Stand still! Strength as a sign of weakness

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Project "ZZ". The political activity of the protesters in Moscow caused a new wave of Western interest in the Russian opposition. One professor from the United States made a far-reaching conclusion: there is only one step left to instability in Russia, since now everyone is in power for himself, including Putin. Other analysts, already from Europe, point to the “turmoil” at the top of the purges. Indeed, anti-corruption purges, which are very selective, do not at all mean a fight against corruption, but they do indicate a future redistribution of power.





Putin is now "for himself"


Stephen Sestanovich of Columbia University (professor at the School of International Relations), a well-known publicist, wrote an article for the New York Times under the heading Opinion, where he expressed one very original idea.

If the scientist Fukuyama in the last decade of the last century reported the end storiesthen the scientist Sestanovich informed the world about the end of Putin’s forces. At the very least, the professor reported to everyone who was interested that nowadays everyone in the Russian elite is “for himself”, and the protests of recent weeks in Moscow may well become a test of power for strength. And what if Putin makes a big mistake with such a check? But what if Putin has already committed it, or rather, not one, but two?

Apparently, the Moscow protests prompted Mr. Sestanovich to come up with material in a major authoritative publication.

At the very beginning, the author indicated that the demonstrations in the Russian capital are continuing. It is for this reason that Moscow is talking about a new wave of political activity. However, among the Russian fighters for democracy, the road of the past is strewn with disappointments. And they realize that the reins of government are in the hands of Vladimir Putin, and he holds power firmly.

On the other hand, Sestanovich reflects, Putin’s position is not as solid as before. Looking back at the historical past, the scientist notes that since the 1991 of the year when the USSR collapsed, the rulers of the post-Soviet republics were burned with two “big mistakes”, as a result of which they lost their power.

V. Putin and his team also made two mistakes.

Big mistake number one: "brazen election manipulation." It is difficult to anger a people with something as much as this manipulation. Sestanovich points to the madness that gripped the crowds who realized that they were being manipulated. His historical list includes the so-called Rose Revolution in Georgia (2003 year), Orange Revolution in Ukraine (2004 year), Tulip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan (2005 year). Everywhere the cause of revolutions was falsification of the vote count and other fraud in the elections.

As for Russia, there "the largest demonstrations of the post-Soviet period were the protests that followed the famous rigging of the 2011 parliamentary elections of the year."

And this strategy is being modeled again today, when new elections are being prepared in Moscow. Officials have recently rejected the candidacy of many opposition activists who wanted to run for the September 8 election in the Moscow City Duma. Although the protests were not massive, there are still no signs that they have come to naught.

The second big mistake: the impunity of official authorities. First of all, the professor points to "brutality by law enforcement agencies." And here are some examples.

When the ruling party in Georgia lost the parliamentary elections in 2012, the “trigger” was a “viral video” showing the torture by the jailers.

In 2013 and 2014, the Ukrainian crowd, who supported the so-called European future for their country, could have resolved if it hadn’t for popular indignation with a “series of nightly police attacks on demonstrators.”

And last year, there was a “sharp fall in the rulers of Armenia.”

So “Putinism” is being tested for impunity over and over again. In June, the author recalls, the security services brought charges against the famous investigative reporter Ivan Golunov. The evidence was fabricated so clumsily and caused such a storm of criticism that the Kremlin ordered "to release Golunov."

The use of force to disperse the demonstrations, as well as an obvious attempt to poison the prisoner Alexei Navalny, Sestanovich believes, "can lead to such indignation."

President Putin is used to tackling such issues with greater dexterity, the author writes further. There is a “soft dictatorship” in Russia, and Putin “rarely risks his position”, allowing “mass beatings and bloodshed or too obvious fraud in ballot boxes”.

The rigged election results of the 2011 year were “a clear exception,” the expert believes. In addition, "the government managed the consequences quite skillfully: protests were allowed, and Mr. Putin skillfully appointed the well-known human rights activist Ella Pamfilova to the post of head of the Central Election Commission." And she "did not disappoint him," ironically Sestanovich.

So why is Putin and his aides now “overreacting to danger”? After all, “liberal activists” striving to get into the Moscow City Duma are only a small group!

“Knowing Russians,” the professor believes, will answer this question this way. This is a "continuity policy." According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the current president cannot run again: his term will expire in 2024. The prospect is distant, but it is already seriously worrying the Russian elite. Surveys show that public confidence in Putin has declined. His United Russia party is so unpopular that in 2018, it lost a number of gubernatorial elections. The country's economy continues to stagnate. Some analysts argue that Russian officials "at all levels" are asking themselves: is Putin capable of guaranteeing institutional and social stability? Can he ensure their personal safety, as he did before? If it can’t, then giving the elections a free and honest look “seems like a luxury”, which “the regime can no longer afford”.

It is not difficult to understand, the American professor admits, how Putin and his entourage can make a second mistake: to show "the cruelty and impunity that previously brought down other post-Soviet leaders." For two decades, President Putin has been the "main defender of the so-called" power ministries "of Russia. The president was "back." A couple of sleepy agents trying to poison a double agent in the UK? The murder of the famous opposition leader Boris Nemtsov almost right in front of the Kremlin? The president "brushes off." Remember any gross abuse of power by officials (the Russian military, security services or the police): it is likely, Sestanovich believes, that Putin "publicly belittled his [abuse] importance or justified those who stood behind him."

However, today the strategy of “supporting and strengthening the state bureaucracy regardless of the consequences” is capable of giving “Putin subordinates” such confidence in their actions that Putin himself will “regret” it later, the author suggests.

Keeping his own plans for the future (if any) secret, Putin “authorized others to make their own decisions,” Sestanovich writes. And for good reason, the recent Russian study of Putinism has an ominous name: "Each for himself." Here it is, the "formula of instability"! Only one “brutal abuse of power” separates Mr. Putin from “mass anger and upheaval”. If in the current Kremlin really is “each for himself”, the president, no doubt, will understand what this means for him. Now he is “on his own," concludes the American professor.



Stand. Do not move. There is a redistribution of power


Journalist Benoit Witkin in «Le Monde» told the European public about "arrests in the high spheres of the Russian state." Messages about this go one after another. According to the author, the arrests are the backdrop of the “fourth term of Vladimir Putin’s reign”. This is "a new situation that no member of the ruling elite can ignore."

Only in the first two weeks of July did a series of arrests take place: three senior officials were arrested in Dagestan. Then there were searches in the administration of the Voronezh region. This was followed by the arrests of six FSB officers. Further more. The assistant to the president’s representative in the Urals Federal District was arrested, and then the deputy chairman of the board of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation. Searches were held in the government of Yakutia, in the administration of St. Petersburg ... And we are almost always talking about “corruption or economic crimes,” the correspondent notes.

The journalist is convinced that the growing number of arrests of high-ranking officials is explained by the “clash of clans” and “Kremlin policy”. The article states that since 2014, an average of two percent of elite members have been arrested annually. Therefore, a comparison of such a modest scale with the Stalinist purges of the 30 heads of the last century would be a clear exaggeration.

Arrests are defined in the article as a central factor in the “stability of the Putin system”. And it is not without reason that many cases are presented to the general public as another fragment of the “state fight against corruption,” writes the correspondent of Le Monde. But experts do not agree with this.

Valery Solovey, a political scientist, believes, for example, that such a struggle is "too selective to be real." These struggles do not attack the foundations of corruption, and the most senior people in Putin’s circle are not “affected” at all.

Vitkin himself admits that the arrests serve to covertly struggle for resources. A criminal case is instituted, for example, in order to pressure a competitor or seize his assets. This was interpreted by many experts as the arrest in 2016 of the year of Minister Ulyukaev. He was "a victim of appetite" Sechin, believes Vitkin. In his opinion, “clashes at the top” are a reflection of the struggle for power, which is exacerbated with the approach of Putin’s likely departure from the post of president in 2024. For example, the arrest of Abyzov in Russia is interpreted as an “attack on the liberal clan” and a demonstration of the weakness of D. Medvedev, who is unable to “defend one of his proteges.”

But what to do? Stand still.

“In the end, it’s best not to leave the place,” a regional Russian official told the journalist anonymously. “Do nothing: neither bad nor good.”

Stand still! Strength as a sign of weakness


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Useful advice!

To stand still, not to move, not to do anything - these are the components of stability. Not that instead of GDP growth there will be an increase in the number of arrests in the country.
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  1. +27
    5 August 2019 05: 51
    And where is the opinion of British scientists, without them now in any way?
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    2. -14
      5 August 2019 06: 07
      Quote: andrewkor
      And where is the opinion of British scientists, without them now in any way?

      But these opinions are much more interesting to me.

      1. +12
        5 August 2019 06: 18
        How many people have so many opinions.
        In Tashkent, thank God, a long time ago everything was calm. 20 years ago there were explosions of cars and martyrs.
        Islam Karimov plunged the opposition to the root, the new President firmly took up corruption.
        I, a simple person, a senior citizen, are completely satisfied with the current state of things!
        1. +7
          5 August 2019 07: 03
          By the way, after the action in Moscow, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already accused the United States and Germany of interfering in Russia's internal affairs.

          At the same time, Maria Zakharova has already stated - and moreover, it is evident - that the US ambassador to the Russian Federation and the German state newspaper Deutsche Welle personally called on the Russians to participate in the uncoordinated August 3 action.

          It is interesting, what measures will these Russian government take to these foreign instigators of debauchery in Moscow?

          I believe that the government of the Russian Federation will definitely take measures! But what and how ?!
          And then some Russian bloggers with the support of the West are so emboldened that one of them is already called on the protesters to kill the children of riot police!
          1. 0
            5 August 2019 07: 11
            Quote: Tatiana
            that one of them has already called on the protesters to kill the riot police!

            Yesterday in the news they said that they found and opened a criminal case on extremism.
            In the comments they promised to tear him off with what he eats
            1. +7
              5 August 2019 08: 43
              The script is American, mediocrely repeating what was done in the former Ukraine.
              1. -5
                5 August 2019 09: 30
                Quote: Mestny
                The script is American, mediocrely repeating what was done in the former Ukraine.

                Judging by the backing trackers supporting these covens, the scenario is not so disastrous.
                1. +1
                  5 August 2019 14: 54
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: Mestny
                  The script is American, mediocrely repeating what was done in the former Ukraine.
                  Judging by the backing trackers supporting these covens, the scenario is not so disastrous.

                  "Navalnyata" and uninitiated citizens in Russia do not even suspect whom they actually support in the person of Navalny and his entourage!
                  They do not suspect, for example, how Navalny secretly rests abroad for stolen millions? Here, in particular, facts and evidence - see the video!

                  Navalny spent a vacation for stolen money. Proof of. Published: May 29 2019
                  1. 0
                    5 August 2019 15: 02
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Proof of. Published: May 29 2019

                    This is proof for normal people.
                    Now it (the proof) will be zinned laughing
                    Although you are likely not to be touched, they will recoup me laughing
                    1. -2
                      5 August 2019 15: 20
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Proof of. Published: May 29 2019

                      This is proof for normal people.
                      Now it (the proof) will be zinned laughing
                      Although you are likely not to be touched, they will recoup me laughing

                      Yeah, and I got it too. feel Well, what can you do? request As they say, you can’t put a scarf on someone else’s mouth!

                      Each participant "pushes" his truth into the public consciousness, as they say, from his "bell" (or from his sofa). Yes

                      Ha! I would not want everything to work out like Chernomyrdin in Russia again. Ie, "We wanted the best, but it turned out, as always!" wassat or it turned out even worse-as in the Ukrainian Maidan! angry Indeed, it is precisely this option that is being played out by the West in Moscow now!
                      1. -3
                        5 August 2019 15: 56
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Indeed, it is precisely this option that is being played out by the West in Moscow now!

                        And you will not prove to anyone.
                        No arguments that they committed offenses are not heard.
                        After all, the beginning of the Maidan was one on one with the Moscow Sabbaths.
                        In Kiev, Berkut's hands were tied and received a civil war.
                        We riot police and others did their job, so what a screech rose.
                        Already "Russia's best friend" Trump is concerned about the health of the basement.
                        And even this is not an argument for them, the defenders of "onizhedeti", that these sabbaths only play into the hands of zaluzhniki.
                        They do not want to understand that the goal with the State Department is the same, the violent overthrow of power.
                        And they are greeted with hostility. "They are not like that"
                        What did the Maidan from the neighbors lead at point blank
                      2. +13
                        5 August 2019 15: 56
                        Indeed, it is precisely this option that is being played out by the West in Moscow now!
                        But does the grandmaster of long Russia not know how to move chess at all? This is what the West forced him to sign an increase in the retirement age. And then you play into the West’s hands, contrasting Putin with Navalny. They are both from the same team.
                      3. -4
                        5 August 2019 16: 14
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        This is what the West forced him to sign an increase in the retirement age. And then you play into the West’s hands, contrasting Putin with Navalny. They are both from the same team.

                        As members of the "same team", they are very different!
                        Putin, as president of the Russian Federation, acts as the captain of the ship and is not interested in the ship breaking on the rocks. And Navalny is just a cheap rebel who is not responsible for this ship at all. He saw his hearty land with his connections and requires the captain to her a ship with a rich load and moor. And what will happen to the ship, the cargo and the rest of the crew, Navalny will absolutely give a damn and pump up!
                        From this "land" to Navalny, the beneficiaries ordered such an arrival of the ship - so he will receive his bonus from them for fulfilling their order!
                      4. +6
                        5 August 2019 17: 50
                        just a cheap rebel
                        Throw Bulk is a modern Azef.
                      5. +2
                        5 August 2019 19: 36
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        just a cheap rebel
                        Throw Bulk is a modern Azef.

                        In any case, Judas - he is Judas!
                        Or, as they say, not everything is gold, which floats upstream into your hands!
                      6. -4
                        5 August 2019 16: 39
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        This is what the West made him sign a pension increase

                        And so they arranged the coven? belay
                        You yourself have heard that the youngsters "held a meeting" precisely because of this.
                        I didn’t see or hear any demands to cancel the pension reform from them
                        And then it’s you playing into the hands of the West,

                        Clear. Is it I who make every effort for the State Department’s money to forcibly change the government?
                        They are both from the same team.

                        Oh really? laughing
                      7. +5
                        6 August 2019 00: 19
                        Tatyana
                        "Ha! I would not want everything to work out like Chernomyrdin in Russia again. That is," We wanted the best, but it turned out, as always! "
                        Of course I would not want to, but here it’s like a saying: you can’t be a bit pregnant ...
                        You can’t put up with the rudeness of the authorities and the prospector to leave everything as it is, and for the sake of stability not to rock the boat ...
                        But if you do not make any movements, then the stability will probably be preserved, well, the stability that is in the cemetery ...
                  2. +12
                    5 August 2019 17: 15
                    Naive in pink glasses! And where do deputies and members of the government spend their vacations?
                    1. -9
                      5 August 2019 17: 30
                      Quote: Lena363
                      And where do deputies and members of the government spend their vacations?

                      Actually, they get paid, but the basement forgot when they worked
                      And in your opinion to Egypt, Turkey, France, etc. Do deputies and government members travel alone?
                      About 12 million Russians have traveled abroad on holiday tours since the beginning of the year, another 15 million have rested in Russia, said Maya Lomidze, executive director of the Association of Russian Tour Operators (ATOR).

                      According to her, the number of Russians who bought tickets abroad corresponds to the indicator of 2017. It is only about organized tourists, and not about independent travelers.

                      The most popular foreign destinations of this season are Turkey, Greece, Spain, Cyprus. Also among Russians, Tunisia, Bulgaria, Thailand, the Dominican Republic and Croatia were in demand, reports TASS

                      We have such a good deputy corps laughing
                      1. +9
                        5 August 2019 20: 23
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Actually, they get paid,

                        Why do their palaces cost as much as they can’t even earn with their salary?
                  3. +6
                    5 August 2019 20: 22
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Navalny spent a vacation for stolen money. Proof of.

                    For all the rottenness of Navalny (and I do not deny this), the facts against him do not cancel the facts shown to him about the so-called our elite. hi
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                      1. +10
                        6 August 2019 07: 04
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        So you unconditionally believe in rotten bulk

                        I believe the facts. And the facts are that not a single distinct rebuttal was received from the officials on Navalny’s charges.
                    2. -4
                      5 August 2019 23: 46
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      For all the rottenness of Navalny (and I do not deny this), the facts against him do not cancel the facts shown to him about the so-called our elite.

                      And it is precisely for this that rotten Navalny should be elected to the deputies? !!! And what do you personally and ordinary people from this rotten Navalny will have in power? !!!
                      Bulk did not drag out of the treasury just because he himself had no opportunity for this. That's all. And there will be an opportunity - he will disperse to the fullest!

                      You, Igor, did you yourself think what you said? Also to me - "Wedding in Robinovka"! Some robbed, now others - "navalnyata" - will also come to the country and the people to rob!

                      You, Igor, are an intelligent man! Do you not understand who we, ordinary Russians, in the person of Navalny are dealing with? Navalny did not rob because he simply had no such opportunity. And he will come to power - he will also rob the treasury - and even in favor of the West, to which he will owe his rise to power!

                      So they will rob. Wedding in Robin
                      1. +8
                        6 August 2019 07: 03
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And it is precisely for this that rotten Navalny should be elected to the deputies? !!!

                        Tatyana - you are a smart woman! Then why do you ascribe to me what I did not say? wink I know perfectly well who Navalny is, but I repeat, this does not negate the facts of corruption in the upper echelons of power that he is talking about. hi
                      2. -4
                        6 August 2019 10: 19
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And it is precisely for this that rotten Navalny should be elected to the deputies? !!!

                        Tatyana - you are a smart woman! Then why do you ascribe to me what I did not say? wink I know perfectly well who Navalny is, but I repeat, this does not negate the facts of corruption in the upper echelons of power that he is talking about. hi

                        Who denies the facts of corruption in the authorities "above"? !!! We are talking about methods of dealing with this phenomenon and the rotten unprincipled essence of the fighters themselves - i.e. about those individuals who are engaged in this struggle! Why not understand something here?

                        Navalny is the worst continuation of the old in the country, i.e. of what we have now - and even worse! This rotten "pimple" will finally hand over the country to the West !!!
                        Bulk is worse than the Antibiotic from the movie "Gangster Petersburg"!
                        Bulk has grown the umbilical cord to the enemy West, as Hitler had once grown to the US special agents!
                        Everything is being done by the West in Russia now, as was done in Ukraine before the Maidan! And the results will be the same!

                        Navalny is blogging - and let him blogger! But you can't let him into power! Mediaism is not yet a reason for a person to be in power. Our government is full of artists, athletes, etc. opportunistic "media shushary".

                        "Gangster Petersburg", fragment of the film, quote, Antibiotic about the power in the country.
                      3. +3
                        6 August 2019 16: 15
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Bulk is worse than the Antibiotic from the movie "Gangster Petersburg"!

                        For me, he, and Dimon, and many other "successful" officials should stand in a line in front of the firing squad. hi
                      4. -2
                        6 August 2019 12: 07
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And it is precisely for this that rotten Navalny should be elected to the deputies? !!!

                        Tatyana - you are a smart woman! Then why do you ascribe to me what I did not say? wink I know perfectly well who Navalny is, but I repeat, this does not negate the facts of corruption in the upper echelons of power that he is talking about. hi

                        And I repeat that no one denies the facts of corruption in the government "above"? !!!
                        And I repeat that we are talking about hostile, unprincipled and corrupt to the West methods of collaborative-liberoid struggle against this phenomenon on the part of Navalny himself !!!

                        "State of emergency. Investigation": "Citizen Navralny - 2. Transfer of cash". Published: May 29, 2019
                        [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = lyvkJhcavmM]
                      5. 0
                        6 August 2019 16: 21
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        "State of emergency. Investigation": "Citizen Navralny - 2. Transfer of cash".

                        Yes, they posted information about him, and accused of lying. But here's a catch - did he say somewhere that he is poor and his children are studying in Russia? As far as I know, no. Enlighten, if not. And most importantly - in this video there is not one worthy, with the facts of the refutation of his films.
                        Tatyana, understand, I am not a supporter of Navalny, I understand that he is an enemy. But the government itself gave this rogue bought by the USA all the trump cards in its hands. hi
                      6. -2
                        6 August 2019 19: 00
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Video. "State of emergency. Investigation": "Citizen Navralny - 2. Transfer of cash".
                        Yes, they posted information about him, and accused of lying. But here's a catch - did he say somewhere that he is poor and his children are studying in Russia? As far as I know, no.
                        Watch the video again carefully!
                        However, Navalny is constantly collecting money for his "political" project of the financial pyramid, and this is very rich and comfortable life! And hides about his true income.
                        And his daughter just Enrolled to study at a prestigious US university for the 1 course of the 2019-2020 academic year for FREE.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I am not a supporter of Navalny, I understand that he is an enemy. But the government itself gave this rogue bought by the USA all the trump cards in its hands.
                        And what from this? Do you think the people should rush recklessly into the arms of Navalny? I have not lost my mind for this yet.

                        The revelations of the authorities by Navalny by themselves do not mean at all that power should be transferred in the country to Navalny, who is also an even greater rogue with a foreign financial and political organized crime group led by the "shadow" Khodorkovsky!
                      7. 0
                        6 August 2019 21: 15
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Do you think the people should rush recklessly into the arms of Navalny? I have not lost my mind for this yet.

                        No, people should learn homna in varieties to distinguish them from each other, but at the same time not to take them for candy. hi
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                      9. +1
                        9 August 2019 09: 37
                        And between what to choose, for I don’t know much about the varieties of the second product, but this is at least new. And you know that the worst thing - against the background of power, Navalny is not a bad alternative, and that the authority of the ruling elite has fallen so low that it has made people like Navalny a possible alternative, the rotting West has nothing to do with it.
                        When you see officials shouting about the aggression of the United States, NATO, and then they withdraw their money there and teach their offspring there, the logical question arises: Is something unclean, can they deceive us?
                        And even adults who are hard to blame for having been personally ombudded by Navalny, begin to go to rallies, this is an indicator that not everything is good. And the last thing we need so that people go to any rallies simply because they don’t see an alternative, but they want to change their lives.
                        And personally, I believe that this is more likely to be good than evil because a long sitting on the throne deprives a person of a connection with reality.
                  4. 0
                    9 August 2019 09: 01
                    Is radish horseradish sweeter? The old ones are already tired - drag the new one. And the fact that the top of the government sat up and completely lost touch with reality is a fact
                  5. 0
                    12 August 2019 10: 59
                    "Navalnyata" and uninitiated citizens in Russia do not even suspect whom they actually support in the person of Navalny and his entourage!
                    Bulk people do not need to suspect, just as they do not need to be seven inches in the forehead to understand where the money for pizza comes from, because everything is so bad in the country that supposedly the money that freaks donate for them can only come from outside. The only thing that they do not suspect is how they have already got the majority of the people, and what awaits them in the event of their "victory", they will not see laurels, will not only be very painful, for which they are completely unprepared in view of their sweet and holy life, but whoever will be very deadly cold at the bottom of the Moscow River.
                2. 0
                  5 August 2019 23: 00
                  Yes, the brothers on this site feel quite free.
                3. 0
                  6 August 2019 02: 33
                  these minusers are very active and do not reflect the opinions of the people. It’s like dirty foam in the sea.
              2. +2
                5 August 2019 20: 30
                Quote: Mestny
                The script is American, mediocrely repeating what was done in the former Ukraine.

                Why invent a bicycle? request Moreover, "our" government creates all the prerequisites for the implementation of such a scenario. Sometimes it seems that they work in pairs, according to one, more global scenario. hi
                1. -2
                  6 August 2019 00: 19
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: Mestny
                  The script is American, mediocrely repeating what was done in the former Ukraine.

                  Why invent a bicycle? request Moreover, "our" government creates all the prerequisites for the implementation of such a scenario. Sometimes it seems that they work in pairs, according to one, more global scenario. hi

                  That's right - and Nabiulina with her IMF Central Bank of Russia to help them!
                  The Federal Law "On the Central Bank of Russia" must be changed!
                  But doesn’t the Navalny Central Bank of Russia suit Navalny? No, of course!
                  Well and then on the Devil we need it in power - with exactly the same redistribution of the remnants of Russian property and with its speculatively impersonal bitcoins financially?
                  1. 0
                    6 August 2019 16: 59
                    Clearly, bulk does not suit you, so with a clear soul and a clear conscience, you can prevent candidates that you do not like, manipulate, lie, blame all mortal sins. For such a law is not necessary to comply
                    After all, everything goes your way. And the people at the rallies did not go out for bulk and sable, but for fair elections. These are such perverts and masochists, for truth under the batons of the guard they are ready. And she called some scum their guard.
                    Well and then on the devil we need it in power

                    But what the hell in power do you need edro? Let’s not allow them then before the election? In my opinion, in the spirit of your logic.
                    1. -3
                      6 August 2019 19: 38
                      Quote: vasiliev yu
                      Clearly, bulk does not suit you, so with a pure soul and a bright conscience

                      At first, you yourself would have sorted out what Navalny really is.
                      Navalny has no "pure soul" or "clear conscience"!
                      Here's a video to help you!
                      "State of emergency. Investigation": "Citizen Navralny - 2. Transfer of cash". Published: May 29, 2019
                      [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = lyvkJhcavmM]
            2. SOF
              +8
              5 August 2019 09: 32
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Yesterday in the news they said that they found and opened a criminal case on extremism.
              In the comments they promised to tear him off with what he eats





              ..... ay ... where are the defenders of the protests - those who want to marry all good versus all bad, no matter whose money .....
              .... who was supposed to join the scumbags? ... landing ...?
              ... took from Kassad ...
              1. -1
                5 August 2019 23: 03
                The landing will come out with the Rosgvariya, it will come out if necessary. And he will show life hacks to the suffering masochists.
                1. 0
                  9 August 2019 09: 41
                  I think you will be in danger in the first place toga because they can beat
          2. -5
            5 August 2019 07: 16
            Quote: Tatiana
            By the way, after the action in Moscow, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has already accused the United States and Germany of interfering in Russia's internal affairs.

            They said that
            "The US Embassy in Moscow published the walking route, the so-called walk, which was coming on Saturday. Point by point, just by the minute, this route was indicated: what time it would start, what time it would end, and so on," Zakharova said. She noted that only at the very end of the publication there was a request to avoid following the indicated route. “As we understand it, 90% of this information just called people to join this event,” Zakharova said.

            But about the Germans
            According to the representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, an attempt to intervene in the internal affairs of the Russian Federation was also demonstrated by some foreign media, in particular the German television channel Deutsche Welle. According to Zakharova, this media published in Russian a call to Muscovites to go out to protest.
          3. +10
            5 August 2019 07: 43
            Quote: Tatiana

            I believe that the government of the Russian Federation will definitely take measures! But what and how ?!
            And even some Russian bloggers, with the support of the West, were so bold that one of them had already called on the protesters to kill the children of riot police!

            Quote: Tatiana

            I believe that the government of the Russian Federation will definitely take measures! But what and how ?!
            And even some Russian bloggers, with the support of the West, were so bold that one of them had already called on the protesters to kill the children of riot police!

            Yes, only for this one call he must be publicly pulled up on the gallows.
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 07: 51
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Yes, only for this one call he must be publicly pulled up on the gallows.

              I don’t know how about the gallows, but on the scoreboard he will get it for sure.
              His real name and surname are already known.
              1. 0
                6 August 2019 02: 39
                and the inhabitants of Podolsk carefully examined the scoreboard.
            2. 0
              9 August 2019 09: 43
              And with those who “don't have money, but you hold on”, what do you propose to do?
              1. 0
                9 August 2019 20: 57
                Quote: NordOst16
                And with those who “don't have money, but you hold on”, what do you propose to do?

                To begin with - to drive in the neck, and then, when he becomes unemployed, to institute criminal proceedings. To clarify all the circumstances of the stagnation of the economy for the entire time of his premiership.
          4. -2
            5 August 2019 13: 41
            now the Americans and Germans are forcefully waking up.
            Here too. I wonder what measures will be taken and when?
            1. -3
              5 August 2019 14: 34
              Quote: Revival
              I wonder what measures will be taken and when?

              interesting is Maria Zakharova a statesman or not, if she already said then will there be a Russian answer?
          5. +4
            5 August 2019 23: 13
            I remember an episode: during one of the rallies several years ago, I accidentally passed by. The crowd, which consisted mainly of boys, demanded something there. And the devil pulled me to yell: "Freedom to Yuri Detochkin! Yura, we are with you!" (if someone does not remember: these are catch phrases from the movie "Beware of the car.) And the crowd picked up, some strange aunt yelled heart-rendingly:" Satraps! Let the hero go! "Realizing that I had foolishly become a provocateur, I rushed out of the crowd, and from behind was already rushing:" Svo-bo-doo! Free-doo! "
            Then I clearly understood: in most cases, people gather in a crowd not in order to seek the truth, but come for their dose of adrenaline. The same mechanism gathers crowds of football fans and makes them look for reasons for a fight. And someone cleverly uses this herd - at least football, at least rally. And these herds, by the way, often spill over into one another: remember at least the famous events in Odessa.
          6. 0
            9 August 2019 08: 58
            Yes, of course, foreign agents are involved in everything, because it is impossible to allow such that ordinary people took and decided to take to the streets to defend their rights.
            It is impossible to admit that the ruling system is the reason for the impoverishment of the population, because the question arises of a change of government
        2. +30
          5 August 2019 07: 08
          Quote: andrewkor
          I, a simple person, a senior citizen, are completely satisfied with the current state of things!

          And, of us, Russian pensioners, how satisfied with the current situation! fellow
          Nearly twenty years of rampant prosperity. What is normally balanced in the post-Soviet period, the body is able to withstand this?
          Whatever the year, the connection between the party, the government and the people is closer and stronger ... Or rather, the relationship between the authorities and the party of power is stronger ... Well, the people are directly connected with this - by 146%.
          Yes, there are some connections. Whatever the day is new feats in the name of prosperity of the nation. Whatever the year - new achievements in the economy!
          Take, for example, GDP for 2018 - substantial growth! As much as 1% with inflation, nothing at all - 3%
          Or, here, Rosneft in 2018 transferred more than 4 rubles to the budget! fellow And everyone likes it. To those who have listed. But how could they take it even more, but four trillion was enough ... And that 82 working population, together with rich dollar millionaires for the year in the form of taxes sponsored the economy in the amount of 200 billion rubles, was forgotten. However, they forgot about the fact that these 000 dollar millionaires, who, according to various estimates, own up to 18% of all the country's resources, got off with just one and a half trillion personal income tax while withdrawing from the country $ 400 or 000 rubles . belay
          And those who went out to indignant do not like something. The authorities need to be stricter with them. It’s not for you in the Defense Ministry that billions of dollars to be shoved or for billions of rubles to be scribed by FSB colonels. Every sable know your cell ...
          Quote: andrewkor
          Islam Karimov plunged the opposition to the root, the new President firmly took up corruption.

          Vladimir Putin has been fighting the opposition from the very beginning - since 2000. And before him, his mentor, Boris Nikolaevich, fought. As a result of the struggle, the number of dollar billionaires increased from zero to 102, and the number of people decreased by several million. So it continues to decrease. Apparently not everyone was pinched. belay
          1. -13
            5 August 2019 07: 19
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Nearly twenty years of rampant prosperity.

            Absolutely.
            I can add
            * In Russia there is one problem - there are people who don’t remember how much Putin did for Russia: *

            • Over 17 years, Putin increased Russia's budget by 22 times, military spending - 30 times, GDP - 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place),

            • Increased gold and currency reserves by 48 times!

            • returned 256 mineral deposits to the Russian jurisdiction (it remains to return 3!).

            • tore apart the most enslaving “liberal” in the history of the production sharing agreement. PSA (explanation below)

            • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.

            • raised industry and agriculture (for 5 consecutive years Russia has been taking the 2nd-3rd place in the world in grain export, overtaking the United States, which is now in 4th place).

            • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.

            • Well, just a trifle: Putin (he) reduced the extinction of Russia's population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.

            • In addition, Putin canceled the Khasavyurt agreement - by which he defended the integrity of Russia, made public the 5th column of NGOs and forbade deputies to have accounts abroad, defended Syria, and stopped the war in Chechnya.
            The abolition of the PSA by Putin is a great achievement! PSA is an agreement under which America robbed Russia from the 90s and gave loans to Yeltsin in return

            Putin fought for its cancellation for almost 4 years with the help of numerous consecutive amendments. So the abolition of the PSA caused America's incredible hatred of Putin, as he took from them the unhindered robbery of Russia. Therefore, America hates Putin and everyone should know about it.
            1. +25
              5 August 2019 07: 53
              Quote: Lipchanin


              • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.

              You first look at who owns the shares of "nationalized" Gazprom, and then speak.
              1. -19
                5 August 2019 08: 01
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                You first look at who owns the shares of "nationalized" Gazprom, and then speak.

                I speak
                PJSC Gazprom - a Russian energy company, more than 50% of shares owned by the state. It is a holding company of the Gazprom Group.
                1. +16
                  5 August 2019 08: 20
                  [quote = Lipchanin] Stand [/ quote

                  According to completely open data, the "state" owns only 50% of the shares (+1 vote). I put the word in quotation marks over the state because this is a little trick to sweeten the pill. In reality, the state itself, represented by its state agency Rosimushchestvo, already owns not 50, but only 38,37% of the giant’s shares, the rest are divided between Rosneftegaz (10,74%) and Rosgazification (0,89%).

                  Why am I all this? Moreover, in their decisions on GAZPROM Russia is not authoritarian, ours must agree with the other owners.

                  Who are they, these "other owners"? From the graph you can see - this is Bank of NY and some "others".

                  Well, BoNY is clear in what direction - it disguises itself as the issuer of American depositary receipts issued for GAZPROM shares. In order not to puzzle in vain, I will explain - this is a veiled form of transferring state property from the metropolitan colony. Those. 27% were directly transferred to "our American partners", as VVP likes to joke merrily. Why 27? But because from 25 percent there is a "disclosure" of shares, i.e. the owner of these 27% can hack to death the decisions made by the Company.

                  Who else is in the shareholders, who are these "other"?

                  E.ON Ruhrgas AG, Germany's largest distributor of natural gas - 6,5%
                  Deutsche UFG, a hedge fund company, 100% owned by Deutsche Bank - more than 3%
                  NAFTA-MOSCOW, Cyprus company (guess for what and by whom it was created) - 5,3%
                  NAFTA-EAST, the fund, again, it’s not even worth explaining who created it,
                  INTECO (yes, Madame Baturina) - 1%
                  The remaining 5,5% is sprayed with each other, i.e. on the milk to your loved ones.

                  So, Russia, or rather our president Putin V.V. (I’m basically not separating my president for some time now), I’m not able to firmly make an unambiguous decision on certain actions of GAZPROM, but must agree with those who are preparing all this garbage with gas supplies - amers, burghers and 5- The first convoy owning assets located outside Russian jurisdiction and directly managing the concern.
                  1. -27
                    5 August 2019 08: 33
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    According to completely open data, the "state" owns only 50% of the shares (+1 vote).

                    So I said that. Even highlighted
                    I quote the word to the state

                    And I do not take, because this is my State
                    In reality, the state itself, represented by its state agency Rosimushchestvo, already owns not 50, but only 38,37% of the giant’s shares, the rest are divided between Rosneftegaz (10,74%) and Rosgazification (0,89%).

                    Attention, ROS oil and gas. ROS gasification.
                    In order not to puzzle in vain, I’ll explain -

                    But your speculation does not interest me.
                    From the word absolutely.
                    So, Russia, or rather our president Putin V.V. (I’m basically not separating my president for some time now), I’m not able to firmly make an unambiguous decision on certain actions of GAZPROM, but must agree with those who are preparing all this garbage with gas supplies - amers, burghers and 5- th column

                    Well, nonsense laughing
                    Russia has already abandoned the SP-2?
                    So we agreed with Amers on its laying?
                    Have you coordinated the gas pipeline with Turkey with amers? And with China?
                    Tie the ends together
                    1. +13
                      5 August 2019 08: 49
                      Quote: Lipchanin

                      Well, nonsense

                      Well, nonsense is so nonsense. Self-deception is such a thing ...
                      I understand, I would also like everything to be state-owned, after all - "scoop", but ..., alas
                      1. -15
                        5 August 2019 08: 54
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Well, nonsense is so nonsense. Self-deception is such a thing ...

                        Bullshit, this is it.
                        So, Russia, or rather our president Putin V.V. (I’m basically not separating my president for some time now), I’m not able to toughly make an unambiguous decision on certain actions of Gazprom

                        Have we closed the Nord Stream 2 project?
                        but they must agree with those who are preparing all this garbage with gas supplies - amers,

                        When and what did we agree with them?
                        Name at least one gas pipeline for the construction of which we asked the hostages for permission?
                      2. +11
                        5 August 2019 10: 35
                        [quote = Lipchanin]
                        When and what did we agree with them?
                        Name at least one gas pipeline for the construction of which we asked the hostages for permission?
                        [/ quote
                        Your mistake is that you confused soft with white. It is not necessary to negotiate with the United States, but with the owners of shares. It is not the same.
                        Do our oligarchs care about how Russia and its people live? In the same way, the amer magnates do not care about the United States and its people. Therefore, SP-2 is being built. They, the amerskiye owners of Gazprom shares, will receive their dividends from SP-2. What will we get? We trade in irreplaceable stocks, whatever, and rejoice (the poor). SP-2 - Hurray !!!! "Power of Siberia" - Hurray !!! We will sell everything today and give the income to the oligarchs !!! And tomorrow we will walk with a bare bottom.
                        I would only sell cranberries, because in a year the new one will grow. But even that is not in its pure form, but processed, in the form of juices, jams, fruit drinks, etc.
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                      4. -9
                        5 August 2019 11: 03
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Your mistake is that you confused soft with white. You don’t have to negotiate with the USA,

                        Your trouble is that you need to read not from the middle
                        Quote
                        but they must agree with those who are preparing all this garbage with gas supplies - amers

                        What's wrong?
                        Therefore, the SP-2 is being built. They, the Amer shareholders of Gazprom, will receive their dividends from SP-2.

                        And so they climb out of their skin to close it? belay
                        We trade irreplaceable stocks, whatever, and rejoice

                        Why is Nord Stream 1 forgotten?
                        Does not fit into the training manual?
                        I want to remind you that we have been trading in gas and oil since the times of the USSR. And we are his successors.
                        I would only sell cranberries,

                        This is what you do. There will be more sense.
                        Only taxes do not forget to pay
                      5. 0
                        5 August 2019 12: 11
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        What's wrong?

                        All wrong. It is one thing to agree with the state. US agencies, and quite another with private owners of shares.
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And so they climb out of their skin to close it?
                        М

                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And so they climb out of their skin to close it?
                        М

                        Who are the shareholders? Have you worsened this morning? Not good. In the morning. If it’s unbearable, then endure at least until noon.
                        Quote: Lipchanin

                        Why is Nord Stream 1 forgotten?
                        Does not fit into the training manual?
                        I want to remind you that we have been trading in gas and oil since the times of the USSR. And we are his successors. [/ Qu
                        Ha! Was justified! I was against then and now against the trade in raw materials and especially non-renewable reserves. I have not forgotten about SP-1 and the Druzhba oil pipeline. And I have a manual from the people, and you, Lipchanin, have a manual from Sechin and Chubais. As they say - feel the difference.
                        quote = Lipchanin] Only taxes do not forget to pay

                        I faithfully paid taxes for 43 years, now it's your turn.
                      6. -8
                        5 August 2019 12: 37
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Who are the shareholders? Have you worsened this morning? Not good. In the morning. If it’s unbearable, then endure at least until noon.

                        What time are you living in?
                        "SP-2" is being built without any permission from the zaluzhniki and their active opposition.
                        Most recently, the State Department imposed sanctions on firms and participating in this project.
                        What are you telling me more fables about permissions from hostages
                        I faithfully paid taxes for 43 years, now it's your turn.

                        Well, firstly, I'm not going to trade cranberries
                        Secondly, I am already a pensioner
                      7. +3
                        5 August 2019 12: 46
                        Quote: Lipchanin

                        "SP-2" is being built without any permission from the zaluzhniki and their active opposition.
                        Most recently, the State Department imposed sanctions on firms and participating in this project.
                        What are you telling me more fables about permissions from hostages

                        Quote: Lipchanin

                        "SP-2" is being built without any permission from the zaluzhniki and their active opposition.
                        Most recently, the State Department imposed sanctions on firms and participating in this project.
                        What are you telling me more fables about permissions from hostages

                        So you not only drink in the morning, it’s also incomprehensible that you smoke.
                        Who imposes sanctions? The State Department with the president or shareholders of Gazprom? You really do not see the difference or pretend to be?
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Secondly, I am already a pensioner

                        So I am a senior citizen. But this does not prevent me from understanding who actually owns Gazprom. And you, Sechin and Miller, you see, have powdered your brains and the portrait of Chubais in the bedroom prevents you from sleeping.
                      8. -10
                        5 August 2019 13: 22
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Who imposes sanctions? The State Department with the president or shareholders of Gazprom?

                        And they do not obey the laws of the United States? belay
                        You really do not see the difference or pretend to be?

                        I see that the flow is being built and that the USA is against this project.
                        Who owns what does not give a damn about me.
                        If, as you say, there are those interested in Potok, why won't they put Belgium in its place? After all, because of her, construction has stalled. And the State Department made her
                        But this does not prevent me from understanding who actually owns Gazprom.

                        Was it easier from this knowledge? Can you somehow influence the situation?
                        :
                        And you, Sechin and Miller, you see, have powdered brains

                        You see bad to see. Among my friends and acquaintances sei characters are not listed request
                        Chubais portrait in the bedroom.

                        Does he also make decisions at Gazprom? belay
                        Yes and no I have no portraits in the bedroom request
                        And there is no bedroom, one-room apartment request
                      9. +6
                        5 August 2019 13: 45
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And they do not obey the laws of the United States?

                        US law does not prohibit US citizens from holding shares in foreign companies. And if these "shareholders" did not object to the construction of the SP-2, then what US laws did they violate? The President and the State Department have imposed sanctions against the companies involved in the construction of the joint venture-2, and how do these sanctions affect the "owners of shares"? After all, they are not building anything by themselves, they only gave their consent to the construction back in 2000, a worn-out year, when there was no question of sanctions.
                        Quote: Lipchanin

                        Who owns what does not give a damn about me.

                        That is why you do not understand the essence of the issue, but still argue.
                        Quote: Lipchanin

                        If, as you say, there are those interested in Potok, why won't they put Belgium in its place? After all, because of her, construction has stalled. And the State Department made her

                        And this is not their task, I mean the "shareholders", there is a managing director, so he must solve all the issues that have arisen. Their task is to receive dividends.
                        Quote: Lipchanin

                        You see bad to see. Among my friends and acquaintances sei characters are not listed

                        But you play, for some reason, on their side. Sell ​​everything, and as much as possible, and after us even the grass does not grow.
                      10. -12
                        5 August 2019 14: 03
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        That is why you do not understand the essence of the issue, but still argue.

                        What essence? What question?
                        You know, conversation doesn't make sense.
                        I know one thing, Nord Stream 2 is being built without any permits because of a puddle.
                        The US is actively countering this.
                        Everything, no one will convince me of the opposite.
                        But you play, for some reason, on their side

                        I don't play at all
                        I express my opinion
                        Sell ​​everything, and as much as possible, and after us even the grass does not grow.

                        Let me remind you once again, the Soviet Union, like Russia, has been selling and is selling oil and gas. Sales revenue goes to the budget.
                        Other countries also sell oil and gas.
                        And do you really think that one hundred after us, our great-grandchildren will use oil and gas?
                        Already there is a replacement for hydrocarbons.
                        Go better to trade cranberries. I’m sure you can do it better, but leave the questions on how and what to trade to specialists and I assure you that they certainly won’t teach you how to trade cranberries
                      11. 0
                        5 August 2019 16: 44
                        Already there is a replacement for hydrocarbons.

                        Yeah, rapeseed oil ... and what are you burning? wassat Or immediately to nuclear traction as in fallout, so that in any minor accident you can observe such beautiful fungi, and then everything will glow in a radius of 3 kilometers, so this is only a plus - you can save on electricity at night wassat . In general, you didn’t read the manuals of the curator poorly; your kissed leader said bluntly in his last direct speech that he did not see alternatives to gas as the fuel of the future, including for automotive vehicles.
                        Seriously, before you write such nonsense, you would at least wonder what the efficiency of these alternative ICE options is. The law is getting ridiculous, like they survived until retirement, but they’re crazy like those guys from the square.
                      12. -9
                        5 August 2019 17: 23
                        Quote: Dante
                        Seriously, before you write such nonsense, you would at least wonder what the efficiency of these alternative ICE options is.

                        Than to write such a BAD, you need to think a bit and remember that the trains no longer go to the railway.
                        Not the Wright brothers' planes fly in the sky, but jet
                        That ships do not sail. And on submarines are nuclear reactors
                        The hyperboloid was fantastic, now reality
                        Continue?
                        And no one is guilty that they did not learn to see beyond the nose.
                        And I did not say that hydrocarbons will disappear tomorrow.
                        But no one knows what will happen in 50 years.
                        In 61, manned space flight was considered a fantasy, and now few people pay attention to the next crew to the ISS. And only 58 years have passed
                        Tell me about the flight to the moon?
                        Israel is already flying there.
                      13. +5
                        5 August 2019 17: 47
                        Oh, I’m not complaining about eyesight, and my memory doesn’t fail me
                        All of the above, not your achievement, but of the great minds that lived and worked at the beginning of the 20 century. In a world where there was an alternative to the great capitalist project. The fruit of this confrontation was the miracles of technology and scientific thought that you voiced. We parasitize on their legacy, 5 of decades trampling in one place, although we could have mastered the near space for a long time. Yes, the trouble is, there is no benefit to capital in space, at least as long as there are these very hydrocarbons. So, as soon as oil and gas begin to come to an end, then the capital will be combed out: first, it will gnaw over the remains of the resource base, and then the most tenacious, that is, the most cunning and cunning, will decide to look for new energy sources for their industrial enterprises. This has happened more than once in history. Read at your leisure about the period of the New Time, perhaps you will discover something interesting.

                        "Oh, how many wonderful discoveries we have, The spirit of enlightenment is preparing, And experience, the son of difficult mistakes, And genius, friend of paradoxes, And chance, God is an inventor."
                      14. -8
                        5 August 2019 19: 52
                        Quote: Dante
                        All of the above, not your achievement,

                        Not sober up?
                        Where did I say these are my inventions?
                        Yes, the trouble is, capital has no gain in space

                        This was where we had to start
                        Ideology and no common sense and logic.
                        You suffered nonsense about the fact that there is no alternative to ICE.
                        I gave you examples and showed how progress is moving.
                        But where there, And here they dragged ideology.
                        That's when oil and gas begin to end then capital will be combed.

                        And not capital, what will it do? laughing Poke your nose and wait when the capital comes up with something? laughing
                        and then the most tenacious, that is, the most cunning and cunning, decide to look for new sources of energy for their industrial enterprises.

                        So I already told you what they are already finding. And apply.
                        But it looks like you are still in your development at the level of horse-drawn transport.
                        Wait when the capital finds a replacement for you laughing
                      15. +3
                        5 August 2019 20: 36
                        You suffered nonsense about the fact that there is no alternative to ICE.

                        What did the troll settings get off? I told you that you didn’t read the manuals of the curator poorly: your lobbied leader in a direct speech stated bluntly that he does not see alternatives to gas as the fuel of the future, including for automotive vehicles.
                        Or do you doubt the mental abilities of your master?
                        But where there, And here they dragged ideology.

                        One wise man said that the relationship between a man and a woman is already a politician, so why should NTR be a spherical horse in a vacuum?
                        And since when has economic theory become an ideology? Or did the word "capital" really hurt you? Well, go ahead - paint it with gray matter and come up with your own definition of the current socio-political system. Just don't splash me. I'm very scrupulous about my personal moral hyena.
                        And not capital, what will it do? laughing Poking your nose and waiting for when something comes up with capital? laughing

                        No, he will be where he belongs in the normal capitalist world: under the boot of those who have the basic means of production.
                        But it looks like you are still in your development at the level of horse-drawn transport.

                        The aspirations of your president and his retinue will soon reach dog teams. There is no way to approach gasoline.
                        In general, I haven’t talked with Kremlin boats for a long time. Already the rallies of the 11 year, after which the quickly notifying nature of the matifications was replaced by a coordinating one. But the rule of law! Well type. Then there was a joke saying the voter edra, as a representative of non-traditional orientation, seems to be many of them, but they are not among my friends. Glad for you that you still hold on.
                      16. -9
                        5 August 2019 23: 26
                        Quote: Dante
                        What did the troll settings get off?

                        Yes no settings request
                        The opponent has a vision of "night blindness"
                        In the last direct speech, your kissed leader bluntly stated that he does not see alternatives to gas as the fuel of the future, including for automotive vehicles.

                        Once the first time did not reach, I repeat again
                        And I did not say that hydrocarbons will disappear tomorrow.
                        But what will happen in 50 years no one knows

                        For your information:
                        In February, the head of the Ministry of Energy, Alexander Novak, said that the reserves oil in Russia is enough for 30 years, and gas - for more than 100 years, recalls "Gazeta.ru".

                        I said about 50 years. Moreover, you yourself said this
                        That's how oil and gas begin to end

                        Or did you mean that this will happen in many thousands of years?
                        Or do you doubt the mental abilities of your master?

                        I have no owners.
                        But the fact that Putin is smarter than your basement idol is obvious
                        And since when has economic theory become an ideology?

                        Here I am about that. But you managed to stick it there too.
                        Aren't these your words about capital?
                        Here is how once oil and gas begin to end, then the capital will be combed out:

                        No, he will be where he belongs in the normal capitalist world

                        But the fables about "Socialism" and "Communism" have already ended and no one except you dinosaurs already believes in it
                        Only you liberals divide people into castes. "Bourgeois" "Capitalist", "Proletarian"
                        And this is pure ideology
                        The aspirations of your president and his retinue will soon reach dog teams. There is no way to approach gasoline.

                        You will reach the train
                        In general, I haven’t talked with Kremlin boats for a long time

                        So do I.
                        But liberals from every slit tries to spoil
                      17. +3
                        5 August 2019 21: 00
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Not the Wright brothers' planes fly in the sky, but jet

                        On hydrocarbons
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        ships do not sail.

                        on hydrocarbons
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        nuclear submarines

                        90% submarine hydrocarbons
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        The hyperboloid was fiction,

                        unfortunately not on hydrocarbons ... but the point is that, theoretically, they have not yet come up with a coherent source of optical radiation in a chemical reaction)))
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Tell me about the flight to the moon?

                        Speaking of space. From "heavy" chemistry they are smoothly moving ... moving smoothly ... to hydrocarbons.
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        But no one knows what will happen in 50 years.

                        That's why I would like to live now, here and now!
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Continue?

                        Go ahead. Very interesting outlines)))
                      18. 0
                        6 August 2019 12: 50
                        And how has Russia progressed in terms of hydrocarbon substitution over the past 20 years? Where do we have biodiesel?
                      19. 0
                        10 August 2019 13: 03
                        Decarbonization is not related to biodiesel, biodiesel is the same hydrocarbon and please pay attention to the anti-diesel company in Europe
                      20. 0
                        6 August 2019 12: 47
                        Try for yourself to answer one question. Namely:
                        Why does the state own a 50% + 1 stake in oil and gas companies, and not 100%?
                        And where do the remaining 49,9% of income dissolve?
                        Even with this in mind, the budget is only half full from the sale of hydrocarbons, but where is the other half?
                      21. +8
                        5 August 2019 20: 46
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        But even that is not in its pure form, but recycled

                        That's right, like gas with oil in the form of polymers. SW A Lipchanin is so deeply mistaken (of course, if these are delusions, not provocations) that he does not even think about where the profit goes, and where the taxes from this profit go. He campaigned in a neighboring branch for the law, and for any law ... Serfdom or slavery is not important, the main thing is that this law exists. And according to his concepts, the population should obey ANY decision of the authorities. It can be assumed that man built his own world, a sort of spherical horse ... in a vacuum and is trying to saddle him in the pages of VO.
                      22. -7
                        5 August 2019 23: 49
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        SW Lipchanin is so deeply mistaken

                        I don’t understand how laughing
                        (of course, if these are delusions, not provocations),

                        READ, only honestly, to yourself. Why should I provoke you?
                        What is the use of this to me?
                        Minus to get? To go to the ban?
                        What good is it for me?
                        that he doesn’t even think about where the profit goes, and where the taxes on this profit go.

                        How good it is to consider yourself the most intelligent and FSE FSE to know.
                        You can even be proud of others.
                        I know no worse than you. I studied no less, and even more than yours. Just do not stick it out.
                        He in the next branch campaigned for the law, and for any law.

                        What is it dragged to?
                        To cheat on me? So you already poured the ears.
                        And it was not today and not on a neighboring branch.
                        You have to lie even more believable.
                        . Serfdom or slavery is not important, the main thing is that this law exists. And according to his concepts, the population should obey ANY decision of the authorities.

                        But when do you liberalists stop distorting ...
                        I said that the main thing is the LAW and it must be respected. ALL
                        It can be assumed that man built his own world, a sort of spherical horse ... in a vacuum and is trying to saddle him in the pages of VO.

                        So I do not live alone. All normal people live. Normal, these are those who live by the law, observe it.
                        And the abnormal ones, who are liberals, want to live without the law, as anyone wants.
                        Wanted, now I am observing, it is profitable for me. Wanted, do not comply, I need it so much.
                        And do not give a damn about other people.
                        And they don’t think what will happen to them when normal people treat them like they do with others. All spit at one point on the law and multiply the liberal movement by zero.
                        And then they live like in a joke
                        - Mykola, send Muscovites to beat
                        _ And if they are us?
                        - What about us?
                      23. +1
                        6 August 2019 00: 05
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        READ, only honestly, to yourself. Why should I provoke you?
                        What is the use of this to me?
                        Minus to get? To go to the ban?
                        What good is it for me?

                        How do I know why you are doing what you are doing. I myself wonder if this is ignorance or provocation. You convince me that this is ignorance.
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        How good it is to consider yourself the most intelligent and FSE FSE to know.

                        Here I agree. If everyone knows everything, then it’s very right (good) to consider yourself smart.

                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        I studied no less, and even more than yours. Just do not stick it out.

                        I am also very humble !!!!!

                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        I said that the main thing is the LAW and it must be respected. ALL

                        Serfdom, fascist Germany, the Holy Inquisition ... it was also law. And the revolution in 1917 was a violation of the law, and even with a change of order. So the law is the law of discord.
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And the abnormal ones, who are liberals, want to live without the law, as anyone wants.

                        This is anarchists so want to live ...
                        You have all piled up flies and cutlets)))
                  2. -4
                    5 August 2019 08: 47
                    It is clear, then, on the basis of the foregoing, everything else done must also be derailed?
                    What a touching unanimity with the West.
                    1. -18
                      5 August 2019 08: 57
                      Quote: Mestny
                      It is clear, then, on the basis of the foregoing, everything else done must also be derailed?

                      Now, on other issues, "ehspirts will run
                      1. +2
                        5 August 2019 13: 26
                        Yes! Someone insistently minuses you and at the same time does not argue with anything.
                      2. -5
                        5 August 2019 14: 07
                        Quote: Sergey39
                        Yes! Someone insistently minuses you and at the same time does not argue with anything.

                        Already not the first day and on more than one branch.
                        The liberals never bothered with arguments.
                        Do not support their ideas, then the enemy
                        Execution without pronouncement of verdict laughing
                        Minus already without even reading, on the machine, at the sight of one nick
                      3. +2
                        5 August 2019 21: 03
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Minus already without even reading

                        Maybe you shouldn’t blame the mirror?)))
                    2. +3
                      5 August 2019 14: 06
                      Not to derail everything, but to evaluate and make a decision for both good and bad for each fact / action made.
                      Without any west.
                      What such an option did not occur to you? What does this not suit?
                      Without any extremes like "from above" everything is correct or "everything is for the sake of the West."
                      We ourselves can weigh and make a decision.
                      And just such an opportunity and be afraid, straining about the fact that everyone who is trying to think critically is all entirely Western "spies", in the sense of agents
                  3. BAI
                    +3
                    5 August 2019 15: 22
                    Gazprom is wholly and completely under state control. The Chairman of the Board of Directors - Zubkov (with a status above Miller) is appointed by the state. At the annual meeting of shareholders, Miller reports to him and Zubkov publicly gives him instructions. Someone D. Medvedev was once the chairman of the board of directors. Why coordinate with the Americans if Gazprom was ordered by the government’s decision to build a number of Olympic facilities in Sochi at the expense of the company? What kind of Americans would do this if they had the opportunity to block all this? And the same Nord Stream would be covered up immediately, and would not have come up with all sorts of workarounds.
                  4. -1
                    5 August 2019 16: 58
                    The remaining 5% is from the population, individual entrepreneurs or private investors such as myself.
            2. +18
              5 August 2019 08: 59
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Absolutely.
              I can add
              * In Russia there is one problem - there are people who don’t remember how much Putin did for Russia: *

              Remember. We understand everything. I'm tired of it. Enough of this "prosperity". The people have become so rich that, as Mr. Shuvalov said: "It seems ridiculous, but people are buying these apartments." With an area of ​​30 sq.m. The whole apartment. People live so sweetly.
              1. -26
                5 August 2019 09: 04
                Quote: Antique
                Remember. We understand everything. I'm tired of it. Enough of this "prosperity". The people have become so rich that, as Mr. Shuvalov said: "It seems ridiculous, but people are buying these apartments." With an area of ​​30 sq.m. The whole apartment. People live so sweetly.

                1. +10
                  5 August 2019 11: 56
                  “Lipchanin”, what did you want to say with this picture? New York and Moscow - cities of contrasts? Or are Moscow and Russia contrasts? In that case, you write: how many loans were taken by the population of the country, what is the debt, how many beggars? And then after all, you fail Golikova and Rosstat, they claim that there are 500 thousand more poor and more than 20 million, and in your opinion - we all ride cars!
                  1. -11
                    5 August 2019 12: 14
                    "Silvestr", I will not answer any more anonymous questions.
                    You didn’t do that before
                    New York and Moscow

                    Where did you see New York there?
                    Here too?

                    In that case, you write: how many loans are taken by the population of the country,

                    They were forcibly given them? At gunpoint?
                    Did they take a piece of bread? Or without a car completely kirdyk?
                    what is the debt

                    I, that earlier, that now, when I am going to borrow money from my neighbors, the first thing I think is how and when I can repay this debt
                    but in your opinion - we all ride on cars!

                    I have eyes and see traffic jams and foreign cars clogged with foreign cars
                    1. +10
                      5 August 2019 14: 25
                      So you decide.
                      Can Russians buy cars for themselves or not?
                      Are they forced to take loans to buy a car or not?
                      Do they have the right to have a car or have they completely frozen over and want to have a car?
                      And then it turns out weird:
                      Where convenient you say they say they live well in Russia, citing the number of cars as an argument.
                      And in another situation, say that no one asked for loans for the car and could not live without it in a bar.
                      Here it is necessary to decide whether Russians can afford a car freely and they say they live no worse than in "Europe" or is our standard of living much lower and people are justly indignant?
                      And then in one topic the tops, and in the other roots, depending on what moment it is more convenient to refer to, ignoring another
                      1. 0
                        6 August 2019 06: 48
                        And why do you think we will live like Europe? Do we have colonies, or semi-colonies, plowing in vain for us? That’s what we’ll do for ourselves.
                      2. +1
                        6 August 2019 13: 45
                        About the colonies it is interesting: What kind of colonies do Norway, Sweden, Czech Republic, Poland, Austria have?
                      3. -1
                        7 August 2019 02: 43
                        Well, what did the locomotives of Europe not list: France, England? Yes, and smaller deals: Denmark with Belgium? Merikoses also dumped a lot of dough into Poland, not a little. In Norway, somehow, with the exhaustion of offshore deposits, the economic miracle comes to naught. What is it for? Therefore, you should not smear FSU Europe with rainbow colors (they will smear themselves laughing ).
                      4. 0
                        10 August 2019 13: 09
                        And where in developed countries they do not buy new cars on credit, please tell me where they do not buy housing on a mortgage, I am talking about the bulk of buyers, and not about owners of excess profits.
                        Not buying credit for cash
                  2. -6
                    5 August 2019 15: 47
                    Sylvester, do not count you poor - and you will be happy. The majority are just getting poorer, and more and more apartments and cars are being bought, less potatoes are being planted, the number of tourists in Crimea, the Caucasus, Turkey is growing ... Didn't you notice when the men stopped picking up butts and asking for a cigarette? And how the volume of advertising for pet food has grown on sales - for all and all tastes!
                    1. +7
                      5 August 2019 17: 04
                      Quote: Victor N
                      Sylvester, do not consider you poor - and you will be happy.

                      Do you want to say this to Golikova and Rosstat?
                      Or do you forbid me to read newspapers and listen to government members? Or do you also live by the principle “My hut is from the edge, I don’t know anything”?
                      1. -3
                        5 August 2019 17: 26
                        And in thoughts there is nothing to forbid - read, listen. Just offered you a paradigm shift. In Russia, a lot of positive things are happening, I am happy for that myself, and I offer you. And this positive requires protection.
                        And the negative, the scale of poverty in Russia is greatly overstated, including with the participation of both Golikova and Rosstat, who are aware of the realities, but .....
                      2. +7
                        5 August 2019 17: 49
                        Quote: Victor N
                        In Russia, a lot of positive things are happening, I am happy for that myself, and I offer you. And this positive requires protection.


                        So you defend it. Although the success stories are highly controversial. Oreshkin predicts the crisis, Golikova says that the number of poor is growing, and the Federal State Statistics Service claims that my family oligarchs earned another 36 billions, of course bucks. I was very comforted by the increase in pension of 214 rubles, because I have it in rubles, and they have in bucks!
                        Here I am concerned about the future. Do not want to think about what will happen after the decrepit leader?
                      3. -2
                        6 August 2019 01: 41
                        I used to thank for every little thing, even for just a kind word. I firmly know: Only thank you for any help, any gift! Expressing discontent is the height of indecency.
                        I’ve been retired for a long time, but I work - it is in demand.
                        The future of the country is worrying, including the problems of changing leaders and elites.
                        I am glad that the President is looking for and finds new forms and methods for identifying managerial personnel in the country's governance - I think it will be useful. Yes, it’s hard to suggest otherwise.
                        I have a very negative attitude to bald accusations, which are all the time. An unfair accusation can harm a normal person and destroy the prosecutor himself.
                      4. 0
                        6 August 2019 06: 49
                        Are you worried about everyone? Compassionate you are ours.
                      5. -9
                        5 August 2019 17: 36
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Or do you forbid me to read newspapers and listen to government members?

                        But no one forbids to go outside and see with your own eyes everything around, and then think with your head.
                        Why do you see only the bad?
                        What are the eyes so arranged?
                        Or put basement blinders on you like that? request
                      6. +7
                        5 August 2019 22: 17
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        But go out and see for yourself everything around you,

                        I’m on my sixth, my young dad has two young daughters, and I don’t see what to prepare them for. There are no prospects. Judge for yourself - be a doctor? read our media! Yes, they are doctors vomit! ready to take the last money from you and even take away loans! no faith in them! become a banker? no so much money! although romantic. Become a scientist like me? So I learned in Soviet times, they don’t have such prospects, as an engineer? Are they really paid?
                        You better go to the supermarket and create your personal statistics on the ratio of import to export.
                      7. 0
                        6 August 2019 01: 55
                        Do not scare yourself and the girls: not all doctors are hunters - everything depends on EDUCATION. Make sure that the girls read at least a few correct books so that they can decide on a profession for themselves. My eldest grandson (10 years old) said that he was interested in "quantum physics" - he himself fumbles on the Internet. He finds a lot of interesting things for himself, and I buy books on the topic to fix him. But I'm not an expert in education ...
                        The main thing that he sought to convey to the children: ONLY rely on themselves, do not ask and do not wait for a handout.
                        I don’t know how much import is in the store, but I’m sure that their manufacturers could not replace it. And this is not the President, not members of the Government and not officials, but people like you and me.
                      8. +2
                        6 August 2019 09: 28
                        Quote: Victor N
                        it all depends on education.

                        +++ but it’s not just me who educates, the environment educates. What kind of environment? yes advertising from everywhere! And what is modern advertising? - This is a powerful tool for neuro-linguistic programming of the psyche! After all, she does not advertise a product but a lifestyle. Buy and there will be happiness. The very concept of happiness is replaced by the ability to consume. All the time is new. Do you see a lot of advertisements for Russian goods or specialties? in addition, it forms a view of others as a way to earn money, no matter how. A charitable foundation or brothel or deforestation ....
                        Quote: Victor N
                        the girls have read at least a few correct books,
                        Books are not held in high esteem today, modern children are unable to concentrate their attention for a long time, because computer games are designed so that they keep attention artificially. All sorts of points, likes ... This is not in the books.
                        Quote: Victor N
                        The main thing that he sought to convey to the children: ONLY rely on themselves, do not ask and do not wait for a handout.

                        +++ yes yes - "every man for himself!" - Law of the Jungle. The human person is not interested in the state.
                        Quote: Victor N
                        I don’t know how much import is in the store, but I’m sure that their manufacturers could not replace it.
                        You’ll be in the supermarket, ignore the search for the product you need and look at this process (the supermarket is exactly the process) as a CITIZEN of the country.
                        Quote: Victor N
                        And this is not the President, not members of the Government and not officials, but people like you and me.

                        +++ yes yes exactly! for people like us, we need only conditions that presidents and officials should create. For example, for the development of science there must be a demand for it, and this is possible only if production is developed. In turn, for the development of production it is necessary that its goods are in demand, but how can they be in demand if the exchange rate is designed so that imports are always cheaper? a question arises for banks, but if you make banks work for our manufacturer, then there will immediately be war.
                      9. +2
                        6 August 2019 13: 28
                        For 44 years of scientific experience, I had to contact a lot with enterprises, especially in Soviet times. They very rarely showed "demand" - it took a long time, methodically hammering, proving, decisively insisting. Especially stubborn at the middle level. If now it happens to be sent quickly - and is free, then in Soviet times they did not refuse, but for a long, endless time, and no sense is expected, and you cannot leave.
                        And at the level of hard workers, irresponsibility and poaching bloomed very magnificently, a sign of quality to them back ....
                        And none of the top leadership here can help, and should not - this is not their level of competence (this is not a royal matter).
                        As for the ruble exchange rate: you are seriously mistaken - a cheap ruble helps exporters and impedes the work of importers.
                        I believe that in the field of innovation it is necessary to change the psychology of the lower classes, and not to campaign the higher ones.
                      10. 0
                        6 August 2019 14: 13
                        Quote: Victor N
                        As for the ruble exchange rate: you are seriously mistaken

                        +++ I am not mistaken, I am completely on your side, you have not read carefully. It is the cheap, stable ruble that is needed. The term "strong ruble" was coined to fool the mind
                      11. -1
                        6 August 2019 06: 52
                        You better go to the supermarket and create your personal statistics on the ratio of import to export.
                        So what? Import has become really less, if that.
                        Congratulations to my daughters. Teach them engineers. Engineers also normally get, if sensible.
                      12. -1
                        6 August 2019 11: 35
                        Quote: besik
                        You better go to the supermarket and create your personal statistics on the ratio of import to export.

                        disassemble the cogs smile go to the supermarket - the word is non-Russian, the beneficiary too.
                        create a personal ... that is, no faith in official numbers. Import became less ??? Yes, he just disguised himself. Or it is produced on our machines with us, without our duties, engineers and from our electricity, so it’s even cheaper. But essentially the same screwdriver assembly
                      13. +1
                        6 August 2019 11: 08
                        What about daughters: bravo !!! good
                      14. +1
                        6 August 2019 11: 06
                        In your dump, I think, it stuck ...
                  3. -3
                    5 August 2019 17: 06
                    You have already been written to how many officially 20 million beggars in Russia in 2019 in Russia, in the 2000th there were more than 70 million and this was visible wherever you go.
                2. +7
                  5 August 2019 15: 19
                  poor unemployed? .. And now think of what is the specific share of Russian industry in this mess of cars? Where are the Russian advertising screens? Where are the shops selling Russian phones, televisions and luxury shoes? Where are the plants where these carefree work?
                  They all sit in supermarkets and sell junk to each other.
                  1. -11
                    5 August 2019 16: 03
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    They all sit in supermarkets and sell junk to each other.

                    MASTERPIECE logic laughing
                    And where do they take money to sell goods to each other? laughing
                    Now think about what is the specific share of Russian industry in this mess of cars?

                    And now you think, where did the "poor and unemployed Russians" get money for these cars? laughing
                    1. -1
                      5 August 2019 21: 14
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      And where do they take money to sell goods to each other?

                      So they take money from each other ....)))) You have very original concepts about the economy.
                      1. -6
                        5 August 2019 22: 35
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        So they take money from each other ....))))

                        RJUNIMAGU laughing
                        And they live on what? laughing
                        What are they buying new products for? laughing
                        What salary is paid? laughing
                        You have very original concepts about economics.

                        You have more original laughing
                        Some tezhe money go in a circle? laughing
                        Do cars move from salon to salon? laughing
                        Where is the profit? Where, if passed to each other?
                        I did not hear delusional thoughts
                      2. +3
                        5 August 2019 22: 45
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        RZHUNIMAGU laughing
                        And they live on what? laughing
                        What are they buying new products for? laughing
                        What salary is paid? laughing

                        Nu-nu ... I wrote about the horse in a vacuum, not yet knowing that someone could laugh. Now point by point. They live on the profit received from the sale of goods. A new product is bought with the difference between the wholesale price and the retail. Salaries are paid out of their money.
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Some tezhe money go in a circle? laughing
                        Do cars move from salon to salon? laughing
                        Where is the profit? Where, if passed to each other?


                        Let's continue.
                        The money is the same.
                        Cars are moving from the salon to the landfill.
                        About profit wrote above.
                        But how does it turn out? You must read K. Marx. Is there about money-goods-money. But this is a very deep economy)))))
                      3. -3
                        5 August 2019 23: 04
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        They live on the profit received from the sale of goods

                        So ... yes, so that there are no discrepancies, we assume that: profit = revenue - costs (taxes, logistics, rent, etc.).

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        A new product is bought with the difference between the wholesale price and the retail

                        Nope ... this difference forms revenue ... and the purchase of goods is the cost, buddy ... which, as we know, reduces profit ... request

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        Salary paid out of their money

                        A masterpiece! BUT take your money - from the nightstand (C) laughing

                        No, buddy ... salaries to employees are the same costs, see above ... and are paid from the same "profit".

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        You must read K. Marx. Is there about money-goods-money

                        Have you read it yourself? Re-read, you obviously did not understand everything Yes
                      4. -1
                        5 August 2019 23: 52
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Have you read it yourself? Re-read, you obviously did not understand everything

                        I read. And you?

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        So ... yes, so that there are no discrepancies, we assume that: profit =

                        To avoid misunderstandings, it is not worth throwing pieces of text taken out of context. The conversation is about profit from sales. In economics, profit from sales is the resulting indicator of the economic activity of a trading firm. And the fact that you deigned to write only a repetition of my words, in a generalized form. That is, your knowledge of the subject is very, very mediocre. Therefore, a question for you, to which, as usual, you will not answer, which has already happened more than once on all your nicknames. What did you understand after reading Capital? )))
                      5. 0
                        6 August 2019 02: 04
                        Have you both heard about working capital?
                      6. The comment was deleted.
                      7. -3
                        6 August 2019 06: 22
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        what you deigned to write only a repetition of my words, in a generalized form

                        This is not true. Well, okay, let's start, as they say, "from the stove":

                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        They all sit in supermarkets and sell junk to each other.

                        Note - the system is closed (the word "all" is the key). In the limit - two sit opposite each other, and "sell to each other."

                        At the same time, money constantly leaves the system: taxes, rent, and logistics (see above). Therefore the question

                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And where do they take money to sell goods to each other?

                        There is a completely fair question. Obviously, after a finite time the money in the system will run out, and "selling to each other" will no longer work.

                        Any comments?

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        ... a question for you ...

                        Let's deal with simple things for now. Questions, suggestions - later.
                      8. 0
                        6 August 2019 08: 12
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Note - the system is closed (the word "all" is the key). In the limit - two sit opposite each other, and "sell to each other."

                        At the same time, money constantly leaves the system: taxes, rent, and logistics (see above).



                        You and a friend whom you decided to sign up for, apparently studied at the same school))) That he constantly contradicts himself, that you. What do you even give the conditions of the problem you give such curves ... Sitting means two in a closed system, and their money goes .... outside))))) I guess the school wrote off the sophistry exam from a neighbor?)))

                        Now about the money:
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And where do they take money to sell goods to each other?

                        You can answer this question yourself. You and Lipchanin have the same logic. I can only say that money is not needed to SELL a product. Money comes later, after the sale ... T-D

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Any comments?

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Questions, suggestions - later.

                        In general, the day promises to be, since the morning is so cheerful.
                        Threat It’s time for you to give difficult arguments, to look for spelling mistakes and no-good-for-nothing zapisy.
                      9. -4
                        6 August 2019 08: 19
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        Why do you even give the conditions of the problem such curves ... Sitting means two in a closed system, and their money goes .... beyond the limit

                        I did not give the conditions. Read carefully:

                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        They all sit in supermarkets and sell junk to each other.

                        It’s a completely closed system, no? wink

                        Careful, buddy ... thoroughly Yes
                      10. -1
                        6 August 2019 08: 32
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        I did not give the conditions. Read carefully:

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Note - the system is closed (the word "all" is the key). In the limit - two sit opposite each other, and "sell to each other."

                        At the same time, money constantly leaves the system: taxes, rent, and logistics (see above).


                        We no longer read ourselves ... We only write to ourselves. We take a piece of text from someone, add our arguments, and assign it to the third. And then we declare that I am not me and the house is not mine. Listen to the Dear "Cat Man Null", the disrespectful "consultant" and the absolutely disrespectful "G. Jack" in building logical chains. You can practice with someone of your level. And my education is only three classes of parish. Therefore, I write with errors and I do not understand everything from your written, it is not worth wasting your precious (for you) time on me. I will never rise to you ... Glory to the holy rasp.
                        Threat And Marx, Karl, it would be necessary to read in order to speak objectively and not from other people's words)))))
                      11. 0
                        6 August 2019 09: 57
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        We take a piece of text from someone, attach our arguments, and ascribe to the third

                        You described your manner of "work" wonderfully. But this is beside the point.

                        So here, and Lipchanin, and I - answered the task proposed by the comrade aybolyt678. And for some reason you got into clever ... well, as usual, in short wink

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        I have only three classes of parish education

                        This is not my sadness, this is your sadness (s) request
                      12. -2
                        6 August 2019 11: 48
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        So here, both Lipchanin and I - answered the task proposed by comrade aybolyt678. And for some reason you got into clever ...

                        Duc passing by, I heard that when asked where the phone is located, you and another user told how to salt cabbage. My natural modesty (and I already mentioned this in my message to the Lipchanin) did not allow me to pass by, that's all. But you have deviated from the topic!))) However, as always ... the main thing is to say something and put a minus))))
                      13. 0
                        6 August 2019 11: 58
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        You dodged the topic

                        laughing good laughing

                        Which ??

                        Quote: Harry.km
                        My natural modesty

                        Yeah. You will not praise yourself - you will wait FIG Yes
                      14. -2
                        6 August 2019 12: 00
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        You dodged the topic

                        laughing good laughing

                        Which ??

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Let's deal with simple things for now. Questions, suggestions - later.

                        Figured out?
                      15. 0
                        6 August 2019 12: 15
                        Quote: Harry.km
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Let's deal with simple things for now. Questions, suggestions - then

                        Figured out?

                        I - for a long time. You are still not. How come - drop in.

                        And, yes, again: even if the original problem says "the fish was sitting on a tree", it is necessary to solve this problem. And not the one that you thought of yourself Yes
                      16. -2
                        6 August 2019 12: 20
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        And, yes, once again: even if the original problem says "a fish was sitting on a tree", this is the problem that needs to be solved.

                        That's what I told you about ... Now they really figured it out. So I wasted my time in vain. No questions or suggestions? I am glad! Thank you for participating. There will be difficulties, you know how to find me))))
                      17. 0
                        6 August 2019 06: 57
                        This is not your original-shtatovskie. But a little remark, there money is released "into the world." And while this will last, it will be possible to live in an economy where most of it is the service sector. A normal economy (and in the Russian Federation it is already more or less normal) would be bent.
                    2. +1
                      5 August 2019 22: 08
                      Dear Sergey! you are cunning, or you don’t see obvious things, because gas can be added to oil !. By the way, a year ago I was just as much a fan of Putin as you. I justified him and hoped for a miracle.
                      to your question
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Where did the "poor and unemployed Russians" get the money for these cars?
                      I answer, but please be patient .. You see, the entire financial structure of our country is tied to the Central Bank gold reserves. The Central Bank's main obligation to the IMF is to ensure that the amount of cash in the country does not exceed the reserves of these same reserves. Gold reserves are formed from foreign exchange earnings, i.e. from energy trade. The exchange rate is set in such a way that producing something is disadvantageous. It is more profitable to definitely buy everything abroad. Go to any supermarket, look at people with import carts, and think about whether you can trust our official data on the sale of resources abroad with such a huge amount of imports. By the way, in our North, many American and other firms produce oil. Interestingly, this oil is included in your statistics? So, Moscow stands on the banks of a wide financial river that gathers from the brooks of the regions. More than half of the automobile splendor in this photo is dumped cars, used, etc. .. Government employees are sitting on them, those who serve them, those who somehow cling to those financial flows, and these are bankers of different levels, entrepreneurs buying imports and selling it to us and their employees. I am sure that the design engineers in these cars are ZERO! percent.
                      The level of industrial development of the country is determined by the level of development of high-tech industries. The introduction of science into production should be short and widespread. Where do we have that science and that production? I would be grateful if you dissuade me.
                      1. -4
                        5 August 2019 22: 49
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        I answer but please be patient.

                        Stock up
                        Where do the "poor and unemployed" get their money?
                        In the water that is poured not a word about it request
                        and these are bankers of different levels, entrepreneurs buying imports and selling it to us and their employees.

                        And are they all beggars? belay
                        I am sure that the design engineers in these cars are ZERO! percent.

                        Millions of cars on the streets and in all bankers and entrepreneurs? belay
                        I live in a house with 16 apartments. 16 families.
                        10 families have cars.
                        Of these people, there is more than one banker and entrepreneur !!!!
                        In 9 families, everyone works in various industries. In one family, the husband is a worker, the wife is a teacher.
                        Do you have how many friends and acquaintances have cars?
                        Are they all bankers and entrepreneurs?
                        I would be grateful if you dissuade me.

                        It's enough?
                        The level of industrial development of the country is determined by the level of development of high-tech industries. The introduction of science into production should be short and widespread. Where do we have that science and that production?

                        In the garden of quinoa, and in Kiev, uncle
                        How does this relate to my question, where do u Where do the "poor and the unemployed" get their money? belay
                      2. -1
                        5 August 2019 23: 36
                        you read inattentively. The well-being of Moscow consists of the trouble of the regions. Is it clear now. And all this splendor that you admire will end when oil and gas run out. People feel it intuitively and therefore go to the streets
                      3. 0
                        7 August 2019 23: 01
                        The well-being of Moscow consists of the trouble of the regions. Is it clear now. And all this splendor that you admire will end when oil and gas run out. People feel it intuitively and therefore go to the streets

                        And have you been to all regions (or information) to judge the well-being of citizens in all these regions?
                        I would not dare to "judge" so.
                        And yes, by the way, in how many regions do people take to the streets (I mean the number of these regions) and as a percentage of the whole country ??
                  2. -3
                    5 August 2019 17: 09
                    A decent share AvtoVAZ began to steer, and all these machines need to be serviced, and this is a huge market for services.
                    1. -10
                      5 August 2019 17: 39
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      Yes, and you need to service all these machines, and this is a huge market for services.

                      And jobs.
                      From "Autoservices" and "Tires" dazzles in the eyes.
                      I'm not talking about car dealerships.
                      And this is in "poor" Russia.
                      At a loss to ourselves all this was revealed laughing
                  3. 0
                    10 August 2019 13: 12
                    Europe also does not produce computers, gadgets, televisions, etc. mass junk is sewn in China and Turkey.
                3. -4
                  5 August 2019 15: 38
                  Lipchanin! Thank you for the picture, and even more for a sober look and good judgment! But there are like-minded people, thank God, and obscurantists are doomed.
                  1. +1
                    5 August 2019 17: 06
                    Quote: Victor N
                    Lipchanin! Thank you for the picture, and even more for a sober look and good judgment! But there are like-minded people, thank God, and obscurantists are doomed.

                    laughing laughing
                    No words, collective Oreshkin
                    1. -6
                      5 August 2019 17: 41
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      No words, collective Oreshkin

                      Almost constantly disagree with your opinion.
                      But he didn’t pass on personalities and insults
                      Have you lost your nerves?
                      Are the arguments over?
                      1. 0
                        5 August 2019 21: 01
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        But he didn’t pass on personalities and insults

                        where did you find him? laughing
                      2. -7
                        5 August 2019 22: 51
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        where did you find him?

                        Sometimes you need to relax from liberalism ... Individual Dubovato-Zheludev
                      3. -2
                        5 August 2019 23: 10
                        Yes, he apparently hates Oreshkin))) offended the authorities, so to speak! Ayayay
                    2. +1
                      5 August 2019 21: 00
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Quote: Victor N
                      Lipchanin! Thank you for the picture, and even more for a sober look and good judgment! But there are like-minded people, thank God, and obscurantists are doomed.

                      laughing laughing
                      No words, collective Oreshkin

                      Sylvester, well, not solid, not correct, and not related to the topic negative
            3. +2
              5 August 2019 14: 52
              Quote: Lipchanin
              For 17 years, Putin has increased Russia's budget 22 times

              this despite the fact that prices rose 10 times!
              Quote: Lipchanin
              GDP - 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place),

              while the USSR exported 17% of oil production, and now consumes 17%. This is GDP at the expense of the "pipe" laughing
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Increased gold reserves by 48 times!

              48 times reduced the amount of industrial production of consumer goods. winked
              Quote: Lipchanin
              tore the most enslaving "liberal" in the history of production sharing agreements

              joined the WTO smile
              Quote: Lipchanin
              raised industry and agriculture (Russia for 5 consecutive years, ranks 2-3rd in the world in grain exports, ahead of the United States, which is now in 4th place).

              I don’t know about the industry .. C \ x somewhere on grain I agree ... but "Miratorg" ???? what do you say about it ??? wassat
              Quote: Lipchanin
              • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.

              lol you would rather compare not the average but the most massive, ordinary, common what
              Quote: Lipchanin
              nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.

              laughing Yes Yes!! of course, nationalized, and then appointed top managers with the salaries of oligarchs !!!
              Quote: Lipchanin
              forbade deputies to have accounts abroad

              but did not forbid their relatives smile But there was such a practice in the USSR — if you have a connection with foreign countries, you won’t be in the social ladder !!! fool
              We conclude: Putin did not make a breakthrough ... he did not even create a reserve for the future, we live while there is something to swing through the pipes. As for achievements in the field of social development, the average level of social consciousness, he lost and squandered many Soviet achievements ..
              PS: by the way, he never laid flowers on the monument to Generalissimo Stalin, thanks to which his favorite holiday is celebrated soldier
              1. -9
                5 August 2019 15: 28
                Quote: aybolyt678
                Putin did not make a breakthrough ... he did not even create a reserve for the future, we live while there is something to pump through the pipes.

                Oh really?
                Nevertheless, turning on the logic, questions arise, for example, how to understand that the country has already left the oil needle? Where is the border beyond which the issue is being resolved and, according to proponents of this theory, progress begins?

                The question is not idle, because according to the results of 2018 (according to the UN and US EIA), the share of oil exports in Russia's GDP was only 9%. For comparison, the share of oil exports in the GDP of Norway exceeds 11%. In Kazakhstan's GDP - 27%. Canada’s GDP is not much less than in the Russian economy and is 3%. The best friends of the USA and as we all know the “most democratic” regimes in the world - Saudi Arabia and Qatar, form their GDP from oil by 45% and 25% respectively. However, there is only one “gas station” on the planet for our homegrown liberals and this is Russia.

                http://www.iarex.ru/articles/64762.html
                As for achievements in the field of social development, the average level of social consciousness, he lost and squandered many Soviet achievements ..

                But haven't they all been labeled with ebn?
                this despite the fact that prices rose 10 times!

                Well, it's only in Russia that prices are rising
                while the USSR exported 17% of oil production, and now consumes 17%. This is GDP at the expense of the "pipe" laughing

                Answered above
                48 times reduced the amount of industrial production of consumer goods.

                Since 90s?
                joined the WTO

                So what?
                If I'm not mistaken, aren't we alone there
                but "Miratorg" ???? what do you say about it ??? wassat

                Just this
                Miratorg (Miratorg Agro-Industrial Holding) is a Russian agro-industrial company, one of the largest meat producers in Russia [2], and the largest pork producer in Russia

                Only where is the grain here request
                you would rather compare not the average but the most massive, ordinary, common

                So they differ in regions. So compare does not work request
                Yes Yes!! of course, nationalized, and then appointed top managers with the salaries of oligarchs !!!

                So it’s kind of talking about nationalization. We have already talked about salaries.
                but did not forbid their relatives

                Up to 10 knees?
                by the way, he never laid flowers on the monument to Generalissimo Stalin,

                This is certainly the most serious "jamb"
                Only here flowers are not laid on "monuments"
                1. 0
                  5 August 2019 21: 15
                  all the same, you are disingenuous, add gas and wood exports to oil .... The degree of industrial development is determined precisely by the high technology of production, a bunch was invented - introduced should be minimal. Where is our science now ?? All achievements in the nuclear sphere, or space, have been affected by this from the Soviet project. Achievements from the military sphere and do not think to migrate to civil proceedings due to the lack thereof.
                  If you don’t understand that the state has become the personal domain of some top managers, headed by the main one, and nationalization is only a political term, then this is not only your misfortune. I myself was like that a year ago.
                  By the way, if it’s not difficult to enlighten me about the flowers at the monument?
              2. -3
                5 August 2019 17: 35
                You can continue to live on what is pumped through pipes - we are going a different way, high-tech, production: materials, equipment, aircraft, rockets, engines and much more. And the backlog for the future was created by a decent 26 technoparks - by the year 24 they plan to open another 47, nine ports, 168 state district power plants, thermal power plants, nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants, solar power plants, built more than 10000 kilometers of railways, the length of roads has more than doubled, built more than 900 bridges - one of them is Krymsky, for the return of Crimea - the same thanks to Putin, Russia's national debt is one of the lowest in the world 13% of GDP, and at the expense of a breakthrough it happened: in the nuclear industry nuclear power plant, YAPVRD for Petrel, machine tool construction in 3D printing equipment, aviation - MC 21 has finally, since the times of the USSR, created a truly competitive engine for civil aviation PD 14, in hypersonic aerodynamics and control in a plasma environment "Avangard" and much more.
                1. -1
                  6 August 2019 12: 49
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  168 state district power station
                  - state district power station. It works on fuel oil, and this is oil. Where is the technology in this position?
                  1. -1
                    7 August 2019 10: 40
                    You will study the design and equipment of these state district power plants from the beginning - then you will learn about the technologies used there.
            4. +3
              5 August 2019 15: 05
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place

              Why mislead members of the forum? am
              6th place is the PPP GDP. In terms of nominal GDP, we are in 11th place (IMF data).
              Moreover, the difference between nominal GDP and PPP GDP is critical for us, since abroad we buy goods and tools not for rubles (unfortunately).
              Quote: Lipchanin
              For 17 years, Putin has increased Russia's budget 22 times

              The price of a dollar in 2000 = 28 rubles.
              The size of the budget in 2000 (expenses) = 1 trillion. 014 billion (http://docs.cntd.ru/document/901751145).
              In dollars, the 2000 budget = 36,2 billion.
              what
              The price of a dollar in 2018 = 63 rubles.
              The size of the budget in 2018 (expenses) = 16 trillion. 530 billion (https://tass.ru/info/4679765).
              In dollars, the 2000 budget = 262,4 billion.
              what
              262,4 billion. / 36,2 billion. = 7,3 times ... increased the size of the budget (expenses) PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, not Putin.

              I did not read further. You may have written the truth below, but two episodes of your persistent zombies about how good Putin is were enough for me.
              From myself I will add his most important achievement - PENSION AGE!
              1. -8
                5 August 2019 15: 38
                Quote: Tibidokh
                Why mislead members of the forum?
                6th place is GDP

                About it GDP i said
                The price of a dollar in 2000 = 28 rubles.
                The size of the budget in 2000 (expenses) = 1 trillion. 014 billion (http://docs.cntd.ru/document/901751145).
                In dollars, the 2000 budget = 36,2 billion

                Do you get a salary in dollars?
                increased the size of the budget (expenses) PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, not Putin.

                Well then, in your opinion, the PEOPLE of RUSSIA are to blame for all troubles, not Putin.
                And then somehow it turns out inconveniently, did all the good people, and Putin did all the bad?
                I did not read further. Maybe you wrote the truth below, but two episodes were enough for me

                They didn’t read correctly. And then everything would be turned upside down
                Your persistent zombies about how good Putin is.

                Yes, I'm not trying to zombie anyone. All people are already adults.
                I just express my point of view.
                From myself I will add his most important achievement - PENSION AGE!

                And for me, the Return of Crimea to the MOTHERLAND
                1. 0
                  5 August 2019 16: 13
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  About this GDP, I said

                  No, not about that! Do not lie ...
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place

                  Where do you have about teaching staff? Or two we write, six went to mind, seven went crazy !?
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Do you get a salary in dollars?

                  In yuan, but what? And from 2005 to 2019, the salary in RMB remained at the same level, but in terms of rubles increased significantly. In my opinion, this ruble has fallen, but not the salary has increased, no?
                  Here lay out your calculations, according to which the budget grew from 1 trillion. up to 16 trillion (i.e. 22 times laughing ) then everyone will admit that you are right.
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  RUSSIAN PEOPLE are to blame for all troubles, not Putin

                  Are you a liberal You have purely liberalistic fabrications! How much did the State Department invest in the training manual when he gave it to you? Only the fifth column subject could blame the people of Russia for all troubles.
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  did all the good people, but Putin did all the bad?

                  But Putin did everything just good? For example, raised the retirement age?
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Return of Crimea to the MOTHERLAND

                  But then he gave 337 square kilometers of land to China, 90 thousand square kilometers of the Norwegian sea.
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Yes, I'm not trying to zombie anyone.

                  1. -7
                    5 August 2019 16: 59
                    Quote: Tibidokh
                    Are you a liberal You have purely liberalistic fabrications! How much did the State Department invest in the training manual when he gave it to you? Only the fifth column subject could blame the people of Russia for all troubles.

                    Yes, you are a true liberalist.
                    Turn everything upside down is precisely in the training manual of the liberals!
                    I repeat the question.
                    Why did the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA do all the good, and all the bad PUTIN? So Putin alone does all the bad things?
                    I will expand the question. Who won the Second World War?
                    They say Stalin, but it seems to me PEOPLE.
                    But then he gave 337 square kilometers of land to China, 90 thousand square kilometers of the Norwegian sea.

                    Liberal nonsense.
                    The demarcation of the Russian-Chinese border took place in 2005. As a result of the interstate border in the center of the Amur River, China received a number of territories with a total area of ​​337 km² - a plot of land in the vicinity of Bolshoi Island (the headwaters of the Argun River in the Chita Region) and two sections in the region of the Tarabar and Bolshoi Ussuriysky Islands at the confluence of the Amur and Ussuri Rivers. The main part of these territories was the western tip of the Bolshoi Ussuri Island on the Amur River opposite the mouth of the Ussuri River. The island has an area of ​​327 to 350 km² depending on the season.

                    On 14 on October 2004, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Hu Jintao signed an addendum to the agreement on the Russian-Chinese state border, according to which the transfer took place.

                    On May 20, 2005, the State Duma of the 4th convocation ratified an additional agreement (307 deputies supported, 80 against, two abstained). On May 25, the agreement was approved by the Federation Council (157 senators supported, against - two, without abstentions).

                    They gave away what had no price.
                    Now about Norway
                    Highlights briefly:

                    1) Russian sovereignty has never extended to this territory. Therefore, no one gave the "native Russian" land to anyone.

                    2) In reality, it is the VICTORY of Russian diplomats, since we now have the right to consider an application for accession of 1 million 200 thousand square meters. km Arctic shelf. Without a clear border between the Russian Federation and Norway, this application would not even have been considered, in full accordance with the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, which we signed in 1997. (By the way, this application should be considered this year, no one knows what is there and how?)

                    3) This agreement (on the delineation of maritime spaces and cooperation in the Barents Sea and the Arctic Ocean) is NEVER reflected in previously concluded agreements. Including Svalbard. This is expressly stated in the 6 contract clause. Moreover, he gives us a little more rights.

                    4) For hydrocarbons. Shtokman as it was ours, and remained. There are questions regarding the set of Fedynsky. But does it lie on the interface, which means it will be developed jointly? (who can find a reliable location of the Fedynsky arch and put points on the map from the contract?). Some small deposits have departed to Norway, yes. But without differentiating rights, it was still impossible to develop either Norway or Russia. And the terms are tight.


                    https://aftershock.news/?q=node/28514&full
                    What does the video have to do with it? belay
                    Have I already zombied you? laughing
                    1. 0
                      5 August 2019 17: 13
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Yes, you are a true liberalist.

                      No, you are a liberalist. laughing

                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      I repeat the question.
                      Why did the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA do all the good, and all the bad PUTIN?

                      I don’t know where you saw exactly such a statement from me ... but just in case, I will repeat the answer:
                      Quote: Tibidokh
                      You have purely liberalistic fabrications!

                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      I will expand the question. Who won the Second World War?

                      C'mon, it can't be ... Putin? belay
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      They say Stalin, but it seems to me PEOPLE.

                      It doesn’t seem so to you about raising the budget ... Putin’s only merit, right?
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      They gave away what had no price.

                      Russian territories had no price? Yes, you, my friend, is that liberalist!
                      1. -7
                        5 August 2019 17: 51
                        Quote: Tibidokh
                        I don’t know where you saw exactly such a statement from me ... but just in case, I will repeat the answer:

                        The logical conclusion from this
                        increased the size of the budget (expenses) PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, not Putin.

                        Attention!
                        The people, and not Putin, increased the size of the budget, that's good.
                        So?
                        So everything that is bad, not the people, he did well, then who did everything badly? who alone was left without people?
                        It doesn’t seem so to you about raising the budget ... Putin’s only merit, right?

                        Separation of the people and Putin you have done.
                        Russian territories had no price? Yes, you, my friend, is that liberalist!

                        What else laughing
                        Just decide who pays me, the State Department, or the Kremlin laughing
                        And then I hear more and more that I am in the Kremlin laughing
                        You modestly kept silent about the Norwegian sea laughing
                      2. 0
                        5 August 2019 18: 10
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        The logical conclusion from this

                        G - LOGIC

                        I objected to you that it was not Putin personally who raised the budget, you wrote: "Why did the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA do all the good things, but Putin did all the bad things?"
                        So where did I write that Putin did all the bad things? Logic, say ...
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Increased the size of the budget people, not Putin

                        Do not dare to write Putin with a small letter, the State Department liberal! am
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        So everything that is bad, not the people, he did well, then who did everything badly? who alone was left without people?


                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Separation of the people and Putin you have done.

                        So raising the budget is the merit of only Putin or only the people? Or not just Putin?
                        And how many times, do not remind? And I remind you - the people are 7,3 times (from 1 trillion to 16 trillion rubles), and Putin is 22 times (from 1 trillion to 16 trillion rubles)! laughing
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Just decide who pays me, the State Department, or the Kremlin

                        Yes FIG liberals will take you. Maybe you are like a gentle calf ... two moms.
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        You modestly kept silent about the Norwegian sea

                        Well, why did you keep silent, I posted a whole clip about Kemsku parish.
                        In general, only a traitor to the interests of the homeland can justify the transfer of territories.
                    2. +3
                      5 August 2019 21: 25
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Why did the PEOPLE OF RUSSIA do all the good, and all the bad PUTIN? So Putin alone does all the bad things?
                      I will expand the question. Who won the Second World War?

                      Is it really OH ???)))
                2. +2
                  5 August 2019 17: 07
                  [quote = Lipchanin] And for me, the Return of Crimea to the MOTHERLAND / quote]
                  And what is the merit of Putin? Did he "persuade" the Crimeans to join Russia? They themselves wanted it and did everything in their power for this. Putin only gave his consent to the admission of Crimea to Russia. If the Crimeans did not want, there would be no "return home".
                  1. -5
                    5 August 2019 17: 16
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    They themselves wanted it and did everything in their power to do this.

                    That would not be enough without some support wink

                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Putin only agreed to accept Crimea as part of Russia

                    Brad.

                    Minus my yes Yes
                  2. 0
                    5 August 2019 17: 20
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    If the Crimeans did not want, there would be no "return home".

                    Now Lipchanin and Co. will accuse you of Russophobia and liberalism!
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    merit of Putin? Did he "persuade" the Crimeans to join Russia?

                    And then ...
                  3. +7
                    5 August 2019 17: 40
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    quote = Lipchanin] And for me, the Return of Crimea to the MOTHERLAND / quote]
                    And what is the merit of Putin?

                    Now all of Crimea is strewn with billboards, that it was United Russia that built the Crimean bridge and that United Russia is developing Crimea! Not the State, not hard workers, but fat cats with EP! That's how concepts are replaced
                  4. -7
                    5 August 2019 17: 58
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Did he "persuade" the Crimeans to join Russia?

                    Do you think that without support, including power, a referendum would take place?
                    And who gave the command to transfer "polite people" to the Crimea?
                    And what is the merit of Putin?

                    Only here, explain to me popularly why you are carefully destroying all the positives from Putin?
                    Why sculpt all the negativity on him?
                    Here you are to illustrate my answers
                    ,
              2. +2
                5 August 2019 17: 09
                Quote: Tibidokh
                Why mislead members of the forum?


                His job is to defend his government. And if the government is lying? What should he do then?
                1. 0
                  5 August 2019 17: 29
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  His job is to defend his government.

                  And I thought that the State Department was paying him ... For the promotion of silk genocide. And our government gives him a job !? Well then, okay, I’m removing suspicions from Lipchanin! request
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  And if the government is lying? What should he do then?

                  Call black white.
                  1. -6
                    5 August 2019 18: 01
                    Quote: Tibidokh
                    . And our government gives him a job !?

                    Already 2 bets have laughing
                    "Silvestr" personally saw my paycheck laughing
                    Envy burned me laughing
                    1. -1
                      5 August 2019 18: 20
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Already 2 bets have

                      Appreciate, dear, what you have! Two bets, from the Kremlin and the State Department, that's cool! good
                      And if it's not a secret, whose bid do you value more? wink
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      "Silvestr" personally saw my paycheck. Burned me with envy

                      So you also have a "white" salary ?! belay Damn, where to send the questionnaire? drinks
              3. -7
                5 August 2019 17: 48
                The fact that you buy equipment abroad is already your problem - most of the fact that we sell products manufactured in Russia under a foreign brand, with localization up to 100%. And the retirement age of 65 years as well as the pension reform will enter into force as much as 2034th. year.
              4. +1
                6 August 2019 07: 09
                Without PPP comparison, nominal GDP is not correct to compare. And in the Russian Federation, the service sector is not included in the GDP, while in the USA it is included with a non-frail share. Increased GDP nationally under the leadership of Putin. You will not argue that under Brezhnev, Patam lived relatively well. Did Brezhnev personally do everything himself? How stupid do not you find? About retirement, I myself am not happy, but we don’t know much in the situation ... I don’t see any reason to discuss.
              5. -1
                6 August 2019 14: 09
                Quote: Tibidokh
                262,4 billion / 36,2 billion = 7,3 times

                +++ I will continue your thought with the question - how much has the purchasing power of the dollar decreased?
                by so much you need to reduce the indicator 7,3
                1. 0
                  7 August 2019 03: 32
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  by so much you need to reduce the indicator 7,3

                  Go to the calculator:
                  https://www.statbureau.org/ru/united-states/inflation-calculators?dateBack=2000-1-1&dateTo=2018-12-1&amount=1000
                  We introduce - January 2000 / December 2018.
                  We get $ 1. Those. one and a half times.
                  7,3 / 1.5 = 3,65 times. what
                  In any case, the number 22 (from 1 trillion to 16 trillion) does not even smell.
                2. 0
                  7 August 2019 10: 43
                  In Russia, prices are in rubles, and not in dollars - in all calculations, consider in rubles, if it relates to the domestic market.
                  1. -1
                    7 August 2019 14: 57
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    in all calculations, consider in rubles, if it relates to the domestic market.

                    If you really decided to tell me (prompt, suggest), then do it wisely, and not just ...
                    Let's see why I do not agree to count everything in rubles. Tell me, does the budget concern only the domestic market?
                    Leave it ... Even in the days of the "Iron Curtain" this was not.
                    Medical equipment, medicines, machine tools, ICE, pipes, electrical equipment, chemical products, etc., does the government buy for rubles? And what is VTB, you probably know yourself.
                    And do state employees earned money traveling abroad, do they often not change to local currency?
                    There is such a thing as inflation - a decrease in the purchasing power of money. How much could you buy for 100 rubles in 2000, and how much now?
                    Most clearly inflation shows the ratio of the ruble to the dollar.
          2. -8
            5 August 2019 08: 46
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And, of us, Russian pensioners, how satisfied with the current situation!
            Nearly twenty years of rampant prosperity. What is normally balanced in the post-Soviet period, the body is able to withstand this?

            Judging by increase in duration life for these 20 years (higher than in the USSR) -any
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And that 82 of the working-age population, along with wealthy dollar millionaires for the year in the form of taxes sponsored economy in the amount of 18 rubles

            taxes are ... sponsorship ?! belay lol no words ....
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And those who went out to indignant do not like something. The authorities need to be stricter with them.

            certainly stricter: otherwise normal people will have to go out-tapping fat onyards on impudent hars so that the streets do not block.

            in general, the touching unity of the Bolsheviks with the most liberal children and children is touching
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Vladimir Putin has been fighting the opposition from the very beginning - since 2000

            yeah: Nemtsov, he "killed" your defender, and then on the list of the State Department
            Quote: ROSS 42
            So it continues to decrease. Apparently not everyone pinched

            depopulation since 1964
          3. -7
            5 August 2019 09: 43
            For Rossa 42.
            Your problems, these are your problems. In Uzbekistan, too, there are enough, but we live long enough, I'm not going to "Tahiti", I'm fine here too!
            1. +7
              5 August 2019 11: 59
              Quote: andrewkor
              In Uzbekistan, too, there is enough, but we live long enough, I'm not going to "Tahiti", I'm fine here too!


              Why, then, are your fellow countrymen rushing to Russia to work? See your well-being and their - different states. Or do you live on the principle of “I feel good, and do not care about the rest”?
              1. -8
                5 August 2019 12: 15
                Quote: Silvestr
                Why, then, are your fellow countrymen rushing to Russia to work?

                Oh how laughing
                But everything is bad with us, suffocating from poverty laughing
                1. 0
                  5 August 2019 14: 37
                  Well, if they’re even worse, then of course it’s easier and no complaints
                2. +1
                  5 August 2019 17: 14
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  But everything is bad with us, suffocating from poverty


                  Do you want to tell us that Russia is lower than Uzbekistan in terms of economy? After all, this is how your attack is perceived laughing
                  Well this is necessary, so confused in our own thoughts: everything is fine with us, but we are below Uzbekistan! Masterpiece! laughing
                  1. -5
                    5 August 2019 18: 59
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    only so is your attack

                    Not only that.
                    It’s you and you who are similarly cliched, That Russia is poor and does not have jobs in it.
                    So I wonder where the jobs came from? request
                    Well this is necessary, so confused in our own thoughts: everything is fine with us, but we are below Uzbekistan! Masterpiece!

                    And do not ascribe to me your nonsense.
                    I saw them from you on the site to vomit
                    1. 0
                      5 August 2019 21: 06
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      That Russia is poor and has no jobs in it.

                      Of course, the opposite is true, and there is money, and 25 million new jobs have been created. The main thing to believe in fairy tales
          4. +3
            5 August 2019 11: 46
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: andrewkor
            I, a simple person, a senior citizen, are completely satisfied with the current state of things!

            And, of us, Russian pensioners, how satisfied with the current situation! fellow
            Nearly twenty years of rampant prosperity. What is normally balanced in the post-Soviet period, the body is able to withstand this?
            Whatever the year, the connection between the party, the government and the people is closer and stronger ... Or rather, the relationship between the authorities and the party of power is stronger ... Well, the people are directly connected with this - by 146%.
            Yes, there are some connections. Whatever the day is new feats in the name of prosperity of the nation. Whatever the year - new achievements in the economy!
            Take, for example, GDP for 2018 - substantial growth! As much as 1% with inflation, nothing at all - 3%
            Or, here, Rosneft in 2018 transferred more than 4 rubles to the budget! fellow And everyone likes it. To those who have listed. But how could they take it even more, but four trillion was enough ... And that 82 working population, together with rich dollar millionaires for the year in the form of taxes sponsored the economy in the amount of 200 billion rubles, was forgotten. However, they forgot about the fact that these 000 dollar millionaires, who, according to various estimates, own up to 18% of all the country's resources, got off with just one and a half trillion personal income tax while withdrawing from the country $ 400 or 000 rubles . belay
            And those who went out to indignant do not like something. The authorities need to be stricter with them. It’s not for you in the Defense Ministry that billions of dollars to be shoved or for billions of rubles to be scribed by FSB colonels. Every sable know your cell ...
            Quote: andrewkor
            Islam Karimov plunged the opposition to the root, the new President firmly took up corruption.

            Vladimir Putin has been fighting the opposition from the very beginning - since 2000. And before him, his mentor, Boris Nikolaevich, fought. As a result of the struggle, the number of dollar billionaires increased from zero to 102, and the number of people decreased by several million. So it continues to decrease. Apparently not everyone was pinched. belay

            Why are your problems and the problems of millions of “Lipchanin?” The main thing is that he is well and comfortable! Look how happy it is to suppress dissent! After all, there is Putin’s opinion and it is the only true one, and together with Medvedev and United Russia they lead us into a happy future, though through a swamp, but these are the nuances
            1. -6
              5 August 2019 12: 03
              Quote: Silvestr
              Look how happy it is to suppress dissent!

              Even as I rejoice that they did not give the Maidan to arrange.
              Do you want a repetition of the Ukrainian script?
              So the State Department dreams of it and allocates money for it.
              Congratulations, you keep up with them
              After all, there is Putin’s opinion and it is the only true

              Have you heard somewhere the opinion of GDP on the dispersal of the coven?
              And here's what else needs to be done
              1. +2
                5 August 2019 12: 33
                And why can ukrinsky Armenian?
              2. +1
                5 August 2019 17: 16
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Even as I rejoice that they did not give the Maidan to arrange.


                Do not look or listen to Soloviev and Skabeev, especially at night. This causes serious injury.
                1. -4
                  5 August 2019 19: 03
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Do not look or listen to Soloviev and Skabeev, especially at night. This causes serious injury.

                  I saw how the Maidan in Sumeria began
                  One to one.
                  And I read the comments of castrolegole including those in VO.
                  One to one with yours today.
                  No wonder, the director is alone, phasington regional committee
            2. -5
              5 August 2019 12: 18
              Quote: Silvestr
              problems of millions to Lipchanin

              The fact that you only see me on the site is very flattering. hi
              You can write and publish a monograph from my posts laughing
              All your fee laughing
              1. +2
                5 August 2019 17: 19
                Quote: Lipchanin
                The fact that you only see me on the site is very flattering.


                Do not entertain yourself with an illusion! You advocate too aggressively. And aggression always causes a reaction. Here you have noticed love
                Your words about the monograph just say that you have an excessively high self-esteem. What are they doing with daffodils? ”“ Dip into shit. request
                1. -5
                  5 August 2019 19: 07
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  You advocate too aggressively. And aggression always causes a reaction. Here you have noticed

                  This is how aggressive? belay
                  Threatening? Calling? Forcing? Zombie?
                  Your words about the monograph just say that you have an excessively high self-esteem.

                  So you tell everyone about me laughing
                  What are they doing with daffodils? ”“ Dip into shit.

                  I won’t even argue. You can see better from there request
          5. GAF
            +5
            5 August 2019 13: 02
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And, of us, Russian pensioners, how satisfied with the current situation!

            Someone happy, someone not. Equalization as it was under the leadership of everything and there is no whole party. It all depends on the goal set by man for himself. In a year or so, you have become a general at VO — honor and praise. My wife and I - a teacher and a doctor - worked for 17 years, receiving a pension and a salary. In which country is this possible. They reached the ranks of Honorary Worker and Excellent Health. helped the grandchildren get a paid quality education and get on their feet ... Her friend, also a doctor, retired and devoted her leisure to the garden plot and rest. He leads a healthy lifestyle free of obligations and does not complain about fate, although now her pension is almost half that of her wife.
            For the figures you quoted, GDP and so on, the solution to global issues related to food security and the "defense industry" is lost. We live in Siberia, but on the shelves all year round there are fresh vegetables and food products with a large selection in terms of price and quality. For example, a package of cereal products costs from 10 to 60 rubles. You will smoke two less cigarettes a day, you will save pigeons on packaging.
            Many have become rich - the answer is mixed. In China, for example, part of billionaires become heroes respected in the country, and some part is put up against the wall ...
          6. -1
            5 August 2019 16: 54
            These 182000 millionaires - they paid taxes, what they will do next with their money - this is their own business.
          7. 0
            6 August 2019 14: 22
            Your comment is a masterpiece. + of course!
        3. 0
          5 August 2019 17: 07
          Quote: andrewkor
          I, a simple person, a senior citizen, are completely satisfied with the current state of things!
          Reply

          You may be happy with it and the youth wants to live in a new way. The country is treading water. The economy is in trouble. In the center of the country it’s hard to work. The retirement age has been raised. With Europe on knives. acher stability
          1. -3
            5 August 2019 19: 08
            Quote: Pilat2009
            In the center of the country with work strained.

            But there are plenty of migrant workers from Sumeria laughing
          2. -2
            6 August 2019 00: 45
            This is not a country marking time - but loafers who have nothing to do.
      2. +9
        5 August 2019 07: 10
        I completely agree. I am from Donetsk (DPR). Because of such "Freaks" we have been spitting blood for 5 years.
      3. -7
        5 August 2019 07: 46
        Poor gendarmerie crying guard the interests of the king
        1. -1
          5 August 2019 08: 01
          Quote: spirit
          Poor Gendarmerie on guard of the Tsar’s interests

          Do you like this kind of police more? (Ukraine, "Berkut")


          So go to Ukraine, there in each farm his chieftain steers.
          1. -3
            5 August 2019 16: 10
            Quote: Boris55
            Do you like this kind of police more? (Ukraine, "Berkut")

            Who is impatient to our riot police as well humiliate.
            FIGS !!! DO NOT WAIT !!!
        2. +3
          5 August 2019 08: 57
          Quote: spirit
          Poor gendarmerie crying guard the interests of the king

          Surprise, but your inviolability is included in the "king's interests". I asked a bunch of times, I will ask again - when was the last time you robbed? Gang shootouts don't interfere with sleep? Or not, there were shootings, but in the 90s there were.
          1. +6
            5 August 2019 12: 04
            Quote: Rededi
            I ask again - when was the last time you were robbed? Skirmishes between gangs do not interfere with sleep?


            They never robbed, but the shootings ended because the "crimson jackets" were replaced by uniforms. There are so many colonel-billionaires! And there are also generals! And to ordinary people it makes no difference who rips them off - bandits in jackets or uniforms
            1. -7
              5 August 2019 12: 42
              Quote: Silvestr
              And to ordinary people it makes no difference who rips them off - bandits in jackets or uniforms

              Well, how much did you personally "rip off". Not tired of speaking on behalf of "ordinary people"? Did they authorize you to do this?
      4. +1
        5 August 2019 08: 59
        Or like this:
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        2. +3
          5 August 2019 17: 30
          And that all were enraged? Remind who choose? Choose the mayor of Moscow. Do you understand? ME-RA. Even the richest and largest city, but ME-RA. Plus deputies of the city legislative assembly. AU! Is everything okay for everyone? What the hell is the country behind them? Behind them are bankers and officials of the old and new squares. The country here in my Siberia suffocates in smoke. More than a week he lived without seeing the blue sky and without glasses admiring the star. And this is in Barnaul. From Krasnoyarsk to me two days by train. So which country do these heroes protect and from whom? What will change personally for me and everyone who lives outside the Moscow Ring Road from the fact that not Sobyanin will become the mayor of Moscow? Well, there was, for example, Luzhkov, he was in disagreement with the authorities, to recall how it all ended?
          I consider the actions of the security officials inadequate. I understand and share the behavior of the protesters, I do not justify it, but I understand. Indeed, today the protest is not economic, because, at the very least, poorly, the majority somehow makes ends meet. Yes it is hard, yes it is difficult, but it reduces, and someone can even afford the surplus. BUT! Man is not truly fed up with bread alone, and in addition to material values, something more is needed. For example, the right to dispose of one's own destiny and independently determine one's own destiny and the destiny of one's country, and not, as in the above example, "let all idiots decide for us." It was for this sake that all these careless boys and girls took to the streets, it was this reason that prompted them to unite in a protest outburst. In a situation where external well-being is discordant with the internal hopelessness of a human being, languishing in a golden cage, such a development of the situation is inevitable and natural. The only gratifying thing is that this generation is not as lost as those who resent the fact that the protesters are well-dressed, well-fed and have all the signs of a "good" life are portrayed. Such people simply do not realize that the words of the classic "While we burn with freedom, while hearts are alive for honor ..." are eternal and unchanging. At one time, these people were "ashamed" to defend their country, silently watching how some uncles in power were pounding it, but now they are ready to kick themselves in the chest for the head of the municipality, trying to wash away the sin for their former weakness. But only they did not change their mouse nature, although there was more ambition. Your time is up, humble yourself. Go to the churchyard of history, making way for the young. You had a chance to save your country - you didn't use it. Now is our time to decide our fate. For better or worse, it will be our choice, not yours!
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      6. +2
        5 August 2019 11: 34
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: andrewkor
        And where is the opinion of British scientists, without them now in any way?

        But these opinions are much more interesting to me.


        And here’s what’s interesting to me — well, they mutilated, showed their dare, and then what?
        What will you say when, again and everywhere, falsifying the elections, United Russia wins?
        Of course, with the continuation of today, the fall in the level of salaries, pensions, and stagnation of the economy!
        What say then? Indeed, fair elections are the only way to change the situation!
        1. -7
          5 August 2019 11: 46
          Quote: Silvestr
          Of course, with the continuation of today, the fall in the level of salaries, pensions, and stagnation of the economy!

          These jerks for these reasons came to the Sabbath?
          Why do you always skip from topic to topic?
          Where is the fraud and where is the economy?
          Indeed, fair elections are the only way to change the situation!

          Until fraud is proven, elections are considered valid.
          Why does this sable not go on a dialogue with the Central Election Commission? Why doesn’t he put forward his claims to them?
          Instead, she starts sabbaths
          1. +3
            5 August 2019 13: 10
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Until fraud is proven, elections are considered valid.
            Why does this sable not go on a dialogue with the Central Election Commission? Why doesn’t he put forward his claims to them?

            So you still don’t know anything! How everything is running! Recover signatures and candidates! With regards to the Tsentizbirkom, at least read the law on him, what and when he can! Militant illiteracy!
            1. -4
              5 August 2019 14: 13
              Quote: Silvestr
              With regards to the Tsentizbirkom, at least read the law on him, what and when he can! Militant illiteracy!

              And where did I say that the CEC "what and when he can"
              Why does this sable not go on a dialogue with the Central Election Commission?

              Here? I do not see...
              Recover signatures and candidates!

              Link in passing do not throw off?
            2. 0
              5 August 2019 14: 24
              Quote: Silvestr
              With regards to the Tsentizbirkom, at least read the law on him, what and when he can!

              Here you can when you want !!! You tell this little animal Sable, it’s because she rushed to Pamfilova, which she was advised to contact the Moscow electoral committee.
              Quote: Silvestr
              Militant illiteracy!

              Yes, this is the best characteristic of liberda! They know nothing, but "they are in power here." laughing
            3. -3
              5 August 2019 21: 42
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Where is the fraud and where is the economy?

              Quote: Silvestr
              So you still don’t know anything! How everything is running!

              Launched and very much ... and for a long time.
              A person does not see the PSS (causal relationship) of these two concepts))))
        2. -3
          5 August 2019 11: 46
          Quote: Silvestr
          And here’s what’s interesting to me — well, they mutilated, showed their dare, and then what?
          What will you say when, again and everywhere, falsifying the elections, United Russia wins?
          Of course, with the continuation of today, the fall in the level of salaries, pensions, and stagnation of the economy!
          What say then? Indeed, fair elections are the only way to change the situation!

          You, my friend, lie and do not lie. What stagnation are you singing about? Or is that what you call growth? Yes, the growth is not great, I would like more, but this is growth. Or do you know the meaning of the word "stagnation"? And where did you see the fall in pensions? Your bitter experience. And they "got rid of" for the cause, so "unduly" will only benefit, they do not understand the need to observe the laws with reason, they will instill at the level of reflexes.
          1. +2
            5 August 2019 13: 14
            Quote: Rededi
            What stagnation are you singing about? Or is that what you call growth? Yes, the growth is not great, I would like more, but this is growth. Or do you know the meaning of the word "stagnation"? And where did you see the fall in pensions?

            laughing
            Growth within the limits of statistical error!
            Well, then enlighten about growth, otherwise even the deputies of the State Duma are depressed - after paying all the payments, pensioners have 300 rubles a day to live on. After all, prices are rising, but there is no pension.
            1. -1
              5 August 2019 13: 33
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Rededi
              What stagnation are you singing about? Or is that what you call growth? Yes, the growth is not great, I would like more, but this is growth. Or do you know the meaning of the word "stagnation"? And where did you see the fall in pensions?

              laughing
              Growth within the limits of statistical error!
              Well, then enlighten about growth, otherwise even the deputies of the State Duma are depressed - after paying all the payments, pensioners have 300 rubles a day to live on. After all, prices are rising, but there is no pension.
              You’re turning it again. Growth, even at the level of error, is growth, not stagnation at all.
              And where do pensioners have 300 rubles to pay for utility bills? Do these pensioners have apartments of 1000 square meters? Why didn't they die out, or 300 rubles, in your logic, is enough to eat for a whole month? Prices are growing, no doubt, but pensions are regularly increased, but not by much, but nevertheless they are increasing, there are no starvation deaths among pensioners, as in the 90s. So your post is just another liberal clamor that weakly correlates with the surrounding reality. And yes, bulkheads, especially those who have not reached the age of majority, are apparently very worried about pensioners, apparently grandmothers and grandfathers give too little pocket money from their pensions, Lyokhe-urkagan no longer has enough money for the new iPhone and donations, and over-age infantiles for any other they cannot calculate their pension, except for the social one, because they haven’t worked anywhere for a day, so to speak, the whole life is in a permanent creative search, but the authorities regularly “steal” their taxes. laughing You yourself are not funny? The question is rhetorical, the answer can not bother.
              1. +1
                5 August 2019 14: 17
                Quote: Rededi
                And yes, bulked up, especially those who have not reached the age of majority, apparently are very worried about pensioners, apparently grandmothers and grandfathers give too little pocket money from their pensions, for a new "iPhone"

                I myself know of several pensioners who have almost no money left after the visits of their grandchildren
          2. -2
            5 August 2019 13: 34
            What growth, the growth of income of the oligarchs, yes there is. But there is no increase in population income. Maybe there is a population growth in Russia? No, there is a decrease. So what growth tryndit?
            1. -2
              5 August 2019 13: 51
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              What growth, the growth of income of the oligarchs, yes there is. But there is no increase in population income. Maybe there is a population growth in Russia? No, there is a decrease. So what growth tryndite?

              Follow the language, do not communicate with drinking buddies. Regarding the growth of the IMF and the World Bank, this is their infa.
            2. -1
              5 August 2019 18: 01
              We don’t know about the loss - but we know for sure that in fact there are 1500000 more Russian citizens, LDNR citizens who were recently ordered to issue Russian citizenship, in which case there is also plan B - a simplified scheme for issuing Russian citizenship to 25 million of our compatriots abroad - but at the expense of extinction, it was in the 90s and early 2000s when, every month, 150000 people died in Russia - and not in 4 months as it is now. And you can still star for a hundred years about the extinction of Russia - but it will not be.
        3. -2
          5 August 2019 12: 46
          Quote: Silvestr
          And here’s what’s interesting to me — well, they mutilated, showed their dare, and then what?

          The first part of my question has disappeared.
          Are you an adult and seriously believe that OMON is so simple, because of boredom, you have nothing to use special equipment from doing?
          And the fact that it provoked him to this you do not allow?
          And further. Last time you have already been proved that these "onizhedets" themselves arranged this provocation
    3. -1
      5 August 2019 08: 17
      Add to this the dispersal of the demonstration with truncheons, water cannons, tear gas, as is commonly observed in a democratic gamerope ... Our Rosguards and riot police are not so democratic enough that they drive monsters under the arms of freaks, convince them, persuade them instead of acting like in a free gamerope. . "but in the muzzles !!! .." If only the howl would rise then throughout the entire universe, even the Martians would finally wake up and, leaning out of their secret caves, shook their finger at us: "You just can't, they are children ... "The BBC, the British Parliament, the freedom-loving press would immediately start shouting about the reprisals against the unwanted, about the criminal Putin regime, about Russian slaves, who will never be understood that only freedom opens the way for them to a bright, bright future, which the whole the "correct" gay European and Naglo-Saxon part of the world community, that only after returning to the 90s, Russia will gain freedom and the entire world community will be on its side, universal prosperity will immediately come, all the oligarchs will disappear, everyone will loans, everyone will have a new car, a house in the Bahamas and not a frail currency account, which they can use to the grave with their children, so that they too will understand how the "free west" made them happy. There will be universal grace and prosperity. No one will have to work, but will come to work, register and receive a salary for this ...
      What a great perspective !!! Just do not disperse the children, do not plant them, let them steer, control Russia, and you will all have everything, manna from heaven will be shed on you ...
      Who does not understand what kind of ass we are called by Gay Europeans and Naglo-Saxons, let him read the commentary again and ask himself the question: "Are we on the way with Gay Europeans and Naglo-Saxons?"

      "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong state, a united people, a prosperous country for centuries, which cannot be broken by internal and external enemies.
      1. -7
        5 August 2019 08: 48
        Quote: The Truth
        .Nasha Rosgvardiya and riot police are not so democratic that they drive under the arms of freaks, convince, persuade instead of acting as in a free gamerope .. "but in the muzzles !!! .."


        If only the howl would rise then throughout the entire universe, even the Martians would finally wake up and, leaning out of their secret caves, shook their finger at us: “You can't do that, they are children ..


        There will be universal grace and prosperity. No one will have to work, but they will come to work, celebrate and get paid for it ...

        1. +2
          5 August 2019 09: 05
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: The Truth
          .Nasha Rosgvardiya and riot police are not so democratic that they drive under the arms of freaks, convince, persuade instead of acting as in a free gamerope .. "but in the muzzles !!! .."


          If only the howl would rise then throughout the entire universe, even the Martians would finally wake up and, leaning out of their secret caves, shook their finger at us: “You can't do that, they are children ..


          There will be universal grace and prosperity. No one will have to work, but they will come to work, celebrate and get paid for it ...


          The rally can be suppressed even easier, all that is necessary ... to remove the police, riot police, the Rossguard and the grateful compatriots themselves will explain to this bunch of clicks and infantiles what the pound is now in the stock markets. After all, roads can be blocked only under the reliable protection of the security forces, without onts wrestlers risk getting injuries of the rectum from contact with the balloon key.
          1. -11
            5 August 2019 09: 33
            Quote: Rededi
            The rally can be suppressed even easier, all that is necessary ... to remove the police, riot police, the Russian guard and grateful compatriots themselves will explain to this bunch of clicks and infantiles what is now the pound dare in the stock markets.

            1. -3
              5 August 2019 10: 14
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Rededi
              The rally can be suppressed even easier, all that is necessary ... to remove the police, riot police, the Russian guard and grateful compatriots themselves will explain to this bunch of clicks and infantiles what is now the pound dare in the stock markets.


              The dominance of the Liberal Tikhars is detected. Completely "silent" cons. laughing
              1. -6
                5 August 2019 10: 21
                Quote: Rededi
                The dominance of the Liberal Tikhars is detected. Quite a silent cons

                And you can’t say more about them

            2. -2
              5 August 2019 12: 39
              They can give only a club with a baton, and for using special equipment not for the rank of another term, go
          2. +3
            5 August 2019 12: 09
            Quote: Rededi
            After all, roads can be blocked only under the reliable protection of the security forces, without onts wrestlers risk getting injuries of the rectum from contact with the balloon key.


            What a syllable! How much pathetics! How many promises! You tell Shiesu, Yekaterinburg and the Far East where people resist power. And you need to read Lenin, about the development of economic requirements into political ones.
            1. -3
              5 August 2019 13: 16
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Rededi
              After all, roads can be blocked only under the reliable protection of the security forces, without onts wrestlers risk getting injuries of the rectum from contact with the balloon key.


              What a syllable! How much pathetics! How many promises! You tell Shiesu, Yekaterinburg and the Far East where people resist power. And you need to read Lenin, about the development of economic requirements into political ones.

              So you accidentally revealed to everyone the obvious essence of the "protest movement".
              Quote: Silvestr
              people resist power

              That is, the main task is to resist the authorities, and the reasons are not important, there would be a reason. Although recently the reason is not important, if you really want to, then it is not difficult to come up with it, the rams will eat and quietly go to the slaughter. In Yekaterinburg, everyone saw perfectly well who was raising the storm - at least half of them were piled up and guests of the "capital of the Urals" from Moscow and St. Petersburg, but the locals came out against these "protestors". So there is no need for fairy tales.
              I just read Lenin and I do not observe the relationship of his works with the circus done by the bulk. Where did you see the economic demands? Screaming: - "We are the power here!"? Strange, however, "economy".
              1. +1
                5 August 2019 17: 35
                Quote: Rededi
                That is, the main task is to resist power,


                But is power not sinless?
                Reasons are not important and need a reason?
                Pension reform and falling incomes is not the reason?
                Okst, Navalny and you are sitting at the same feeding trough
          3. -1
            5 August 2019 18: 05
            "The rally can be suppressed even easier, all you need to do is ... remove the police from the streets, riot police, the Russian Guard and grateful compatriots themselves will explain to this gathering of hysterics and infantiles why the pound is out of control in the stock markets today." In Ukraine and Syria, this technique did not work - one was captured by nationalists, the other was almost completely destroyed by terrorists, in both cases, recharge came from abroad.
        2. +1
          5 August 2019 11: 28
          And you can also remember about America:
          1. -5
            5 August 2019 11: 34
            Quote: RWMos
            And you can also remember about America:

            Yes, so wherever they violate law and order.
            I can imagine what kind of stench would rise to take care of the GDP of the health of any "oppositionist"
            A rafter can be taken care of
          2. 0
            5 August 2019 11: 37
            Quote: RWMos
            And you can also remember about America:

            Yes, the Amersky cop with such an indifferent sharpening of demonstrators is watering. Apparently not out of the ordinary. laughing
    4. 0
      10 August 2019 14: 34
      And what is the opinion in Russia?
  2. +4
    5 August 2019 06: 39
    But something we did not hear the head of the transport department. American intelligence and analysts have long been unable to predict and foresee anything. Hence the anger, annoyance and recommendations - to crush an incomprehensible Russia.
    1. +7
      5 August 2019 08: 48
      The topic of the Moscow protests, having not had time to develop in the outbreaks of analyst activity coming up until September 8 and planned for some time after the elections, already managed to get bored, since this is not a simple people’s struggle for their rights.
      This is not our struggle!
      The slogan "For our and your freedom!" - is false, because behind it is only the passionate desire of the opposition leaders to cling to all sorts of "local" small feeders so far inaccessible, as well as the struggle of those oligarchs who are not allowed to the large state feeders or are pushed away from them.
      They throw the opinion of the collective West on the brutality of the Moscow police - it’s ridiculous to read! If I am not mistaken, yellow vests received 11 killed, 75 seriously injured, thousands of arrests, because this is a real struggle of ordinary people for the rights ... ordinary people!
      This is their struggle!
      And the capitalist authorities never forgive such a struggle. Rallies in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other large small cities of the country are just shabby decorations that our government allowed to take out of storerooms and "set up" on the streets so that the West could see some rudiments of democracy in our country on the eve of September 8th.
      This is just the scenery!
      And whoever is elected to different dumas on this day, this whole crowd of "people's choices" will quickly become a dancer for the authorities. For they are approached by representatives of such parties with which the authorities have agreed long ago. And supposedly independent candidates go to come to an agreement and get their rations. And all of them, having quickly sat down in their Duma seats, will begin to sleep even more soundly than the previous shift.
      We have no mechanism to wake them up!
      For their sleep is lethargic, and the courts, police and other law enforcement agencies, as well as human rights organizations, have long and skillfully included the authorities in their round dance with a code of laws.
      The power round dance is a vicious circle!
      Inside the circle there are abundant blessings of life, and yes, this circle is strong with legislation, its criminal violations and strong grip of the hands of each of the participants in the hands of neighbors. And spinning, spinning round dance ...
      We can’t get into it!
      Because in this - I do not want to.
      1. -1
        5 August 2019 10: 06
        Better than you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, and you will not say. Accurate analytics.
        1. 0
          5 August 2019 10: 41
          Thanks Nonna! :-)) I am always glad to see you! love
      2. +4
        5 August 2019 11: 50
        I will simply say - I was pleased! good
        Quote: depressant
        The power round dance is a vicious circle!

        I would say differently about power. The power pyramid is a closed society with estate and caste differences and the difference in property qualification. Entrance to all sorts of and strangers is strictly limited. Not prohibited - no! It is simply dosed so that the remaining tens of millions feel involved in the governance of the country. They felt themselves to be a full-fledged carrier and life-giving sources of power, because among the people there are athletes (albeit not achieving high results), workers (albeit choosing a profession to work and create) and just people who have not achieved their childhood dreams of becoming an astronaut, academician, general ... But you never know. Well, they did not fall into the power structures, but there is participation in the choice (albeit not quite the one that was dreamed of).
        Quote: depressant
        Inside the circle there are abundant blessings of life, and yes, this circle is strong with legislation, its criminal violations and strong grip of the hands of each of the participants in the hands of neighbors.

        The abundant benefits within the circle are the excessive powers delegated by voters to people with a pimple conscience. Not only are these “servants of the people” constantly pointing their voters to a seat at the table, they also came up with two states for them: either there are nowhere to put cars in the poor in the yards, or you need to get out of the couch and go to work. Such proposals are interesting to those who do not just have a car and the yard itself, and those who work and work, and the salary can provide him with rest, at best, only on the couch.
        This circle is not strong in legislation, but is excluded from the bulk by restrictions, privileges, additional status and amendments to legislation. And life itself in the country is adjusted in the manner of thieves' concepts, when a thief is guaranteed a high position both in the wild and in the zone, unlike ordinary men and women. This circular, thieveship guarantee has already received its interpretation (there is a specific vocabulary. Which cannot be cut out of the film):

        And it’s also useful to know that things are not done abruptly and with a kondachka, because
        You can’t beat the whip with your butt!
        hi
      3. BAI
        +3
        5 August 2019 15: 39
        However, after the first demonstrations of the white-collar workers, the enraged printer of the State Duma adopted immediately in 3 readings a law restricting such demonstrations. Perhaps this is still not quite the scenery.
  3. +4
    5 August 2019 06: 45
    Protests, fussing for a place at the trough. Well, arrests like "corrupt officials" are a classic: "What did you do with the merchant Chernyaev - eh? He gave you two yards of cloth for your uniform, and you pulled off the whole thing. Look! You don't take it by rank!" Go. " Probably there is no such data, which would indicate how much was stolen, how much was returned and what the returned money was spent on ...
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 07: 27
      Quote: parusnik
      Protests, fussing for a seat at the trough.

      That's for sure! Showy fuss of American puppets - "bulk" for a place at the trough!
      Yes, but they, as they say, didn’t go out with a snout in order to be allowed to the trough!
      1. +3
        5 August 2019 07: 42
        American puppets are fighting for a place at the trough, and those for whom the Americans are partners and other Western "comrades" are eating out of the trough ... And this is stated officially. We have no enemies ... there are only partners ... Only one thing is not clear what is the difference between American puppets and those for whom Americans are partners ...
        1. +3
          5 August 2019 07: 52
          Quote: parusnik
          ..... We have no enemies ... partners alone .. Only one thing is not clear what is the difference between American puppets and those for whom Americans are partners ...
          It’s interesting, but what do our very partners call us? I doubt that partners.
          1. -12
            5 August 2019 08: 02
            Quote: Reptiloid
            I doubt that partners.

            Do you care? I personally drum.
            Small dog barks louder
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 08: 09
              Quote: Lipchanin
              ... Do you care? I’m personally on the drum. A small dog barks louder

              And this word infuriated me, because nowhere is any partnership visible, and at the same time a kind of stubborn fawning.
              1. -6
                5 August 2019 08: 17
                Quote: Reptiloid
                since no partnership is visible anywhere,

                Negotiating partner doesn't suit you?
                There are more meanings. Choose
                Synonyms
                companion
                Antonyms
                competitor
                Hyperonyms
                party

                while such a persistent fawning.

                But where do you see the fawning ???
                Do they hate us so much for "fawning"?
                90s remember. That's when there was a fawning
          2. -1
            5 August 2019 08: 13
            Dmitry, do you think that in the event of a rearrangement of the places of the terms, the amount will change? And the ratio to the sum will change? The essence of those protests and those who accelerate one .. Fuck, against a radish ... or a radish against horseradish .. no difference ... including and for the "partners" type ...
            1. +2
              5 August 2019 08: 52
              "Like partners" only need unrest, preferably a revolution like the Ukrainian one.
              This was perfectly demonstrated by the last action of the "opposition".
              Does the government understand this? I am sure he understands perfectly. You can ignore the name "partners".
              1. -8
                5 August 2019 09: 09
                Quote: Mestny
                You can ignore the name "partners".

                No way people will understand that this is only a diplomatic term
                Well, there will not be a man brought up publicly
                Do not confuse a politician with a "journalist" on Georgian television
              2. -1
                5 August 2019 09: 19
                You can ignore the name "partners".
                ... Do we always respond to the sanctions of partners with mirror images or express concern? .. Partners all the same ... of course you can ignore ... A revolution like in Ukraine, is it when instead of some oligarchs others come? And what about fair elections in Ukraine, this is when the "father" who gave birth to one "son", decided to change for another, knowing that this business will not take away and will pour gold in his pockets? And at the head of the "opposition" are those who were at the trough in the 90s, and then others were pushed aside? .. Horseradish against radish
                1. +2
                  5 August 2019 09: 29
                  Quote: parusnik
                  ..... And honest elections in Ukraine, is when the "father" who gave birth to one "son", decided to change for another, knowing that this business will not take away and will pour gold in his pockets? And at the head of the "opposition" are those who were at the trough in the 90s, and then others were pushed aside? .. Horseradish against radish
                  that’s exactly what it should be like under KAPITAKLISME ---- capital-klimic elections, capital-klismatic opposition, capital-klismatic senators in the capital-klismatic senate ..... The main slogan is --- there isn’t enough higher ones --- take them from the lower ones!
                  Pension reform in the Russian Federation and other innovations.
                2. -7
                  5 August 2019 09: 38
                  Quote: parusnik
                  Partners all the same ... of course you can not pay attention ..

                  I’m chewing again.
                  This is just a diplomatic term. What are you all for this word clutching?
                  Judged by cases.
                  Since they HATE GDP, and Russia, then EVERYTHING is done right
                  1. 0
                    5 August 2019 09: 47
                    Why keep emphasized diplomacy after the Skirpals, the Olympics, sanctions, and all the rest.
                    1. -7
                      5 August 2019 10: 07
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      Why keep emphasized diplomacy after the Skirpals, the Olympics, sanctions, and all the rest.

                      Mate start to swear? Like them?
                      Or maybe it’s better to show that we are civilized people, and not sloths
                      1. +1
                        5 August 2019 12: 14
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Or maybe it’s better to show what exactly WE are civilized peopleand not wasteland

                        Do not you think that your arguments are, to put it mildly, “stale”.
                        Civilization - one of the basic units of historical time, denoting a long-existing, self-sufficient community of countries and peoples, the uniqueness of which is due to sociocultural reasons. Civilization is like a living organism, which goes from birth to death, constantly reproducing itself and giving a unique originality to all the processes taking place in it.
                        What stage are we at? Do not deign to announce? You are already completely out of place about the empty breach and you haven’t remembered the fairy-tale face you loved. Since the beginning of the 90s, we have already seen your civilization. This is how it looks:
                      2. -5
                        5 August 2019 12: 52
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        Since the beginning of the 90s, we have already seen your civilization. That's the way she looks

                        Something beguiled. About civilization, I said in the sense that you don’t have to be like a Pithecanthropus with a club, but you need to speak a normal, human language.
                        And I also posted this video below.
                        See what comments and for what reason.
            2. +1
              5 August 2019 09: 04
              Quote: parusnik
              Dmitry, do you think that in the case of a rearrangement of the terms of the terms, the amount will change? And will the ratio change? The essence of those protests and those who disperse one ....
              What am I thinking? And I believe that under KAPITAKLISME ---- everything is capital-enema. Otherwise it can not be. To wait for another --- to be naive beyond his years, or to deliberately lie. This is my opinion. Only ALEXANDER GREEN, here on the site, as well as Professor Popov in stories and books, speak much better than me, speak the terms.
              In the first lines, in the sense of speeches at the St. Petersburg rally, there were words that supported Sable and Navalny. So why doubt it. And so it is clear.
              1. -6
                5 August 2019 09: 39
                Quote: Reptiloid
                In the first lines, in the sense of speeches at the St. Petersburg rally there were words that support Sable and Bulk.

                1. +2
                  5 August 2019 09: 44
                  So only deaf people did not hear about her relatives.
                  1. +2
                    5 August 2019 11: 26
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    So only deaf people did not hear about her relatives.

                    And with such a background, someone else supports her. Apparently for liberda these are feats worthy of respect. The question arises: who, then, are the liberals themselves, if they have such "heroes"?
                2. -2
                  5 August 2019 10: 27
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  In the first lines, in the sense of speeches at the St. Petersburg rally there were words that support Sable and Bulk.


                  The daughter has not yet shown herself. Apparently for this, she regularly falls from a rabid little animal, according to Lyubasha’s neighbors.
                  1. -4
                    5 August 2019 10: 38
                    Quote: Rededi
                    The daughter has not yet shown herself.

                    But already pretty bad
                    1. +5
                      5 August 2019 12: 49
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      But already pretty bad

                      You all have some kind of comparisons on related channels ... We have a son for a father, and a daughter for a mother is not responsible ... Yes
                      Brother Alexander wanted to kill the king and was executed. And the younger brother Volodya said:
                      "We'll go the other way" ... and headed the world's first socialist state ...
                      Pope Arkady was a hero of the Civil War and (I will not list negative merits) as a children's writer, his son Timur graduated from the Leningrad Higher Naval School in 1948, the journalism department of the Military Political Academy named after Lenin in 1954. He served in a submarine as part of the Baltic and Pacific fleets. Later he worked in the newspapers Sovetsky Fleet and Krasnaya Zvezda, and since 1957, in the newspaper Pravda, and his grandson Egor said:
                      "We'll go the other way" ... and organized "shock therapy" to the people of Russia.
                      Or, Pope Volodya defended the city of Leningrad from the Nazis, defended the socialist system, which gave his son Volodya the opportunity to grow up, learn, get his chosen profession, and his son said:
                      "We'll go the other way" ... and arranged for himself (most likely at the request of the Russian people) the four terms of the presidency and claims that there will be no return to socialism ...
                      Who to believe? Who to bet on? wassat
                      You are not even able to admit that "unpopular in Moscow bureaucratic circles" candidates (but what do you really care that they wanted to go to power?) Have the right to participate in elections on general legal grounds. But when the law is turned inside out, when the indignation of voters (they also have the right) poured out into the streets, you start talking nonsense about some Vlasovites, some nephews ...
                      For me, Mr. Chubais, who personally deprived me of a share of state property, and Mr. Gref, who minimized the cost of compensating deposits, are worse than the Vlasovites. For the benefit of their activities for me does not exist in nature.
                      You and your supporters do not care who you pour slop over. Grudinin - for daring to nominate ... Navalny - for his revelations, which have a high rating in society ... Platoshkina - for "encroaching" on a party created with the assistance of the KGB ... Only someone becomes popular - you right:
                      “Our neighbor is an ignoramus; crazy;
                      He is Freemason; he drinks one
                      A glass of red wine;
                      He does not fit the ladies;
                      All yes yes no; won't say yes
                      Or no, sir. ” That was the common voice.

                      Let the actions of the police are considered legal - prevented a coup ... wassat And where they are, another administrative chaos has been going on for years:
                      check out the YouTube videos when the police are not visible from the word "generally" ...
                      1. -2
                        5 August 2019 13: 42
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        You all have some kind of comparisons on related channels ...

                        Doesn't she stink?
                        ... Grudinin - for daring to nominate a candidate ... Navalny - for his revelations, which have a high rating in society ... Platoshkin - for "encroaching" on a party created with the assistance of the KGB ...

                        And where did I say something besides the basement about these characters?
                        The lies of the basement have been exposed more than once.
                        For the first time I hear from you about "high" rating, and I have never seen any polls where his name appears
                        check out the YouTube videos when the police are not visible from the word "generally" ...

                        But this is not an argument at all.
                        Videos "For" and "against" your position can be found in bulk
                        Let the actions of the police are considered legitimate - they prevented a coup d'etat ..

                        If it's not difficult, remember how the coup d'etat began among the neighbors. Letting then "Berkut" disperse the first gatherings, the Maidan would not have taken place.
                        And there wouldn’t be a civil war there.
                        Do you regret it?
                        -
                      2. -4
                        5 August 2019 19: 20
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        And there wouldn’t be a civil war there.

                        There’s a civil war because Russia is climbing into Ukraine’s affairs. Now, the people have quite peacefully driven radicals out of the Rada through elections. Is there a civil war in Georgia?
                      3. +5
                        5 August 2019 14: 42
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        You are not even able to admit that "unpopular in Moscow bureaucratic circles" candidates (but what do you really care that they wanted to go to power?) Have the right to participate in elections legally. But when the law is turned inside out, when the indignation of the voters (they also have the right) spilled out onto the streets, you begin to carry nonsense about some Vlasovites, about some nephews ...
                        This is the point that the general legal grounds of these candidates for candidates are not satisfied. Give them separate conditions, and if not, then everything is at the ̶b̶a̶r̶r̶i̶k̶a̶d̶y̶ disorder. Even without taking into account the "linden" they could not collect the required number of votes. What laws are you talking about? The ones that this whole pack is unanimously violating?
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        outrage

                        Voters, as I understand it, do you call puberty youth? Or guests from sunny Ukraine? Yes, such authorities should listen. laughing
                        Quote: ROSS 42
                        carry nonsense about some Vlasovites,

                        So the position of the granddaughter is not much different from the position of the grandfather. That's why they remember.
      2. +1
        5 August 2019 09: 08
        Quote: Tatiana
        That's for sure! Showy fuss of American puppets - "bulk" for a place at the trough!

        If you do not steal the authorities, do not squeeze the people and think about the good of the Fatherland, then they simply will not be "piled up". And so, everything that Navalny showed is true. The authorities were unable to refute a single fact.
        1. +3
          5 August 2019 10: 26
          Quote: Antique
          If you do not steal the authorities, do not squeeze the people and think about the good of the Fatherland, then they simply will not be "piled up".

          "Bulk" will always be. They were under the tsars, they were under the communists ... There is even a saying: in a big family not without ... not without "bulk". laughing
          1. -3
            5 August 2019 13: 49
            And that the bulk lied in his videos? After all, he shows the truth.
            1. +4
              5 August 2019 18: 08
              This his "truth" is not supported by any document - and this information is designed primarily for suckers - it is easiest for them to sniff it.
              1. -5
                5 August 2019 22: 09
                Quote: Vadim237
                This "truth" of his is not supported by any document

                As a rule, it is usually reinforced. And there are screenshots. In vain so. He is a sanitizer. Tries to destroy filthy parasites.
                1. +3
                  6 August 2019 00: 49
                  He breeds the same parasites as he does - and you crawl into this incubator and participate in it.
          2. -3
            5 August 2019 14: 44
            Quote: Less
            "Bulk" will always be. They were under the tsars, they were under the communists ... There is even a saying: in a big family not without ... not without "bulk".


            I wonder who is in your understanding of "Navalnyata"? The same Navalny is supported by different age categories of citizens, these are not only schoolchildren, but also people of middle and elderly ages, as well as in various segments of the population. These can be not only Muscovites, but also people from other regions who have incomes of very different levels. And there is a reason for this ..... now Navalny is probably the only one who at least somehow represents the opposition - the authorities. And that's all) There is no more opposition in the country, the same "opposition" parties that are represented in the State Duma have long merged with the government and only imitate opposition to the government .... By the way, I also had a negative attitude towards Navalny and his support group, but with everyone Over the year, the negative towards the government is growing more and more because of the policy that it has been pursuing in recent years (especially 2018-2019), and there is no end in sight of such a policy. And regarding another opposition in the country, it simply does not exist, the state simply crushed the opposition, and the one that exists can only be financed from abroad, since inside the country the authorities have completely cleared everyone who could pose at least some kind of threat.
            1. +6
              5 August 2019 14: 54
              Quote: Aleksandr21
              Now Navalny is probably the only one who at least somehow represents the opposition - the authorities. And all) There is no more opposition in the country,

              And Navalny is also never the opposition. He is anyone, but not the opposition. The opposition, which aims at organizing unrest, is not the opposition. The opposition may in some issues agree / disagree with the authorities, but it must act within the framework of the law. Otherwise, it’s not the opposition, but some fifth column ...
              Now, when I see that Navalny is doing something for the benefit of the people, then he will become interesting to me, and while he is exclusively involved in organizing unrest, he will not cause me contempt.
              1. -5
                5 August 2019 15: 09
                Quote: Less
                The opposition, which aims at organizing unrest, is not the opposition.


                I don't know what kind of riots you are talking about, take the same Ukraine and Euromaidan, when they burned a golden eagle with Molotov cocktails, this is a riot, and so people went to a rally (I mean on August 3) - they have a legal right, no one has yet a constitution canceled, the same YouTube channel "Movement" look at your leisure, and how they covered the topic with these rallies, from the point of view of the law, there are no questions to them, but there are a lot of actions of the National Guard officers.
                1. +5
                  5 August 2019 15: 39
                  Quote: Aleksandr21
                  and so people went to the rally (I mean 3 of August) - they have a legal right, no one has yet canceled the constitution,

                  while other people have the legal () constitutional, by the way) right to drive cars along the same streets, walk with children along the same routes, and in the end, people have the right to silence under their windows. And whose right is "more right"?
                  Quote: Aleksandr21
                  look at the same YouTube channel "Movement" at your leisure,

                  I too rarely have "leisure" to spend it watching YouTube.
                  Quote: Aleksandr21
                  from the point of view of the law, there are no questions for them,

                  Really?
                  1. -5
                    5 August 2019 15: 59
                    Quote: Less
                    while other people have the legal () constitutional, by the way) right to drive cars along the same streets, walk with children along the same routes, and in the end, people have the right to silence under their windows. And whose right is "more right"?


                    And is someone forbidding these people? Nobody bothered to move in cars (there were obviously not millions), people (judging by the video) came with their children "along the same routes" but I understood your position.

                    Quote: Less
                    I too rarely have "leisure" to spend it watching YouTube.


                    It is your right.

                    Quote: Less
                    Really?


                    Truth. Although it is useless to discuss something if you do not have time for this, well, or desire.
                    1. +4
                      5 August 2019 18: 30
                      Quote: Aleksandr21
                      Nobody bothered to move on cars (there were clearly not millions)

                      True? Have you heard about the blocking of the Garden Ring? Or did the Dvizhenie channel modestly keep silent about this "feat" of the Kriaklov?
                2. +5
                  5 August 2019 18: 23
                  Quote: Aleksandr21
                  Quote: Less
                  The opposition, which aims at organizing unrest, is not the opposition.


                  I don’t know what kind of riots you’re talking about, take the same Ukraine and Euromaidan, when a golden eagle was burned with Molotov cocktails, this is a riot, and so people went to the rally (I mean on August 3) - they have a legal right, no one has yet a constitution canceled, the same YouTube channel "Movement" look at your leisure, and how they covered the topic with these rallies, from the point of view of the law, there are no questions to them.
                  From the point of view of the law, there is one question for them; what did they do at the illegal rally?
                  But the actions of the Rosgvard’s employees are many.

                  Participation in meetings is regulated by law, and the Constitution reflects only general concepts. Article No. 33 provides for the direct participation of citizens in public administration. Would you like a decree to write to the cabinet?
                  Quote: Aleksandr21
                  and so people went to the rally (August 3, I mean)

                  Uncoordinated, read - an illegal rally.
                  Quote: Aleksandr21
                  from the point of view of the law, there are no questions for them, but there are a lot of actions by Rosgvard officers.

                  And what are the questions for the Russian Guard? Did they somehow violate the Charter, or act outside the legal field? Give examples.
              2. -4
                5 August 2019 19: 24
                Quote: Less
                but she must act within the law

                So the government does not allow doing within the framework of the law - it manipulates signatures, votes
                1. +4
                  5 August 2019 19: 50
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  within the law, she manipulates signatures, votes

                  Yes? Do the authorities need these manipulations? If the authorities, according to some, "manipulate signatures, votes, rig elections and so on," so why should this almighty government bother with a handful of little-known personalities not allowed to the elections? I may be wrong, but in my opinion, purely logically, this scandal with signatures is beneficial exclusively to candidates who were not admitted to the elections. And no one else. Although, of course, I may not see something from the provinces, but none of the Muscovites with whom I (glory to the Internet) have been communicating for several years, did not even mention these events in conversations ...
        2. 0
          5 August 2019 10: 30
          Quote: Antique
          And so, all that Navalny showed is true. The authorities could not refute a single fact.

          Is rape also true? Or is the court decision not a rebuttal? Navalny should tell why he, being the main person involved in two criminal cases, escaped with a suspended sentence, and his accomplices got real ones. That would be an investigation. laughing
          1. -2
            5 August 2019 13: 51
            I saw his video about palaces and estates of power. Everything is true there, so they put him in prison for 30 days not for these videos, but for calls to rallies.
            1. 0
              5 August 2019 14: 05
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              I saw his video about palaces and estates of power. Everything is true there, so they put him in prison for 30 days not for these videos, but for calls to rallies.

              What is the truth? In his maxims on the topic "the house belongs to a friend of Medvedev, then this is Medvedev’s house"? And about the landings, so no one disputed.
            2. +5
              5 August 2019 14: 09
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              I saw his video about palaces and estates of power. Everything is true there

              But I didn’t see, seriously, there’s no time to look, there’s a lot of work. And on what basis did you decide that this was true? About the palaces? And if it’s not difficult, the essence of the video in your own words will not tell you briefly? Together with the arguments, thanks to which you decided that it was true ...
            3. +1
              5 August 2019 16: 20
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              I saw his video about palaces and estates of power. Everything is true there

              And even saw the documents to whom do these palaces and estates belong?
              I can rent such palaces anywhere abroad, and tell you that they are in your garden.
              By the way, did you see Galkin’s castle? Also built on stolen money?
            4. -6
              5 August 2019 19: 30
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              and for calls for rallies

              But is there a law to sit down for appeals? Or is it so universal that it can be interpreted?
          2. -2
            5 August 2019 15: 09
            Why did you move so modestly.
            They write about palaces, yachts, a bunch of real estate abroad.
            Has anyone sued? Disproved? Not true?
            1. +4
              5 August 2019 17: 01
              Quote: Revival
              Why did you move so modestly.
              They write about palaces, yachts, a bunch of real estate abroad.
              Has anyone sued? Disproved? Not true?

              Having property abroad is not a crime. The lawsuit is nil. By the way, did the documents for this property also show? And there are the names of Putin, Medvedev? Do not share the link.
            2. +4
              5 August 2019 18: 13
              This is because those about whom he writes, his videos are not watched and they will not spend their time on any shusher who is just waiting for what they would pay attention to.
      3. -3
        5 August 2019 12: 53
        And who came out with a snout?
        And what kind of source code are such a trough and snout.
        That is, those who right now are the ones with him and with him?
      4. -2
        5 August 2019 16: 45
        they didn’t go out with a snout to admit them to the trough!
        That is, you want to say that the members of the government and the deputies have "snouts"?
        1. +3
          5 August 2019 18: 38
          Quote: Gardamir
          they didn’t go out with a snout to admit them to the trough!
          That is, you want to say that the members of the government and the deputies have "snouts"?

          Well, some definitely.
  4. +22
    5 August 2019 06: 55
    At one time, Roosevelt defeated the impending social revolution in the United States with the help of "refrigerators and full pots." By giving the workers work and conditions to earn money and feed their families. Our modern government, with the help of the same weapon, LOSES the fight. How do people who, not only are not able to increase the well-being of the population, but reduce it, remain "irreplaceable in power"? Sorry, but this is a clear path to social explosion, which has been proven more than once or twice by history.
    1. -10
      5 August 2019 07: 21
      A respected explosion of this social create from outside is what has been proven by history more than once. And do not powder people’s brains. Dissatisfied will always be no matter how well the people live. And all these protesters galloping that they offer the people nothing more than empty talk. They just want the authorities to fill their pockets once again to plunder the country and topple over the hill. It is obvious neither raise salary pensions to develop the economy, etc. D, etc. This is in short.
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      2. -13
        5 August 2019 07: 25
        Quote: A.K.
        And all these protesters galloping that they offer the people nothing more than empty talk.

        1. +4
          5 August 2019 10: 12
          How would you, uncle, (Lipchanin) annoy you here with your Kremlin agitation - do you have VK here? where youngsters sit and chew popcorn from olga trolls
          1. -6
            5 August 2019 10: 26
            Quote: Nonna
            It’s like, uncle, (Lipchanin) you're tired of here with your Kremlin agitation

            Yeah, how are you, the State Department grant-eater is tired of it.
            Yes, I would be proud if I received agitation from the Kremlin.
            Not from the Phashington regional committee of the training manual like you.
            And what I post is national folkship, not a liberal push for the State Department
            1. -1
              5 August 2019 10: 51
              Yes, yes, Uncle Sirozh - this is folk art for a small bribe, teenagers blurt out for thousands, and you, in an agitation rage, re-post them. It seems that only yesterday we learned to use the keyboard and went online. And about the Kremlin - write to the administration. President, so that they give you an assignment (preferably paid), otherwise their servants ended up working for free
              1. -9
                5 August 2019 11: 20
                Quote: Nonna
                this folk art for a small bribe teens blurt out in thousands,

                And the liberoid part of the site has incontrovertible proof of
                Specify the amount of "bribe". pzhlt
                And about the Kremlin - write to the administration. President, to give you the task (preferably paid)

                And I, unlike grant-eaters, on a voluntary basis
                otherwise their servants ended up working for free

                But at the Phashington regional committee, the liberal strata will never end, because you have nothing for your soul. Sell ​​everything for American rubles

                1. +1
                  5 August 2019 13: 26
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: Nonna
                  this folk art for a small bribe teens blurt out in thousands,

                  And the liberoid part of the site has incontrovertible proof of
                  Specify the amount of "bribe". pzhlt
                  And about the Kremlin - write to the administration. President, to give you the task (preferably paid)

                  And I, unlike grant-eaters, on a voluntary basis
                  otherwise their servants ended up working for free

                  But at the Phashington regional committee, the liberal strata will never end, because you have nothing for your soul. Sell ​​everything for American rubles


                  You really emboss the video with the main liberoid of the country!
                  Who is the one-way coverage of the topic you get
                  1. +4
                    5 August 2019 13: 36
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    You really emboss the video with the main liberoid of the country!

                    Here and now - we are talking about true liberoids, fed by striped "partners".

                    The video you propose to this topic - no sideways.
                    1. -2
                      5 August 2019 14: 24
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      The video you propose to this topic - no sideways.

                      Mr. Silvestr has such a manner of conducting dialogues. Nothing to say, changes the subject abruptly
                    2. -1
                      5 August 2019 17: 28
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      The video you propose to this topic - no sideways.


                      Jack! You are a smart person! There are still plenty of videos not only with him, but also about him and the liberal course
                  2. -1
                    5 August 2019 14: 22
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    You really emboss the video with the main liberoid of the country!

                    I look disgusted at the basement
                    1. -2
                      5 August 2019 17: 30
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      You really emboss the video with the main liberoid of the country!

                      I look disgusted at the basement


                      Jack! You see, a man does not know the materiel! Enlighten the "oracle" about whom it is a question. It looks like a bottom
                      1. +3
                        5 August 2019 17: 42
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        Jack

                        Novel. With your permission, of course. Jack - here he is:


                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        You really emboss the video with the main liberoid of the country!

                        I look disgusted at the basement

                        IMHO: the man answered you everything correctly. The main "liberoid" of the country at the present time is precisely Mr. Navalny.

                        Your exercises on the topic "Putin is a liberal" are tired, it seems, even you yourself - get out, ask others to "squeeze" laughing
                      2. -2
                        5 August 2019 21: 03
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Novel. With your permission, of course. Jack - here he is:

                        understood, Roman! hi
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        The main "liberoid"

                        You are a connoisseur of the Russian language, explain the word "liberoid". In my opinion, there is no such word.
                      3. +3
                        5 August 2019 21: 33
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        explain the word "liberoid"

                        This is neologism, something very abusive, to the sensation.

                        In general - it’s just right for Navalny, IMHO Yes
                      4. -4
                        5 August 2019 19: 16
                        Renouncing your idol? belay
                        Separate from the State Department laughing
                        It looks like a bottom

                        And how do you like it there? Is it comfortable?
                2. +2
                  5 August 2019 18: 18
                  All of them are "poluchantsy" - some from a life in which they could not do or did not do anything sensible, others from their arrogance and greed.
              2. -7
                5 August 2019 12: 54
                Roller one is gone
                About liberoids feeder
          2. +3
            5 August 2019 13: 23
            Quote: Nonna
            How would you, uncle, (Lipchanin) annoy you here with your Kremlin agitation - do you have VK here? where youngsters sit and chew popcorn from olga trolls

            It’s for sure, and doesn’t read laws, the State Duma doesn’t read, it doesn’t listen to members of the government. The main thing is to scream louder
            1. +5
              5 August 2019 14: 41
              Quote: Silvestr
              It’s for sure, and doesn’t read laws, the State Duma doesn’t read, it doesn’t listen to members of the government. The main thing is to scream louder

              Why are you outraged? You have two comments from three of the same pictures, only in the opposite direction) laughing
              1. -2
                5 August 2019 17: 24
                Quote: Less
                Why are you outraged?


                I AM? No! I make fun of a man, a patriot of the government who does not even bother to listen to him or read
      3. +10
        5 August 2019 07: 41
        Quote: A.K.
        A respected explosion of this social create from outside is what has been proven by history more than once.

        From outside ???????? From outside, they only take advantage of the situation. The conditions for such an explosion are created only INSIDE.
        Quote: A.K.
        And all these protesters galloping that they offer the people nothing more than empty talk.

        And are you sure that all the protesters are leaving just for this? Yes, this is happiness, if this is still so, it will be worse when people come out to support them, for whom the main thing will be simply to remove the "disgusted" government.
        Quote: A.K.
        This is for short.

        Unfortunately, more than one country has undergone a social explosion due to the fact that its power did not think "longer"
        1. -5
          5 August 2019 08: 56
          The fact is that in the overwhelming majority of cases, power becomes “hated” only in the minds of activists as a result of active brainwashing.
          As long as the rest of the population understands that this is empty talk (and this is by definition, without options) everything will be all right.
          1. +3
            5 August 2019 09: 16
            Quote: Mestny
            While the rest of the population understands

            Unfortunately, but our government really does everything to make it really "for now" ... Have you seen the latest data on the increased number of people below the poverty line? Do you think this is a "stabilizing" factor?
          2. -7
            5 August 2019 13: 56
            Empty chatter, it comes from the authorities. May decrees, this is not idle chatter, but a "direct line" with the people, what is that?
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      4. +1
        5 August 2019 12: 10
        I completely agree with you, but the state also always sets the stage for this, also proved by history.
    2. +8
      5 August 2019 09: 54
      Quote: svp67
      At one time, Roosevelt defeated the impending social revolution in the United States with the help of "refrigerators and full pots." By giving the workers work and conditions to earn money and feed their families.
      - if you are about the Great Depression, then there is about "EARN" there wasn’t even a hint ...
      They worked on road construction practically for soldering, lived in camps ..... moreover, in some camps, there was even security on the towers and time limits were limited in time ...
    3. +3
      5 August 2019 18: 01
      Quote: svp67
      By giving workers work and conditions, they can earn and feed their families normally

      Would you at least take an interest in the history of this issue or something ...
  5. +5
    5 August 2019 06: 57
    Stephen Sestanovich from Columbia University ... one step remains to instability in Russia
    These "Colombian universities" are in a rush to wishful thinking. It is enough to look at those who "walked" on this and last Saturday and tried to provoke the law enforcement officers to understand that the authorities will no longer flirt with them and will not flirt with them. It is high time to start cleaning the most "democratic", "handshake", pimply "revolutionaries" and other foam.
    1. +4
      5 August 2019 07: 15
      even more) a person does not understand so much about the country about which he writes that he really thinks that having shown rigidity to this Sabbath will be the reaction of the people))) but on the contrary they will say thanks. divorced experts ...
      1. +2
        5 August 2019 07: 19
        Yes, on the contrary, they will say thanks ...
        So 70% said, speaking in favor of tougher measures in relation to those who prevent people from living and at the same time yelling: "We are the power!"
        1. -15
          5 August 2019 07: 25
          Quote: rotmistr60
          So 70% said, speaking in favor of tougher measures in relation to those who prevent people from living and at the same time yelling: "We are the power!"

          1. +2
            5 August 2019 13: 30
            Yes, you provocateur! The call of the officer related to the fight against terrorists, you attributed to the fight against their peaceful fellow citizens. Bottom!
            1. 0
              5 August 2019 14: 30
              Quote: Silvestr
              Counter-Terrorism Officer Call

              But terrorists and maydanutyh have one goal, the violent overthrow of power. Both those and those exist on the State Department money.
              One difference is that terrorists are shot like mad dogs, and rightly so, liberals are not yet publicly beaten on the face
            2. -1
              5 August 2019 17: 06
              Quote: Silvestr
              The call of the officer related to the fight against terrorists, you attributed to the fight against their peaceful fellow citizens. Bottom!

              The bottom is when you commented on the same post in a different way.
              Double Standards
          2. +1
            5 August 2019 13: 59
            Lipchanin, yes you, under the pretext of protection from the Maidan, advocate the protection of oligarchs from the people.
            1. +2
              5 August 2019 14: 28
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Lipchanin, yes you, under the pretext of protection from the Maidan, advocate the protection of oligarchs from the people.

              Show me the slogans, or the demands of "Down with the oligarchs" at these sabbats?
              A maidan, by the way, was under this slogan. But the oligarch was brought to power.
            2. 0
              5 August 2019 15: 27
              Do not waste time on the person who directly wrote to me that he is ready to be a slave if such a law is adopted. Since no law can be violated, even such a law cannot be judged by people themselves whether the law is bad or good. He made his choice ..
              What can I discuss
            3. +4
              5 August 2019 18: 21
              We advocate the protection of the people from the stupid actions of the people.
    2. -12
      5 August 2019 07: 22
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is enough to look at those who "walked" on this and last Saturday and tried to provoke the law enforcement officers to understand that the authorities will no longer flirt with them and will not flirt with them. It is high time to start cleaning the most "democratic", "handshake", pimply "revolutionaries" and other foam.

      Yes here they are
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 07: 54
        One question torments, how did it happen that this unscrupulous generation that grew up in free and democratic Russia and every second iPhone for 40 thousand sold an apple and went to a rally? Maybe in order to, if successful, get your place at the trough to get already 8 iPhones for yourself to own? And no more?
        1. -1
          5 August 2019 09: 07
          Brainwashing technology has been working long and well. Especially if the brains are initially empty.
          And yes, 8 iPhones, free beer, expensive cars. The same in America is given to everyone. And power has stolen everything from us, so they don’t give anything to anyone.
          I exaggerate of course, but you don’t imagine the level of understanding of reality in such as in the photo. There are even adults with similar brains. With such is the same as talking to the radio.
          No matter what you tell him, the answer is a set of slogans, one and the same.
          1. -9
            5 August 2019 09: 42
            Quote: Mestny
            There are even adults with similar brains. With such is the same as talking to the radio.

            On all branches about liberal covens confirmation of your words.
          2. -1
            5 August 2019 14: 01
            Brainwashing technology has been working long and well.

            That's it, our TV has successfully mastered these technologies and brainwashed Russians in full.
          3. +1
            5 August 2019 16: 37
            Brainwashing technology has been working long and well. Especially if the brains are initially empty.
            ... Are they really American propaganda brainwashed, especially empty ... They all came from the United States laughing
            There are even adults with similar brains.
            ... And you know a lot, I remember how their foam flew from the mouth to Yeltsin's screams! Yeltsin! at numerous rallies in the JCC and at stadiums in the late 80s and the beginning of the 90s and we were not ordered to disperse this coven .. But now the coven is the same, the slogans are different .. Fuck, against the radish ... Some liberals against others .. .With such people it’s like talking to the radio. No matter what you tell him, the answer is a set of slogans, the same ones.... And do not say, the slogans are the same: Let us go to the feeder, we want 8 iPhones .. and other things ... abroad will help us ..
      2. +2
        5 August 2019 09: 25
        Ghouls are corrupt.
      3. +3
        5 August 2019 12: 59
        You posted a picture of an agitation, show it an iPhone, can you?
    3. +2
      5 August 2019 09: 05
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is high time to start cleaning the most "democratic", "handshake", pimply "revolutionaries" and other foam.

      I support. You need to start right from the White House and the Kremlin, then everywhere, governor and mayor residences.
      1. -3
        5 August 2019 09: 19
        Quote: Antique
        You have to start right from the White House

        In-in, from the one whose ears stick out behind all these "revolutions".
        1. -5
          5 August 2019 09: 43
          Quote: Rededi
          In-in, from the one whose ears stick out behind all these "revolutions".

          Not only ears, but also pieces of paper with the dead
  6. +1
    5 August 2019 07: 07
    What a profound study, already breathtaking. And where are such cheaters prepared! laughing
  7. +9
    5 August 2019 07: 40
    "Working beggars" and "unemployed millionaires" are the main reason for all the outrage in society. The first will be khataskrayniks, because whom they protect, those thanks to whom they will work even more and become impoverished, and the second, the witnesses, are creative, they need movement and hype, they are stuffy and need a breath of democracy and for this they can put the whole state under the knife. I don’t understand why the authorities, in the broad sense of the word, have not yet realized the foundations of popular indignation, every time there is some kind of props in the foreground, we move time zones, reform the time, rename the police to the police, tax maneuvers that only make everyone worse and etc. When I see steps from which there is no benefit or from them all only worse and can not give them a reasonable explanation, then I conclude that this is either the stupidity of the persons who made the decision, or the decision is aimed at deriving benefits. In both cases, apart from irritation and indignation, nothing arises, and indignation on a lean stomach is a dangerous thing.
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 18: 25
      Just one, they envy others - those who want to work and earn money already work and earn money.
      1. -1
        6 August 2019 15: 59
        Quote: Vadim237
        Just one, they envy others - those who want to work and earn money already work and earn money.

        in the first place, there aren’t enough such niches, at least as much as you want and work,
        secondly, power tightens the reins - taxes are rising, opportunities to earn money are falling
        look what people from the "middle" class are buying in grocery stores now - they have already significantly switched to products "for cattle". All around you can see that it is getting worse and worse.
        Better only in the state machine - pensions, parachutes, salaries like Miller's, privileges, palaces where they work. Medium business is dead.
        Small business is already going to illegal work or exploiting only narrow niches.
        I recently analyzed the purchasing power of average wages - it has fallen by almost half in 10 years.
        And you work further on envy, do not be shy.
        1. 0
          7 August 2019 10: 58
          And I will continue to work, and not only I, we are becoming more envious. It's just that in Russia 4 out of 10 do not want to work - but they want freebies and that they would be paid a lot regardless whether they work or not.
  8. +4
    5 August 2019 07: 54
    And on whose side is the "election manipulation"? The authorities or the guys who cannot find a pitiful percentage of like-minded people and stupidly attribute the dead? What are these "political forces"? This is a wooden bottom. There are plenty of such people in government offices anyway. Why else?
    And about what liberals have creative managers, let him tell the activities of Mr. Bely and other Nemtsov
  9. +6
    5 August 2019 08: 02
    Quote: svp67
    At one time, Roosevelt defeated the impending social revolution in the United States with the help of "refrigerators and full pots." By giving the workers work and conditions to earn money and feed their families. Our modern government, with the help of the same weapon, LOSES the fight. How do people who, not only are not able to increase the well-being of the population, but reduce it, remain "irreplaceable in power"? Sorry, but this is a clear path to social explosion, which has been proven more than once or twice by history.

    A social explosion is certainly good ... After Putin's victory in the last elections, "our" oligarchs, bureaucrats and deputies (believing that the people trusted them too) completely went crazy ... And for sure, what the authorities were doing after these elections, at a different time and place would have led to a social explosion, but ...
    We also have a "force that cements" society. This attitude towards "agents of influence of the West", and this is not only Navalny, who is on the salary of the State Department, with his (as yet brainless) bulkheads, but the entire liberal pack that sleeps and sees how to arrange the "nineties" for Russia once again. And we understand that if they come to power, they won't let us rise from our knees a second time. Iraq and Syria will seem like a good fairy tale to us.
    1. -1
      5 August 2019 09: 28
      Quote: mavrus
      After Putin's victory in the last elections, "our" oligarchs, bureaucrats and deputies (believing that the people trusted them as well) completely went crazy ...

      Therefore, on the upcoming voting day, people should understand that by voting for the EDRO, the Liberal Democratic Party, Fair Russia and the self-nominees who previously were in these parties, they support the ruling clique that torments Russia.
      1. -2
        5 August 2019 09: 42
        Quote: Antique
        Quote: mavrus
        After Putin's victory in the last elections, "our" oligarchs, bureaucrats and deputies (believing that the people trusted them as well) completely went crazy ...

        Therefore, on the upcoming voting day, people should understand that by voting for the EDRO, the Liberal Democratic Party, Fair Russia and the self-nominees who previously were in these parties, they support the ruling clique that torments Russia.

        And for whom should one vote? For the Communist Party, which you did not mention, or for the liberda, which could not gather a miserable few thousand votes in its support?
        1. +2
          5 August 2019 10: 05
          Quote: Rededi
          And for whom should one vote? For the Communist Party, which you did not mention, or for the liberda, which could not gather a miserable few thousand votes in its support?

          Think for yourself. Can I vote for Valuev, Kabaeva and others? The unit must be destroyed. The party of thieving and corrupt power, filled with crooks and opportunists should disappear. Everyone decides for whom to vote. The root system of thieves, etch roundup. Forever. The only legal way to change something.
          1. -1
            5 August 2019 10: 21
            Quote: Antique
            Quote: Rededi
            And for whom should one vote? For the Communist Party, which you did not mention, or for the liberda, which could not gather a miserable few thousand votes in its support?

            Think for yourself. Can I vote for Valuev, Kabaeva and others? The unit must be destroyed. The party of thieving and corrupt power, filled with crooks and opportunists should disappear. Everyone decides for whom to vote. The root system of thieves, etch roundup. Forever. The only legal way to change something.

            Yeah, and Carthage must be destroyed. laughing Is it legal to poison someone with Roundup? Nu-nu. laughing
            1. -3
              5 August 2019 11: 39
              Quote: Rededi
              Is it legal to poison someone with Roundup?

              Miraculously, this is a figurative comparison. Metaphor.
              1. +1
                5 August 2019 11: 42
                Quote: Antique
                Quote: Rededi
                Is it legal to poison someone with Roundup?

                Miraculously, this is a figurative comparison. Metaphor.

                In-in and so on in everything, so that the liberda would not weave, everything "figurative comparison" ©. Doesn’t courage go over to the practical plane? laughing
                1. -2
                  5 August 2019 16: 28
                  Quote: Rededi
                  Doesn’t courage go over to the practical plane?

                  What is it like? We are not rebels and not troubled. And you are provoking us in vain. We will act in legal ways. We just when we come to the polls, we will vote against your filthy power of thieves and liars.
                  1. +3
                    5 August 2019 17: 04
                    Quote: Antique
                    Quote: Rededi
                    Doesn’t courage go over to the practical plane?

                    What is it like? We are not rebels and not troubled. And you are provoking us in vain. We will act in legal ways. We just when we come to the polls, we will vote against your filthy power of thieves and liars.

                    My filthy power. I, as I understand it, the owner of EdRa? Flattering. laughing
                    Quote: Antique
                    We will act in legal ways.

                    I believe, especially after the organization of the riots. I doubt it. laughing
          2. +5
            5 August 2019 10: 59
            They sang the same at 91. One to one. Change, sausages and "also" and "change the system, down with communism" ... So what? Now you whine again. Did you want "democracy"? Eat now.
            And to change bibu to boba (of which there are two wise men) with shouts of "the system must breathe" - well, this is to become the third "wise man".
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 11: 40
              Quote: Cottodraton
              They sang the same at 91. One to one. Change, sausages and "also nizzy" and "change the system, down with communism" ...

              I agree. But the "stabilizer", combined with chronic lies and thieves, is tired.
              1. -1
                5 August 2019 11: 56
                Quote: Antique
                Quote: Cottodraton
                They sang the same at 91. One to one. Change, sausages and "also nizzy" and "change the system, down with communism" ...

                I agree. But the "stabilizer", combined with chronic lies and thieves, is tired.

                So do not lie or steal who forces you. laughing
                1. -5
                  5 August 2019 14: 08
                  Igor, why did you pretend to be a bag? So far, only officials from the government, the government and those at the very top steal and lie. Why am I stealing in my carpool? I will turn off a wheel from the same car?
                  1. +4
                    5 August 2019 14: 13
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    Igor, why did you pretend to be a bag? So far, only officials from the government, the government and those at the very top steal and lie. Why am I stealing in my carpool? I will turn off a wheel from the same car?

                    Fuck the hell knows, maybe you rub gasoline at night. By the way, you will not remind in which party the stolen Belykh belonged to? Or is the theft of liberals not such?
              2. -1
                5 August 2019 18: 30
                You will not get rid of the latter, since the backbone of the thieves is a part of the people - with long-established stereotypes and principles - but you can get rid of the first one in an easy way from "Stabilizer" to full "Cabzets".
              3. +1
                6 August 2019 12: 01
                Create your own (opposition) copy "Lake", with blackjack and girls. Correct.
                Many people are dissatisfied, but nobody makes any real steps to improve the life of society. Everyone rushes to extremes and looks for "sponsors" - either from the Kremlin or from the West ... And everyone thinks only of themselves.
                There are no creators (, some revolutionaries
                1. 0
                  7 August 2019 11: 00
                  Among loafers - creators will never be.
        2. -1
          5 August 2019 15: 34
          So you stand for "ed"? Do you propose to vote for them?
          1. +4
            5 August 2019 17: 11
            Quote: Revival
            So you stand for "ed"? Do you propose to vote for them?

            God save me! But I do not drown for nonsystematic workers either. And those and those differ only by grade, but if normal people still meet in United Russia, then among the non-systemic opposition - the enemy jumps on the enemy and drives the enemy.
          2. +1
            8 August 2019 03: 02
            We suggest that you yourself lead, rather than wait for the kings, who will all come and do. Like Putin is the same. He did not whine, but gathered his cohort. And did.
            Although then there were candidates for "tsars" and more influential and unprincipled. And bloodlessly, the most important thing!
            And your revolutions-maidan ... I am educated enough and respect myself to ride in the squares with a hobby woman on my head, for the sake of other people's ambitions.
      2. -7
        5 August 2019 09: 55
        Quote: Antique
        Quote: mavrus
        After Putin's victory in the last elections, "our" oligarchs, bureaucrats and deputies (believing that the people trusted them as well) completely went crazy ...

        Therefore, on the upcoming voting day, people should understand that by voting for the EDRO, the Liberal Democratic Party, Fair Russia and the self-nominees who previously were in these parties, they support the ruling clique that torments Russia.

        And how does the Communist Party, not mentioned by you, differ from them?
        1. +3
          5 August 2019 10: 33
          Quote: Lipchanin
          And how does the Communist Party, not mentioned by you, differ from them?

          We remember the promises of EDRA. Strategy 2020. The average salary is 2700 US dollars by 2020. Provision of housing 100m2 for a family of 3 people.
          .
          1. -2
            5 August 2019 10: 45
            Quote: Antique
            Quote: Lipchanin
            And how does the Communist Party, not mentioned by you, differ from them?

            We remember the promises of EDRA. Strategy 2020. The average salary is 2700 US dollars by 2020. Provision of housing 100m2 for a family of 3 people.
            .

            My dear, are you stuck in the "scoop"? We are suddenly living under capitalism, where no one owes anything to anyone. And about a salary of 2700 dollars, then not to Edru, then to the United States, or have you heard anything about the sanctions?
            1. -2
              5 August 2019 13: 35
              Quote: Rededi
              so it’s not to Edr, then to the USA, or have you heard nothing about sanctions?


              So you are from Ukraine! They always blame everything on either the "cross-sectional" predecessors or Russia. The baby dancers always interfere with a bad dancer!
              1. +2
                5 August 2019 13: 53
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Rededi
                so it’s not to Edr, then to the USA, or have you heard nothing about sanctions?


                So you are from Ukraine! They always blame everything either "diameters"Predecessors, or Russia. The baby dancers always interfere with a bad dancer!

                "Cross". No, I'm not from Ukraine. You haven't heard anything about the sanctions. Well, okay.
                1. -5
                  5 August 2019 15: 39
                  So the government says that sanctions do not have much effect.
                  And you say that the promised salary of $ 2700 (average) could not be achieved due to the sanctions.
                  And if you compare the sn in $ 2700 as promised, and that is, the effect of the sanctions is enormous, it reduces potential achievements by a factor of ten.
                  Are you saying that the government is lying?
                  1. +4
                    5 August 2019 17: 07
                    Quote: Revival
                    So the government says that sanctions do not have much effect.
                    And you say that the promised salary of $ 2700 (average) could not be achieved due to the sanctions.
                    And if you compare the sn in $ 2700 as promised, and that is, the effect of the sanctions is enormous, it reduces potential achievements by a factor of ten.
                    Are you saying that the government is lying?

                    Does the government say sanctions are not harmful? A reference to this statement in the studio. There is certainly damage, but it is less than that which was counted on in the West.
            2. -2
              5 August 2019 16: 42
              Quote: Rededi
              And about a salary of $ 2700, is it either not to Edra, then to the USA, or have you heard nothing about sanctions?

              Dear Darling, the 2020 strategy was developed by the Russian government and presented to the people.
              Cit. “The average salary in the country by 2020 will be no less than 2,7 thousand dollars,” such and other government promises were circulated to the media in 2008, when Strategy 2020 was published - a concept for the long-term development of Russia authored by the Ministry of Economic Development led by Elvira Nabiullina.
              And the sanctions do not apply to us. We are told this every day from our favorite zombie box. I just bought a shovel with a bayonet. It says "Made in Mexico." How glorious! The Americans do not sell shovels to us, but we buy them in Mexico!
              And turbines, Ukraine, too, to us, and the rest of the world have ceased to sell to us, so China is building a whole turbine plant for us. In how, we made them.
              No, sanctions us like a dead poultice. You shouldn’t be so.
              EDRO, in the furnace. Doubts take me that, after 1000 blows to the head, Nikolai Valuev can take the right laws.
              Again Kabaeva. How many times, it was she who jumped over her little head, and spun in a loach. Of course flexible, no words. The face is cute and chubby lips. But it’s necessary to think up laws like that, again it’s necessary to analyze. What if everything is mixed up in her head? AND? do we need such a nimble power? AND?
              1. +3
                5 August 2019 17: 15
                Quote: Antique
                Doubts take me that, after 1000 blows to the head, Nikolai Valuev can take the right laws.
                Again Kabaeva. How many times, it was she who jumped over her little head, and spun in a loach. Of course flexible, no words. The face is cute and chubby lips. But it’s necessary to think up laws like that, again it’s necessary to analyze. What if everything is mixed up in her head? AND? do we need such a nimble power? AND?

                Well, to you, of course, to them, as to the moon with cancer. Which government said sanctions are not harmful? From the government, not the journalists. Please the link.
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          2. -3
            5 August 2019 10: 46
            I asked how the Communist Party is different from all these apples, the Liberal Democratic Party and others.
            In this way you are liberals and are different from normal people that when there is nothing to answer, transfer the conversation to another topic, or even blabber it with empty chatter and agitation
            1. -4
              5 August 2019 16: 26
              Quote: Lipchanin
              By this you are liberals and different from normal people,

              The main liberalist is sitting in the Kremlin. A portrait of him above the branch. And we darling, Stalinists. And do not vote for EDRO.
              1. +3
                5 August 2019 17: 32
                Quote: Antique
                Quote: Lipchanin
                By this you are liberals and different from normal people,

                The main liberalist is sitting in the Kremlin. A portrait of him above the branch. And we darling, Stalinists. And do not vote for EDRO.

                A joke of the day. laughing laughing laughing Stalinists. Maybe "Satanists", you are not confusing anything? laughing
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              2. +2
                5 August 2019 19: 30
                Quote: Antique
                The main liberalist sits in the Kremlin

                The Kremlin is not a liberal. The main liberal of youngsters chases rallies.
                A portrait of him above the branch.

                This one?

                And we darling, Stalinists.

                This is how you turn to your sexual partner.
                And do not vote for EDRO.

                Yes, it was not enough that such people vote for him
                1. -1
                  5 August 2019 21: 52
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  This one?

                  This. Darling. He did not condemn the ever-drunken Yeltsin and his clique. He built a Yeltsin center for budget money. He deprived the country of the future, abandoning ideology. He loved the traitor and liar so-False Nitsyn. He forced children in schools to study the miserable creations of this collaborator. The Caucasus is flooded with Russian money. Donbass is bathed in Russian blood and betrayed. 20 years of wandering and lying. Enough. You can’t take it anymore.
                  1. +3
                    5 August 2019 22: 11
                    Quote: Antique
                    Darling

                    Man, chow. This is a site on the Internet, not an armored car in the square laughing
          3. +2
            5 August 2019 18: 31
            Now 82 million square meters of housing are being built annually - 2020 program in action.
          4. 0
            6 August 2019 12: 02
            It was not there by 2020, there was something almost about 40
  10. +4
    5 August 2019 08: 02
    Big mistake number one: "brazen election manipulation."
    It seems that the West recognized our choice only when Yeltsin was elected ... But we don't need such "happiness" anymore.
  11. +5
    5 August 2019 08: 14
    Of course, it is difficult to judge our consent on the Internet. And yet .. Has anyone looked at the number of likes? About tens of millions are off scale. In the "Ice Age", the coach made claims to Tarasova for a low mark. "He has a million likes, and you put it .." This is how likes are against professionalism. There are a lot of likes. The rating "like" is given for nudity, for some unthinkable actions. And all this quietly goes to TV. I specially chose the indisputable songs. "I love you life" - "for" 5,6 thousand. Against-219. Children's song "A grasshopper was sitting in the grass" used by a children's choir. And again there are a lot of people who don't like it I think it's not for me to draw conclusions. Something broke.
  12. +4
    5 August 2019 08: 17
    . Useful advice!

    To stand still, not to move, not to do anything - these are the components of stability. Not that instead of GDP growth there will be an increase in the number of arrests in the country
    .
    Interestingly, and those guys who are being arrested WAS FOR PROGRESS AND MOVEMENT FORWARD ???
    And who arrested them, sharply against ???
    I can’t believe it .... at all!
  13. +3
    5 August 2019 08: 26
    The mind cannot understand Russia ... So analysts cannot understand what processes are taking place in our country today. The analysis of the situation in the country is carried out by those who do not advertise the research results. Public, as it were, analytics is simply an element of imposing opinions in order to destabilize the POLITICAL situation in the country, and not an attempt to find ways to resolve internal problems. But there is no opposition in Russia today, and this is a fact. It is the absence of opposition that can lead to a social explosion - spontaneous protests against the government (not to be confused with the competitive struggle of oligarchic clans - for example, various color revolutions). In the meantime, except with a smile, inferences, or rather conjectures, can only be perceived as an excuse to mock them in the style of Zadorny.
    1. -2
      5 August 2019 18: 50
      The mind cannot understand Russia ... So analysts cannot understand what processes are going on in our country today.


      You know, the processes are frankly sad
      1. +1
        5 August 2019 23: 25
        I know, fun processes are now in Ukraine))) in Libya, in Afghanistan, in Syria, etc. And in Russia, everything is gray and boring, even liberalists can’t amuse us)))
  14. +2
    5 August 2019 08: 41
    Quote: ROSS 42
    ...
    Take, for example, GDP for 2018 - substantial growth! As much as 1% with inflation, nothing at all - 3

    But how are percentages of GDP related to inflation? GDP is already calculated taking into account inflation. That is, if you wanted to say that 1,3% of GDP growth is not enough - I agree with you, very, very little, you need 6-7% at least. And if you wanted to say that there was a decline of 2,9%, then this is not so.
    1. +1
      5 August 2019 16: 07
      It’s not a good day today. Yandex opened up entirely with negative news. For example, according to RIA Novosti, the number of small and medium-sized enterprises this year managed to decrease by 7 - 8% of their number last year. Of these, 18, 3 thousands are small and 1,5 thousands are medium.
      At the same time, 257,1 thousand people were left without work.
      In the first quarter of this year, the country's GDP grew by only 0,7% and only due to large, as well as, mind you, state-owned enterprises. Gradually declining to date to 0,5%. In the second half of the year, financing of national projects begins, and possibly a weak economic growth. But experts agreed that the technical recession of our economy will begin this year, and not in subsequent ones, as previously assumed.
      So it will start all the same?
      And business cuts continue. Because of the tightening of the rules of its conduct in accordance with federal laws and, most importantly, in connection with the tightening of lending rules in accordance with the international rule, Basel S. Well, our Central Bank could not ignore the recommendations of the IMF!
      Small business accelerated, it was, to go into microfinance, but the last Ministry of Finance stepped on the throat, and their number is also reduced, there is nowhere to borrow money. So unemployment will increase further. Maybe because the dismissed trade or microfinance employee is far from always the specialist who can be involved in the implementation of national projects.

      So, will there be social protests about this? Those who will not be able to lead the liberal opposition because of their "non-core"? Will not. Small and medium-sized businesses will leave to tax or wait for better times, look for new opportunities, since they have some savings. Or people will go out of business forever.
      As for the unemployed - former employees, they are scattered throughout the country and unable to unite as part of a general protest, because their families will drastically cut their expenses. So the number of poor people will increase further. And the poor are not the social base of liberal protests. They are not even interesting to bodies of local councils and thoughts of various levels. Having mocked with the authorities about the incorrect vote count and loudly sucking with it, the liberals will finally shut up - as always, and the newly elected deputies will attend to the establishment of corruption ties and replenishment of their own pockets. And get excited only for the next election. Like the Apple party in Okulovka - knocking out the only ambulance for the city. Previously, their hands did not reach this.
      Here is a picture of our life.
      1. +3
        5 August 2019 16: 18
        Quote: depressant
        Here is a picture of our life

        Life is Beautiful. The main thing is to choose the right antidepressants (s) wink
      2. -2
        5 August 2019 18: 55
        It’s not a good day today. Yandex opened up entirely with negative news. For example, according to RIA Novosti, the number of small and medium-sized enterprises this year managed to decrease by 7 - 8% of their number last year. Of these, 18, 3 thousands are small and 1,5 thousands are medium.
        At the same time, 257,1 thousand people were left without work.


        Yes, small business is falling.
        Yes, jobs are being cut.
        Somehow, at the wrong time, the authorities started this canoe with "inadmissibility". At a wrong time.
  15. +2
    5 August 2019 08: 47
    It is difficult to anger a people with something as much as this manipulation. Sestanovich points to the madness that gripped the crowds who realized that they were being manipulated. His historical list includes the so-called Rose Revolution in Georgia (2003), the Orange Revolution in Ukraine (2004), the Tulip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan (2005). Everywhere the cause of revolutions was falsification of the vote count and other fraud in the elections.


    Really, but we are white and fluffy, and we have nothing to do with these revolutions. The professor holds on to work or America’s voice woke up, where would you be without you.
  16. +1
    5 August 2019 09: 08
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Quote: Lipchanin
    ... Do you care? I’m personally on the drum. A small dog barks louder

    And this word infuriated me, because nowhere is any partnership visible, and at the same time a kind of stubborn fawning.

    So after all, no one will bend to the camera with two fingers of both hands at the word "partners". Do not guess yourself? They have us clear Enemies, we have them clear "partners" ...
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 09: 45
      Quote: nachtigalsif
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Quote: Lipchanin
      ... Do you care? I’m personally on the drum. A small dog barks louder

      And this word infuriated me, because nowhere is any partnership visible, and at the same time a kind of stubborn fawning.

      So after all, no one will bend to the camera with two fingers of both hands at the word "partners". Do not guess yourself? They have us clear Enemies, we have them clear "partners" ...

      Dear Jogr, "partner" can also be called so that the opponent will feel like a homoge. hi
      1. -5
        5 August 2019 09: 58
        Quote: Rededi
        Dear Jogr, "partner" can also be called so that the opponent will feel like a homoge.

        Attached to this word like flies to honey.
        For what year have they never been stolen.
        Other words of GDP with which he lowers the henchmen below the baseboard are not heard at point blank range
        1. -3
          5 August 2019 10: 10
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Attached to this word like flies to honey.
          For what year have they never been stolen.
          Other words of GDP with which he lowers the henchmen below the baseboard are not heard at point blank range

          Apparently someone wants to call amers from the high stands "goats". Partnerships are also different, for example, "sexual partners", and then the question arises, who is on top. Judging by the issues related to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, the Arctic shelf and many others, our dear Western partners © firmly strengthened knee-elbow position. laughing
          1. -7
            5 August 2019 10: 33
            Quote: Rededi
            Western partners © firmly strengthened knee-elbow position.

            And in Syria too.
            Notice, as soon as everything is good in Syria, the VKS chases the broads across the desert, among the liberals there is silence.
            As soon as there is a problem, the stench from all the cracks
            1. -1
              5 August 2019 10: 38
              Quote: Lipchanin
              As soon as there is a problem, the stench from all the cracks

              This is their joy. The position of liberals and barmaleys is the same, Russia is the enemy, only the latter defend their position with weapons, and the liberd, besides picking shit in the mouth and spitting in everyone around, lacks courage. Ssykunishki s. laughing
        2. 0
          5 August 2019 10: 16
          His empty chatter to listen to not respect yourself.))
          1. -5
            5 August 2019 10: 34
            Quote: Nestorych
            His empty chatter to listen to not respect yourself.))

            And who do you think chatter deserves close attention? Could it be Lesha, Urkagan?
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 10: 48
              I look you are a specialist in rappers.)))
              1. -2
                5 August 2019 10: 49
                Quote: Nestorych
                I look you are a specialist in rappers.)))

                Yeah, I've seen enough of your brother. laughing
                1. +1
                  5 August 2019 11: 19
                  Get away from the mirror! laughing
                  1. -1
                    5 August 2019 11: 23
                    Quote: Nestorych
                    Get away from the mirror! laughing

                    Am I your brother too? Yes, uh. Can not be. laughing
            2. +3
              5 August 2019 13: 38
              Quote: Rededi
              Could it be Lesha, Urkagan?


              Do not tell us according to what Russian laws a person with 2 convictions walks freely, travels abroad? Who protects him in Russia that the laws of Russia are not for him?
              1. 0
                5 August 2019 13: 55
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Rededi
                Could it be Lesha, Urkagan?


                Do not tell us according to what Russian laws a person with 2 convictions walks freely, travels abroad? Who protects him in Russia that the laws of Russia are not for him?

                No, I won’t tell you. Most interesting. Or do you have doubts about two convictions?
  17. -4
    5 August 2019 09: 13
    Quote: O. Chuvakin
    To stand still, not to move, not to do anything - these are the components of stability. Not that instead of GDP growth there will be an increase in the number of arrests in the country.

    Can't you really see the difference between the 90s and the current ones? Or are you at Uncle Sam's part-time job? "May Decrees" is marking time or moving forward (not to confuse the one who writes the plan with the one who implements it)?

    Instead of discussing "not fair" elections and stirring up the not yet excited ones, I would like to know for what purpose they go to power, what do they want?

    We all know very well from the elections in Ukraine which oligarch there is behind this or that candidate. What do we know about these? Who is behind them and whose interests will they realize through the adoption of laws?

    As an example of the choice of one or another candidate in the legislative branch and their influence on our life:
    Under Stalin - The formation of the legislative body was carried out by labor collectives. Every year there was a decline in prices, the life of the people improved, the country developed.
    When the Communist Party - The formation of the legislative body was led by the governing and directing, the country has decayed.
    Today - The formation of the legislative body is under the strict guidance of the bourgeois. The whole country for sale.
    If the State Department puppets come “They will undoubtedly pass laws in the interests of the West.” Russia will disappear.
    1. -6
      5 August 2019 09: 46
      Quote: Boris55
      If puppets of the State Department come, they will undoubtedly pass laws in the interests of the West.

      As with ebn.
      In the Kremlin, hostages sat and dictated what and how to do.
    2. 0
      5 August 2019 13: 12
      If the person who writes the plan is powerless to do something to be executed, then at least confuse at least do not confuse the result 0
  18. +4
    5 August 2019 09: 23
    . It is difficult to anger a people with something as much as this manipulation. Sestanovich points to the madness that gripped the crowds who realized that they were being manipulated. His historical list includes the so-called Rose Revolution in Georgia (2003), the Orange Revolution in Ukraine (2004), the Tulip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan (2005).

    All these "flower revolutions" are just a tool of influence, a tool for replacing some completely cracked, others no less cunning !!! There is no creation here!
    PS ... with REVOLUTION THIS ACTION IS NOT worth it! in fact, it has a completely different definition!
  19. +6
    5 August 2019 09: 38
    So far, people and people who are in power for whom this land is not their homeland are in power, while the state-forming people are powerless and not even reflected in the Constitution, while people themselves are inert, drink, live their own little world (work, sofa, beer, football), while the electorate is watching He listens to television and, most importantly, believes in the state, until people understand that going to the polls and choosing, according to the principle, this old one is better than the new (liberal) one, although neither one nor the other is the defenders and reflectors of the will of this electorate. GOOD! And then we are waiting for the next struggle of the elites for influence, next taxes, rising prices, the continuation of genocide, new wars, tightening the screws with force, total censorship and control, an electronic collar for everyone, driving people into cities and depriving them of land and the ability to feed themselves . THAT IS WHAT WAITS FOR US! But one out of a hundred will think about this at best, and one out of a thousand of them will think about it. PYSY: Power and elites are not interested in the growth of the number of indigenous Slavic population. To do this, migrants from Asia are imported who are not assimilated here, but create enclaves, therefore they face their foreheads with kindred peoples (yes, Belarusians, Poles, Ukrainians) and this myth of enemies is supported from the media. Although the elites are fighting among themselves, people are fighting. But who teaches us how to live? Correctly Satanovsky, Shapiro (Solovyov), Kedmi, Chubais, Zelensky and many others. Which of them is the representative and really the protector of the local population?))) Oh yes this is a theory of conspiracy of elites around the world ......
  20. -1
    5 August 2019 09: 52
    How to make sure people forget about the problems, cast aside bad thoughts about economically unprofitable fires, do not get stunned by the new food supplement from locust shells, did not worry about the percentage for paying for housing and communal services now and online ...
    We just invite the respected Navalny to his office and ask for a little service, the latter gathers a couple of thousand people and the performance is ready. The "opposition" is having a fuss, the National Guard disperses it (in paddy wagons, they eat doshirak together, it is true, because its index has risen), having dined all over again, by the evening everyone was happy with money and went to bed. And in the media there is an orange revolution, a coup, as many as a thousand came out, we will not let you repeat the Ukrainian scenario, take care of your developers (well, forgive them economically, this is such a trifle)
    And only somewhere far away is the lonely Petrosyan sad, what year has the clowning been and all without him
    1. +4
      5 August 2019 13: 42
      Quote: armata_armata
      How to make sure people forget about the problems, cast aside bad thoughts about economically unprofitable fires, do not get stunned by the new food supplement from locust shells, did not worry about the percentage for paying for housing and communal services now and online ...
      We just invite the respected Navalny to his office and ask for a little service, the latter gathers a couple of thousand people and the performance is ready. The "opposition" is having a fuss, the National Guard disperses it (in paddy wagons, they eat doshirak together, it is true, because its index has risen), having dined all over again, by the evening everyone was happy with money and went to bed. And in the media there is an orange revolution, a coup, as many as a thousand came out, we will not let you repeat the Ukrainian scenario, take care of your developers (well, forgive them economically, this is such a trifle)
      And only somewhere far away is the lonely Petrosyan sad, what year has the clowning been and all without him

      Forgot to add, we hire a "lipchanin" with Co. and the thing is in the hat. The main thing is to shout “Hold the thief” loudest!
      1. -4
        5 August 2019 14: 34
        Quote: Silvestr
        Forgot to add-hire "Lipchanina"

        Just don't jump out the window shouting "Lipchanin" is coming laughing
        1. +2
          5 August 2019 17: 26
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Just don't jump out the window shouting "Lipchanin" is coming


          I have already written to you about your narcissism. Excessive emotions are harmful
          1. -3
            5 August 2019 19: 35
            Quote: Silvestr
            I already wrote about your narcissism

            I hope my answer to the place where you are reached
            Excessive emotions are harmful

            Did the pressure jump? Has the temperature risen?
            You really take care of yourself. State Department fees need to work out
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 21: 00
              Quote: Lipchanin
              You really take care of yourself. State Department fees need to work out

              very bad! What a human policy has brought! laughing
  21. -1
    5 August 2019 10: 39
    What kind of decisive citizens we have: "we will not allow us to decide for us, we will disperse ourselves, we guess with a balloon wrench ..". Everything was filled with decisive pictures. Hold me seven...
    So without knowing you read and really think that these people are capable and actively show their civic position if they don’t like something.
    How easy it is to speak when you are in favor of the correct and correct decisions indicated by whom.
    Something I don’t remember, decisive "we will not let you decide for us" when making a decision, for example, on pension reform.
    And as the majority was against, but lived almost silently.
    And so that there is no split personality or any unpleasant feeling, you just need to convince yourself in time that you sincerely like any decisions, if they come from where and that you sincerely support them.
    If I didn’t support, then oh! ... "I wouldn’t let it be decided for myself."
    But how many supporters of pension reform turn out to be in our country, the overwhelming majority, well, otherwise they certainly would not have allowed to decide for themselves.
    Decisive, responsible and courageous! Hooray, comrades!
    1. -3
      5 August 2019 11: 12
      Quote: Revival
      So without knowing you read and really think that these people are capable and actively show their civic position if they don’t like something.
      How easy it is to speak when you are in favor of the correct and correct decisions indicated by whom.

      Aha, another thing is piled up, they come out at the call of the heart, no one calls on them and does not impose their decisions. Do you think that "civic position" is the obligatory support of liberda in their struggle for a place at the trough? Your example is just proof that people in the bulk think with their own heads and do not fall for the populist calls of various goats-provocateurs, do not participate in riots. You, apparently, believe that if people do not go to the "actions" arranged by liberda, then they follow some "rules written by someone", no, people just DO NOT fall for these "manuals" written by someone and do not want to arrange another Libya or Ukraine in their country. So your shot is "milk". And there will be no police on the streets, all these "they are from herevlast" will quickly feel the love of the common people, be sure.
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 13: 22
        1. Where did you see me that I urge to go out with bulk.
        Show or modestly remain silent or quietly eat ??
        2. People do not go out because in the majority they are not capable, if something did not work out. Whatever the event. And everyone has the right to make this choice.
        My position is that if you have chosen a "hut on the edge" or is not at all capable of going out to any protest to defend your rights, then you should not dress up in other people's clothes: "How will I get out." "I told them so." "Whether to take a helmet" ... smacks of hypocrisy.
        1. 0
          5 August 2019 13: 48
          Quote: Revival
          Where did you see me that I urge to go out with bulk.

          You have not seen it anywhere. But judging by the dissatisfaction with "those who do not come out," this appeal is easy to read.
          Quote: Revival
          People do not go out because most of them are not capable, if something did not work out. Whatever the event. And everyone has the right to make this choice.
          My position is that if you have chosen a "hut on the edge" or is not at all capable of going out to any protest to defend your rights, then you should not dress up in other people's clothes: "How will I get out." "I told them so." "Whether to take a helmet" ... smacks of hypocrisy.

          How did you decide that people do not go out fearing the consequences? It never occurred to you that the "struggle" imposed by the opposition may not be such for people. Or, say, the composition of these very "protestors" is not satisfied. How did you decide that people are OBLIGED to go to all kinds of protests, especially illegal ones? Nobody told you that people would blow it out and poke it on, it was about the fact that if it weren't for security officials, ordinary passers-by, or drivers would quite easily and naturally explain to the "protestors" that their rights end where they begin to infringe on the rights of other citizens ... And physically. Remember the "Ambulance", which could not pass, because this rebellious cattle blocked the highway, remember the bestial posts of our liberals like "do not have time and to hell with him, one lover of Putin will be less". If it weren't for the police, these citizens with" good faces "would have seemed like a sheepskin.
          1. 0
            5 August 2019 18: 39
            Remember the Ambulance, which could not get through, because this rebellious cattle blocked the highway,


            Be careful about "cattle" - we did not observe your "noble letters".
            1. +1
              5 August 2019 18: 47
              Quote: Olezhek
              Remember the Ambulance, which could not get through, because this rebellious cattle blocked the highway,


              Be careful about "cattle" - we did not observe your "noble letters".

              Can you characterize the crowd differently? freaks interfering with the passage of the ambulance? Well share. It is not "noble letters" that are made of some people - people, and it is not "noble" blood that makes other people - cattle. It's all about actions. I don’t like it when they call you “cattle” (did you take it personally?), Do not behave like a beast. How gentle we are. Take me to court, it's better to go to the ECHR right away.
              1. 0
                5 August 2019 18: 51
                Can you somehow characterize the crowd of freaks interfering with the ambulance? Well share


                Do you know that ambulances are slowing down for government motorcades?
                Or is it not a problem from your point of view?
                1. +3
                  5 August 2019 18: 57
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  Can you somehow characterize the crowd of freaks interfering with the ambulance? Well share


                  Do you know that ambulances are slowing down for government motorcades?
                  Or is it not a problem from your point of view?

                  How do you think it justifies the bulk? Or the struggle "for our and your freedom" gives indulgence to any meanness? How is their "concern" for ordinary Russians combined with creating problems for these very Russians? If they blocked the road to the government motorcade, it would be one thing to block the road of an ambulance traveling with flashing beacons, that is, to a call is an abomination, meanness and ... bestiality. And komenty liberdy on this case is generally beyond good and evil.
                  1. -2
                    5 August 2019 19: 04
                    How do you think it justifies the bulk?


                    And you are a comrade - pick up expressions - you are not the Hero of Russia here.
                    You need to be more modest and people reach for you
                    It is not worth hanging from the position of an "honorary holy free city".
                    And the show-offs and flaring only repel
                    Something like this. Good luck.
                    I hope you are not 15 years old?
                    1. +3
                      5 August 2019 19: 15
                      Quote: Olezhek
                      And you are a comrade - pick up expressions - you are not the Hero of Russia here.

                      Unlike you, apparently.
                      Quote: Olezhek
                      You need to be more modest and people reach for you

                      People do not disdain me anyway, but if you shout like that, then I don’t need such "people" for nothing.
                      Quote: Olezhek
                      And the show-offs and flaring only repel

                      Where did you see and show up? Do not show?
                      Quote: Olezhek
                      Something like this. Good luck.

                      Same to you.
                      Quote: Olezhek
                      I hope you are not 15 years old?

                      No, I'm not your classmate. laughing
                      Interestingly, whenever you have nothing to say about the case, you switch to hysterical notes and begin to defend the "outraged honor"? It's funny and undignified.
                  2. -2
                    5 August 2019 19: 50
                    heaped

                    And komenty liberda


                    Eh - the arguments are "killer"
                    As the saying goes - we did not finish the Sorbonne!


                    If they blocked the road to the government cortege, it would be one thing to block the road by an ambulance with flashing beacons


                    There, even the Patriarch blocked the ambulance with his motorcade
                    If to mention - then all.
                    1. -2
                      5 August 2019 20: 20
                      And the "heroic fighter with liberda" merged ... belay
                      Sic transit gloria mundi
                      1. 0
                        6 August 2019 19: 58
                        Quote: Olezhek
                        And the "heroic fighter with liberda" merged ... belay
                        Sic transit gloria mundi

                        You are absolutely right! Plum admit, was put to shame by the liberde in your face! recourse You can treat yourself to this event "Chupa Chupsom" good .
                        At least something useful will take your head ... laughing
                    2. 0
                      6 August 2019 19: 53
                      Quote: Olezhek
                      There, even the Patriarch blocked the ambulance with his motorcade
                      If to mention - then all.

                      The patriarch, who also comments on similar things in the style of bulk, a la "to hell with him, if someone dies, there will be one less lover of Putin"?
  22. +3
    5 August 2019 12: 28
    Quote: Rededi
    .... And with such a background, someone else supports it. Apparently for liberda these are feats worthy of respect. The question arises: who, then, are the liberals themselves, if they have such "heroes"?
    Does anyone support? Probably the same and support.
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    2. +1
      5 August 2019 13: 48
      You, comrade, need to be on Ren-TV. Find your fans. True, I cannot vouch for the quality of adherents.
    3. -4
      5 August 2019 13: 49
      Quote: Saw
      Recently, in Putin's Russia, people are massively dying on certain days according to the lunar calendar, for example:

      Putin made such a calendar? belay
      1905 maximum solar activity, revolution in Russia

      1917 maximum solar activity, revolution in Russia

      1968 maximum solar activity, uprising in Czechoslovakia

      1979 maximum solar activity, revolution in Iran

      1989 maximum solar activity, parade of sovereignty and the subsequent collapse of the USSR

      Well, at least Putin has nothing to do with it
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        1. +1
          5 August 2019 17: 52
          Quote: Saw
          All of the listed mass casualties are masked ritual killings during which black magic operations take place whose task is to prevent revolution in Russia and to keep Putin in power.

          There is an alternative version that these sacrifices were made by the liberals in order to summon Cthulhu and seize power in Russia, turning it into a branch of R'lyeh. wassat wassat wassat
    4. +2
      5 August 2019 17: 20
      Quote: Saw
      1905 maximum solar activity, revolution in Russia

      1917 maximum solar activity, revolution in Russia

      1968 maximum solar activity, uprising in Czechoslovakia

      1979 maximum solar activity, revolution in Iran

      1989 maximum solar activity, parade of sovereignty and the subsequent collapse of the USSR

      2000 maximum solar activity, GDP came to power in Russia

      2014 maximum solar activity, revolution in Ukraine

      Revolutions occur during the years of maximum solar activity read the scientific work of the Russian scientist Chizhevsky!

      Recently, solar activity has been falling, solar cycles are becoming weak and slow, the speed of the solar wind is falling, the number of days WITHOUT sunspots is increasing!

      When the next maximum of solar activity will be unknown, scientists predict in 2022-2024.

      Recently, in Putin's Russia, people are massively dying on certain days according to the lunar calendar, for example:

      02:50 April 10, 2003 Fire at a boarding school for the deaf 31 dead all children

      17:56 April 11, 2011 Act of terrorism in the Minsk metro 15 dead

      13:30 July 10, 2011 Crash of the motor ship Bulgaria 122 dead including 28 children

      15:58 September 7, 2011 Plane crash Yak-42 near Yaroslavl 44 dead

      15:55 March 25, 2018 Fire in the Winter Cherry shopping center 60 dead including 37 children

      All of the listed mass deaths occurred on the 9 lunar day, six days before the Full Moon!

      13:00 September 3, 2004 Assault on the school number 1 in Beslan 333 dead including 186 children

      01:40 December 9, 2006 Fire in the drug treatment hospital number 17 in Moscow 46 dead

      01:08 December 5, 2009 Fire at the Lame Horse nightclub 156 dead

      07:14 October 31, 2015 A321 plane crash over the Sinai Peninsula 224 dead including 25 children

      17:00 March 6, 2018 An-26 plane crash near Khmeimim 39 dead

      All of the listed mass deaths occurred on the 19 lunar day, four days after the Full Moon!

      PS Do not forget about free tickets to the cinema of Winter Cherry, about an entertainment event for children on the motor ship Bulgaria!
      I think you understand everything ...

      Yok-Makalek, it’s how you got stuck. I hope you have already purchased a foil hat. Yes, Ren TV’s influence is greatly underestimated. I was always surprised at the fact that the more developed civilization, the more space for obscurantism in it. Wonders. laughing
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        1. +4
          5 August 2019 17: 46
          Quote: Saw
          Relatives of those killed in Beslan are still wondering who blew up the bombs in the school gym after all, there were negotiations with the terrorists!

          This question was answered by the survivors in the gym - terrorists blew it up. It is only the liberda that the "hand of the FSB" is seen everywhere, they apparently secretly connected to the wire, which connected the bomb with the detonation pedal and on which the militant stood with his own foot.
          Quote: Saw
          Free tickets were handed out to the cinema of Winter Cherry on the day of presidential elections, and do not forget about three cinema halls with 550 seats and 60 dead!

          Another conspiracy theory. Relatives of the victims confirm the official number of victims. The rest is nonsense and provocation.
          Quote: Saw
          The fire in the drug treatment hospital number 17 in Moscow occurred due to arson!

          Of course, Putin set fire to it?
          Quote: Saw
          The hockey team Lokomotiv that died in the Air crash near Yaroslavl was supposed to fly not on September 7 but 6, there are also eyewitnesses who claimed explosions on board the plane!

          Isn't Duncan Macleod testifying to this? How can "eyewitnesses" testify to anything if there were no survivors?
          Quote: Saw
          Read about how solar activity has been falling in recent decades!

          Anything can be adjusted to solar activity. Do not believe in conspiracy theories and ... do not watch Ren TV. hi
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            1. +2
              5 August 2019 17: 57
              Quote: Saw
              You are lying, you haven’t even shown a single source!
              The source is the "ancient" treatise "The Silmarillion", to which Ernst Muldashev referred. You just need to be able to read between the lines. good
              Quote: Saw
              In a plane crash near Yaroslavl, there is one survivor.

              Well yes, Duncan MacLeod. laughing
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                1. +3
                  5 August 2019 18: 04
                  Quote: Saw
                  Dear please tell me why in Putin's Russia people are massively dying on certain days according to the lunar calendar?

                  Why is solar activity falling?

                  How do I know, the conclusions are yours. Let me ask you a question, did people die in Yeltsin's Russia without a system? As for the activity, you'd better contact the astronomers. They are clearly in the "topic".
  24. +3
    5 August 2019 13: 48
    A reflex has already been developed: he saw the "Lipchanin" - flipped through the commentary.
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 14: 34
      Now this "Lipchanin" will instruct you on the minuses and declare you a bulwark, a liberoid, a grant-eater, an enemy of mature patriots - well, and further down the list laughing
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 15: 26
        There are very few people in the world whose opinion is important to me. "Lipchanin" is not one of them. So I'll get through somehow. hi
        1. -5
          5 August 2019 16: 27
          Quote: arlekin
          There are very few people in the world whose opinion is important to me. "Lipchanin" is not one of them. So I'll get through somehow.

    2. +1
      5 August 2019 19: 13
      Quote: arlekin
      A reflex has already been developed: he saw the "Lipchanin" - flipped through the commentary.

      But what about civic awareness? No, before scrolling through a comment, you need to put a "minus" - he needs to somehow report on the work done.) Go home, the children are hungry.
  25. +1
    5 August 2019 18: 52
    All these "protests in Moscow" are nothing more than a future redistribution of property .. Russia has grown fat and it's time to shake it up again .. It is desirable to destroy it as a state.
    That's all !
    1. -1
      6 August 2019 00: 56
      A herd of sheep, especially those such as those at these rallies, will never succeed.
  26. +2
    5 August 2019 21: 29
    I had enough strength to read only to the middle of this "analytical" writings of a foreign expert.
    Let them tell someone else about fair elections and the alternation of power. It’s not the USA with their bipartisan system. And otherwise is not possible. Because although there is no direct prohibition, the whole system of elections is built so that a third political force cannot satisfy all the formal requirements. And not in Europe where, before the election for an objectionable candidate, they’re scammed, an investigation, then a court. Everything is honest and incorruptible. The candidate is removed from the election. And as soon as the elections passed, it suddenly turns out that no confirmation was found of the charges.
    And let’s not even stutter about the dispersal of rallies. It is in Russia recently dispersed rallies with rubber bullets and tear gas?
    And generally about the fact that the government should listen to the people. Of course it should. But here is the people who and how much ?. And which of the requirements must be met. After all, the requirements of different people are completely different and contradictory.
    From open sources, I learned that about 3500 thousand were gathered, which is 0,03% of the population of Moscow.
    Now let's do a thought experiment. If only two hundred people gathered in Washington with a demand to put their candidate to the polls who is for universal free medical care (which of course is an undeniable blessing, like the fight against corruption). But at the same time he expresses radical communist or Islamist judgments. He advocates the establishment in the USA of the doctrines of Vilayat al-faqih or Juche. And receives grants from the DPRK or Iran. And his electoral electorate is limited to these two hundred, which is orders of magnitude lower than the result of the most recent outsider in the history of the election. Something I doubt that by the end of the day he was not at best in a psychiatric hospital. And most likely in prison as a foreign agent.
  27. +1
    6 August 2019 00: 31
    Sadly, protest moods are very strong among the youth. And thoughts about the "beautiful West, where everything is almost perfect" in my head. This is also understandable - there is no ideology and ideas that could attract young people. Therefore, these rallies are bullshit, they are not the main problem.
  28. +1
    6 August 2019 06: 50
    Ashkenazi’s wet dreams that will not come true again.
    They so wanted to knock Trump - it did not work.
    However, this is a reminder to all of us that the Russian ethnic group is in extreme confrontation with the world financial elite (yes, this is a euphemism). This is an existential confrontation. They killed our kings, and many of us supported or did not notice.
    Fighting millennial evil is not the easiest destiny. But this is our fate. Otherwise, we will simply be replaced, as is happening in Europe.
    To stand. Stand and hold.
  29. 0
    6 August 2019 11: 05
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Nearly twenty years of rampant prosperity.

    Absolutely.
    I can add
    * In Russia there is one problem - there are people who don’t remember how much Putin did for Russia: *

    • Over 17 years, Putin increased Russia's budget by 22 times, military spending - 30 times, GDP - 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place),

    • Increased gold and currency reserves by 48 times!

    • returned 256 mineral deposits to the Russian jurisdiction (it remains to return 3!).

    • tore apart the most enslaving “liberal” in the history of the production sharing agreement. PSA (explanation below)

    • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.

    • raised industry and agriculture (for 5 consecutive years Russia has been taking the 2nd-3rd place in the world in grain export, overtaking the United States, which is now in 4th place).

    • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.

    • Well, just a trifle: Putin (he) reduced the extinction of Russia's population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.

    • In addition, Putin canceled the Khasavyurt agreement - by which he defended the integrity of Russia, made public the 5th column of NGOs and forbade deputies to have accounts abroad, defended Syria, and stopped the war in Chechnya.
    The abolition of the PSA by Putin is a great achievement! PSA is an agreement under which America robbed Russia from the 90s and gave loans to Yeltsin in return

    Putin fought for its cancellation for almost 4 years with the help of numerous consecutive amendments. So the abolition of the PSA caused America's incredible hatred of Putin, as he took from them the unhindered robbery of Russia. Therefore, America hates Putin and everyone should know about it.


    Singer. Only something I do not feel any increase in well-being, prosperity. One stability, like in a cemetery.
  30. 0
    6 August 2019 15: 50
    but it would be funny if only riot police came to the rallies.
    several thousand opposition in helmets)))
  31. +2
    6 August 2019 15: 52
    Quote: Servisinzhener
    I had enough strength to read only to the middle of this "analytical" writings of a foreign expert.
    Let them tell someone else about fair elections and the alternation of power. It’s not the USA with their bipartisan system.

    in the USA it’s not the most honest system, but at least they don’t violate it as much as you like.
    there, violators of the law, even in small things, are treated very harshly.
    and we have laws only for the weak, the strong ignore them.
    1. +1
      6 August 2019 20: 13
      I studied the law on production sharing all day. Terrified. Arguing that Russia is a colony of the West, we proceed from the external signs of colonial dependence. But we are a legislative colony. Even with Putin's amendments to the production sharing law. And if someone thinks that the law was repealed, then this is not so - it acts! This is the current law, amended only slightly relaxed. It just doesn't fit in my head!
      Does not fit!
      The scale of the country's betrayal by Gorbachev, Yeltsin and the crowd of predecessors is enchanting. The robbery of the country, organized by these fiends of hell, is enchanting. In the history of mankind, neither one nor the other has no equal. And a crazy idea: to return the USSR! Return on a new basis ...
      Actually, I suggested this a little earlier, in a veiled form. But now I understand how naive she was. We are a colony. And how to get out of this state?
      1. 0
        6 August 2019 20: 28
        Quote: depressant
        if someone thinks that the law has been repealed, then this is not so - he acts

        The law governs the general rules regarding the Production Sharing Agreement. And nothing more.

        Do you know the "live", currently in force "Partition Agreements"? Personally, I am not. Therefore, I have no reason to assert that

        Quote: depressant
        We are a colony

        Correct, if I am mistaken request
        1. +1
          6 August 2019 22: 03
          Cat Manul ...
          Like all cats, you are lazy. Why, having doubted my words, not to work on the topic yourself? I will answer, but only once.
          For example, under the production sharing law, the agreement on Sakhalin-1 was extended until 2032, and on Sakhalin-2 - until 2051. And this is not just joint ventures, the activities of which were constantly accompanied by scandals: they constantly increased their cost estimates so that Russia received tens of times less from their activities than they could, or even nothing. They were finally forced to pay at least something by entering into the board of the Russian oligarchs, that is, having received a shareholding. Figs would have had. But only because they introduced that Putin’s amendments to the law allowed this. All of our large-scale industry and the largest of medium-sized enterprises are working under this law. I used to believe that our large entrepreneurs form joint ventures with foreigners in order to get rid of corruption-related attacks by law enforcement and others, but it turns out that it is part of the Western colonial policy towards us, taking into account Putin’s amendments. If they were not there, then all our large and medium industry would belong only to foreigners as their property. And we would be a little unfastened, if unfastened at all.
          Sorry, the phone does not print well, a large amount of posts.
          Good night, cat! :-))
          1. +1
            6 August 2019 22: 17
            Quote: depressant
            under the production sharing law, the agreement on Sakhalin-1 was extended until 2032, and on Sakhalin-2 - until 2051

            Thank you, I will study in detail.

            Quote: depressant
            All of our large-scale industry and the largest of medium-sized enterprises are working under this law.

            I do not believe. Is not obliged to request

            In general, the presence of the words "everything", "everything" and the like suggests the lack of information from their author.

            Quote: depressant
            Goodnight

            Mutually hi
  32. Quote: besik
    these minusers are very active and do not reflect the opinions of the people. It’s like dirty foam in the sea.

    ***
    Opinions of the people?
    The king is good, the king is a criminal. Long live the February Revolution!
    VR good government - VR. government criminals! Long live the October Revolution!
    Stalin is good- Stalin is a criminal. We will implement the decisions of the 20th Congress of the CPSU!
    Khrushchev is good. - Khrushchev is a criminal! Down with the corn!
    Andropov is good - Andropov is a criminal. State Department Agent!
    Gorbachev is good - Gorbachev is a criminal. Long live Perestroika, Acceleration and publicity!
    Yeltsin is good- Yeltsin is a criminal. Down with the gang of an alcoholic!
    Putin is good, Putin ...?
    There is no opinion of the people!
    Who in the Kremlin is that and power!
  33. -1
    7 August 2019 11: 05
    Quote: Vadim237
    It’s just that in Russia 4 out of 10 do not want to work - but they want freebies and that they would be paid a lot regardless whether they work or not

    you're wrong. many simply do not believe that normal work is normally paid.
    our salary grows much better from the ability to bargain and splurge than from zeal. But there are situations where ordinary citizens with a regular education do not see any opportunities to earn money at all.
  34. +2
    12 August 2019 08: 34
    if some kind of woodpeckers of a hipster kind stoke for some kind of justice that is not associated with them, run around among the crowd with specific calls, if the highway is blocked, and the majority of people ..... the ordinary hard worker doesn’t hang out there, then excuse me with a rubber democrat to the ridge ...
  35. +1
    12 August 2019 10: 25
    You can’t stand. We must also gradually arrest for work in uranium mines in Khakassia! I don’t need much, fifty people, but constantly and inevitably !!
  36. 0
    12 August 2019 10: 35
    Complete nonsense ... The author is a big dreamer ... All this has nothing to do with reality.