Putin has simplified obtaining Russian citizenship for all residents of Donbass

Russian President Vladimir Putin has simplified obtaining Russian citizenship for Ukrainian citizens living throughout the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The corresponding decree is published on the official Internet portal legal information.

Vladimir Putin signed a decree according to which Ukrainians who lived throughout the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions on both sides of the demarcation line, and not just those who live on the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics, can receive Russian citizenship in a simplified manner.

Make <...> the following changes: from subparagraph "in" of paragraph 1, the words "separate areas" to be deleted

- says the text of the decree.

The decree came into force from the moment of its signing, i.e. from 17 July 2019 of the year.

The first decree, which simplifies obtaining Russian citizenship for residents of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics, Vladimir Putin signed 24 this April. The document indicated that this decision was made in order to protect the rights and freedoms of man and citizen and on the basis of generally accepted principles and norms of international law. Points of issue of Russian passports were opened in the Rostov region.

Later, the Russian president promised to consider the issue of simplified acquisition of Russian citizenship for all citizens of Ukraine, regardless of their place of residence. It was also reported that Putin instructed the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation to work out the issue of obtaining Russian citizenship without "pieces of paper to go back to Ukraine".

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[Honest Citizen]

Later, the Russian president promised to consider the issue of simplified acquisition of Russian citizenship for all citizens of Ukraine, regardless of their place of residence.

This is a plot twist ... Something seems to me that Trump surrendered Ukraine completely on the G-20 ... The only question was what did he buy it for?

[Partizan-45]

Quote: Honest Citizen

This is a plot twist ... Something seems to me that on the G-20 Trump completely surrendered Ukraine

Most likely, I talked to Zelensky, he began to set conditions for him, as in the comedy "Servant of the People" ..
The diagnosis immediately became clear, indistinguishable ... .Only surgical intervention, until gangrene has begun .. That's all!

[Honest Citizen]

Ministers minus Are any of you ready to explain your actions? So with the arguments.
Because the phrase "I didn't like it" will not quite suit me, although from people with mental disabilities it will seem like a masterpiece.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Ministers minus Are any of you ready to explain your actions? So with the arguments.
Because the phrase "I didn't like it" will not quite suit me, although from people with mental disabilities it will seem like a masterpiece.

I noticed a long time ago that there were many liberals and supporters of Ukraine in the military establishment. Alas, the realities of the new generation, even the Russian Federation. They see the Soviet 9 on YouTube in Ukraine, and stupidly think that they are there in the same place as in Russia, and they say we are rubbing game on the box in the Russian Federation. After Ukraine in the Russian Federation, I felt like a Neanderthal: wearing seat belts in a car, hot water in Novosibirsk, good heating, public services, 4G internet (appeared in Kiev only in 2018), and good roads.

[Honest Citizen]

Vyacheslav.
I was last in Ukraine in 2008. More than 10 years ago. I will not say anything about the roads - I do not remember, I was traveling by train, and then it was like taking a taxi around the city. But here we have roads ... maybe we "got drunk", but some roads I can only call "direction". Separately, of course, we have "paysites", Rublyovka, Kutuzovsky ...
As for the liberals and supporters of Ukraine in HE - for God's sake, no one is forbidden to register and leave their opinion. But here's what kills me - for some reason no one wants to justify it.
I made it a rule for myself - if I put a "minus" or "plus", I leave a comment, where I explain my position. I can be wrong, I can be right - not the point, I just do what I think is morally justified. And sometimes I just leave a comment, no "plus" or "minus".
I would like a discussion, but few are ready for it. It is with my own opinion, and I do not like those who like to throw "stamps" from either side.

[tatarin_ru]

I would like a discussion, but few are ready for it. It is with my own opinion, and I do not like those who like to throw "stamps" from either side.

They are called trolls. and there are very, very many ... they will always be, because the site is very popular. The article has just been published, I have time to read one paragraph, and below 10-15 comments. (thoughtful naturally). Get used to it, this is reality. By the way, the same person with several avatars can put a bunch of minuses to you.
You were interested above (were offended)

[nadezhiva]

Not necessarily trolls. I disagree with the opinion, although the post was not negative. It's not that Trump gave up. And the fact that he will not be "sold" for Ukraine today. It's just a principle. The decree came after Zelensky's screams about Requirements for Russia and GDP. Swallowing is not supposed to be. So they snapped deliciously on the nose. It seems that there was no reason initially. Thanks to the kvn-schik, the reason was drawn.

[CommanderDIVA]

"I was last in Ukraine in 2008. More than 10 years ago. I will not say anything about the roads - I don't remember, I was traveling by train, and then it was like taking a taxi around the city" - issue yourself an invitation to Ukraine and take a ride and then tell us about ukrodorogi and suspension of your car

[Honest Citizen]

issue an invitation to Ukraine and ride and then tell us about ukrodorogi and the suspension of your car

In 2006, on the Lanos, after driving along Lenin Street in the city of Zaporozhye, the suspension was changed on the Lanos.
Make an invitation now? I'm afraid Because either my SBU or the radicals will hang me with my political views.

[CommanderDIVA]

Feel free to pour greens in the trash can

[Antares]

Quote: Honest Citizen

I made it a rule for myself - if I put a "minus" or "plus", I leave a comment, where I explain my position

I do not put anyone in principle, no minuses or pluses. If I agree or admire the comment, I write about it.
As for the opinions of Ukrainians about the Russian Federation and Russians about Ukraine, the mass media are mainly formed. If there are an average of 1.5 million Russians in Ukraine out of 160 million population, then it is unlikely that the majority have first-hand information or have seen it themselves. Similarly, across the Russian Federation (although the former in the Russian Federation per capita we have more) among the Ukrainians.
So the majority of Russians think that it is bad here (they freeze and hang for Russian) and the Ukrainians that in the Russian Federation "Putin's terror on the streets" ... I exaggerate, of course. But they think in cliches.
This is characteristic of all (not only the Russian Federation and Ukraine) the best cure for such ignorance is tourism.

[Honest Citizen]

Antares.
Although we argued not so long ago, but in this case I agree with you.

[dvina71]

Quote: Antares

So most Russians think that we have a bad

I’m telling a story that happened to me in the year 13 .. We drove from Moscow ... already in our region we decided to have a snack, we started at the Dolmatov fork .. We sit and eat .. Two men come in and look weird somehow. Look around .. then the question ..- And you can be here for the night? Everyone is perplexed .. one says, stop as much as you want. In response to the question .. and here they are not gangsters? The guys were reassured ... they said that if the bear didn’t hide, then there was no threat .. They left .. Rostov was sitting at the extreme table. He says - So this is from Ukraine. , if they put it there only on guarded. In an open field, either bandits will woo or daisies .. Something tells me that crime has since grown stronger in Ukraine .. isn't it?

[Slavik Ivanov]

The roads are a continuous combination of pits and mounds !!!))))

[Ural-4320]

About the roads: take a ride in Lithuania, there are 2-lane highways past Vilnius and Kaunas, but if you cut them off on the map, the roads there in places are such that the asphalt is not enough to pass 2 cars. Moreover, the terrain "bump-pit" makes it possible to feel like a rally driver. But on the other hand, 90 km / h you can go along this, and the limit in cities is 50, in the villages there are even no signs, and you rustle 90.

[Alex Justice]

I was last time in Ukraine in 2008. More than 10 years ago.

I was there too. The train somehow drove into Ukraine. Ukrainian border guards asked everyone to leave the compartment, except for me. Surely they wanted to rob me when they found out that I was a foreigner. I said that no one comes out of the compartment, everyone will be witnesses. They found fault with foreign pills for a headache, but when they realized that I was not afraid of them and the Russians were witnesses around, they lagged behind me.

When he returned home, the border dog found an apple in my bag :) The border guards gave me a warning. It turns out the importation of fruits into Australia is prohibited, they are afraid of Colorado beetles.

[taiga2018]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

that there were a lot of liberals and supporters of Ukraine at VO.

rather, it became a lot of those who are tired of living quietly, who want to make noise in the squares ...

[A fruit]

Quote: taiga2018

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

that there were a lot of liberals and supporters of Ukraine at VO.

rather, it became a lot of those who are tired of living quietly, who want to make noise in the squares ...

But we don’t need this !!

[Jeremiah]

And why be surprised if there were so many people who wanted to take a tank ride to Odessa, Kuev and Lvov. to shoot at the Russian-speaking Zhidobandera.? Bring, some sort of one led order. So there appeared people who are trying to dissuade them from this by cooling off hot but empty heads .. Do not call them liberals, supporters of Ukraine ... Do you like Russia, it is a wonderful country with huge treasures, the majority of which, unfortunately, generate income from didn’t even smell it ... Live there, come to visit, but not the tank .... Otherwise, you can’t return ... You can minus as much as you want, but listen to these words for your own good ...

[BRDM2M]

And what the hell are you climbing at us with tanks in Lugansk and Donetsk

[boss]

Well, what nonsense again ?!
direct tanks, tanks Donetsk crushed.
why are you silent about the buses with law-enforcers who came to intimidate Donetsk in the 14th? Those whom the youth kicked from the Lenin Square with kicks in the ass?
As they burst on their buses and knees to their buses, asked for forgiveness and vowed to topple over to themselves and never return, and then shells, mines, missiles and bombs began to fall on the Donbass.
And everyone remembers who fired on peaceful, but not targeted cities.
We remember whose planes and helicopters were in the sky.
Ok that quickly landed

[Tochilka]

Notable was the video.

[Jeremiah]

It's not about 14, but about 19 ... you see the difference. Now here some are breaking, to restore order with the help of MLRS and tanks. without even bothering to at least somehow recognize these areas. This is written for them ... And I see that they heard me)))

[Jeremiah]

Well, you see, unnecessary memories begin)). No one had to go anywhere And there would not be such shots from Donetsk and entertaining videos from near Korsun with Crimean delegates. And then everyone wanted to go shout in the square to cut a penny, but it happened like that)))

[Jeremiah]

De jure, you remain districts of two regions that violated the Constitution with their dances with separation and screaming with requests to the neighboring country for accession, which also created a completely unnecessary problem for her. And this is called separatism. For this hell, Ukrainian troops will be in their territory, because otherwise its status is not defined .. It is not necessary just about the referendum, even Moscow, looking at your nonsense, through her fingers, asked not to do this. Look at the photo of Grozny, from the time of two wars, this is what the separatists are doing ... Something Donetsk and Lugansk are not like him, fortunately. Because you always pay for nonsense. If your brothers spoke out against the Kuev regime, it would be a civil conflict, resistance to a coup, loyalty to the Constitution. You look, and Yanek would return to some village and head the country as the legitimate President. But they wanted a business without borders - we all are separating, Putin take us, and this is separatism and violation of territorial integrity .... And therefore, by law, Ukrainian tanks in the Ukrainian Donbass, and you ... criminals

[mark_rod]

Quote: Jeremiah

And therefore, by law, Ukrainian tanks in the Ukrainian Donbass, and you ...... criminals

In fact, according to Ukrainian law, it is forbidden to use armed forces on its territory against its own population. It is a pity that you have all such "smart" legalists.

[Jeremiah]

You also do not miss .... In Chechnya, who fought with? In the Donbass, they also fight with the terrorists)) Voentorg was already very much bargained and vacationers rushed too much to relax. So I had to. Yes, and pass your passports ... where there will be Ukrainian citizens

[CommanderDIVA]

Why Ukraine will not be in trouble with Russia, Russia will be bored because it is interesting to monitor the situation in your country, elections, etc., but seriously, you yourself will each other (LDNR is not included here) sooner or later you will kill no matter how regrettable a more layered country near Russia I I can not name

[Jeremiah]

So I do not appeal to you))) And to those zealous who gathered to fight

[XXXIII]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

I noticed a long time ago that there were many liberals and supporters of Ukraine at VO.

Dug in ... waiting for when to throw on the fan ....

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Ministers minus Are any of you ready to explain your actions? So with the arguments.
Because the phrase "I didn't like it" will not quite suit me, although from people with mental disabilities it will seem like a masterpiece.

I didn’t want to react to your first, stupid, post, but you begged.

= This is a plot twist ... Something seems to me that Trump surrendered Ukraine completely on the G-20 ... The only question remained is WHAT did he buy it for? = With these words you said Putin signed this decree with the permission of Trump. And after that, you are also outraged that you will be ignored?

[Honest Citizen]

With these words, you said Putin signed this decree with the permission of Trump.

With this phrase you simply told me that you do not understand anything in geopolitics.
A simple example: WWII is coming. Stalin "bought" Turkey's non-interference in the war on Germany's side for refusing the straits. You can minus this post as much as you like, but the fact remains.
Further. The United States spent 5 billion dollars on Independence Square - Obama's words. Plus, support for Ukraine for 5 years, not only by the United States but also by its satellites, sanctions and so on. And Suddenly Putin is talking about simplified issuance of passports for almost all citizens of Ukraine. Yeah. Those. In your opinion, has Russia gained such political weight and strength as the USSR since the time of the initial Brezhnev? Just for the US and the EU, Ukraine has become like a suitcase without a handle. But just give back the nested grandmas? I personally do not believe it, and the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation is an occasion for Ukraine to think three times. The civil war is one thing, and the murder of Russian citizens is another. So Trump asked for something in return. So I asked what.
The Kuril Islands are disappearing, because the Russian Federation expressed a CLEAR position on this issue, so this is something else. Well, in the next month or two we'll see. It is possible that Putin gave Turkey a passport, or rather, non-interference in the US sanctions against it. I do not presume to say.
And after that you are surprised that I am surprised that I have to "chew" such elementary things?
The right word, I feel sad.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Honest Citizen

A simple example: WWII is coming. Stalin "bought" Turkey's non-interference in the war on Germany's side for refusing the straits.

Again, your words say that Stalin "owned" the straits, and then handed them over to the Turks. Is it so? Learn to correctly formulate and express your thoughts and you will be plus.

Quote: Honest Citizen

And Suddenly Putin is talking about simplified issuance of passports for almost all citizens of Ukraine.

Let me remind you - he talked about this even before the G-20. So your hints of an agreement on the G-20 passed by.

Quote: Honest Citizen

and the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation is an occasion for Ukraine to think three times.

Think who forbids.

Quote: Honest Citizen

The civil war is one thing, and the murder of Russian citizens is another.

What did you mean?

Quote: Honest Citizen

I do not presume to say.

But this is correct.

[Honest Citizen]

Again, your words indicate that Stalin "owned" the straits

Stalin promised that the USSR will not qualify for straits - it's a little different. But if you ALL need to chew, then I'm sorry, it seemed to me adults here.

Let me remind you - he talked about this even before the G-20. So your hints of an agreement on the G-20 passed by.

For residents of LDNR - no doubt, but about ALL Ukraine - only after the summit.

Think who forbids.

Personally, no one to me, but you probably Kiselev, Solovyov and other Malakhov.

What did you mean?

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo Just imagine that the entire population of Donetsk received Russian passports. And there a couple of shells from the APU flew in and civilians died. If my memory serves me right, the Duma and SovFed gave Putin the authority to use military force, and no one took these powers back. Further - still bother to think for yourself.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Stalin promised that the USSR would not claim the straits -

And so it was necessary to write right away, and then - refused, refused, from the straits. The Russian language makes it possible to be precise in language. This is the first. And the second - when and to whom did he promise such a thing?

Quote: Honest Citizen

For residents of LDNR - no doubt, but about ALL Ukraine - only after the summit.

= Apr 27. 2019 - "We are generally thinking about granting our citizenship to the citizens of Ukraine in a simplified manner," he said on ... = (this is Putin said.)
The G-20 Summit in Osaka is the 14th meeting of the leaders of the states and the European Union, members of the G-20 (G-28), held in the city of Osaka (Japan) on June 29 - 2019, 1 [XNUMX]. =
If, in your opinion, April 27 was later than June 29, then you are right, after the summit, granting Russian citizenship to all residents of Ukraine

Quote: Honest Citizen

If my memory serves me right, the Duma and SovFed gave Putin the authority to use military force, and no one took these powers back.

Memory has changed you. Once again. Putin regained these powers after the annexation of Crimea.

[Honest Citizen]

excuse me for starting out of order, but ...

Vladimir Putin said that he was considering the possibility of providing Russian passports to all citizens of Ukraine in a simplified manner. And not just people living in the LPR and the DPR.

Putin’s words of April 27 probably differ from the news that is published today - words and instructions
And your words do not contradict: we think and give for elaboration - probably different things? Do not find?
Well and still

The head of state made a proposal to cancel the resolution of the Federation Council "on the use of the Russian Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine" before traveling to Vienna for negotiations with the President of Austria. Such a measure should contribute to a peaceful settlement of the conflict in the south-east of Ukraine. Nevertheless, even if the Federation Council satisfies Putin's request, the president will not lose the right to send troops into Ukraine, since in December 2009, then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev received from the Federation Council an indefinite right to the operational use of the country's Armed Forces abroad.

The Federation Council gave an indefinite permission to use the Russian army abroad so that the Armed Forces of the country could fulfill their functions in the event that it is not possible to obtain parliamentary sanction. Such a situation may arise, for example, in the event of a nuclear missile attack or at the outbreak of hostilities in Russia without declaring war.

It’s on the question of who refused what ... By the way, the latter was published on Dnitochkar, well, not a pro-Putin resource.
Are we playing next?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Putin’s words of April 27 probably differ from the news that is published today - words and instructions

You have a logic problem. Today's news applies only to citizens living throughout the Donetsk and Lugansk regions and does not apply to all citizens of Ukraine at all.

Quote: Honest Citizen

Such a situation may arise, for example, in the event of a nuclear missile attack or at the outbreak of hostilities in Russia without declaring war.

What kind of stupid person wrote this? In this situation - an attack on the country - the president, as the supreme commander in chief, is obliged by the constitution to take measures, i.e. apply the sun to repel the blow. And for this, he does not need the permission of any authorities.
Turn on your brains.

Quote: Honest Citizen

With a proposal to cancel the resolution of the Federation Council "on the use of the Armed Forces of Russia on the territory of Ukraine" chapter

To which the SF responded satisfactorily, i.e. canceled its decision on the president’s right to use the armed forces in Ukraine.
Will you persist in your misunderstanding of the essence of the issue?

[Gardamir]

If memory serves me right,

Then you must remember how in 2014 shells flew from our Ukrainian territory to our side and even a person died. But it was a simple serf, so the Kremlin did not even notice the death of a Russian citizen.

[Honest Citizen]

Well, if that, then let me unsubscribe in PM, I do not want to submit for discussion here. There is simply a situation until May 8, 2014 and after.

[tatarin_ru]

The right word, I feel sad.

Well this is one of the opinions, yours. Pay attention to Georgia, unrest. Baltic States as if on command.
Trump from Ukraine squeezed everything he could, the last emphasis is gas transit, in 2020 this topic will be obsolete. It’s expensive to maintain it today, but just like that, the stripes don’t give a cent, handed over - I didn’t give it up, I don’t agree, I rather froze the situation on my part, issuing passports does not mean anything, this is more of a concession. There is still a long way to stabilize the situation there.

or rather, non-interference in the US sanctions policy against it. I do not presume to say.

Well, in this issue they are not interested in our opinion. They are independent. Rather, something else.

[CommanderDIVA]

"So Trump asked for something in return" - one of the sheets from a folder with incriminating materials after Trump's art in Moscow when he was a businessman, something like this

[Antares]

Quote: Honest Citizen

And Suddenly Putin is talking about simplified issuance of passports for almost all citizens of Ukraine

like the author writes about the inhabitants of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. No there - all Ukrainians.
Given that there are quite a lot of displaced people from these regions, they compactly live in the south and in Kiev (well, and Kharkov).
Why does everyone believe that a Russian passport is the goal of Ukrainians? The value then fell after 2014 (economic, not moral). If this is the way to save residents of the regions (get a passport and leave for Russia), then you can understand. But this is not a way to save the situation. Just a policy tool. He promised to protect, he gave passports and you can come to the Russian Federation.
True, there are still boyars with their bureaucracy in obtaining a passport ....

[Honest Citizen]

Why does everyone believe that a Russian passport is the goal of Ukrainians?

But this is not a way to save the situation.

If I almost completely agree with the first quote - the Russian passport is far from such a goal as, say, a Canadian passport (for Ukrainians) or another EU country or the USA, then let me disagree with the second one.
I wrote, but I repeat, just imagine that the residents of LDNR (all) received Russian passports. I believe that everyone understands the mobilization potential of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. I'm not talking about aggression, but ... The shelling, I believe, will end. Civil war is one thing, and the second is an act of aggression against residents (citizens) of another state.

[Gardamir]

AND SUDDENLY

Yes, not suddenly. Putin immediately, without hesitation, recognized Poroshenko as president. When it became clear that the partner could not sit still, they began to wet Zelensky. By the way, how many billions went into anti-Ukrainian TV broadcasts on Russian television? They continue to wet Zelensky, not by chance and did not suddenly begin to issue passports after the election. What prevented the start of the procedure for issuing passports in the Donbass?

The Kuril Islands disappear

God forbid!

[Minato2020]

Quote: Honest Citizen

... Just for the US and the EU, Ukraine has become like a suitcase without a handle. But to give just so invested dibs? ...

All money invested on Maidan has more than paid off (Yatsenyuk, who exported gold to the United States, will confirm)))
It remains only to raise prices for fuel and utilities and utilities in order to get the rest. But these are little things for the USA.
So Trump did not ask for anything in connection with the situation in Ukraine. Another thing is Iran, the PRC and the DPRK.

[qwert789as]

Excuse me, this is about what was said before. I, a resident of Donetsk, need to collect a bunch of certificates for a DNR passport, and then exactly the same for the Russian one, so that I would be recorded on the electronic queue after 4 months, and here please come write a statement and wait for an answer, no additional passports are needed. I’m just in shock, and Putin can’t give a decree so that we could get a passport without an extra stack of documents, because our silly officials without a decree from the Russian Federation do not do anything themselves. But it seems to me that it will be even worse further, to get a DNR passport, you will have to prove that you are worthy of this honorary title, that's just interesting guys who got the first and second disability groups and get 3200 how can they explain all this

[tatarin_ru]

although from people with intellectual disabilities and it will seem like a masterpiece.

Put a minus, if you want justification, rudeness in any manifestation does not paint the opponent, even if I agree with you You did not think that there could be two points of view and both were already left in the comments, readers read and left their opinions as a plus or minus in favor of one or the other. what's the point of duplicating thoughts.

[Bshkaus]

Gentlemen minus one. Are any of you ready to explain your actions?

I’m justifying my minus.
Look, the FMS system in our country does not work on its own, the number of inspectors and capacities do not correspond to the number of migrants, due to which the wildest queues in the FMS are formed.
Secondly, this system is very corrupt and many obstacles are created by the employees themselves, so that people exhausted by constant "reversals" due to "incorrect" completed documents turn to special "assistants for registration of temporary residence and residence permit", and the prices for these services can score in Yandex.
Further, Putin gives a simplification to the inhabitants of the LPR, maybe he did it with a sincere desire to really help people, but the executor of this order is the very FMS, which has not been able to establish work for many years in Russia itself, of course, that they could not arrange the issuance and residents of the LPNR (the number of documents issued to the LPNR residents is negligible, and the filter and the number of "spreads" are simply enormous).
I repeat, the problem is not in political will, but in the failure of the body that implements this will.
On the one hand, loud statements are made to a part of the Ukrainian population "we will not abandon you," but on the other hand, the FMS system is so vicious that these statements remain empty concussions in order to troll Zelensky.
We cannot provide a problem-free issue of passports even to Russians who return to their historical homeland, but you want the inhabitants of the LPNR to suddenly experience such "joy".
The exception is Crimea, but for the period of issuing passports, FMS employees from all over Russia were pulled to the Crimea, passports were distributed to Crimean residents, but at that time there was even more subsidence and overloaded FMS in the Russian Federation itself.

[Honest Citizen]

You justified your minus :)
But what about the passports of Russian citizens in South Ossetia?

[Ivan58]

I agree to all 100. A niece from the Lugansk region, married 2 years to a citizen of the Russian Federation, citizenship is promised another 3 years later.

[Alex Justice]

We have 2 years and must prove that the marriage is not fictitious.

[Antares]

Quote: Bshkaus

On the one hand, loud statements are made to a part of the Ukrainian population "we will not abandon you," but on the other hand, the FMS system is so vicious that these statements remain empty concussions in order to troll Zelensky.

they thought that at this speed, what now, it takes 20 years to hand out passports to the majority. So all the same, a way of putting pressure on Zelensky. With Poroshenko a partner and a better choice, they could, but did not. And then right away.

[Azis]

A friend of her daughter (a citizen of the Russian Federation) gave birth to a child abroad from her foreign husband. Obtaining citizenship by a child through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs took about 3 months and 200 euros. Although the newborn doesn’t seem to need to be checked for any account, it’s still a lot of certificates and documents with an apostille. Amazed by her husband’s consent to introduce the child to Russian culture ...

[Minato2020]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Gentlemen minus one. Are any of you ready to explain your actions? So, with arguments.
Because the phrase "I didn't like it" will not quite suit me, although from people with mental disabilities it will seem like a masterpiece.

Although I didn’t put a minus, I think that Trump has more important things to do than the "third level showdown" with Ukraine. That is, Trump did not hand over anyone.
PS Distribution of passports of the Russian Federation to citizens of Ukraine? Maybe then we will hand out to the Serbs, because they also requested citizenship of the Russian Federation.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Honest Citizen

This is a plot twist ... Something seems to me that Trump surrendered Ukraine completely on the G-20 ... The only question was what did he buy it for?

Do you want a share? Otkatik crave ...

[Honest Citizen]

And you were upset that you didn’t dare ask a rollman before?

[Xnumx vis]

Are you upset ... You ask who and how much received ... ...Chacha is worn past the nose,
Past the company - I plum ...

[Honest Citizen]

Well, if you are not completely lazy - see my answer just above my friend under the nickname "Krasnoyarsk". Too lazy to copy and paste.
And then I expect an apology from you.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Honest Citizen

And then I expect an apology from you

Apologize ... For what!?

[Lord of the Sith]

Here is the decree itself

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Honest Citizen

This is a plot twist ... Something seems to me that Trump surrendered Ukraine completely on the G-20 ...

Most likely on the contrary - they did not agree. After that, in view of the lack of the prospect of awakening sanity among the "American partners", the solution of the "Urkain issue" from the format "Let's bargain and agree" was transformed into the format - "If you don't want it, we will solve the problem in a different way. Somehow I think so.

[Honest Citizen]

Dmitry, I would like to think like you, but the Russian Federation has not yet gained the power that it was under the USSR. Until the Constitution is amended and the Central Bank cannot carry out the issue of the ruble, I am afraid that there was still political bargaining.
I understand that we can only guess, but ...
I’m suggesting several options, but so far I don’t see with whom to discuss ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Honest Citizen

Until the Constitution is amended and the Central Bank cannot carry out the issue of the ruble, I am afraid that there was still political bargaining.

So he was political, although the economy is almost inseparable from politics. And we have something to offer at the auction with the United States on the Urkain issue as a "geopolitical lot", from the interests of mattresses in Venezuela, Iran, Turkey and Syria (with pro-American forces of Kurds and other "democratic" forces) to gas interests in Europe, the Arctic routes and the Silk Roads, but "the Americans' politicum weighed down with the intellect" (according to M. Zadornov) acts exclusively within the framework of the action plan against Russia developed by Brzezinski and Co., do not adjust it in accordance with the current countries that are insignificant in comparison with the United States in military and economic confrontation. As for the global economy, the United States itself is actively taking measures to unbalance it. For all the seemingly positive dynamics of growth in the US economy, mattresses will default if the ceiling of the national debt is not increased. In the currency war with China, playing to the depreciation of the yuan, the United States may also come to the denomination of the dollar. Russia is preparing for this storm and is actively increasing its gold reserves, reducing the share of the dollar both in its gold and foreign exchange reserves and in trade settlements with other countries by switching to payment in national currencies. Trump has elections on his nose, and it seems to him that he is "a little not up to Urkaina" and why not resolve the Urkain question "not in a standard way" if it is impossible to reach an agreement in a standard way?

[Honest Citizen]

why not settle the Urkain question "not in a standard way" if it is impossible to come to an agreement in a standard way?

There is a share of risk, in the sense that then you have to wait for some kind of pod from the "partners".

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Honest Citizen

There is a share of risk, in the sense that then you have to wait for some kind of pod from the "partners".

This and do not go to the grandmother! Meanness, this and the network are official US international politics.

[To be or not to be]

Look for time correlation of events
See what happened in the next few days === "Vidsogodnі, 16 linden, nabuv the law" On the safety of the function of the Ukrainian state move ".
Today, July 16, the law "On ensuring the functioning of the Ukrainian language as a state language" came into force
I think so. no need to explain

[den3080]

It would be necessary to add another Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson and Kharkov regions.

[NKT]

Better yet, accept the idea of ​​Zhirinovsky.

[Partizan-45]

Quote: NKT

Better yet, accept the idea of ​​Zhirinovsky.

Well Zhirinovsky, Wasserman, Kedmi, etc. "smart things say", but then everything turns out to be the other way around .. It's better not to listen to their "nightingale voices" ..
Cheat!

[kefan]

I agree with you, this is a serious omission, we hope that this will be fixed soon.

[machinistvl]

Everything goes to the point that soon the whole east of Ukraine, including Kharkov, Zaporizhzhya regions will have Russian passports.

[New Year day]

Quote: machinistvl

the whole east of Ukraine, including Kharkov, Zaporizhzhya regions will have Russian passports.

Dreams Dreams
where is your sweetness

[boss]

how, they’ll get it right!
you read the decree carefully, it’s nothing!
who has a residence permit, who managed to draw up a paper on participation in the resettlement program, RPP.
so all those people and so, without this decree issued citizenship.
and for ordinary residents of Donbass, these promises, decrees, etc., remained fairy tales and empty promises.
believe me, this decree, in particular, has not greatly simplified anything.
pure water populism.

[Kronos]

Too late . It was necessary to think in 2014

[boss]

thinking is never too late.
in the Donbass there are a lot of people dreaming of returning to Russia or citizenship.
but I completely agree with you, in 14 of these there were many times more.

[Kronos]

Then 5 years ago, many wanted and what is the result? Some were imprisoned and killed, while others looked at eternal life under shelling and in the blockade rightly decided that they did not need it

[Partizan-45]

Quote: den3080

It would be necessary to add another Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson and Kharkov regions.

It's a matter of time .. You need to check it very carefully! And how do we usually get "all the benefits of refugees" Bandera families in jeeps gathered rushing forward!
here you need to work closely with the LDNR security service .. And check to check .. They’ll start hiding and pretending now .. They’re still hit!
But for those who really want and ideological, they push them out with their elbows .. It happened!

[Antares]

Quote: Partizan-45

And how do we usually get "all the benefits of refugees" Bandera families in jeeps gathered rushing forward!

from our region, the Russians rushed to the first place with permanent residence (in 2014) home. And there were quite a lot of them. We thought that it would be like in the Caucasus. Then the fuse passed. Mixed families still live. The procedure for obtaining residence permits and permanent residence as before. Not changed. Is that all biometrics. What Ukrainians what Russians.
We don’t burn like that with a Russian passport. Although the program (if you have a USSR passport) was possible. Or by marriage. But why? What is where we are not better? And the climate is definitely worse ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: den3080

It would be necessary to add another Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson and Kharkov regions.

To that and goes.

Later, the Russian president promised to consider the issue of simplified acquisition of Russian citizenship. for all citizens of Ukraine, regardless of their place of residence.

[BRDM2M]

What is it all of a sudden? How they will live under shelling, how they will go out after shelling and gather neighbors in parts in the yard and bury pyamo near the children's sandbox. And then you can talk

[samarin1969]

It is very small and inconsequential.

[Vadim237]

Given the demographic crisis in Russia, this is just the same.

[PalBor]

In small steps we go to recognition? Or is the Kremlin just a little scary of Zelensky and pushing for federalization?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: PalBor

In small steps we go to recognition? Or is the Kremlin just a little scary of Zelensky and pushing for federalization?

Putin doesn’t scare anyone .. He doesn’t give a damn about Mr. Ze and all their camarilla ... Time will pass and the sex of Ukraine will have Russian citizenship ... Then we'll see .. the fight goes on for a long time ... Of course, this step had to be taken about fifteen years back ... Upon the coming to power of Yushchenko ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: 30 vis

had to be done about fifteen years ago ...

Fifteen years ago, we ourselves were ... hmm ... a little not in those conditions, in order to fully engage in the fulfillment of world destinies.

[Dym71]

Quote: PalBor

Or is the Kremlin just a little scary of Zelensky and pushing for federalization?

Unlike the Darkest, he usually warns and offers acceptable solutions for the parties to solve the problem, if this does not work, he tightens the loop.

[Nycomed]

Well, how many people will be blessed with double citizenship!

[anjey]

And the Ukrainian passport says "PASSPORT" in Russian , Putin triumphantly goes on the planet ....

[anjey]

According to the new law on language, which entered into force on the territory of Krajina - it is necessary to recognize all Ukrainian passports as invalid, the show should continue , especially the "leading" -profi ...

[Azis]

How will Ausweis be in Ukrainian?

[Antares]

Quote: anjey

And the Ukrainian passport says "PASSPORT" in Russian, Putin is triumphantly walking the planet ....

joke of the day ..
In English, the Passport is also written only in Latin letters ..
suddenly in Ukrainian Passport will also be a passport.
And Putin must have walked victoriously and filled us passports not only in Ukrainian but also in Russian (for example, I have one) and an example

Wait Putin really did something - he began to fill out biometrics in English (although this is Putin’s partner but not the point)

[Avior]

Passport is in French

[taiga2018]

what a dubious decision it is to give citizenship to people infected with the Maidan mood ... one thing is people aged 40 and older, the majority still have Soviet hardening, but their children and grandchildren are for the most part already a generation who can not be turned back from Banderaysukhevych- heroes and does not resent the demolition of the monument to Zhukov ...

[anjey]

At least, this is a real choice for people infected with the "heavenly west" and having business and capital there and will not go to Russia themselves, as well as some of the frostbitten-pro-Western youth, but not all of them, remember how many young patriots died on May 2, 2014. in the Odessa House of Trade Unions, and Putin will have carte blanche to protect the civilian population of Donbass

[taiga2018]

Quote: anjey

died in the May 2 Odessa House of Trade Unions.

but in my opinion all normal Ukrainians died there, the survivors were thrown into jail, either left for Russia or fought in the Donbass, just like those who tried to confront the Nazis in other cities of Ukraine ...

[anjey]

All the normal ones couldn’t leave, it’s not so easy to give up everything and radically change their lives, and even the poor ordinary people from Ukraine in Russia, I think they won’t meet paradise, but it’s quite difficult to rise without a place.

[taiga2018]

Quote: anjey

All normal couldn’t leave,

it means they will adapt, shout "glory to Ukraine" loudest of all, be the first to shell Donetsk and Lugansk and scream about Russia's aggression ...

[anjey]

Shelling every day is not Lviv and not Kiev, and not even Zhmerinka .....

[APASUS]

If Ze does not give up clowning in the coming years and cannot offer the residents of the DPR of the Lugansk People's Republic of the Lugansk People’s Republic a real plan for living together, then these territories will be lost for the country forever. I already don’t believe in returning these areas to the fold of Ukraine, but I’m confused by the position Putin on this issue

[New Year day]

Quote: APASUS

but I’m confused by Putin’s position on this issue

by the year 24 may change

[boss]

maybe 34
or do not change at all.
please vang it ...

[anjey]

Ukraine, which it was under the USSR, strong, economically developed and moderately independent, had a voice at the UN, now it will no longer be the same, neither in territorial, nor in political, and especially in the economic subtext ..... why you disgust protection of citizens of Russia in the territory of Donbass, on legally legal grounds ???

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: APASUS

but I’m confused by Putin’s position on this issue

Putin’s position not only on this issue, but generally confuses the sex of the country .. but he doesn’t care much .. the fact that they simplified obtaining citizenship does not mean at all that in reality all LDNR residents will receive it, since our passport office is working .. perhaps only the Russian Post is slower ..

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: APASUS

If Ze does not give up clowning in the coming years and cannot offer the residents of the DPR of the Lugansk People's Republic of the Lugansk People’s Republic a real plan for living together, then these territories will be lost for the country forever. I already don’t believe in returning these areas to the fold of Ukraine, but I’m confused by the position Putin on this issue

Zee will not give up clowning. She is in his blood. In addition, he does not understand that Crimea, LDNR, are not toys that can be given to someone to play, and then taken back. Krum and LDNR, it is first of all - people. And they must be respected. As soon as he understands this, which I doubt, things will go smoothly.

[Alexander Petrov1]

Well now, when all the inhabitants become citizens of Russia, it is possible, in accordance with UN laws, to officially send troops and make military bases.

[Antares]

Quote: Alexander Petrov1

Well now, when all the inhabitants become citizens of Russia, it is possible, in accordance with UN laws, to officially send troops and make military bases.

20 years in the gray zone? Yes, people would rather leave for the Russian Federation than wait for such joy .. Yes, and the Russian passport on the territory of Ukraine (and the Russian Federation recognizes ORDILO as part of Ukraine) does not give anything. The Russian Federation urgently announces the danger of visiting the war zone for its citizens.

[Alexander Petrov1]

Why go to Russia if there are military bases in Russia and there will be peace and citizenship of Russia, live peacefully in Little Russia, bring up children and receive payments as a citizen of Russia and travel without borders to Russia, how do Abkhazia and South Ossetia travel?

[Vadim Golubkov]

The media write differently "Putin has simplified the acquisition of Russian citizenship for residents of the entire Donbass who moved to Russia." As I understand it, this is even much more.

[Karaul14]

The number of documents that they can process per day will allow issuing at least half of the residents of the LPR-DPR passports only after 20 years, but no one remembers this. This is just another political move.

[Stavros]

Congratulations to you.

[UVB]

Today there was information that in all 10000 people in both republics received citizenship. According to state. As of 01.06.19, the statistics committee of the LNR has 1 million 450 thousand people (this is without the occupied territories) Personally, I submitted all the documents on June 1, received citizenship yesterday !!!

[figwam]

Quote: UVB

received citizenship yesterday !!!

Congratulations!

[UVB]

A little nuance. When submitting documents, first of all, you need an LPR passport, and getting it to residents of the territories controlled by the ruin will be very problematic. And the largest lines in LDNR are now precisely for local passports.

[tatarin_ru]

Personally, I submitted all the documents on June 1, received citizenship yesterday !!!

1,5 months is not so critical, although I understand that it is not easy. Congratulations.!!!!

[anjey]

Bureaucracy and corruption under any political systems existed, the state did not exist without officials, and many abuse it not childishly, perhaps it is necessary to liberalize less with them, and the oligators should be forced to share, to raise the incomes of the population, to move away from ideology "to fall to any feeding trough and by truth and not cut the dough by truth, "tighten control over the state apparatus ...

[vladimirvn]

It looks like our President is ready to go vabank.

[cat Rusich]

In my opinion, it is time for the residents of Donetsk and Lugansk region (the same for all residents of the South-East of Ukraine) to decide on the path to the future. Or flow into Russian citizenship and return to their homeland together with their native land or, "keep silent in a rag," becoming finally, "residents of Ukraine,"

[Million]

Simplified, does not mean that it will become easier to obtain citizenship. It's Putin! He says one thing, but in reality ...

[UVB]

Quote: Million

Simplified - does not mean that getting citizenship will be easier

It really means! No need to live permanently on the territory of the Russian Federation for a certain period, heaps of different certificates, medical examinations, exams and other trials!

[Million]

To promise is not to marry. Alas ...

[Lontus]

Has it finally come to the conclusion that people will not forgive the betrayal of Russians in Russian Ukraine?
No matter how hard the Dudaev propagandists try, (including here).
The instinct of self-preservation has earned.
Well now, if only the bureaucrats did not drown out the declared goal.

[senima56]

It's good. It is humane .... But when, finally, "Will it simplify the acquisition of citizenship for all RUSSIANS" ?! After the institutes and technical schools, the Russians were assigned to the "union republics", and now they have to prove that they are Russians !? Negro, Arab, etc. it is easier to obtain citizenship from the belligerent countries! What nonsense ?!

[113262a]

The settlement contact group in southeastern Ukraine agreed on an unlimited truce in the Donbass. This was announced on Wednesday by the Special Representative of the OSCE Chairman Martin Saydik at the end of the meeting in the Belarusian capital. In the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPR, the armistice was called a breakthrough.
“A breakthrough was needed in agreeing on additional measures to strengthen and control the ceasefire, which will be included in the joint statement of the parties on the introduction of an unlimited and sustainable ceasefire. Thanks to the perseverance and efforts of the Republics and negotiating mediators - the OSCE and the Russian Federation - they managed to force the Ukrainian side to agree to all necessary effective measures, ”said Natalia Nikonorova, head of the Republic’s Foreign Ministry.

Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1563386994

[Antares]

Quote: 113262

managed to force the Ukrainian side to agree with all the necessary effective measures, ”said the head of the Republic’s Foreign Ministry, Natalya Nikonorova.

do not force. This time Zelensky sent Kuchma with specific powers to negotiate.
The pressure of the Russian Federation and ORDILO Ukraine somehow it does not matter. But curators are also interested in Zelensky too. One hundred days end, and little can be presented.
Therefore, the curators and Zelensky are unanimous, and Kuchma also carries out their assignment.
I especially liked the item on the page - to remove the symbolism of the ORDILO quasigroups and move over so that the Ukrainians would repair the bridge.

[113262a]

Move over? You have been deceived! The Ukrainian side agreed to proceed with the joint repair of the destroyed bridge at the Village of Lugansk. According to the results of the meeting of the members of the Contact Group and its working subgroups held today in Minsk, Boris Gryzlov, Russia's representative in the Contact Group, said.

“Today, representatives of Kiev and Lugansk confirmed the need to rebuild the bridge in Stanitsa Lugansk and agreed that the parties would begin repairing it at the same time. The parties also agreed that the bridge will be used exclusively for civilian purposes, ”Gryzlov said.

[petrol cutter]

What exactly is the simplification? Some common phrases. Previously, it was necessary to collect five hundred documents (and translate into Russian, all this is a paid business), and now three hundred and twenty-eight? ...

[Avior]

I didn’t think that the moment would come when I would fully support Zhirinovsky.

disgusted to watch how opponents of his proposal dodge and lie

[Lord of the Sith]

Great, the Russians are returning home))

[Slavik Ivanov]

This is another matter !!!! It was high time and the Nazis would be calmer to finish off the country all the pro-Russian will leave, although of course they were waiting for the pro-Russian candidate for president !! Now the West will overthrow Vova Zee and put Putin’s likeness only in Ukraine and it will be ridiculous and then Ukraine will begin to seriously prepare for war with Russia!

[aleks700]

In less than five years. Gave birth.