"It was a busy time" - British Navy on the escort of "Vasily Bykov"

In the royal navy On August 8, it was announced that his HMS Forth patrol ship had just returned to British waters after its first visit to a foreign port. During this deployment, he was called to follow on the heels of the Russian ship of project 22160 "Vasily Bykov".

Forth left Gibraltar on 31 in July before heading north for harsh weather testing. After that, HMS quickly replenished supplies at Devonport and went to sea, getting ready to meet Vasily Bykov. This ship has already left the North Sea, returning after participating in the celebration of the Navy Day in St. Petersburg.

This was a particularly stressful time for HMS Forth, as we [ship's team] are moving to the deployment phase and are continuing to test our ship's capabilities. I am proud of the crew that accepted this extra challenge.

- said the chief, Lieutenant Samuel Fields, at the end of the escort of Vasily Bykov.

As the Royal Navy explains, HMS Forth continues to prepare for the upcoming deployment in the Falkland Islands, scheduled for later this year, where it will replace HMS Clyde.

HMS Forth is the lead in the River Batch 2 project patrol ship series. It was commissioned in the year 2018. "Vasily Bykov" is also the first representative of the 22160 type and the "weather" of his British "classmate".

Comments

[Terenin]

. After that, HMS quickly replenished supplies in Devonport and went to sea, getting ready to meet Vasily Bykov

Well, that won't work. . You will cease to chew food 75 times. Ah, sanctions on Russia because of your heartburn

[Sergey39]

What difficult tasks does the British fleet have to escort a ship passing peacefully.

[Grits]

Quote: Sergey39

What difficult tasks does the British fleet have to escort a ship passing peacefully.

Moreover, "Vasily Bykov" is a completely peaceful ship. With his weapons, you can only frighten seagulls, so he walks from the seas very peacefully. I would even say - at attention.

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Gritsa

"Vasily Bykov" is a quite peaceful ship. With his weapons, you can only frighten seagulls

HMS Forth is also not a linear battleship at all. Armament: 1 × 30 mm cannon; 2 × General purpose machine guns; 2 × Miniguns; Merlin capable flight deck. 22160 is not even a missile frigate, but in extreme need it is possible to deliver container modules with a caliber and Club-K, and it has higher PLO capabilities.
The article says that "classmate", but project 22160 is a patrol in the far sea zone, and the Amazonas class is positioned as a patrol in the river and near sea zones.

[rocket757]

It was a particularly stressful time for HMS Forth as we

Yes, their ancestors in the gro .... do not feel rest, from such descendants !!! Routine patrol \ escort is called a CHALLENGE to everything and everything ???
In short, ancestors could have burst into bitter tears, as if they would have drowned!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: rocket757

call CHALLENGE to everything and everything ???

Or maybe we don't know something about Bykov ...

[rocket757]

Shaw Bulls ??? MAESTRO in one word !!!!
Who of their sailors / commanders watched? Then .... fuck-tibidoch-tah-tah!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Paranoid50

Or maybe we don't know something about Bykov ...

Yes, everything seems to be known, only in terms of combat capabilities will he be stronger than the British, but more diverse, or something ...

CHARACTERISTICS
Standard displacement: about 1 300 - 1500 t.
Length: 91,0 - 94,0м; Width: 14,0 - 14,2м; Draft: 3,4 - 4,4 m.
Main power plant (GEM) of CODAG type. Power plant power 25000 kW. Full speed, up to 27 - 30 knots. Patrol speed: about 16 knots. D sailing patrol speed: up to 6 miles at V = 000 knots. Electric power plant: 16 diesel generators with a capacity of 4 kW, 300 emergency diesel generator with a capacity of approx. 1 kW.
Autonomy: 60 days Crew: 24 people Places for l / s depending on the destination (including including spare) - up to 80 people.
ARMAMENT
Artillery weapons:
• 1x 57-mm gun mount A-220M
Anti-aircraft missile weapons:
• 1 turret anti-aircraft missile launcher "Gibka" • 8 MANPADS 9K38 "Igla"
Additional weapons: • 2 x 14,5mm naval pedestal machine gun mounts.
Additional weapons installed at the request of the customer:
• 1 SAM “Shtil-1 ″ with 2 modular launchers 3S90E.1
• 1 integrated caliber-NKE missile system up to 8 anti-ship missiles
Anti-sabotage weapons:
• 2 grenade launchers DP-65
• 1 sonar detection of divers "Pallada"
Radio weapons:
• 1 air and surface target detection radar "Pozitiv-ME1"
• 1 navigation radar "Pal-N"
Hydroacoustic armament:
• 1 GAK MGK-335EM-03
• 1 GAS "Vignette-EM"
Electronic countermeasures:
• 1 shipborne electronic countermeasures complex TK-25E
• 1 jamming complex PK-10
Aircraft weapons:
• Telescopic hangar and runway with facilities for takeoff, landing and maintenance of a search and rescue helicopter weighing up to 12 tons of the Ka-27 PS / Ka-62 "Minoga" type.
Sources: OSK, Northern Design Bureau, Zelenodolsk Plant them. Gorky, SPKB annual report for 2016, bmpd.livejournal.com, sdelanounas.ru, etc.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Yes, everything seems to be known, only in terms of combat capabilities will he be stronger than the British, but more diverse, or something ...

In theory. And in the distant future - because the only module available "in hardware" for 22160 is a diving module.
So in practice, all that 22160 has is one AK-176, a pair of 14,5 mm and one "Flexible" - a column MANPADS.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Additional weapons installed at the request of the customer:
• 1 SAM “Shtil-1 ″ with 2 modular launchers 3S90E.1

Installation is not possible - the Navy ordered Project 22160 without a nose compartment for the PU SAM module.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

• 1 integrated caliber-NKE missile system up to 8 anti-ship missiles

Installation is not possible due to the lack of a module.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Alexey RA

because the only module available "in hardware" for 22160 is a diving module.

Well, you are wrong!
Quite recently on VO there was an article about anti-submarine missile-torpedo in TPK together with PTS ... Or do you think that they will be sculpted for "dry cargo ships" and tankers?
And then, there was infa about what 22160 with a greater displacement will be made in Kerch. This is because both Calm and Caliber will certainly be shoved there.
Therefore, as in the song of V.S. Vysotsky:
But the captain told us calmly:
"It's not evening yet, it's not evening yet!"
AHA.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Quite recently on VO there was an article about anti-submarine missile-torpedo in TPK together with PTS ... Or do you think that they will be sculpted for "dry cargo ships" and tankers?

And where to put these PLUR in TPK? There is no nose slot. Stern - only for container launchers, which so far are only in the form of "stuffed" for exhibitions. And yes, the aft slot at 22160 is located exactly under the helipad.
The second question is who will issue the TSU for the PLUR. The regular GAS at 22160 is sharpened to combat PDSS, for PLO it is of little use. Is it possible to use the Ka-27 ... but how will the mechanism for opening the shutters of the aft slot behave after numerous landings and take-offs from the shutters?

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And then, there was infa about what 22160 with a greater displacement will be made in Kerch. This is because both Calm and Caliber will certainly be shoved there.

And we get a corvette at the price of a frigate.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Alexey RA

In theory. And in the distant future

But there is such an opportunity! If desired, they can install 3С14 and pieces 8 3М-54 or PLUR type 81Р ...
This was discussed back in 2018. But this will be the "shock version" of the patrol ...

Quote: Alexey RA

Installation not possible

You are right, as non-Russians! You are told: "At the request of the customer!" And as you know - any whim for your money. But the General Staff of the Navy decided that for now it was enough to guard the pipe!
In addition, the container version with the Minotaur has been worked out. But it is possible to get the control center from the RGABs from the "vertikhvost" ... and from the coast ... and from the plane - from the "reference" points.

As they told ... in the High Command of the Navy, the “container” GAS “Minotaur-ISPN-M.2” has been developed and is already being tested for the fleet. The station is designed to be installed on modular patrol ships of the 22160 project, as well as on auxiliary fleet ships and mobilized civilian vessels in an endangered period.

Vadim Kozyulin, PIR Center Project Director for New Technologies and International Security: "A whole series of modular ships are already being built at the Zelenodolsk shipyard, which are to be commissioned in the early 2020s; in parallel, containerized weapon systems are being developed for them."

You can believe it, you can not believe it - I didn’t invent anything myself ...

[next322]

Main characteristics
Displacement 1965 t (full)
91,3 m length (longest)
Width 14,6 m
Precipitation 4,8 m
Bulletproof booking
Two-shaft type GEM engines:
2 diesel engines 16D49 for 6000 hp
EEU: 4 Diesel Generators
1 emergency parking DG
Power 12000 hp (8800 kW) (GEM)
4 × 300 kW
1 × 100 kW
Propeller 2 fixed pitch propellers
Speed ​​22,5 knots (full)
16 knots (patrol)
6000 miles sailing range (on 16 nodes)
The autonomy of swimming 60 day
Crew 32 people + 8 additional personnel
weaponry
Navigation armament of the Pal-N navigation radar
Radar armament of the Pozitiv-MK radar
Electronic armament GAS "Ariadna"
complex REP TK-25
complex rep PK-10
Artillery 1 × 76 mm AU AK-176MA
Missile weapons 8 × MANPADS "Igla-S"
Aviation group 1 helicopter weighing up to 12 tons (Ka-27, Ka-29, Ka-52K)
and 2-4 UAVs .....................
so it will be more precise

[Lexa-149]

Everything is simple. You just need to inflate an elephant from a fly, and then grab more rewards and preferences for the heroic confrontation!

[Thrifty]

Medals, no, not even the order of the entire English crew! The title of sir to assign to all totally! Despite the floor, and even the anchors of the ship to assign this title twice! !!

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

I read the article and realized that all VO readers must be proud of the British fleet and especially the crew of the British patrol ship - I will be an obedient "fan" of the VO and I will burn up for British sailors))) otherwise some citizen or fan of the British queen will suddenly read my commentary and will make me drawbacks (and for me these disadvantages are worse than death, how can I "minus" look at the monitor ). If without sarcasm - what is the article about, what is its meaning ??? In the navy, and in other branches of the armed forces, it is always not easy ... One should be proud of victories, and not ordinary military labor ... Here Russian sailors (following the author's logic) should not be proud - ah-ya-yay !!! could not escape from the brits !!!, but it is necessary (according to the author's logic) to scold the "boatswain tongue"))) But I do not know, excuse me, not a sailor, but whether our ship ran away from the proud Englishmen or the proud Englishmen are proud that they did not lag behind from our "Vasily Bykov" going in the usual economical way ????

[koks]

No matter how our Russian Navy does not find fault .. And yet even Britain (the former naval power) is afraid of our lone (for now) warlock of the Navy! That says a lot.

[Lexa-149]

Please note, not the Navy, but the Navy!

[Popov Konstantin Ivanovich]

"Bulls came out of the fog, took the" caliber "out of my pocket, I will cut, I will beat, you are still a hungry Brit" . Are you all you want? They send the second destroyer to the Gulf with sin across the sexes, do not replenish supplies on patrol boats in a timely manner, there’s some kind of Russian Vasily from his giant professional carparativa is back. For the Britons, following the Russians returning from the holiday is already a feat. And if only ours also asked "What nada?" ... Yes, it does not work out somehow "Rule Britain, Rule the seas" there is no one to send to the seas, and even if suddenly, the Argentines "forget" and climb to the Malvins (Falklands) than this time the British will keep an answer. Although Argentina besides her tango had nothing left, but they can, just like last time, pick from the neighbors, all that God sends, it will still be more than the foggy Albionians.

[Fan-fan]

some Russian Vasily returns from his giant drinks professional carparativa

As I understand it, "Vasily Bykov" is returning to Syria after participating in the St. Petersburg parade. This means that the critics of this parade were right when they said that Putin had collected bit by bit the ships from all fleets in order to show at least something.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Popov Konstantin Ivanovich

"Bulls came out of the fog, took the" caliber "out of my pocket, I will cut, I will beat, you are still a hungry Brit"

But he has no "Caliber". And in the near future there will be no - because there is no module in the hardware.

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Alexey RA

because there is no module in the hardware

+ grinder and welder from the garage

[Alexey RA]

This is an exhibition specimen ("scarecrow"), which has been trying to sell to someone for 8 years. There are no orders for container launchers, he did not pass the state "complete with the ship".
Well, how will the situation with Polyment-Redoubt repeat itself?

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Alexey RA

... trying to sell someone

Now we’ll straighten the shovel on top of the INF Treaty and you can already do it for yourself even at sea, at least on the Russian Railways, at least on Kamaz, even openly set up, even masked as garage cooperatives.

Quote: source in the military-industrial complex

The second three patrol ships of Project 22160, being built for the Russian Navy, may receive the Kalibr strike missile system.

If you are specifically about Bykov, then, due to the modularity, the Caliber will not work on it, you need a 40-foot standard size, but I cannot see unsolvable problems to replace the diver with the same 20-foot one with the X-35.
Problems with Redoubt and Polement have been exaggerated in the media for so long without explaining the essence of these problems, that hype on this subject after their successful tests is already considered bad manners. In addition, both Caliber and X-35 are already checked up and down, checked and integrated, integrated and tested. So, put aside to be afraid!

[g1washntwn]

And after the news already from September 6, 2012 shaggy year:

The so-called missile tests of the Kh-35UE missile, launched from launchers placed in a standard Club-K complex cargo container, were successfully passed. Start was carried out on August 22 at one of the specialized training grounds.

I doubt very much that I experienced a "cardboard scarecrow". But I know for sure that iron in the Urals is up to ... a vegetable. Therefore, let me categorically doubt your thesis.

[LeonidL]

the former mistress of the seas now only carries out an honorary escort of the lightly armed Russian guard. Or maybe not a snob?

[Candidate of Military Sciences]

Launch them there a circle around some kind of radio-controlled tug. Let the hard time of these drug addicts never end.

[Cympak]

Quote: g1washntwn

If you are specifically about Bykov, then, due to the modularity, the Caliber will not work on it, you need a 40-foot standard size, but I cannot see unsolvable problems to replace the diver with the same 20-foot one with the X-35.

Right now I am throwing problems:
1. Where to place it? On deck? And there are the necessary connectors for power, mounting? Below deck How to shoot? Sashes are needed, and the helicopter lands on them, and when the sea is agitated, a decent shock load acts on these wings.
2. And what to do with a jet stream at rocket launch? Where to take her?

[Klim chugunkin]

As far as I understand, the futuristic contours of the "Bykov" are just for beauty, right? There is no question of any reduced radar visibility, otherwise how would they find it and accompany it? Or somehow differently "burned", the question is how and why?