of view is acceptable on Putin - he is a bastard!

                having gone a difficult way from loving him and waiting to today's feelings for him, you see, a person was either like that and pretended to be bronzed and harmful to the country. As a person, he is not interesting to me, everything is clear with him. It is interesting what will happen after him. The story of Humpback did not teach you?
                As a person, GDP has its own resource and it will end if you do not clone it. And who is in his place? Chekists- cemetery roof? Somehow not camillo. GDP has dried up and leads to a standstill, this is clear even to the blind. And who does not understand, will soon understand
                1. Rwmos 14 August 2019 01: 41 New
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                  Firstly. I am not a political scientist or economist, which clearly suggests that before drawing conclusions. At first it’s worth listening to the professionals, while in my own conclusions, I should avoid being categorical.
                  I give a hint - but then I taught psychology professionally and in two educational institutions. And you? Nevertheless, it is YOU who categorically categorize in this area. Is the hint clear?
                  in the second part, and how does Humpback look like Putin? Not to mention the fact that the main direction of the course of the Russian Federation under Putin is the elimination of wild capitalism. With the increasing role of the state in industry and the financial sector of the country. And as for the financial sector. Reforms began ONLY in the 2012 year. and the main change is about 2016 year (banks enlargement with the elimination of many little things that are not able to finance anything larger than the store). And where did you see "ended?"
                  Can you give arguments? So far from you - not a single one. Pure propaganda is unfounded ... "In the middle", yes ...
                  1. New Year day 14 August 2019 01: 43 New
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                    Quote: RWMos
                    At first it’s worth listening to the professionals, while in my own conclusions, I should avoid being categorical.

                    Better to see once than hear a hundred times. Without political scientists, the brain does not work?
                    Quote: RWMos
                    and how does Humpback look like Putin?

                    ending
                    Quote: RWMos
                    Nevertheless, it is YOU who categorically categorize in this area. Is the hint clear?

                    An officer, or just a man beating a woman, is a jerk. This is without any conventions. If you encourage it, then who are you?
                    1. Rwmos 14 August 2019 01: 49 New
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                      Clear. The arguments are zero. It is the brain that does not work. With the ending together, which ending is not.
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                      Clear. The arguments are zero. It is the brain that does not work. With the ending together, which ending is not.

                      He who has eyes - let him see ..
                      He who has ears - let him hear ..

                      Look at their deeds, for you will know by their deeds.
                      After all, they build temples of gold, instead of building the temples of God in man.
                      After all, they follow worldly lusts and worship worldly, but do not worship the divine.

                      Beloved ones, the truth is simple: treat the other as you want to be treated.
                      Would I kill myself?
                      Would I like to be killed this way?
                      Would you like to be killed the way you kill another?
                      Verily I say unto you, do not kill the other, because all is one, the other is you.
                      If there is a head - understand without hints, if not - the trumpet is a matter
  • Varyag71 14 August 2019 11: 34 New
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    So it is written in their manuals. They themselves do not know how to think.
  • Ilya-spb 13 August 2019 05: 52 New
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    Russia and Putin need a successor!

    Are they looking for him? Do they cook it? We will find out in 4 years.
    1. Mikhail Malakhov 13 August 2019 05: 55 New
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      Russia once with successors came to 1917 .. History does not teach anything
      1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 06: 00 New
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        Didn’t you write the article to the Germans? Achinea of ​​the same order, who was there whose successor was in the 17 year? lol
        1. Mikhail Malakhov 13 August 2019 06: 04 New
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          The monarchy was, uncle .. When power was inherited ...
          Do not remember?
          1. Rwmos 13 August 2019 06: 15 New
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            Ahhh ... But I thought you were talking about the Grand Dukes, who scored a bolt of succession after Colonel Romanov renounced the crown. Which led to the bloody mess
            1. aybolyt678 13 August 2019 07: 36 New
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              Quote: RWMos
              Which led to the bloody mess

              The dominance of foreign capital (investment) in tsarist Russia led to a bloody mess. After all, even the extraction of gold was in the hands of the British. Under Putin, too, all hopes for investment
        2. Mikhail Malakhov 13 August 2019 06: 06 New
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          In the 20th century, Russia was already falling apart 2 times due to the fact that the authorities did not want to change anything in time ..
          It would seem that conclusions can be drawn
          1. aybolyt678 13 August 2019 06: 20 New
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            Quote: Mikhail Malakhov
            In the 20th century, Russia was already falling apart 2 times

            major politicians of the past changed points of support in time: Ivan the Terrible put the boyars on the stake, Peter1 cut them and forced them to serve, Catherine sent them to disgrace, Stalin cleaned up former experts on undermining the political system, and Putin takes care of his own.
            1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 06: 29 New
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              Quote: aybolyt678
              Putin protects his.

              Reliable bros ... wink

            2. Loess 13 August 2019 08: 27 New
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              Quote: aybolyt678
              Ivan the Terrible put on the number of boyars, Peter 1 cut them and forced them to serve, Catherine sent in disgrace, Stalin cleaned up former specialists

              If Grozny put everyone on a stake, then who did Peter make him serve? And Catherine for whom the decree "on liberty of the nobility" issued? Well, Stalin (I never condemn, by the way) went the simple way - to “clean” is easier than making people serve.
              1. aybolyt678 13 August 2019 12: 55 New
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                If Grozny put everyone on a stake,

                some kind of you, radical ... he didn’t plant all, he selectively, exponentially,
            3. Nikolaevich I 14 August 2019 02: 45 New
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              and Putin protects his.

              Or maybe they cherish it while they need it?
    2. Galleon 13 August 2019 06: 19 New
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      If the political field is weeded out, those who climbed out on it are pulled out, and there are either hangmen with posts and mandates, or YouTube opposition, then the "saving word" "successor" appears.
      And there should be no successor - a figure arranging the existing clans, but there should be fair elections and candidates who want to work for the people. And not figures obligated and working for those who raised them upstairs. Like the same current one.
      1. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 07: 24 New
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        Putin around him left only those who support him. And for this it allows you to steal millions and billions, who sits where. Everyone who goes against him is thrown out of power and from the feeder. The Communists and the Liberal Democratic Party are political pro ... (corrupt women), you can’t even call them opposition.
        So, for 20 years and scum scrubbed around Putin’s political field, only thieves remained around him.
        1. aybolyt678 14 August 2019 05: 28 New
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          So, for 20 years and scum scrubbed around Putin’s political field, only thieves remained around him.

          not thieves, but bablonavts .. they don’t steal money, they just have it. smile
    3. Gardamir 13 August 2019 08: 09 New
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      We will find out in 4 years.
      a long term outlined. Enough of a year.
      1. carstorm 11 13 August 2019 09: 03 New
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        well, dreamers)))
    4. New Year day 13 August 2019 11: 44 New
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      Quote: Ilya-spb
      Are they looking for him? Do they cook it? We will find out in 4 years.

      Do you think that the GDP will find something better than himself? Naive!
      1. Nikolaevich I 14 August 2019 02: 42 New
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        Quote: Silvestr
        Do you think that the GDP will find something better than himself?

        Yes, where does the "better-worse" ?! Looking for what you need! Yeltsin found it! wink
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      Quote: Ilya-spb
      Are they looking for him? Do they cook it? We learn through 4 of the year.

      So these are not imported boots in the USSR! What to look for him?
  • aybolyt678 13 August 2019 06: 17 New
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    Putin’s Munich speech is something that inspires respect. However, as a substitute. It does not act in the interests of the masses of the population, but in the interests of the big bablonavts. The conclusion involuntarily begs - maybe he himself is a money bag?
    1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 06: 34 New
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      Quote: aybolyt678
      The conclusion involuntarily begs - maybe he himself is a money bag?

      This should be asked by musician Roldugin. sad
    2. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 07: 31 New
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      Putin's yachts:
    3. New Year day 14 August 2019 01: 25 New
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      Quote: aybolyt678
      Putin’s Munich speech is something that inspires respect. However, as a substitute.

      remember his words about "Russian Spring". Then a Swiss banker came to him (his name was forgotten) and the “spring” was over.
      Quote: aybolyt678
      It does not act in the interests of the masses of the population, but in the interests of the big bablonavts. The conclusion involuntarily begs - maybe he himself is a money bag?

      the conclusion suggests itself
  • Ross xnumx 13 August 2019 06: 32 New
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    Over his twenty years in the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin has proven himself to be a true “judo champion”.

    And all that was needed was to show himself to be a leader and a real statesman. The vertical of power built by Putin cannot fulfill its direct purpose without the presence of the "builder-guarantor." Only his guarantees for some reason change at the whim of the minority, and the promised rights and freedoms are suppressed in such a way that there is no reason to talk about any equal rights for Russian citizens.
    So in the last photo the leader is in the company of "loafers". Or will someone convince me right now that the “pretty guys” standing nearby are the creators of a bright capitalist future, the creators of the country's history? Have mercy! History remembers Peter I and Catherine, and among the jesters only Ivan Alekseevich Balakirev was singled out.
    There are those who want to answer, why does Mr. Putin prefer the company of burners to the company of creators?
    Putin expanded Sino-Russian partnership and made Moscow “more needed” for Beijing by "Strengthening military cooperation." Undoubtedly, Russia is a “junior partner” in these relations, if we recall the “asymmetry” between the economies of the Russian Federation and China.

    We know this way - the transfer of Russian territory to the use of a neighboring state and the undivided use by the Chinese of Russia's natural resources, the rights of the people to which are determined by the constitution. Result? And here I am:

    But Xi Jinping, the authoritarian leader of China, "never criticizes [Putin] and does not dispute his domestic policy." But China "is increasingly at odds with the United States."

    And what, China has already recognized the integrity of the territory of Russia, burned maps where Siberia and the Far East - the Chinese patrimony?
    Such judo techniques are interesting - limitless repayment due to the dying nation. Sacred sacrifices. The impression that the Russian people are not their own for Putin does not disappear. They are trying to come to an agreement with their own people (for example, with the oligarchs - pay 13% and no one will touch you, or with RF - you will get ₽ 60 rubles and writing off gas debts and ... to help you, or with ...)
    Everything is based on garlic, everything is according to concepts ... Russia simply cannot imagine itself without a leader:
    Such as Putin, full of strength,
    Such as Putin, so as not to drink.
    Such as Putin, so as not to offend.
    Such as Putin, so as not to run away.

    And where will he run away? After 2024, they’ll come up with something - they don’t leave their there, they “throw” strangers there ...
    1. Aerodrome 13 August 2019 07: 01 New
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      Putin makes the impossible-possible! Respect is simple!)))))
      1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 07: 04 New
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        It is Medvedev's fault. The king does not know anything. repeat
        1. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 07: 36 New
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          Again I ask:
          If you believe the government, then there are no questions.
          If you do not believe the government, then why do you believe that they claim that Telegram is evil?
          Read the channels on Telegram and you will know what the thieves' government is.
      2. Svarog 13 August 2019 09: 05 New
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        Quote: Aerodrome
        Putin makes the impossible-possible! Respect is simple!)))))

        The president has in fact proved that he is not responsible for his words. So if the president himself does not answer and does not fulfill, then what does he say / promise, what to expect from the government?
    2. WIKI 13 August 2019 09: 49 New
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      After years 2024

      Nothing will change. "Thieves will steal, talkers will talk, professors will write theories, and those who are dumber will just work." We built kleptocracy - the power of thieves and scammers. - Satanovsky E.Ya
  • Mihail55 13 August 2019 06: 35 New
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    Everything is very difficult! People are conservative in nature. It would not get worse ...
    After all, memory cannot be taken away. And the memory of the constant CHOICE. Choice 1917 ... 60s ... 80s ... 90s and our time.
    I remember from childhood the conversations of grannies on a bench near the house: "... if only there was no war! ..." They were tormented ... they knew and evaluated. Someone who believes that it is worth rocking, lighting, story and BREAK ... "we are ours, we will build a new world ...". Blood, suffering and sorrow ... are all ready for this? I do not exaggerate, the story goes in a spiral
    1. aybolyt678 13 August 2019 17: 05 New
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      Quote: Michael55
      And the memory of the constant CHOICE

      Putin made a choice. In his speech at the SPIEF, in the final part he acknowledged that the Western model of civilization won. By this, he acknowledged that the Soviet model had lost, that he was not betting on China, that if there was a victory, then there was a battle! which I don’t remember, I remember the deception ..
      But the trouble is that there is no prospect! Capitalism is gradually devaluing the value of human life, translating it into the category of material values, ensuring the satisfaction of needs but does not ensure the spiritual development, and social significance of man. This contradicts the inner core that distinguishes precisely Russian civilization, where there is self-sacrifice and mutual assistance.
  • parusnik 13 August 2019 06: 37 New
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    Champion outside, loser inside. Western analysts see Putin as something like this. The "junior partner" of China, which has sowed discord in NATO, and the leader-autocrat, before whom the "demons of crisis" loom. Yeltsin’s successor, whose years many Russians consider the “heroic epic”, and the gardener who cleared the “front garden” from weeds.
    ... Yeah, such a tear in NATO, now they’ll run away ... with a younger partnership, too, rightly so ... the continuation of the Yeltsin’s case, beloved teacher, what center in Yekaterinburg were cut off from your beloved student ...
  • rotmistr60 13 August 2019 06: 46 New
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    Christian Ash in Spiegel Online told ...
    With German pedantry, with "knowledge of the topic" (in his opinion), but looking from his anti-Russian bell tower. Criticized the president, praised the Russian "liberals" who turn out to be the only democratic way to power, supposedly gaining experience at each of its levels. And why not talk about Merkel’s many years of rule, about meddling in Russia's internal affairs, about helping the opposition in its “struggle” for power? Although the logs are not visible in his eye.
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      Merkel’s many years of rule
      Does Merkel’s rule somehow contradict the FRG’s constitution?
      1. rotmistr60 13 August 2019 07: 00 New
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        Then maybe tell us about the violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, what can be understood from your comment?
        1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 07: 07 New
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          Quote: rotmistr60
          Then maybe tell us about a violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation,

          And her ... they corrected ... The deputies were delighted when the presidential term was increased. At the same time, and deputy.
          1. Same lech 13 August 2019 07: 35 New
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            Presidential term increased.

            Okay, the term ... well, even the salaries increased by an order of magnitude to our relatives ... we live well ... There is no Stalin on them ... the Russian deputy class is clearly not modest.
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              Quote: The same Lech
              the Russian deputy class is clearly not modest.

              Yes, they themselves appoint a salary. Oh! I would like that ... crying
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                I would like that ...

                Dreaming is not bad ... the entrance is only for the elite.
                Hehe patricians their plebeians will never give their feeder ...
                Our society has divided into classes ... all according to Marx.
                1. Van 16 13 August 2019 08: 15 New
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                  As if according to Wells (Time Machine), in the future, there would be ..
              2. Varyag71 13 August 2019 09: 54 New
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                Where is it seen that the servants of the people live much better than those to whom they should serve ?!)
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            At the same time, and deputy.

            Yes, and the worker at the same time.
            1. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 08: 16 New
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              Quote: Alf
              Yes, and the worker at the same time.

              In this regard, I remembered the creator of the E-mobile Prokhorov, who promised to increase the working day to 12 hours. wink
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                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: Alf
                Yes, and the worker at the same time.

                In this regard, I remembered the creator of the E-mobile Prokhorov, who promised to increase the working day to 12 hours. wink

                Typical trial ball.
                I’m the king, I can’t say so, and you try, we’ll see how the people will react. It’ll work, it’s fine, it won’t work, I’ll say that this is only your opinion, I’ll be the people's defender, I’ll earn interest for myself, but don’t be afraid, I won’t do anything for you, on the contrary, I’ll conduct it in the industry council.
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                And he also proposed to pass a law so that hard workers can quit only with the permission of the owner, director, etc.
                The discussion was very loud then.
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            Deputies were delighted when the presidential term was increased. At the same time, and deputy.

            Well .... "in the Canaries better than in the bunk ..."!
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              Well .... "in the Canaries better than in the bunk ..."!

              Tahiti, Tahiti ...
  • Nonna 13 August 2019 06: 49 New
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    From the Germans, an accurate description of Putin’s entire rule. Holds tight to power, oh. Probably, when he puts a candle in the church, he says - "Who, if not me?" and immediately pulls on bathyscaphes and motorbikes, and the people wait - he always gets under his feet ...
    1. Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 19 New
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      During a direct line on Thursday, Putin was asked if he was ashamed. The head of state said that he was ashamed of losing a note asking from an elderly woman who fell on his knees in front of him during one of his trips to the regions in the 2000s. Putin added that he is ashamed now,

      I already shed a tear of emotion ... what kind of president we have ... if only the deputies would also be ashamed crying
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        Quote: The same Lech
        The head of state said that he was ashamed of losing a note asking from an elderly woman who knelt in front of him during one of his trips to the regions in the 2000's. Putin added that he is ashamed now,

        I already wept with emotion ...

        I would now roll a note for him, so that he would not be ashamed. fellow
  • aybolyt678 13 August 2019 06: 57 New
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    And his idea of ​​the Russian World ??? which quickly turned off! After all, Russian means fair, communist, and this is not their trend!
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      come on?)))) you seriously communist and write justice together?)))) and Russian is so chic. when reading the names of the most famous communists, Russian surnames somehow rarely come across.
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        think too small. Actually, I am in the sense in which the USSR tried to position itself for many years. Incidentally, we were afraid precisely because of the image
  • Van 16 13 August 2019 06: 58 New
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    In the first two terms, there are really no big questions for him, but hereinafter ... but then everything is downhill, and for some reason all his actions lead to one thing - the worsening of the life of the majority of the country's people ..
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      Quote: Van 16
      In the first two terms, there are no big questions for him, but further

      maybe further commodity prices fell?
  • Angrybeard 13 August 2019 07: 19 New
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    The main unresolved problem is, of course, the disparity in income, the huge gap between the social layers. The movement from the social system to capitalism led to one of its extreme forms, dangerous for the future of the country. For patriots, this is also a pronounced dominance of nepotism, effective management, decades-long systemic problems in key areas, such as microelectronics, shipbuilding, etc., trash and, as a result, a huge number of resonant catastrophes with victims.

    By virtue of this, there is a huge demand for justice, which the government has missed and the opposition will use it, blooders, mouth singers, Yakut shamans, anyone. The authorities ruined their own golden hour of unity with the people against the backdrop of the Crimea with their own hands, frightened by the drained gin. despite the fact that against the background of many neighbors, everything is not so bad, there is an obvious discontent in society that can no longer be dampened by propaganda on TV The people from there went to the Internet. And the power merged this site without a fight.
    1. Same lech 13 August 2019 07: 42 New
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      And the power merged this site without a fight.

      Well, why ... the government passed laws forbidding scolding yourself of your relatives ... forbade everything that at least somehow hurts her ... the deputies and the Russian government took the easiest way to ban and tighten the screws ... ultimately this is a dead end in development society without any alternatives and prospects, and he will lead, as always with us, to another crisis and revolution.
      1. carstorm 11 13 August 2019 09: 13 New
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        and you forgive what are you doing here now? scolding power. are not afraid or maybe enough to juggle and talk not to scold but to insult? Think no difference?
        1. Same lech 13 August 2019 09: 19 New
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          and you forgive what are you doing here now? scolding power. are not afraid or maybe enough to juggle and talk not to scold but to insult? Think no difference?

          Mdya ... what Well, firstly, I have not scolded anyone yet ... the moderators will not allow and under the new law they will fine well.
          secondly, I did not even offend anyone in power ... smile
          thirdly, I do not distort when I talk about salaries and the rights of deputies.
          They have special salaries and rights, unlike ordinary mortals ... isn’t that so?
          Fourth, do not distort this criticism ... since when should one be afraid to tell the truth in the eye ... it is unpleasant but it should be treated calmly and adequately and not shut up.
          1. carstorm 11 13 August 2019 09: 37 New
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            you and I understand some terms differently. criticize so satisfied? Does someone stop you from doing this? the truth is to say it right. you just need to be able to firstly not go over to personal insults, and secondly they decided to voice it and prove your words. this is the normal behavior of any person in society. half of the branch criticizes power. in most cases, it is quite adequate. Do you think the summons from the courts are flying towards them all? but about salaries is your opinion. I also have it not small for me personally how much they get deep purple.
            1. Same lech 13 August 2019 09: 48 New
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              Well, thank God for the first time they do not insult me ​​... although they answered normally. hi
              I agree with your words, except for the salaries of the deputy corps ... they did not deserve this salary by adopting anti-people laws.
              When in the country the last janitor and cleaning lady will not be afraid for her tomorrow, then it will be possible to speak of high salaries for the State Duma.
    2. Vasiliev Yu 13 August 2019 12: 42 New
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      Your main mistake is that you are sure that Putin could do something good for the camp and the people.
      Not for this, his Alkash and his Family and associates appointed Putin to reign.
      And think about it? How often did a group of thieves appoint a watcher somewhere so that the beholder would protect the population from the same thief? And has this happened in life?
    3. aybolyt678 13 August 2019 12: 52 New
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      Quote: Angrybeard
      Because of this, a huge request for justice,

      In addition to a request for justice, there are requests for example for the future!
  • Vadim T. 13 August 2019 07: 37 New
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    Everything must be balanced in the management of the state: foreign policy flows from domestic and vice versa. And the policy itself should be subordinated to the main goal - the development of the state, and solve problems, current and future, aimed at achieving this goal. From this bell tower, it is necessary to evaluate the activity of the entire power vertical.
    Many commented on domestic politics, and it is already difficult to add anything here. I will say a few words about the external. Yes, there were some points that aroused pride in Russia: Munich speech, for example, or Crimean spring. But all this remained incomplete, which indicates the absence of a strategy, and was expected to cause disappointment. The problem of Donbass, for example, and of Ukraine itself as a whole, is vivid evidence of this. There is no real rapprochement with other post-Soviet republics, but rather the opposite. There is no support for ethnic Russians living outside the Russian Federation. They have long realized that their own will not come, and you need to rely only on yourself. They go against conscience, against the same Russians, in order to earn indulgence for later life. Such even in a nightmare it was impossible to imagine. But this, unfortunately, is the reality of life ...
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      Quote: Vadim T.
      Yes, there were some points that aroused pride in Russia: Munich speech, for example, or Crimean spring.

      What about Syria? And the beginning split of Europe?

      Quote: Vadim T.
      Donbass problem, for example,

      Putin told them from the very beginning - don’t bother, we need a whole Ukraine. The West, having only separated Donbass, was able to make Ukraine anti-Russian.

      Quote: Vadim T.
      No support for ethnic Russians

      You had no questions why citizenship according to the simplified scheme is given according to the Decrees of Putin, and not by the decision of our Duma?

      Quote: Vadim T.
      They have long realized that their own will not come, and you need to rely only on yourself

      We need a whole Ukraine. Only in this way will it be more about Russian than about Western.
    2. Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 09 New
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      But all this remained incomplete, which indicates the absence of a strategy, and was expected to cause disappointment.

      There is such a thing ... if under the USSR our society was promised a bright future of communism where from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs ... now
      "From each by naivety, by each by greed"?
      Therefore, our society in its development must go through a long stage of human development before moving on to the next postulate of socialism
      "From each according to his ability - to each according to his work."
      Unless of course we destroy ourselves in world wars earlier.
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        "From each by naivety, by each by greed"?

        from each as possible, and to some according to Needs.
        Quote: The same Lech
        Therefore, our society in its development must go through a long stage of human development

        So public opinion has already grown to the need of Stalin, where to grow further? further social growth of the average person is possible only in conditions of a change in the social structure of the state
        Quote: The same Lech
        Unless of course we destroy ourselves in world wars earlier.

        Rather, we will sell, and we will exhaust resources that we could use for development
  • rocket757 13 August 2019 07: 40 New
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    Another 20 years in the coordinate system, where the main one, where the CAPITALIST rules from the group closest to power !!!
    Although, what am I talking about, this is the very, most capital, I created this power for myself, it is nurturing !!!
    We are laborers, on this holiday ... vanity! The crumbs then fall into us, but they are very greedy, celebrating at the top .... here below, many can "stretch their legs" with such feeding! Therefore, we are rolling down .... and their victorious relations can be advised to put yourself in ......
    Yes, it’s time for us to unite and ........
  • AlexSam 13 August 2019 08: 11 New
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    if only everything would go from all over the country to permanent residence in Moscow ...
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      Quote: AlexSam
      if only everything would go from all over the country to permanent residence in Moscow ...

      Heard already in 90:
      - Enough to feed the republic, here we will separate - we will live;
      - Enough to feed the Caucasus, here we separate - we will live;
      - Enough to feed Moscow, here we will separate - we will live.
      Before separated, we nearly lost the country. Stop talking nonsense. We must fight with our own manure ourselves, and not wait for cookies from the "good" master.
      1. Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 31 New
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        We must fight with our own manure ourselves, and not wait for cookies from the "good" master.

        Will not work...
        rather, it will turn out like in the law on self-defense ... he gave a brazen bandit in the face ... knocked out his tooth and went to jail for justice ... hehe he the law is ... like a drawbar where he turned there and left.
        1. Boris55 13 August 2019 08: 42 New
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          Will not work...

          If the war is lost at the highest management priorities, then it is impossible to win at the last.

          Is it possible to change power peacefully? Perhaps, if only we all over the world will throw ourselves on our deputy, who will pass laws in our interests. But in order to prevent this from happening, the bourgeoisie put a "trap" in the law in the form of a large amount of money for registering a candidate for deputy and through the media they cultivate individualism in every way, so that this never happens.
      2. WIKI 13 August 2019 10: 07 New
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        We have to fight with our own manure,

        Can this process be brought to its logical conclusion? Exporting to Moscow not only money, but also shit.
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          Exporting to Moscow not only money, but also shit.

          It is impossible. When it is smeared with an even layer, it is as if not there. If you reduce everything to one place, then when you gain a critical mass, it can explode and spatter everything and everything.

          ps
          Revolutions take place in the capitals. The outskirts are forced to accept new power or will be suppressed by force. You, proposing to bring all of them to the capital, what would this very thing govern us? laughing
      3. Mordvin 3 13 August 2019 11: 05 New
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        Quote: Boris55
        Heard already in 90:
        - Enough to feed the republic, here we will separate - we will live;
        - Enough to feed the Caucasus, here we separate - we will live;

        Yeah, they’ve also heard: "Take sovereignty as much as you want!"
        And then Chechnya began ...
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          Yeah, they’ve also heard: "Take sovereignty as much as you want!"
          And then Chechnya began ...

          And then the Khasavyurt agreements, which gave rise to the dismemberment of Russia, and only Putin "the second Chechen" stopped this process. Power was transferred to him in order to remain in history as a destroyer of Russia.
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            Power was transferred to him in order to remain in history as a destroyer of Russia.

            maybe as a destroyer of the remnants of all Soviet ??
            1. Boris55 14 August 2019 07: 12 New
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              maybe as a destroyer of the remnants of everything Soviet?

              Everything was stolen before him. There were no residues.
              1. aybolyt678 14 August 2019 08: 22 New
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                There were no residues.

                And ideology, social benefits ??
                1. Boris55 14 August 2019 09: 16 New
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                  And ideology, social benefits ??

                  They ended with the adoption of the Constitution in the 1993 year, when no one had heard of Putin.
                  1. aybolyt678 14 August 2019 09: 51 New
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                    +++ there remains a deep layer of public consciousness, perceiving justice and injustice, including from the position of Soviet ideology. Your comments are an example.
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      if only everything would go from all over the country to permanent residence in Moscow ...

      Do you know how many Muscovites in the Kremlin?
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    On the ruins of a great country, the sons of Satan rule the ball ...
  • bandabas 13 August 2019 08: 30 New
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    “Here you say, tsar, tsar. And you think it’s easy for us kings? Nothing of the kind! All workers have 2 days off, we kings work seven days a week. Our working day is not standardized. Have a snack, Margarita Vasilyevna, that's it "If you want to know, we kings need to give milk for free for harm!"
    1. Same lech 13 August 2019 08: 36 New
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      we, kings, for harmfulness must give milk for free! "

      To date, milk has been replaced with other pleasant things.
      Gorbachev’s hacienda in Bavaria ... in memory of Yeltsin’s center, they rebuffed in the Urals ... I don’t know what the next president will receive. what
      1. bandabas 13 August 2019 09: 42 New
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        Well sho? Our "partners" have already visited the Moon, Mars remains. Moreover, the guarantor is not yet spud. It’s somehow not nice to transfer to a clunker with a Tu-160. We must look wider! hi
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    Hmm ... German "analyst", and there are so many consonants and sympathizers with him)) Aren't you ashamed of your ancestors? They didn’t “lead” to Goebels’s propaganda ... They were morally stable ... Or they could just think ...
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