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The Prosecutor General's Office was required to institute criminal proceedings against Stalin

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Former investigator of particularly important cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov demanded that a criminal case be instituted against Joseph Stalin. It is reported "Businessman".


The Prosecutor General's Office was required to institute criminal proceedings against Stalin


The former investigator demanded that criminal proceedings be instituted against Joseph Stalin, by submitting an application to the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee. It requires a legal assessment of the mass executions and links carried out by order of the NKVD No.00447 of 30 on July 1937 of the year "On the operation to repress former fists, criminals and other anti-Soviet elements", signed by the Soviet leader. According to Stepanov, Stalin should be considered "the organizer of the massacres, that is, the genocide of Orthodox priests and other citizens."

The Prosecutor General's Office sent the statement to Stepanova to the Ivanovo Region, but they refused to accept it, explaining that the former investigator did not provide “specific information about the circumstances indicating signs of a crime” in Stalin’s actions. Stepanov appealed this decision to the Regional Prosecutor's Office, but was also refused there.

The adoption by the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (b) of a resolution approving the NKVD order No. 00447 cannot be a sufficient basis for initiating a criminal case

- said in the decision.

Stepanov said he will seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and is ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights. According to him, the prosecutor’s office is obliged to give a legal assessment of the actions of the Soviet leader, because without her in Russia "the cult of Stalin is preserved and monuments and monuments are erected to him."

I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

- he said.

In Ukraine, in 2009, a criminal case was opened against Stalin on the fact of mass starvation, where the court pleaded guilty to the political leadership for this, but closed the criminal case because of the death of the suspects.

Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is "very important for Russia."

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities

- said Gozman.
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  1. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 8 August 2019 13: 14
    +116
    And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
    What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?
    1. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 8 August 2019 13: 19
      +101
      Stalin became again very popular among the people, and they are trying to denigrate them in every way .. And why doesn’t they raise the question about the genocide that the authorities committed with the pension reform? Why did the population grow under Stalin, but are now dying out? And for the 90s, who will be responsible?
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 8 August 2019 13: 32
        +33
        fool Indeed, each in his own way goes crazy. Stepanov is no exception. fool
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 8 August 2019 13: 43
          +45
          Quote: Egorovich
          fool Indeed, each in his own way goes crazy. Stepanov is no exception. fool
          No, dear, with his head everything is in order, but here with conscience and decency... I call it the Pusey Wright effect. Some whores promoted themselves on the basis of insulting the feelings of believers and that's it! They are now on the lips of the whole world, even Madonna came out in their defense. So does this former prosecutor (who is worse than a whore) publicizing himself on the tragic topic of Stalin’s repressions.
          1. Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna 8 August 2019 14: 36
            +41
            ... but with conscience and decency ...

            And let those who knew answer
            But suddenly they didn’t want to know
            As they waited for everything that Stalin would say
            When they did not know what to say.
            And now - talkative became:
            And the whistle from behind the hill
            With zeal the name "Stalin»
            Gruff, not remembering the good.


            Oh gentlemen you are not tired
            To slander and slander him?
            He was, and is, and will be - Stalin!
            And he will live for centuries.

            Days go by, dates fit
            The Clock of History is on -
            Leader worthy descendants
            How to honor the reward.
            Ivan Kulikov
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 8 August 2019 20: 28
              -14
              Quote: Alena Frolovna
              Days go by, dates fit
              The Clock of History is on -
              Leader worthy descendants
              How to honor the reward.
              Ivan Kulikov


              We love strong people, we love hard leaders
              We get high when they hit us on the head.
              Such is our path, otherwise it is impossible with us
              - In our blood, longing for a strong hand

              Timur Shaov
              1. bayard
                bayard 8 August 2019 22: 58
                +6
                Quote: Vadivak

                We love strong people, we love hard leaders
                We get high when they hit us on the head.
                Such is our path, otherwise it is impossible with us
                - In our blood, longing for a strong hand

                Timur Shaov

                As citizen Shaov put it self-critically. good
                And if a citizen "catches a high" when he is beaten, and the broader expression "we" is understood as a citizen's fellow tribesmen, then where does the offense at the "pogroms" and "Holocaust" come from? Stalin, who created the state of Israel and the Jewish Autonomous Region?
                After all, if a citizen of Shaov and his loved ones "yearn for a strong hand in their blood," they should erect golden monuments to the founder of their state at every crossroads of Israel and praise Yahweh that Izril still has a strong hand in power.
                As far as I know, many Israeli citizens have a portrait of Stalin in their place of honor.
              2. Proxima
                Proxima 9 August 2019 00: 10
                +7
                Quote: Vadivak
                We love strong people, we love hard leaders,
                We get high when they hit us on the head.
                Such is our path, otherwise it is impossible with us
                - We have a longing for blood strong arm

                Let Timur Shaov, at least at the end of his life, deal with his masochistic inclinations. request
              3. Dmitry Nikolaevich Fedunov
                Dmitry Nikolaevich Fedunov 9 August 2019 17: 46
                +4
                Does he want it like in "Ukraine"? wassat Yes he is classic acupuncture nepolyazets-eHesovets with Echo or with Radio Sv.lot! laughing
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 8 August 2019 14: 54
            +23
            Stepanov's demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything Stepanov does "is very important for Russia."
            Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will allow CHANGE OF THE COUNTRY and get the authorities to respect the law
            - said Gozman.
            Gozman's cynicism is simply unlimited !!!

            THESE pro-Western "guss" right-wing liberals "gozmans" are leading our country - Russia - on the way to its final geopolitical self-elimination from within, as in Ukraine.

            REFERENCE
            The Union of Right Forces (SPS) is an officially registered Russian electoral bloc and a liberal political party that existed in the Russian Federation in 1999 — 2008. During the parliamentary elections in 1999, the party funded by Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
            On December 10 of 1998, the Right Cause coalition was formed to participate in the elections, which included about 30 organizations.
            Leaders of the Union of Right Forces.
            1. Boris Nemtsov (2001-2004)
            2. Victor Nekrutenko (2004 — 2005)
            3. Nikita Belykh (2005-2008)
            4. Leonid Gozman.

            ARCHIVE photo ATP
            Nemtsov, Kiriyenko, Khakamada, Mikhail Kasyanov (?), Gaidar, Chubais.
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 8 August 2019 15: 10
              +3
              Quote: Tatiana
              Kasyanov (?)

              K. Titov, former governor of the Samara region.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 8 August 2019 15: 23
                +13
                Quote: bober1982
                Quote: Tatiana
                Kasyanov (?)

                K. Titov, former governor of the Samara region.

                Yes, you recognized him correctly - K. Titov! And then I could not make out who it was in the photo.

                Apparently, the corrupt bureaucratic "underbelly" of the Kremlin has begun to move against Putin in connection with the detection of criminal cases against snickering officials in the country. They, apparently, want to redirect from themselves and their crimes the wave of the growth of historical popular self-awareness and resentment against Stalin - so to speak, in line with the continuation of liberal decommunization in the country.
                1. bk316
                  bk316 8 August 2019 17: 22
                  +11
                  Apparently, they want to redirect from themselves and their crimes a wave of growth of historical popular consciousness and resentment towards Stalin -

                  No chance Tatyana, where are they and where is Stalin ....
                  It was as if a bug sensing that it was being crushed now, he decided to turn the arrows on God.
                  1. cradle
                    cradle 9 August 2019 02: 41
                    +1
                    so you need not even give a chance
            2. stopkran
              stopkran 8 August 2019 16: 30
              +15
              Looking at the photos of these liberals, I remembered the poem “on the death of a politician”:
              He was accompanied by a flurry of ridicule at the grave,
              Some laughed just madly.
              And only I, only I alone sobbed.
              I so dreamed of seeing him hanged.
              Healer bellock
            3. Simargl
              Simargl 8 August 2019 19: 18
              +6
              Quote: Tatiana
              Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is "very important for Russia."

              Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will allow CHANGE OF THE COUNTRY
              and get the authorities to respect the law

              - said Gozman.
              Gozman's cynicism is simply unlimited !!!
              And if the prosecutor's office takes into consideration and with special cynicism (regarding liberoids) will give a positive legal assessment of the actions of Stalin?
              Have to cancel many rehabilitation? am
            4. Lycan
              Lycan 9 August 2019 10: 11
              +3
              Quote: Tatiana
              Gozman's cynicism is simply unlimited !!!

              He (and many of the Union of Right Forces) has such a job - to sabotage his homeland.
              And now, it’s an open market, and money, as you know, doesn’t smell. And performers with suitable moral and working parameters are also on such a job (the main thing is to correctly camouflage their activities so that the Ministry of Internal Affairs does not undermine the nose).
          3. VOLCHOXURAL
            VOLCHOXURAL 8 August 2019 17: 25
            +2
            Quote: Proxima
            So is this former prosecutor.

            It seems that the article says that this pretzel is not a prosecutor, but just a trail)
          4. Labrador
            Labrador 8 August 2019 18: 10
            +2
            even Madonna came out in their defense.

            This same Madame for a long time provided her mouth with work on the eve of the US presidential election.

            But with an addiction to dig under Stepanov's nails it would be useful. You see a couple of skeletons come out of the closet and he will immediately cut the back. And then he wants to see "as in Ukraine"! Yes, for one such desire nowadays you have to shake up everything underwear and put it on a pencil!
        2. vik669
          vik669 11 August 2019 23: 30
          0
          I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed - but such an amputation cannot be treated only by amputation ...!
      2. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 8 August 2019 14: 53
        -18
        Stalin became popular among the people because of lawlessness and impunity in the country.
        But I don’t think that the supporters of Stalin’s "return" would like to live under that regime, the repressions would affect everyone.
        It is not necessary to praise Stalin, but simply ALL to restore order in the country. Not only the authorities (in any case), but everyone also needs to evaluate their actions separately.
        1. nils
          nils 8 August 2019 15: 53
          +22
          “Kum, I don’t understand ... Why, under Stalin, Korolev’s missile was engaged in missiles and not a loser journalist? But, let’s say, the talented physicist Kurchatov, and not the upstart-kinsurprise, drove the atomic project?
          And for some reason the Minister of Defense was a professional military man, and not a former builder ...
          - This tyrant was so mean about the country.
          1. bk316
            bk316 8 August 2019 17: 31
            -2
            Kurchatov, a talented physicist, steered the atomic project, and not an upstart-kinsurprise?

            Here you are wrong. Kiriyenko does not steer a nuclear project, but an office selling the results of a nuclear project. Steers quite successfully.
            1. slasha
              slasha 11 August 2019 22: 40
              0
              He does not steer, but sells. What can be understood by the word "rules", in my opinion, includes not only the sale of what was inherited from the USSR (developments, ideas, finished projects), but also the creation of a new one.
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 August 2019 17: 26
          +16
          Quote: Blacksmith 55
          We must not praise Stalin.
          Stalin became popular among the people because of lawlessness and impunity in the country.

          And do not trample Stalin into the mud!
          And you talk like another "bulk"!

          Stalin is the Great Historical Patriotic Person for our people and our country!
          1. Blacksmith 55
            Blacksmith 55 8 August 2019 19: 41
            -1
            Tatyana, you are deeply mistaken, I do not support Navalny at all.
            Stalin did a lot for the USSR, but repression ..... And in my family there were (were) innocently injured. Moreover, they were illiterate collective farmers, they turned out to be enemies of the people.
            For some reason, most people think that there was no repression, because there are a lot of books about them, and if someone condemns them, then it acts like a red rag on a bull.
            But starting a CASE for a long dead person is simply stupid.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 8 August 2019 22: 18
              +3
              Quote: Blacksmith 55
              Stalin did a lot for the USSR, but repression ..... And in my family there were (were) innocently injured. Moreover, they were illiterate collective farmers, they turned out to be enemies of the people. For some reason, most believe that there was no repression

              Learn in detail the history of your relatives and the reasons for their arrests - by whom, when, for what, as well as with whose filing and why your relatives were arrested! And much will become clear to you.

              In addition, you lose sight of the fact that Stalin in the country did not rule alone, but collectively. And while in the party there were 2 trends: Trotskyists and Stalinists.
              - Trotskyite collaborators under the flag of the world revolution essentially transferred Soviet Russia under foreign external control to the West,
              - And Stalin fought with them for the national sovereignty of our country and the building of socialism in a single country.
              And only in the 1937-38 years did the political turning point of this domestic political struggle in favor of the Stalinists take place, but not to the end. Until that time, the Trotskyist zombie liberal sabotage in the country was full, including deliberately false arrests and executions of innocently convicted citizens. The same opportunist Khrushchev had his hands up to his shoulders in blood in this regard for drawing up execution lists, which once had to be stopped by Stalin with a resolution on the execution list "Stop, you cancer!"

              And for exceeding power and for not entirely justified repressions in the country, it was under Stalin, in the end, that Trotskyist Yagoda himself and his henchman Yezhov were shot. So your, as you say, "innocently repressed relatives" were avenged by the Stalinists.
              1. Blacksmith 55
                Blacksmith 55 8 August 2019 22: 46
                0
                What circles are you talking about? Collective farmers who are not interested in politics?
                My mother told me what happened in the village, one example: there was a preparatory collective farm that wrote to the peasants, and then took advantage of the position that it was very difficult for the wives (enemies) to feed and raise their children. I hope you, as a woman, understand what kind of "help" we are talking about.
                Whether it was under Yezhov, Berry or Beria, I don’t know, it does not matter at the moment, it was, and there was another. And I do not need to prove that the Father of all nations knew nothing.
                Nicholas II did not "know" that it was hard for the people either.
                All leaders know that they have a service.
                I already wrote to you, I think it's stupid to start a case against Stalin, but this should not happen again.
                I'm not going to prove anything to you, most likely each of us will remain with our own opinion. Regards, Blacksmith.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 8 August 2019 23: 12
                  +1
                  From this collective farm chairman - a voluntarist and a scoundrel, i.e. from the popular "lower classes" - and we must first begin specifically accusations of the "upper classes"! What were the "lower classes", such were the results of the repressions.
                  Quote: smith 55
                  I do not need to prove that the Father of Nations did not hall.
                  All managers know that they have services.
                  Yes, but not all service employees honestly swear allegiance and homeland!
              2. Blacksmith 55
                Blacksmith 55 8 August 2019 23: 11
                -6
                Tatyana, read "Men and Women", in my opinion Mozhaev wrote. Read Rybakov's Children of the Arbat, about Solzhenitsyn, I don’t want to mention him.
                "Father Arseny" I do not know the author, it is about the ministers of the church.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 8 August 2019 23: 19
                  +3
                  Peter! I don't even need to read! In our family, there were also repressed, as much as 10 years in the camps! I am very much aware of how in the localities everything was really and with whom, and in what, and why there was a "stigma in fluff".
            2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
              Obi-Wan Kenobi 9 August 2019 06: 54
              -1
              It begins!
              And in my family there were (were) innocently injured. Moreover, they were illiterate collective farmers, they turned out to be enemies of the people.

              Remember:
              1. Punishment without guilt DOES NOT HAPPEN !!!
              2. Write complaints to the Hague Tribunal against: Khazar Haganate, Livonian Knights, Mongolo-Tatars, Golden Horde, Poles, Swedes, French, Cossacks, Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, White Guards (including Denikin, Wrangel, Kolchak, Ataman Shkuro and etc.), ANTANT, fascists, Americans, NATO.
              And other aggressors not mentioned by me.
              Make the world public support you!
              Let millions of caring people take a single impulse to the streets of their cities and demand that all the aforementioned villains be recognized in the genocide of your ancestors since the time of the Nativity of Christ!
              And be sure to request cash compensation !!! And then the meaning of the deed will be lost !!!
              1. Blacksmith 55
                Blacksmith 55 9 August 2019 07: 45
                0
                Obi Wan, do you really not know how to read, he wrote, it’s nonsense to start a business on a long dead person. I don’t complain about what happened, it was, the main thing is that it wouldn’t happen again. The end of the discussion.
        3. cradle
          cradle 9 August 2019 02: 43
          0
          would like to be honest people more than you think and do not measure on their own.
      3. astepanov
        astepanov 8 August 2019 15: 31
        +21
        Is it only a matter of pension reform? And the collapse of the Union? And the war in Chechnya? And the looting of state property and the accumulation of citizens? But the collapse of industry, agriculture, energy? And the destruction of the armed forces? And the rampant crime in general and corruption in particular? And the massive sale of military technology abroad? What about the HIV and drug epidemic? And the export of capital abroad? But the destruction of science, education, health? That would be for all these Yeltsins, Gaidars and other Gorbachevs to be judged. And the living, and those who cast their hooves. And then to take on Stalin - but only the lazy did not kick him, forgetting how much good was done at that time. I do not know what outweighs: the sins of Stalin or his great deeds, but the crimes that began under Gorbachev have no counterweight. So they would start with them, without waiting for the living villains to flee to the next world.
        1. Cop
          Cop 8 August 2019 18: 13
          -22
          Quote: astepanov
          ..... forgetting how much good was done at that time.
          And we must start apparently from the famine of 1921-22, continue collectivization, dispossession, industrialization, repressions of 1937-39, the deaths of more than 27 million Soviet citizens in the Second World War, and the famine of 1946-47 .g-s and finish apparently the Korean War. Here is a far from complete list of his "good" deeds .....
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 8 August 2019 18: 33
            +14
            Do you attribute industrialization to crime? Then, one must assume that the destruction of industry in the late 20th - early 21st centuries should be recognized as achievement and feat.
            This Stalin, in your opinion, unleashed the Great Patriotic War - when did all of Europe fight against the USSR? Is Stalin to blame for the deaths of about 11 million inhabitants of the occupied territories, in the rear - from bombing, in blockades - from hunger? What are you carrying? Do you have a conscience?
            1. Cop
              Cop 8 August 2019 21: 02
              -14
              Quote: astepanov
              Do you attribute industrialization to crime?
              And it depends on how to carry it out. Here is one of the points of accusation of the Hitler regime that Germany used the slave labor of prisoners of war, prisoners and forcibly removed Soviet citizens and citizens of other countries. That's when they dispossessed, their family .... their kulaks were deprived of all their property and even taken to a neighboring region, thereby forcing adult family members to go to work on the construction of a factory or factory. In other words, do this very industrialization. Aren't these two examples ... alike?
              Quote: astepanov
              Then, one must assume that the destruction of industry in the late 20th - early 21st centuries should be recognized as achievement and feat.
              Did anyone destroy it? In Vegas, in the city of Berdsk, there was a Vega software company, which produced household electronic equipment. After the collapse of the USSR, similar products of Western companies poured into the country, for example, Sony and the Vega software “died” unable to withstand competition. The same thing happened with other flagships of Soviet industry. So who destroyed her?
              Quote: astepanov
              This Stalin, in your opinion, unleashed the Great Patriotic War - when did all of Europe fight against the USSR?
              Of course, he did not untie her. He didn’t attack Poland, at least first ..... Well, he participated in the unleashing, he signed the pact.
              Quote: astepanov
              Is Stalin to blame for the deaths of about 11 million inhabitants of the occupied territories, in the rear - from bombing, in blockades - from hunger?
              And then who is to blame for the fact that the Red Army draped up to Moscow and the Volga, thereby leaving these people in the occupied territories? The country was tearing itself “riveted” of twenty thousand tanks and armored vehicles and they, under its .... wise leadership, were safely burned or abandoned in June July 1941 .....
              Quote: astepanov
              What are you carrying?
              РџСЂР ° РІРґСѓ ...
              Quote: astepanov
              Do you have a conscience?
              There is. Conscience is not among those who glorify this "best friend of all athletes" .....
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 8 August 2019 22: 10
                +3
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                1. Cop
                  Cop 9 August 2019 09: 03
                  -3
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Vega, as well as at many other enterprises, began to experience difficulties with components.
                  And who did not have them? I well remember how the same Sony had problems with VCRs assembled at a French factory.
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  I wonder how you would work if yesterday's supplier suddenly finds itself abroad and the central ministries are abolished.
                  So, after all, Sony also bought components mainly abroad. Moreover, the USSR bought some of them abroad, for example, in the "Electronics 211 stereo" tape recorder, the electric motor was Japanese, and the power amplifier was assembled on the A-310 microcircuit. Who prevented the same Vega from purchasing them directly ... and not waiting for quotas from the ministry. I did not track the collapse of Soviet industry, but I can give an example that I witnessed. Here in my village where I come from was a collective farm. He was a millionaire ...... thanks to the state agroindustry, and when it came, as one here put it, "democracy and glasnost", then its leaders took loans in the hope that, as usual, the state agroprom will repay or write off. And it was abolished, and as a result, all the collective farmers went around the world. And in the neighboring area there was another collective farm, the chairman of which optimized production, expelling all lazy people and drunks, selling unnecessary equipment, renting out unnecessary objects, such as a canteen or a recreation center. And this collective farm, now it is a joint-stock company, lives well, people work and receive wages. In the industry, I think it was the same. So who in this case is to blame in the first place?
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  And Vega finished off privatization. Nothing original.
                  She gave Vega a second chance, and those who received her controlling interest simply did not know what to do with it. Hence the result.
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Рменно те, кто Рё СЂР ° Р · СЂСѓС € РёР »РЎРЎРЎР, кто СЂР ° скрутиРенную РїСЂРёРІР ° тиР· Р ° С † РёСЋ, РєРѕРіРґР ° Р ± Р ° СЂС ‹РіРё РјРµС € РєР ° РјРё СЃРєСѓРїР ° Р» Рё РІР ° СѓС ‡ РРРРРРРР.
                  Here you are again hr ... nb some kind of carrying. The market cannot exist without hucksters, bankruptcies, defrauded pensioners, etc. I can only agree with you that it would be possible to go through the so-called. "Chinese" way of privatization. And the leaders of that Russia chose the most barbaric ...
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Yes, and even when Napoleon flooded, they would have instantly destroyed. Why aren’t you blaming Alexander 1?
                  And you write an article about ... Napoleon and I will definitely insert my "five cents" .....
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  РљСЂРёРІРѕР ± РѕРєР ° СЏ Сѓ Р'Р ° СЃ РїСЂР ° РІРґР ° ...
                  РџСЂР ° РІРґР ° РЅРµ Р ± С ‹РІР ° ет РєСЂРёРІРѕР ± РѕРєРѕР№, РѕРЅР ° РєР ° Рє Рё Р ± еременность, РёР »РёРёРё РёРёРёРёРёРёРёРёРёРЊ
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 9 August 2019 11: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: Cop
                    РўР ° Рє ведь Рё Sony РєРѕРјРїР »РµРєС‚СѓСЋС ‰ РёРµ РїРѕРєСѓРїР ° Р» Р ° РІ РѕСЃРЅРѕРІРЅРѕРј Р · Р ° РіСЂР ° РЅРёС † Рµ. Тем Р ± РѕР »РµРµ Рё РЎРЎРЎР Р · Р ° РєСѓРїР ° Р» некоторую РёС… С З Р ° сть Р · Р ° РіСЂР ° РЅРёР °РёР °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °Р °РЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРЂРёР "RR" ектроникР° 211 стерео »СЌР» ектродвигР° тель Р ± С‹ Р »СЏРїРѕРЅСЃРєРёРјј

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                    Quote: Cop
                    Кто РјРµС € Р ° Р »С‚РѕР№ же Р'еге Р · Р ° РєСѓРїР ° ть РёС ... РЅР ° РїСЂСЏРјСѓСЋ ....., Р ° РЅРµ ждР° ть РєРІРѕС ‚РѕС‚ министерствР°.

                    РЈРїСЂР ° Р · РґРЅРёР »Рё министерство, тР° можни РїРѕСЏРІРёР» РёСЃСЊ, Р ± Р ° СЂРґР ° Рє РїРѕР ».
                    Quote: Cop
                    РћРЅР ° РґР ° Р »Р ° Р'еге второй С € Р ° РЅСЃ, Р ° те кто РїРѕР» СѓС ‡ РёР »РµС 'контроР»СРРСР РСРРСР РСРРСР РІР РРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРєРІР ‚Рѕ РЅРµ Р · РЅР ° Р» Рё, С З С‚Рѕ СЃ РЅРёРј делР° ть.

                    P — PЅP ° P Р Ryo RsЅЅЅё, C ‡ то делР° ть. РљСѓРїРёРІ РѕРґРёРЅ РёР · С „Р» Р ° РіРјР ° РЅРѕРІ СЂР ° РґРёРѕРЫСЂРѕРјР ° РЎРЎРЎР Р · Р ° Р ± РµСЃС † еноаЀЀЀЀЀЀЀЀЀЀЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁЁРЫР Рµ РЎРѕРЅРё), СЂР ° достно РІ Р »Р ° РґРѕС € РєРё С ... Р» РѕРїР ° Р »Рё. Рљ СЃР »РѕРІСѓ, РІ 95-РѕРј РіРѕРґСѓ РґСЂСѓРі РєСѓРїРёР» Р'итяР· СЊ (телявиР· ортР° РєРѕР№), СР РЏРЏРЏР Р Р РЃРЃР CЋ. РћРєР ° Р · Р ° Р »РѕСЃСЊ, С З С‚Рѕ СЏРїРѕС € РєРё постР° РІРёР» Рё Р ± СЂР ° РєРѕРІР ° РЅРЅС ‹Рµ РєРѕРјРїР» ектуС.
                    Quote: Cop
                    Рђ руководители той Р РѕСЃСЃРёРё РІС‹ Р ± СЂР ° Р »Рё СЃР ° РјС‹ Р№ РІР ° СЂРІР ° СЂСЃРєРёР№ .....

                    RўR ° Rє RІRѕS, Roes RґRμSЏS,RμR ... "SЊRЅRѕSЃS,SЊ Ryo RЅR RґRѕ ° C ± F <SЂR ° SЃSЃRјRѕS,SЂRμS,SЊ RїSЂRѕRєSѓSЂR ° S,SѓSЂRѕR№, RЅRμ RґRѕR¶RoRґR ° SЏSЃSЊ, RїRѕRєR ° RѕRЅRo RєRѕRїS <C, R ° РѕС‚РєРёРЅСѓС ‚. RўRѕS, R¶Rμ RњRoS ° R№R ... P 'P ‡ ° RЎRμSЂRіRμRoS RґRѕ SЃRoS ... RїRѕSЂ RЅRμR ± RєRѕRїS,RoS of the PS,, PI RїRμRЅSЃRoSЋ 40 RѕRєR "P ° RґRѕRІ RїRѕR" ‡ SѓS RμS ° F,. Рђ РЅР ° СЃС ‡ РµС ‚
                    Quote: Cop
                    S ... S ... RЅSЊ

                    тР° Рє РёР · РЅР ° С З Р ° Р »СЊРЅРѕ РІР ° СѓС З РµСЂС‹ предполР° РіР ° Р» РѕСЃСЊ сделР° ть именнЋ.
                    Quote: Cop
                    Рђ Р'С ‹РЅР ° РїРёС € ите стР° тью Рѕ .... РќР ° РїРѕР» еоне

                    P © P °! P “P” P ° P · RёРє РѕРґРёРЅ Р · Р ° кройте.
                    Quote: Cop
                    РџСЂР ° РІРґР ° РЅРµ Р ± С ‹РІР ° ет РєСЂРёРІРѕР ± РѕРєРѕР№, РѕРЅР ° РєР ° Рє Рё Р ± еременность, РёР »РёРёРё РёРёРёРёРёРёРёРёРёРЊ

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                    1. Cop
                      Cop 10 August 2019 10: 44
                      -1
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Rђ R'S <RЅRμ RїSѓS,R ° R№S,Rμ RЅR ° P "P ° R¶RμRЅRЅS <Rμ RїRѕSЃS,R ° RІRєRo, SЃ S,RμRј RІSЂRμRјRμRЅRμRј, RєRѕRіRґR ° RІRґSЂSѓRі RІSЃRμ SЂSѓS ... RЅSѓR" of the PS RїRѕ SЃRіRѕRІRѕSЂSѓ PI R'RµR »РѕРІРµР¶СЃРєРѕР№ РїСѓС ‰ Рµ, Рё РІС ‡ ерР° С € РЅРёРµ смежники РѕРєР ° Р · Р ° Р» РёСЃСЊ Р · Р ° РєРјРѕР.
                      Laws: “On a small state-owned enterprise, On cooperation, On individual labor activity” were adopted back in 1987. What prevented Vega’s leadership from using these laws to create a network of “daughters” and “one-day” companies for the purchase of everything necessary for the production and sale of their products at the market price? After all, there is a good example, this is a VAZ. Remember the LOGOVAZ company? Indeed ... foresighted people worked. But Vega’s leadership was simply not capable of it .....
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      РЈРїСЂР ° Р · РґРЅРёР »Рё министерство, тР° можни РїРѕСЏРІРёР» РёСЃСЊ, Р ± Р ° СЂРґР ° Рє РїРѕР ».
                      But they were given complete freedom of foreign economic activity. Why not Vega with the same Sony to create a joint venture?
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      They knew what to do. Having bought one of the flagships of the USSR radio industry for a song, they sold everything,
                      So you yourself answered your question, if these "red" directors did not know how to work in the new conditions, and some did not want to.
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      .... competitors (the same Sonya), clapping their hands joyfully.
                      It’s a child’s statement ..... This is a market, some people sell their products at a loss to “drown” a competitor.
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      By the way, in the 95th year, a friend bought Vityaz (such a TV viewer), he broke in a week. It turned out that the Japs put defective components.
                      This is what you are for? There were few similar problems with the same Sony. I have already given you an example with her French factory.
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      So, their activity should be considered by the prosecutor's office, without waiting until they hoofs are thrown back. The same Mikhaila Sergeyitch still smokes the sky, receives a pension of 40 salaries.
                      And what can you incriminate him? Here, Yeltsin can be charged with an article for treason against the Motherland for signing the “Bialowieza Agreements”, then “MS” simply has nothing ....
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      .... so initially it was supposed to make vouchers registered.
                      Quite right, but then they realized that it was such a “hemorrhagic" upon renewal and refused.
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Close one eye.
                      Why so? Do not pay? Or were my "five cents" scared? laughing
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      In the aggregate of all factors, the pros in Stalin’s rule outweigh the minuses. IMHO.
                      And you watch the movie "Russia that we lost" and, and then compare with the one that we acquired, thanks to t-chu Dzhugashvilli .....
              2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
                Obi-Wan Kenobi 9 August 2019 07: 02
                -1
                This Stalin, in your opinion, unleashed the Great Patriotic War - when did all of Europe fight against the USSR?
                Of course, he did not untie her. He didn’t attack Poland, at least first ..... Well, he participated in the unleashing, he signed the pact.

                The main thing you do not worry. Somehow calmer, perhaps ...
                The day will come and the NKVD (GPU) will come for you !!! There you will tell everything in detail.
                "Comrade, know! It will pass
                Both democracy and publicity.
                And then state security
                Will remember our names! "
                1. Cop
                  Cop 9 August 2019 09: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

                  "Comrade, know! It will pass
                  Both democracy and publicity.
                  And then state security
                  Will remember our names! "[/ I]
                  This is hardly the time when:
                  Today is a holiday for the guys
                  Jubilant Pioneer!
                  Today I came to visit us
                  Lavrenty Pavlych Beria!
                  will never come back .....
          2. cradle
            cradle 9 August 2019 02: 45
            +1
            you have a talking nickname. What are you littering about?
            1. Cop
              Cop 9 August 2019 09: 11
              -2
              Quote: besik
              you have a talking nickname. What are you littering about?
              Have you tried to change the transcription?
              1. Fikys
                Fikys 9 August 2019 12: 53
                -1
                Quote: Cop
                Quote: besik
                you have a talking nickname. What are you littering about?
                Have you tried to change the transcription?

                What for?! So much more correct.
                Quote: Cop
                РџСЂР ° РІРґР ° РЅРµ Р ± С ‹РІР ° ет РєСЂРёРІРѕР ± РѕРєРѕР№, РѕРЅР ° РєР ° Рє Рё Р ± еременность, РёР »РёРёРё РёРёРёРёРёРёРёРёРёРЊ

                Wrong. Everyone has their own truth, but the truth is one and indisputable. If you want to know the truth, first of all look at the result. The result of Stalin’s reign is absolutely unambiguous and undeniable: the country did not have such a breakthrough in its entire long history, even under Peter, and this is Truth, unlike your personal truth.
                The family of my grandmother was repressed in Ukraine for "prosperity" and moved to the Far East. In the 90s, she once said: "What a pity that Stalin is not here now." These words of hers mean immeasurably more to me than your opinion and those like you.
                1. Cop
                  Cop 10 August 2019 11: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Fikys
                  What for?! So much more correct.
                  So is it true or .... true?
                  Quote: Fikys
                  Wrong. Everyone has their own truth, but the truth is one and indisputable.
                  Just as true. After all, everyone also has their own pregnancy, one (th) .... has a miscarriage, and the other triple ...
                  Quote: Fikys
                  If you want to know the truth, first of all look at the result. The result of the rule of Stalin is completely unambiguous and undeniable ...
                  That’s for sure ..... fifty million ruined lives, first of all, Russian is really the result ....
                  Quote: Fikys
                  the country has not had such a breakthrough in development over its entire long history, even under Peter
                  Are you serious now? Would you even compare how much land Peter the Great grew and how much Comrade Dzhugashvilli lost ....
                  Quote: Fikys
                  The family of my grandmother was repressed in Ukraine for "prosperity" and moved to the Far East. In the 90s, she once said: "What a pity that Stalin is not here now." These words of hers mean immeasurably more to me than your opinion and those like you.
                  Yes ...., you don’t even feel sorry for your own grandmother, which Comrade Dzhugashvilli repressed only because she worked well in her land ... This is your ..... truth, Pavlik Morozov .... .
                  1. Fikys
                    Fikys 10 August 2019 12: 07
                    0
                    Yeah. It is rare to see such an outstanding set of alogisms, historical illiteracy and inability to understand what has been read. Engage in sophistry alone, I have more interesting things to do.
                    1. Cop
                      Cop 10 August 2019 13: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Fikys
                      Yeah. It is rare to see such an outstanding set of alogisms, historical illiteracy and inability to understand what has been read.
                      Well, what are you, I specifically tell you - compare the pier, you yourself will understand everything .... and you ..... laughing
                      Quote: Fikys
                      ...... I have more interesting things to do.
                      This immediately reminded me: d --- k. That's where you come from, apparently graduated .... Russian school, not Soviet ....
          3. slasha
            slasha 11 August 2019 22: 57
            0
            Hunger 21-22 - whose merit? Maybe the "partners" should be asked? Not only did they arm and equip the White Guards, they also robbed them not badly during the democratic intervention. Here's an example of an alliance.
            Collectivization? But could the country survive without it, without a system of collecting and distributing food during the war with the European Union (3 Reich)?
            Death from above, as you write, 27 million citizens of the USSR is also not clear - apparently Stalin's fault. But how - did not make Moscow, Leningrad, etc., etc., open cities, like Paris! Don't you know that Adolf came to our land to DESTROY THE WHOLE POPULATION of the country? You do not know that you, according to the racial theory, are an untermensch, and are subject to destruction, and the Bavarian with sausages is only for racially high-grade "masters". And your place is in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
            Yes, you, Hauptmann, apparently not worth explaining. This is not yours ...
            1. Cop
              Cop 24 August 2019 17: 19
              -2
              Quote: slasha
              Hunger 21-22 - whose merit? Maybe the "partners" should be asked?
              Yes incl. and t-cha Dzhugashvilli. After all, he supported the policy of "war communism". Namely, she led to hunger. What partners should I ask? Maybe those who sealed the car?
              Quote: slasha
              Not only did they arm and equip the White Guards, they also robbed not badly during the democratic intervention.
              So they recognized the Kolchak government as legal, and therefore helped. When the power of the Bolsheviks was recognized as legitimate, they began to cooperate with them. So on their part, everything is legal. And about robbery? And who released the Czechoslovakians with the loot in exchange for most of Kolchak's gold? Could Coba be against it?
              Quote: slasha
              Collectivization? But could the country survive without it, without a system of collecting and distributing food during the war with the European Union (3 Reich)?
              But the king-father somehow stood up and managed without nearly eight million who died of hunger. Sorry, but the 3th Reich on the second front against whom he fought, do not remember? Is it not with the part, as you put it in the European Union?
              Quote: slasha
              The death from above, as you write, of the 27-million citizens of the USSR is also not clear - apparently the fault of Stalin.
              Well, whose fault? The whole country was tearing apart its veins, preparing for war, almost 20 thousands of tanks and armored vehicles were “riveted”. And how the war began .... why didn’t they go ... ".. .. rattling fire, sparkling with the brilliance of steel ..."?
              Quote: slasha
              But how - did not make Moscow, Leningrad, etc., etc. open cities like Paris!
              Or maybe it was just not necessary to bring Leningrad to a blockade? Well .... the wise comrade Dzhugashvilli didn’t think about such an opportunity .... or didn’t he turn to Adolf Aloizovich with a proposal to organize a humanitarian corridor for the civilian population to leave. Now that would be a plus for him. Or maybe he just didn’t give a damn about the people dying of hunger in Leningrad?
              Quote: slasha
              And you do not know that Adolf came to our land to DESTROY the entire population of the country?
              Well, why did Adolf come to our land, I know from his book .. "Mein Kampf" is called, did not read? I advise .....
              Quote: slasha
              ..... in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
              Have you been there? So I was there in the distant 1987 year, I remember well these rooms in which people to be destroyed were undressed before allegedly washing .... So they are completely filled with clothes, shoes and other personal belongings of the unfortunate. And what a smell there ..... And some things there belonged to citizens of the USSR. So doesn’t Comrade Dzhugashvilli bear his share of responsibility for the fact that they were there?
              Quote: slasha
              Yes, you, Hauptmann, apparently not worth explaining. This is not yours ...
              So after all, you, l-nt state security, are also not worth explaining anything. After all, it’s yours to lose 27 millions, the citizens of your own country, and only then .... "exhaust" two million foreign citizens. And mine - it’s not a lot of blood, but on someone else’s territory, and not even two, but rather 22, all the more it would only benefit the Aryan nation .....
      4. avdkrd
        avdkrd 8 August 2019 15: 51
        +26
        I completely agree. It is more logical to demand criminal proceedings against the living and prosperous:
        1. Gorbachev. A country that has collapsed in spite of the results of the All-Union referendum, which reduced the country's defense capability to an alarming minimum .....
        2. Yeltsin - skip because dead
        3. Chubais is the ideologist and implementer of the privatization program. Openly (on TV) declaring that privatization was a fraud and pursued one single goal - to transfer state property into private hands, in order to exclude the preconditions for the revival of socialism. Thief of All Russia. A participant in the genocide of the Russian population in the 90s, cynically declaring that the death of 10-20 million people who did not "fit" into the market is quite a normal payment for the transition to capitalism ...
      5. Cop
        Cop 8 August 2019 18: 00
        +2
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        Why did the population grow under Stalin, but are now dying out?
        Because under Stalin they produced the “Product T-26”, and not “Rubber Product No. 2” .......
        1. cradle
          cradle 9 August 2019 02: 46
          0
          what nonsense !!!
          1. Cop
            Cop 9 August 2019 09: 13
            -1
            Quote: besik
            what nonsense !!!
            What? In what was the first and there was no second? laughing
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        3. Fikys
          Fikys 9 August 2019 12: 36
          -1
          Quote: Cop
          Because under Stalin they produced the “Product T-26”, and not “Rubber Product No. 2

          And they did it right!
          1. Cop
            Cop 10 August 2019 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Fikys
            And they did it right!
            Well then, if you follow your logic, then they were “riveted” so that they would burn out or be thrown by their crews in the summer of the 41st .... laughing
            1. Fikys
              Fikys 10 August 2019 12: 02
              0
              If these tanks had not burned down in the summer of the 41st, there would have been no victory in the spring of the 45th. How can this not be understood, I don’t know, I know only one thing - if tomorrow they attack Russia, you will definitely not be among its defenders.
              1. Cop
                Cop 10 August 2019 13: 14
                0
                Quote: Fikys
                If these tanks had not burned down in the summer of the 41st, there would have been no victory in the spring of the 45th. How can you not understand this ...
                You are right, I don’t understand .... How could such a number of Soviet tanks not cope with such a small number of German ones. Yes, if they were simply buried along the roads in Belarus, where there were almost no roads at that time, then both German tank groups would have remained in the Belarusian forests ..... Read Mikhailovsky's book "The Thunderstorm Against Barbarossa", in it is written how it was necessary to fight ...
                Quote: Fikys
                .... I do not know, I only know one thing - if tomorrow they attack Russia, you will definitely not be among its defenders.
                Well, firstly, Russia has already been captured for a long time and something I don’t see you among its defenders, and secondly, my not love for Comrade Dzhugashvilli does not mean that I am not a particle of the Russian world with all the ensuing consequences .
                1. slasha
                  slasha 11 August 2019 23: 09
                  0
                  Read Mikhailovsky's book "The Thunderstorm Against Barbarossa", it says how to fight ...

                  Well, Mikhailovsky is a great strategist! Every gopher in the field is an agronomist!
                  How was the chief of the General Staff, the greatest "Marshal of Victory" unable to organize the country's defense? And this is a professional soldier! But Comrade Stalin could. In the shortest possible time, he created both the GKO and the Headquarters, organized (Beria did a lot - he did a lot for the country during the war) the evacuation of industry to the east. And the professional military professionally ruined the cadre army, retreating to Moscow and Stalingrad, until the same Stalin issued Order No. 227. If it weren't for him, perhaps the war would have ended in the Urals, and not in Berlin.
                  1. Cop
                    Cop 24 August 2019 17: 44
                    -1
                    Quote: slasha
                    Well, Mikhailovsky is a great strategist! Every gopher in the field is an agronomist!
                    And what is wrong with this book?
                    Quote: slasha
                    But Comrade Stalin - could. Created in the shortest possible time both GKO and Stavka, organized (Beria did a lot - did a lot for the country during the war), the evacuation of industry to the east.
                    If Comrade Dzhugashvilli is so .... wise, why didn’t he play 22.06.41 in 12.00? Evil tongues claim that he was .... incapable of speaking. GKO was formed on June 30 on June 1941 by a joint decision of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.), And not personally by comrade Jugashvilli.
                    Quote: slasha
                    And the professional military professionally ruined the personnel army, retreating to Moscow and Stalingrad, until the very same Stalin issued Order No. 227. Were it not for him, perhaps the war would end in the Urals, and not in Berlin.
                    And who taught these professional military men, put them on posts, awarded, trusted? One famous man of the tale that they say victory is on the side of large battalions. So near Stalingrad our battalions were more German. And order No. 227 did not help much .....
                    1. slasha
                      slasha 24 August 2019 21: 36
                      0
                      Evil tongues claim that he was .... incapable of speaking.

                      Right! Evil tongues still claimed that he led the troops around the globe!
                      If you look at the so-called. "visit log" of his Kremlin office, then evil tongues stick themselves in, you know where.
                      And who taught these professional military men, put them on posts, awarded, trusted?
                      I suspect that he taught, educated, rewarded and nominated a direct commander (chief), sometimes higher, up to the chief of the General Staff (by the way, the so-called Victory Marshal G.K. Zhukov) and the People’s Commissar of Defense.
                      Or is it ALL only Stalin? Then, according to your logic, it will turn out, as in the saying: "the cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault!"
                      1. Cop
                        Cop 25 August 2019 12: 47
                        0
                        Quote: slasha
                        Right! Evil tongues still claimed that he led the troops around the globe!
                        Well, as he led the troops, now, in my opinion, they even study in Russian schools. And for your study I can recommend the book by Alexei Isaev "Boilers of the 41st" ....
                        Quote: slasha
                        If you look at the so-called. "visit log" of his Kremlin office, then evil tongues stick themselves in, you know where.
                        I think that he didn’t even hear what visitors told him that day. He was so bad because of the realization that Aloizovich divorced him as the last sucker ....
                        Quote: slasha
                        I suspect that he taught, educated, rewarded and nominated a direct commander (chief), sometimes higher, up to the chief of the General Staff (by the way, the so-called Victory Marshal G.K. Zhukov) and the People’s Commissar of Defense.
                        You understand correctly. And who is the generalissimo subordinate? That's right: the chief of the general staff, the people's commissar of defense ..... Do you remember the name of the generalissimo?
                        Quote: slasha
                        Or is it ALL only Stalin? Then, according to your logic, it will turn out, as in the saying: "the cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault!"
                        Listen, well, you at least watch TV, I recommend the program “Moscow. Kremlin. Putin. " In one of the programs, Mr. Putin specifically for people like you said that the president of the country is responsible for everything that happens in the country, including and for .... kittens .. From books I can advise you to read a book about your idol, called "Crane of any measure." You look nonsense will write less. And then reading your ..... thoughts, I think, do you understand the difference between PPS and PPS .....?
                      2. slasha
                        slasha 26 August 2019 12: 58
                        0
                        I realized that you can think. This is already good.
                        In response to your advice, I dare, in turn, advise you to Read the books of Elena Prudnikova .. Not so that you change your mind about Stalin, but as an extension of your horizons. You can also read the works of A.B Martirosyan. Only his syllable is heavy. And I highly recommend not reading the fabrications of liars and traitors, such as Solzhenitsyn and Rezun.
                        I can assume that you will be noticeably less voiced nonsense and libel of the times of Khrushchev or Gorbachev.
                        ps And at the expense of the difference, then I know this not from sofa thoughts, but from life. I had to find out.
                      3. Cop
                        Cop 28 August 2019 12: 30
                        0
                        Quote: slasha
                        I realized that you can think. This is already good.
                        You would at least decide whether I can think or just talk nonsense .....
                        Quote: slasha
                        ..... advise you to read the books of Elena Prudnikova ..
                        This is the one who stated in the documentary “The Kremlin Demon” that the “Khrushchevs” were supposedly not Khrushchev’s inventions, and they were invented by Lavrenty Pavlovich back in 1943, and the “bald corn-maker” brazenly stole the know-how of Lavrenty Pavlovich? However, what are your sources ....
                        Quote: slasha
                        You can also read the works of A.B Martirosyan. Only his syllable is heavy.
                        Would you still advise me to read Verkhoturov's book: “Putin Learn from Stalin” ...
                        Quote: slasha
                        And I highly recommend not reading the fabrications of liars and traitors, such as Solzhenitsyn and Rezun.
                        And who did Solzhenitsyn betray?
                        Quote: slasha
                        ps And at the expense of the difference, then I know this not from sofa thoughts, but from life. I had to find out.
                        How is that? The first was held in hands, and the second ..... used? What, however, is your “moral character” .....
                        Py Sy.You would have to train Stanislav materiel, and only then .... for the Motherland, for Stalin.
      6. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 11 August 2019 20: 24
        +1
        Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions: - he had the right and acted! I would like to emphasize that I also had a moral right .... After all, if you restore order now and you don’t have to turn it around!
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 8 August 2019 13: 19
      +27
      Former Investigator for Particularly Important Cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov
      - I decided to promote, I’m probably going to politics, or a criminal case for past affairs looms! request Apparently, I could not become famous for good (criminal) deeds! hi
      PS, it’s right to say the former investigator of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation!
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 8 August 2019 13: 32
        +23
        Is there anything to do with this stuff?
        "on especially important matters" .. Well, so do what is IMPORTANT !!
        I’d better investigate where Gundyaev’s rolexes come from, for example ..

        Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

        In 2014, in connection with the sanctions imposed against Rosneft, Sechin asked the Russian government for a loan of 1,5 trillion rubles. The money was taken from the National Wealth Fund to buy out new bonds of Rosneft. The company’s 1,5 trillion rubles requested by the company is greater than the total state expenditures on healthcare, education and housing and communal services in 2014. In 2016, the attention of the media was attracted by the huge house of Igor Sechin in Barvikha worth about 3,8 billion rubles. The area of ​​the site is 32 sq. M. The newspaper Vedomosti wrote about the house, with which Sechin did not agree. The official won the trial and managed to destroy the entire circulation of Vedomosti with allegedly false information.


        There is no end to the work, but they want the only normal ruler from the grave ..
        1. Fkjydjckfrgh
          Fkjydjckfrgh 8 August 2019 14: 05
          +6
          Quote: Roman070280
          Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

          Did you mean this?





          Well, well
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 8 August 2019 14: 09
            +2
            By the way, I first saw this photo .. that kisses the navel ..))
            From our neighbors I periodically heard a banter, but did not think that everything was really so moronic there !!
            Maybe he could heal him from what disease he wanted ??)
        2. stay sharp
          stay sharp 8 August 2019 16: 20
          -1
          Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

          Do you really think that he is not in the know?)
        3. Cop
          Cop 8 August 2019 18: 16
          -3
          Quote: Roman070280
          Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..
          Do you think he is not in the know?
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 8 August 2019 16: 21
        +1
        Quote: neri73-r
        - decided to promote, probably got together in politics,

        This is not the first lawsuit filed by Igor Stepanov against the FSB and high-ranking Russian officials. In the spring of 2016, he filed a complaint with the FSB with a demand to explain on the basis of which order in 2008 he, along with his colleagues in the UK, was sent to South Ossetia. Igor Stepanov specified that this happened shortly after, on August 10, 2008, Dmitry Medvedev, who was then president of Russia, instructed the Investigative Committee under the Prosecutor's Office "to document the crimes in South Ossetia for the criminal prosecution of those responsible." The Moscow Meshchansky Court dismissed Stepanov's claim.

        In the spring of 2018, Igor Stepanov filed a lawsuit against Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. In his opinion, the officials do not correspond to their positions, since in 2016 they were nominated as candidates for deputies at the head of the list of United Russia, but after the party won the elections, they refused their mandates.

        This is his LIFESTYLE wassat Looks like he still worked in the prosecutor's office - in 2016 he is filing a lawsuit for the events of 2008. In 2018, a lawsuit for 2016 - or so dumb, it's too late negative comes
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 8 August 2019 13: 21
      +21
      Maybe his ancestors-Bandera from Stalin suffered, and Svidomo relatives in / in Ukraine carries out decommunization. And he feeds himself from some sort of Yankees NGO.

      I want to, like in Ukraineso that Stalin’s crime is confirmed

      - he said.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 8 August 2019 13: 33
        +21
        And still it is necessary to condemn Ivan the Terrible and put his relics in prison for "life"! wassat
        1. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 8 August 2019 13: 55
          +7
          Quote: bessmertniy
          condemn Ivan the Terrible

          And, of course, against Mamai, Batu and Genghis Khan! am
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 8 August 2019 16: 31
        +4
        Quote: Piramidon
        Maybe his ancestors-Bandera

        Descendant of repressed priests, former employee of Russian investigative bodies Igor Stepanov
        In other sources, there is already a whole platoon of "victims"
        According to Igor Stepanov, at least 20 people became victims of the repressive state machine in Soviet times only in his family

        Like ours, the Soviet-Russian fosterling. Probably in the pioneers / Komsomol members / communists he went as a "victim" from the Reds. am For this, he got a job in the punitive bodies - "lover of truth" negative
      3. cradle
        cradle 9 August 2019 02: 51
        0
        so send it there and dreams will come true
    4. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 8 August 2019 13: 49
      +11
      Yes, none of this "Igor Stepanov" and I would never know
      In the name of the great comrade IV Stalin, PR is a trifle
      1. tomket
        tomket 8 August 2019 15: 58
        0
        Quote: Siberia 75
        Yes, no one this "Igor Stepanov" and would never know
        In the name of the great comrade IV Stalin, PR is a trifle

        I personally do not understand, is this another mentally ill crawled out? The meaning of this statement?
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 8 August 2019 13: 55
      +6
      Quote: pafegosoff
      And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
      What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

      The banker robbed his bank for 100 lard and ruined his bank for 3 years. It turns out he was mistaken in doing business, repented, provided assistance to the investigation. Autoexpert handed down his conclusions on documents falsified by car owners and traffic cops, traffic cops and car owners escaped with fright, the expert was 5 years old (!), The court did not look at two young children. and what is the expert to blame? The surgeon operated, on the 3rd day of the patient’s stomach bleeding, he died. The surgeon is 2.5 years in prison. And if a patient drank his whole life and mocked his body and as a result the body could not stand it, what is the surgeon's fault? In order to divert attention from the robbers and traitors, here you have the affairs of pest doctors, now Stalin is to blame for everything. But I naively thought that Chubais was to blame. No, Stalin and doctors are wreckers. The main thing is that people would not think deeper why we live so poorly, where are our penalties. You involuntarily think ...
      1. your1970
        your1970 8 August 2019 15: 18
        +1
        Quote: Balu
        Autoexpert handed down his conclusions on documents falsified by car owners and traffic cops, traffic cops and car owners escaped with fear, an expert 5 years (!)The court did not look at two young children. and what is the expert to blame?
        i.e. he second part?

        "RF Criminal Code Article 307. Knowingly false testimony, expert opinion, specialist or incorrect translation
        1. A knowingly false testimony of a witness, a victim, or the conclusion or testimony of an expert, a specialist's testimony, as well as knowingly improper translation in court or in the course of a preliminary investigation -
        shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to eighty thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of up to six months, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to four hundred and eighty hours, or by correctional labor for a term of up to two years, or by arrest for a term of up to three months.
        2. The same acts connected with accusing a person of a grave or especially grave crime, -
        shall be punished by forced labor for a term up to five years or imprisonment for the same period. "
        Apparently an expert greatly wandered - if the court gave a maximum of 5 years and did not take into account the first attraction, good characteristics and children?
        but about "falsified" - he gets money for this and MUST distinguishes truth from lies.
        He is an EXPERT, but not blah blah and is responsible (including criminal) for its conclusion
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 8 August 2019 15: 29
          -2
          Quote: your1970
          about the "falsified" - he gets money for this and is OBLIGED to distinguish the truth from the lie.
          He is an EXPERT, not blah blah and is responsible (including criminal) for his

          The fact of the matter is that he bore responsibility, and the traffic cops who drew up fake protocols and car owners did not suffer any punishment. Those. the last one turned out to be an expert who was misled by the presented documents. The qualifications of all these lawyers - judges, prosecutors and the rest of the public depend on the number of indictments - that's the whole truth of life. And the second truth of life is that what they say from above will be so. An example is the Moscow banker "who made mistakes in doing business." We will soon have a trial on one more such, who spent the whole investigation under house arrest. They are also preparing publicity: I made a mistake when doing business. There is no bank, but he was simply mistaken, "do not nightmare business" ....
          1. your1970
            your1970 8 August 2019 15: 39
            +1
            Quote: Balu
            traffic cops who made up the fake protocols and car owners did not suffer any punishment.
            -
            It bothers me that - the court gave 5 years (to the maximum) - that is, the conclusion knowingly fake. So there were some sort of disassembly as a result of which fake came out. After that, traffic cops and car owners didn’t get any sideways? Oh, vague doubts torment me

            By the way, I know firsthand - "there are no direct instructions, orders, plans and other things to the maximum of indictments." Moreover, they fight much more for canceled ones, that is. since no one knows in advance they will appeal and to what level they will reach - just like that ("As much as possible !!") no one hands out accusations
            It’s just that justice (according to the law) and justice (according to human concepts) do not always converge at one point, oh not always ...
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 8 August 2019 15: 49
              -1
              The fact of the matter is, since they have initiated "there would be a man, but for what they will always find". Do you know where the expression "absolution" came from?
              On Yom Kippur, a sacrificial cattle was brought to the Jerusalem Temple: a ram for a burnt offering, a calf and two goats (Lev. 16). The high priest threw lots and, at his choice, the first of the goats was sacrificed along with the calf (for the sins of the priest and the people), they consecrated the tabernacle with their blood, and the carcasses were later carried out and burned outside the camp; and on the second goat the high priest symbolically laid the sins of the entire Jewish people and led him into the wilderness (Lev. 16: 20-22). After that, the priest and the people who burned the “unclean” calf and goat, and took the second goat to the desert, washed and washed their clothes (Lev. 16: 23–28). Hence the scapegoat.

              As we see in practice, the scapegoat was driven out into the wilderness, putting all sins on perdition, and everyone washed themselves.
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    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 8 August 2019 14: 09
      +6
      Quote: pafegosoff
      And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
      What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

      Decided to become famous?
      Stepanov said he will seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and is ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights

      Well, it’s clear with us, is it tearing into the leaders or something ?!
      And in Europe he doesn’t want to become famous by charging the organizers of Bartholomew’s Night:
      The Duke Heinrich de Guise and Catherine de Medici are considered the main organizers of the Bartholomew night.
      Source: https://mirfrance.ru/varfolomeevskaya-noch/

      There he would have found more supporters than in Russia against Stalin!
    7. Pravodel
      Pravodel 8 August 2019 14: 48
      +6
      Yes, to rehabilitate Mazepa, to recognize Grishka Otrepiev as the illegally killed tsar of the Russian kingdom, to abolish the victory over the Swedes near Poltava and acknowledge Russia's defeat there, repent for the defeat of the Germans and Swedes on Lake Peipsi A. Nevsky. The defense of Sevastopol in the 19th century. recognize as not correct and surrender to the French, British and Turks. The Poles invasion of Russia in the 16th century. acknowledge as our deep mistake, invite the Poles illegally expelled from the Kremlin to the Kremlin, let them sit. Yes, you can’t forget about Napoleon. Well, after all, Moscow was burnt to the French by the fire. It was necessary to invite Napoleon to Moscow, drink a bitter thing with him and calm down on this ... That is a wonderful prospect ... Whoever wants to, can add a lot more.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 August 2019 15: 09
        +6
        Quote: The Truth
        Who wants to, can still add a lot.

        So the retired democrats will reach the rehabilitation of the Third Reich.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 8 August 2019 20: 23
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          So the retired democrats will reach the rehabilitation of the Third Reich.

          With the current rampant democracy, political correctness, gender equality and other things, this prediction is short-lived, we can still survive!
      2. tomket
        tomket 8 August 2019 16: 02
        +1
        Quote: The Truth
        to recognize Grishka Otrepiev illegally killed as the king of the Russian kingdom,

        On
        Otrepyev had already started the topic that he was in fact a terribly progressive ruler, a real democrat, and in general the best thing happened to Russia. If not for the stupid Moscow that had killed him, then Mars and Saturn would have already colonized.
    8. Basil50
      Basil50 8 August 2019 14: 48
      +9
      pofegosov
      It turns out that in RUSSIA there are followers of unforgettable goebels.
      But this character, crawled out of the bowels of the prosecutor’s office, shows the very quality of this very prosecutor’s office.
      I do not believe in his honesty and professionalism or in the honesty and professionalism of his associates in * law enforcement agencies *. I do not believe!
    9. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 August 2019 15: 05
      +4
      We must be consistent Mr. Stepanov, first you need to institute criminal proceedings against Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich who banned and punished representatives of the Old Believer Church. (Better go to / to Ukraine, you have fellow believers there).
    10. tomket
      tomket 8 August 2019 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: pafegosoff
      And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ..

      The mentally ill liberals have a list of claims: Ivan the Terrible for massive repressions and genocide of the Crimean Tatars, Prince Vladimir, for baptism "with fire and sword", Alexander Nevsky for colobractionism, Svyatoslav for the Khazar genocide, Monomakh for the genocide of the Pechenegs or Polovtsians, Ivan the Third for the Tatar genocide -Mongol, Rurik for the genocide of various Vikings (as proof, they will cite M. Semenova's book "The Sword of the Dead", where Lodbrok Leather States (the same one from the series "Vikings") ripped off hot pies from Rurik), Prince Oleg and Prince Igor for genocide Byzantines, Dmitry Donskoy for the genocide of the Mongol-Tatars, Alexander I for the genocide of the French, Alexander II for the genocide of the Turks, Nicholas I in general for the genocide of Europeans (especially the British, but it’s impossible), Brezhnev for the genocide of Afghans, Khrushchev for the mother of Kuzkin ... And only Nikolai II and Mikhail Gorbachev are great.
    11. bk316
      bk316 8 August 2019 17: 19
      +4
      What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

      Yes, exactly, but are you all surprised?
      This is surprising only one thing that Hitler’s case is promoted by, for example, the Jew Gozman ....
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 8 August 2019 22: 09
        0
        Quote: bk316
        promotes for example a Jew Gozman ....

        Well, right not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    12. Shelest2000
      Shelest2000 8 August 2019 17: 51
      +6
      Something like that. Try very hard.
    13. cradle
      cradle 9 August 2019 02: 29
      0
      drip deeper - against Ivan the Terrible and all to the Volga region to carry. However, the totalitarian was Ryzhim.
    14. Vend
      Vend 12 August 2019 10: 46
      0
      That's a strange trend. Former Western Officials Becoming Sight, And Russian Former Officials Fall Into Marasmus laughing
  2. bubalik
    bubalik 8 August 2019 13: 14
    +18
    ,, These investigators on especially important cases of the General Prosecutor’s Office would be so zealously engaged in modern affairs.
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 8 August 2019 13: 16
      +13
      Quote: bubalik
      ,, These investigators on especially important cases of the General Prosecutor’s Office would be so zealously engaged in modern affairs.

      He is a former. He wants not to be forgotten about him. Now it is called "hypanut".
      1. Andrei Gurov
        Andrei Gurov 8 August 2019 13: 45
        +10
        Let the current investigators carefully study his former activities, I think there is a lot that can be found to excite. As the investigators themselves say, "there are no innocent people, there are our shortcomings." And the lover of Ukraine will go to Kolyma, beloved by Stalin.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 8 August 2019 13: 56
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        Quote: bubalik
        ,, These investigators on especially important cases of the General Prosecutor’s Office would be so zealously engaged in modern affairs.

        He is a former. He wants not to be forgotten about him. Now it is called "hypanut".

        or paid
      3. tomket
        tomket 8 August 2019 16: 06
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        He is a former. He wants not to be forgotten about him. Now it is called "hypanut".

        Well, he wanted to hype, but what’s the benefit to him? How does he monetize this hype? He is not a scribbler who sells books or writes articles. He doesn’t seem to be a deputy who decided to raise his rating in bulk and to enter the Duma at their expense. There is either an acute mental disorder (Stalin digs potatoes from him in the garden, drinks milk with sour cream in the refrigerator), or fulfills someone's order.
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  3. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 8 August 2019 13: 14
    +12
    The generation of bloggers raises their heads. After Stalin, they will swing at everything that is connected with the USSR, including territories.
    1. Yu-81
      Yu-81 8 August 2019 14: 27
      +3
      They have long been to the whole of the USSR, not just swinging it, but throwing out billions of cubic meters of feces.
  4. armata_armata
    armata_armata 8 August 2019 13: 16
    +7
    Former investigator of particularly important cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov demanded a criminal case against Joseph Stalin

    I want, as in Ukraine

    Yes, we will fight corruption and the arbitrariness of officials for a long time ...
    ps Let me give advice to the trail, if you want both in Ukraine, go to Ukraine and march there with Natsiks, but there’s nothing to arrange
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 8 August 2019 13: 16
    +5
    understandably. another liberals bought. maybe I could collect material on the genocide of the Soviet people by the Hitler Igler? and slovenian, russian people? by the way TFR collects material milking things, would help.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 8 August 2019 13: 35
      0
      What shake up the story, it would be better to give, or something, would be engaged. I suppose I’ve retired, there’s nothing to do, and that’s a foolish thing. feel
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    1. Masha
      Masha 8 August 2019 13: 45
      +10
      Even a donkey can kick a dead lion ...
  7. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 8 August 2019 13: 18
    -2
    I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

    In Ukraine, in 2009, a criminal case was opened against Stalin on the fact of mass starvation, where the court pleaded guilty to the political leadership for this, but closed the criminal case because of the death of the suspects.
    what's the point then? At the XX Congress of the CPSU they gave an assessment of what was happening then, what else? Only to be promoted?
    1. your1970
      your1970 8 August 2019 15: 21
      0
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

      In Ukraine, in 2009, a criminal case was opened against Stalin on the fact of mass starvation, where the court pleaded guilty to the political leadership for this, but closed the criminal case because of the death of the suspects.
      what's the point then? At the XX Congress of the CPSU they gave an assessment of what was happening then, what else? Only to be promoted?
      Is it possible to demand compensation, recognition of everything that he signed illegal ...... there is such a field not plowed for cutting dough .....
      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 8 August 2019 15: 46
        -3
        Quote: your1970
        compensation may be required

        with whom to demand, the case is closed for lack of defendants
        1. your1970
          your1970 8 August 2019 15: 49
          0
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Quote: your1970
          compensation may be required

          with whom to demand, the case is closed for lack of defendants
          - with the Russian Federation as the assignee of the USSR, there may be many nuances there ..
          As, for example, in Potsdam - when they discussed "Poland to write with or without comma" for an hour
          In politics, every little thing plays a role
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 8 August 2019 15: 54
            -2
            Quote: your1970
            with the Russian Federation as the legal successor of the USSR

            the point is not to the USSR, but to specific people. If it were
            Quote: your1970
            compensation may be required
            then Ukraine would not have missed it. PR pure water.
    2. tomket
      tomket 8 August 2019 16: 07
      0
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      what's the point then? At the XX Congress of the CPSU they gave an assessment of what was happening then, what else? Only to be promoted?

      And what is the point, for example, to promote blogger Dudya, and then shoot him the film "Kolyma - the birthplace of fear of Kudrin and Dudya"?
      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 8 August 2019 16: 13
        -1
        That is, you are comparing
        Quote: tomket
        blogger Dude,
        with Stalin? recourse
        Yes, and who is Dud?
        1. tomket
          tomket 8 August 2019 16: 45
          -1
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Yes, and who is Dud?

          Well, you laugh in vain. ask the youth if she is looking at Dude, and then look at what Dude is telling to this very youth. I admit that there are different Pozners, Ivanovs and others, the elite pound with kicks in an interview with Dude, in order to increase his rating and status as having the right to shape the worldview of youth. After all, many do not like Stalin's ratings.
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 8 August 2019 19: 49
            -2
            Quote: tomket
            Well, you laugh in vain

            I don’t laugh, I ask, I will be grateful for the normal answer, and not your scolding
  8. Amateur
    Amateur 8 August 2019 13: 18
    +6
    Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is "very important for Russia."

    Former investigator Igor Stepanov, working with Open Russia, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, has filed a lawsuit against the FSB. He asks to be informed why he was sent to Georgia during the war in August 2008.

    Former employee of the Investigative Committee Igor Stepanov appealed to the court with a request to the FSB to explain on what grounds he was sent to South Ossetia in August 2008 during the war with Georgia.

    Former head of the department of international legal cooperation of the Investigative Committee at the Prosecutor's Office (UPC) Igor Stepanov, who was also involved in the Yukos case, began working with Open Russia Mikhail Khodorkovsky as an expert. This was reported to Vedomosti by Stepanov himself and confirmed in Open Russia.

    It is necessary to treat them, wretched.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 8 August 2019 13: 22
      +8
      Amateur hi -9 mm vaccine has long been waiting for such bastards! !!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 8 August 2019 13: 28
        +37
        Maybe that's why?
    2. slasha
      slasha 11 August 2019 23: 14
      0
      It is necessary to treat them, wretched.
      Put to sleep! You must be more humane!
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 8 August 2019 13: 19
    +23
    And this miracle does not need to be given a legal assessment of Gorbachev’s actions, otherwise 300 times more people have died and are still dying from the actions of the humpback.
  10. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 8 August 2019 13: 20
    +8
    With the same success, a case can be brought against F.D.R. , he sent all Japanese, including US citizens, to concentration camps during the war.
  11. hohol95
    hohol95 8 August 2019 13: 21
    +8
    The question is -
    when will the Prosecutor's Office of Great Britain receive a request to institute proceedings on Cromwell born May 5, 1599 - died September 13, 1658?
  12. book
    book 8 August 2019 13: 22
    +9
    bolsheb initiated criminal proceedings against United Russia for the adoption of laws destroying their own people
  13. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 8 August 2019 13: 24
    +4
    Insanity grew stronger! Quietly rustling with slate, the roof goes slowly ...
  14. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 8 August 2019 13: 25
    +2
    laurels of bald maize do not give rest? !!!
  15. Masha
    Masha 8 August 2019 13: 26
    +2
    the case is finally terminated for the death of the accused ...
  16. demo
    demo 8 August 2019 13: 26
    +14
    Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities
    - said Gozman.

    Kicking a dead lion?
    And will this change the country?
    You better try to touch the jackals alive!
    Al scary?
    1. tomket
      tomket 8 August 2019 16: 10
      +1
      Quote: demo
      Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities
      - said Gozman.

      As an option, they recognize Stalin as a criminal, and then we denounce all international documents (Yalta, Potsdam, etc.) signed by him. Well, we begin to pay and repent.
      1. demo
        demo 8 August 2019 18: 21
        -2
        You are right.
        As an option.

        Stalin - Chairman of the Government of the USSR.
        Those. 100% legitimate and competent person.
        But the Russian Federation, although the successor to the USSR, is partially.
        For everything concerning the other 14 republics is no longer our business.
        Although the idea is interesting.
        But it hurts a lot of problems.
        And we have no such "experts" to bring such dreary events to the end.
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  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 August 2019 13: 30
    +3
    Gozman APPROVED! The rest could not be read ...
  19. yehat
    yehat 8 August 2019 13: 31
    +7
    Stepanov or a paid troll or a frozen zombie.
    If he took up the work to at least study the REAL history, he would see that Stalin simply could not do everything here
    That's what the wiki says about the NKVD order (in a very liberoid and therefore already false style)
    "On July 3, 1937, Stalin sent a telegram to Yezhov (there is no documentary confirmation), the regional party leadership and representatives of the NKVD, according to the decision of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks No. P51 / 94" On anti-Soviet elements "dated July 2 [13]"
    and now the question is exactly where and what did Stalin decide?
    There is a decision of the Politburo and there is its implementation by Yezhov. There is no name of Stalin at all.
    And such pulls "by the ears", absolutizing the power of Stalin, is just a sea.
    People simply don’t want to tell the truth about the structure of power at that time and they are blatantly lying.
    And about Yezhov. As I understand it, this is the protégé of the Kamenev group (Rosenfeld married to Bronstein), and not Stalin at all.
    I will give a few quotes from this figure
    Easy debauchery .. there is a sauce of life ..
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 8 August 2019 13: 34
      +5
      Quote: yehat
      Stepanov or a paid troll or a frozen zombie.

      you simply do not consider a fool an option?
      1. yehat
        yehat 8 August 2019 13: 36
        +2
        too much has been achieved for a fool.
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 8 August 2019 13: 52
          +1
          Well, if the fool was helpful, he could
      2. Ezekiel 25-17
        Ezekiel 25-17 8 August 2019 14: 38
        +1
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Quote: yehat
        Stepanov or a paid troll or a frozen zombie.

        you simply do not consider a fool an option?

        No such option can be considered in principle: this is a political order.
      3. demo
        demo 8 August 2019 18: 22
        0
        Initiative D. Fool.
        This is even worse than normal.
  20. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 8 August 2019 13: 32
    +4
    Can this former in the yellow house determine haloperidol pin?
    Well, she speaks purely as Novodvorskaya.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 8 August 2019 13: 34
      +4
      such immediately need to be pressed, and then after a fool they turn into a hypnip
  21. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 8 August 2019 13: 34
    -6
    Who is for publishing the policy on topcor and freeing topwar for news and discussion of military issues?
  22. andr1966a
    andr1966a 8 August 2019 13: 34
    -1
    Even a shak al can kick a dead lion
  23. Belisarius
    Belisarius 8 August 2019 13: 35
    -2
    Such insane actions of Stepanov and the "liberals" supporting him (insane both from the standpoint of law and from the standpoint of common sense) will only contribute to the growth of Comrade Stalin's popularity. So he can only be thanked.
    And for the current government, such statements are very beneficial, you can point to such citizens and say, if not us, then they. What do you want the power of Gozmans? And that’s all, of course. I’m too .... I’m better now ..
  24. Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 8 August 2019 13: 36
    +3
    Would you go on ... comrade Stepanov.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 8 August 2019 16: 12
      +2
      on
      Let's arrange a debate both in Ukraine, Right on or in.
  25. Jcvai
    Jcvai 8 August 2019 13: 38
    +2
    The actions of the legal leader of a country with the support of the vast majority of the population of this country cannot be illegal, and therefore not a crime.
    It is strange that the prosecutor's office and others like them did not make counterproductive "knowingly false denunciations" and "slander".
  26. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 8 August 2019 13: 40
    +3
    Key words: "I want it like in Ukraine", PR clean water on the part of Mr. Stepanov, and of Gozman. Well, or as an option, deep idiocy, in an incurable stage.
  27. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 8 August 2019 13: 41
    +8
    It would be better if they brought against Gorbachev and the political elite of the Central Committee of the CPSU, which merged a great country, and against Yeltsin, for the genocide of Russian citizens ....
  28. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 8 August 2019 13: 45
    0
    I couldn’t think of anything better or have nothing more to do at work. How to raise matters that will soon turn a hundred years old. Yes, and the state doesn’t have to start such cases. Or what, there are few modern cases where you can make your efforts. At this pace, you can condemn everyone, just from this now change.
    1. your1970
      your1970 8 August 2019 15: 24
      +1
      Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      or nothing else to do at work
      -he pensioner
      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 8 August 2019 16: 27
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        or nothing else to do at work
        -he pensioner

        Moreover, where he generally climbs then. It would be better to take up the garden or find a hobby for yourself than to go and write a statement.
  29. apro
    apro 8 August 2019 13: 46
    +1
    Reading this news ... you can imagine how hordes of monkeys burst into the command center of the spacecraft and press all the buttons in a row. They pull the levers. They give incomprehensible comedies ...
    They want historical truth? I doubt it. The truth is that it is beneficial for the individual at a given time ... and there are no brakes and control ...
  30. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 8 August 2019 13: 47
    0
    Well, where did these D. come from here, and they even worked in the organs. fool
    Or maybe we will initiate a criminal case against Napoleon? Or even Khan Batu and Co. For more than 200 years, they have been pressing all the same, these are not links with executions!
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 8 August 2019 13: 55
      +8
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      where did these D. come from here, and they even worked in the organs.

      we have such D even led the country
      1. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 8 August 2019 14: 25
        0
        Tooting!
  31. Military Builder
    Military Builder 8 August 2019 13: 48
    0
    Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities
    - said Gozman.

    first, get the current authorities to respect the laws, and so "any hare can kick a dead lion"
  32. Alex66
    Alex66 8 August 2019 13: 56
    +2
    Stepanov said he would seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and was ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights. However, the hero, as they said about Khrushchev, declared war on the dead and managed to lose it. Stepanov there too. It remains only to declare a fireplace.
  33. yehat
    yehat 8 August 2019 13: 57
    0
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Maybe that's why?

    learn the story
    Stalin did not punish everyone according to their deserts, and he could not physically "all"
    Stalin forgave several generals and officials who could be deservedly put on a stake for what was done (in the rear), and made it possible to continue working.
    1. Evil echo
      Evil echo 8 August 2019 15: 44
      0
      I missed many, and the past is easy to judge, condemn or praise. Here in the modern world it’s getting harder and harder to pick out the truth, and to judge the past ...
  34. K-50
    K-50 8 August 2019 14: 00
    0
    The former investigator demanded the initiation of a criminal case against Joseph Stalin, submitting an application to the Prosecutor General's Office and the Investigative Committee. It demands to obtain a legal assessment of the mass shootings and exiles carried out by order of the NKVD No. 00447 of July 30, 1937 "On the operation to repress former kulaks, criminals and other anti-Soviet elements", signed by the Soviet leader.

    And this is an investigator, albeit a former? belay
    And what did Stalin order to shoot and punish, fabricated and denounced the case, carried out investigative measures to gather evidence? Finally, did Stalin pass these or those laws? At best, he could put forward or propose something. All decision-makers on the account of the then deputies, various communists from the party committee cells and above.
    There were decisions of the Central Committee and other institutions of Soviet power. Stalin did not lead them, did not consider matters, and generally could have no information about this.
    So where does Stalin have to do with it? fool
    This is about how now to blame Putin for all the troubles, as if he was stealing budgets, not building and repairing roads. But you never know what can be blamed indiscriminately and from a sore head !! fellow
  35. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 8 August 2019 14: 00
    0
    Stepanov said he would seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and was ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights.
    I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

    I remember a story for L. Tolstoy’s children about a sparrow who wished to have a satisfying place to live and put all the boys behind bars. It turned out to be easier to put a sparrow in a cage.
    It’s easier to send a used one to the Ruin and he will be happy.
  36. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 8 August 2019 14: 01
    +7
    Here is a truly outstanding person and leader. How great are his deeds and accomplishments, if the enemies are afraid of him dead, even 66 years after death ... They are even afraid of the memory of him, which they are trying to slander
  37. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 8 August 2019 14: 12
    +1
    Stupid little man .. and stinking occupation. Gozman's "blessing" confirms this
  38. viktor.
    viktor. 8 August 2019 14: 13
    0
    Let Stepan sweep the yards!
  39. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 August 2019 14: 20
    +1
    But this Stepanov did not study at the Stalinist school and institute; where did he come from, whose, as they say, will be? We are all against repression, but what happened was nothing and you can’t bring anything back. Why are you Stepanov under the Soviet regime silent mongrel cowardly? They gave you free rein, even the Kovtun eagle feels against the dead. Clowns in one word.
  40. Van 16
    Van 16 8 August 2019 14: 48
    0
    All this resembles mongrels that are yapping at a dead elephant.
  41. kerxer
    kerxer 8 August 2019 14: 59
    +3
    Visual action of the Overton Window feature! First, recognize Stalin as a criminal, then the USSR (Russia) as a criminal, and then annul the results of the Second World War with a revision of the borders of the assigned territories, of course, take away from Russia its "illegal" territories, leaving Moscow and the Moscow region to it! The gozmans only use this opportunity, and their accomplices Stepanovs, for thirty pieces of silver, serve their masters!
  42. kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek 8 August 2019 15: 00
    +2
    I BELIEVE. The time will come and the punishing sword of retaliation will go over the heads of pro -ovite shit and democrats for the collapse of the USSR, and for the dashing 90s, and of course for Stalin.
  43. Etienne
    Etienne 8 August 2019 15: 04
    +6
    Listen, "ex"! This is on your hands and the hands of your accomplices the blood of millions of my compatriots. It was your government that mowed the people like grass in the 90s. It remains to be seen how much "linden" will be in your accusation, as it was in the Katyn case, when you arranged a trial against the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. I hope I haven't forgotten how your idea ended then? All the steam is gone! In court, you will have to open all the archives, otherwise the defense with good reason will send you to a known address and the court will not take place. However, you are by nature too cowardly to do this. If we admit the incredible, then finally how many documents were destroyed, starting with this bald nit of Khrushchev and ending with EBN. And it won't be difficult to check. Each document submitted by the prosecution will be checked by the defense, involving experts and not the fact that in an open court session you decide to play marked cards. It is possible that a counter-charge will be brought forward and it is not known that you will sing to the court in your defense.
    And further! Anger overshadows the mind, destroys the adequate perception of space and time, leaving those who sink to such a state, animal reflexes and instincts. You will not be understood here, sir, and your "impulse" will not be appreciated.
  44. ZVS
    ZVS 8 August 2019 15: 09
    +4
    Where do these ... uki come from the Prosecutor General? Grew up in the country that Stalin built, and now they demand to judge him?
  45. Evil echo
    Evil echo 8 August 2019 15: 18
    +1
    Former Investigator for Particularly Important Cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov

    And why did they turn the disease over?
  46. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 8 August 2019 15: 42
    0
    To kick a dead lion, a lot of courage is not necessary.
  47. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 8 August 2019 15: 44
    +2
    Consider the case of Mr. Stepanov for libel and Mr. Gozman for incitement-send to the camp! Maybe then all kinds of ex-denyuks will spoil the air and pump out the boat ?!
  48. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 8 August 2019 15: 55
    0
    "Even a donkey can kick a dead lion."
    What is the point of this ?! We have no unsolved crimes left ?! He was bored retired ?!
  49. Ironclad
    Ironclad 8 August 2019 15: 55
    +3
    Quote: avdkrd
    I completely agree. It is more logical to demand criminal proceedings against the living and prosperous:
    1. Gorbachev. A country that has collapsed in spite of the results of the All-Union referendum, which reduced the country's defense capability to an alarming minimum .....
    2. Yeltsin - skip because dead
    3. Chubais is the ideologist and implementer of the privatization program. Openly (on TV) declaring that privatization was a fraud and pursued one single goal - to transfer state property into private hands, in order to exclude the preconditions for the revival of socialism. Thief of All Russia. A participant in the genocide of the Russian population in the 90s, cynically declaring that the death of 10-20 million people who did not "fit" into the market is quite a normal payment for the transition to capitalism ...

    Yelets also judge! Stalin is dead longer !!!!
  50. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 August 2019 15: 56
    +2
    The cat threw kittens is Stalin's fault. And where does Stalin, these are his bad people's commissars.
    And seriously. But is it time to give a legal assessment of the acts of Yeltsin. At least it's closer and everyone remembers. And there you can reach Rusty.
    And spitting in your own story is the last thing!