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Upgraded BCC "Vintorez" and AS "Val" went into series

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The upgraded silent sniper rifle VSS "Vintorez" and the special machine gun AS "Val" went into a series in Tula. This was told by the head of the shooting complex of the Tula Arms Plant, Alexander Moiseenko, during the Army-2019 forum.


Upgraded BCC "Vintorez" and AS "Val" went into series


At the Tula Arms Plant (TOZ), mass production of the upgraded Vintorez sniper rifle began, which received the designation BCCM and the modernized special machine gun AS Val, which received the designation ASM. The new VSSM and AFM differ from the basic models by twice the increased trunk resource, new stores of increased capacity, as well as new interfaces such as Picatinny rail slats for installing scopes and other accessories.

BSSM is used to keep food out of stores with 20 ammunition capacity, and AFM - 30 ammunition. Previously, these figures were 10 and 20 cartridges, respectively

- said Moiseenko.

The base model of the Vintorez Air Force was developed by the Central Research Institute for Radio and Nuclear Engineering of the city of Klimovsk and is being manufactured at the Tula Arms Plant since 1987. 9 mm caliber rifle is designed to conduct silent and flameless shooting at a distance of up to 400 meters (sighting).

The AC (special automaton) "Val" was developed on the basis of the Vintorez Air Force and unified with a rifle at 70%. The automatic caliber 9 mm is designed to conduct silent shooting at a distance of up to 400 meters (sighting). It is considered one of the most accurate and reliable models of special small arms designed for special forces in the world.

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  1. Maz
    Maz 1 July 2019 10: 32
    +8
    Oh well. God grant and more
  2. Cananecat
    Cananecat 1 July 2019 10: 36
    -47%
    Shock absorbing bipods, a plastic butt and an increased store capacity ... and you can report about the modernization and add the M index.
    ... and who after this does not agree that Ukraine is our brotherly state ...? )))
    1. Bacha
      Bacha 1 July 2019 10: 48
      +48
      The first on the list was an increase in barrel life. Have you specifically omitted this item?
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 1 July 2019 11: 41
        +2
        Rubber seals also do not last long. They completely forgot about them
        1. Frieda
          Frieda 3 July 2019 09: 19
          0
          Quote: Yarik
          Rubber seals also do not last long. They completely forgot about them

          Where did you see "rubber seals" in VSS? I regularly use VSS in my service and I will tell you a secret, the only rubber part in Vintorez is the butt plate. You may have confused the design of the VSS muffler with the design of the PBS-1, where there really is a rubber membrane, but there has never been such a membrane in Vintorez, only a steel separator, so its resource is equal to the resource of the weapon as a whole.
      2. Cananecat
        Cananecat 1 July 2019 11: 46
        -4
        In what year were the BCC and nuclear power plants adopted? If my memory serves me, then in the 87th.
        It took 30 years to increase the barrel resource and equip it with everything else?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 July 2019 11: 55
          +10
          Quote: Canecat
          30 years were needed to increase the barrel resource

          And if 30 years ago there were no such technologies?
        2. Ramzaj99
          Ramzaj99 1 July 2019 12: 39
          +10
          Quote: Canecat
          In what year were the BCC and nuclear power plants adopted? If my memory serves me, then in the 87th.
          It took 30 years to increase the barrel resource and equip it with everything else?

          And what actually do not like? M-16 introduced something like 2000 different changes since its inception, it has gone through a bunch of upgrades. And something I don’t remember if someone bukhtel and was against .....
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 1 July 2019 13: 07
            -5
            Quote: Ramzaj99
            And what actually do not like? M-16 made something like 2000 different changes since its inception, she survived a bunch of upgrades

            In the end, the AK was adopted in 1947, and the AKM in 1974. So it is modernized, although not particularly different from AK
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 1 July 2019 14: 19
              +12
              Quote: Lipchanin
              In the end, AK was put into service in the 1947 year, and AKM in the 1974 year.

              The AK was put into service in 1949, and the AKM in 1959-60! AK-74 entered service in 1974! Do not lead people into "bewilderment"!
    2. raw174
      raw174 1 July 2019 10: 50
      +16
      Quote: Canecat
      and you can report about modernization and add the index M.

      How to say? This is precisely modernization ... In Ukraine, they would shout that they had created a new type of weapon, and we have modestly - modernization ...
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    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 July 2019 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: Canecat
      Shock absorbing bipods, a plastic butt and an increased store capacity ... and you can report about the modernization and add the M index.
      ... and who after this does not agree that Ukraine is our brotherly state ...? )))

      Do you know everything about modernization? Personally familiar with upgraded weapons?
    5. Amateur
      Amateur 1 July 2019 11: 43
      0
      An elderberry garden, and an uncle in Kuev?
    6. NEOZ
      NEOZ 1 July 2019 12: 34
      +2
      Quote: Canecat

      Canecat (Canecat) Today, 10:36 AM NEW
      -24%
      Shock absorbing bipods, a plastic butt and an increased store capacity ... and you can report about the modernization and add the M index.

      and picatinny slats .... forgot?
    7. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 1 July 2019 14: 05
      -2
      And where does Ukraine ????
  3. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 1 July 2019 10: 37
    +12
    Good news, especially about increasing store capacity. In life, the truth did not shoot, but in Stalker - his favorite weapon)) good
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 1 July 2019 10: 50
      +7
      I agree, colleague, the increased capacity of the store, especially for the machine, is long overdue. Finally, but ... better late than never.
      1. Horse, people and soul
        Horse, people and soul 1 July 2019 11: 12
        +2
        Good morning buddy!

        Do you have the impression that the new plastic stock is somewhat of the same ... how would a "housekeeper do"?

        hi
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 1 July 2019 12: 19
          +1
          Hi friend!

          True, there is some kind of flimsyness in it. But this is with a sniper, with a machine gun, I hope the butt is more serious.
          1. Horse, people and soul
            Horse, people and soul 1 July 2019 13: 01
            +1
            Yes, I'm not talking about flimsy, but about absurdity. As if reluctantly and hastily done. Without love for the subject and without respect for the end user.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 1 July 2019 13: 04
              +1
              Awkwardness - by itself, but flimsy there on the face, I have not even seen such "frames" in pneumatics.
              Look in PM, I scribbled something there. smile
  4. Evil echo
    Evil echo 1 July 2019 10: 39
    +2
    Give two. good something lately the news is more and more encouraging than vice versa.
    1. Wolverine
      Wolverine 1 July 2019 11: 07
      0
      Quote: Evil Echo
      Give two. good something lately the news is more and more encouraging than vice versa.

      I'm next in line ... wassat
  5. sniper
    sniper 1 July 2019 10: 46
    +5
    rifles Air force "Vintorez"

    What is it like? Weak rifle ??? Used to be like BCC called names if sclerosis doesn’t change me wassat
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      1. sniper
        sniper 1 July 2019 11: 40
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        and once a typo crept in.

        Well, start with the fact that it was correctly printed only once, and the rest with an error. In two places, the moderators have already corrected, we are waiting for full corrections. In addition, there are no trifles in the press. If you publish an opus, so at least read it is not too lazy ... Something like that ...
  6. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 1 July 2019 10: 48
    -1
    A good body kit turned out, and the civilian version also turned out great.
  7. Hog
    Hog 1 July 2019 10: 55
    +3
    Air Force sniper rifle "Vintorez", designated the Air Force

    And not BCC and BCCM case?
    PS: Putting the store from VAL on Vintorez is still a modernization, but on VAL new ones are good.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 1 July 2019 11: 37
      -1
      Quote: Hog
      And not BCC and BCCM case?

      Of course, BCC is in the title and along the way. And the Air Force is just a typo
      mass production of a modernized sniper rifle began BCC "Vintorez", which received the designation VSSM
  8. yehat
    yehat 1 July 2019 10: 56
    -2
    it would be nice to work with cartridges to be more effective.
    1. sniper
      sniper 1 July 2019 11: 12
      0
      Quote: yehat
      it would be nice to work with cartridges

      Yes, there is not much to be gained ... Ballistics of a heavy subsonic bullet is a stubborn and intricate thing. The barrel length is only 200 mm, so there are no special buns to expect. BCC - special sniper rifle, designed to work at short distances with reduced visibility of the shot. The volume of the shot is reduced due to the integrated silencer (not at all silent) and there is no muzzle flame emission during the shot. It works qualitatively up to two hundred meters, but 400 is only for the growth target, and even then ....
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 1 July 2019 12: 12
        +1
        Quote: sniper
        The volume of the shot is reduced due to the integrated silencer (not at all silent)

        Exactly. yes I remember how we fired, "Vintorez", (at the second Chechen one) from the premises of an iron-concrete farm, so it seemed to us such a roar that we were "flying a fly" away from sin.
        1. sniper
          sniper 1 July 2019 12: 23
          +4
          Quote: Terenin
          from the premises of the reinforced concrete farm,

          Well, in such a tambourine the air will seem like a howitzer ... laughing But seriously, because of the volume of the shot, like a small thing, it’s quite worthy of myself, as for my taste ... drinks
      2. Izotovp
        Izotovp 1 July 2019 13: 17
        0
        .40 LW by Lobaev
    2. user1212
      user1212 1 July 2019 11: 26
      0
      Quote: yehat
      it would be nice to work with cartridges to be more effective

      Serially 7H9 and 7H12 are issued since 2004
  9. yehat
    yehat 1 July 2019 11: 18
    -2
    Quote: sniper
    It works qualitatively up to two hundred meters, but 400 is only for the growth target, and even then ....

    Well, for the city, quite adequate distances.
    but I was not talking about increasing the range of fire (although this is extremely useful in the light of the US plan to bring the distance of fire contact to 400m). I talked about the price, m. increasing the effectiveness of bullets against bronikov, expanding the range of cartridges, increasing shelf life, reducing noise, etc.
    1. sniper
      sniper 1 July 2019 11: 24
      +1
      Quote: yehat
      Well, for the city, quite adequate distances.

      That's right, objects of dense development, greenhouse ... For these purposes, they did it ... drinks
  10. yehat
    yehat 1 July 2019 11: 24
    -1
    another question. it turned out that I was studying work with SVD, I was surprised to find that there are several specific gripes for working in it.
    And what unusual positions / racks / positions does the BCC have?
    Will bipods interfere?
    1. sniper
      sniper 1 July 2019 11: 30
      +1
      Quote: yehat
      Will bipods interfere?

      The bipod is a removable thing, and not always convenient, with a quick transfer of the aiming point, when work is being carried out on different targets located at a distance from each other, they will more likely interfere than help ...
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 1 July 2019 11: 24
    -1
    It remains to make a machine gun for a full set of these cartridges. With a firing range of 500 meters, with a device for low-noise shooting, like the Badger, he is not heard from 500 there.
  12. Rainman_1
    Rainman_1 1 July 2019 11: 55
    0
    Lyapota is what !!! Brutally looks !!!
  13. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 1 July 2019 12: 12
    +2
    Great cars ... But for Vintorez on 20 rounds, in my opinion, it was not necessary. Not .. I'm talking about what is and is - there will be application, but for VAL, increased capacity is what you need.
    One trouble with these undeniably outstanding products: cleaning. But ... you love to ride ... love and ride .... laughing
    1. sniper
      sniper 1 July 2019 12: 30
      0
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      cleaning

      Yeah ... After a whip or a Kalash, a very exciting experience ... good
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 1 July 2019 12: 46
        +1
        Well so and yes ... And what to do? request
        1. sniper
          sniper 1 July 2019 12: 47
          +1
          Quote: KOT BYUN
          Sho do?

          Duc, ento ... To clean !!! wassat
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 1 July 2019 14: 26
      +2
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      for Vintorez on 20 cartridges, in my opinion, it was not necessary. Not..

      For "Vintorez" there was a magazine for 10 rounds ... a magazine for 20 rounds appeared when the AS "Val" machine gun was "skimmed" on the basis of the VSS! Considering that the VSS is capable of conducting automatic fire (in bursts), then a magazine for 20 rounds will not hurt ...
  14. Stas1973
    Stas1973 1 July 2019 12: 56
    +2
    About shops - complete crap. There were 10, and 20, and 30. Moreover, interchangeable. Only VSS in laying had a dozen and twenty, two of this and that, if memory serves, and the speakers - 20 and 30, also two like
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 1 July 2019 14: 39
      0
      For VSS, a magazine for 10 rounds was adopted (!) ... a magazine for 20 rounds was adopted for the AS "Val" machine gun. Magazines for 10 and 20 rounds are interchangeable; since AU was made on the basis of VSS. I heard something about the store for 30 rounds: it seems that they made a small "experimental" batch (for a test ...), but he did not "like" the soldiers; flaws were discovered ... Some time ago, it was possible to get a magazine for 30 rounds, but it was difficult (!) ... there were few of them! And at the present time, perhaps, it is impossible ...
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    1. sniper
      sniper 1 July 2019 16: 18
      0
      Quote: Piramidon
      take an interest in the status of

      And so it is visible: and boor ... What else to expect from YOU ... negative
      1. sniper
        sniper 1 July 2019 16: 20
        0
        Oops ... I forgot about the autocensor. Well, YOU know everything about yourself ... wassat
  16. Stas1973
    Stas1973 1 July 2019 18: 07
    0
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    For VSS, a magazine for 10 rounds was adopted (!) ... a magazine for 20 rounds was adopted for the AS "Val" machine gun. Magazines for 10 and 20 rounds are interchangeable; since AU was made on the basis of VSS. I heard something about the store for 30 rounds: it seems that they made a small "experimental" batch (for a test ...), but he did not "like" the soldiers; flaws were discovered ... Some time ago, it was possible to get a magazine for 30 rounds, but it was difficult (!) ... there were few of them! And at the present time, perhaps, it is impossible ...

    It was not possible, in principle, to get horns. Went to each product in a styling.