The dates of the first fully autonomous UAV S-70 "Hunter" flight are announced

Information about the first full-fledged flight test of the Russian strike heavy drone "Hunter". It took off into the air on August 3, and the flight itself lasted more than 20 minutes.

It is noted that UAV control was carried out from the ground. The maximum flight height of the C-70 Hunter was 600 m. He made several overflights of the airfield.

Now, according to the news agency TASSreferring to the Ministry of Defense and industry representatives, new flight tests are being prepared with the complication of flight missions. In particular, the material indicates that by the end of the year it is planned to carry out three flight tests, and one of them should be carried out in a completely autonomous mode - the drone will not be controlled by the operator. In this version, the drone will be fully controlled by the program in which the flight mission is embedded.

Previously (respectively, also until the end of the 2019 year), the “Hunter” will fly into the air in a partially autonomous mode, in which only a few basic commands will be received from the operator by the board.

Recall that the C-70 "Hunter" has a take-off mass of about 20 tons, made in the form of a "flying wing" with anti-radar (reducing the visibility of enemy radar) coating. "Hunter" is designed to defeat a wide range of targets, including fortified points and enemy armored vehicles.

Thus, Russia in a very short time became one of the countries of the world that have the technology to create their own heavy shock drones.

Comments

[Fedor Sokolov]

It is desirable to speed up the process of adopting the Hunter; it is very much needed in Syria for the timely detection and suppression of the artillery crews of terrorists who regularly fire at our Khmeimim airbase. By the way. and what is heard behind the Orion UAV, it seems like it should have been put into service this year. Russia needs strike UAVs as much as air, as much as possible to risk the lives of flight personnel of the Aerospace Forces, where it is possible to effectively work out with drones.

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

it is desirable to speed up the process of adopting the "Okhotnik", it is very much needed in Syria

"Hunter" is more likely a development of key elements for a sixth generation fighter, at least the fact that this drone will have supersonic and the ability to destroy air targets is very likely.

[KCA]

I am also afraid that this is just a flight prototype for testing technologies, the marking hints, S-70, Berkut was also S, S-47, then someone called it SU-37

[Errr]

The Su-37 has never been a Berkut. He has always been the "Terminator" pictured below.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Herrr

Su-37 was never "Berkut"

In-in ... otherwise I fell into a stupor - who was he and when he spread his wings back

 Experimental aircraft Su-47 "Berkut"

https://topwar.ru/33314-eksperimentalny-samolet-su-47-berkut.html

[Errr]

Yes, there, apparently, the KSA mosquito rushed a little. The fact is that before becoming a Su-47, it was called C-37rather than S-47.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: KCA

S-70, "Berkut" was also S, S-47, then someone called it SU-37

Well, you've got the "vinaigrette"! All "to the heap" was mixed!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: sir.jonn

the ability to destroy air targets is very likely.

Destroy aerial targets? Maybe ... I think that, first of all, the Aerospace Forces needs a strike aircraft + scout! And as for air targets ... so back in the 60s, the Americans "ekspiriminated" air battles between a drone and an F-4 using RVV ...

Quote: sir.jonn

this drone will have supersonic

But this is unlikely! Is it only if, after a "deep modernization", practically a new aircraft is created ...

[Alex777]

this drone will have supersonic

The "flying wing" will never have supersonic sound. NEVER.

[alexmach]

Hunter "is more like working out key elements for a sixth generation fighter

Yes, which one is a fighter. Tales of Grandfather Makar. Kakraz for anti-harmony operations this Hunter.

[Klingon]

What supersonic are you? It is subsonic by definition. Technology may work out yes, but for the new PAK YES

[okko077]

We haven't figured out the 5th generation, are you already the 6th? Will this "Hunter" with a weight of 20 tons be controlled within a radius of 150 or 200 km? How about 1 thousand km or 5 thousand km? No way? What the hell is he needed? Run around quietly with this unmanned aerial vehicle ... There are no achievements ... When will conventional UAVs work in real time for at least 500 km?

[Voyager]

This drone has roughly 3 possible modes. Operator control on the ground - time. Flight and work according to a predetermined program with AI elements - two. And the independent work of AI in pair and under the supervision of the Su-57, whose pilot gives key commands - three.

[K-612-O]

Haste is needed when catching fleas, you will remember how many years it took to Su-27, and this unit is much more complicated. The main thing is to get a finished tested sample, and raw, with subsequent endless improvements, like the F-35 or our Tu-22

[alexmach]

and this device is much more complicated

But this is not a fact by the way. Glider - well vryatli super complex. Engines - they should use the used ones, it is logical to have unified with other aircraft, the same SU-57, radar - someone saw the nose of the Su-34. The only big innovation is flight autonomy and maintaining long-distance communications. The first, at the current level of technology, is very solvable, and in many places the problem has already been solved long ago. Communication - this is a serious issue that requires infrastructure.

[Pajamas]

Radar is unlikely, who will make the decision-operator? It is doubtful. They position it as an attack on ground targets and not as a fighter drone, if there is a need for a more logical combination with AWACS, Su-57 or any other external target designation.

[alexmach]

And for ground targets you don’t need a radar at all?

[Pajamas]

Maybe I don’t know something, but call me an ammunition that uses radar for a ground target. A thermal imager is not enough for you, laser guidance, as I understand you are talking about moving targets., An optical station?

[Alex777]

call me ammunition using ground-based radar

Some RCCs do this. Onyx for example. Or Volcano.

[Pajamas]

Quote: Alex777

Some RCCs do this. Onyx for example. Or Volcano.

Where does the carrier radar lead her? Target designation, calculation of the adaptive trajectory of BASU, GSN - bahbadabum, if you are talking about GSN, then we are talking about the need for a radar for a striker. .

[Alex777]

Aiming RCC on radio contrast targets implies the use of an appropriate GOS.

[Alex777]

and this device is much more complicated

But this is not a fact by the way.

Another fact. $ 200 million worth the drone shot down by the Iranians.
More expensive and F-22, and many times more expensive than F-35.
And this is with decades of mass production.

[armata_armata]

Hurry is needed when catching fleas, you will remember how many years it took to Su-27

Then it must be transferred from NAZ, because the plant will not survive for a long time without an order ...

[Valery Valery]

The maximum flight height of the S-70 Okhotnik device was 600 m

600 meters ?! This is about nothing!
We need more than 15000 meters - with such a mass!

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Valery Valery

The maximum flight height of the S-70 Okhotnik device was 600 m

600 meters ?! This is about nothing!
We need more than 15000 meters - with such a mass!

If the task for a test flight required 600 meters, this means that you need to fly at an altitude of 600 meters and nothing else.

[Volodin]

Quote: Valery Valery

600 meters ?! This is about nothing!
We need more than 15000 meters - with such a mass!

Do you, for the first time pushing weights, immediately take two on 32?

[Mestny]

Sofa experts take 320 each at once.
And the fighters with the regime are generally a ton.

[NN52]

600 meters, this is the standard flight altitude in a circle at your aerodrome.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Valery Valery

The maximum flight height of the S-70 Okhotnik device was 600 m

600 meters ?! This is about nothing!
We need more than 15000 meters - with such a mass!

Tests of aircraft begin in general with runs and jumps, and you need to launch it into orbit right away on your first flight.

[Pajamas]

Quote: Valery Valery

600 meters ?! This is about nothing!
We need more than 15000 meters - with such a mass

how is mass related to height? cruise missiles fly low because light, ballistic high because heavy, logical.

[Deathmaker]

"This is such a shitty summer in Russia."
Sorry, could not resist.
AOT: it would be interesting to see the flight of the S-70 as a slave from 57m. It seems as stated about such a goal of the project.

[alexmach]

It’s just not at all clear why to make a couple of airplanes with different speed characteristics.

[Pajamas]

Quote: alexmach

It’s just not at all clear why to make a couple of airplanes with different speed characteristics.

There are two objections
1. Why should they fly all the time in a place, meeting in the task area.
2. On super sound, the Su-57 will burn all the kerosene even without afterburner several times faster, especially since the specific consumption will most likely be very close for both vehicles 0.6-0.7 kg / kg.s per engine, therefore, in standby mode the Su-57 will have the same 0.8-0.9 M, or even less.
PS Today we have a direct discussion

[Dmitry Potapov]

Like it or not, the future for UAVs. The main thing is to prevent UAVs without making a decision. One involuntarily recalls a fantastic story like Ray Bradbury the author, where steel birds with artificial intelligence were set to play the role of policemen.

[Vadim02rus]

Ray Bradbury author

Robert Shackley

[Dmitry Potapov]

Thirty years ago I read, I was mistaken.

[Vadim02rus]

Read thirty years ago

Similarly. And until recently, he also thought it was Bradbury.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vadim02rus

Ray Bradbury author

Robert Shackley

Is there a movie on this work?

[Vadim02rus]

Is there a movie on this work?

I did not see. Yes, I'm not a movie fan. I love the book, but in the paper version, so that it smelled of printing ink

[dauria]

. The main thing is to prevent UAVs without making a decision.

The missiles themselves have long been making decisions. They act in a flock, divide the targets in the order among themselves, re-target the source of interference, replace the downed "girlfriend." Since the 70s of the last century. .PCR "Granite".

[Dmitry Potapov]

The rockets do not return, and the decisions of "Granita" are made in accordance with the program laid down in it, this is a little different than artificial intelligence, perhaps for which in the near future non-standard solutions may be characteristic, something like human actions devoid of logic, but at the same time leading to logical the result.

[dauria]

according to the program laid down in it, it is slightly different than artificial intelligence

Human intelligence is the same program selected by evolution. From reflexes and instincts to the mind There are just so many external (and internal) parameters, and the number of rings of these programs embedded in each other is so great that it seems to you that there is something fundamentally different from you in the car. The same machine, only biological. And the selection of programs is tough - natural selection.

[okko077]

Look at the film "The All-Seeing Eye" and you will receive an answer to all your questions, do not pay attention to some fairy tales ...

[Jeremiah]

Of course, an interesting bird in itself is so similar to PAK DA demonstration sketches. May be at the same time some sort of elaboration of the glider

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Jeremiah

May be at the same time some sort of elaboration of the glider model

Before sculpting in metal (composite), the glider is "blown" for months in a wind tunnel. I believe that your assumptions ... are not entirely correct.

[Jeremiah]

And let me ask, but they blow a life-size model?

[Jeremiah]

Manufacturers have long begun to abandon wind tunnel tests in favor of computer simulation technologies. To do this, engineers model the aerodynamics of the aircraft without creating a physical model. Well, you are still far from this. Although everything can be. A wind tunnel is yesterday, you are our competent and correct.
And suppose that in TsAGI on t 101 you can blow out a model, and then translate it into metal. And since the Russian Federation designs and builds civilian aircraft with difficulty, it is better to run a new strategist in the air on a peculiar model and knock two birds with one stone. And get a new UAV and test the glider. Because for a long time nothing serious was designed and built

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Jeremiah

A wind tunnel is yesterday, you are our competent and correct.

1. Yesterday's, not yesterday's, but the models are blowing. There was even infa that TsAGI checked the layout of the "Angara" and after that made adjustments to its design.
2. 100% guarantee does not give computer simulation. Therefore, this is only the stage of NOCR, but the model is material and more informative about the opinion of some designers of the old school.

Unfortunately, this software did not allow achieving acceptable accuracy (we compared the air purge data in the pipe with the calculations in the program). True, this was before the introduction of the hybrid grid (modeling the boundary layer), but to a greater extent the problem is in the meager number of turbulence models. Available as a rule give an overestimated value of resistance (a problem of existing turbulence models). Disruptions of the flow are also poorly modeled (a common misfortune of RANS calculations).

I am not an expert, but somehow, however. Yeah

[Jeremiah]

In general, we talked to a deaf person with a mute one))), But sharing knowledge and learning something new for yourself is always great. Especially on "Angara". Thanks.

[Professor]

Thus, Russia in a very short time became one of the countries of the world that have the technology to create their own heavy shock drones.

Yeah. He flew on a cord for two circles around the airfield and became a heavy shock drone. Is it too early to drink champagne?

[brr1]

Quote: professor

Thus, Russia in a very short time became one of the countries of the world that have the technology to create their own heavy shock drones.

Yeah. He flew on a cord for two circles around the airfield and became a heavy shock drone. Is it too early to drink champagne?

Our Jewish skeptic. It’s morning in the yard, you have to smile and enjoy life, but here he leads with black colors over the window. What kind of people are you like, do not want to rejoice with others for their successes. Therefore, you probably do not like.

[Piramidon]

Quote: brr1

Our Jewish skeptic.

An ordinary Jewish troll that is used here on Russia and all Russian

[gcn]

I’ll correct not all the people, but only people who are sticking out competence in everything. The professor sometimes trolls or isn’t important from the mind of more than others or less. He is an active Jew, has been writing odes to Israel on the Russian-language resource for so many years using the Cyrillic alphabet, shutting up everyone who isn’t with him I agree this feature is only this person and not the entire population of Israel.

[Piramidon]

Quote: gcn

has been writing odes to Israel for so many years

And how he licks his overseas sponsors ...

[aszzz888]

brr1 (Makar) Today, 08: 57 ... Therefore, they do not like you surely.....

I suspect for sure.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Yes, and our lace is too short, and the "snouts" are not washed, etc. Yes "professor"? And all that we have is bad and crooked, only the cartoon union works ...
Oh you wretched ..... when will you end ....

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Oh you wretched ..... when will you end ....

In the morning ... and so categorically! And if you think about it?
1. The Jews are by no means poor (that is, with God ...) They are just "exiled by God"! (True, the Jews themselves believe that the "chosen by God" is an erroneous opinion!) Therefore, as they left Egypt, they wandered without the Promised Land until I.V. Stalin did not "procure" them a British mandated Palestine ... instead of the Soviet Crimea. Yeah, really ...
2. It is unlikely that the Jews will ever "run out". And it is unfair to hear such a "desire" from a civilian brow! The people, I must admit, are mostly talented, cunning and inventive, since they managed to carry their identity through the centuries under conditions of persecution ... Let them live peacefully. BUT ONLY PEACEFUL !!!
IMHO.

[Lieutenant colonel]

I didn’t mention the commentator’s nationality anywhere.
The nationality of the commentator is absolutely parallel to me.
Do not deny the obvious facts and successes of my country.
Do not forget about where the legs of the UAV and network-centrics in the fighting grow from.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Do not forget about where the legs of the UAV and network-centrics in the fighting grow from.

And where do you think they grow from?

[Lieutenant colonel]

Interest Ask.
Have you heard anything about the ASUV Maneuver, or the BSR Flight, Wing, and the time of their appearance in the USSR Armed Forces?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Have you heard anything about ASUV Maneuver

Respected! We are not at a seminar or standings on tactics and ASUV! And the second one. Why trifle something - the Centaur and Redoubt would immediately have stuck here! And then, about the Tupolev 143r only the lazy one does not know. Stop getting smart: answering a question with a question is a sign of bad taste! As a subject for further discussion, you have ceased to interest me. Litter.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Have a nice one you too....

[Errr]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Do not forget about where the UAV legs grow from ...

Legs, wings ... The main thing is the tail!)))

[Kurare]

Quote: professor

Is it too early to drink champagne?

No, not early. Participants in projects of this kind around the world are doing just that, and in Israel too. It is like having a baby. What it will be in the end is another question. I hope that it will be exactly who I thought it would be. Then, we’ll open not only the bottle, but the whole box!

[Professor]

Quote: Kurare

No, not early. Participants in projects of this kind around the world are doing just that, and in Israel too.

... but without saying such nonsense: "Thus, Russia in a very short time became one of the countries of the world that have technologies to create their own heavy attack drones."
Firstly, not very short.
Secondly, what are these Technology were inaccessible to Russia before this "historic" flight? what technologically new in this papelats?
Thirdly, it will be possible to call the drone shock only after demonstrating it IMPACT abilities.

In the meantime, the drone made a SUCCESSFUL test flight with which I congratulate the Russians.

Quote: Kurare

It is like having a baby. What it will be in the end is another question. I hope that it will be exactly who I thought it would be. Then, we’ll open not only the bottle, but the whole box!

That’s what I wrote about.

[Kurare]

Quote: professor

... but without saying such nonsense:

Everyone has their own perception of the world. For someone and 100 years (exaggerate) a short time.

Quote: professor

Second, what such technologies were not available to Russia before this "historic" flight?

I would also like to know. Yes, it is unlikely that neither I nor you will be told this in the near future.

Quote: professor

Thirdly, it will be possible to call the drone shock only after demonstrating it IMPACT abilities.

Yes and no. If the "Hunter" was originally created as a percussion, then it is so. Again, how much this function prevails in him and how well he will cope with his tasks - time will tell.

Quote: professor

In the meantime, the drone made a SUCCESSFUL test flight with which I congratulate the Russians.

Another thing!
PS: I agree with you on many things. Journalists are now "crumbling". Too much pathos and unprofessionalism. Well, so no one forces us to take everything on faith. Filtering! ))

[Professor]

Quote: Kurare

Everyone has their own perception of the world. For someone and 100 years (exaggerate) a short time.

Naturally. That is why I here express only my personal opinion.

Quote: Kurare

I would also like to know. Yes, it is unlikely that neither I nor you will be told this in the near future.

Neither will tell so there are no new technologies there. There is a new design.

Quote: Kurare

Yes and no. If the "Hunter" was originally created as a percussion, then it is so. Again, how much this function prevails in him and how well he will cope with his tasks - time will tell.

When it "hits" then we will call it shock. In the meantime, this is the maximum platform. Although today it is not difficult to make an attack drone. Even the Persians have them.

Quote: Kurare

PS: I agree with you on many things. Journalists are now "crumbling". Too much pathos and unprofessionalism. Well, so no one forces us to take everything on faith. Filtering! ))

[brr1]

Quote: professor

Firstly, not very short.
Second, what such technologies were not available to Russia before this "historic" flight? What's technologically new about this papelace?
Thirdly, it will be possible to call a drone shock only after the demonstration of its shock capabilities.

Firstly, the character that you had on your avatar said something for relativity, so the size of the terms can only be considered in relation to some kind of scale or schedule.
Secondly, one can talk about the accessibility or inaccessibility of certain technologies only by knowing which ones are applied specifically there and whether a particular state had access to specific technologies at a particular moment in time.
Thirdly, after demonstrating its shock capabilities, we can talk about confirming the capabilities laid down in it and the degree of its compliance with the original TTZ.
And the rest is idle talk for those who are too lazy today to answer the bullshit of the Israeli point of view.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Oleg Sokolov) Today, 08: 39
-9 Is it too early to drink champagne?

It's time !!! ... but not about your honor

Confirmed information about first full flight test Russian shock heavy drone "Hunter".

[crazyzerg]

Take-off just near work. If you take a picture and put it here - it will not be a swindle? ;)

[brr1]

Quote: crazyzerg

Take-off just near work. If you take a picture and put it here - it will not be a swindle? ;)

And what will we see there? Concrete slabs and lights?

[crazyzerg]

video as flies.

[abrakadabre]

If you take a picture and put it here - it will not be a swindle? ;)

You don’t ask us. And in the first section of this very take-off.

[123456789]

Quote: professor

Is it too early to drink champagne?

How long did it take from the first flight of the T-50 to the first serial Su-57? And why will this period be shorter for the S-70 Okhotnik UAV?

[123456789]

The Ministry of Defense published a video of the first flight of the UAV “Hunter”

[brr1]

Quote: 123456789

The Ministry of Defense published a video of the first flight of the UAV “Hunter”

He said "let's go" and washed it down with butter

[voyaka uh]

This is an important milestone. Controlling a tailless flying wing is not easy. Experience will come in handy for the future PAK YES. Perhaps for this they created this drone - to check the calculations for PAK YES.

[Ugolek]

Whoever writes bad things about Hunter, but this is a really big step and only a few countries can afford it, not only financially, but first of all with their brains, so this is a success anyway.

[Elephant]

Quote: voyaka uh

Controlling a tailless flying wing is not easy.

This is the problem. I would like to note that our "overseas partner" has long successfully solved this and other problems on the RQ-170, F-117, V-2, X-47.

[voyaka uh]

Well, Russia has begun to close the gap.

[Elephant]

I'd like to believe in a miracle. With regards to the striped, in this direction they are closely engaged in the four largest and competing corporations.

[okko077]

How interesting! There is no and cannot be a simple drone of this class, the coverage is no more than 150 km, there is no information coverage as such, everything is from the remote control, everything is unique ... And what is being reduced? This is about the Persians and about the Chinese .... You need to be able to distinguish between UAVs and toys with a remote control even if they are shock ... Here the audience is simply funny with their knowledge and news about another toy of 20 tons chews at a time ....