On the military oath in the United States: Soldiers do not leave, if not brought up ice cream

Today we are discussing the text of the oath given by the US military. At the same time, the discussion should begin with consideration of comments from a person who himself took the oath of allegiance to the United States, becoming a soldier of the American army. Earlier, on the pages of "VO" materials were already published with comments from this native of the CIS (Ivan Rudenko) on the topics of the American military pension and on the features of service in the US Army.

A soldier of the American army, commenting on the text of the oath, focuses on its psychological component. This component in many respects distinguishes the American military oath from many others.

From video:

The American oath is not given after passing the course of a young fighter. It is given on the day your contract is signed. You are still, essentially, a civilian, you are not yet in the service, but you have already signed a contract, become an active soldier of the United States and take the oath.

Particular attention is paid to some moments of the American oath, related to the American mentality itself.

One of the points:

I am a member of one team.

Rudenko notes that if a US Army soldier tries to separate himself from the military team, he will be reminded of the text of the oath and put in place.

A US Army soldier notes that often in foreign (including Russian) media there are materials about the refusal of American soldiers and officers to serve if they were not brought up, for example, ice cream or toilet paper. According to Rudenko, these statements are complete nonsense, since the text of the American oath says that the mission that the soldier (unit) performs is for him in the first place, and everything else cannot be important and does not apply to American military values.

The video discusses filtering issues in the American army and the selection of fighters to perform combat missions directly.

Comments

[NEXUS]

Mattresses have some other concept of Motherland.

A US Army soldier notes that often in foreign (including Russian) media there are materials about the refusal of American soldiers and officers to serve if they were not given, for example, ice cream or toilet paper.

If there is nothing to wipe your ass, Homeland is no longer Homeland. The result of centuries of brainwashing and feeding the electorate of information fast food.

[Cat man null]

Quote: NEXUS

feeding the fast food information electorate

Fast foot is a "fast foot", pulling

[meGrail]

Well, what do you take from a person who could not even master an article?

[Town Hall]

Zema .. you're back on the beat ... fast foot is strong and original

[Ee-mae bee]

Rudenko notes that if a US Army soldier tries to separate himself from the military team, he will be reminded of the text of the oath and put in place.

Author, you accent ...
How are you both? "You will spit on the team - it will wipe out. The team will spit on you - you will choke"
Where is it from?

[Greenwood]

It’s better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate. Our media really like the second option, unfortunately.

[igorbrsv]

This is not the media like the second option. This is the majority of readers love it. I think everyone poses a threat emanating from the enemy (the United States, for example), otherwise they would not have paid attention to him, like to Ukraine. And the statements are just bravado, for example, to raise morale. Here's my mood.

[Victorio]

Quote: Greenwood

It’s better to overestimate the enemy than to underestimate. Our media very fond of the second option, unfortunately.

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all media are, with few exceptions.

[Mouse]

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[yehat]

those who are in the know say that after signing the contract they ask very harshly even without an oath.
be sure that you will work out every dollar that you’ll be paid without hacking, otherwise the money you counted on will be greatly shallowed.

[Dimmedroll]

There is nowhere to grind much. 18 etc per year with a soldier of a contract soldier, without combat. especially not enough to go wild.

[Cartalon]

Then before leaving comments, do they generally read the text or is there enough heading?

[Olenka velikaya]

A Th not a woman right away, it is SMALL, although they receive a salary in the army, they can afford

[Muddy Seeing ORACLE]

He is right in one thing for sure, I want to live free, breathe freely, love freely in a world freed from American hegemonic politics ...

[Yrec]

This type already served in the Armed Forces and, probably, took the oath to Ukraine. What is it like to take military oath several times to different states? I would be silent about the oath.

[agent]

Why protect the American way of life, where no one lives in this way of life ???
So you need to impose this lifestyle, and then heroically defend it.

[georggy]

one thing is clear - they are all members of the same gang.

[Nyrobsky]

The "good" American way of life is ensured by the fact that millions of people around the world are paying for it with their own lives.

[tracer]

Here, most of them write about American soldiers without ever seeing them. No ice cream and all that. What nonsense? I flew in an airplane on one flight with a healthy middle age to pull up a man of about forty. Everything would be fine, but he has no left leg from the knee, a prosthesis in a sneaker. The flight is about an hour, so they got to talking so he fought a former marine from the San Diego Base in Iraq. Cheerful so optimistic. In a word, he is a serious and intelligent adversary, not personally, but if we consider him as a representative of the armed forces of potential partners. Yesterday I saw my grandfather as old as a dinosaur, he could hardly walk, he told his neighbor that he had been living in this town since 1944. So a grandfather in a garrison cap walks around a military man with a mass of badges pinned to it and is clearly proud of it. This speaks of the fighting spirit of those people who through the years carried the pride of serving in the US Army. Everyone can think whatever they want about these people, but I can say with confidence that these people are worthy and serious rivals in the world political arena. All statements about their "weakness" and straightforward regular "gedenism" are nothing more than nonsense and stories of populists trying to hyip on the wave of "correct patriotic mainstream".

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

fought a former marine from the San Diego Base.

"Tracer", why should people be misled again? In San Diego there is an ILC training. And from there they are not sent to fight.

Quote: tracer

Yesterday, the grandfather saw the old one as a dinosaur, barely walks, told his neighbor that he lives in this town with 1944 years.

Well, a little town, one and a half lemons of the population .... If you would have been there then you wouldn’t have called a town, in the top ten cities by population

Quote: tracer

in military caps walks military with a mass pinned icons

Another bullshit ... Boy scouts cling to the cap, the person who served, and even more so who fought knows what the charter and uniform is, will never put awards or signs on the cap ...

Quote: tracer

Funny so optimistic. In a word, a serious and smart opponent

And why did these serious and smart ones regularly snatch away from Russian conscripts-marines, during joint training sessions, not even exercises, when the Arleigh Burkees entered Vladik?

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

All statements about their "weakness" and straightforward regular "gedenism" are nothing more than nonsense and stories of populists trying to hyip on the wave of "correct patriotic mainstream".

And when did the tales of the army of the likely adversary begin to solve social problems? And what does populism have to do with patriotism? You can immediately see the dropout, a liberal-pro-Putin, a lover of Western women, alas, never in real life unprecedented to them.

[tracer]

Again, the clown came running with the knowledge of other people's caps and badges on them. You have never been in America, so it’s not a fancy to fantasize with the Internet. You have beguiled again what? You’ve been shut down, sort of. Did the disease leak again? Who told you that I wrote about San Diego? I mentioned. Well, nothing to say. And I look at you from the Internet directly reporting who served where and what parts are located there. Well do not make people laugh. Although this is your usual role. Come on .. burn ...

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

You have beguiled again what?

Unlike you, I operate with facts, and not with an empty bazaar.

Quote: tracer

Who told you that I wrote about San Diego?

Well, the unknown probably wrote it.

Quote: tracer

former marines fought from San Diego Base

Quote: tracer

I mentioned.

Quote: tracer

that lives in this town since 1944.

Everything is clear.

Quote: tracer

directly report who served where and what units are located there.

For what, there are official sites, but in order to find them, you need at least a little intelligence.

https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Docs/MarineCorps101_2.pdf

The official site of the base in San Diego

https://www.mcrdsd.marines.mil/

So you're back in the puddle ..

[tracer]

And so what ? Well, what proves your first right and to whom? You mean what I wrote just like America has nothing to do with you. What does it stomp on when you are dipped in yours? Invincibility syndrome type? Well, what are you even inventing there is even interesting. Let's have a break.

[timeout]

Quote: tracer

And so what ? Well, what proves your first right and to whom?

I do not need to prove my innocence, I can read in English I can differ from you.

Quote: tracer

You mean what I wrote just like America has nothing to do.

Of course I don’t have it, because I’m not going to live there, but I have enough impressions and acquaintances on business trips.

Quote: tracer

What does it stomp on you from when you are dipped in yours?

Alas, you have managed the sir)). And you have nothing to cover, it's just like peeing against the wind ... All your pearls are against you. Wrap around.

[Berkut24]

and everything else cannot be important and does not apply to American army values.

Is toilet paper no longer an American value? Remember for the future.

[meGrail]

Nada, do the Kiselev-Solovyovs really lie when they say that the Americans don’t go on the attack if they don’t bring toilet paper and magazines ?? It can't be this !!
This so-called veteran is lying! It’s immediately obvious - he sold himself to the imperialists, I suppose he respects Navalny too!

[Luty]

I watched a few materials from this guy. Two he is trying so hard. that the thought involuntarily creeps in, that either they pay him extra money or he couldn’t realize himself in the field of propaganda work. Well, he loves his new Motherland. Well, the poor man is trying so hard. There’s just got to cry.

[M. Michelson]

Who gives such headlines that completely twist the gist of the material ?!

[Chingachguk]

Now it’s clear why the whales do not go where they get the pill ...... This does not coincide with their oath!

[Baursak]

Let's be honest with each other - the oath, of course, is a necessary thing, but it is more of a legal nature than a moral, mobilizing or, as in this case, corporate ("I am a member of one team ..." - as in our lousy JSC the corporate spirit is developed ...). Agree - whether you will be a good pioneer, soldier, patriot depends almost in the least on the text of the oath. The most pompous oaths and the best constitutions are usually found in countries that are unsuccessful or aggressors.

[Jarserge]

Well here the comrade distorts. Failures to attack or complete a mission date back to the time of the Vietnam War. So the units as a whole, the collective, so to speak, went into denial due to non-compliance with the contract terms by the army

[E.S.]

What an unusually empty article.
The only thing that follows from it is the unconditional priority of the goal carried out by the unit over all other laws and values, including American ones.
In conjunction with this, we must recall the actual lack of jurisdiction of the US military, just like the special jurisdiction of the Wehrmacht soldiers on the Eastern Front.
From what it becomes clear why this is how he fought and how this enemy will continue to fight. And draw the appropriate conclusions

[E.S.]

Quote: Baursak

Let's be honest with each other - the oath, of course, is a necessary thing, but it is more of a legal nature than a moral, mobilizing or, as in this case, corporate ("I am a member of one team ..." - as in our lousy JSC the corporate spirit is developed ...). Agree - whether you will be a good pioneer, soldier, patriot depends almost in the least on the text of the oath. The most pompous oaths and the best constitutions are usually found in countries that are unsuccessful or aggressors.

No, don't agree

[E.S.]

Quote: Luty

I watched a few materials from this guy. Two he is trying so hard. that the thought involuntarily creeps in, that either they pay him extra money or he couldn’t realize himself in the field of propaganda work. Well, he loves his new Motherland. Well, the poor man is trying so hard. There’s just got to cry.

Points earned, not enough for the sale of dreams that were before the service :-)