US threatens Berlin with relocation of part of its army from Germany to Poland

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The United States may withdraw part of its military contingent from Germany and deploy it in Poland. The reason for this is the reluctance of Berlin to increase its military spending, the television channel reports. ARD with reference to a statement by the US ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell.

US threatens Berlin with relocation of part of its army from Germany to Poland




According to Grenell, part of the US military contingent may be redeployed from Germany to Poland due to Germany’s reluctance to increase defense spending to 2% of GDP. The US ambassador accused Germany of using the budget for domestic spending, not military spending. Grenella was supported by the US ambassador to Poland, Joggett Mosbacher, who stated that, unlike Germany, Poland fulfills all its obligations to the United States and NATO on defense spending.

It’s really insulting to expect that the American taxpayer will continue to pay for more than 50 of thousands of Americans in Germany, while the Germans use their trade surplus for domestic purposes

he said, adding that now is the time to act and US President Donald Trump must respond to Berlin's ignoring of US demands.

President Trump is right, and Georgette Mosbacher is right. Numerous presidents have asked Europe's largest economy to pay for its own defense. This is a request that has dragged on for many years and many governments. The time has come for decisive action

- emphasized Grenell.

It should be noted that in Germany the largest military contingent of the American army is located - 35 of thousands of troops. In addition, 17 of thousands of American and 12 of thousands of German civilians performing work at American military bases, etc. belong to it. At the same time, despite Trump's demands to increase defense spending to 2% of GDP, Berlin is in no hurry to do this, raising it to 1,36% this year.

At the same time, Poland only welcomes the deployment of an additional US military contingent, saying that they are ready to spend "additional funds" on it.
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  1. Underwater hunter
    +21
    9 August 2019 14: 58
    The Germans are great, you need to drive the Americans to their own land, even if there they deploy their contingents .. Poles become their beloved wife ..
    1. +16
      9 August 2019 15: 02
      Not a beloved wife, but rather a fat target for our missiles in the event of a likely conflict between Russia and the USA! The history of the Poles taught nothing!
      1. +26
        9 August 2019 15: 06
        Everything was done on purpose, in order to pull the troops closer to Russia.
        1. +4
          9 August 2019 15: 29
          Quote: Teacher67
          Everything was done on purpose, in order to pull the troops closer to Russia.

          Yes, much closer. And so already look into your pocket
          1. 0
            9 August 2019 16: 09
            Yes, they would move directly to us, in the Kaliningrad region. We will look after them well.
            1. +3
              9 August 2019 16: 18
              Quote: Underwater Hunter
              The Germans are great, you need to drive the Americans to their own land, even if there they deploy their contingents .. Poles become their beloved wife ..


              Drive then drive, but the Americans will never leave voluntarily, they are bluffing.
              1. Underwater hunter
                +1
                9 August 2019 16: 25
                Quote: cniza
                Drive then drive, but the Americans will never leave voluntarily, they are bluffing.

                Yes you are right. But the Germans apparently chose a different path - not to pay. Which is also not bad.
                1. 0
                  9 August 2019 16: 28
                  They will strangle and blackmail, Germany has one way, if they want sovereignty, it is to turn to Russia.
                  1. Underwater hunter
                    -1
                    9 August 2019 16: 38
                    Quote: cniza
                    They will strangle and blackmail, Germany has one way, if they want sovereignty, it is to turn to Russia.

                    The Germans are a practical people and if we had the same strong consumer ability as in America, I would have thought I would have turned for a long time. But even if we theoretically assume that they will turn to us, they say Russia, help get rid of the damned American, how could we help them? I think there is nothing at the moment, maybe the UN would call on to stigmatize the occupation, but that’s all.
                    1. +4
                      9 August 2019 16: 41
                      Of course, the Russian market is smaller than the American one, but given the losses of Germany - Europe from US actions, we are already balancing.
              2. +3
                9 August 2019 16: 53
                Quote: cniza
                but the Americans will never leave voluntarily

                Like cockroaches.
                Well, or bugs. If you stick, you won’t get anything
                1. +3
                  9 August 2019 16: 56
                  Worse, they have great interest there.
                  1. +1
                    9 August 2019 18: 39
                    Quote: cniza
                    Worse, they have great interest there.

                    They have it everywhere.
                    Eyes clawing, hands clawing
                2. 0
                  9 August 2019 19: 23
                  Well, or bugs. If you stick, you won’t get anything

                  One guy got bugs on the couch, he asks his friend:
                  - What am I supposed to do, how can I get them out?
                  And a friend says to him:
                  - Now winter, you take the sofa and pull it out into the street, they will run away from the cold, and then you drag the sofa back home.
                  Well, he did. The next day, a friend calls and asks:
                  “Well, how did you get there?”
                  “Yeah, you won’t believe it. I did everything as you said.” They felt cold, they took a sofa and dragged home back ... wassat
              3. +1
                9 August 2019 19: 10
                Quote: cniza
                Drive then drive, but the Americans will never leave voluntarily, they are bluffing.

                ordinary blackmail ... wink
                1. +2
                  9 August 2019 19: 11
                  And badly hidden.
                  1. +1
                    9 August 2019 19: 26
                    Quote: cniza
                    And badly hidden.

                    they don’t even bother to hide anyway ....
                    1. +2
                      9 August 2019 20: 56
                      They are exceptional.
              4. 0
                9 August 2019 20: 07
                Quote: cniza
                Drive then drive, but the Americans will never leave voluntarily, they are bluffing.

                so they didn’t say that they would leave
                часть US military contingent may be relocated from Germany to Poland
                1. +2
                  9 August 2019 21: 30
                  Quote: poquello
                  part of the US military contingent can be relocated from Germany to Poland

                  The Germans are "crying"!
                  1. +1
                    9 August 2019 21: 32
                    Quote: major147
                    Quote: poquello
                    part of the US military contingent can be relocated from Germany to Poland

                    The Germans are "crying"!

                    no, they quietly hope that they will get everyone out
                    1. +2
                      9 August 2019 21: 33
                      Quote: poquello
                      no, they quietly hope that they will get everyone out

                      "This is unlikely!" (c) Comrade Sukhov
                      1. +1
                        9 August 2019 21: 34
                        Quote: major147
                        Quote: poquello
                        no, they quietly hope that they will get everyone out

                        "This is unlikely!" (c) Comrade Sukhov

                        pipe dreams german
        2. +2
          9 August 2019 16: 11
          Quote: Teacher67
          Everything was done on purpose, in order to pull the troops closer to Russia.

          Closer to Russia they are more vulnerable, communications are increasing, etc.
      2. -7
        9 August 2019 17: 36
        If the conflict developed in 80/90? Then yes. At the moment, the threat is pushed back. The states, having forgiven the probabilities, came to the conclusion that they would receive a maximum of 8-10 hits without critical damage to the population and infrastructure. Europe too! Although Europe is not a pity and everyone knows why. Therefore, just strained Deutsche.
        P.S. (Ru_Na) When fat targets happen, you don’t even have time to say ah! With the scoop, the operators, in principle, managed to drink a bottle from the throat. But I also had to talk! :). Do not write about what you do not have knowledge!
        1. +3
          9 August 2019 20: 11
          Quote: dgonni
          Do not write about what you do not have knowledge!

          in, do not write
    2. +20
      9 August 2019 15: 05
      The Poles have been littering their whole history, they will not get used to it, but the Germans will be glad to see if the Americans remove from Germany, at least a part.
      1. +4
        9 August 2019 15: 31
        Quote: Egorovich
        but the Germans will only be glad if the Americans from Germany clean up, at least a part.

        Yes they can make it a festive day
        "Day of the first day of the end of the occupation"
      2. +4
        9 August 2019 15: 44
        The Germans will probably announce the national holiday. When the mattresses are dumped, they will also take away the Namstein. Three Germans will kill the hare, the Poles will go around the world (this is about the white elephant), they will cease to be a target, and, in principle, you can even reduce the army)))))
    3. +6
      9 August 2019 15: 07
      The Germans need to subsidize the Poles and the Baltic states to cut back then it will immediately determine who whose favorite litter is.
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 15: 48
        Quote: sir.jonn
        The Germans need to subsidize the Poles and the Baltic states to cut back then it will immediately determine who whose favorite litter is.

        Yes, it seems like in 20 they will stop subsidizing them. Therefore, they will hyster and become "beloved wives" to zaluzhniki
        1. 0
          9 August 2019 19: 47
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Yes, it seems like in 20 they will stop subsidizing them

          There, the European Parliament will push sticks into the wheels, and it consists of half of these eurobreams.
    4. +4
      9 August 2019 15: 19
      Yes, the problem winked at the level of German GDP, the "minimum" payments should be about 72 billion euros. This is equivalent to the combined annual budgets of several individual NATO countries combined. Of course, in Berlin "they scratch their turnips" recourse that the current 37 billion euros for NATO from Germany is enough.
    5. +6
      9 August 2019 15: 24
      Here the Germans will be upset if the American troops leave.
      All accordions will tear :))
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 15: 32
        Quote: den3080
        Here the Germans will be upset if the American troops leave.
        All accordions will tear :))

        Yes, and all the shtatovsky trash will be sent to them after
      2. 0
        9 August 2019 19: 49
        they love lips, in films about war games they are shown with this ridiculously they’re trulling with her mouth
    6. +2
      9 August 2019 16: 23
      "The American ambassador accused Germany of using the budget for domestic spending, not the military."
      Here are the Germans, these bastards, not only do not pay, but they are also trying to fuse this ambassador to Russia!
    7. 0
      9 August 2019 19: 44
      Hunter and you don’t see any pitfalls? The difference is Germany, Poland, we have a mile before us
  2. +3
    9 August 2019 15: 00
    Well, as they say ahead with the songs, especially since the Poles themselves are ready to lick the tracks along which the American troops will pass!
    1. +2
      9 August 2019 15: 33
      Quote: Ru_Na
      ready to lick the paths along which the American troops will pass!

      Not all. Only in those places where they will turn out of need lol
  3. 0
    9 August 2019 15: 07
    A woman with a cart is easier for a mare. So the proverb sounds like.
    Although for the Poles it is almost sedition ... in relation to the mattresses.
  4. +3
    9 August 2019 15: 08
    US threatens Berlin with relocation of part of its army from Germany to Poland


    Then piss off!

    If anything, then the retaliatory strike will destroy Poland, not Germany.
    The Poles themselves asked for the same ..

    laughing

    US threatens Berlin with relocation of part of its army from Germany to Poland
    1. +1
      9 August 2019 15: 34
      Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub
      If anything, then the retaliatory strike will destroy Poland, not Germany.

      Yes, something tells me that if there is little, the Germans will add to them
  5. 0
    9 August 2019 15: 10
    And the Poles can get ... not whining so skating!
    1. 0
      9 August 2019 15: 36
      Quote: rocket757
      And the Poles can get ...

      And can they be any masahists? feel
      The more they get in the sciatica, the more they beg for continuations
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 18: 37
        Belief in minke whales with them and some others is absolute! In an alliance with the Fuhrer, they also wanted, then with the Britons .....
        don't want to remember anything
  6. +3
    9 August 2019 15: 11
    I don’t understand what is the threat to Germany?
    I see only a decrease in their problems.
    1. +3
      9 August 2019 15: 26
      That’s exactly what Germany doesn’t have any external threats in the long term. And certainly Russia doesn’t threaten Germany in any way. Who should I fight with? Who should I defend against? In general, stop all deductions to NATO and maintain their army at the proper level.
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 15: 38
        Quote: axiles100682
        and keep your army up to date

        If anything with a weapon, we will help
        1. +1
          9 August 2019 15: 39
          Yes, they themselves did good weapons before.
          1. 0
            9 August 2019 15: 50
            Quote: axiles100682
            Yes, they themselves did good weapons before.

            This is before. They practically blocked oxygen from the hostesses. Look at what they have in service. Everything is already outdated
        2. +2
          9 August 2019 20: 18
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: axiles100682
          and keep your army up to date

          If anything with a weapon, we will help

          medals "For the Defense of Berlin!" stamp
      2. 0
        9 August 2019 19: 51
        so still at these yards we have to buy weapons
    2. 0
      9 August 2019 15: 37
      Quote: yehat
      I don’t understand what is the threat to Germany?

      This record stuck in this place again
    3. 0
      9 August 2019 16: 17
      You really don’t understand?
      US bases and troops employ hundreds of thousands of people.
      I am for it, let them be cleaned, but unemployed, taxes and payments to the social budget will decrease.
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 16: 24
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        but unemployed, taxes and payments to the social budget will decrease.

        Migrants imposed by felons will be sent home and unemployed will be reduced and everything else will normalize
  7. +2
    9 August 2019 15: 13
    US threatens Berlin with relocation of part of its army from Germany to Poland

    This is what now turns out: the USA will cease to occupy Germany and occupy Poland? recourse
    1. +2
      9 August 2019 15: 22
      Quote: Amateur
      occupy Poland?

      Well, Czechoslovakia is no longer there, so you have to start right away from Poland.
    2. +3
      9 August 2019 15: 32
      Quote: Amateur
      This is what now turns out: the USA will cease to occupy Germany and occupy Poland?

      No wonder! Wherever the SGA climbed, they do not voluntarily leave! They will not leave Germany, the Baltic states, as well as Poland and Afghanistan with Iraq and Syria! And I will crawl into a bunch of countries to promote my financial interests in the sale of used weapons and plant their "rulers"!
    3. +1
      9 August 2019 15: 39
      Quote: Amateur
      This is what happens now: the USA will cease to occupy Germany and occupy Poland

      And we are even better. Let them put all the eggs in one basket.
      It’s easier and easier to cover them.
  8. HAM
    +9
    9 August 2019 15: 18
    Funny occupants say: "pay the rent, for the fact that we occupy you! And then we will leave if you don't pay ...." I cried .. crying
  9. +1
    9 August 2019 15: 21
    It is unlikely that the Germans will be very worried about this.
  10. 0
    9 August 2019 15: 29
    Quote: Gray Brother
    Well, Czechoslovakia is no more

    you do not say this to the Czechs, they may not understand.
    1. 0
      9 August 2019 15: 37
      Quote: yehat
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Well, Czechoslovakia is no more

      you do not say this to the Czechs, they may not understand.

      But can you say Slovaks? wink laughing
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 15: 40
        can. This is called pride in their textbooks.
        the Germans, de_bila, united Germany on their own head, not like proud Slovaks paired with the Albanians, the European center of the drug mafia and human trafficking.
  11. 0
    9 August 2019 15: 34
    They (the Americans did indeed conceive a nuclear controversy) are provocation of the Poles and the Americans fall in distribution in a poland, immediately proactively minus the Baltic states and minus all of Poland. On the plus side, Americans in white backers we organized because the Sankordon, and no one would think that the Amers needed it, because we need a war with any result, but most importantly, with the participation of their geopolitical opponents and friends, it’s necessary to write off the public debt while this at least means something, and it does not matter with what result the war will be.
  12. +1
    9 August 2019 15: 39
    Super American Partnership! Pursue their tenants, provide them with priority in the use of housing, and even require the owners to pay their bills ...
    I just want to ask: - "Hey, Germans, are you still in your apartment or already in a rented apartment!"
    1. +3
      9 August 2019 15: 53
      Quote: Vladimir61
      "Hey, Germans, you are still in your apartment or already in a rented apartment!"

      They should have read our fairy tale "Teremok"
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 16: 11
        Quote: Lipchanin
        They should have read our fairy tale "Teremok"
        So in the West, it seems, they do not profess our values ​​of the community - "in cramped quarters, but not in offense"! They don't seem to want to build a new house on the terms of partners, so it's time to scatter. Whether to decide and whether they will ...
        1. +1
          9 August 2019 16: 26
          Quote: Vladimir61
          So in the West, it seems, they do not profess our values ​​of the community - "in cramped quarters, but not in offense"!

          So there is another meaning, The owner was kicked out of the house
          1. +1
            9 August 2019 16: 27
            Quote: Lipchanin
            So there is another meaning, The owner was kicked out of the house
            Yes, the owner was kicked out when they created the EU! But the responsible tenant has remained ...
      2. 0
        9 August 2019 19: 53
        and when the tower will fall apart
  13. +3
    9 August 2019 15: 45
    US troops generally must get out of Europe. Russia with a fool withdrawn its troops from Germany and Poland, and now we have got smirking smug Landsknechts from the United States on its borders. Today at the borders, and tomorrow again near Moscow?
    It is necessary for these scoundrels from Poland, the USA and Germany to install LCD screens and show newsreel footage non-stop about the end of the Battle of Stalingrad with the German "heroes" and the drive of German prisoners of war through the streets of Moscow in 1944. And behind the LCD screens are the Grad and Smerch divisions. You can also use German newsreels about the defeat of the Americans in the Ardennes in 1945.
    1. 0
      9 August 2019 15: 53
      Quote: 1536
      Russia with a fool withdrawn its troops from Germany and Poland,

      Russia did not withdraw any troops. Learn materiel
      1. 0
        9 August 2019 16: 01
        For fans of equipment. In 1989-1994, the Western Group of Forces existed. In December 12 1991, the Supreme Council of the RSFSR ratified the Bialowieza Accords. On 26 of December 1991 of the year, the Russian Federation became an independent state and was recognized by the world community as the assignee of the USSR. So who removed the troops of the Western Group of Forces in 1994? Already Russia, dear.
        1. +1
          9 August 2019 16: 07
          Quote: 1536
          . In December 12, 1991, the Supreme Council of the RSFSR ratified the Bialowieza Accords.

          When he was part of the USSR. Do you see the word Russian Federation there?
          So who removed the troops of the Western Group of Forces in 1994?

          So who signed the decree on the withdrawal of troops? President of the Russian Federation?
          1. 0
            9 August 2019 16: 13
            Who was part of the USSR? PGW or something, so the group is a feminine word. On 26 of December 1991 of the year the Russian Federation became an independent state, I repeat once again for fans of the element base. And who signed the decree (!) On the withdrawal of troops? It even became interesting.
            1. 0
              9 August 2019 16: 27
              Quote: 1536
              Who was part of the USSR?

              RSFSR
              And who signed the decree (!) On the withdrawal of troops? It even became interesting.

              Does the surname Gorbachev not speak of anything?
              1. 0
                9 August 2019 16: 50
                Dear, after M.S. Gorbachev in power so much water has flowed under the bridge. After Foros (1989), this citizen generally returned to another country, in his own words. By 1994, this country was changing almost every year. The disadvantage of the withdrawal of troops was obvious, the irresponsibility that accompanied this withdrawal at all levels bordered, if not with a crime, then certainly NOT with common sense. Then it was high time to revise the irresponsible decisions of the members of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, adopted in the late 1980s at meetings with the leaders of the United States, Germany and Britain, to cancel a number of decisions of this not legitimate body in terms of state governance of the country (USSR, mind you). In the Russian army by that time, orders were given, and decrees were adopted by state governing bodies - the Council of Ministers of the USSR and the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. It just so happened. The post of "President of the USSR" was also hastily organized. But this is more from a series of curiosities than reality.
                But further, dear, I will not talk about anything and talk with you about anything.
                1. 0
                  9 August 2019 17: 08
                  Quote: 1536
                  Dear, after the stay of M.S. Gorbachev’s power flowed so much water.

                  So it’s not me who remembered the withdrawal of troops from the GDR
                  With him, he began
                  But further, dear, I will not talk about anything and talk with you about anything.

                  Yes, after your speech, there’s nothing to say about it, I, too, like that, all my desire disappeared in the future to read such a waterfall
  14. +2
    9 August 2019 15: 59
    Scared the goat with cabbage. Gather into a bunch of all Russophobic idiots in Poland how the Lord gathered girls with reduced social responsibility on the same ship, and put an end to this issue at once. And we have less costs and harm to nature is not so extensive.
  15. +1
    9 August 2019 16: 02
    The United States generally pounded the Germans .. But I remember at the Ardennes the Germans gave the Americans a "light", they immediately asked for help from the USSR .. Oh, Merkel, what have you turned Germany into!
  16. 0
    9 August 2019 16: 12
    The United States may withdraw part of its military contingent from Germany and deploy it in Poland.

    And what is not to oneself, across the ocean?
  17. 0
    9 August 2019 16: 43
    the ultimatum from the Yankees sounds something like this; - if you underpay, then we will stop raping you. amazing arrogance, conceit, shamelessness, or what can you call it!?. The Germans had a chance to get rid of the occupation, just by simply ceasing to pay for it.
  18. +1
    9 August 2019 16: 53
    Panov will be only happy!
  19. 0
    9 August 2019 16: 53
    Well, threatened, so what? And even if they transfer, then instead of 35 kilos of amer-soldiers in the FRG there will remain 30. Does this change something?
  20. 0
    9 August 2019 17: 26
    Previously, as a rule, they threatened with the introduction of troops, and now with the withdrawal! What a time!
  21. 0
    9 August 2019 17: 34
    Is it possible to offend amers so that they generally get out into their pig-united states?
  22. 0
    9 August 2019 17: 54
    At the same time, Poland only welcomes the deployment of an additional US military contingent, saying that they are ready to spend "additional funds" on it.
    Additional funds ... belay
  23. +1
    9 August 2019 17: 58
    Scarecrow Ali Hedgehog naked profile laughing The Germans will only be for it - not only that the dohrena of the land and special facilities, such as the German hefty clinic, which the mattresses are absolutely free to use for themselves, is freed, so Germany also falls out of the scope of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation!
    They will write you a kick on the track, the invaders!
  24. 0
    9 August 2019 19: 42
    Is this not a dream! Recently there was an article about intelligence on the location of fascists in front of WWII at our borders, if you now look at the deployment of at least amers in geyropa
  25. 0
    9 August 2019 19: 55
    Did the Germans stop being their beloved wife? Younger Poles and legs spread wider?
  26. 3vs
    0
    9 August 2019 20: 02
    "The United States can withdraw some of its military contingent from Germany and deploy it in Poland."
    The Germans, probably in joy, will arrange an extraordinary all-German Oktoberfest on this occasion! Yes
  27. 0
    9 August 2019 20: 23
    The Polish government will take loans in the USA to contain the invaders of Germany. From this, the Federal Republic of Germany will not become de-occupied, but US troops will stand near the Kaliningrad region and Belarus. The answer to this tricky operation should be the occupation of Ukraine or surrender. Those. there is a choice.
  28. DPN
    0
    9 August 2019 21: 47
    Now Poland has become the front line of NATO, Americans are not needed in Germany, they are far from profitable for Moscow, and 5 minutes of flight from Poland with Gulkin’s nose.
  29. +1
    10 August 2019 03: 46
    Oh, what a "grief" awaits the unfortunate byogers, when American parasites from them, at last, begin to dump in parts and, as a result, entirely.)) ... Germany is such a "helpless" country, how can she survive it! )).
  30. 0
    10 August 2019 08: 37
    Scared Yizh naked booty.