Upgraded BCC "Vintorez" and AS "Val" went into series

The upgraded silent sniper rifle VSS "Vintorez" and the special machine gun AS "Val" went into a series in Tula. This was told by the head of the shooting complex of the Tula Arms Plant, Alexander Moiseenko, during the Army-2019 forum.

At the Tula Arms Plant (TOZ), mass production of the upgraded Vintorez sniper rifle began, which received the designation BCCM and the modernized special machine gun AS Val, which received the designation ASM. The new VSSM and AFM differ from the basic models by twice the increased trunk resource, new stores of increased capacity, as well as new interfaces such as Picatinny rail slats for installing scopes and other accessories.

BSSM is used to keep food out of stores with 20 ammunition capacity, and AFM - 30 ammunition. Previously, these figures were 10 and 20 cartridges, respectively

- said Moiseenko.

The base model of the Vintorez Air Force was developed by the Central Research Institute for Radio and Nuclear Engineering of the city of Klimovsk and is being manufactured at the Tula Arms Plant since 1987. 9 mm caliber rifle is designed to conduct silent and flameless shooting at a distance of up to 400 meters (sighting).

The AC (special automaton) "Val" was developed on the basis of the Vintorez Air Force and unified with a rifle at 70%. The automatic caliber 9 mm is designed to conduct silent shooting at a distance of up to 400 meters (sighting). It is considered one of the most accurate and reliable models of special small arms designed for special forces in the world.

Comments

[Maz]

Oh well. God grant and more

[Cananecat]

Shock absorbing bipods, a plastic butt and an increased store capacity ... and you can report about the modernization and add the M index.
... and who after this does not agree that Ukraine is our brotherly state ...? )))

[Bacha]

The first on the list was an increase in barrel life. Have you specifically omitted this item?

[Yarik]

Rubber seals also do not last long. They completely forgot about them

[Frieda]

Quote: Yarik

Rubber seals also do not last long. They completely forgot about them

Where did you see "rubber seals" in VSS? I regularly use VSS in my service and I will tell you a secret, the only rubber part in Vintorez is the butt plate. You may have confused the design of the VSS muffler with the design of the PBS-1, where there really is a rubber membrane, but there has never been such a membrane in Vintorez, only a steel separator, so its resource is equal to the resource of the weapon as a whole.

[Cananecat]

In what year were the BCC and nuclear power plants adopted? If my memory serves me, then in the 87th.
It took 30 years to increase the barrel resource and equip it with everything else?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Canecat

30 years were needed to increase the barrel resource

And if 30 years ago there were no such technologies?

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Canecat

In what year were the BCC and nuclear power plants adopted? If my memory serves me, then in the 87th.
It took 30 years to increase the barrel resource and equip it with everything else?

And what actually do not like? M-16 introduced something like 2000 different changes since its inception, it has gone through a bunch of upgrades. And something I don’t remember if someone bukhtel and was against .....

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ramzaj99

And what actually do not like? M-16 made something like 2000 different changes since its inception, she survived a bunch of upgrades

In the end, the AK was adopted in 1947, and the AKM in 1974. So it is modernized, although not particularly different from AK

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Lipchanin

In the end, AK was put into service in the 1947 year, and AKM in the 1974 year.

The AK was put into service in 1949, and the AKM in 1959-60! AK-74 entered service in 1974! Do not lead people into "bewilderment"!

[raw174]

Quote: Canecat

and you can report about modernization and add the index M.

How to say? This is precisely modernization ... In Ukraine, they would shout that they had created a new type of weapon, and we have modestly - modernization ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Canecat

Shock absorbing bipods, a plastic butt and an increased store capacity ... and you can report about the modernization and add the M index.
... and who after this does not agree that Ukraine is our brotherly state ...? )))

Do you know everything about modernization? Personally familiar with upgraded weapons?

[Amateur]

An elderberry garden, and an uncle in Kuev?

[NEOZ]

Quote: Canecat

Canecat (Canecat) Today, 10:36 AM NEW
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Shock absorbing bipods, a plastic butt and an increased store capacity ... and you can report about the modernization and add the M index.

and picatinny slats .... forgot?

[Andrey VOV]

And where does Ukraine ????

[Archivist Vasya]

Good news, especially about increasing store capacity. In life, the truth did not shoot, but in Stalker - his favorite weapon))

[Catfish]

I agree, colleague, the increased capacity of the store, especially for the machine, is long overdue. Finally, but ... better late than never.

[Horse, people and soul]

Good morning buddy!

Do you have the impression that the new plastic stock is somewhat of the same ... how would a "housekeeper do"?

[Catfish]

Hi friend!

True, there is some kind of flimsyness in it. But this is with a sniper, with a machine gun, I hope the butt is more serious.

[Horse, people and soul]

Yes, I'm not talking about flimsy, but about absurdity. As if reluctantly and hastily done. Without love for the subject and without respect for the end user.

[Catfish]

Awkwardness - by itself, but flimsy there on the face, I have not even seen such "frames" in pneumatics.
Look in PM, I scribbled something there.

[Evil echo]

Give two. something lately the news is more and more encouraging than vice versa.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Evil Echo

Give two. something lately the news is more and more encouraging than vice versa.

I'm next in line ...

[sniper]

rifles Air force "Vintorez"

What is it like? Weak rifle ??? Used to be like BCC called names if sclerosis doesn’t change me

[sniper]

Quote: Piramidon

and once a typo crept in.

Well, start with the fact that it was correctly printed only once, and the rest with an error. In two places, the moderators have already corrected, we are waiting for full corrections. In addition, there are no trifles in the press. If you publish an opus, so at least read it is not too lazy ... Something like that ...

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

A good body kit turned out, and the civilian version also turned out great.

[Hog]

Air Force sniper rifle "Vintorez", designated the Air Force

And not BCC and BCCM case?
PS: Putting the store from VAL on Vintorez is still a modernization, but on VAL new ones are good.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Hog

And not BCC and BCCM case?

Of course, BCC is in the title and along the way. And the Air Force is just a typo

mass production of a modernized sniper rifle began BCC "Vintorez", which received the designation VSSM

[yehat]

it would be nice to work with cartridges to be more effective.

[sniper]

Quote: yehat

it would be nice to work with cartridges

Yes, there is not much to be gained ... Ballistics of a heavy subsonic bullet is a stubborn and intricate thing. The barrel length is only 200 mm, so there are no special buns to expect. BCC - special sniper rifle, designed to work at short distances with reduced visibility of the shot. The volume of the shot is reduced due to the integrated silencer (not at all silent) and there is no muzzle flame emission during the shot. It works qualitatively up to two hundred meters, but 400 is only for the growth target, and even then ....

[Terenin]

Quote: sniper

The volume of the shot is reduced due to the integrated silencer (not at all silent)

Exactly. I remember how we fired, "Vintorez", (at the second Chechen one) from the premises of an iron-concrete farm, so it seemed to us such a roar that we were "flying a fly" away from sin.

[sniper]

Quote: Terenin

from the premises of the reinforced concrete farm,

Well, in such a tambourine the air will seem like a howitzer ... But seriously, because of the volume of the shot, like a small thing, it’s quite worthy of myself, as for my taste ...

[Izotovp]

.40 LW by Lobaev

[user1212]

Quote: yehat

it would be nice to work with cartridges to be more effective

Serially 7H9 and 7H12 are issued since 2004

[yehat]

Quote: sniper

It works qualitatively up to two hundred meters, but 400 is only for the growth target, and even then ....

Well, for the city, quite adequate distances.
but I was not talking about increasing the range of fire (although this is extremely useful in the light of the US plan to bring the distance of fire contact to 400m). I talked about the price, m. increasing the effectiveness of bullets against bronikov, expanding the range of cartridges, increasing shelf life, reducing noise, etc.

[sniper]

Quote: yehat

Well, for the city, quite adequate distances.

That's right, objects of dense development, greenhouse ... For these purposes, they did it ...

[yehat]

another question. it turned out that I was studying work with SVD, I was surprised to find that there are several specific gripes for working in it.
And what unusual positions / racks / positions does the BCC have?
Will bipods interfere?

[sniper]

Quote: yehat

Will bipods interfere?

The bipod is a removable thing, and not always convenient, with a quick transfer of the aiming point, when work is being carried out on different targets located at a distance from each other, they will more likely interfere than help ...

[Strashila]

It remains to make a machine gun for a full set of these cartridges. With a firing range of 500 meters, with a device for low-noise shooting, like the Badger, he is not heard from 500 there.

[Rainman_1]

Lyapota is what !!! Brutally looks !!!

[CAT BAIYUN]

Great cars ... But for Vintorez on 20 rounds, in my opinion, it was not necessary. Not .. I'm talking about what is and is - there will be application, but for VAL, increased capacity is what you need.
One trouble with these undeniably outstanding products: cleaning. But ... you love to ride ... love and ride ....

[sniper]

Quote: KOT BYUN

cleaning

Yeah ... After a whip or a Kalash, a very exciting experience ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

Well so and yes ... And what to do?

[sniper]

Quote: KOT BYUN

Sho do?

Duc, ento ... To clean !!!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: KOT BYUN

for Vintorez on 20 cartridges, in my opinion, it was not necessary. Not..

For "Vintorez" there was a magazine for 10 rounds ... a magazine for 20 rounds appeared when the AS "Val" machine gun was "skimmed" on the basis of the VSS! Considering that the VSS is capable of conducting automatic fire (in bursts), then a magazine for 20 rounds will not hurt ...

[Stas1973]

About shops - complete crap. There were 10, and 20, and 30. Moreover, interchangeable. Only VSS in laying had a dozen and twenty, two of this and that, if memory serves, and the speakers - 20 and 30, also two like

[Nikolaevich I]

For VSS, a magazine for 10 rounds was adopted (!) ... a magazine for 20 rounds was adopted for the AS "Val" machine gun. Magazines for 10 and 20 rounds are interchangeable; since AU was made on the basis of VSS. I heard something about the store for 30 rounds: it seems that they made a small "experimental" batch (for a test ...), but he did not "like" the soldiers; flaws were discovered ... Some time ago, it was possible to get a magazine for 30 rounds, but it was difficult (!) ... there were few of them! And at the present time, perhaps, it is impossible ...

[sniper]

Quote: Piramidon

take an interest in the status of

And so it is visible: and boor ... What else to expect from YOU ...

[sniper]

Oops ... I forgot about the autocensor. Well, YOU know everything about yourself ...

[Stas1973]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

For VSS, a magazine for 10 rounds was adopted (!) ... a magazine for 20 rounds was adopted for the AS "Val" machine gun. Magazines for 10 and 20 rounds are interchangeable; since AU was made on the basis of VSS. I heard something about the store for 30 rounds: it seems that they made a small "experimental" batch (for a test ...), but he did not "like" the soldiers; flaws were discovered ... Some time ago, it was possible to get a magazine for 30 rounds, but it was difficult (!) ... there were few of them! And at the present time, perhaps, it is impossible ...

It was not possible, in principle, to get horns. Went to each product in a styling.