The Prosecutor General's Office was required to institute criminal proceedings against Stalin

Former investigator of particularly important cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov demanded that a criminal case be instituted against Joseph Stalin. It is reported "Businessman".

The former investigator demanded that criminal proceedings be instituted against Joseph Stalin, by submitting an application to the Prosecutor General and the Investigative Committee. It requires a legal assessment of the mass executions and links carried out by order of the NKVD No.00447 of 30 on July 1937 of the year "On the operation to repress former fists, criminals and other anti-Soviet elements", signed by the Soviet leader. According to Stepanov, Stalin should be considered "the organizer of the massacres, that is, the genocide of Orthodox priests and other citizens."

The Prosecutor General's Office sent the statement to Stepanova to the Ivanovo Region, but they refused to accept it, explaining that the former investigator did not provide “specific information about the circumstances indicating signs of a crime” in Stalin’s actions. Stepanov appealed this decision to the Regional Prosecutor's Office, but was also refused there.

The adoption by the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (b) of a resolution approving the NKVD order No. 00447 cannot be a sufficient basis for initiating a criminal case

- said in the decision.

Stepanov said he will seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and is ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights. According to him, the prosecutor’s office is obliged to give a legal assessment of the actions of the Soviet leader, because without her in Russia "the cult of Stalin is preserved and monuments and monuments are erected to him."

I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

- he said.

In Ukraine, in 2009, a criminal case was opened against Stalin on the fact of mass starvation, where the court pleaded guilty to the political leadership for this, but closed the criminal case because of the death of the suspects.

Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is "very important for Russia."

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities

- said Gozman.

Comments

[pafegosoff]

And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

[Underwater hunter]

Stalin became again very popular among the people, and they are trying to denigrate them in every way .. And why doesn’t they raise the question about the genocide that the authorities committed with the pension reform? Why did the population grow under Stalin, but are now dying out? And for the 90s, who will be responsible?

[Egorovich]

Indeed, each in his own way goes crazy. Stepanov is no exception.

[Proxima]

Quote: Egorovich

Indeed, each in his own way goes crazy. Stepanov is no exception.

No, dear, with his head everything is in order, but here with conscience and decency... I call it the Pusey Wright effect. Some whores promoted themselves on the basis of insulting the feelings of believers and that's it! They are now on the lips of the whole world, even Madonna came out in their defense. So does this former prosecutor (who is worse than a whore) publicizing himself on the tragic topic of Stalin’s repressions.

[Alena Frolovna]

... but with conscience and decency ...

And let those who knew answer
But suddenly they didn’t want to know
As they waited for everything that Stalin would say
When they did not know what to say.
And now - talkative became:
And the whistle from behind the hill
With zeal the name "Stalin»
Gruff, not remembering the good.

Oh gentlemen you are not tired
To slander and slander him?
He was, and is, and will be - Stalin!
And he will live for centuries.
Days go by, dates fit
The Clock of History is on -
Leader worthy descendants
How to honor the reward.
Ivan Kulikov

[Vadivak]

Quote: Alena Frolovna

Days go by, dates fit
The Clock of History is on -
Leader worthy descendants
How to honor the reward.
Ivan Kulikov

We love strong people, we love hard leaders
We get high when they hit us on the head.
Such is our path, otherwise it is impossible with us
- In our blood, longing for a strong hand

Timur Shaov

[bayard]

Quote: Vadivak

We love strong people, we love hard leaders
We get high when they hit us on the head.
Such is our path, otherwise it is impossible with us
- In our blood, longing for a strong hand

Timur Shaov

As citizen Shaov put it self-critically.
And if a citizen "catches a high" when he is beaten, and the broader expression "we" is understood as a citizen's fellow tribesmen, then where does the offense at the "pogroms" and "Holocaust" come from? Stalin, who created the state of Israel and the Jewish Autonomous Region?
After all, if a citizen of Shaov and his loved ones "yearn for a strong hand in their blood," they should erect golden monuments to the founder of their state at every crossroads of Israel and praise Yahweh that Izril still has a strong hand in power.
As far as I know, many Israeli citizens have a portrait of Stalin in their place of honor.

[Proxima]

Quote: Vadivak

We love strong people, we love hard leaders,
We get high when they hit us on the head.
Such is our path, otherwise it is impossible with us
- We have a longing for blood strong arm

Let Timur Shaov, at least at the end of his life, deal with his masochistic inclinations.

[Dmitry Nikolaevich Fedunov]

Does he want it like in "Ukraine"? Yes he is classic acupuncture nepolyazets-eHesovets with Echo or with Radio Sv.lot!

[Tatyana]

Stepanov's demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything Stepanov does "is very important for Russia."

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will allow CHANGE OF THE COUNTRY and get the authorities to respect the law

- said Gozman.

Gozman's cynicism is simply unlimited !!!

THESE pro-Western "guss" right-wing liberals "gozmans" are leading our country - Russia - on the way to its final geopolitical self-elimination from within, as in Ukraine.

REFERENCE
The Union of Right Forces (SPS) is an officially registered Russian electoral bloc and a liberal political party that existed in the Russian Federation in 1999 — 2008. During the parliamentary elections in 1999, the party funded by Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
On December 10 of 1998, the Right Cause coalition was formed to participate in the elections, which included about 30 organizations.
Leaders of the Union of Right Forces.
1. Boris Nemtsov (2001-2004)
2. Victor Nekrutenko (2004 — 2005)
3. Nikita Belykh (2005-2008)
4. Leonid Gozman.

ARCHIVE photo ATP
Nemtsov, Kiriyenko, Khakamada, Mikhail Kasyanov (?), Gaidar, Chubais.

[bober1982]

Quote: Tatiana

Kasyanov (?)

K. Titov, former governor of the Samara region.

[Tatyana]

Quote: bober1982

Quote: Tatiana

Kasyanov (?)

K. Titov, former governor of the Samara region.

Yes, you recognized him correctly - K. Titov! And then I could not make out who it was in the photo.

Apparently, the corrupt bureaucratic "underbelly" of the Kremlin has begun to move against Putin in connection with the detection of criminal cases against snickering officials in the country. They, apparently, want to redirect from themselves and their crimes the wave of the growth of historical popular self-awareness and resentment against Stalin - so to speak, in line with the continuation of liberal decommunization in the country.

[bk316]

Apparently, they want to redirect from themselves and their crimes a wave of growth of historical popular consciousness and resentment towards Stalin -

No chance Tatyana, where are they and where is Stalin ....
It was as if a bug sensing that it was being crushed now, he decided to turn the arrows on God.

[cradle]

so you need not even give a chance

[stopkran]

Looking at the photos of these liberals, I remembered the poem “on the death of a politician”:
He was accompanied by a flurry of ridicule at the grave,
Some laughed just madly.
And only I, only I alone sobbed.
I so dreamed of seeing him hanged.
Healer bellock

[Simargl]

Quote: Tatiana

Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is "very important for Russia."

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will allow CHANGE OF THE COUNTRY
and get the authorities to respect the law

- said Gozman.
Gozman's cynicism is simply unlimited !!!

And if the prosecutor's office takes into consideration and with special cynicism (regarding liberoids) will give a positive legal assessment of the actions of Stalin?
Have to cancel many rehabilitation?

[Lycan]

Quote: Tatiana

Gozman's cynicism is simply unlimited !!!

He (and many of the Union of Right Forces) has such a job - to sabotage his homeland.
And now, it’s an open market, and money, as you know, doesn’t smell. And performers with suitable moral and working parameters are also on such a job (the main thing is to correctly camouflage their activities so that the Ministry of Internal Affairs does not undermine the nose).

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Quote: Proxima

So is this former prosecutor.

It seems that the article says that this pretzel is not a prosecutor, but just a trail)

[Labrador]

even Madonna came out in their defense.

This same Madame for a long time provided her mouth with work on the eve of the US presidential election.

But with an addiction to dig under Stepanov's nails it would be useful. You see a couple of skeletons come out of the closet and he will immediately cut the back. And then he wants to see "as in Ukraine"! Yes, for one such desire nowadays you have to shake up everything underwear and put it on a pencil!

[vik669]

I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed - but such an amputation cannot be treated only by amputation ...!

[Blacksmith 55]

Stalin became popular among the people because of lawlessness and impunity in the country.
But I don’t think that the supporters of Stalin’s "return" would like to live under that regime, the repressions would affect everyone.
It is not necessary to praise Stalin, but simply ALL to restore order in the country. Not only the authorities (in any case), but everyone also needs to evaluate their actions separately.

[nils]

“Kum, I don’t understand ... Why, under Stalin, Korolev’s missile was engaged in missiles and not a loser journalist? But, let’s say, the talented physicist Kurchatov, and not the upstart-kinsurprise, drove the atomic project?
And for some reason the Minister of Defense was a professional military man, and not a former builder ...
- This tyrant was so mean about the country.

[bk316]

Kurchatov, a talented physicist, steered the atomic project, and not an upstart-kinsurprise?

Here you are wrong. Kiriyenko does not steer a nuclear project, but an office selling the results of a nuclear project. Steers quite successfully.

[slasha]

He does not steer, but sells. What can be understood by the word "rules", in my opinion, includes not only the sale of what was inherited from the USSR (developments, ideas, finished projects), but also the creation of a new one.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

We must not praise Stalin.
Stalin became popular among the people because of lawlessness and impunity in the country.

And do not trample Stalin into the mud!
And you talk like another "bulk"!

Stalin is the Great Historical Patriotic Person for our people and our country!

[Blacksmith 55]

Tatyana, you are deeply mistaken, I do not support Navalny at all.
Stalin did a lot for the USSR, but repression ..... And in my family there were (were) innocently injured. Moreover, they were illiterate collective farmers, they turned out to be enemies of the people.
For some reason, most people think that there was no repression, because there are a lot of books about them, and if someone condemns them, then it acts like a red rag on a bull.
But starting a CASE for a long dead person is simply stupid.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

Stalin did a lot for the USSR, but repression ..... And in my family there were (were) innocently injured. Moreover, they were illiterate collective farmers, they turned out to be enemies of the people. For some reason, most believe that there was no repression

Learn in detail the history of your relatives and the reasons for their arrests - by whom, when, for what, as well as with whose filing and why your relatives were arrested! And much will become clear to you.

In addition, you lose sight of the fact that Stalin in the country did not rule alone, but collectively. And while in the party there were 2 trends: Trotskyists and Stalinists.
- Trotskyite collaborators under the flag of the world revolution essentially transferred Soviet Russia under foreign external control to the West,
- And Stalin fought with them for the national sovereignty of our country and the building of socialism in a single country.
And only in the 1937-38 years did the political turning point of this domestic political struggle in favor of the Stalinists take place, but not to the end. Until that time, the Trotskyist zombie liberal sabotage in the country was full, including deliberately false arrests and executions of innocently convicted citizens. The same opportunist Khrushchev had his hands up to his shoulders in blood in this regard for drawing up execution lists, which once had to be stopped by Stalin with a resolution on the execution list "Stop, you cancer!"

And for exceeding power and for not entirely justified repressions in the country, it was under Stalin, in the end, that Trotskyist Yagoda himself and his henchman Yezhov were shot. So your, as you say, "innocently repressed relatives" were avenged by the Stalinists.

[Blacksmith 55]

What circles are you talking about? Collective farmers who are not interested in politics?
My mother told me what happened in the village, one example: there was a preparatory collective farm that wrote to the peasants, and then took advantage of the position that it was very difficult for the wives (enemies) to feed and raise their children. I hope you, as a woman, understand what kind of "help" we are talking about.
Whether it was under Yezhov, Berry or Beria, I don’t know, it does not matter at the moment, it was, and there was another. And I do not need to prove that the Father of all nations knew nothing.
Nicholas II did not "know" that it was hard for the people either.
All leaders know that they have a service.
I already wrote to you, I think it's stupid to start a case against Stalin, but this should not happen again.
I'm not going to prove anything to you, most likely each of us will remain with our own opinion. Regards, Blacksmith.

[Tatyana]

From this collective farm chairman - a voluntarist and a scoundrel, i.e. from the popular "lower classes" - and we must first begin specifically accusations of the "upper classes"! What were the "lower classes", such were the results of the repressions.
Quote: smith 55
I do not need to prove that the Father of Nations did not hall.
All managers know that they have services.
Yes, but not all service employees honestly swear allegiance and homeland!

[Blacksmith 55]

Tatyana, read "Men and Women", in my opinion Mozhaev wrote. Read Rybakov's Children of the Arbat, about Solzhenitsyn, I don’t want to mention him.
"Father Arseny" I do not know the author, it is about the ministers of the church.

[Tatyana]

Peter! I don't even need to read! In our family, there were also repressed, as much as 10 years in the camps! I am very much aware of how in the localities everything was really and with whom, and in what, and why there was a "stigma in fluff".

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

It begins!

And in my family there were (were) innocently injured. Moreover, they were illiterate collective farmers, they turned out to be enemies of the people.

Remember:
1. Punishment without guilt DOES NOT HAPPEN !!!
2. Write complaints to the Hague Tribunal against: Khazar Haganate, Livonian Knights, Mongolo-Tatars, Golden Horde, Poles, Swedes, French, Cossacks, Bolsheviks, Mensheviks, White Guards (including Denikin, Wrangel, Kolchak, Ataman Shkuro and etc.), ANTANT, fascists, Americans, NATO.
And other aggressors not mentioned by me.
Make the world public support you!
Let millions of caring people take a single impulse to the streets of their cities and demand that all the aforementioned villains be recognized in the genocide of your ancestors since the time of the Nativity of Christ!
And be sure to request cash compensation !!! And then the meaning of the deed will be lost !!!

[Blacksmith 55]

Obi Wan, do you really not know how to read, he wrote, it’s nonsense to start a business on a long dead person. I don’t complain about what happened, it was, the main thing is that it wouldn’t happen again. The end of the discussion.

[cradle]

would like to be honest people more than you think and do not measure on their own.

[astepanov]

Is it only a matter of pension reform? And the collapse of the Union? And the war in Chechnya? And the looting of state property and the accumulation of citizens? But the collapse of industry, agriculture, energy? And the destruction of the armed forces? And the rampant crime in general and corruption in particular? And the massive sale of military technology abroad? What about the HIV and drug epidemic? And the export of capital abroad? But the destruction of science, education, health? That would be for all these Yeltsins, Gaidars and other Gorbachevs to be judged. And the living, and those who cast their hooves. And then to take on Stalin - but only the lazy did not kick him, forgetting how much good was done at that time. I do not know what outweighs: the sins of Stalin or his great deeds, but the crimes that began under Gorbachev have no counterweight. So they would start with them, without waiting for the living villains to flee to the next world.

[Cop]

Quote: astepanov

..... forgetting how much good was done at that time.

And we must start apparently from the famine of 1921-22, continue collectivization, dispossession, industrialization, repressions of 1937-39, the deaths of more than 27 million Soviet citizens in the Second World War, and the famine of 1946-47 .g-s and finish apparently the Korean War. Here is a far from complete list of his "good" deeds .....

[astepanov]

Do you attribute industrialization to crime? Then, one must assume that the destruction of industry in the late 20th - early 21st centuries should be recognized as achievement and feat.
This Stalin, in your opinion, unleashed the Great Patriotic War - when did all of Europe fight against the USSR? Is Stalin to blame for the deaths of about 11 million inhabitants of the occupied territories, in the rear - from bombing, in blockades - from hunger? What are you carrying? Do you have a conscience?

[Cop]

Quote: astepanov

Do you attribute industrialization to crime?

And it depends on how to carry it out. Here is one of the points of accusation of the Hitler regime that Germany used the slave labor of prisoners of war, prisoners and forcibly removed Soviet citizens and citizens of other countries. That's when they dispossessed, their family .... their kulaks were deprived of all their property and even taken to a neighboring region, thereby forcing adult family members to go to work on the construction of a factory or factory. In other words, do this very industrialization. Aren't these two examples ... alike?

Quote: astepanov

Then, one must assume that the destruction of industry in the late 20th - early 21st centuries should be recognized as achievement and feat.

Did anyone destroy it? In Vegas, in the city of Berdsk, there was a Vega software company, which produced household electronic equipment. After the collapse of the USSR, similar products of Western companies poured into the country, for example, Sony and the Vega software “died” unable to withstand competition. The same thing happened with other flagships of Soviet industry. So who destroyed her?

Quote: astepanov

This Stalin, in your opinion, unleashed the Great Patriotic War - when did all of Europe fight against the USSR?

Of course, he did not untie her. He didn’t attack Poland, at least first ..... Well, he participated in the unleashing, he signed the pact.

Quote: astepanov

Is Stalin to blame for the deaths of about 11 million inhabitants of the occupied territories, in the rear - from bombing, in blockades - from hunger?

And then who is to blame for the fact that the Red Army draped up to Moscow and the Volga, thereby leaving these people in the occupied territories? The country was tearing itself “riveted” of twenty thousand tanks and armored vehicles and they, under its .... wise leadership, were safely burned or abandoned in June July 1941 .....

Quote: astepanov

What are you carrying?

РџСЂР ° РІРґСѓ ...

Quote: astepanov

Do you have a conscience?

There is. Conscience is not among those who glorify this "best friend of all athletes" .....

[Mordvin 3]

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[Cop]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Vega, as well as at many other enterprises, began to experience difficulties with components.

And who did not have them? I well remember how the same Sony had problems with VCRs assembled at a French factory.

Quote: mordvin xnumx

I wonder how you would work if yesterday's supplier suddenly finds itself abroad and the central ministries are abolished.

So, after all, Sony also bought components mainly abroad. Moreover, the USSR bought some of them abroad, for example, in the "Electronics 211 stereo" tape recorder, the electric motor was Japanese, and the power amplifier was assembled on the A-310 microcircuit. Who prevented the same Vega from purchasing them directly ... and not waiting for quotas from the ministry. I did not track the collapse of Soviet industry, but I can give an example that I witnessed. Here in my village where I come from was a collective farm. He was a millionaire ...... thanks to the state agroindustry, and when it came, as one here put it, "democracy and glasnost", then its leaders took loans in the hope that, as usual, the state agroprom will repay or write off. And it was abolished, and as a result, all the collective farmers went around the world. And in the neighboring area there was another collective farm, the chairman of which optimized production, expelling all lazy people and drunks, selling unnecessary equipment, renting out unnecessary objects, such as a canteen or a recreation center. And this collective farm, now it is a joint-stock company, lives well, people work and receive wages. In the industry, I think it was the same. So who in this case is to blame in the first place?

Quote: mordvin xnumx

And Vega finished off privatization. Nothing original.

She gave Vega a second chance, and those who received her controlling interest simply did not know what to do with it. Hence the result.

Quote: mordvin xnumx

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Quote: mordvin xnumx

Yes, and even when Napoleon flooded, they would have instantly destroyed. Why aren’t you blaming Alexander 1?

And you write an article about ... Napoleon and I will definitely insert my "five cents" .....

Quote: mordvin xnumx

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[Mordvin 3]

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Laws: “On a small state-owned enterprise, On cooperation, On individual labor activity” were adopted back in 1987. What prevented Vega’s leadership from using these laws to create a network of “daughters” and “one-day” companies for the purchase of everything necessary for the production and sale of their products at the market price? After all, there is a good example, this is a VAZ. Remember the LOGOVAZ company? Indeed ... foresighted people worked. But Vega’s leadership was simply not capable of it .....

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But they were given complete freedom of foreign economic activity. Why not Vega with the same Sony to create a joint venture?

Quote: mordvin xnumx

They knew what to do. Having bought one of the flagships of the USSR radio industry for a song, they sold everything,

So you yourself answered your question, if these "red" directors did not know how to work in the new conditions, and some did not want to.

Quote: mordvin xnumx

.... competitors (the same Sonya), clapping their hands joyfully.

It’s a child’s statement ..... This is a market, some people sell their products at a loss to “drown” a competitor.

Quote: mordvin xnumx

By the way, in the 95th year, a friend bought Vityaz (such a TV viewer), he broke in a week. It turned out that the Japs put defective components.

This is what you are for? There were few similar problems with the same Sony. I have already given you an example with her French factory.

Quote: mordvin xnumx

So, their activity should be considered by the prosecutor's office, without waiting until they hoofs are thrown back. The same Mikhaila Sergeyitch still smokes the sky, receives a pension of 40 salaries.

And what can you incriminate him? Here, Yeltsin can be charged with an article for treason against the Motherland for signing the “Bialowieza Agreements”, then “MS” simply has nothing ....

Quote: mordvin xnumx

.... so initially it was supposed to make vouchers registered.

Quite right, but then they realized that it was such a “hemorrhagic" upon renewal and refused.

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Close one eye.

Why so? Do not pay? Or were my "five cents" scared?

Quote: mordvin xnumx

In the aggregate of all factors, the pros in Stalin’s rule outweigh the minuses. IMHO.

And you watch the movie "Russia that we lost" and, and then compare with the one that we acquired, thanks to t-chu Dzhugashvilli .....

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

This Stalin, in your opinion, unleashed the Great Patriotic War - when did all of Europe fight against the USSR?
Of course, he did not untie her. He didn’t attack Poland, at least first ..... Well, he participated in the unleashing, he signed the pact.

The main thing you do not worry. Somehow calmer, perhaps ...
The day will come and the NKVD (GPU) will come for you !!! There you will tell everything in detail.
"Comrade, know! It will pass
Both democracy and publicity.
And then state security
Will remember our names! "

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Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

"Comrade, know! It will pass
Both democracy and publicity.
And then state security
Will remember our names! "[/ I]

This is hardly the time when:

Today is a holiday for the guys
Jubilant Pioneer!
Today I came to visit us
Lavrenty Pavlych Beria!

will never come back .....

[cradle]

you have a talking nickname. What are you littering about?

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Quote: besik

you have a talking nickname. What are you littering about?

Have you tried to change the transcription?

[Fikys]

Quote: Cop

Quote: besik

you have a talking nickname. What are you littering about?

Have you tried to change the transcription?

What for?! So much more correct.

Quote: Cop

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Wrong. Everyone has their own truth, but the truth is one and indisputable. If you want to know the truth, first of all look at the result. The result of Stalin’s reign is absolutely unambiguous and undeniable: the country did not have such a breakthrough in its entire long history, even under Peter, and this is Truth, unlike your personal truth.
The family of my grandmother was repressed in Ukraine for "prosperity" and moved to the Far East. In the 90s, she once said: "What a pity that Stalin is not here now." These words of hers mean immeasurably more to me than your opinion and those like you.

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Quote: Fikys

What for?! So much more correct.

So is it true or .... true?

Quote: Fikys

Wrong. Everyone has their own truth, but the truth is one and indisputable.

Just as true. After all, everyone also has their own pregnancy, one (th) .... has a miscarriage, and the other triple ...

Quote: Fikys

If you want to know the truth, first of all look at the result. The result of the rule of Stalin is completely unambiguous and undeniable ...

That’s for sure ..... fifty million ruined lives, first of all, Russian is really the result ....

Quote: Fikys

the country has not had such a breakthrough in development over its entire long history, even under Peter

Are you serious now? Would you even compare how much land Peter the Great grew and how much Comrade Dzhugashvilli lost ....

Quote: Fikys

The family of my grandmother was repressed in Ukraine for "prosperity" and moved to the Far East. In the 90s, she once said: "What a pity that Stalin is not here now." These words of hers mean immeasurably more to me than your opinion and those like you.

Yes ...., you don’t even feel sorry for your own grandmother, which Comrade Dzhugashvilli repressed only because she worked well in her land ... This is your ..... truth, Pavlik Morozov .... .

[Fikys]

Yeah. It is rare to see such an outstanding set of alogisms, historical illiteracy and inability to understand what has been read. Engage in sophistry alone, I have more interesting things to do.

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Quote: Fikys

Yeah. It is rare to see such an outstanding set of alogisms, historical illiteracy and inability to understand what has been read.

Well, what are you, I specifically tell you - compare the pier, you yourself will understand everything .... and you .....

Quote: Fikys

...... I have more interesting things to do.

This immediately reminded me: d --- k. That's where you come from, apparently graduated .... Russian school, not Soviet ....

[slasha]

Hunger 21-22 - whose merit? Maybe the "partners" should be asked? Not only did they arm and equip the White Guards, they also robbed them not badly during the democratic intervention. Here's an example of an alliance.
Collectivization? But could the country survive without it, without a system of collecting and distributing food during the war with the European Union (3 Reich)?
Death from above, as you write, 27 million citizens of the USSR is also not clear - apparently Stalin's fault. But how - did not make Moscow, Leningrad, etc., etc., open cities, like Paris! Don't you know that Adolf came to our land to DESTROY THE WHOLE POPULATION of the country? You do not know that you, according to the racial theory, are an untermensch, and are subject to destruction, and the Bavarian with sausages is only for racially high-grade "masters". And your place is in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Yes, you, Hauptmann, apparently not worth explaining. This is not yours ...

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Quote: slasha

Hunger 21-22 - whose merit? Maybe the "partners" should be asked?

Yes incl. and t-cha Dzhugashvilli. After all, he supported the policy of "war communism". Namely, she led to hunger. What partners should I ask? Maybe those who sealed the car?

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Not only did they arm and equip the White Guards, they also robbed not badly during the democratic intervention.

So they recognized the Kolchak government as legal, and therefore helped. When the power of the Bolsheviks was recognized as legitimate, they began to cooperate with them. So on their part, everything is legal. And about robbery? And who released the Czechoslovakians with the loot in exchange for most of Kolchak's gold? Could Coba be against it?

Quote: slasha

Collectivization? But could the country survive without it, without a system of collecting and distributing food during the war with the European Union (3 Reich)?

But the king-father somehow stood up and managed without nearly eight million who died of hunger. Sorry, but the 3th Reich on the second front against whom he fought, do not remember? Is it not with the part, as you put it in the European Union?

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The death from above, as you write, of the 27-million citizens of the USSR is also not clear - apparently the fault of Stalin.

Well, whose fault? The whole country was tearing apart its veins, preparing for war, almost 20 thousands of tanks and armored vehicles were “riveted”. And how the war began .... why didn’t they go ... ".. .. rattling fire, sparkling with the brilliance of steel ..."?

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But how - did not make Moscow, Leningrad, etc., etc. open cities like Paris!

Or maybe it was just not necessary to bring Leningrad to a blockade? Well .... the wise comrade Dzhugashvilli didn’t think about such an opportunity .... or didn’t he turn to Adolf Aloizovich with a proposal to organize a humanitarian corridor for the civilian population to leave. Now that would be a plus for him. Or maybe he just didn’t give a damn about the people dying of hunger in Leningrad?

Quote: slasha

And you do not know that Adolf came to our land to DESTROY the entire population of the country?

Well, why did Adolf come to our land, I know from his book .. "Mein Kampf" is called, did not read? I advise .....

Quote: slasha

..... in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Have you been there? So I was there in the distant 1987 year, I remember well these rooms in which people to be destroyed were undressed before allegedly washing .... So they are completely filled with clothes, shoes and other personal belongings of the unfortunate. And what a smell there ..... And some things there belonged to citizens of the USSR. So doesn’t Comrade Dzhugashvilli bear his share of responsibility for the fact that they were there?

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Yes, you, Hauptmann, apparently not worth explaining. This is not yours ...

So after all, you, l-nt state security, are also not worth explaining anything. After all, it’s yours to lose 27 millions, the citizens of your own country, and only then .... "exhaust" two million foreign citizens. And mine - it’s not a lot of blood, but on someone else’s territory, and not even two, but rather 22, all the more it would only benefit the Aryan nation .....

[avdkrd]

I completely agree. It is more logical to demand criminal proceedings against the living and prosperous:
1. Gorbachev. A country that has collapsed in spite of the results of the All-Union referendum, which reduced the country's defense capability to an alarming minimum .....
2. Yeltsin - skip because dead
3. Chubais is the ideologist and implementer of the privatization program. Openly (on TV) declaring that privatization was a fraud and pursued one single goal - to transfer state property into private hands, in order to exclude the preconditions for the revival of socialism. Thief of All Russia. A participant in the genocide of the Russian population in the 90s, cynically declaring that the death of 10-20 million people who did not "fit" into the market is quite a normal payment for the transition to capitalism ...

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Why did the population grow under Stalin, but are now dying out?

Because under Stalin they produced the “Product T-26”, and not “Rubber Product No. 2” .......

[cradle]

what nonsense !!!

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Quote: besik

what nonsense !!!

What? In what was the first and there was no second?

[Fikys]

Quote: Cop

Because under Stalin they produced the “Product T-26”, and not “Rubber Product No. 2

And they did it right!

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Quote: Fikys

And they did it right!

Well then, if you follow your logic, then they were “riveted” so that they would burn out or be thrown by their crews in the summer of the 41st ....

[Fikys]

If these tanks had not burned down in the summer of the 41st, there would have been no victory in the spring of the 45th. How can this not be understood, I don’t know, I know only one thing - if tomorrow they attack Russia, you will definitely not be among its defenders.

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Quote: Fikys

If these tanks had not burned down in the summer of the 41st, there would have been no victory in the spring of the 45th. How can you not understand this ...

You are right, I don’t understand .... How could such a number of Soviet tanks not cope with such a small number of German ones. Yes, if they were simply buried along the roads in Belarus, where there were almost no roads at that time, then both German tank groups would have remained in the Belarusian forests ..... Read Mikhailovsky's book "The Thunderstorm Against Barbarossa", in it is written how it was necessary to fight ...

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.... I do not know, I only know one thing - if tomorrow they attack Russia, you will definitely not be among its defenders.

Well, firstly, Russia has already been captured for a long time and something I don’t see you among its defenders, and secondly, my not love for Comrade Dzhugashvilli does not mean that I am not a particle of the Russian world with all the ensuing consequences .

[slasha]

Read Mikhailovsky's book "The Thunderstorm Against Barbarossa", it says how to fight ...

Well, Mikhailovsky is a great strategist! Every gopher in the field is an agronomist!
How was the chief of the General Staff, the greatest "Marshal of Victory" unable to organize the country's defense? And this is a professional soldier! But Comrade Stalin could. In the shortest possible time, he created both the GKO and the Headquarters, organized (Beria did a lot - he did a lot for the country during the war) the evacuation of industry to the east. And the professional military professionally ruined the cadre army, retreating to Moscow and Stalingrad, until the same Stalin issued Order No. 227. If it weren't for him, perhaps the war would have ended in the Urals, and not in Berlin.

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Quote: slasha

Well, Mikhailovsky is a great strategist! Every gopher in the field is an agronomist!

And what is wrong with this book?

Quote: slasha

But Comrade Stalin - could. Created in the shortest possible time both GKO and Stavka, organized (Beria did a lot - did a lot for the country during the war), the evacuation of industry to the east.

If Comrade Dzhugashvilli is so .... wise, why didn’t he play 22.06.41 in 12.00? Evil tongues claim that he was .... incapable of speaking. GKO was formed on June 30 on June 1941 by a joint decision of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.), And not personally by comrade Jugashvilli.

Quote: slasha

And the professional military professionally ruined the personnel army, retreating to Moscow and Stalingrad, until the very same Stalin issued Order No. 227. Were it not for him, perhaps the war would end in the Urals, and not in Berlin.

And who taught these professional military men, put them on posts, awarded, trusted? One famous man of the tale that they say victory is on the side of large battalions. So near Stalingrad our battalions were more German. And order No. 227 did not help much .....

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Evil tongues claim that he was .... incapable of speaking.

Right! Evil tongues still claimed that he led the troops around the globe!
If you look at the so-called. "visit log" of his Kremlin office, then evil tongues stick themselves in, you know where.

And who taught these professional military men, put them on posts, awarded, trusted?

I suspect that he taught, educated, rewarded and nominated a direct commander (chief), sometimes higher, up to the chief of the General Staff (by the way, the so-called Victory Marshal G.K. Zhukov) and the People’s Commissar of Defense.
Or is it ALL only Stalin? Then, according to your logic, it will turn out, as in the saying: "the cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault!"

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Quote: slasha

Right! Evil tongues still claimed that he led the troops around the globe!

Well, as he led the troops, now, in my opinion, they even study in Russian schools. And for your study I can recommend the book by Alexei Isaev "Boilers of the 41st" ....

Quote: slasha

If you look at the so-called. "visit log" of his Kremlin office, then evil tongues stick themselves in, you know where.

I think that he didn’t even hear what visitors told him that day. He was so bad because of the realization that Aloizovich divorced him as the last sucker ....

Quote: slasha

I suspect that he taught, educated, rewarded and nominated a direct commander (chief), sometimes higher, up to the chief of the General Staff (by the way, the so-called Victory Marshal G.K. Zhukov) and the People’s Commissar of Defense.

You understand correctly. And who is the generalissimo subordinate? That's right: the chief of the general staff, the people's commissar of defense ..... Do you remember the name of the generalissimo?

Quote: slasha

Or is it ALL only Stalin? Then, according to your logic, it will turn out, as in the saying: "the cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault!"

Listen, well, you at least watch TV, I recommend the program “Moscow. Kremlin. Putin. " In one of the programs, Mr. Putin specifically for people like you said that the president of the country is responsible for everything that happens in the country, including and for .... kittens .. From books I can advise you to read a book about your idol, called "Crane of any measure." You look nonsense will write less. And then reading your ..... thoughts, I think, do you understand the difference between PPS and PPS .....?

[slasha]

I realized that you can think. This is already good.
In response to your advice, I dare, in turn, advise you to Read the books of Elena Prudnikova .. Not so that you change your mind about Stalin, but as an extension of your horizons. You can also read the works of A.B Martirosyan. Only his syllable is heavy. And I highly recommend not reading the fabrications of liars and traitors, such as Solzhenitsyn and Rezun.
I can assume that you will be noticeably less voiced nonsense and libel of the times of Khrushchev or Gorbachev.
ps And at the expense of the difference, then I know this not from sofa thoughts, but from life. I had to find out.

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Quote: slasha

I realized that you can think. This is already good.

You would at least decide whether I can think or just talk nonsense .....

Quote: slasha

..... advise you to read the books of Elena Prudnikova ..

This is the one who stated in the documentary “The Kremlin Demon” that the “Khrushchevs” were supposedly not Khrushchev’s inventions, and they were invented by Lavrenty Pavlovich back in 1943, and the “bald corn-maker” brazenly stole the know-how of Lavrenty Pavlovich? However, what are your sources ....

Quote: slasha

You can also read the works of A.B Martirosyan. Only his syllable is heavy.

Would you still advise me to read Verkhoturov's book: “Putin Learn from Stalin” ...

Quote: slasha

And I highly recommend not reading the fabrications of liars and traitors, such as Solzhenitsyn and Rezun.

And who did Solzhenitsyn betray?

Quote: slasha

ps And at the expense of the difference, then I know this not from sofa thoughts, but from life. I had to find out.

How is that? The first was held in hands, and the second ..... used? What, however, is your “moral character” .....
Py Sy.You would have to train Stanislav materiel, and only then .... for the Motherland, for Stalin.

[aybolyt678]

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions: - he had the right and acted! I would like to emphasize that I also had a moral right .... After all, if you restore order now and you don’t have to turn it around!

[neri73-r]

Former Investigator for Particularly Important Cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov

- I decided to promote, I’m probably going to politics, or a criminal case for past affairs looms! Apparently, I could not become famous for good (criminal) deeds!
PS, it’s right to say the former investigator of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation!

[Roman070280]

Is there anything to do with this stuff?
"on especially important matters" .. Well, so do what is IMPORTANT !!
I’d better investigate where Gundyaev’s rolexes come from, for example ..

Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

In 2014, in connection with the sanctions imposed against Rosneft, Sechin asked the Russian government for a loan of 1,5 trillion rubles. The money was taken from the National Wealth Fund to buy out new bonds of Rosneft. The company’s 1,5 trillion rubles requested by the company is greater than the total state expenditures on healthcare, education and housing and communal services in 2014. In 2016, the attention of the media was attracted by the huge house of Igor Sechin in Barvikha worth about 3,8 billion rubles. The area of ​​the site is 32 sq. M. The newspaper Vedomosti wrote about the house, with which Sechin did not agree. The official won the trial and managed to destroy the entire circulation of Vedomosti with allegedly false information.

There is no end to the work, but they want the only normal ruler from the grave ..

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Quote: Roman070280

Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

Did you mean this?

Well, well

[Roman070280]

By the way, I first saw this photo .. that kisses the navel ..))
From our neighbors I periodically heard a banter, but did not think that everything was really so moronic there !!
Maybe he could heal him from what disease he wanted ??)

[stay sharp]

Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

Do you really think that he is not in the know?)

[Cop]

Quote: Roman070280

Or he would have found out, and finally told Putin what kind of RFP Sechin had ..

Do you think he is not in the know?

[Serg koma]

Quote: neri73-r

- decided to promote, probably got together in politics,

This is not the first lawsuit filed by Igor Stepanov against the FSB and high-ranking Russian officials. In the spring of 2016, he filed a complaint with the FSB with a demand to explain on the basis of which order in 2008 he, along with his colleagues in the UK, was sent to South Ossetia. Igor Stepanov specified that this happened shortly after, on August 10, 2008, Dmitry Medvedev, who was then president of Russia, instructed the Investigative Committee under the Prosecutor's Office "to document the crimes in South Ossetia for the criminal prosecution of those responsible." The Moscow Meshchansky Court dismissed Stepanov's claim.

In the spring of 2018, Igor Stepanov filed a lawsuit against Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. In his opinion, the officials do not correspond to their positions, since in 2016 they were nominated as candidates for deputies at the head of the list of United Russia, but after the party won the elections, they refused their mandates.

This is his LIFESTYLE Looks like he still worked in the prosecutor's office - in 2016 he is filing a lawsuit for the events of 2008. In 2018, a lawsuit for 2016 - or so dumb, it's too late comes

[Piramidon]

Maybe his ancestors-Bandera from Stalin suffered, and Svidomo relatives in / in Ukraine carries out decommunization. And he feeds himself from some sort of Yankees NGO.

I want to, like in Ukraineso that Stalin’s crime is confirmed

- he said.

[bessmertniy]

And still it is necessary to condemn Ivan the Terrible and put his relics in prison for "life"!

[Tibidokh]

Quote: bessmertniy

condemn Ivan the Terrible

And, of course, against Mamai, Batu and Genghis Khan!

[Serg koma]

Quote: Piramidon

Maybe his ancestors-Bandera

Descendant of repressed priests, former employee of Russian investigative bodies Igor Stepanov

In other sources, there is already a whole platoon of "victims"

According to Igor Stepanov, at least 20 people became victims of the repressive state machine in Soviet times only in his family

Like ours, the Soviet-Russian fosterling. Probably in the pioneers / Komsomol members / communists he went as a "victim" from the Reds. For this, he got a job in the punitive bodies - "lover of truth"

[cradle]

so send it there and dreams will come true

[Siberia 75]

Yes, none of this "Igor Stepanov" and I would never know
In the name of the great comrade IV Stalin, PR is a trifle

[tomket]

Quote: Siberia 75

Yes, no one this "Igor Stepanov" and would never know
In the name of the great comrade IV Stalin, PR is a trifle

I personally do not understand, is this another mentally ill crawled out? The meaning of this statement?

[Baloo]

Quote: pafegosoff

And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

The banker robbed his bank for 100 lard and ruined his bank for 3 years. It turns out he was mistaken in doing business, repented, provided assistance to the investigation. Autoexpert handed down his conclusions on documents falsified by car owners and traffic cops, traffic cops and car owners escaped with fright, the expert was 5 years old (!), The court did not look at two young children. and what is the expert to blame? The surgeon operated, on the 3rd day of the patient’s stomach bleeding, he died. The surgeon is 2.5 years in prison. And if a patient drank his whole life and mocked his body and as a result the body could not stand it, what is the surgeon's fault? In order to divert attention from the robbers and traitors, here you have the affairs of pest doctors, now Stalin is to blame for everything. But I naively thought that Chubais was to blame. No, Stalin and doctors are wreckers. The main thing is that people would not think deeper why we live so poorly, where are our penalties. You involuntarily think ...

[your1970]

Quote: Balu

Autoexpert handed down his conclusions on documents falsified by car owners and traffic cops, traffic cops and car owners escaped with fear, an expert 5 years (!)The court did not look at two young children. and what is the expert to blame?

i.e. he second part?

"RF Criminal Code Article 307. Knowingly false testimony, expert opinion, specialist or incorrect translation
1. A knowingly false testimony of a witness, a victim, or the conclusion or testimony of an expert, a specialist's testimony, as well as knowingly improper translation in court or in the course of a preliminary investigation -
shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to eighty thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of up to six months, or by compulsory labor for a term of up to four hundred and eighty hours, or by correctional labor for a term of up to two years, or by arrest for a term of up to three months.
2. The same acts connected with accusing a person of a grave or especially grave crime, -
shall be punished by forced labor for a term up to five years or imprisonment for the same period. "
Apparently an expert greatly wandered - if the court gave a maximum of 5 years and did not take into account the first attraction, good characteristics and children?
but about "falsified" - he gets money for this and MUST distinguishes truth from lies.
He is an EXPERT, but not blah blah and is responsible (including criminal) for its conclusion

[Baloo]

Quote: your1970

about the "falsified" - he gets money for this and is OBLIGED to distinguish the truth from the lie.
He is an EXPERT, not blah blah and is responsible (including criminal) for his

The fact of the matter is that he bore responsibility, and the traffic cops who drew up fake protocols and car owners did not suffer any punishment. Those. the last one turned out to be an expert who was misled by the presented documents. The qualifications of all these lawyers - judges, prosecutors and the rest of the public depend on the number of indictments - that's the whole truth of life. And the second truth of life is that what they say from above will be so. An example is the Moscow banker "who made mistakes in doing business." We will soon have a trial on one more such, who spent the whole investigation under house arrest. They are also preparing publicity: I made a mistake when doing business. There is no bank, but he was simply mistaken, "do not nightmare business" ....

[your1970]

Quote: Balu

traffic cops who made up the fake protocols and car owners did not suffer any punishment.

-
It bothers me that - the court gave 5 years (to the maximum) - that is, the conclusion knowingly fake. So there were some sort of disassembly as a result of which fake came out. After that, traffic cops and car owners didn’t get any sideways? Oh, vague doubts torment me

By the way, I know firsthand - "there are no direct instructions, orders, plans and other things to the maximum of indictments." Moreover, they fight much more for canceled ones, that is. since no one knows in advance they will appeal and to what level they will reach - just like that ("As much as possible !!") no one hands out accusations
It’s just that justice (according to the law) and justice (according to human concepts) do not always converge at one point, oh not always ...

[Baloo]

The fact of the matter is, since they have initiated "there would be a man, but for what they will always find". Do you know where the expression "absolution" came from?

On Yom Kippur, a sacrificial cattle was brought to the Jerusalem Temple: a ram for a burnt offering, a calf and two goats (Lev. 16). The high priest threw lots and, at his choice, the first of the goats was sacrificed along with the calf (for the sins of the priest and the people), they consecrated the tabernacle with their blood, and the carcasses were later carried out and burned outside the camp; and on the second goat the high priest symbolically laid the sins of the entire Jewish people and led him into the wilderness (Lev. 16: 20-22). After that, the priest and the people who burned the “unclean” calf and goat, and took the second goat to the desert, washed and washed their clothes (Lev. 16: 23–28). Hence the scapegoat.

As we see in practice, the scapegoat was driven out into the wilderness, putting all sins on perdition, and everyone washed themselves.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: pafegosoff

And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

Decided to become famous?

Stepanov said he will seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and is ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights

Well, it’s clear with us, is it tearing into the leaders or something ?!
And in Europe he doesn’t want to become famous by charging the organizers of Bartholomew’s Night:

The Duke Heinrich de Guise and Catherine de Medici are considered the main organizers of the Bartholomew night.
Source: https://mirfrance.ru/varfolomeevskaya-noch/

There he would have found more supporters than in Russia against Stalin!

[Pravodel]

Yes, to rehabilitate Mazepa, to recognize Grishka Otrepiev as the illegally killed tsar of the Russian kingdom, to abolish the victory over the Swedes near Poltava and acknowledge Russia's defeat there, repent for the defeat of the Germans and Swedes on Lake Peipsi A. Nevsky. The defense of Sevastopol in the 19th century. recognize as not correct and surrender to the French, British and Turks. The Poles invasion of Russia in the 16th century. acknowledge as our deep mistake, invite the Poles illegally expelled from the Kremlin to the Kremlin, let them sit. Yes, you can’t forget about Napoleon. Well, after all, Moscow was burnt to the French by the fire. It was necessary to invite Napoleon to Moscow, drink a bitter thing with him and calm down on this ... That is a wonderful prospect ... Whoever wants to, can add a lot more.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: The Truth

Who wants to, can still add a lot.

So the retired democrats will reach the rehabilitation of the Third Reich.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: tihonmarine

So the retired democrats will reach the rehabilitation of the Third Reich.

With the current rampant democracy, political correctness, gender equality and other things, this prediction is short-lived, we can still survive!

[tomket]

Quote: The Truth

to recognize Grishka Otrepiev illegally killed as the king of the Russian kingdom,

On
Otrepyev had already started the topic that he was in fact a terribly progressive ruler, a real democrat, and in general the best thing happened to Russia. If not for the stupid Moscow that had killed him, then Mars and Saturn would have already colonized.

[Basil50]

pofegosov
It turns out that in RUSSIA there are followers of unforgettable goebels.
But this character, crawled out of the bowels of the prosecutor’s office, shows the very quality of this very prosecutor’s office.
I do not believe in his honesty and professionalism or in the honesty and professionalism of his associates in * law enforcement agencies *. I do not believe!

[tihonmarine]

We must be consistent Mr. Stepanov, first you need to institute criminal proceedings against Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich who banned and punished representatives of the Old Believer Church. (Better go to / to Ukraine, you have fellow believers there).

[tomket]

Quote: pafegosoff

And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ..

The mentally ill liberals have a list of claims: Ivan the Terrible for massive repressions and genocide of the Crimean Tatars, Prince Vladimir, for baptism "with fire and sword", Alexander Nevsky for colobractionism, Svyatoslav for the Khazar genocide, Monomakh for the genocide of the Pechenegs or Polovtsians, Ivan the Third for the Tatar genocide -Mongol, Rurik for the genocide of various Vikings (as proof, they will cite M. Semenova's book "The Sword of the Dead", where Lodbrok Leather States (the same one from the series "Vikings") ripped off hot pies from Rurik), Prince Oleg and Prince Igor for genocide Byzantines, Dmitry Donskoy for the genocide of the Mongol-Tatars, Alexander I for the genocide of the French, Alexander II for the genocide of the Turks, Nicholas I in general for the genocide of Europeans (especially the British, but it’s impossible), Brezhnev for the genocide of Afghans, Khrushchev for the mother of Kuzkin ... And only Nikolai II and Mikhail Gorbachev are great.

[bk316]

What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

Yes, exactly, but are you all surprised?
This is surprising only one thing that Hitler’s case is promoted by, for example, the Jew Gozman ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bk316

promotes for example a Jew Gozman ....

Well, right not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!

[Shelest2000]

Something like that. Try very hard.

[cradle]

drip deeper - against Ivan the Terrible and all to the Volga region to carry. However, the totalitarian was Ryzhim.

[Vend]

That's a strange trend. Former Western Officials Becoming Sight, And Russian Former Officials Fall Into Marasmus

[bubalik]

,, These investigators on especially important cases of the General Prosecutor’s Office would be so zealously engaged in modern affairs.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: bubalik

,, These investigators on especially important cases of the General Prosecutor’s Office would be so zealously engaged in modern affairs.

He is a former. He wants not to be forgotten about him. Now it is called "hypanut".

[Andrei Gurov]

Let the current investigators carefully study his former activities, I think there is a lot that can be found to excite. As the investigators themselves say, "there are no innocent people, there are our shortcomings." And the lover of Ukraine will go to Kolyma, beloved by Stalin.

[Baloo]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Quote: bubalik

,, These investigators on especially important cases of the General Prosecutor’s Office would be so zealously engaged in modern affairs.

He is a former. He wants not to be forgotten about him. Now it is called "hypanut".

or paid

[tomket]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

He is a former. He wants not to be forgotten about him. Now it is called "hypanut".

Well, he wanted to hype, but what’s the benefit to him? How does he monetize this hype? He is not a scribbler who sells books or writes articles. He doesn’t seem to be a deputy who decided to raise his rating in bulk and to enter the Duma at their expense. There is either an acute mental disorder (Stalin digs potatoes from him in the garden, drinks milk with sour cream in the refrigerator), or fulfills someone's order.

[Nevsky_ZU]

The generation of bloggers raises their heads. After Stalin, they will swing at everything that is connected with the USSR, including territories.

[Yu-81]

They have long been to the whole of the USSR, not just swinging it, but throwing out billions of cubic meters of feces.

[armata_armata]

Former investigator of particularly important cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov demanded a criminal case against Joseph Stalin

I want, as in Ukraine

Yes, we will fight corruption and the arbitrariness of officials for a long time ...
ps Let me give advice to the trail, if you want both in Ukraine, go to Ukraine and march there with Natsiks, but there’s nothing to arrange

[newcomer]

understandably. another liberals bought. maybe I could collect material on the genocide of the Soviet people by the Hitler Igler? and slovenian, russian people? by the way TFR collects material milking things, would help.

[bessmertniy]

What shake up the story, it would be better to give, or something, would be engaged. I suppose I’ve retired, there’s nothing to do, and that’s a foolish thing.

[Masha]

Even a donkey can kick a dead lion ...

[Pedrodepackes]

I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

In Ukraine, in 2009, a criminal case was opened against Stalin on the fact of mass starvation, where the court pleaded guilty to the political leadership for this, but closed the criminal case because of the death of the suspects.

what's the point then? At the XX Congress of the CPSU they gave an assessment of what was happening then, what else? Only to be promoted?

[your1970]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

In Ukraine, in 2009, a criminal case was opened against Stalin on the fact of mass starvation, where the court pleaded guilty to the political leadership for this, but closed the criminal case because of the death of the suspects.

what's the point then? At the XX Congress of the CPSU they gave an assessment of what was happening then, what else? Only to be promoted?

Is it possible to demand compensation, recognition of everything that he signed illegal ...... there is such a field not plowed for cutting dough .....

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: your1970

compensation may be required

with whom to demand, the case is closed for lack of defendants

[your1970]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Quote: your1970

compensation may be required

with whom to demand, the case is closed for lack of defendants

- with the Russian Federation as the assignee of the USSR, there may be many nuances there ..
As, for example, in Potsdam - when they discussed "Poland to write with or without comma" for an hour
In politics, every little thing plays a role

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: your1970

with the Russian Federation as the legal successor of the USSR

the point is not to the USSR, but to specific people. If it were

Quote: your1970

compensation may be required

then Ukraine would not have missed it. PR pure water.

[tomket]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

what's the point then? At the XX Congress of the CPSU they gave an assessment of what was happening then, what else? Only to be promoted?

And what is the point, for example, to promote blogger Dudya, and then shoot him the film "Kolyma - the birthplace of fear of Kudrin and Dudya"?

[Pedrodepackes]

That is, you are comparing

Quote: tomket

blogger Dude,

with Stalin?
Yes, and who is Dud?

[tomket]

Quote: Pedrodepackes

Yes, and who is Dud?

Well, you laugh in vain. ask the youth if she is looking at Dude, and then look at what Dude is telling to this very youth. I admit that there are different Pozners, Ivanovs and others, the elite pound with kicks in an interview with Dude, in order to increase his rating and status as having the right to shape the worldview of youth. After all, many do not like Stalin's ratings.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: tomket

Well, you laugh in vain

I don’t laugh, I ask, I will be grateful for the normal answer, and not your scolding

[Amateur]

Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces. As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is "very important for Russia."

Former investigator Igor Stepanov, working with Open Russia, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, has filed a lawsuit against the FSB. He asks to be informed why he was sent to Georgia during the war in August 2008.

Former employee of the Investigative Committee Igor Stepanov appealed to the court with a request to the FSB to explain on what grounds he was sent to South Ossetia in August 2008 during the war with Georgia.

Former head of the department of international legal cooperation of the Investigative Committee at the Prosecutor's Office (UPC) Igor Stepanov, who was also involved in the Yukos case, began working with Open Russia Mikhail Khodorkovsky as an expert. This was reported to Vedomosti by Stepanov himself and confirmed in Open Russia.

It is necessary to treat them, wretched.

[Thrifty]

Amateur -9 mm vaccine has long been waiting for such bastards! !!

[Uncle lee]

Maybe that's why?

[slasha]

It is necessary to treat them, wretched.

Put to sleep! You must be more humane!

[evgen1221]

And this miracle does not need to be given a legal assessment of Gorbachev’s actions, otherwise 300 times more people have died and are still dying from the actions of the humpback.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

With the same success, a case can be brought against F.D.R. , he sent all Japanese, including US citizens, to concentration camps during the war.

[hohol95]

The question is -
when will the Prosecutor's Office of Great Britain receive a request to institute proceedings on Cromwell born May 5, 1599 - died September 13, 1658?

[book]

bolsheb initiated criminal proceedings against United Russia for the adoption of laws destroying their own people

[Xnumx vis]

Insanity grew stronger! Quietly rustling with slate, the roof goes slowly ...

[Barmaleyka]

laurels of bald maize do not give rest? !!!

[Masha]

the case is finally terminated for the death of the accused ...

[demo]

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities
- said Gozman.
Kicking a dead lion?
And will this change the country?
You better try to touch the jackals alive!
Al scary?

[tomket]

Quote: demo

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities
- said Gozman.

As an option, they recognize Stalin as a criminal, and then we denounce all international documents (Yalta, Potsdam, etc.) signed by him. Well, we begin to pay and repent.

[demo]

You are right.
As an option.

Stalin - Chairman of the Government of the USSR.
Those. 100% legitimate and competent person.
But the Russian Federation, although the successor to the USSR, is partially.
For everything concerning the other 14 republics is no longer our business.
Although the idea is interesting.
But it hurts a lot of problems.
And we have no such "experts" to bring such dreary events to the end.

[Mountain shooter]

Gozman APPROVED! The rest could not be read ...

[yehat]

Stepanov or a paid troll or a frozen zombie.
If he took up the work to at least study the REAL history, he would see that Stalin simply could not do everything here
That's what the wiki says about the NKVD order (in a very liberoid and therefore already false style)
"On July 3, 1937, Stalin sent a telegram to Yezhov (there is no documentary confirmation), the regional party leadership and representatives of the NKVD, according to the decision of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks No. P51 / 94" On anti-Soviet elements "dated July 2 [13]"
and now the question is exactly where and what did Stalin decide?
There is a decision of the Politburo and there is its implementation by Yezhov. There is no name of Stalin at all.
And such pulls "by the ears", absolutizing the power of Stalin, is just a sea.
People simply don’t want to tell the truth about the structure of power at that time and they are blatantly lying.
And about Yezhov. As I understand it, this is the protégé of the Kamenev group (Rosenfeld married to Bronstein), and not Stalin at all.
I will give a few quotes from this figure

Easy debauchery .. there is a sauce of life ..

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: yehat

Stepanov or a paid troll or a frozen zombie.

you simply do not consider a fool an option?

[yehat]

too much has been achieved for a fool.

[Barmaleyka]

Well, if the fool was helpful, he could

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Barmaleyka

Quote: yehat

Stepanov or a paid troll or a frozen zombie.

you simply do not consider a fool an option?

No such option can be considered in principle: this is a political order.

[demo]

Initiative D. Fool.
This is even worse than normal.

[Lord of the Sith]

Can this former in the yellow house determine haloperidol pin?
Well, she speaks purely as Novodvorskaya.

[Barmaleyka]

such immediately need to be pressed, and then after a fool they turn into a hypnip

[g1washntwn]

Who is for publishing the policy on topcor and freeing topwar for news and discussion of military issues?

[andr1966a]

Even a shak al can kick a dead lion

[Belisarius]

Such insane actions of Stepanov and the "liberals" supporting him (insane both from the standpoint of law and from the standpoint of common sense) will only contribute to the growth of Comrade Stalin's popularity. So he can only be thanked.
And for the current government, such statements are very beneficial, you can point to such citizens and say, if not us, then they. What do you want the power of Gozmans? And that’s all, of course. I’m too .... I’m better now ..

[Chief Engineer]

Would you go on ... comrade Stepanov.

[Gardamir]

on

Let's arrange a debate both in Ukraine, Right on or in.

[Jcvai]

The actions of the legal leader of a country with the support of the vast majority of the population of this country cannot be illegal, and therefore not a crime.
It is strange that the prosecutor's office and others like them did not make counterproductive "knowingly false denunciations" and "slander".

[Alexey from Perm]

Key words: "I want it like in Ukraine", PR clean water on the part of Mr. Stepanov, and of Gozman. Well, or as an option, deep idiocy, in an incurable stage.

[Alexey-74]

It would be better if they brought against Gorbachev and the political elite of the Central Committee of the CPSU, which merged a great country, and against Yeltsin, for the genocide of Russian citizens ....

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

I couldn’t think of anything better or have nothing more to do at work. How to raise matters that will soon turn a hundred years old. Yes, and the state doesn’t have to start such cases. Or what, there are few modern cases where you can make your efforts. At this pace, you can condemn everyone, just from this now change.

[your1970]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

or nothing else to do at work

-he pensioner

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: your1970

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

or nothing else to do at work

-he pensioner

Moreover, where he generally climbs then. It would be better to take up the garden or find a hobby for yourself than to go and write a statement.

[apro]

Reading this news ... you can imagine how hordes of monkeys burst into the command center of the spacecraft and press all the buttons in a row. They pull the levers. They give incomprehensible comedies ...
They want historical truth? I doubt it. The truth is that it is beneficial for the individual at a given time ... and there are no brakes and control ...

[Archivist Vasya]

Well, where did these D. come from here, and they even worked in the organs.
Or maybe we will initiate a criminal case against Napoleon? Or even Khan Batu and Co. For more than 200 years, they have been pressing all the same, these are not links with executions!

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

where did these D. come from here, and they even worked in the organs.

we have such D even led the country

[Archivist Vasya]

Tooting!

[Military Builder]

Legal assessment of Stalin’s actions will make it possible to change the country and obtain respect from the authorities
- said Gozman.

first, get the current authorities to respect the laws, and so "any hare can kick a dead lion"

[Alex66]

Stepanov said he would seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and was ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights. However, the hero, as they said about Khrushchev, declared war on the dead and managed to lose it. Stepanov there too. It remains only to declare a fireplace.

[yehat]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Maybe that's why?

learn the story
Stalin did not punish everyone according to their deserts, and he could not physically "all"
Stalin forgave several generals and officials who could be deservedly put on a stake for what was done (in the rear), and made it possible to continue working.

[Evil echo]

I missed many, and the past is easy to judge, condemn or praise. Here in the modern world it’s getting harder and harder to pick out the truth, and to judge the past ...

[K-50]

The former investigator demanded the initiation of a criminal case against Joseph Stalin, submitting an application to the Prosecutor General's Office and the Investigative Committee. It demands to obtain a legal assessment of the mass shootings and exiles carried out by order of the NKVD No. 00447 of July 30, 1937 "On the operation to repress former kulaks, criminals and other anti-Soviet elements", signed by the Soviet leader.

And this is an investigator, albeit a former?
And what did Stalin order to shoot and punish, fabricated and denounced the case, carried out investigative measures to gather evidence? Finally, did Stalin pass these or those laws? At best, he could put forward or propose something. All decision-makers on the account of the then deputies, various communists from the party committee cells and above.
There were decisions of the Central Committee and other institutions of Soviet power. Stalin did not lead them, did not consider matters, and generally could have no information about this.
So where does Stalin have to do with it?
This is about how now to blame Putin for all the troubles, as if he was stealing budgets, not building and repairing roads. But you never know what can be blamed indiscriminately and from a sore head !!

[Mavrikiy]

Stepanov said he would seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and was ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights.
I want, as in Ukraine, that Stalin’s crime be confirmed

I remember a story for L. Tolstoy’s children about a sparrow who wished to have a satisfying place to live and put all the boys behind bars. It turned out to be easier to put a sparrow in a cage.
It’s easier to send a used one to the Ruin and he will be happy.

[Jeremiah]

Here is a truly outstanding person and leader. How great are his deeds and accomplishments, if the enemies are afraid of him dead, even 66 years after death ... They are even afraid of the memory of him, which they are trying to slander

[The Siberian barber]

Stupid little man .. and stinking occupation. Gozman's "blessing" confirms this

[viktor.]

Let Stepan sweep the yards!

[Ros 56]

But this Stepanov did not study at the Stalinist school and institute; where did he come from, whose, as they say, will be? We are all against repression, but what happened was nothing and you can’t bring anything back. Why are you Stepanov under the Soviet regime silent mongrel cowardly? They gave you free rein, even the Kovtun eagle feels against the dead. Clowns in one word.

[Van 16]

All this resembles mongrels that are yapping at a dead elephant.

[kerxer]

Visual action of the Overton Window feature! First, recognize Stalin as a criminal, then the USSR (Russia) as a criminal, and then annul the results of the Second World War with a revision of the borders of the assigned territories, of course, take away from Russia its "illegal" territories, leaving Moscow and the Moscow region to it! The gozmans only use this opportunity, and their accomplices Stepanovs, for thirty pieces of silver, serve their masters!

[kriwo.alek]

I BELIEVE. The time will come and the punishing sword of retaliation will go over the heads of pro -ovite shit and democrats for the collapse of the USSR, and for the dashing 90s, and of course for Stalin.

[Etienne]

Listen, "ex"! This is on your hands and the hands of your accomplices the blood of millions of my compatriots. It was your government that mowed the people like grass in the 90s. It remains to be seen how much "linden" will be in your accusation, as it was in the Katyn case, when you arranged a trial against the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. I hope I haven't forgotten how your idea ended then? All the steam is gone! In court, you will have to open all the archives, otherwise the defense with good reason will send you to a known address and the court will not take place. However, you are by nature too cowardly to do this. If we admit the incredible, then finally how many documents were destroyed, starting with this bald nit of Khrushchev and ending with EBN. And it won't be difficult to check. Each document submitted by the prosecution will be checked by the defense, involving experts and not the fact that in an open court session you decide to play marked cards. It is possible that a counter-charge will be brought forward and it is not known that you will sing to the court in your defense.
And further! Anger overshadows the mind, destroys the adequate perception of space and time, leaving those who sink to such a state, animal reflexes and instincts. You will not be understood here, sir, and your "impulse" will not be appreciated.

[ZVS]

Where do these ... uki come from the Prosecutor General? Grew up in the country that Stalin built, and now they demand to judge him?

[Evil echo]

Former Investigator for Particularly Important Cases of the General Prosecutor's Office of Russia Igor Stepanov

And why did they turn the disease over?

[Fevralsk. Morev]

To kick a dead lion, a lot of courage is not necessary.

[Local from the Volga]

Consider the case of Mr. Stepanov for libel and Mr. Gozman for incitement-send to the camp! Maybe then all kinds of ex-denyuks will spoil the air and pump out the boat ?!

[Lexa-149]

"Even a donkey can kick a dead lion."
What is the point of this ?! We have no unsolved crimes left ?! He was bored retired ?!

[Ironclad]

Quote: avdkrd

I completely agree. It is more logical to demand criminal proceedings against the living and prosperous:
1. Gorbachev. A country that has collapsed in spite of the results of the All-Union referendum, which reduced the country's defense capability to an alarming minimum .....
2. Yeltsin - skip because dead
3. Chubais is the ideologist and implementer of the privatization program. Openly (on TV) declaring that privatization was a fraud and pursued one single goal - to transfer state property into private hands, in order to exclude the preconditions for the revival of socialism. Thief of All Russia. A participant in the genocide of the Russian population in the 90s, cynically declaring that the death of 10-20 million people who did not "fit" into the market is quite a normal payment for the transition to capitalism ...

Yelets also judge! Stalin is dead longer !!!!

[Gardamir]

The cat threw kittens is Stalin's fault. And where does Stalin, these are his bad people's commissars.
And seriously. But is it time to give a legal assessment of the acts of Yeltsin. At least it's closer and everyone remembers. And there you can reach Rusty.
And spitting in your own story is the last thing!

[yehat]

Quote: K-50

Did Stalin pass certain laws? At best, he could put forward or suggest something.

They are trying to attract Stalin as the organizer of the “system”
but the fact that without repression the population of the country could have suffered much greater losses is constantly taken into account. And it is not Stalin, not Beria, not Yezhov, and not the “kulaks” who are to blame for this.
The results of the tsarist rule, aggravated by the war, the provisional government and repeated foreign interventions, are to blame for this. Moreover, the enemies of society at different times were completely different strata of society - nobles, landowners, capitalists, kulaks, intelligentsia, Red leaders and commanders from the civil era, radical communists, Essers, monarchists, anarchists, Cossacks, nouveau riche during the NEP, just people who were unaccustomed to working and got used to robbing. Because each of them tried to stop society at the point where it was rapidly collapsing. I want to emphasize that we fought against people who contributed to the mass suffering of the population. The actual cleansing of all these forces made it possible to unite society and make a major breakthrough during the five-year plans. And yes, completely innocent people were also quietly destroyed, especially under Yezhov.
If there had not been this purge, it would not have been these “fighters” and “icons” who would have died, but hundreds and thousands of hungry children, sick residents, and simply people killed by bandits.
Those who are eager to judge do not understand what the choice was between.

[BAI]

Stalin should be considered "the organizer of mass murders, that is, genocide of Orthodox priests and other citizens."

According to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, genocide is:

Actions aimed at complete or partial destruction national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such

Article 357.
Is this when priests became a separate religious group?
When the investigator learns to separate politics from the Criminal Code and make statements on the merits, and not on motives, then it will be possible to talk about something. How did he get to the “particularly important thing”? According to the principle “What do you want?”

[Dmitry Potapov]

The dude went to the neighboring country to drink and pick mushrooms.

[Vladimir61]

Another scoundrel decided, in addition to his pension, to suck up foreign grants and to put himself up for an oppositionist auction in the category “Fighter for Democracy in Russia”!

[Million]

There are so many idiots in today's Russia!

[pepel]

These are the same “Yezhov” investigators who built their careers on the executions of their predecessors.

[Catfish]

The man died a long time ago, why disturb his ashes, it’s dishonorable. Moreover, he himself cannot answer.

"... jackals bite the paws of a dead Lion."

[akula]

Ha-ha. They still live thanks to Stalin’s rule, all the plants and factories that they seized were built by him and the case is for him, for the dead, he is so terrible to our rulers. And will they file a lawsuit with the Lord God? Crayons, chalks are our powers that be ...

[Elephant]

The liberals from the fifth column began to stir. It's a pity Stalin is not on them. Gozman and Stepanov would now be working for the benefit of Mother Russia in the uranium mines of the Far North.

[Red shooter]

Yes, but the current rulers must be judged!
And preferably military field...

[koks]

They no longer know how else to erase from us respect for the memory of the great people of our past..!

Such things are done by the “gentlemen” in the NKVD troops..

[Red shooter]

This prosecutor's "lawyer" Igor Stepanov is legally illiterate.
Or he doesn’t know that it is illegal to judge actions in THOSE times according to CURRENT laws; then THEIR OWN laws existed and were in effect.
Or he doesn’t know that in THOSE times all actions were carried out in accordance with the laws in force at that time, and a competent lawyer cannot afford to make statements based on gossip.

[kefan]

Where did this idiot Stepanov even come from? Well, as for what concerns here, no comments.

[koks]

Quote: kefan

Where did this idiot Stepanov even come from? Well, as for what concerns here, no comments.

The Zionists sent... Remember a few years ago the vote was “Face of Russia”?
Stalin came out on top and immediately this project was hushed up by “our media.” And in whose hands is the media?
That's all .. The first "repression of Stalin" was against Trotsky-Zinoviev-Bukharin .. Who considered Russia as firewood in the world revolution of Zionism .. It didn’t work out that time, and the same thing happened in the 90s .. Putin kicked out whom and planted at the beginning of his reign?
This is my opinion and I’m not imposing it on anyone, guys. Just for thought..

[Doliva63]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Maybe that's why?

A late, very distant relative sat under Stalin for 8 years, while still a minor, during the war he stole a sheet of iron from a factory for sale. When asked how you felt about Stalin, you always said - with respect. But they put you in front of him! In all fairness, he said, they imprisoned me for the crime, why blame Stalin if I actually stole. And so there was order with him. The words of a man who lived and sat under Stalin.

[koks]

Quote: Doliva63

But they put you in front of him! In all fairness, he said, they imprisoned me for the crime, why blame Stalin if I actually stole. And so there was order with him. The words of a man who lived and sat under Stalin.

I sense that some “comrade-historians” are hiding a lot from us, and it’s not for nothing that such anger is spreading in all the media, to the detriment of the opinion of the people of Russia!

How familiar everything is and has turned into some kind of game.. Catch it if you can and how much.. Oh Russia!

[Elysium]

Everyone promotes themselves as their conscience allows.

[screw cutter]

And I am for it. I believe that a criminal case was not opened even under Khrushchev because it could have led to real names. The names of informers, careerists, embezzlers who, under the guise of repression, carried out their dark deeds will be revealed. And these people will do everything to prevent the case from opened.

[Prisoner]

So Khrushchev would have been the first informer.

[Prisoner]

Decided to promote himself or gave up. Although most likely the latter.

[Bshkaus]

To be honest, I am not against the fact that those responsible for the execution of my great-grandfather in 1937 were held accountable for at least negligent homicide while on duty on the basis of posthumous rehabilitation. Let the court choose the punishment according to the law.

[slon3377]

Die Stepka! Liberoid unfinished.....

[Captain45]

Stepanov said he will seek criminal proceedings against Stalin and is ready to go to the European Court of Human Rights. According to him, the prosecutor’s office is obliged to give a legal assessment of the actions of the Soviet leader, because without her in Russia "the cult of Stalin is preserved and monuments and monuments are erected to him." (C)
You’ll read this, and then you’ll think: Why don’t our bricks fly? If only one of them would sit where he needed to, and no one would have any problems.

[mark021105]

Another rant...

[Mentat]

Quote: pafegosoff

And then they will require the Prosecutor General to institute proceedings against Peter the Great and demolish all of his monuments, as well as the city of St. Petersburg ...
What's this? Hitler's case lives and wins?

A serious instrument of pressure was found on this character, or mental shifts simply began. It is obvious that our society does not need such “cases” now.

[Mentat]

There is a considerable probability that this former prosecutor has not just gone crazy, but attempts are being made to create artificial tensions in society, there is a search for places in history, culture, relationships where some kind of artificial dispute can be driven in in order to create discord and disagreement, undermine unity, and, at maximum, create warring parties. I think it's obvious.

The reaction of people, no matter what views they hold, and the assessment of such attempts hostile to our country should be appropriate.

[Nitarius]

How could such amazing people work in high positions? .. apparently the data is not friendly to the head....! how .. once again how were such people in power?

[high]

It is high time ....
Stalin is the most cruel and disgusting murderer in world history, on his conscience there are millions of victims tortured in the most sophisticated sadistic ways.
It was necessary to initiate a criminal case when, after the Second World War, by order of Stalin, thousands of World War II cripples who lost their arms, legs, eyesight during the fighting, instead of help, within XNUMX hours they were put in heated vehicles and sent to Solovki and other camps to die.... it is impossible to forget and forgive.

[Witness 45]

Millions of victims and those tortured by the most sadistic methods - this is all in your inflamed brain, you need to be treated by a psychiatrist, and if there were thousands of innocent victims, it was not the fault of STALIN (there was no benefit for him to send Vanya the tractor driver or a good engineer to camp or to the wall) but through the fault of the enemies of his policies, entrenched in state and party bodies, all sorts of Trotskyists who wanted to turn Russia into “a bundle of brushwood for inciting the world revolution,” or simply ideological opponents of the new system. These creatures turned normal people into English or Japanese spies.
And even if not right away, Stalin still managed to deal with this dishonesty later; after 37, many of them received what they deserved. But people like you cannot, or rather, do not want to see the truth, becoming like a dog whose tail was accidentally stepped on by someone in the crowd, and without understanding it bites the nearest leg. Although I suspect that most of those who attack Stalin know and understand everything very well, they simply hate that Russia, which under him, in a decade and a half, despite everything, rose and became a world power, and Stalin for such individuals is simply a symbol Russia, which they hate, is much dearer to their hearts than the Russia of the EBN times, isn’t it?

[tank64rus]

“Stepanov’s demands were supported by the Union of Right Forces.” As Leonid Gozman explained, everything that Stepanov does is “very important for Russia.” Now it’s clear why our liberals do what they want along with such “investigators,” and those who are against they are sitting.

[Blanket]

TV channel /// Rain: “Does Russia need ideology and all these spiritual bonds? To answer this question, Leonid Gozman and Marat Gelman were called to the debate”...

[georggy]

[quoteThe former investigator demanded the initiation of a criminal case against Joseph Stalin][/quote]

To Ward No. 6 Fool to Napoleon.

[serge serge]

"Former" and that says it all. In general: what kind of fagots are not prescribed without psycho-testing?

[Witness 45]

Well, another clown has fluttered out of the same viper where all sorts of gozman-Russophobes breed, it’s a pity that there is no one to cleanse the country of such vipers, now everyone in power is kind, white and fluffy, pluralism is off the charts, every nonentity has the right to shed dirt on lies and slander anyone.

[Hiller]

No brain no Gain!. Poor PR. On the bones. It is not for us to judge Stalin or not to judge him. We are not from that era. To remember and know - yes, for us. IMHO. My grandfather was repressed. On December 18.12.1937, 12.01.1938, he was arrested for the fourth time, and on January XNUMX, XNUMX, he was shot, they proved it in three weeks. He barely exchanged his forty years. I can imagine his horror and state of hopelessness. Then he was acquitted “for lack of evidence of a crime.”

[yakisam]

I hope that those prosecutors who accepted statements from him took away his subscription to explain Art. 316 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - knowingly false denunciation? And I hope he will be imprisoned under this article? I mean - will Stepanov be imprisoned?

[2112vda]

It is necessary to initiate a case against the “tempter serpent”; it is because of him that the fall of mankind occurred. If it weren’t for his vile deeds, there wouldn’t have been any genocides, atomic bombings and other nasty things. Where is the world heading?

[dvina71]

Firstly.. SUCH an order is a phony.. they don’t call orders operational..
Secondly...since when has the Secretary General signed orders to the NKVD?
Thirdly... there was a Politburo resolution... that is, a collective decision... so why blame Stalin...
“The Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) invites all secretaries of regional and regional organizations and all regional, regional and republican representatives of the NKVD to register all kulaks and criminals who returned to their homeland so that the most hostile of them are immediately arrested and executed administratively their cases through troikas, and the remaining less active, but still hostile elements would be rewritten and sent to the regions on the instructions of the NKVD."
Fourthly... this case will not be allowed to go to trial under any pretext... The real order 447 will come up, only for some reason it is dated May 8, 1939 and signed by Deputy People's Commissar Merkulov... and then the whole story with mass repressions will collapse...

[ruben morelli]

Igor Stepanov, este hombre está mas loco que una cabra.!!

[Shuttle]

Oddly enough, I am also in favor of such a trial reaching its logical conclusion one day. Those. before collecting evidence. To solve this t.s. once and for all. problem. So that not a single doll will have the opportunity to insult the memory of Comrade Stalin.
After all, such Gozman-like pugs don’t even hide the fact that they bark at the temporary detention center so that we can have it “like in Ukraine.” Just some kind of litmus test, honestly. Well, they're firing!

[begemot20091]

Day off at the mental hospital.