Military Review

Friday Lovers Club: I haven’t voted yet, but I demand transparent elections

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Under the heading “Club of Friday Lovers”, “Military Review” proposes to discuss the issue of the announced protest rally. This action will take place tomorrow in Moscow and not only. It is agreed with the local authorities, but what attracts attention is the already actively launched public relations campaign in favor of those who will go on provocations.


Friday Lovers Club: I haven’t voted yet, but I demand transparent elections


One of the nuances: the agreed venue for the action in the capital is Sakharov Avenue. But in the accounts of future protesters called to come "to the center of Moscow" - without reference to a specific place. Given that not all “dissenting” iPhone owners themselves are ready to “google” the regulated venue of the rally, and are waiting for the “team” from the “leaders”, it can be assumed that the “leaders” are consciously silent in terms of a specific “meeting place”.

In this case, only one conclusion can be drawn: the leaders of the so-called non-systemic opposition are advantageous so that groups of people who came to the protest rally "gather" in different places and "break through" to Sakharov Avenue. The goal is to then be especially distinguished in the case of "packing" by riot police, to be shown on non-worthy TV channels and to invite infinitely liberal experts to no less worthy radio stations to "analyze the actions of the Kremlin regime."

It is worth noting that the number of participants in the rally “against the non-admission of candidates” agreed in the capital is 100 thousand people. Interesting meaning. Especially in terms of whether the so-called non-systemic opposition will be able to bring so many people to Moscow streets, or whether everything will turn into a well-known "march of millions" when, with an order of number, the actionists clearly went too far.

One of the pressing questions: what, in fact, will this action lead to? Maybe in the same Moscow election commission they will suddenly start tearing their hair out shouting: how did we manage so much ... Sable herself was not allowed before the election ... but now we must repent and admit.

The probability is close to zero. And therefore, the main effect for the opposition from tomorrow's rally (as well as from all recently held), as it is now fashionable to say, hype, hype, attempts to find more active foreign sponsors for new protests.

From a conversation with a participant in a previous protest rally: “Are you a Muscovite? (affirmative) What exactly made you go to the protest? ”

Answer: “These Moscow authorities are illegitimate. We need new people, transparent elections. I am for it"

Question: “How many times have you participated in regional elections?”

Answer: “I have 18. So far, never. ”

Nobody argues, transparent elections are the dream of the entire Club of Friday Lovers. But if the Moscow authorities are “not legitimate”, then there are no legitimate and Moscow privileges, Moscow surcharges, etc. It turns out that you need to go all the way to the disagreement and, for starters, give up everything in order to be together with the rest of Russia.
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  1. Underwater hunter
    Underwater hunter 9 August 2019 16: 30
    -28
    One of the pressing questions: what, in fact, will this action lead to?


    It’s a pity that this action will not lead to anything real .. Only if half a million people gather, maybe the government will think about it. But really 20 thousand will come.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 39
      +6
      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      But really 20 thousand will come.

      Hardly. The cunning Vlad Putin sent a rain. tongue
      1. Korpus
        Korpus 9 August 2019 16: 52
        +20
        I often heard such statements on the Internet at that time .. "Take away the riot police and let us deal with them, many would gladly go and come from all over Russia .."
        They would beat it painfully, but carefully. Everyone understands who is the organizer of such protests and what they should lead to .. I do not want more than 90s !!!
        1. Revival
          Revival 9 August 2019 16: 59
          +40
          You forgot to add the keywords Maidan and Ukraine, be careful, please, this is a clear flaw
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 9 August 2019 17: 25
            +7
            Quote: Revival
            You forgot to add keywords Maidan and Ukraine

            Here the Chinese in Hong Kong will restore order, and the desire to hold a meeting will disappear for a long time. And in Russia, a rally is very dangerous, a game with fire.
          2. Korpus
            Korpus 9 August 2019 17: 51
            +15
            Quote: Revival
            You forgot to add the keywords Maidan and Ukraine, be careful, please, this is a clear flaw

            Maidan was only later and in general to Russia it is no sideways .. Most worried about the "Berkut", which stood to the last before these devils zapadnenets.
            In Russia, there will be no Maidan, but a bloody massacre will begin and worse than 1917. Too much anger and resentment have accumulated among the Russians! If those with the "swamp" with beards come back to power and begin to destroy and plunder everything ..

            God forbid this to be heard again .. God bless Russia!
          3. yaros
            yaros 9 August 2019 18: 14
            +2
            Watch Ukrainian TV, for example, live, a quarter of the air about rallies in Moscow, so and think to whom it is necessary and where the ears grow from ...
            1. loki565
              loki565 9 August 2019 18: 35
              +13
              And these horses are already in Moscow, which is why they are not expelled from the country, with a ban on entry for 10 years
            2. Korpus
              Korpus 9 August 2019 19: 05
              +1
              Quote: yaros
              think who needs it and where the ears grow from ...

              From Israel .. One Jew, another replaced, and all the same and will be more bloody!
            3. New Year day
              New Year day 9 August 2019 21: 07
              +5
              Quote: yaros
              Watch Ukrainian TV, for example, live, a quarter of the air about rallies in Moscow,

              watch Russian television through all channels 24 hours and everything about Ukraine!
              1. yaros
                yaros 9 August 2019 23: 10
                +4
                It’s not true, can you even catch a stopwatch, do you think that the former Ekhovtsy Ganapolsky and Kiselev (not the one from the first one) who are now leading on Pryamaya about "Ukrainian hatynki razmovlyayut"? So it’s immediately clear that you’re from there, but we nafig need so much airtime to spend on Nenka ... All the swamps there are now grazing on Poroshenko’s money ...
                1. reservist
                  reservist 12 August 2019 11: 13
                  0
                  Quote: yaros
                  ... the former Ekhovtsy Ganapolsky and Kiselev (not the one from the first) ...

                  did Kiselev with NTV seem to work, or did he also work on Echo?
            4. Michael67
              Michael67 10 August 2019 00: 37
              +4
              Watch the movie Sleepers.
              1. Sergey1987
                Sergey1987 10 August 2019 12: 32
                +1
                Quote: Michael67
                Watch the movie Sleepers.

                Good example. Second season. It is clearly shown.
              2. reservist
                reservist 12 August 2019 11: 15
                0
                here is the impression that people in power are deliberately doing so that around the September elections a "wave" to raise more ...
          4. monah
            monah 9 August 2019 19: 35
            +14
            Do not envy so joyfully, believe me, maydaunas do not end with anything good! I am from Kharkov, I know what I'm saying. I know the Maidan democracy!
            1. Korpus
              Korpus 9 August 2019 20: 47
              +8
              Quote: monah
              Do not envy so joyfully, believe me, maydaunas do not end with anything good! I am from Kharkov, I know what I'm saying. I know the Maidan democracy!

              You will have to deal with them in the first place .. Until the Donetsk and Lugansk did not fit!
              And there we will, of course, uncouple, but the LDNR has its own accounts in a "relative" hi And then our military lawyers from Russia will come up .. Something will happen.
        2. Underwater hunter
          Underwater hunter 9 August 2019 17: 02
          -20
          Quote: Korpus
          I do not want more than 90s !!!

          And what are you doing to prevent the 90s from happening anymore? We are already very close to the 90s ..
          1. Korpus
            Korpus 9 August 2019 18: 06
            +6
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            Quote: Korpus
            I do not want more than 90s !!!

            And what are you doing to prevent the 90s from happening anymore? We are already very close to the 90s ..

            We are just very far from the 90s .. Although Chubais all sit quietly in power, but they do not blather and wait .. We are restoring the Army and Navy, these were our only allies, they are and will be .. A strong Russia does not need the West but alas woke up a bit late. Now they are shaking, and what if the Russians show FOR ALL?
            1. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 11 August 2019 17: 12
              0
              Objectively, after the collapse of the USSR, only three "fragments" can still more or less live a normal life: Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus ... Central Asia, Ukraine - slipped into feudalism, Transcaucasia - into poverty ... Tribaltia - were a showcase, steel - backwater ...
          2. Cat man null
            Cat man null 9 August 2019 18: 06
            +6
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            We are already very close to 90-mi ..

            Yes "you" are the very ones wink

            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            And what are you doing to prevent 90's from happening anymore?

            And this is hutspa request
            1. Korpus
              Korpus 9 August 2019 19: 07
              +5
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              Quote: Underwater Hunter
              We are already very close to 90-mi ..

              Yes "you" are the very ones wink

              Quote: Underwater Hunter
              And what are you doing to prevent 90's from happening anymore?

              And this is hutspa request

              Thank you cat .. Nice koment! hi wink
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 10
            +6
            It’s you who stayed in the 90s - everyone else left.
          4. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 9 August 2019 19: 16
            -1
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            Quote: Korpus
            I do not want more than 90s !!!

            And what are you doing to prevent the 90s from happening anymore? We are already very close to the 90s ..

            If only in your dreams ...
            1. Russia
              Russia 9 August 2019 20: 00
              +2
              Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
              Quote: Underwater Hunter
              Quote: Korpus
              I do not want more than 90s !!!

              And what are you doing to prevent the 90s from happening anymore? We are already very close to the 90s ..

              If only in your dreams ...

              And they have life in a dream and in reality, when it is convenient, then they wake up.
          5. sir.jonn
            sir.jonn 9 August 2019 19: 35
            +1
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            Quote: Korpus
            I do not want more than 90s !!!

            And what are you doing to prevent the 90s from happening anymore? We are already very close to the 90s ..

            The 90s are in the past, today bloggers are groaning for hype and offended on the forums, the remaining 99% of the population know what kind of cesspool is the 90s and will not return there. All rallies, including the recent one, are a complete staging, the video on YouTube clearly shows how the "dissenters" are loaded into police vans, they specially organized a line of provocateurs to create the appearance of a continuous stream of detainees. The police even hold their heads so that they do not smash their teapots on the posts to demonstrate lawlessness.
          6. Russia
            Russia 9 August 2019 19: 53
            +5
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            We are already very close to 90-mi ..

            Well, as in the famous film: not us, but you wink Come on, "Stand up!" And a step march into zero, smoke, recover and with renewed vigor in the two thousandth! So you will live like a turtle? recourse
            1. Masha
              Masha 9 August 2019 21: 33
              +3
              like in a famous movie ...
              Who is the witness?
              th witness! What happened? wink
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 9 August 2019 17: 09
          +2
          Quote: Korpus
          let us deal with them, many would love to go and come from all over Russia .. "

          So you are for the Civil War? According to recent polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, while 37% support the protest.
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 9 August 2019 17: 24
            -2
            Quote: Silvestr
            So you are for the Civil War?

            if in ANOTHER way it is not possible to remove the power of thieves and oligarchy snickering, for which the population - and it can be milked, if the laws are adopted anti-people then I - FOR !!
            1. K-612-O
              K-612-O 9 August 2019 17: 34
              -2
              Already there were some of them, over 3 years, more than 15 million were mostly scammed by Russians.
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 9 August 2019 17: 45
                +6
                K-612-O (Andrei)
                Already there were some of them, over 3 years, more than 15 million were mostly scammed by Russians.
                This is who are you?
                1. K-612-O
                  K-612-O 9 August 2019 17: 47
                  +1
                  VKPB was called one, and the other White movement. Well, not counting any atamans and batiks.
              2. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 9 August 2019 18: 16
                +11
                Quote: K-612-O
                Already there were one such

                I see you are a fan of housing and communal services, pension reforms (4th in my century), love our roads and taxes on them ...... name at least one decent politician or deputy .... maybe someone from the government?
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 9 August 2019 17: 42
              +1
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              if laws are passed anti-people, then I - FOR !!

              Sorry, the comrade proposed to reassure Muscovites with brigades from the periphery. And about your promise, I’m for
              1. Korpus
                Korpus 9 August 2019 19: 10
                +2
                Quote: Silvestr
                Sorry, the comrade proposed to reassure Muscovites with brigades from the periphery

                There, the whole periphery of Russia and the USSR in Moscow is already working "bring it away))))
                Most throw and a lot .. A kind of Babylon created!
            3. yaros
              yaros 9 August 2019 18: 02
              +2
              C'mon, the fresh rulers, like the Angels will be white and fluffy ... don’t need to talk about the will of the people, paid shares in all Western publications write only about this .... you need to throw a stone at the policeman in the states to shoot, or like free Europe with tear gas and batons in the humps
            4. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 12
              +1
              You won’t take away the oligarchs - too much is tied to their activities: industry, relations, people, money.
            5. loki565
              loki565 9 August 2019 18: 44
              +6
              Rather, you will be imprisoned, and by law. And they would do the same in all European countries, not to mention the United States)))
          2. K-612-O
            K-612-O 9 August 2019 17: 41
            +5
            9% is more than a million! Where are they lost among 1,5 snotty majors with 3.08 iPhones?
          3. Korpus
            Korpus 9 August 2019 18: 08
            +5
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Korpus
            let us deal with them, many would love to go and come from all over Russia .. "

            So you are for the Civil War? According to recent polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, while 37% support the protest.

            Moscow is not all of Russia ... Keep this in mind when calculating any polls .. wink negative
          4. monah
            monah 9 August 2019 19: 42
            +8
            Statistical interest is a tricky thing and depends on who pays for this interest! But personally, looking at the social and age composition of the protesters, I just want to say: "You got drunk there in the capital!"
            1. reservist
              reservist 12 August 2019 11: 24
              0
              Quote: monah
              But personally, looking at the social and age composition of the protesters, I just want to say: "You got drunk there in the capital!"

              not without it ...
          5. Russia
            Russia 9 August 2019 19: 57
            +4
            Quote: Silvestr
            So you are for the Civil War?

            Comrade, don’t drive the wave, you’ve already tortured me, pester Xisian, there’ll be more sense, otherwise you pick everything in commas and accents. hi
          6. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 9 August 2019 21: 36
            +4
            Quote: Silvestr
            According to the latest polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, but supports the protest 37%.

            And according to the same polls, 2% participated in recent promotions.
            You yourself will count how many Muscovites took part, or will you believe these polls?
          7. dauria
            dauria 9 August 2019 22: 22
            +4
            According to the latest polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, but supports the protest 37%.


            Well, "Muscovites" is understandable. Maybe we will ask the Russians?
          8. Captain45
            Captain45 9 August 2019 22: 50
            +3
            Quote: Silvestr
            According to the latest polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, but supports the protest 37%.

            In 1999, in the fall after the explosions of houses in Moscow, all over Russia they gathered, well, a lot of employees - operatives, district police officers, more than 5 thousand people and sent to Moscow to catch terrorists. In fact, they did the work of the Moscow district police, walked around the apartments and rewrote who lived. This is what I mean, but to the question of the protests of Muscovites. For three weeks I closely communicated with the population living in the territory, then the Mozhaisk OVD, and so I did not meet a single satisfied Muscovite in three weeks of a business trip. They always had some kind of complaints about everyone, and it was sometimes wild for us, who came from the provincial police department, to listen to these statements, not by hearsay knowing how the country lives outside the Moscow Ring Road. Therefore, since then I have to the capital, well .... such a general attitude as in the film "The Dawns Here Are Quiet": "Well, this is the very thing, in general, you will be up to your waist" (c), and all subsequent business trips in the capital of our Motherland showed that the way of thinking of Muscovites did not change at all.
            1. Revival
              Revival 9 August 2019 23: 26
              -1
              That is, in Moscow everyone is dissatisfied, although they are better than the Moscow Ring Road, and those who are beyond the Moscow Ring Road were happy, although they have worse?
              If so, the "upper classes" express their deep gratitude to you for your patience and simplicity in the conditions of life. "But you hold on .." (c).
              This at least explains why it is not getting better with us. The people are already satisfied. He thinks that demanding something more than a cracker is already somehow ugly and shameful, moreover UNPATRIOTIC! YES?
            2. reservist
              reservist 12 August 2019 11: 30
              0
              would have lived in Moscow not for three weeks, but for three years, they themselves would have felt where the “Moscow snobbery” got its “legs” from ...
          9. Sergey1987
            Sergey1987 10 August 2019 12: 35
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            So you are for the Civil War? According to recent polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, while 37% support the protest.

            Whose poll? Did you interview?
          10. Amin_vivec
            Amin_vivec 11 August 2019 17: 13
            0
            I am for dispossession of Moscow and Muscovites. We got it already. All you need.
            1. reservist
              reservist 12 August 2019 11: 33
              0
              something tells us that the inhabitants of the Prechistinki / Ostozhenka district will be especially against such a proposal ...
        4. reservist
          reservist 9 August 2019 17: 16
          +8
          Quote: Korpus
          I do not want more than 90s !!!

          an inner voice suggests that most protesters do not want to either ...
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 9 August 2019 17: 32
            +7
            But they did not see them after their youth, and at 14-15 years old, cars and wagons were not unloaded, while living in Moscow.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 9 August 2019 17: 48
              +8
              K-612-O (Andrey)
              But they didn’t see them after their youth, and at 14-15 years old, cars and wagons were not unloaded, while living in Moscow
              Have you unloaded? I unloaded on weekends. Wagons with bulk and cement in bags .. In zero. Children had to be fed.
              1. K-612-O
                K-612-O 9 August 2019 17: 50
                +9
                I unloaded, imagine. The son of a Soviet officer, thrown out of the army in 91. You needed the money, you know, and I brought them home. And he made money for a teacher in order to prepare himself for entering the academy.
                1. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 9 August 2019 17: 53
                  +7
                  K-612-O (Andrei)
                  I unloaded, imagine. The son of a Soviet officer, thrown out of the army in 91. You needed the money, you know, and I brought them home.
                  Yes, I’m in half whose son you are. And where did you bring the money .. Although I’m not home. Only you are in the 90th. And I’m in the zero. Now I can’t. Health is not that. And I would go and earn some money. Loans for treatment. Teaching children .. And this is silent about the fact that you need to improve housing conditions.
                  1. K-612-O
                    K-612-O 9 August 2019 18: 26
                    +10
                    Sorry if I offended you. But now I have about the same problems, and whoever does not have them. But I try to overcome them, work and bring up children normally.
                    And the generation of the 00s grew up full and calm, they do not understand that life can be difficult and very. That everything in life is often obtained by hard work, and not from dad or mom.
                    1. Revival
                      Revival 9 August 2019 23: 36
                      +3
                      Is it normal that we have a hard life all the time? Is it normal that all the time we are dealing with something there with all our strength?
                      I understand they will cope when it’s hard for everyone, shoulder to shoulder, so to speak.
                      But when we cope with all our might against the backdrop of yachts of the palaces for unexplained money we bought, and supposedly we are all together a single patriotic wall! No! Does not work! The eyes, that is, the head.
                      A question arises, and it’s not such that there is simply a question without an answer, but to which it is necessary to get an answer categorically!
                    2. freddyk
                      freddyk 10 August 2019 00: 44
                      +4
                      Quote: K-612-O
                      And the generation of the 00s grew up full and calm, they do not understand that life can be difficult and very. That everything in life is often obtained by hard work, and not from dad or mom.

                      Generations of 50x-70x are well-fed and quietly grown, but zero has not yet grown.
            2. reservist
              reservist 9 August 2019 18: 25
              +7
              Quote: K-612-O
              But they have not seen them since they were young ...
              I look at the past action and see that there are not only young animals on the street, although there are certainly enough "those who have not seen the 90s" ...


              ... while living in Moscow
              and in Yekaterinburg ...


              that's what I remembered
              I understand why people in Ukraine wanted change. Over the years of independence, independence power, as they say, they "got" them, disgusted simply. Presidents, premieres, deputies changed Glad but their attitude to their country and to their people did not change. They “milked” Ukraine, fought among themselves for powers, assets and financial flows. At the same time, the powers that be were of little interest to how and how ordinary people liveincluding, why, why millions of Ukrainian citizens do not see prospects for themselves at home and are forced to go abroad for daily work in other countries. I want to note, not in any Silicon Valley, namely for daily earnings. In Russia alone, nearly 3 million people worked last year. According to some estimates, their income in 2013 in Russia amounted to more than $ 20 billion, which is about 12% of Ukraine’s GDP.

              from the address of Vladimir Putin in the Crimea of ​​March 18, 2014
              1. Revival
                Revival 9 August 2019 23: 39
                +2
                What an entertaining text ...
                What a vague analogy with ....
          2. Korpus
            Korpus 9 August 2019 18: 23
            +4
            Quote: reservist
            Quote: Korpus
            I do not want more than 90s !!!

            an inner voice suggests that most protesters do not want to either ...

            They are the sheep that they lead and promise them freedom, as in America .. ha ha ha
            And in the United States, such "protests" are simply shot and the terms are huge ..

            It is rarely shown to all of us .. hi This is exactly what Khodorkovsky dreamed about when he wanted to merge "his" oil industry with the US corporation .. Then "democracy" would begin ..
            1. reservist
              reservist 9 August 2019 18: 53
              +7
              Quote: Korpus
              They are the sheep that they lead and promise them freedom, as in America .. ha ha ha

              so not the first time ...
              1. Korpus
                Korpus 9 August 2019 20: 34
                +2
                Well, Putin is not dancing yet ...)))

                If this happens in RUSSIA, then all .... Dig trenches and salt with matches, stock up in cellars with potatoes and pickles .. soldier
                1. major147
                  major147 9 August 2019 21: 48
                  +3
                  Quote: Korpus
                  Well, Putin is not dancing yet ...)))

                  If this happens in RUSSIA, then all .... Dig trenches and salt with matches, stock up in cellars with potatoes and pickles .. soldier

                  Was at this "concert" in the service.
                  1. Revival
                    Revival 9 August 2019 23: 41
                    +1
                    Yeltsin guarded?
                    1. major147
                      major147 10 August 2019 01: 25
                      +2
                      Quote: Revival
                      Yeltsin guarded?

                      And him too.
                2. Grigory b
                  Grigory b 9 August 2019 23: 55
                  0
                  And it never occurred to me that a person could be drunk on purpose and privatizations and reforms could be arranged to this tune. I am not a defender of Yeltsin, but the feeling that someone was very beneficial to "drunken Borya"
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 10 August 2019 00: 09
                    +5
                    Quote: Grigory B
                    that a person can be specially drunk

                    Duc tov. Korzhakov constantly carried out Operation Sunset, diluted the vodka with water, and then rolled up the bottle caps with a special machine.
                3. reservist
                  reservist 12 August 2019 11: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Korpus
                  Well, Putin is not dancing yet ...)))

                  why should he dance then?




                  [media = https: //youtu.be/apHpVUTEiqQ]

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        5. major147
          major147 9 August 2019 21: 47
          +4
          Quote: Korpus
          I do not want more than 90s !!!

          good
        6. Nick
          Nick 10 August 2019 20: 39
          -1
          Quote: Korpus
          I often heard such statements on the Internet at that time .. "Take away the riot police and let us deal with them, many would gladly go and come from all over Russia .."
          They would have hurt, but carefully

          Alas, riot police protects everyone law abiding Russian citizens. Yes, and right. And so I absolutely agree with you. The fifth column must be pacified.
        7. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 10 August 2019 21: 54
          0
          One stern Chelyabinsk peasant promised with a group of other stern Chelyabinsk peasants to drive to Moscow. As a result, he rose to the presidential envoy in the Urals Federal District.
    2. Digital error
      Digital error 9 August 2019 16: 48
      +2
      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      this action will not lead to anything real

      The desert consists of individual grains of sand. If it were not for the protests, the text of the pension "reform" would have written directly and without unnecessary IMF conventions: "into a wooden mac - and go."
      And they would add - "the tax deductions of the departed should be immediately invested in high-quality foreign assets."
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 10 August 2019 21: 57
        0
        The tax deductions of the departed invest immediately in high-quality foreign assets

        As Gref argued when he was the Minister of ER: so as not to plunder. But he humbled: in fact, that the overseas owners were pleased with the behavior of their residents.
        1. Digital error
          Digital error 10 August 2019 22: 01
          0
          Quote: Metallurg_2
          As Gref argued

          Gref, in general, as he left the government, began to speak much more honestly - either he became old or lost his sense of self-preservation:
          1. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 11 August 2019 12: 51
            +1
            They say that the reason is different: after a car accident, he was slightly damaged by a cuckoo and became Captain Obvious.
    3. Govorun
      Govorun 9 August 2019 16: 57
      -6
      And what should the government think about?
      1. Teacher67
        Teacher67 9 August 2019 17: 00
        -10
        Ha ha idiots will soon be squeezed from the light, and they are going to disperse protests instead of riot police))
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 9 August 2019 17: 16
          +5
          They are inspired by the "exploits" of the Romanian miners, there was a case in their time. Ask those miners today what they won besides free booze.
          As Brother2 said: "One word - Romanian!" There are enough Romanians like this in any country, and the result is "Maidan". Do we need it?
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 9 August 2019 17: 13
        +7
        Quote: Govorun
        what should the government think about?


        Well, at least about 25% of children in poor families, about 20 million poor, about pensioners with pensions, about non-alternative elections, about EP, about the level of human income and much more
        1. ltc35
          ltc35 9 August 2019 17: 23
          +16
          The fact that the tape burs in Altai were cut down with impunity, which they didn’t touch even after the revolution, that not everyone was allowed to live to 65, while it’s smelling like an army of officials, that the government is a deck of unbroken cards that just mix.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 18
            -11
            You don’t have to smack anyone at all - wallow at home and do nothing - evil to bureaucrats.
        2. Govorun
          Govorun 9 August 2019 18: 00
          0
          I understand everything, we have enough problems, as elsewhere, or do you want to say that there are no poor in developing China, or in the already "developed" United States, all people are happy, but there are a lot of their own problems and these problems will not go anywhere. BUT you need to start not with power, but with YOURSELF, tell me who does all this? Putin, Medvedev? representatives of which party United Russia, LDPR, Communist Party ...?

          THIS IS WE ... and I am sure that these are 25% or most of it, why if we do not love our country and allow us to treat it like that, then someone should treat it differently, it is not Putin who leaves trash in these places, but it is these who crap, sit on the shore and discuss politics and how badly life is in the country, such as drinking and with a cigarette in their mouths with mats, not noticing that CHILDREN are walking next to them talking about justice in the country, in the world , it is these "animals" who argue that their bosses are bad and pay little ....... And you watch, after all, such a picture is far from uncommon, we can already see this at almost every place where you can only relax ...
          I repeat, yes, there are problems and no one denies their presence, but the greatness of the country depends not only on good roads, high salaries and a successful career, but on OUR moral character and "there is nothing to blame on the mirror if the face is crooked" ... N. V. Gogol chose this popular proverb for the epigraph to the play "The Inspector General". The play explains well the meaning of the proverb. The literal meaning of the proverb - if you are ugly, then the mirror is not to blame for this. In a broader sense, you need to face the truth and look for the root of problems and failures in yourself.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 9 August 2019 18: 16
            -3
            Bravo, comrade !!! Not in the eyebrow but in the eye! I support your every word. hi
            1. Russia
              Russia 9 August 2019 21: 22
              +1
              Quote: K-612-O
              Bravo, comrade !!! Not in the eyebrow but in the eye! I support your every word. hi

              Join. hi
            2. Masha
              Masha 9 August 2019 21: 40
              0
              agree! Do not look for the guilty, but start with yourself !!!
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 23
            +2
            These guys just have a bad upbringing - swine, and these pigs are getting more, some of them become officials, where they use their "opportunities" to make shit - to the maximum.
          3. syndicalist
            syndicalist 9 August 2019 18: 43
            +10
            BUT you need to start not with power, but with YOURSELF

            Start with yourself? Oh well. I can right now take a picture of the garbage can under my windows, which is proudly called the "container site". And at the same time show a bunch of letters that my wife and I wrote, trying to force our management company and MSW export operators to fulfill their duties. And I can also go around the whole city, photographing similar objects. They are all in a similar state.
            Write to the governor? - they wrote.
            Choose another governor? - so now there is no such possibility. However, over the past 10 years, the fourth has already been replaced. But each subsequent is worse than the previous one.
            It happens that I stop by in other cities. Everywhere is about the same, with the exception of capitals.
            So who is this crap? We?
            No. This is Putin and Medvedev crap!
            You can blame on certain facts. But when srach is everywhere, it is the fault of the authorities.
            1. monah
              monah 9 August 2019 19: 58
              0
              I’m afraid to ask the Criminal Code and the MSW that the Martians are probably working, not your neighbors?
            2. Govorun
              Govorun 9 August 2019 21: 08
              +6
              Say what you like, but it still comes down to the personal actions of each of us, why, if everything is running out of you, why not gather everyone who is not indifferent and make a "fuss" that would go above your governor and why, when it comes to the president, the issue is resolved instantly or Putin I must control each of your garbage dumps ... why everything is very good with us personally in the yard, everything is taken out on time, and if an outrageous amount of garbage accumulates (holidays), we turn to the chairman of the HOA and he makes an additional application and the garbage is taken out, you didn’t think why is there such a difference in one country ... maybe because some want to work, while others DO NOT, it's NOT THE PRESIDENT'S Fault, because your Criminal Code is the same residents of YOUR city and that means they don't give a damn about you and the fact that garbage is not taken out when money is more important to them ... and this directly proves that the point is in the moral qualities of each person ... or you again have Putin and Medvedev to blame that some leaders of the Criminal Code are brought up so that they can only rip off money from you.
              EVERYWHERE SCRACH (your words) where everywhere? Perhaps you don’t have it, we had these problems, but we decided it without nerves and everything is now clean and the yard is cleaned up, everything is cleaned in our yard, the grass mows, even the nearby pond that was launched was cut down, the bushes were replaced a bridge, we made a platform for ducks to be fed ... learn to see not only bad but also good, for objectivity and yes, I did not deny that there are problems, yes they are, but there are positive steps and there is no need to blame the authorities for everything. ..I am for criticism, but against such a redneck.
              1. syndicalist
                syndicalist 9 August 2019 21: 10
                -1
                What city do you live in?
                1. Govorun
                  Govorun 9 August 2019 21: 13
                  +4
                  the city of Kirov and to be honest, I am against my governor and we have a lot of problems with which I disagree and make me angry, but I see the opposite, that there are positive changes that cannot be overlooked and are very pleasing, so we need to learn talk, and not stoop (I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about individual comments that happen here)
                  1. syndicalist
                    syndicalist 9 August 2019 21: 38
                    -1
                    I can’t say anything for your city. Was not. Maybe you have a really adequate governor. But almost everywhere I go, the situation is just awful in terms of garbage. Nothing is possible to do.
                    Do not litter? - So the garbage is still formed, but no one takes it out.
                    Himself clean the site instead of the janitor? - we are doing this. And wherever the sites are not quite garbage Everests, this is the merit of individual enthusiastic residents.
                    To complain? - personally, I already have just a hysterical laugh from this word. A whole bunch of unsubscribe answers.
                    "Make a" hype ""? - we started with this topic. 500 people were detained last Saturday in Moscow just for a simple walk without posters, megaphones and shouts. For single pickets, people have been warming the bins for years. Thank you, I'd rather move to my parents' village. There are only a couple of residential buildings left there, there is no store - we won't shit much.
                    I already spoke about the election of governors.
                    As for the fact that it is necessary to complain above the governor or the most luminous - do you really think this is normal? That not a single issue can be resolved without calling the "direct line"? And even then, some nonsense, by and large, problems cannot be solved even by him, and they come up in the next "line". This is evidence that the state "autopilot" is not working properly and the country exists only in manual control mode. And who in this situation should start with himself? Maybe Putin and Medvedev after all?
                    1. Govorun
                      Govorun 9 August 2019 22: 14
                      +3
                      We are not obliged to say that Putin or Medvedev should start on our own, we must tell ourselves what to begin with, and they will answer for themselves, well, if the manual mode works, then they work, the only trouble is that I’m with him I agree when Putin answering a similar question ... We do not have others .... and I agree with this, well, now we do not have anyone who could take responsibility in their own hands, just NO ... when we here we declare honesty and justice sitting at the computer is one thing, but people like us coming to power or getting to it forget about their fellow countrymen, recent neighbors, about their emotional speeches, and I'm sure that give you power and you about your forget the words and don’t remember, it was so, it is and it will be ... it was back in the Soviet era that Rykin ridiculed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge9sxL2DTLc) so that it is in us that this is the only thing in US ...
                      1. syndicalist
                        syndicalist 9 August 2019 22: 40
                        0
                        . We have no others.

                        Do you really think that the country is ruled by a pair of the most intelligent and worthy people out of 140 million people? What choice can only be between patriot Putin and the American agent Navalny?
                        However, I agree with you on one point - the current system of state power is structured in such a way that anyone who enters the top post will inevitably become king or Fuhrer, depending on personal characteristics.
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 9 August 2019 22: 58
                        +2
                        Do you really think that

                        Quote: syndicalist
                        the country is ruled by a couple ... of people

                        ? laughing
                      3. Govorun
                        Govorun 10 August 2019 13: 16
                        -1
                        Yes, there are worthy people out of 140 million, but exactly as long as they DO NOT have any power and it is not about the patriot Putin and the agent of the West Navalny, but about their way of governing the country and their final result, in any case we will be someone's " slaves "executing the laws, and in this case, I personally will be a slave to Putin, his ways, whose country has really gained strength, than serving overseas" masters ", it is better to serve your own than someone else's .... And the power always changes a person, ALWAYS, someone more someone less and by definition impossible to please everyone, there will always be dissatisfied, who have forgotten how they lived in the 90s, when people like Navalny ruled and how we lived, I think everyone remembers.
                        "However, on one thing I agree with you - the current system of state power is arranged in such a way that anyone, having got to the highest post, will inevitably become a king or a Fuhrer, depending on personal characteristics." - your words ...
                        You are fundamentally wrong, this is a problem not only of ours and not of the current system, it is a GENERAL problem, when a person receives power and units whoever it changes for the better, it WAS, I repeat once more, IS and WILL always be. Alas, but it is ...
                    2. Grigory b
                      Grigory b 10 August 2019 00: 09
                      +2
                      I can’t say anything for your city.
                      I went there, Tatarstan ends and further off-road
                      1. Govorun
                        Govorun 10 August 2019 16: 44
                        0
                        The roads are terrible, but they repair, not as much as one would like, but there was generally horror ...
              2. Revival
                Revival 10 August 2019 00: 02
                +4
                Do you advise to make a fuss?
                And then they themselves will be stigmatized by State Department agents, in bulk.
                Then, as they gather at your advise, the OP will stand here at the most stubborn ... citizens: like riot police, let’s come and we will arrange re-education for these State Deputies agents!
                Particularly revealing and beautiful came out with the workers of the Uralvagonzavod, who recorded a loyal video clip, and then once the dismissals and non-payment of salaries and almost the plant did not license. I hope they review their video every day, especially those who are fired.
                Although what to say he was like that ...
                Does much hype help elsewhere?
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 10 August 2019 00: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: Revival
                  Particularly revealing and beautiful came out with the workers of the Uralvagonzavod, who recorded a loyal video, and then once the dismissals and non-payment of salaries and the plant nearly

                  Are you talking about this, plz? And better - pamper your reference ...

                  Quote: Revival
                  ... a little plant subscriber...

                  Ooh, yoyo belay
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 10 August 2019 00: 18
                    +3
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Are you talking about this, plz? And better - pamper your reference ...

                    And I remember too.

                    Here is this pretzel, the master of UVZ (or the shop manager?), Then he became the plenipotentiary of the president, and scored on everything.
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 10 August 2019 00: 20
                      +2
                      Vldimir, hi

                      This is all great, of course, but I would rather listen to the author ... it hurts, he interestingly connected everything there ...

                      And the "subdued" me was finally finished off ... it's time to sleep, probably laughing
                  2. Revival
                    Revival 10 August 2019 15: 42
                    -1
                    About nearly went bankrupt asked to keep:

                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vedomosti.ru/amp/f438881101/business/articles/2018/03/06/752833-uralvagonzavod

                    "How Uralvagonzavod ended up on the brink of bankruptcy and what saved it
                    The only Russian tank manufacturer mired in debt and survived only thanks to state support
                    06.03.2018
                    On March 6, Vladimir Putin plans to visit UVZ, where he will take part in a forum of working youth. The country's only tank manufacturer became a symbol of support for Vladimir Putin during the 2011-2012 election campaign, which was accompanied by massive protests. During a direct line with the president, the head of the assembly shop for military equipment, Igor Kholmanskikh, suggested that if the police cannot cope with the rallies, go "with the men" and "defend their stability, but, of course, within the law." After the elections in May 2012, the Kholmanskikhs were appointed Presidential Plenipotentiary in the Urals Federal District. However, the help was primarily needed not by the president, but by UVZ itself. The symbol of the Russian defense industry was mired in debt and was on the verge of collapse: in order to save it, the enterprise had to be handed over to Rostec and its leadership changed. And most importantly, to force carriers to buy the main civilian product of the enterprise - railway cars. "
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 12 August 2019 15: 20
                      -1
                      Quote: Revival
                      About nearly went bankrupt asked

                      It's hard with you ...

                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Quote: Revival
                      Particularly revealing and beautiful came out with the workers of the Uralvagonzavod, who recorded a loyal video, and then once the dismissals and non-payment of salaries and the plant nearly


                      Are you talking about this, plz? And better - pamper your reference ...

                      You are there much more than just "bankrupt", threw in.
            3. Russia
              Russia 9 August 2019 21: 25
              +4
              Quote: syndicalist
              So who is this crap? We?
              No. This is Putin and Medvedev crap!

              Yeah belay
            4. Cat man null
              Cat man null 9 August 2019 21: 54
              0
              Quote: syndicalist
              at the same time show a bunch of letters that we wrote with my wife, trying to force our UK and the MSW removal operators to fulfill their duties

              The court, the prosecutor’s office - no, didn’t you hear? wink
          4. monah
            monah 9 August 2019 19: 54
            +2
            100% support!
          5. Orkraider
            Orkraider 9 August 2019 20: 56
            +4
            Quote: Govorun
            I understand everything, we have enough problems, as elsewhere, or do you want to say that there are no poor in developing China, or in the already "developed" United States, all people are happy, but there are a lot of their own problems and these problems will not go anywhere. BUT you need to start not with power, but with YOURSELF, tell me who does all this? Putin, Medvedev? representatives of which party United Russia, LDPR, Communist Party ...?

            THIS IS WE ... and I am sure that these are 25% or most of it, why if we do not love our country and allow us to treat it like that, then someone should treat it differently, it is not Putin who leaves trash in these places, but it is these who crap, sit on the shore and discuss politics and how badly life is in the country, such as drinking and with a cigarette in their mouths with mats, not noticing that CHILDREN are walking next to them talking about justice in the country, in the world , it is these "animals" who argue that their bosses are bad and pay little ....... And you watch, after all, such a picture is far from uncommon, we can already see this at almost every place where you can only relax ...
            I repeat, yes, there are problems and no one denies their presence, but the greatness of the country depends not only on good roads, high salaries and a successful career, but on OUR moral character and "there is nothing to blame on the mirror if the face is crooked" ... N. V. Gogol chose this popular proverb for the epigraph to the play "The Inspector General". The play explains well the meaning of the proverb. The literal meaning of the proverb - if you are ugly, then the mirror is not to blame for this. In a broader sense, you need to face the truth and look for the root of problems and failures in yourself.

            I don’t understand why you are putting minuses !!!! I agree completely. You need to start with yourself. How many times he himself, on the banks of his river, collected garbage and took it out, I don’t understand why others do not. After all, everyone really comes by car; picking up with you is not a problem.
            And as regards everything else, yes, there are excesses, but there are problems up, but to what the mercenaries urge - not to solve the problem will only get worse.

            Essentially, an exit to Sakharov has been agreed - go out there and express your legitimate citizenship. Legally. If you want more, submit an application for a larger number: for 1 million, for 1,5 million, and only then you will legally get what you noticed and then without hype and you will achieve your goal.

            And now, with all my disagreement with what is happening, I DO NOT WANT to help the extraordinarily specialists in the collapse of my homeland!
          6. Vlad 63
            Vlad 63 10 August 2019 11: 13
            0
            Ahah! Start with yourself? Okay. As you wish. I'll start with myself. What should I start with? I guess I need to somehow develop the country economically. OK. I will try to return all my funds and assets from abroad. And invest them in the development of new modern industries in their country, and before that in the scientific base. Modern industries are not very modern without science. Next, I probably need to tighten up the legal framework in our state. So that the future manufacturer (while building modern production with my money) is not in a deliberately losing position in the competition with a foreign manufacturer. Here are the tariffs for energy carriers and the tax base and the officials from the level of garbage under the skirting board to the Kremlin itself, everyone will want to snatch "a little". I will probably also have to send officials to clean up landfills all over the country, extinguish fires, restore the vegetation of the taiga, which they destroy like locusts. In their place, I need to somehow put in the chairs worthy people who will be elected through fair and transparent elections by other citizens. ))))
            Only here is the problem. I, and almost all citizens of the Russian Federation, have no funds and assets beyond the hill. There is one Mr. Volodya with his circle of persons who are storing all these funds over the hill.
            The legal basis of the state, I can’t change. Changing it is the same Mr. Volodya, with the same circle of faces. Moreover, it changes for themselves and their friends, to the detriment of the vast majority of the people.
            Well, about fair and transparent elections in this country, even a round idiot is clear. Begin with yourself. lol
            1. Govorun
              Govorun 10 August 2019 17: 01
              -2
              Well, I’ll start with you then, I’m sure that YOU were in Volodya’s place (you arranged for familiarity by showing your intellect), you would have been no better and found people like you who are sitting in a chair at the computer and reasoning about the country's economy, about the laws, and I would blame you and call you to conscience, so don’t talk about others, everyone has his own responsibility, he has a country, you have a family and I’m sure that your family also happens to be something like you dissatisfied (maybe they will raise a rebellion the same way and bring you and bring another husband, your father, who will be better than you is that lyrics), I personally voted for Putin and voted for him, but this does not mean that I have everything with him I agree, but if I chose him, then I must completely trust him and I support people who criticize him, who criticize him in fact, in fact with evidence, and not with such dilution of the rednecks and memorized stamps for pensioners, money, children, a happy life, say no -corruption, etc.
              But the country is developing, but with its difficulties, but is it developing, or was it sweeter for you in the 90s? When such oppositionists ruled and what led .... did you like how many people criticized the authorities, how often they rallied, how many posts were thrown ??? START YOURSELF to see the positive and rejoice at what we have, we are ungrateful human beings, we quickly get used to the good and we are not enough, we want more and immediately ...
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 16
          -4
          These 20 officially beggars are not the same as the poor as they answer in the polls or they are considered according to the official salary.
          1. Revival
            Revival 10 August 2019 00: 05
            +1
            Not enough beggars?
            They don’t go in sacks of potatoes, but they are also indignant! Completely overgrown? Yes?
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 10 August 2019 00: 13
              +1
              Quote: Revival
              Not enough beggars? ... completely overwhelmed? Yes?

              We turn on the brains: according to statistics (and 20 million "beggars" are statistical data ... and not about "beggars" there at all, well, okay) people who work for cash for themselves, or receive a "black salary" - income Dont Have. Quite, in general.

              So clearer?

              I know such people, and quite a few. And with "gray" salaries - there are even more of them ... it's hard for you, probably, to believe it, but it's still true request
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 10 August 2019 01: 03
                +1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                I know such people, and quite a lot

                yes
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                people who work for cash on themselves, or receive a "black salary" - have no income. Quite, in general.

                And every day they think how to scrape a couple of thousand on 95 gasoline what wassat
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 10 August 2019 01: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  And every day they think how to scrape a couple of thousand on 95 gasoline

                  Well, that happens request

                  Greetings, categorically! hi
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 10 August 2019 01: 27
                    +1
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    categorically!

                    Mutually drinks
                    Chasing a little trollin? angry
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 10 August 2019 01: 31
                      +3
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      Chasing a little trollin?

                      Having fun. Others chase here - Gray Brother, for example laughing
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 August 2019 01: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Having fun.

                        Business time is an hour, the robot said, having finished solving singular equations, and began to count commas in the Great British Encyclopedia recourse
        4. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 11 August 2019 12: 55
          0
          What for? Their homeland is not Russia, but the country in which the children study. They and their children can’t live here.
      3. reservist
        reservist 9 August 2019 17: 28
        +11
        Yes, at least why change another normal asphalt to tile and vice versa ...
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 9 August 2019 18: 12
          +9
          reservist (Alexey)
          why change another normal asphalt to tile and vice versa ...
          laughing good "Cobblestone, a weapon of the proletariat"
          1. reservist
            reservist 9 August 2019 18: 35
            +3
            or maybe everything is much more prosaic ...
            1. Revival
              Revival 10 August 2019 15: 48
              0
              It could and would have been much more prosaic if it had been asked from the one who laid it down before. Then maybe yes
              1. reservist
                reservist 12 August 2019 10: 45
                0
                key phrase - "there is no trunk on the coffin lid" ...
                the previous mayor rolled everything into concrete, the current one into tiles ...
                fundamentally nothing changes ...
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 9 August 2019 21: 54
          0
          Quote: reservist
          Yes, at least why change another normal asphalt to tile

      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 9 August 2019 18: 05
        +3
        Govorun
        And what should the government think about?
        Yes, there’s nothing. Let it continue to live. How much can. What else can I say? Do you want to in the 90s? You don’t want. Who is stopping you from wanting? Or are you a military pension and let the rest live in guano? V1917m recall how the royal officers by the thousands as a class executed? Now think about the question of why.
      5. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 9 August 2019 18: 19
        +5
        Quote: Govorun
        And what should the government think about?

        about the people and only about him! ... and about his people !!!
    4. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 August 2019 17: 29
      +1
      Are you laughing? The last agreed rally of these majors gathered 10k barely, for the uncoordinated more than 3-4 thousand were not recruited. Calculate the percentage of the population of Moscow, thousandths.
      1. Govorun
        Govorun 9 August 2019 18: 12
        -2
        And from this amount you can still calculate how many real Muscovites, so there immediately the number will decrease and nothing will remain miserable.
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 9 August 2019 18: 19
          +1
          Govorun
          And from this amount you can still calculate how many real Muscovites, so there immediately the number will decrease and there will be miserable nothing
          .Are you a Muscovite yourself? If so, how old is a Muscovite. Where and in what area do you live bully
          1. Govorun
            Govorun 9 August 2019 21: 12
            +1
            )))))))) What did you mean??? I once wrote that I live in Moscow?))) What is your question?
    5. Private IITR
      Private IITR 9 August 2019 17: 31
      -2
      A census of morons will be held
      1. Teacher67
        Teacher67 9 August 2019 17: 34
        -3
        Last time I spent in 2010?
    6. Yrec
      Yrec 9 August 2019 17: 57
      -1
      I can name a very specific reason for participating in such publicized protests. This is an opportunity, subsequently, to ask for political asylum in some countries (first of all, of course, in the USA). A video with your participation, or even better - a video with a logo of some TV, where riot police "pack" you into a "bus" will be an excellent addition to the "case" of a "political refugee". Everything is purely mercantile, no "democratic values".
      1. Teacher67
        Teacher67 9 August 2019 18: 29
        +1
        Grannies and grandfathers also apparently wanted political asylum?
    7. mister-red
      mister-red 10 August 2019 18: 18
      0
      You are directly a predictor)
  2. Revival
    Revival 9 August 2019 16: 31
    +9
    A question to the author, if, of course, not for a simple "sketch" he wrote about the Moscow benefits and surcharges.
    Since the conversation with the 18 year old is given, it is implied by him and people like him.
    Question: what are his privileges and co-payments in Moscow, which he should refuse? AND?
    Or I don't know something about additional payments and benefits for "18 year olds"?
    1. Ursus
      Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 08
      +8
      2 Revival (Sergey)
      Do not ask copy-paste. The author of the fictional 18-year-old did not see in the eye. This is the fruit of his inflamed kitchen professionalism. Funny, by golly: one abstract 18-year-old and one question is sucked up and put up at the forefront. TS worked out its 30 cents! In general, the article is not impressive! Propaganda is a mile away
      1. Teacher67
        Teacher67 9 August 2019 17: 26
        +5
        The article wants to say, if you have an iPhone, then you should bow at the legs of EP and GDP, and the fact that most iPhones are credit, like everything else, it's nothing.
        1. Ursus
          Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 40
          +12
          Honestly, I don’t understand who I want to tell. There is an iPhone, not a credit. and I’m not going to bow. I work, pay taxes, and have the opportunity to afford it, without prejudice to the interests of my family.
          What the author wants to say in the article and what he focuses on is bullshit.
          The article itself is an Ovreton window element. Just a few days ago, I wrote here that due to the fact that the authorities have no plan B, except for the use of force, a powerful discrediting campaign will follow through all possible communication channels. This is what we see in this particular article: propaganda of the cheapest kind.
    2. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 9 August 2019 17: 32
      +6
      His parents can easily be among the people with benefits.
      A communal apartment in Moscow is significantly cheaper than in any peripheral Zapupyrinsk. In the Kaliningrad region, how to do a nefig get a bill for 4000r for electricity, and 8000r for heat to the house. And it’s good if you’re used to watching accounts carefully, and then go look for the truth, wtf? !!! belay
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 9 August 2019 22: 12
        +1
        Quote: Ural-4320
        His parents can easily be among the people with benefits.

        The advantage of any Muscovite is the budgetary security of 168 thousand per person per year. And for example, in Volgograd there are only 20 thousand. In this situation, the protests in Moscow are small.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 9 August 2019 22: 23
          +1
          Quote: Victor Biryukov
          The advantage of any Muscovite is the budgetary security of 168 thousand per person per year

          Although not a Muscovite, he was interested. We take the city budget, divide by the number of inhabitants, right? And what, excuse me, does this figure give to an ordinary resident? Yes, a little less than nothing, IMHO.
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 9 August 2019 22: 49
            0
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Excuse me, does this figure give to an ordinary resident?

            I will not spread much. This includes the entire social sphere. Just one example. And read the comments under the video: [media = http: // https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = TgE_W0_2kgY]
          2. reservist
            reservist 12 August 2019 11: 58
            0
            probably still "a little more than nothing"
            I recently took a ride on the MCC ... the impressions are "almost like in Germany" ... though I personally ride the MCC not more often than once a year ...
            Yaroslavka was finally expanded relatively recently, interchanges were added on the Moscow Ring Road, Zaryadye was opened ... there are positive changes in the city, but negative (which is much more perceptible) is also not enough ...
      2. Revival
        Revival 10 August 2019 00: 10
        0
        About his parents did not go.
        They earned their own benefits
        1. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 10 August 2019 00: 17
          0
          In fact, there was no talk of parents. However, he is a member of the family and his privileges concern him sideways. Even in the form of a grandmother tossed at 1000 rubles for beer / cigarettes, because she rides on the bus for free and does not spend her pension.
    3. Prjanik
      Prjanik 9 August 2019 17: 32
      0
      Do students have no benefits?
    4. AUL
      AUL 9 August 2019 18: 35
      +4
      Quote: Revival
      A question to the author, if, of course, not for a simple "sketch" he wrote about the Moscow benefits and surcharges.

      The author, just in case, wished to remain anonymous ...
    5. mister-red
      mister-red 10 August 2019 18: 19
      0
      The guy has parents. And he himself is unlikely to earn anything.
  3. Bomb
    Bomb 9 August 2019 16: 31
    +4
    My question is: the author of our elections are generally fair? Everything connected with the elections has long ago turned into a mess, as well as these protests.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 41
      0
      Quote: Bomb
      My question is: the author of our elections are generally fair?

      In our country, those who shout about dishonest elections are usually not honest; we will start with this.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 August 2019 17: 35
        0
        This is how the storm begins, first "honest or not," then marching through the streets, that's just where you can march. And on marches, most of them are children, in whose brains you can put everything. Where will they point there and go. An example of a southern neighbor.
        1. Revival
          Revival 10 August 2019 00: 12
          -3
          Counter-question: to be silent and not to march too far can be reached
      2. Govorun
        Govorun 9 August 2019 18: 14
        -2
        That's for sure) 100% is true.
    2. Digital error
      Digital error 9 August 2019 16: 58
      +7
      Quote: Bomb
      are elections in general fair?

      No matter what they say to you, do you believe it? It is not necessary to trust here, but to check. Therefore, it seems that they are conducting an experiment with electronic voting - it is not possible for an ordinary person to check whether their results correspond to real voting. It seems that the government’s policy of tightening the screws in the election system brings society closer to civil war as the only remaining way to change the status quo.
    3. yaros
      yaros 10 August 2019 18: 37
      +1
      I personally sat all night and watched the counting of votes in my constituency on VEB cameras, didn’t notice any manipulations, so for my constituency I can say that everything was garlic ... who doesn’t let others do the same? I can’t imagine more transparent elections , although in my lifetime has replaced 6 general secretaries and presidents ....
  4. AleBors
    AleBors 9 August 2019 16: 33
    0
    Oppositionists in search of new feeders and new adherents. It looks sadly. Not funny yourself?
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    2. Ursus
      Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 57
      +11
      What is going on completely not funny!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 August 2019 17: 16
        +11
        Quote: Ursus
        what is happening is not at all funny!


        For some, the buzz is the election and the same faces from EP, when the police mutuzut everyone. Morals have changed, now instead of providing first aid, many remove the agony of a person on a smartphone
        1. Ursus
          Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 21
          +5
          Alas, sadly to realize, but you are right!
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 32
          -3
          Now, instead of providing first aid, many remove the agony of a person on a smartphone. These are the first ones to mutuzut.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 August 2019 10: 07
        0
        Quote: Ursus
        What is happening is not at all funny!

        In Ukraine, too, they started small, even under Yushchenko, they wore "orange" kerchiefs and hats, and then off they went.
  5. Shuttle
    Shuttle 9 August 2019 16: 34
    +15
    The bourgeoisie is trying to convince the working people that democratic elections are a manifestation of social freedom. However, in reality this is an absolute lie. As Marx wittily remarked, the capitalists merely allow the working people to decide which representatives of the ruling class will oppress and exploit them for the next few years — old gentlemen or new gentlemen.

    The so-called free democratic elections are a false and hypocritical cover for bourgeois dictatorship. As a result of the "popular vote" only specific individuals change, but the system remains the same. It does not matter what the president or head of government will call: George, Gerhard, Margaret, Nicolas, Angela, Patrice or Ivan. Any government and any parliament are part of an exploitative system designed to squeeze blood, sweat and surplus value out of workers in the name of enriching a small handful of masters of life.

    The proletariat’s only true answer to the lying masquerade that bourgeois propaganda is trying to pass off as “free elections” is to ignore this circus. Participation in the electoral activities of the capitalist state is incompatible with the interests of the proletariat.

    Sometimes you can hear "radical" calls to vote "against all." However, this is also a deceptive slogan designed to suggest that the problem is not in the capitalist system, but only that there is no good candidate.

    There is only one reasonable position for workers: the complete disregard for this performance. Let the bourgeoisie itself take part in their elections.

    Even in the 19 century, everything was already clear.
    1. Digital error
      Digital error 9 August 2019 16: 44
      +3
      Quote: Shuttle
      “Radical” calls to vote “against all”

      Selling a revolution - how much?
      I would like to see your interpretation of not radical ways to change the situation.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 44
      -7
      Poor things - they have oppressed you, exploited you, the bourgeoisie are damn, they pulled the last crust of bread from a bowl.
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 10 August 2019 15: 46
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        Poor things - they have oppressed you, exploited you, the bourgeoisie are damn, they pulled the last crust of bread from a bowl.

        Not yet intimidated. But this is exactly where everything goes. I was born in 69. If anything, then I had 10 years left until my legal pension. And now 15. That is. I personally have taken away money and time. Personally, my rights have now diminished somewhat. When society educated me, I knew that I would owe him in return. When I defended society with arms in hand, I knew why to do it. When I paid taxes, I knew why it was necessary. When my retirement age increased, even the bank did not dare to extend my mortgage for an appropriate period. Who do you think created this "good" for me and people like me? Certainly not bourgeois?
        1. mister-red
          mister-red 10 August 2019 18: 24
          +3
          I was born in 1964, my wife in 1966. Had to retire in the 2024th, leave in the 2027th. The wife was supposed to go in the 2021st, will be released in the 2029th !!!!!
          Kishinev, Moldova. Retirement age for all 63 years. We do not have Putin. It's a pity.
    3. syndicalist
      syndicalist 9 August 2019 19: 34
      -1
      I do not argue, for his time, Marx created a coherent theory and a beautiful idea of ​​communism. But time is changing. Once feudalism was quite modern and progressive.
      Which class is hegemonic now? Workers in factories? Do not make me laugh! We are witnessing the disappearance of this class and its replacement with machines and robots.
      And who are the exploiters? According to Marx, they are the owners of the means of production. And what is now the main means of production? Plants and factories? Not. Their share in world GDP will soon become simply insignificant. The main product that is being produced today is information. And the owners of the means of production are you and me. Each house has several computers, with the help of which this information product is produced.
      We are contemporaries of the beginning of a new information age. This is not just a change in certain aspects of life. A new socio-economic formation is approaching, which is still waiting for its Marx.
      1. dauria
        dauria 9 August 2019 22: 42
        +3
        The main product that is being produced today is information


        Disconnect electricity, gas, water, heating and sewerage in your apartment. And instead of bread with potatoes and gasoline to sell a box of iPhones. So let's see if we really need Facebook and classmates. Dodged to the point that the ballerina from the TV presenter fed Russia.
        1. syndicalist
          syndicalist 9 August 2019 23: 21
          -2
          If we discussed a similar topic 20 thousand years ago, just not about the computer, but about, say, feeding the tribe by cultivating the land, then you would probably "take away" my stone ax and spear to make hunting impossible.
          Why should I give up meat, if I want to eat both. Yes, meat and hunting, respectively, were of greater importance, but how many people are now hunting for food?
          With material production the same thing happens. Automatic plants, 3d printers and robots, to a large extent, and in some places completely, will displace a person from this sphere in the foreseeable future. Physical labor will lose any meaning. ALL human activities will be concentrated in the information sphere.
      2. Shuttle
        Shuttle 10 August 2019 20: 36
        +2
        Quote: syndicalist
        I do not argue, for his time, Marx created a coherent theory and a beautiful idea of ​​communism.

        Marx did not invent any communism. He studied and described the laws of development of human society in terms of the development of productive forces. Even public classes were not discovered by him. In addition, the ideas put forward by him work fine now. And he, Marx, the works of the Westerners are not shy to study and apply because they are strictly scientific, tested by time and practice. So this is not just a harmonious theory - it is a science.

        Quote: syndicalist

        But time is changing. Once feudalism was quite modern and progressive.

        He is now progressive in relation to the slave system. And in relation to capitalism - is reactionary. Nothing changes.

        Quote: syndicalist

        Which class is hegemonic now? Workers in factories? Do not make me laugh!

        If you read Marx yourself, you would know that the hegemon is now the bourgeoisie. I skip all your other exercises about robots replacing the proletariat, noticing only that the proletariat is not the one who has a hammer or a hammer in his hands, but the one who does not own the means of production by which he personally works, i.e. produces added value.

        Quote: syndicalist

        And who are the exploiters? According to Marx, they are the owners of the means of production. And what is now the main means of production? Plants and factories? Not. Their share in world GDP will soon become simply insignificant. The main product that is being produced today is information. And the owners of the means of production are you and me. Each house has several computers, with the help of which this information product is produced.

        Try to live in your informational reality for a couple of days - eat exclusively informational food. Well and yes, leave the informational socket. Even two. But energy, alas, will have to be removed - it is tied with wires to the energy plant - the power plant. And there, very often, we proletosy.

        Quote: syndicalist

        We are contemporaries of the beginning of a new information age. This is not just a change in certain aspects of life. A new socio-economic formation is approaching, which is still waiting for its Marx.

        Cast in bronze! Then show your grandchildren.
        Something like this has happened before you more than once.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 August 2019 10: 09
      0
      Quote: Shuttle
      democratic elections are a manifestation of social freedom

      I remember the statement of JV Stalin "Democracy is a perverted form of the bourgeois state."
  6. Dym71
    Dym71 9 August 2019 16: 34
    +2
    One of the pressing questions: what, in fact, will this action lead to?

    The question is not easy, the question is from the bronchus!
    MOSCOW, August 9. / TASS /. The Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia will hold a large-scale avtozak driving tournament in Moscow on August 10. As TASS was told in the press service of the Moscow Federal Penitentiary Service, drivers of FSIN units from more than 10 regions of Russia will take part in it.
    1. Стена
      Стена 9 August 2019 16: 52
      +1
      Preparing for tomorrow's meeting. They are afraid that there may not be enough "funnels" from Moscow time.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 59
        -3
        Quote: Wall
        Fear that there may not be enough "funnels" from Moscow time

        Are you going to compete?
        1. Стена
          Стена 9 August 2019 17: 04
          +5
          I can't wait to "snitch". You will not get it.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 9 August 2019 17: 09
            -2
            Quote: Wall
            I can't wait to "snitch". You will not get it.

            I wasn't going to knock. I just want to wish you that you have "like in France")))
            1. Стена
              Стена 9 August 2019 17: 25
              +7
              Well, "ours" did not go far. And you, the apologist of the regime, will not continue to feel remorse when the young generation, which has an opinion different from the regime, is beaten to the left and to the right.
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 9 August 2019 17: 29
                -5
                Quote: Wall
                when left and right the younger generation is cheating

                So in childhood did not flog, have to make up.
                Quote: Wall
                opinion is different from the regime.

                They beat not for opinion, but for stupidity.
              2. K-612-O
                K-612-O 9 August 2019 18: 02
                +1
                Ahahah, you can see you did not go to rallies and football in the 90s. They did not see how they lambed, with clubs, legs, butts. I also want "like in France". Because of this move, I didn’t make it to Gorky Park with my children on July 27.07, these suckers don’t want to respect my rights?
              3. Vadim237
                Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 46
                -4
                You look as if in relation to you - ours have not reached the experience of the French.
            2. Revival
              Revival 10 August 2019 00: 21
              0
              Are you talking about "bread and cakes"?
              Ooooh ...
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 10 August 2019 08: 38
                0
                Quote: Revival
                Are you talking about "bread and cakes"?

                Yeah, about the rubber.
  7. Shuttle
    Shuttle 9 August 2019 16: 35
    +11
    “Once every few years, deciding which member of the ruling class will suppress, crush the people in parliament is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarism, not only in parliamentary-constitutional monarchies, but also in the most democratic republics.”
    V.I. Lenin, PSS, vol. 33, p. 46.

    100 years ago everything was already clear.
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 9 August 2019 16: 46
      -2
      But Lenin means the people did not suppress already?
      1. Ursus
        Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 14
        -1
        They taught us to believe that grandfather Lenin was honest, kind, and silver-free. Especially, the eyes are kind-kind, honest-honest. And somewhere far away with his hand shows, they say, there is a bright future, you are on the right path, comrades!
      2. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 9 August 2019 17: 37
        +4
        Suppressed those who disagreed and sabotaged the development of the new state. Now in the general structure of any state, isn’t it the same? Can I derail a train and nothing will happen?
        1. Alexander Ra
          Alexander Ra 9 August 2019 20: 16
          0
          “In Rostov, 300 Cossacks of the Don army were captured,” wrote Felix Edmundovich on December 000, 19. - In the area of ​​Novocherkassk, more than 1919 Cossacks are held captive by the troops of the Don and Kuban. In the city of Shakhty, Kamensk, more than 200 Cossacks are held. Recently, about a million Cossacks surrendered. The prisoners were placed as follows: in Gelendzhik - about 000 people, Krasnodar - about 500 people, in Belorechenskaya - about 000 people, Maykop - about 150 people, Temryuk - about 000 people. I ask for sanction.
          Chairman of the Cheka Dzerzhinsky. "
          Lenin’s resolution on the letter: “To shoot everyone to one. December 30, 1919. "
          "... Popov should be arrested as counter-revolutionaries and saboteurs, shot mercilessly and everywhere. And as much as possible ..."
          1. Ural-4320
            Ural-4320 9 August 2019 20: 32
            0
            And what happened to the narrow-eyed US population after Pearl Harbor? They didn’t shoot him well, but they simply brought him to a concentration camp under the root. How long has segregation been canceled in the USA?
            If these were captive Cossacks, then what result should be expected in wartime?
            Photos of captured Russian soldiers in WWI on the site in the article did not see? In those years, humanism did not particularly smell. Unless the sisters of mercy were.
            1. Alexander Ra
              Alexander Ra 9 August 2019 20: 54
              -2
              Quote: Ural-4320
              Suppressed those who disagreed and sabotaged the development of the new state.
              - genocide, in a crowd of Cossacks, intelligentsia, clergy.

              Quote: Ural-4320
              Can I derail a train and nothing will happen?
              - the analogy is inappropriate - and the Russian Empire was derailed.
              1. Ural-4320
                Ural-4320 9 August 2019 21: 21
                +2
                And now is not the genocide of Russians who in their own country have a minimum of living conditions? Moscow does not offer a comparison. Although in Moscow now there are fewer Russian faces.
                Quiet genocide with sauce "did not fit into modern realities."
                1. Alexander Ra
                  Alexander Ra 9 August 2019 21: 34
                  +1
                  Now genocide is even more insidious. Objection to the justification of the Leninist genocide and its presentation by the defense of the state. And today's orange provocateurs need to be punished.
                  1. Ural-4320
                    Ural-4320 9 August 2019 22: 54
                    -1
                    I do not condone the mistakes of the early USSR. I draw parallels with the rest of the world and come to the conclusion that the methods of that time are very similar for everyone. Humanism grew later, and in some places is still considered a curse word.
                    1. Alexander Ra
                      Alexander Ra 10 August 2019 08: 28
                      +1
                      Humanism must be very, very understood. The ideas of humanism have been developed in the West for a long time, Petrarch, Dante, etc. .. We are not the authors of humanism-ideology. We usually understand it as humanity, but it is everyday and superficially understood and accepted by us.
          2. reservist
            reservist 12 August 2019 12: 25
            0
            so right here Dzerzhinsky himself in 1919 year and wrote - "in Krasnodar"?

            but nothing that Ekaterinodar from 1918 to 1920 was for Denikin and was renamed to Krasnodar only in December 1920?

            Yes, and then lived in the city a little more than 100 thousand people and 500 thousand then probably from the whole Kuban could not be collected ...
  8. Gray brother
    Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 35
    0
    The Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia will hold a large-scale avtozak driving tournament in Moscow on August 10. As TASS was told in the press service of the Moscow Federal Penitentiary Service, drivers of FSIN units from more than 10 regions of Russia will take part in it.
    Participants will demonstrate skills of maneuvering with an obstacle in a city, knowledge of traffic rules and shooting skills.
    1. AUL
      AUL 9 August 2019 18: 44
      +3
      Are you intimidating?
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 August 2019 18: 45
        +1
        Quote: AUL
        Are you intimidating?

        I'm kidding.
    2. Revival
      Revival 10 August 2019 00: 24
      0
      Let's just say wretched and boring ...
  9. Revival
    Revival 9 August 2019 16: 37
    +8
    Judging by the headline, demanding fair elections is already arrogance, especially if you haven’t participated in the elections many times, and even better since the time of Alexander the 3rd
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 August 2019 18: 04
      -6
      When did you go to the local elections? Do you know your mundep, for example?
  10. yehat
    yehat 9 August 2019 16: 38
    +4
    But if the Moscow authorities are “not legitimate”, then there are no legitimate and Moscow privileges, Moscow surcharges, etc. It turns out that you need to go all the way to the disagreements and, for starters, give up everything in order to be with the rest of Russia

    Moscow privileges are in many cases enshrined in laws, regulations and documents
    the Moscow authorities basically just execute what has already been agreed upon before them, rather than knocking it all over again
    moreover, a significant part of the pie due to which the banquet is deductions from the federal budget and
    taxes of companies that do not receive the bulk of their income in the MSC.
    those. also not from Moscow.
    And the protest in the MSC is the most mobile for the trivial reason of providing citizens with money and work plus the emphasis on agitation in the MSC (everything is decided in the capital), and not because the Muscovites are the most conscious
    an attempt to hold a rally in Taimyr or somewhere near Chita can lead to the complete destruction of the village of protesters due to hunger and cold.
    1. Стена
      Стена 9 August 2019 17: 29
      -6
      Poor people only think about how to earn money for food, while more or less affluent people think about human dignity.
  11. Prutkov
    Prutkov 9 August 2019 16: 39
    +6
    The frightening thing is that all these "creative" young people in the future will claim leadership positions only by right of their Moscow residence permit. It makes sense at the legislative level to consolidate the need to attract specialists from other regions to leading positions in the governments of Moscow and St. Petersburg.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 43
      +3
      Quote: Rods
      St. Petersburg specialists from other regions.

      Only it is advisable not for those who fire a bolt in their regions.
    2. AleBors
      AleBors 9 August 2019 16: 47
      +8
      Quote: Rods
      youth in the future claims to leadership positions only by the law of their Moscow residence

      I beg you ... Where did you see in Moscow on the leadership of Muscovites? We have a mayor from Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug ... And there are a lot of visitors in the field ..
      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 9 August 2019 16: 54
        +4
        but here under the city there are a lot of summer residents of Moscow who come in large numbers (by the way, it’s still 6 days ... oh) ... so even
        1. AleBors
          AleBors 9 August 2019 17: 40
          -1
          Do not generalize in the first place. And secondly, I did not compete with you in the jokes.
    3. Ursus
      Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 48
      -4
      2 Rods (Kozma P)
      You have a beautiful brain! Polish left - and it will be brilliant!
      It seems that you, as the last proletarian, are excited for Moscow registration, and as the author of this opus - for an iPhone, as an indicator of prosperity and success;)
    4. Стена
      Стена 9 August 2019 17: 32
      0
      All hope is for this "creative" youth and no matter what region. And in 10-15 years they will occupy leading positions in the country and no one can prohibit this pattern.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 9 August 2019 18: 12
        +1
        In 10-15 years, young people will acquire families, apartments, occupy leadership positions, fill their pockets and will not differ from the current powers that be.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 52
        -3
        People like this herd of sheep will never take up leadership positions - there are few brains, and even with age they will not increase.
    5. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 9 August 2019 17: 38
      +4
      Who will let them go there? Those who will be in charge do not wear such a hat.
    6. dauria
      dauria 9 August 2019 23: 00
      +1
      It makes sense at the legislative level to reinforce the need to attract specialists from other regions to leading posts in the governments of Moscow and St. Petersburg.


      It makes sense the government, the State Duma and the president to relocate from Moscow somewhere to Tobolsk. In the days of the Internet, you can lead from there.
      And wait until the adder called Moscow will resolve itself for lack of dough.
      1. reservist
        reservist 12 August 2019 12: 34
        0
        why's that ? do not hope, all the "sticklers" will also move "somewhere in Tobolsk" ...
  12. Igor Shcherbina
    Igor Shcherbina 9 August 2019 16: 42
    +5
    If the opposition candidates were registered and not removed from the elections, there would be no rallies, the authorities are afraid that they will fly in the elections, United Russia, and independent candidates from the nucleus.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 44
      +1
      Quote: Igor Shcherbina
      If opposition candidates were registered,

      That would be a violation of the law.
      1. Igor Shcherbina
        Igor Shcherbina 9 August 2019 16: 48
        -1
        The government frankly violates itself by not allowing the opposition, does not register, under any pretext.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 54
          +3
          Quote: Igor Shcherbina
          The government frankly violates itself by not allowing the opposition,

          Not allowed fraudsters with signatures. When the signatures are collected, the data of the signatories is also collected with them, so it will not be difficult to prove their authenticity in court.
          But they do not go to court, but to the streets.

          Power acts within the framework of the law, for it is impossible to cave in under the scammers.
          1. Igor Shcherbina
            Igor Shcherbina 9 August 2019 17: 01
            +1
            I agree that the opposition is the same crooks, only they didn’t get a pie at the power trough, but those who head the Moscow power and should not be close to the power, as they are in charge now.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 9 August 2019 17: 08
              -1
              Quote: Igor Shcherbina
              but those who are in charge of Moscow power and should not be close to power, as they are in charge now.

              Normally they lead - the city is developing, I see it with my own eyes.
              I see no reason to replace them with someone who is not clear, the unacceptable characters are completely stoned - they will think about themselves and "overthrow the regime", and for this they will have to worsen the living conditions of the townspeople to create a "revolutionary situation" and therefore I see them exclusively as saboteurs ...
              As a Muscovite, I don’t need such passengers.
          2. Стена
            Стена 9 August 2019 17: 33
            0
            First you need to ensure the independence of the courts.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 9 August 2019 17: 37
              -1
              Quote: Wall
              First you need to ensure the independence of the courts.

              I am aware of how you determine the independence of the courts. Do not disgrace.
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 9 August 2019 17: 04
      -2
      Quote: Igor Shcherbina
      and there wouldn’t be any rallies,

      there is no time for the election, but after the lost elections, this liberal-Pro-Bandera riffraff would still cause unrest because of supposedly rigging ... no matter what fair elections are, these people cannot come to power legally, the only chance is a coup d'etat. ..
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 August 2019 18: 08
      0
      Would have been, only after the election. Nobody would have chosen them, but they would have screamed that their voices had been stolen. And also: signatures of the dead, schoolchildren and nonexistent people is this normal?
  13. reservist
    reservist 9 August 2019 16: 47
    +6
    ... But if the Moscow authorities "are not legitimate," then it means that there are no legitimate and Moscow privileges, Moscow surcharges, etc. It turns out that you need to go all the way to the dissent and for a start to give up everything,
    What kind of benefits and surcharges for dissent are we talking about?
    I know that they pay extra to Moscow pensioners, so pensioners are unlikely to buzz tomorrow ...
    if under "etc." I mean Moscow earnings, it is incorrect to talk about them in isolation from Moscow prices ...

    to be with the rest of Russia.
    As for the rest of Russia - in the department where I work, "one and a half excavators" were born and raised in Moscow, all the rest came to Moscow from the whole "rest of Russia" ...

    Is the passage above added as a "seed" of the flame on the theme "Russians vs Muscovites"?
  14. Ursus
    Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 48
    +9
    What do you think, the calls: "Marry Sechin \ Miller \ Gref (and more, and more and more, because their name is" legion ")", for gasoline and bread 100 each, for VAT 35%, for a pension of 80, for candidates who will be appointed without asking - would such slogans be more effective and attractive?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 55
      -2
      For anti-government activities and corruption - execution, would be a more effective solution instead of slogans. Russia will come to this.
      1. Ursus
        Ursus 9 August 2019 19: 21
        +1
        So far, just getting a basket of cookies and a barrel of jam, a privileged residence permit in the EU and a personal yacht in Como. Something like this!
      2. Revival
        Revival 10 August 2019 00: 31
        0
        Something you have a critical controversy crept into the comment
  15. yehat
    yehat 9 August 2019 16: 48
    +3
    Quote: Revival
    Question: what are his privileges and co-payments in Moscow, which he should refuse? AND?
    Or I don't know something about additional payments and benefits for "18 year olds"?

    student benefits on transport, social infrastructure
    the local location of the main federal public centers from the government to universities, exhibitions, ballet, etc.
    retirees receive subsidies and 18-year-olds do not need to help them live as often as they need somewhere in the Ryazan village "Big Ivy".
    The main stream of customs clearance and generally imported goods goes through the MSC, which makes them more accessible.
    not all benefits are payments of pocket money; there are a bunch of indirect benefits.

    18-year-olds do not have to go to study in another city, rent housing there and earn extra money in order to survive.
    18-year-olds do not have to go to a concert of most artists or groups in another city
    18 year olds do not have to go to look for work in another city
    18-year-olds do not have to go looking for rare services in another city
    18 year olds in MSCs generally do not bother much from what goes to their peers in other parts of the country.
    1. reservist
      reservist 9 August 2019 16: 59
      +3
      Quote: yehat
      student benefits for transportation

      Sorry, I just don’t know, but in other cities do students fully pay for transport?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 9 August 2019 19: 54
        0
        Quote: reservist
        R ° РІ РґСЂСѓРіРёС ... РіРѕСЂРѕРґР ° С ... СЃС‚СѓРґРµРЅС‚С ‹Р · Р ° трР° РЅСЃРїРѕСЂС‚ РІРѕ РїРѕР »РЅРѕР№ РІР» Р ° тяС

        For example, we have only minibuses, city buses do not have nifig. Maybe there is, but they can not see something. So pay in full. In general, even after 21-00, minibuses cease to go, except wherever you go by taxi.
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 9 August 2019 23: 04
          +1
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          For example, we have only minibuses, city buses do not have nifig. Maybe there is, but they can not see something. So pay in full. In general, even after 21-00, minibuses cease to go, except wherever you go by taxi.

          Similarly yes
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 9 August 2019 23: 16
            0
            Quote: Captain45
            Similarly

            And in Soviet times, the last bus with us in 23-55 departed from the final stop (I lived nearby). Under Gorbat, the schedule began to break, when for some reason gasoline interruptions began. Before that, everything was normal, the mother worked as a dispatcher at a girlfriend, they constantly warmed up in her closet, she drove waybills every 2-10 minutes.
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 9 August 2019 23: 30
              0
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              And in Soviet times, the last bus with us in 23-55 departed from the final stop (I lived nearby)

              And in our city at 2-30, two routes, the third shift from the tyazhmash plant, was taken away and just before the night train one stopped at the station. "Eh, time, time, times in life flew in vain. Tram" Pyaterochka "take me to Cheryomushki" (c) "Lube" drinks
        2. reservist
          reservist 12 August 2019 11: 08
          0
          yeah ... it's inhumane ... in Mytishchi, near Moscow, buses are also not everywhere / always go, but the local authorities at least obliged minibuses to allocate one "preferential" seat on the flight ...
    2. Стена
      Стена 9 August 2019 17: 35
      -5
      Well, why are young people from other regions also not trying to assert their right to the future.
  16. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 9 August 2019 16: 51
    -2
    the money laundering case will be untwisted and Mama’s revolutionaries will have to look for whom donatics should be sent from school lunches
    1. reservist
      reservist 9 August 2019 17: 09
      +5
      and the case will be promoted, and Grudinin will be "dispossessed" ...

      while he was quiet, nobody was up to his state farm ...
  17. MoJloT
    MoJloT 9 August 2019 16: 53
    +5
    In our tightly police state, their opinion, agreed or not, is punished by all the strictness of lawlessness.
  18. yehat
    yehat 9 August 2019 16: 54
    +2
    Quote: Rods
    The frightening thing is that all these "creative" young people in the future will claim leadership positions only by right of their Moscow residence permit. It makes sense at the legislative level to consolidate the need to attract specialists from other regions to leading positions in the governments of Moscow and St. Petersburg.

    this is no less frightening prospect. No artificial restrictions are needed.
    All that is needed is a normal retribution according to work and fair competition.
    There is nothing wrong with the fact that a resident of the capital will work as a manager.
    In a number of countries and in China, in particular, exams for civil servants and managers.
    Surrendered - and it doesn’t matter where you are from.
    In Japan, if you are not above the average level of mental development, if you are not fully adequate to very strict social requirements for behavior, your chances of becoming a successful manager - a civil servant or in the municipality - become very low.
  19. Ursus
    Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 59
    0
    Quote: Ursus
    What do you think, the calls: "Marry Sechin \ Miller \ Gref (and more, and more and more, because their name is" legion ")", for gasoline and bread 100 each, for VAT 35%, for a pension of 80, for candidates who will be appointed without asking - would such slogans be more effective and attractive?

    Comrade Major, I do not call; just asking for an alternative opinion.
  20. parusnik
    parusnik 9 August 2019 17: 01
    +2
    ... Liberals, versus liberals ... amusing ...
  21. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 9 August 2019 17: 03
    +2
    Protests periodically take place around the world, a common thing, what is there to discuss at all? This is their constitutional right, let them protest if everything is according to the law, if not then let them not complain that they are being held accountable in accordance with the law.
    1. Ursus
      Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 04
      +4
      (C) the law that drawbar
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 9 August 2019 17: 07
        0
        (C) The law is harsh, but it is a law
  22. Ursus
    Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 09
    +4
    Quote: _Ugene_
    (C) The law is harsh, but it is a law

    I agree. The main question is: who is harsh?
  23. samarin1969
    samarin1969 9 August 2019 17: 12
    +10
    Perhaps the authorities are best able to defend themselves. An arbitrary interpretation of the Constitution guarantees its lack of control.
    The authors of the provocative "Friday" see "non-systemic" citizens everywhere. With this ideology, let's return to the "systemic estates" and "noble assemblies".
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 9 August 2019 19: 15
      +4
      Quote: samarin1969
      Perhaps the authorities are best able to defend themselves. An arbitrary interpretation of the Constitution guarantees its lack of control.
      The authors of the provocative "Friday" see "non-systemic" citizens everywhere. With this ideology, let's return to the "systemic estates" and "noble assemblies".


      Exactly so, although we are not far from the estate, the president is the tsar, the deputies are the boyars, the Russian guard is the guardsmen, the ordinary hard workers are peasants, etc. ...... although in this situation I am more struck by the support of a part of the population - the tsar, you can see people are happy with everything in the country and they don’t need fair elections, they are satisfied with the pension reform, new taxes and the internal policy of the state as a whole, and if someone goes out to the rally and tries to realize their rights that are written down in the constitution, they are immediately set: liberals, 5 column, etc. and there are no options that these are not traitors to the motherland but people who want to change something in the country .....
  24. vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein 9 August 2019 17: 22
    0
    All the same, the increasing number of such marches, the involvement of more and more people, especially young people, cannot but worry. The bad thing is that this is becoming systematic. A system can only be destroyed by another system. Russia, as a state, needs a powerful ideological system, part of which should be a committee on ideology and countering ideological sabotage. I know it may sound strange, funny, retrograde, but in my opinion it is necessary. Otherwise, we will lose Russia. "We" are not only citizens of the Russian Federation, but also Russians, Russian-speaking, citizens of the former. USSR outside Russia, and just sane people.
  25. armata_armata
    armata_armata 9 August 2019 17: 29
    +2

    One of the pressing questions: what, in fact, will this action lead to?

    What’s the reason, to wild cries in the media about the orange coup)) And at the same time for a month they will forget all the problems of the Russian Federation, and if they succeed in selling such a bill to the sly https://utro.ru/life/2019/05/17/1400331. shtml
  26. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 9 August 2019 17: 31
    +1
    This is not about improvement. This is the protest of millionaires against billionaires. The guys wore a little from the blessings, a natural convulsion of misunderstanding "what's going on." Nothing good shines for an ordinary person, whether the government will meet the requirements or not. Real people continue to sleep, while the authorities and the protesters for transparency deprive us of social benefits, medicine, normal nutrition, education for our children, turn us into biomass at their request, into slaves. Unfortunately, for a real protest, people have to lose everything, but for now, the people in the majority are either tired or hope for something.
  27. Alsur
    Alsur 9 August 2019 17: 38
    -3
    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    Quote: Korpus
    I do not want more than 90s !!!

    And what are you doing to prevent the 90s from happening anymore? We are already very close to the 90s ..

    And in your opinion, the right way, whatever the return of 90, is to go to a rally and overthrow the insidious lord?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 August 2019 18: 58
      0
      In the 90s there was a collapse of everything and everything - this will not happen anymore, everything has changed a lot since then.
  28. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 9 August 2019 17: 44
    +3
    But if the Moscow authorities are “not legitimate,” then it means that Moscow’s benefits are not legitimate, Moscow surcharges, etc.

    Uh, no. Here the question must be posed differently. Benefits, surcharges and so on is the law. But the non-admission to the election of a candidate under the formal pretext is badly connected with the Constitution.
  29. evgen1221
    evgen1221 9 August 2019 17: 52
    -6
    Well, the grant-eaters have one methodology of the State Department - to nominate a obviously impassable candidate with a murky past and slogans, to hang up with signatures and papers, so that they can be wrapped up with a guarantee. Then we buy extras and several provocateurs and provide media support from each iron. As a result, supposedly in the wake of protests the power the candidate needed for wrecking (supposedly a compromise in exchange for the original candidate, plus concessions from the authorities) The result is that in Altai we make the road-lay asphalt 20 cm thick with a mesh, then 10 cm after fresh asphalt are cut to a landfill and lay fresh, and so 200 km of track (the latest technology speaks on TV) and how much money and resources are wasted ??? And where will we live well ??? And in what life?
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 9 August 2019 18: 54
      0
      Some kind of vinaigrette ... All in one pile.
  30. Teacher67
    Teacher67 9 August 2019 17: 55
    +5
    Quote: Revival
    You forgot to add the keywords Maidan and Ukraine, be careful, please, this is a clear flaw

    Now the dude will lose the prize))
  31. sevryuk
    sevryuk 9 August 2019 17: 59
    +2
    Quote: Silvestr
    So you are for the Civil War? According to recent polls, 9% of Muscovites are ready to go out, while 37% support the protest.

    An extra argument in favor of the fact that the capital needs to be transferred from Moscow, as it once was done in the USA, Canada, Brazil, etc. - for example, to Samara (according to the directives of Comrade Stalin).
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 August 2019 19: 00
      -3
      Yes, please - only you will pay for all this action.
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  34. ltc35
    ltc35 9 August 2019 18: 49
    0
    Quote: DigitalError
    Quote: Shuttle
    “Radical” calls to vote “against all”

    Selling a revolution - how much?
    I would like to see your interpretation of not radical ways to change the situation.

    To leave the whole population from Russia. Then there will be no one to rule and oppress them smile
  35. rus-5819
    rus-5819 9 August 2019 18: 57
    -1
    Question: “How many times have you participated in regional elections?”

    Answer: “I have 18. So far, never. ”

    Jewish mother escorts her son to Israel.
    - Zamyachka, if you suddenly get married there, then whatever you choose for yourself, I don’t like it anymore!laughinglaughing good
  36. LeonidL
    LeonidL 9 August 2019 19: 11
    +3
    Sergey Ponomarev
    5 August in 21: 21

    In Moscow there was again a swara
    At the height of the weekend
    Noisy ... on the boulevards -
    Well, what a strange No.№№?

    Similar as in a bank of sprats,
    Youngsters and young girls
    Rotten liberota flag
    We climbed out to the picket.

    On boobs full and muzzle
    Watch me honestly
    Well, I, but riot police
    This crowd was not lucky.

    We have a special regime in the country:
    Do you want power? Well, please!
    Here’s activist Luba Sable -
    She is a solid popol.

    No, to all clearly tell us:
    Program, they say, support,
    But there are no programs, but heaped up
    They only want to swing the mode.

    Have you completely fallen from the oak?
    What is your contra and what is pro?
    Why do you need the Moscow City Duma,
    Where about dumps and the subway?

    Well, experts, build yourself,
    Cook the answer, do not tremble!
    What is the plan for improvement in Moscow?
    Who to plant and what to plant?

    But no answer, no matter how hard
    They don’t know anything,
    In their ridiculous life and fat
    Quickly grown hipster.

    In their biographies, search
    So I just got in there,
    What is there, in the ass, a development plan -
    For them, this is a dark forest!

    From them the latte with the State Department pulls,
    They have a different home port,
    They do not care that the mayor Sobyanin,
    When from other countries support.

    But just tell them try
    As immediately insulting the rain,
    For them, like Lenin, Lyuba Sable -
    Aimless protest leader.

    Like a reborn Zasulich,
    And in my purse is pepper gas,
    Stick sticks in their priests -
    Freedom to have an orgasm.
    1. Candidate of Military Sciences
      Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 21: 30
      0
      They wrote everything correctly, the last quatrain must be implemented in the form of a law on punishment. There are absolutely no prerequisites for considering otherwise.
  37. Ursus
    Ursus 9 August 2019 19: 22
    +1
    Quote: K-612-O
    Would have been, only after the election. Nobody would have chosen them, but they would have screamed that their voices had been stolen. And also: signatures of the dead, schoolchildren and nonexistent people is this normal?

    did you personally see those signatures of schoolchildren and non-existent ones, or do you believe the news on the blue eye?
    1. morpogr
      morpogr 9 August 2019 20: 58
      -1
      And you take the word for those who gathered them, and those thousands who signed up and supported these * democrats * do not go to the call to come to the rally.
      1. Ursus
        Ursus 9 August 2019 21: 34
        +2
        I personally saw (I didn’t sign anything, because I don’t play politics). He listened and went on to dine further.
        So the authorities do not recommend walking. What is incomprehensible here? I have a job, a family, my chores. Old I already rally. For my age, my junk is enough. And the children have something to leave. So, what I personally have nothing to do there. But the fact that people left signatures - saw, heard, watched. So, do not confuse soft with warm.
    2. Candidate of Military Sciences
      Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 21: 41
      -3
      I personally saw, and how does this change the fact itself? They are now seen by law enforcement agencies - they are very interested in what they see. And you are a provocateur.
      1. Ursus
        Ursus 9 August 2019 21: 55
        +5
        Yes, you do not get so nervous, because you are writing something, God forgive me, absurd and indecent. Call here right and left, only for the reason that the opponent’s opinion does not fit into your primitive and straightforward reality.
        1. Candidate of Military Sciences
          Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 22: 05
          -4
          I'm not nervous, like you "opponents" I've been hitting backhand right in the face all my life ... absolutely silently. I am the son of my Motherland, I know well the history of my people and their culture, I am a Slav - for me there is not and never will be your "rightness" on my land.
          1. Ursus
            Ursus 9 August 2019 22: 12
            +4
            For God's sake! Beat and beat. If only I would file my teeth with a file to the enemies of the people, and let them. You live with it!

            Here the majority are Slavs and patriots, and the children of their homeland. In general, it is not clear what kind of "our rightness" and what kind of "your land" are we talking about? Is both signed somewhere? Is there a clear line that determines where is yours and where is ours? And why do you personally consider yourself in a greater right to this land?

            I am an adult, a full-fledged citizen of the Russian Federation, I live and work in this country in white, pay all taxes to the penny, do not violate and have no drives. Why is it that I have no place on "your" land, and who decided so?
            1. Candidate of Military Sciences
              Candidate of Military Sciences 10 August 2019 02: 43
              -3
              Don't talk nonsense, "comrade patriot." Declare one thing and confirm another. One cheap panic comes from you, nothing else - I am old and everything is bad in the country, and so much so that I will not believe anything until I step on the rake myself) ... This is the position, including, and is the basis for undermining any state ... building in any country. Sowing mistrust and challenging people with impossible tasks is sabotage and incitement. Therefore, do not talk nonsense.
              1. Ursus
                Ursus 10 August 2019 12: 48
                +1
                Your mental health is of great concern. I wish you a doctor, dear, before it's too late. You have a "wavka" in your head. This I kindly recommend to you, as a person in his contradictory past, spoiled by medical education.
                If you don’t take care now, there are high risks that you, as an aggressive, and therefore socially dangerous, need to be isolated in a special clinic, in a connected state. This is so that he would not inflict injury on himself. They will not even drip haloperidol. There are cheaper and more reliable drugs guaranteed to turn violent into a vegetable for a week.
                1. Candidate of Military Sciences
                  Candidate of Military Sciences 10 August 2019 19: 43
                  -2
                  Don't worry so "doctor"! )) Soon everyone will be cured and they will cure me and you too)) "The Internet" remembers everything and does not forgive anything ... I have a full examination in October, and then a vacation ticket, my "diseases" Motherland heals with such means, everything is for now arranges. But in the end, like all other "doctors", you will be given a slightly different choice - for example, "occupational therapy" and serkh doses of propaganda), there are other means ... Such are the things "doctor", doctors are watching me well)) ... as well as for you too.
                  1. Ursus
                    Ursus 11 August 2019 09: 58
                    +1
                    Heal and recover! All the best!
                    1. Candidate of Military Sciences
                      Candidate of Military Sciences 11 August 2019 11: 43
                      0
                      Thank you, too.
  38. morpogr
    morpogr 9 August 2019 19: 25
    0
    There will be all liberal-democratically crazy people, one third of them are journalists and bloggers, another third who have come to Moscow who cannot vote but are so worried about the elections to the Moscow City Duma and minors who will come for fun and movement.
    1. Candidate of Military Sciences
      Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 21: 56
      -5
      Yes, it’s planned. It is very important to stop the possibility of planning in principle.
  39. Candidate of Military Sciences
    Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 19: 27
    -5
    Dear authorities, trample them all while they are few. A bad example is contagious. Procrastinate - you have to wet it right in the streets.
  40. rayruav
    rayruav 9 August 2019 20: 05
    +2
    when they accepted the pension reform, at least someone went on strike, there will not be and will not be according to the old Soviet habit, the capitalists (including Putin) will never give up power just like that, I am surprised at some people (apparently young political economies did not pass) who believe in a conflict-free transfer of power from capital it’s funny to the people, but when the banks with the Rosgvardia take loans seriously, we’ll look there and bulk Sverdlov will seem
    1. Candidate of Military Sciences
      Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 21: 45
      -2
      Yes that's right. The formlessness of ideas about governing the state will work just this way more than once.
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  42. SPQR
    SPQR 9 August 2019 21: 08
    0
    It's disgusting to look at all this. Oh, how they rock the country .... Yes, problems above the roof. Under any government there will be discontent, opponents and critics. But all the same, the fate of the country should be decided at polling stations and not squares and avenues. The next revolution, and God forbid, Russia fell apart.
    Ps. I myself am not from Russia.
  43. O. Bender
    O. Bender 9 August 2019 21: 08
    +5
    Why is there no full name, nickname, tattoo of the author under this publication? The question is purely out of curiosity.
  44. Orkraider
    Orkraider 9 August 2019 21: 20
    0
    The topic is acute, let it dilute a little with humor)))
    1. Candidate of Military Sciences
      Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 21: 49
      -3
      You showed crap in this form useless for everything around.
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    1. Evil echo
      Evil echo 9 August 2019 21: 34
      +2
      Nevertheless, the victorious Bolsheviks created a state that the majority regrets for 30 years.

      And nothing to add.
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 10 August 2019 17: 40
      0
      Nevertheless, the victorious Bolsheviks created a state that the majority regrets for 30 years ....

      Who is the majority?
      There are not many of them, mostly pensioners. The new generation does not want back.
  46. Evil echo
    Evil echo 9 August 2019 21: 33
    0
    Nobody argues, transparent elections are the dream of the entire Club of Friday Lovers.

    If only someone hinted where they are, transparent elections. It's really interesting to see. Some kind of sad statistics looms - after the elections "protest" and the country in the priest. I don't want to be in the 90s.
  47. Nikolai
    Nikolai 9 August 2019 22: 27
    -3
    Money will end, and will move. Bulk with Sable on an economic clause as thieves. And defective youths and hysterical young women will always be enough, it is necessary to treat.
  48. Captain45
    Captain45 9 August 2019 23: 14
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich
    Money will end, and will move. Bulk with Sable on an economic clause as thieves.

    So there was already a message that the UK had arrested the accounts of Navalny FBK as part of an investigation into money laundering through FBK.
  49. mavrus
    mavrus 9 August 2019 23: 37
    +1
    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    One of the pressing questions: what, in fact, will this action lead to?


    It’s a pity that this action will not lead to anything real .. Only if half a million people gather, maybe the government will think about it. But really 20 thousand will come.

    And if there are more than 20 thousand REDUCED CHILDREN, then we will have to think about it ... Isn't it time to pick up the "club" and deal with these Judas ourselves, while the authorities lisp at them.

    Today, all the "foreign" media are broadcasting about the twentieth anniversary of Putin's rule, so directly sobbing and snot to the floor that with him these Maydayns are detained ... Something in 92 and until October 93, when not a single speech against Yeltsin not without injuries, and in October the protesters were shot and not only from small arms, but also from armored personnel carriers and tanks ... these media then did not even stutter "about the lawlessness of power."
    And how then the liberals of all stripes screamed - "crush the reptile!" meaning patriots ... So what is stopping us from crushing the fifth column?
  50. BigBoss
    BigBoss 10 August 2019 08: 30
    +3
    I’m most likely zamusunut and thrown slippers, but I completely agree with this person:
    Politician Yakov Kedmi, participating in various political talk shows in Russia, said: Russia's main problem is today's anti-national elite According to him, the Russian elite is absolutely anti-national. She is not interested in the development of Russia and does not want to associate herself with the country. It is no coincidence that the families of these people live abroad, their children receive education there, and there is the property and money of the Russian elite. Kedmi asks: is it possible to imagine that the Israeli elite kept their families in Iran and stored money there? Answer: this is not possible. Are there big officials in the United States whose families live in Russia and keep money there? This is also from the realm of fantasy, says Kedmi. In Russia, a significant part of the elite has real estate in countries that are waging an economic war against Russia. These countries impose sanctions against Russia. At the same time, the Russian elite complies with the laws of the country where its property and families are located. There is a clear conflict of interest. About 200 thousand families of Russian officials live in London alone, where every fifth mansion belongs to a Russian citizen, Kedmi notes. Moreover, it is not entirely clear at what expense the officials themselves get all this. Having outlined the situation, Kedmi concludes that the country's problem is in its current elite. Without a change in the elite, Russia does not have a normal future.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 10 August 2019 17: 42
      0
      I completely agree with Kedmi.