On the inevitability of Stalinization of Russia

Russian Federation 1990-2000's looks a lot like Soviet Russia 1920's. Even the foreign policy situation is similar - the collapse of the socialist bloc (the defeat of the USSR and its allies in the Third World War) did not lead to a stabilization of the situation on the planet, but only worsened it. The systemic crisis has engulfed all spheres of human society — morality, ideology, politics, economics, etc. Russia is again facing the challenge of a big war and the threat of an internal explosion.

The robbery of Russia continues - the export of technology, the gene pool (women and children), and capital from it. Part of the "elite" of the country is an outspoken "fifth column" working on the final solution to the "Russian question". Another group of managers is “indifferent”, i.e. people who solve only narrow, selfish tasks of enriching themselves and loved ones, fitting the family into the world order. Russophobia and the fear of “Russianness” are the basis of the internal politics of these groups. Although only reliance on the Russian civilization code, program, cultural and historical tradition can give us a boost of energy for a throw into the future (at the same time it will save all of humanity). Children and youth are brought up according to Western standards, they already from early childhood understand that everything is tied to the “golden calf”. With the help of the deliberately destructible system of education, healthcare, the media, alcohol, tobacco, more powerful dope, degenerative subcultures, modified products, the mental, intellectual and physical health of the nation is destroyed. By falsifying history (desovetization, de-Stalinization, de-Russification of the past), strangers turn the people into a fully controlled crowd. The decentralization of power, once again launched by Medvedev, and corruption are destroying the state apparatus, which at the very least, but so far has coped with the tasks of providing 140 million people with basic benefits. Most people do not understand that the presence of water, electricity, gas, heating, order on roads and settlements, the absence of raids on slaves and other spoils from across Russian borders, etc., are all the work of the state. Helping the current “r-revolutionaries” to destroy the Russian Federation, people do not realize that life on the ruins of a power will be much more “fun” (if you wish, you can study the life of modern Afghanistan, Libya, some parts of Syria and take into account the problem of winter). Subsistence farming and pipe maintenance will feed no more than 30–40 million people (under an optimistic scenario).

Entry into the WTO system deals a serious blow to the economy. And she is the fault of Kudrin, who demonetized and ditched the Russian economy, not in the best condition. It is necessary to take into account the dependence of the financial system of Russia on the West and world trends, the dependence of the economy on commodity prices. True, analysts of the “Russian service” of the American Bank of America and Merrill Lynch, led by Vladimir Osakovsky, reassure us. In their opinion, the decline in population and the fall in energy prices is not a disaster at all, but vice versa - a blessing for the Russian Federation. They say that thanks to this, by the time 2020 Russia will go to the category of developed countries: we will have high wages, low inflation and stable economic growth, and the middle class will become “European”. Supposedly, a shortage of manpower will spur wage growth, lower company costs, and modernize production. As a result, American analysts advise Russia to reduce its population so that survivors become better off. However, the Americans did not tell how, for example, with the 60-80 million population to keep the vast territories of Russia from Japan, China, the builders of the “World Caliphate” and the Ottoman Empire-2, which apply for them colonize the Russian Arctic and Siberia.

In Russia, the development of the Pomeranian, Siberian, Ural, Circassian, Tatar, Bashkir, Finno-Ugric, Far Eastern, Kaliningrad and other types of separatism has been going on successfully for a long time. In some cases, it is multiplied by the interests of ethnocracy. Practically everything is ready for the fact that if the central government collapses in Moscow, the whole of Russia will flare up. The concept of development is there, the local intelligentsia is prepared, there are plenty of cash infusions, as well as informational support. It is clear that the local elite are ready, if Moscow is no longer able to punish them, take a course on the “realization of the age-old aspirations of the population” and raise their status to the state. In a number of territories, such as Tataria, ethnocravers are no longer eager to build their own state, relying on the help of “good uncles” from Riyadh, Doha, Ankara, Washington, etc. The population of the regions will not even be asked. To lie to him about a bright future without a “totalitarian past” and the heritage of the “Russian occupation regime” is worthless, especially if there is an informational and financial resource, outside support.

Here are two significant news on this topic. Two nationalist organizations of Tatarstan and Bashkiria - the Union of Tatar youth (STM) "Azatlyk" and the Bashkir movement "Cook Storm", - announced the union. The leader of the STM, Nail Nabiullin, said that the new union is open and ready to unite with all the nationalist movements of the Russian Federation "in the struggle for the rights of non-Russian peoples." In his opinion, Russians have privileges, in particular in the field of education and access to TV, which other peoples living in Russia do not have. The Tatar-Bashkir Union is going to create a common Turkic organization of nationally oriented youth to fight for the rights and interests of all Turkic and other non-Russian nations. The Tatar-Bashkir nationalists consider their possible allies to be representatives of such republics as Mari El, Chuvashia, Udmurtia, as well as Altai and Yakutia. According to the leader of the CTM: “Since Tatarstan is a state, even if it’s still part of Russia, we have to organize our own internal structure, independently of Moscow.”

And the second news: the idea was born (again - the first swallows passed in 1990-ies) to create a “Federative Republic of the Big Urals” in which the regions of the Big Urals, divided between the Russian Federation and Kazakhstan, should be integrated, and a single economic, political and cultural space - "from the Arctic to the Caspian Sea and the Aral." I plan to include in the new state: Nenets district, Komi, Yamal, Ugra, Vyatka (Kirov region), Komi-Permyatsky district, Udmurtia, Prikamye (Perm region), Middle Urals (Sverdlovsk region), Tyumen (Tyumen region), Bashkiria, Yuzhny Ural (Chelyabinsk region), Trans-Urals (Kurgan region), Orenburg region, Ural region (Yaik), Guryev-Atyrau region, Aktobe region, Kostanay region, Ishim, Akmola region, New Earth and Franz Josef Land.

Peaceful years are over. The liberal (frankly traitorous) part of the “elite” understands this very well - the time when the losers moved to other places, or resigned with the prospect of returns (in the worst case, just resigned), has passed. On the horizon "37" year and "Stalin". That is why in recent years "de-Stalinization" and "Medvedization" of Russia have been so frantically going. Given the thousand-year Russian cultural and historical tradition, "Stalin" can not go back ...

The last Emperor

It has already been noted that modern Russia is very similar to the USSR 1920's. Stalin inherited a country - the Landfill, where the technologies of building the New World Order were tested. Authorities seized power "financial international" - the Bolsheviks, internationalists, led by Trotsky. Any dissatisfaction was suppressed with the help of the Cheka and special-purpose units, including international ones (Chinese, Latvian, Hungarian, etc., arrows). The industry was destroyed by the Revolution and the Civil War. The gold reserve of the empire was plundered by the interventionists, the White Guards and the Bolsheviks-Trotskyists. Most of the village returned to the Middle Ages with its natural economy. The armed forces suffered a defeat in 1920 from Poland, which was not a great power. The West, through joint ventures, gained access to Russia's raw materials wealth. Soviet Russia was supposed to be a raw materials appendage of the West, a supplier of cheap grain, timber, oil, metals, a market for the sale of goods. In Russia, technologies for building a new slave-owning system, already planetary in nature, were created: a “pyramid society” headed by the All-Union Communist Party (Bolshevik) - the colonial administration of the West was created (naturally, most ordinary Bolsheviks used “obscure”). The base of the pyramid was tens of millions of disenfranchised Russians, and at the very top a group of "initiates" led by Trotsky. As a result, the masters of the West did not even have to spend money on the maintenance of the colonial administration and the occupation forces.

Cities are mired in poverty, unemployment, the dominance of bureaucracy, and corruption. This era is perfectly conveyed by the “Golden Calf” - the novel by I. Ilf and E. Petrov. Soviet Russia was literally penetrated by the spirit of theft and fraud. The Soviet newspapers 1920-ies are filled with stories about crime, swindlers, theft of state-owned enterprises managers, merging crime with the party-bureaucratic apparatus, etc. “Progressive people” (degenerates) destroyed the family’s institute, worked on the “sexual revolution”, destroyed Russian culture and history .

The population has actually just experienced the catastrophe of the collapse of the Russian Empire. Millions of people used to fight and kill, but lost the habit of work and creativity. Most of the intelligentsia was brought up in the spirit of hatred of historical Russia and could only destroy — tsarism, Christianity, moral principles, “old” art, the institution of the family, etc. The psychological structure of the Russian people broke down. The old world is dead, and the new one did not bring the expected happiness.

Russian civilization went to complete destruction. Stalin did literally the impossible. He not only kept the country on the brink, but made a breakthrough into the future. This shot was so powerful that all of humanity took a few steps to the Stars. Stalin was able to destroy most of the Bolshevik internationalists (some were able to lie low), outplayed them in the difficult struggle for power. He was able to inspire people to show them the image of a beautiful Tomorrow - the world of creation, work and creativity. Stalin himself believed in such a world and really tried to bring a new reality to life. And the new world was born right before our eyes. That is why, the time has come for the West’s masters to “give birth” to Hitler, to subjugate all of Europe to him and to throw this power against the new fairy-tale world.

The last emperor was able to solve several key tasks at once: sacred (to give a meaning to the existence of civilization), political, cultural, social, economic (infrastructural), military. At present, these tasks again require solutions ...

Comments

[vadimus]

Yes, situevina! Well, not in the suit we crap Western-style! Not a berry from that field! And our role is different ...

[andrey586]

As a result, American analysts advise Russia to reduce its population so that survivors become better off
We found an adviser wishing the prosperity of Russia! Listen to amers and do the opposite

[Churchill]

In the 90s they had a chance to destroy Russia, but they overslept it! And now the time is not right, the people have matured. But of course it is not worth relaxing. Therefore, it is necessary to crush like fleas these young talents dreaming of some kind of sovereignty. By and large, the "new revolutionaries" do not give a damn about the country, the fate of the people, their main thing is PR , advertising, drive. And with such it is criminal to stand on ceremony.

[aksakal]

Quote: Churchill

In the 90s they had a chance to ruin Russia, but they overslept it! And now is not the time, people have matured

- they didn't sleep a damn. We were greedy, we thought that since the process had started with collapse, the centrifugal forces would already finish everything to the end, why put money and efforts? And so it went on. Mentemir Shaimiev was already shouting and banging on the table demanding "sovereignty." The parade of sovereignties was in full swing. I hate Yeltsin terribly, but I love justice even more. And in fairness, I can still give Boris a huge plus - when Shaimiev raised the issue of sovereignty point-blank, Yeltsin did not object, dissuade, and then also send troops to hold the regions. He simply said literally: "Take this sovereignty as much as you want!" It was a very risky, but at the same time brilliant step! Here all the constituent entities of the Federation, headed by Tatarstan, caught an awkward silence, and a little later they completely turned back! It turns out that they really didn't need sovereignty at all, they just wanted to assert themselves - but it turned out to be tested, when the prospect of real sovereignty, along with the price of this sovereignty, really loomed. And you already know - freedom is sweet, but freedom is both hard, and sometimes too heavy. For the Balts and rodents, it was not at all capable of it. Now, in fact, overseas American colonies such as "State of Georgia 2".
So that the amers did not oversleep, but hoped for a chance, greedy. And there Serbia and events in Europe. So here it is, my opinion.

[Homer]

aksakal,
They live on a computer. And the computer gave them - everything, the end of the game, Russia is done with. But we didn’t know about it, went crazy and thought ...

[qwz_qwz]

American analysts advise Russia to reduce its population

Based on demographic trends - people listen to this "advice" ...

[755962]

Quote: andrey586

As a result, American analysts advise Russia to reduce its population so that survivors become better off

This sacred thought was still voiced by the "iron lady" during the Cold War era.

The former Prime Minister of England dropped a cryptic phrase: "According to the world community, it is economically expedient to live in Russia for 15 million people." The translator thought he misheard and translated 50 million. But Thatcher immediately corrected him. There were another 150 million of us at that time. Where are the other 135 million? And the rest will go under the real knife of madness, lack of culture, debauchery, drugs, alcohol and tobacco.

Four years ago, this very Madeleine Albright, who was then US Secretary of State, came to our country in person and, speaking, dropped the same mysterious phrase: "According to the world community, it is economically expedient to live in Russia for 15 million people." Where are the other 130? There were 145 million of us already then. As you can see, the misanthropic program has just set a course for its implementation.

Whom did these cannibals of the 20-21 century decide to leave in our country? Two million is the service of the Trans-Siberian Railway, the shortest route from Japan and Southeast Asia to Europe. They decided to leave another 13 million for servicing the dirtiest metallurgical and chemical industries and servicing the world nuclear repository into which Russia will be converted. By the way, the current Putin State Duma has already adopted a law on turning Russia into a global nuclear repository. A large-scale road construction program for this project is being implemented in Siberia.
The "Golden Billion" does not need, neither you and me, nor our history, nor our culture. They need our natural resources and our living spaces.In the winter of 1985, when everyone realized that the next general secretary, Chernenko, was about to die, the G52 countries, led by the United States, gathered for their meeting. It was then that they decided to destroy the USSR. Divide the USSR into 2020 dwarf independent states and force these states to conflict with each other. You ask, why would this "world government" divide the USSR? According to world experts, by 1, the natural resources of Western countries will be depleted. And the only untouched pantry is 6/XNUMX of the land where we were lucky to be born and live.
Hundreds of billions of dollars were spent on the destruction of the USSR. This program was called the "Harvard Project". With these billions, the entire top of the CPSU was bought, all the princelings on the ground, all the media were bought, and with this money in 1991 they managed to do what neither Hitler nor Napoleon could do. To destroy the great Russia, which was then called the USSR.

[vezunchik]

so this is Hitler’s installation - to leave a small number of Slavs and drive them into the reservation!

[The Shrew]

vezunchik,
And what is the difference between Thatcher, and all the politicians there, from Hitler ??? As for Russia, they are twins!

[Armata]

We are not Indians. We are not bent. Iron Lady apparently did not study Otto von Bismarck

[Indigo]

All according to plan!!! - drank himself to death, the Baroness, her mother ........

[Danloff]

Quote: 755962

Destroy the great Russia, which was then called the USSR

It was not great Russia, but the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, if you do not know or for some reason could not learn or remember it in school. And the nations were one, with one single purpose.

[755962]

Quote: Danloff

It was not great Russia, but the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Great Russia which was then called the USSR
I don’t argue. Read correctly.

[revnagan]

Quote: andrey586

As a result, American analysts advise Russia to reduce its population so that survivors become better off

We can also advise them to reduce their population by 80%, so that 20% of the remaining will have enough of what the United States produces on its territory. Then they will definitely have enough of their own oil, and they will not be able to get involved with democracy in the BV and will not die American soldiers in foreign countries. Some pluses are all around. Personally, I am even ready to help in such a reduction in the population of the United States. Why? There are more cartridges, and went to mow. "And we will roll up our sleeves up to the elbows,
And we will break Chicago for firewood ... "

[Docker76]

Quote: revnagan

"And we will roll up our sleeves up to the elbows,
And we will break Chicago for firewood ... "

........ ett is accurate ......

[Yoshkin Kot]

yes, and even if someone thinks that there will be another communization, I’m in a hurry to disappoint, it’s not Putin or the Dzhugashvilli who have not built and will not build communism, because they knew. that this is just a way of robbing the population and trying to turn them into slaves happy from their slavery

[zaxooz]

OU OURA URA, STALINIZATION

[gorgoroth0]

Alas ... history does not repeat twice ... There will be no Stalinization, there will be something else, but also saving for Russia.

[wk]

Quote: gorgoroth0

There will be no Stalinization, there will be something else, but also saving for Russia.

the concept of Stalinization is multi-vector, and Stalinization adapts its decisions to each historical segment .... Ivan the Terrible - Stalinization, Peter I - Stalinization, Catherine II - Stalinization,
Alexander III Stalinization .... Andropov made the last but unsuccessful attempt .... history develops in a spiral and historical analogies are very appropriate, of course, not in mirror repetition, but taking into account time, but the essence remains one.

[Churchill]

wk,
Unfortunately, both Stalin and his era are perceived from the words of Khrushchev. And Mitka Medvedev is a vivid example of this.

[rexby63]

It would be better if they perceived "your" words, honestly:

“Russia was very lucky that when it was agonizing, it was headed by such a tough military leader. This is an outstanding personality, suitable for harsh times. A man is inexhaustible, domineering, direct in actions and even rude in his statements ... However, he retained a sense of humor, which is very important for all people and nations, and especially for big people and great nations. Stalin also impressed me with his cold-blooded wisdom, in the complete absence of any illusions. "

Speech in the British Parliament following a visit to Moscow in August 1942

[PSih2097]

And Mitka Medvedev is a vivid example of this.

Well lollipop, lately, not an example.

[Kaa]

Not the "last emperor" Stalin, but the EXTREME.

[Homer]

Kaa,
And EXTREME is responsible for all !!! Tradition.

[Kaa]

It is necessary to remember and bring to life the following words of Stalin: "WE LEFT FROM THE ADVANCED COUNTRIES by 50-100 years. We must cover this path in 10 years. Either we will do it or they will crush us."

[755962]

Quote: Kaa

Must remember and bring to life

Remember then remember .....

[Docker76]

......I agree.....

[Surg]

The main thing is that Stalinization begins earlier than the division of the country into small "principalities".

[sleepy]

The time is different and there will be no Stalinization, there will be something else.

[Enriki]

And now what are we not doing a jerk? The USSR was less than 20 years after the civil war and the collapse of the Empire could defeat Hitler, and now Russia is able to beat China or the United States, for example? Of course there are no comrades, but why?

[Patriot of Russia]

Enriki,
Yes, because Putin, well, never Stalin, first 10 years of stabilization, now Russia "is concentrating." what a jerk here? only now the country is becoming weaker every year, with every leaving Russian person.

[Ribwort]

Quote: Patriot of Russia

first 10 years stabilization

This "stabilization" takes much longer and is called more simply - recycling ...

Quote: Patriot of Russia

"focuses"

Yeah, now they will "concentrate", carry out the second promised wave of privatization and it will be possible to relax.

[philosopher]

"Putin is never Stalin" ...
Ah, well said! Plus to you unconditionally.
Then the country made an awesome (!!!) breakthrough in 10 years, and now Putin already has "that is the go-to", and the result, with those scales, cannot be compared.

[qwz_qwz]

Is Russia able to beat, for example, China or the USA? Of course there are no comrades, but why?

Because the People have been corrupted, become lazy and selfish, everyone is shaking not for the country but for his own skin, and the rest at least burn with fire.
Power is weak, a clear direction is absent, ideology is absent, no rational decisions are made, corruption goes off scale, mediocrity, slobbery and nepotism flourish.

In such conditions, you can’t even dream of a jump!

Want a jump? It will take ideology, a wise ruler-dictator and life under the most severe measures of government, repression and ban on dissent.
Otherwise, we will have what we have.

[Sherlock]

qwz_qwz,
All this is true, but do not forget that a few years ago we generally stood on all fours! Impatience is understandable, but it is not so easy to break the inertia of self-destruction launched by perestroika. Until now, many people call Russia "this country" ... Of course, tough measures against corrupt officials, and especially against separatists, are necessary, and delay in this matter of death similar, so let's hope that common sense prevails.

[loc.bejenari]

on karachki -that is-50 oil
got up from their knees - then oil is 150
tomorrow oil will again be on 50 -that again it becomes necessary to karachik

[recitatorus]

loc.bejenari,
How many times to explain to you, the dollar is not a price standard, in recent years it has depreciated 10 times !!! And this means that oil prices have nowhere to fall, they are already at a minimum!

[Nick]

Quote: loc.bejenari

tomorrow oil will again be on 50 -that again it becomes necessary to karachik

A fall in the average price for the 2012 year below 90 $ is extremely unlikely for objective reasons. This is 22,7% lower than the planned oil and gas income at 2012. Regarding the budget losses of the 2012 of the year, this is approximately 10% of the lost income. Not critical. And if you take into account the funds accumulated in the reserve funds is generally not noticeable.

[loc.bejenari]

my native hydrocarbon price consists mainly of a speculative component
they want to bring down the market - they’ll calmly do it

[11Goor11]

Loc.bejenari
The price of hydrocarbons consists mainly of a speculative component

No, the price of hydrocarbons that Russia supplies depends solely on long-term agreements
Russia does not trade in stocks on derivatives markets but in energy at solid prices
Who has the energy and dictates the price.
If you say “stock crap” again, this will only show your “awareness”

[Patriot of Russia]

loc.bejenari, well no. they’re already going to get cancer

[Ribwort]

Quote: Sherlock

Do not forget that a few years ago we generally stood on four wheels!

I do not argue...

Quote: Sherlock

the inertia of self-destruction launched by perestroika is not so simple.

It sounds beautiful, but in what units, excuse me, is this inertia measured?

Quote: Sherlock

Of course, tough measures against corrupt officials

And what is stopping you? The same cost control law? ...

Quote: Sherlock

let's hope that common sense prevails.

Let's hope together! Just tell me for how long hope to stock up?

[loc.bejenari]

To all STALINOFILam
I suggest you move to live in the last bastion of Stalinism on the globe
COUNTRY OF MORNING FRESHNESS
who are not particularly up to date - North Korea
everything is there for you
smart leader
mighty army
community care
correct ideology


the only thing is that there’s nothing to eat and the Internet isn’t what to write about wise Stalin
and so on everything else you all really like
Well WHERE WISHING TO MOVE TO NORTH KOREA
something is not visible
on a warm computer with a salary of 1000 bucks and a Ford Focus credit, it’s certainly more pleasant to dream of a great leader than to swell with hunger at another great construction site

[tixij]

and why are you so happy for us, you live in a "nezalezhnai", you drive a credit "TAVRIA", EAT FAT WITH ASSISTANCE at a manitor with a salary of 1000 hryvnia. who we need and with whom we will go next.

[loc.bejenari]

Tavria -Milok -Over 5 years old
lard - cholesterol - no one eats
and he himself would learn to write without errors - in grade 6 it’s time to do it already

[tixij]

you’ll see my dear in the mirror, wise guy. I suggest that you follow the progress of your children, unless you are of course a fan of same-sex relationships, and regarding your advice to whom and where to move to permanent residence, I repeat: (teach your wife how to cook cabbage soup), and we we’ll sort it out ourselves, (without snotty, in the literal and figurative sense). Understand your problems, of which you will have more than ours.

[loc.bejenari]

and what are our problems?
we have at least a couple of high-ranking thieves closed for 7 years
and you just hang noodles about the great leaders on your ears and in the meantime take off your last pants
what about paid education in high school
just what the leader in 39 did
here and remember about the beloved leader - how his covenants are fulfilled - payment for studying at your child’s school
dream even
the next something from the mustachioed recipes will be cooked for you - for example - work for free for soldering bread and call it GREAT STANDING FROM THE KNEES

[tixij]

well, if we have noodles on our ears, then apparently your ears were hammered with lard. about the last pants: I will speak for myself, so I can, as goodwill and based on humanitarian motives, send to the "nezalezhna" a dozen and a half, two that I do not need pants, apparently you need more if you think of ours. about education; I am more than able to pay for a decent education for my children. Further about the free rations, you should again look in the mirror, because everything that you are carrying here other than hungry delirium, I cannot explain. Py.Sy .: and mind you, an honest UKRAINIAN, gas is not us you have decent pi ....... m.

[Docker76]

Quote: qwz_qwz

Because the People have been corrupted, become lazy and selfish, everyone is shaking not for the country but for his own skin, and the rest at least burn with fire.

...... while they are satisfied with the situation - they close their eyes, are always right, and do not hide their anger towards others ....
............. + ...........

[Heroes]

But for big things, we sometimes forget about the most important thing, about Our Children. In today's world, our children and youth are the most vulnerable link. They are more likely than adults to be adversely affected. And given that they often remain face to face with this world, it is clear that it is difficult for them to understand it, which hinders their full development. I think you with appreciation appreciate my offer. Here is what I want to offer: to organize a virtual youth community (movement) on the Internet. A community that could unite our youth around itself. Using the Internet, give them the opportunity to express themselves; about their talents and exploits; about personal, creative, sports achievements; about life hobbies. It can be anything if it is good, development and good. With the help of this community, we could instill in our youth feelings of patriotism and responsibility for our great country. Show them what is good and how to strive for it. To teach them to believe in themselves, in their strengths, in their country. If this project is made interesting and popular, that is, there are opportunities to improve the Education, Culture and Health Care of the People, and not only that, large spaces will open before us to improve all the qualities of the Russian Federation. I would like this movement, which I called the Heroes of Our Time, to be similar in nature and organization to the pioneer movement.

In the project, implement the following principles:
1. Establish the Heroes of Our Time Award. To award this prize to all those who, with their heroic deed, a good example, a brave decision, have done good for people and our country.
2. Create a social website Heroes of Our Time. So that this award is always covered on the Heroes of Our Time community site. The stories of these people were recorded in a kind of board of honor, forever. So that the country could know its Heroes in person and take an example from them.
3. The ability of each participant in the movement to nominate a candidate for the Heroes of Our Time Award. Using the GNV site, discuss and vote for the candidate.
4. In a separate directory, add files (dossiers, photos, videos) of those heroes who defended, released and worked for the good of Russia. Thus, pay tribute to them for their labors, and I repeat once again the country should know and remember its heroes.
5. The ability for everyone to register in this movement (community) to take full part in the life of the project.
6. The ability to each participant in the movement to show themselves; own interests, talents and exploits; personal, creative and sporting achievements; life hobbies to other community members who could take an example from them, learn from them, communicate with them. So that a positive example can be seen and spread.
7. The creation of this community will be able to help organize and realize the potential of active and proactive people.
8. The ability to organize competitions, contests, competitions, public events thereby developing and instilling cultural, educational and sports qualities.
9. Creating a database of all specialized circles, classes, special sections, clubs of interest in the Russian Federation. With ratings and user reviews.
10. Creating online help similar to telephone assistance where you can get real-time advice or psychological assistance on issues such as alcohol and drug addiction, tobacco addiction, for young people and adults.
11. Introduction of a system of likes for voting for or against a particular case (situation, candidacy).
12. An opportunity to organize such actions as community work days, or for example such action would be possible. I read that the share of clothing imports to Russia is 95 percent. These figures shocked me. Really in Russia do not know how to sew. What would happen if through the Internet with the help of the community to hold an action: what do our children, youth want to wear? Give the task to professional designers and everyone who wants to create sketches of clothing design. To publish all the sketches received and to select the best in an open vote, and to create a collection and a brand from them. This brand will produce high-quality and inexpensive clothes. What it will give: economic growth, additional jobs, quality goods. I think few would be against wearing clothes made in their country for their citizens, and thereby help her. I think you will agree with me.
13. Through this movement, each participant has the opportunity to apply with a request, wish, proposal, idea to all participants or certain responsible people for the possibility of realizing a particular case, action.
14. In this Internet space, create the Book of the Wise. Book of the Wise what is it? This is the section in which we can send proverbs, folk wisdom, statements of famous people, winged expressions in order to collect a true collection of knowledge. Imagine a book in which all the wisdom of generations will be collected ... Everyone will discover for himself something new in this book, expand knowledge and understanding of our world. Indeed, knowledge and experience for this exist to replenish and be passed on from generation to generation. I believe by putting together all the wisdom we can enrich our worldview, as well as the worldview of future generations.

Nowadays, we are living a difficult stage of human development. Many negative factors affect us. Man as a person and society is less and less a single whole. There is no necessary connection which should unite us. It is not easy for us alone to answer today's challenges. Therefore, I think and believe this idea, the initiative can positively affect our society. You know very well what effect social networks have, how many people on our planet, countries use them. The number of users is increasing every year. All popular social. Networks do not have any positive effects, except for communication and exchange of information. What I propose is a form of advertising using this movement. Advertisements of people who have positively realized themselves in this life, who will be set as an example to everyone and from whom we can learn. The creation and construction of the social youth movement Heroes of Our Time should exist for people who want to actively participate in the development of their country. A social. the network will help them coordinate, promote and positively influence this movement.

Think like Heroes and you will become them!

[hunter]

But because the authorities now have the same list of right-wingers of the 20 years

[Owl]

He took over a country with a plow and a rifle, left a Power with nuclear weapons and an increased territory. In Russia now, any official (including VVP) has no moral responsibility for his actions before the State and the People, an official is afraid only of criminal liability for corruption or for embezzlement on a "particularly large" scale. It is necessary to unite not "against the authorities", it is necessary to unite "FOR RUSSIA", then "Victory will be ours!"

[Churchill]

Owl,
Gold words!!! But in all likelihood we have to learn again to be friends for, and not against someone!

[alexey garbuz]

Alas! Before you start to be friends "for", you will have to confront someone ...

[755962]

Quote: Eagle Owl

the official is afraid only of criminal liability for corruption or for theft on an "especially large" scale.

On this topic, you can recall, in this case, the famous statement of P.A. Stolypin "The homeland demands service for itself so sacrificially pure that the slightest thought of personal gain darkens the soul and paralyzes the work."

[The Shrew]

755962,
Here the keyword HOMELAND, and not the state, the current government or leader, but the Motherland !!! It puts a lot on your feet.

[755962]

Yes, you’re right! You can’t mix these concepts in any case. Money for officials has replaced their homeland, they think much more about them than about her.

[Armata]

Homeland and country are different concepts. Once we did not share it, but now we are writing to say a word against NATO. And it turns out they are afraid of us and do not run over, and we, as children, say that we are weaker than them, I'm thinner,
(disgusting).

[Ribwort]

Quote: Eagle Owl

It is necessary to unite not "against the authorities", it is necessary to unite "FOR RUSSIA"

More specifically, please. Here "against the authorities" - this is quite specific for me. This is against the same thieving officials, corrupt officials, "effective managers", those who appoint them ... Against the Duma deputies, who have been unable to pass laws tightening control over officials and responsibility for the above. And also for pedophilia, for example ... (But with the rallies, they worked as quickly, bourgeois singers!) This is simple and clear to me. And for me, "against the government" = "for Russia." What do you mean by this? Curious...

[valerei]

Owl, it is clear: he said and that's it! So? Even Lenin built a party and a revolution with German money and then worked it out. And now? Who will give? Prokhorov? Won the Communist Party of the Russian Federation which base it inherited, like Sberbank, there was a party cell in every hole, and how does it end? Pshikom. Lenin said that any idea is worth anything only when it takes over the masses. The overwhelming majority of Russians began to deeply spit on Russia. A new generation of lumpen has grown, with roots dating back to the early 90s. Yes, and strained with the leaders: "There are few real violent - that is, there are no leaders."

[Docker76]

Quote: Eagle Owl

(including GDP) there is no moral RESPONSIBILITY

.... how can one evaluate moral qualities? ........................
.........least ; know personally, and by his deeds .....
.... and GDP is our Stalin .......

[sergo0000]

The author has very correct thoughts! Article plus is unambiguous. Shared with friends on the Internet!

[Oleg0705]

There is no other way to keep Russia within its current limits, otherwise they will crush us.

[Oleg0705]

Why do people come to Stalin? Because they look at the current flagrant inequality, the suffering of millions and the impunity of the units that rob them, and ask the question: “Would this be possible under Stalin?”

[Ribwort]

Quote: Oleg0705

Because they look at the current glaring inequality, the suffering of millions and the impunity of the units that rob them

And all this under the "sensitive guidance" of United Russia and the permanent commander. For stability, comrades!

[wk]

Quote: Oleg0705

There is no other way to keep Russia within its current limits, otherwise they will crush us.

Russia either to revive the Empire of the XNUMXrd millennium - or to perish forever, such a choice has been facing Russia since the time of Ivan the Terrible and now for Russia again "the moment of truth".

[Oleg0705]

Quote: wk

such a choice confronts Russia

at last the misconceptions in which the country abode

[Churchill]

Oleg0705,

Quote: Oleg0705

at last the misconceptions in which the country abode

10-15 years ago they didn’t even think about it! So the trend is on the face! So we crawl out of the swamp.

[qwz_qwz]

at last the misconceptions in which the country abode

So far, only a few ...

[alexdol]

wk(1)
Russia either to revive the Empire of the III millennium - or to forever perish,

Along with the death of RUSSIA, the whole WORLD will come to an end, and it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for us to allow this!

[Alf]

The whole world is absolutely indifferent to me, for me the main goal is MY COUNTRY, MY RUSSIA. When will we, Russians, begin to understand that our goal is to keep and raise the country, and not worry about the survival of the golden billion.

[qwz_qwz]

Russia either to revive the Empire of the III millennium - or permanently disappear

So far, everything has gone to the second ... when the people, for the most part, finally understand what is happening, it will be too late ...

[Ribwort]

Quote: qwz_qwz

when the people, for the most part, finally understand what is happening - it will be too late

For the most part, people value welfare by the number of increased imported auto-trash on the roads, and the country's greatness by the amount of gas and oil sold. I'm afraid it won’t be late, it is ALREADY late.

[philosopher]

Let me argue with you. The people understand, vote, hope. But such "individuals" come to power, one more original than the other (I mean Ukraine, I have no right to speak for Russia).
Each time it turns out exactly according to Chernomyrdin: "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
Most of all I envy Belarus. Slowly, with a creak, with problems, but without reels, without throws, without tricks, but they go in the same direction. So, the whole thing is still in a strong person who knows what should be done in the interests of his country. Maybe Russia should learn from the Old Man.
(I am silent about us - we are completely in ... Ukraine).

[755962]

Quote: wk

Russia has made such a choice since the time of Ivan the Terrible

Russia is a country that can only be ruled by a monarch. Then the question is: When can a country be united? They thought the market would solve all the problems, but they made a mistake. This in the West is an effective owner. He almost never existed in Russia. Only the tsar knew how to do this under the monarchy or the secretary general under the Soviet regime.

[Ribwort]

Quote: 755962

They thought the market would solve all the problems, but they were mistaken.

Here's how to convey it to our president. And then he, it seems, is not in the know. The second wave of privatization is going to start ... And even promises that she will be honest this time. Al did not hear?

[Nick]

Quote: Ribwort

The second wave of privatization is going to start ... And even promises that she will be honest this time. Al did not hear?

Why are you scaring everyone, the sale of state-owned assets is a routine thing, just like the purchase of assets of private companies by the state. This happens continuously in the world. The question of economic feasibility ... Remember the history of the American Chrysler in the 80s. Then the state bought out a large block of shares from the company for a billion THEN US dollars in order to save about 500 thousand jobs created in the economy by this company, and save on payments to the unemployed in the event of bankruptcy. When things went well in Chrysler, Chrysler bought this package from the state, but for a large sum. Here, as they say, the US government managed to "kill three birds with one stone at once," Save a large taxpayer, prevent an increase in unemployment, and thereby save the budget from additional. the cost of paying benefits to the unemployed, as well as making money on the rise in share prices.

The main thing is to maintain the state’s presence in the basic sectors, natural monopolies, the defense industry ...

[Homer]

On the account of the new privatization: the situation on the stock market is not the same, due to lower quotes, stocks are now 20-30 percent cheaper, which means selling for nothing, the budget will lose billions. You need to wait time, the market will win back the losses.

[Alf]

Yeah, then the tandem shouts that it is necessary to reduce the presence of the state in the basic sectors, natural monopolies, the military-industrial complex to a minimum.

[hunter]

Yes, but not for our state managers who sell an hour watch for a million, they buy it from him for a billion (conditionally) CORRUPTION my friend.

[Yves762]

Article minus: it is not necessary to speak so "subtly" for "father to the kingdom" and for the fact that he is one "d'Artagnan" !!!

[Sherlock]

Yves762,
Yes dad and so already in the kingdom !!! The credit of trust is huge, so that the liberals do not screech there. It's time for him to use the power!

[apro]

The article is interesting. The analogies are understandable, but the return of the Stalinist system is not possible - there is no connecting idea for a ready-made project of actions and for people capable of fulfilling the aspirations of people. Every year, we become a disconnected level of education that falls apart and breaks apart like a layer cake. This is because the communist IV Stalin could rip out youth from the quagmire to give the country the right education to be promoted to leadership positions to give an opportunity to prove itself to your people to feel like your country needs you and earn honestly. as well as push someone in and save all the severity. Now the country is not able to do anything like our new installations they don’t let it do today the power of money and personal well-being will not allow Russia to change, time will pass and nothing will need to be changed

[Oleg the Great]

The article is correct. Only now the onset of this time is not expected. GDP will not be able to crank this. Here you need another person.

[wk]

Oleg the Great,

Quote: Oleg the Great

Here you need another person.

is the easiest way to say - do you have any suggestions? .... a modern "Stalinist" person cannot be born - he must grow up in society, in struggle.

[Oleg the Great]

Of course have. It's me.

[El13]

You said you needed "another person", what have you got to do with it?

[Nick]

Quote: Oleg the Great

Of course have. It's me.

One thing is certain, Oleg, that you lack modesty, you certainly don’t suffer ... It’s more difficult to say about your potential as a statesman ....

[Homer]

Nick,
Apparently, in order to determine who is who in Russia, it is necessary to expel everyone without exception through the bureaucracy! I don’t think that many will refuse. Attempt is not torture! ..

[Ribwort]

Quote: wk

a modern "Stalinist" person cannot be born - he must grow up in society, in struggle.

Yeah! And, as soon as he begins to fight, he will immediately be branded as a liberalist, orangery and henchman of the State Department. And therefore - forget about Stalin. Chubais, Fursenki, Mutko and Serdyukovs, apparently, are more suitable for us. The commander knows better ...

[Rebus]

Quote: Oleg the Great

Here you need another person.

Not here another person in the beginning, a unifying thing is needed (national, state, you can call it whatever you like) idea. I think, at least put someone on the throne, but if there is no core (idea) in the state, the state will be amorphous like an amoeba and not viable. State building depends on the ruler only secondarily ...
A article +

[Oleg the Great]

Well no. From the ruler depends only in the first place. And there is an example of such insignificant rulers. V. Shuisky, Nicholas II, Gorbachev. All of them, in view of their insignificance, precisely as rulers, brought the country to turmoil, disruption and other things.

[Rebus]

Quote: Oleg the Great

V. Shuisky, Nicholas II, Gorbachev. All of them, in view of their insignificance, precisely as rulers, brought the country to turmoil, disruption and other things.

Note all of the above "rulers" appeared during the period of turmoil and disunity of the people, they, like a lens, focused this disunity and finished off their country.

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: Rebus

Note all of the above "rulers" appeared during the period of turmoil and disunity of the people, they, like a lens, focused this disunity and finished off their country.

What trouble was under Alexander III, which was replaced by Nicholas?

[Rebus]

Quote: Oleg the Great

What trouble was under Alexander III

General A.F. Rediger (Minister of War in 1905-1909; during the reign of Alexander III served in the central apparatus of the Ministry) in his memoirs (1917-1918) wrote about personnel policy in the military department of that time: “Throughout the reign of Emperor Alexander III, the military Vannovsky was the minister, and during all this time a terrible stagnation reigned in the military department. Whose fault it was, whether the sovereign himself or Vannovsky, I do not know, but the consequences of this stagnation were terrible. The incapable and decrepit people were not fired, appointments went in seniority, capable people did not advance, but moved along the line, lost interest in service, initiative and energy, and when they got to senior positions, they already differed little from the surrounding mass of mediocrity. This awkward system also explains the terrible composition of the leaders, both towards the end of the reign of Alexander III, and later, during the Japanese War! ”

The troubles begin when, as Lenin said, the Tops (leadership) do not want to change anything, but the lower classes cannot ...
But in general (my personal opinion) the beginning of the collapse of the empire began with the murder of Paul l ...

[SlavaP]

probably, with the subsequent cowardice of Alexander 1, who could not soak a handful of Masons and pulled incognito to Siberia ..

[Armata]

Quote: Rebus

they don’t want to change anything, but the lower classes cannot ...

Actually, this is Marx's "Capital", but still "+"
"

[Rebus]

Quote: Steam Train

Actually, this is Marx's "Capital", but still "+"

I'm sorry, but I read only "Capital" from Marx, and I remember this expression from the school curriculum ...........

[Rebus]

Perhaps Lenin repeated

[frolovvgg]

Yeltsin still forgot to name ...

[Fox 070]

Quote: Rebus

State building depends on the ruler only secondarily ...

I do not think that the head of state can play a secondary role! (Unless, of course, you mean the shadow leadership.) The vector of domestic and foreign policy, the determination of priority areas for the development and construction of the state, etc. depend on it. etc.
It was such a leader I. Stalin! It was under him that the very idea (the fight against illiteracy and poverty, the strengthening and mass construction of industrial enterprises) was formulated, which led our country to the number of industrialized states.
Today there is no need to invent anything new. You just need to turn back and take a closer look at the political heritage that Joseph Vissarionovich left us.

[Rebus]

Quote: Fox 070

I do not think that the head of state can play a secondary role!

Perhaps I did not express myself well, I meant that if the people were not united by a common ideology, aspiration, etc., as it was in the USSR, then Stalin would have been a parish priest (I am exaggerating, of course). The people create their rulers, the people in our history twice elected monarchical dynasties (Rurikovich, Romanov), the people created the USSR. And now it’s like Nekrasov’s "When the master comes, the master will judge us." You need to change the state from yourself ...
PS We didn’t have rulers who were so right in prioritizing as Stalin.

[Fox 070]

Quote: Rebus

We did not have rulers who were able to set priorities so correctly as Stalin.

Do not subtract, not add.

Quote: Rebus

Change the state with yourself ....

And this is true. We must kill the slave of the Western way of life and liberal freedoms in ourselves and finally remember that each of us is a citizen of our country and is responsible for its safety before our children.

[SlavaP]

here (in the west) freedom is also a bit

[qwz_qwz]

Quote: Rebus

It is not another person’s business, in the beginning we need a unifying (national, state, you can call it whatever) idea.

It is in another person ... Putin is a resuscitator, a transitional ruler, but to go further you need an ideological ruler with powerful charisma, capable of infecting the whole country with his idea.

[Deniska999]

Still, Stalin was a great Russian statesman of the XNUMXth century. "Stalin accepted Russia with a plow, but left with an atomic bomb." Churchill. The article is good.

[zmerus]

Churchill did not say this, it goes without saying ....

[Fox 070]

Quote: zmerus

Churchill didn’t say such

Here is an excerpt from the speech of W. Churchill, dedicated to the 80th anniversary of I. Stalin.

[zmerus]

Actually, it's nothing surprising that the "gentlemen Stalinists" and other communists pissed away on all conceivable fronts, including the ideological one, and were leaked into the dustbin of history, in fact. For the simple calculation of the gushing verbiage of these gentlemen has as its target outlook only complete idiots who are not burdened with possession of not only elementary questions of world history, but also the history of their own country.

http://actualhistory.ru/soha_i_bomba
Churchill did not say this, my statement is valid.

I’ll make a reservation right away that you should not throw yourself in the best traditions of trolling on the personality of Igor Kurtukov; because his authority and reputation in the history of the 20th century is worth a couple of orders of magnitude more than that of all those "experts".

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: zmerus

I’ll make a reservation right away that you should not throw yourself in the best traditions of trolling on the personality of Igor Kurtukov; because his authority and reputation in the history of the 20th century is worth a couple of orders of magnitude more than that of all those "experts".

And who is the measure of authority? And how is authority measured?

[Alexei]

Quote: Oleg the Great

And who is the measure of authority? And how is authority measured?

It looks like it is measured by "ZMERUS" s.

[Sitev]

Quote: zmerus

that "gentlemen Stalinists" and other communists fucked up

Just true Stalinists, not Communists, those whom you call Communists, either Trotskyists, or they are simply mistaken!

[Ilyich]

Quote: zmerus

Actually, it's nothing surprising that the "gentlemen Stalinists" and other communists pissed away on all conceivable fronts, including the ideological one, and were leaked into the dustbin of history, in fact. For the simple calculation of the gushing verbiage of these gentlemen has as its target outlook only complete idiots who are not burdened with possession of not only elementary questions of world history, but also the history of their own country.

Mom darling! How much bile! It’s even funny ...
Such an amount of poison in the statement of our American "friend" suggests that a leader of Stalin's level will be a concrete beam in the ass of democracy

Quote: zmerus

For the simple calculation of the gushing verbiage of these gentlemen has only complete idiots as its target outlet

About Cienan and Fox News. bull's-eye

[tixij]

God forgive me for being completely insignificant and verbiage, open your mouth only for its intended purpose (when you don’t ....... t), and you don’t need to drive the air, it stinks.

[Passing]

zmerus, I’ll support you, this is a myth, this phrase from a biography book of Stalin written by a Western author, I don’t remember his name.
The same myth as Lenin's phrase that "any cook can run the state" (in fact, Lenin was talking about the need to educate a cook), the same myth as Stalin's phrase about "useful idiots" (in fact, this phrase from an American newspaper about another Latin dictator).

[vpm]

The author of this quote is apparently still Isaac Deutscher, author of the biographies of Trotsky and Stalin. However, this does not negate Churchill's rather positive reviews of Stalin during and even after the war.

[rexby63]

Charles de Gaulle (France)

“Stalin had a tremendous authority, and not only in Russia. He knew how to“ tame ”his enemies, not to panic at losing and not to enjoy victories. And he had more victories than defeats.

Stalinist Russia is not the former Russia that perished along with the monarchy. But a Stalinist state without successors worthy of Stalin is doomed ...

DE GOLL Sharl. War memoirs. Prince II. M., 1960, p. 235—236, 239, 430

Anthony Eden (UK)

“Stalin initially impressed me with his talent, and my opinion did not change. His personality spoke for itself, and its assessment did not require exaggeration. He had good natural manners, apparently of Georgian origin. I know that he was ruthless, but I respect his mind and even treat him with sympathy, the origins of which I could not fully explain to myself. Probably, this was a consequence of Stalin's pragmatism. It was quickly forgotten that you were talking with a party leader ... I always met an interesting interlocutor in him , gloomy and strict, which was often required by the discussed issues. I did not know a person who would have had such control at meetings. Stalin was well aware of all his issues, prudent and prompt ... Behind all this, undoubtedly, there was a force "
The Eden Memoirs. Facing the Dictatiors. London, 1962, p. 153

.Zbigniew Brzezinski (USA)

“Stalin was equally successful outside the country in his ability to justify his actions and seek their approval. For a long time, many Western commentators were more inclined - with only partly different terminology - to praise him for the industrialization of Russia, rather than condemn him for terror. Thus, the Stalinist era was largely interpreted as an era of great social change, rapid dynamics, the transition from an agricultural economy to an industrial one. And in a sense this is true. Under Stalin, the Soviet Union did become a great industrial power. Indeed, there was an outflow of its population from the villages. The centralized socialist system was fully rebuilt, and the Soviet economy had a relatively high growth rate. According to official Soviet statistics, national income quadrupled in the first five-year plans, increasing by almost 15 percent annually. the largest masses of people - in thirteen years the number of urban residents has doubled. From 1928 to 1940, the annual production of electricity increased from 5 billion kilowatts to 48,3 billion, steel production - from 4,3 million tons to 18,3 million; the production of machine tools increased from 2 thousand to 58400 per year; cars began to be produced not 8 thousand a year, but 145 thousand. On the eve of the war, industry accounted for 84,7 percent of the entire Soviet economy. Even if these figures are exaggerated by official statistics, the fact that the Soviet economy has achieved great success cannot be denied. "

Brzezinski Z. Great failure. The birth and death of communism in the twentieth century.

Also not particularly written by friends. However, they, explicit enemies, write with respect and great. Who are you? The answer is just a mongrel

[Armata]

If you so admire De Golem, take an interest after which he removed the NATO headquarters from Paris.

[rexby63]

I do not admire. In addition to his statement, I quoted the words of E. Iden and Z. Brzezinski

[Odinplys]

zmerus (4) US Yesterday, 10:55 ↑ ↓ = Churchill didn’t say this, it goes without saying .... =

[patriot2]

There are leaders of the nation — creators, and there are destroyers.
But, there are man-haters, and there are man-lovers and not always the creator is a man-lover - hence the many victims. Are there many rulers in the History of Russia - philanthropists who built Russia without shedding the blood of their people? There are no such. There are inert and unsuccessful rulers in modern history, too, everyone knows the names. Stalin created the Empire on blood - it fell apart. It is impossible to consolidate society on fear. But other progressive guidelines should be encouraged to bring people together to create a powerful progressive state - Great Russia.

[Shuriken]

Yes zadolbali already this "on fear"! Did you live then? We sang Khrushchev-Solzhenitsyn songs for decades, this is the result! Yes, there was fear, but who? The leaders, that if you screw up, they will come for you! Well, put this vector for today, is such a noose for a current official ?? And the people saw the impulse, felt on themselves how the standard of living was growing from year to year, and saw who was behind it, who gave the NATIONAL IDEA (which is not present now) - to revive from the ruins and catch up with the advanced countries in terms of living standards without becoming their slave and raw material appendage !! This idea united people, and not because of fear of Stalin they died, but did not surrender in the Second World War, but out of hatred for the enemy who came to take away the idea and faith in a bright tomorrow, which, I repeat, came before the eyes of that generation! And fear ... Listen to what they want now, without exception, for a Russian official-thief, a corrupt cop and a corrupt politician! That's it ...

[khoma nickson]

The trouble was that they came for those who were not stretched, the flywheel spun to such an extent that it had already acquired its own dynamics and scope. Well, what did Korolev and Rokossovsky, Vavilov and Vannikov do? About 5 million people surrendered to WWII - there was nowhere to go.

[Sitev]

patriot2 what are you patriotif you don’t even understand the story!

[darkman70]

The article is good .. But the reasons for the appearance of a leader of the Stalin level are actually much more. The main thing in my opinion is that, people now want to see at the head of state a statesman-patriot, a man-builder of a great state, able to firmly establish order in the country and lead the country into the future, capable of giving the Russian people a new idea on the basis of justice and brotherhood.
Such a leader must necessarily appear. If this does not happen, then the future of Russia as a single and strong state is a big question.

[qwz_qwz]

Quote: darkman70

Such a leader must necessarily appear. If this does not happen, then the future of Russia as a single and strong state is a big question.

Perfect is true! such a leader is needed as air ... it's time to raise the country! It's time to put the idea into a moldy society!

[TekhnarMAF]

I hope that there will be a leader comparable to Stalin who will lift the state off its knees! I am by no means a Stalinist, but the current spontaneity doesn’t suit me (personally)! For five centuries they built the Russian empire (there were any), but during this time, never a country (sorry the country, this is the territory), the state was not betrayed or destroyed (like the current perestroika). Based on current realities, Stalin acted the only way. Yes, many innocent people died (?), but a huge state, empire, rose from its knees and proved its worth (industrialization, one of the leading places in the world, after a complete collapse into a civilian one, victory in the Second World War with fascism, which turned Europe into a (civilized) cancer, economic recovery after a deadly war, But now the situation is by no means better than after the war! Will there be a leader who can (even if rigidly) bring the state into a comprehensible state commensurate with such an immensely vast and vastly rich country !?

[8 company]

The article is pure 100% nonsense. Stalinism is a system for oppressing the people, one of the most cruel in human history. Stalinism encouraged and awakened the worst features in people: suspicion, denunciation, a tendency to seize other people's property, to grave crimes against humanity. What are only the decisions of the governing bodies on dispossession, mass unreasonable executions of entire sections of society, permission to mass torture! Stalinism is periodic hunger and constant malnutrition for the bulk of the people, the absence of basic goods and services, constant wars. Under Stalinism, the economy is militarized and almost all of its resources go to the military industry. Stalinism is a constant massive lie about an allegedly happy life, that universal prosperity is about to come; that there are enemies around; that without a brilliant leader all will disappear, fall somewhere in tartarara. The desire of modern Stalinists to justify these heinous crimes against their own people is simply disgusting, This is a real Russophobia. However, this propaganda of Stalinism is practically harmless. The Stalinists themselves will not want to exchange the present prosperous and well-fed life for mass terror, in which they will first of all report, torture and destroy each other, as was the case under Stalin, when some revolutionaries carefully destroyed others. Has anyone seen in our time a mass action of the Stalinists: a demonstration, a strike, etc.? Has anyone seen in our time on the street a man with the Stalin badge or a car with his portrait? Me not. Modern Stalinism is a virtual zilch, chatter and a traditional demagogic lie.

[Oleg the Great]

Brad is your comment. And Stalin's "villainies" have been exaggerated by the present democrats. The Katyn case fell apart. But it was attributed to Stalin.

[Bison]

Some brains are falling apart. The crimes of the mustachioed cannot be smeared with anything. Tortured millions of their citizens. Dzhugashvili - it is necessary to dig out of the grave and what remains to drown in shit. He, with all the popolises, is the executioner of his people.

[wk]

Quote: Company 8

The article is pure 100% nonsense.

pure "handshake" nonsense you carry .... enough, have heard enough of "svanids", "fedotovs", "alekseevs" ....

Quote: Company 8

Stalinism is a constant massive lie about an allegedly happy life, that universal prosperity is about to come;

constant massive lies come from channels like "rain", "rent TV", "NTV", radio stations "Kommersant" and "ear of Moscow" from the pages of the "new newspaper" - just vomit pours on Russia.

Quote: Company 8

This is a real Russophobia.

the real Russophobia comes from the mouth of the announcers of these false media

Quote: Company 8

with the icon of Stalin or a car with his portrait?

Yes, even buses, and soon we will build trains, planes, icebreakers, aircraft carriers
and the "handshake" must either accept the will of their people - or throw them out of the country until the "Butovo training ground" works ..... or it is possible without a training ground - the road to Sakhalin must be built!

[TekhnarMAF]

Yes, and the flooded tunnel needs to be completed (to Sakhalin from the mainland).

[8 company]

Quote: wk

and the "handshake" must either accept the will of their people

Laughed: "people"!
This "people" has not even been able to create a party of the Stalinist type, miserable talkers

[Volkhov]

For a party of the Stalinist type, Stalin is needed, and the talkers want him, but they cannot replace him.

[recitatorus]

You clearly re-read the Khrushchev historians! If you take a word to believe these puffed academicians can easily find yourself in a stupid situation. Try to find the source at least once, find it yourself, and not use other people's tips, and it will quickly begin to become clear that the facts are at least distorted, and often simply sucked out ! Such a craft is an official story!

[Sitev]

Quote: Company 8

This "people", even a party of the Stalinist type, still cannot create

Do not worry, have already registered

[Odinplys]

Quote: Company 8

Laughed: "people"! laughing
This "people" has not even been able to create a party of the Stalinist type, miserable talkers

Whom do you personally support from current politicians .....?

[Bison]

In which country? Specify

[Bison]

In Germany, Natsik is forbidden (I didn’t see anyone there with a portrait of a mustachioed Fuhrer), and in Russia these lovers of a mustached joe must be crushed. It will be so.

[tixij]

You were not put on the choir in the company, you are kind of "offended" at the people, but we carry water to the offended.

[khoma nickson]

Why shouldn't the Stalinists build their own "Park of the Stalinist Period" and live there in accordance with their ideals: a year of a collective farm, a year of a factory, interrogation by the NKVD with a third degree addiction, shooting or gulag. And a year = two and they could not be seen, not heard. And then you gotta see - they thought about themselves: they say the people, and all the others - in Butovo. How not to get there ourselves!

[Ruslan]

Quote: Company 8

Stalinism is a system for oppressing the people

HERE A SYSTEM FOR DEPRESSION OF PEOPLE
Before the weekend, my LJ friend tslongin in the process of discussing the "Big Game" gave me a rather interesting thought. I sucked it from different angles and for a long time doubted whether it would be worth describing such an option. He is controversial and more than surprising. However, there are facts that speak, if not in his favor, then, at least, indicating his likelihood. And therefore, nevertheless, not being sure of its viability and adequacy, I decided to describe it.
So, as they say, do not judge strictly. Well, the question, as many have understood from the term "Big Game", will be about possible geopolitical alliances before the final stage of the Game.
I’ll immediately make a reservation that at this level of relations and opposing forces and interests, the concept of friends and allies is not and cannot be. Arrangements and alliances arise and collapse every moment, reacting to any changes in the world configuration of the Forces. Therefore, for some time even the most unlikely at first glance unions are possible. Such as between the Satanists Rockefellers and the Vatican. What can you do when you face the threat of death? Therefore, I ask you to consider the following as nothing more than an assumption.
When the strategic alliance between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds was announced not so long ago, many different, often diametrically opposed, assumptions were made. In order to make the future clearer, I will list them briefly.
My assumption was that both Players (Rockefellers and Rothschilds) faced with a situation of such strong opposition to their plans that they came to understand the gradual loss of control over the situation, acting alone, and even actively conflicting with each other. Unification allows them to strengthen and balance their position in the Big Game.
An alternative opinion was expressed by Andrei Devyatov in the article “Ears of Essence and the Second Wave of the Crisis”. In it, the author relates the goals of the alliance of two clans to the need for consolidation in the fight against the Vatican.
Among other interesting analytical materials on this subject, I would single out the article [info] martinis09 “Old Satanist Rockefeller began the drain of assets to the global kagal”.
And the article by V.B. Pavlenko: “The Great Game” of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers - in the light and in the shadow ”
Both recent articles point out that the Rockefellers were forced to enter into this deal, which means recognizing the weaknesses of their own positions and the inability to continue the “Game” alone. Although Pavlenko points out the fact that even the formation of the Forced Alliance, the Rockefellers do not consider as surrender and, having lost on the financial front, continue counterplay on the political.
Considering that none of the authors (including myself) can get into the Heads of the Players, and obviously does not have the entirety of the information, I venture to assume that a certain proportion of the Truth may be contained in all articles.
From what I did not indicate in my article, two new factors must be distinguished: the Rockefeller weakness and the Vatican. Let's start with the second one.
The Vatican was originally an organic part of the SION project. The way I understand the beginning of this process and the resulting conflict that led to a split, I described in my series “The Virtual History of Civilization”. Now for us the main thing in this is that the Vatican still exists, still has at least broad autonomy within the framework of the project, or even went beyond its framework. In addition, the Vatican has sufficient geopolitical influence and numerous tools to confirm this influence. The Vatican's World Intelligence Network forms the Jesuit Order, officially represented in 112 countries. In the face of the Vatican Bank, the latter has a virtually independent financial system that can function almost around the world as an alternative to the banking system created by the Rothschilds and other “senior” clans of the project. It is no coincidence that recently there have been many scandals surrounding the Bank of the Vatican related to money laundering, and recently its Head was forced to leave his post. A competitor must be crushed.
We formulate briefly the main directions of the conflict along the Rothschilds line (we remember that by this name we mean not the family, but the entire clan of “bankers” headed by them) - the Vatican:
The Vatican came out of obedience at the moment of consent to the rout of the Templars, who at that time was responsible for the functioning of the financial system of the project;
The Rothschilds removed Britain and part of Europe from the Vatican, creating an alternative to Catholicism Protestantism, and then significantly limiting the power of the Vatican in the United States.
The Rothschilds claim world domination (victory in the Great Game), which is not possible as long as the Vatican maintains its geopolitical influence. And the influence of the Vatican extends far further than opponents would like. This is practically a large part of Europe, this is Mexico and all of Latin America, it is part of Asia.
The Rothschilds claim full control of both the current and future (post-apocalyptic) financial systems. To do this, they control almost all cross-border financial transfers in the banking sector, they control most of the world's gold reserves, they control the process of issuing convertible currencies, they control the debt market. However, the Vatican in its present form, due to the extensive global network of “parishes”, is able to make the Rothschilds a worthy alternative. Moreover, in the event of a collapse of the modern "virtual" system and a return to the gold standard, it is the Vatican that is able to seize leadership. To date, a more extensive network that can provide reception and distribution of gold for settlements and at the same time guarantee reliability and confidentiality simply does not exist. And will not exist for a long time. And the Vatican itself, with all the secrecy of information, has one of the most significant gold reserves in the world.
With all the power of modern propaganda, which for the second half of the 20th and beginning of the 21st century managed to turn many proud and independent peoples into an atomized immoral religion, it still remains one of the main ideological tools for influencing people. And one word on a Sunday sermon often means a lot more than a long talk show on TV. And therefore, for a complete zombie of the population, there should not be any third-party, especially such serious methods of influencing the consciousness of people.
Perhaps this is not all motives, and there are many more hidden from the eyes of an outside observer. However, the above is more than enough to understand that "Bolivar will not stand the two." In addition, one must take into account the fact that the time allotted for the functioning of the dying system, built around the dominance of the dollar and US military power, is rapidly melting. And the November US elections with extremely low Obama’s chances of re-election are able to completely take away from the “bankers” a significant share of the influence on the world situation. In the event of loss of power in the United States, they have only one type of resource left - gold, which without power cover, is extremely unreliable cards for trading in such a serious game. Therefore, over the past few months, the Vatican has been under tremendous pressure through all possible channels. The immediate goal of the “bankers" is to force the Pope to abdicate and try to promote his protege to the throne.



Is it any wonder that the (possibly) cornered Rockefeller clan is trying to find an ally in the Vatican?



Moreover, such an alliance is beneficial to the Vatican as well. The Vatican essentially has one serious weakness on the verge of total vulnerability. This is a vertically built pyramid with one world center. The destruction (in the physical sense) of this center will make the whole system hardly capable of functioning. At least for a long time.



In this regard, the Rockefellers, who largely control the US power structures, are quite capable of offering the Vatican what it needs - power protection.



Unfortunately, since the information, and all the more reliable, the minimum breaks out, it is very difficult for us to assess the strength of the alleged Rockefeller-Vatican alliance. It is only known that Kissinger, who is one of the main Rockefeller strategists since late 2006, has been an adviser to the Pope, and in January he visited Moscow as his personal envoy.

[Ruslan]

As for the union of Russia and the Rockefellers, I have already written about this repeatedly. The main reasons are that in order to stimulate development and overcome the protracted crisis, both Russia and the United States need the same thing. The presence of a worthy respected enemy, which both countries were in the era of the USSR. An enemy with whom you can maintain a strictly verified degree of tension in the relationship without crossing a specific line. Moreover, the third pole - China, which was absent as such 20-30 years ago, is quite capable of giving the entire construction of the world order the necessary stability. And most importantly, what brings our positions closer is that nobody needs uncontrollable chaos.
Russia emphasized its choice in favor of an alliance with the Rockefellers in several areas at once:
The organization of a joint venture Rosneft - Exxon, moreover, after a long stage of negotiations with the Rothschild BP. An important feature of this project is the fact that in exchange for Rockefeller access to our Northern shelf, Rosneft receives shares in Rockefeller projects in North America. That is, we have the right to talk about the strategic and long-term nature of the alliance.
Demonstrative Putin's inattention to the current administration in the United States. This inattention in almost plain text suggests that Putin does NOT see Obama as his long-term opposing partner.
Systematic reduction of Russian financial investments in US securities.

But besides the connection between Russia and the Rockefellers, there is a direct connection between Russia and the Vatican. Firstly, the fact already mentioned above speaks for this, that Kissinger arrived in Russia in January not just like that, but as a personal envoy of the Pope. Secondly, almost immediately after this visit, the Russian special services received information that a large sum of money had arrived from abroad (and from London) to pay for the “order” to the Russian Orthodox Church. The “order” itself was actively executed in the spring for two months. We were all witnesses to this.

So, “old Henry” could have brought such an important thing with him, that immediately after that a blow was required on the Russian Orthodox Church. I’m far from thinking of considering our Patriarch a saint worthy of canonization, however, a lot of things are done by his efforts that are beneficial for the Church and strengthening its position in the world. Unification with the Russian Church Abroad, partial overcoming of the church schism in Ukraine, negotiations on rapprochement of the positions of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Old Believer Church, should also result in unification - all this is intended to make the Russian Orthodox Church an influential force not only in Russia or in the territory of the former USSR, but throughout the world. For example, the influence of the Russian Church Abroad is noticeable in Europe and the United States. Many parishes of the Old Believers Church are located in South America. The unification of the Churches makes the Russian Orthodox Church a force of geopolitical proportions, although not comparable to the Vatican, but almost proportional. And the recent decision on the sister status of the Catholic and Protestant Churches with the possibility of non-rite of passage to convert from them to Orthodoxy, and for ministers even with the preservation of the rank, it is generally difficult to overestimate.

Moreover, this decision hits primarily Protestantism. Not so long ago, the Protestant Hierarchs, under the pressure of “bankers,” were forced to make a number of decisions that caused grumbling and indignation among believers and still preserving the sanity and moral foundation of people. This is a ban on the public wearing of the cross, as a symbol of Faith, it is the legalization of homosexual marriages. All this is superimposed on completely idiotic laws banning the names “father” and “mother”. As a result of the decision made by the Russian Orthodox Church, the conversion of believers to Orthodoxy has already begun. The Vatican receives its part of the flock from Protestantism. In fact, the union of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Vatican can be partially explained by this. But here a natural question arises. All, for example, is true, but why the Vatican of the Russian Orthodox Church? What can she bring with her such that the Vatican does not have on its own?

Here we are forced to somewhat deviate into mysticism. It is known that the Vatican has always been very attentive to various prophecies and predictions. In particular, Fatima's prophecies made in 1917 are world famous. In the town of Fatima (Spain), the Three Image of the Virgin Mary appeared to three children, predicting the revival and strengthening of the Faith through Russia:

Through transformed Russia, dedicated to the holy, perforated Heart of the Mother of God, and through it to the Lord; through Russia - the power of peace and heavenly love, established by the power of the Life-giving Cross that shone from the Solovetsky Mountain, where the great sacrifice of the holy martyrs was made for the salvation of Holy Russia and the whole world - humanity will turn to our Lord Jesus Christ, the great victory over the Babylonian harlot and apocalyptic red dragon. In the world transformed by the grace of the Cross, on the New Earth and the New Heaven, the Lord and His Sovereign Mother, Queen of heaven and earth, will be the first to rule the great cathedral of all the saints who have shone from ages.



But about Rome, the prophecy (especially in its third part, which had been hidden in secret by the Vatican for a long time) said much more gloomily:



The Roman church will be destroyed. Cardinals will rise to cardinals, and bishops to bishops. Satan will come into them, and there will be great changes in Rome. The church will be covered in darkness, and the world will tremble with fear. On the ruins of the Roman Church there will be a spiritual church that will exist until the end of the world.



I don’t know about you, but for me it’s more than a serious reason for the Vatican to seek the preservation of the Church through an alliance with Russia. What the Vatican has been doing for the past 20 years. He does it gently, without insisting on anything, being satisfied with the contacts that Moscow offers, periodically returning Orthodox shrines that were previously in the Vatican. And, nevertheless, in every possible way pedaling the contacts and rapprochement of the Churches.



In principle, this is not surprising. In a world ready to split into parts, in which the Antichrist is about to triumph, the desire of all the forces opposing this to unite is quite natural. By the way, in this regard, I recommend to pay attention to the words about the apocalyptic red dragon in the first quote. And look at the coat of arms of the Rothschilds, on which you can easily find this dragon.
In addition to the above, I can note that the Vatican is also interested in power protection from Russia, since the dual position of the United States cannot give such guarantees.



I do not know how much all the assumptions made by me are justified. This is probably just the probability shown in some facts. Nevertheless, it is quite sufficient to keep it in mind, observing carefully the development of the situation in the world.

Stalin only wanted to wrest the capital of his country from the lab of global players and make this capital work for the people. The methods were certainly totalitarian, but do not forget to survive among wolves, you must become a wolf, and a victory in 1945 proved the correctness of the course chosen by Stalin.

[Ilyich]

The pope is no less a Satanist himself than the Rockefellers.

Inverted cross on the throne:

Satanic sign with hands:

[Terry Jones]

and you’re a photo of the main Orthodox clerk of embossing, where the clock for 30 pieces of euro is being spent on the table, and on the claw of the priest are jammed, that’s where the antichrist is the clerk of the kiryuha!

[Ilyich]

Well, the patriarch has a watch. What's next?

[Terry Jones]

It's funny that the sidekick was "embarrassed" of his super-expensive trinkets and gave the command to clean up the picture, but it turned out to be a complete mess, and the kiryuha became a laughing matter, but how did he squeeze out 20 Lyams from a neighbor's grandmother - did he sue?
yes Kiryuha just HHM !!!!!

[Ilyich]

You know, I won’t go into a dispute with you. Absolutely do not see the point. I’d better tell you one real story.
Once the parish priest was accused of adultery and theft. The fault was proven (and not as in the case of the patriarch - just rumors and dirt). The defendant admitted. Speech by lawyer F.N. Plevako was like this:

“Gentlemen of the jury! The point is clear. The prosecutor is absolutely right in everything. The defendant committed all these crimes and himself admitted to them. What is there to argue about? But I draw your attention to this. Before you sits a man who for thirty years has let you go to confess your sins. Now he expects from you: will you release his sin to him? ”

And one more thing: You probably remember the phrase of Jesus: "Whoever is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

You have no sin at all if you spill dirt with such enthusiasm? Stay Human.

[Terry Jones]

Yes, I’m staying, but the whole rcukha, in response to sound criticism, howled loudly, and requires almost inviolability at all levels.
that’s where the dirt is - the Russian Orthodox Church, a prostitute and a grafter under all authorities
By the way, there is no question of "rumors" that the Kiryukha publicly acknowledged the watch and the courtroom, and I am very happy with the phrase of Christ you quoted - but her Kiryukha must be redirected - he does not forgive anyone, but he is suing himself and initiating the courts by others. He is a dirty and dirty little man.

[Ilyich]

Terry Jones, something imperceptibly ... Something you did not understand ... Or did not want.

[Terry Jones]

yes you don’t want to see obvious things, and because of puppeteers like you, they turn this unfortunate country inside out

[marubeni]

His Holiness also has trinkets, as you say, and more expensive. And the incident with the clock has long been exhausted. Photoshop cleaning was carried out on their own initiative by an incompetent employee. And it’s not up to the laity to judge, much less the unbelievers, the affairs of the Church.

[Terry Jones]

only he does not hide them like a cheap swindler, and does not sue for the sake of his own enrichment, and corporate events are not held in St. Peter's Basilica and there is no car wash under it, etc. and so on. In short, he is not a petty greedy freak, what a kiruha is

[ioann1]

Looks like you, Terry Jones, the demons twisted, geek!

[tixij]

do you think the PATRIARCH should wear a cheap watch, full of socks and eat a doshirak? What kind of nasty manner can you take pieces of meat in a foreign plate?

[ioann1]

Lord, enlighten!

[qwz_qwz]

Quote: Company 8

The article is pure 100% nonsense. Stalinism is a system for oppressing the people, one of the most cruel in human history.

Lost, misunderstood soul ...

[Bison]

Do you even understand that the mustachioed joe people cut out? Campaign - no. Brain = small walnut.

[Alf]

Stalin took over the country with 140 million, "cut out the mass of the people" and left with 207 million.

[Morani]

15 years — more than half of Stalin’s reign — Russia lived in conditions of demographic losses that were not replenished even compared to the level already achieved, i.e. being demographically thrown back.
By the time of Stalin's death, the population of Russia was 107 million people. If there were no excess losses during the years of his reign, the Russians in 1953 could have been more than 40 million more.

[foxhaund31]

8 company, I completely agree with you, but on condition of "Stalinism" we will replace "Zionism".

[Fox 070]

Quote: foxhaund31

"Stalinism" will be replaced by "Zionism".

I support you, colleague, at 100%, because there is no greater ideological ideology than Judaism, and at present we are fully exposed to it.

[rexby63]

The traditional demagogic lies are calls to build a so-called democratic society

[Sitev]

Quote: Company 8

Article - 100% pure nonsense

Typical intriguer with a busy brain, which has memorized the list of myths as "our father"!

[Bison]

Yes, your intellectual is not modern. Modern to be cattle.

[tixij]

for you, we are rednecks for us, are you a moral freak? What’s the point? Why the hell do you climb with us with your worldview and teach us how we need barbarians to live right? Teach your wife cabbage soup, otherwise all sorts of stupidities will climb into your enlightened head.

[bachast]

It is a pity that there are very few people like you. There is no one to read ...

[Armata]

Quote: bachast

No one to read ...

Do you know the alphabet? Of course your piles broadcast in a public language

[Armata]

8 company. Give arguments against. And in general, what kind of officer are you in the Russian army? Listen, you are in Moldavian Romanian gypsies, sold out so stop tryndet against Russia.

[Bison]

These guys wanted a mustachioed Georgian. It is proposed to be discharged from Georgia; he will only grow a mustache. Human people! Well you do. You need to build a modern civilized society, and you, as animals, dream of camps. You Stalinists mother did not like you in childhood?

[rexby63]

modern civilized society

From this place in more detail, please

[Armata]

Bison and do you remember who bred these animals in Belovezhskaya Pushcha? Or began to forget how to restore this endangered species? And he’s never been seen in your place. So do not disgrace the name of a proud animal. You are not worthy of him.

[Morani]

Who has not been found? About Pushcha is a separate topic. Why are you persecuting the land without reason? Do you want to talk about Pushcha? So I'm in the subject.

[marubeni]

Someone reads, reads, but understands absolutely nothing. What does the mustache have to do with it ??

[Uncle]

You are right in saying that it’s a pity that you are being neglected for the bitter words of truth, the ruin of Russia that you described is not Stalinism, but communism. I will add to that the mass extermination of Christians and non-proletarian classes. However, the Lord arranged it so that it was in the fire of repression that the Leninist party was completely destroyed, thanks to Stalin for this.

[Magadan]

First, we all need to learn to live by conscience, judge by conscience and be guided exclusively by traditional values, squeamishly rejecting all sorts of new philosophies and teachings. I am personally Orthodox, but trying to follow these Orthodox values, I have always noticed that Muslims have exactly the same values ​​and there has never been a reason for disagreement.
So - first, a spiritual revival based on traditions and historical values, and then a leader no weaker than Stalin will appear.

Quote: patriot2

Are there many rulers in the History of Russia - philanthropists who built Russia without shedding the blood of their people?

Alexander Nevsky, Dmitry Donskoy, Alexander 1st, 2nd and 3rd. And then where did you get the idea that the same Catherine shed the blood of her people? Further, I believe that we will nevertheless remember the great merits of the slandered Nicholas II! At least his incredible economic breakthrough.

Quote: patriot2

But other progressive guidelines should be encouraged to bring people together to create a powerful progressive state - Great Russia.

We do not need any "other progressive guidelines" except those that have already been laid down by Orthodoxy / Muslims / simply by their ancestors who thought collectively. Reorient already above the roof. There is no need to invent new philosophies, and even more so to adopt foreign teachings. The achievements of our ancestors are more than impressive, so let's just remember what they taught us.

[Dr. Pilyulkin]

Quote: Magadan

Further, I believe that we will nevertheless remember the great merits of the slandered Nicholas II! At least his incredible economic breakthrough.

Yes, at least ten jerks! The Empire was profiled, created by ancestors and Russian blood abundantly watered.

[911811711]

Many of those who promote stalinization did not live in his time and did not find all the crimes that he committed, but if they had been in the shoes of his victims, then
they spoke differently.

[Fox 070]

Quote: 911811711

Many of those who promote stalinization did not live in his time.

Of course, that a lot of people (including myself) supporting I. Stalin did not live at that time, but you are not Kashchei the Immortal and you can not know for sure about the tm that you are writing. We rely on those remnants of facts that liberalists, such as Svanidze, have not yet been able to shovel, on the recollections of their fathers and grandfathers and, MOST IMPORTANT, on our ability to analytically think and perceive the world as it is today and how it was under Stalin.

Quote: 911811711

if they were in the shoes of his victims then
they spoke differently.

This is vryatli, I am not an enemy of my country and people, not a Zionist, not a fascist, not a plunderer, so I will not end up in the shoes of his "victims".
You will also include Hitler among the "victims" of Stalin's "repressions" ...

[qwz_qwz]

Quote: 911811711

Many of those who promote stalinization did not live in his time and did not find all the crimes that he committed

He ruled as time required! And unfortunately the time has come requiring a similar approach.

[runway]

Inevitability .... Stalinization .....
The author likes to throw pathos words. But what is meant by Stalinization?
PopulationTired of extortion for the same water, electricity and gas, from the lawlessness that the officials planted by the authorities do, by Stalinization they most likely mean JUST government, working for the good of the whole country, and not trying to fill its pocket.
Power, whose actions are aimed at maintaining a stable situation of shameless enrichment of the oligarchs and the impoverishment of the rest of the people, sees in this "tightening the screws" and the beginning of repressions against the disaffected.
IT, which has created the current predatory vertical of power in the country, will constitutionally not allow a change in the country's course aimed at its collapse. Hence the growth of extremist organizations. Under the policy of “tightening the screws,” these organizations will go into an illegal position and oppose the regime with unconstitutional methods as well.
The author did not add an article, because did not answer the most important question in Russia - WHAT TO DO? Ran for the fee?
And so that the author does not reproach me for not answering this question, I’ll say that I need to explain it to HIM so that it becomes clear to HIM that changing the regime in a constitutional way is BETTER.

[BAT]

Wiser, stronger and more far-sighted leader than I.V. Stalin has not been in our country for the last 200 years. And let the pro-Western liberals at least pour mud on him, you won’t eject words from the song ... Everyone who was after him only ate and squandered what was not working with him. Destroyed and destroyed everything that was built and created under it. And they cried for it in order to exalt themselves. Even the most cowardly hare is not afraid to kick a dead lion ..

[alxbond007]

The people want Stalin for one reason - for such a Man to come and make life better. And for this we ourselves would not have to do anything. By "Stalinization" our wonderful, but lazy people understand any system of government in which all problems will be solved for them.

[Fox 070]

Quote: alxbond007

our beautiful but lazy people

What kind of people are you writing about ???

[Bison]

So you understand what kind of people we are talking about :)

[qwz_qwz]

Quote: alxbond007

By "Stalinization" our wonderful, but lazy people understand any system of government in which all problems will be solved for them

Yes, the people are lazy ... lazy over the years of anarchy and connivance that's why we need a tough, charismatic ideological leader who will raise the people and make them work !!!

The people are the mechanism of the whole camp, and the ideological leader is the engine. If there is no engine, the mechanisms begin to rust!

[Sitev]

Quote: alxbond007

By "Stalinization" our wonderful but lazy people understand any system of government

Comrade, you are mistaken! Study the system of labor and remuneration of this labor under Stalin and after his murder, and you will understand how much you are mistaken! The laziness of the Russian people is a myth created by artificial means, through the Khrushchev leveling!

[marubeni]

I totally agree. Khrushchev hasn’t done much good yet, the most important demoralizer and Russophobe.

[Kite]

The inevitability of Stalinization of Russia?
An attempt at repetition will be a farce. New time - new, different solutions, partly associated with past events.
We need a calm analysis of the events of our history, calculation of the deposits of lies of the past ideology - this is necessary for a fair assessment of our heroes and knowledge of the methods of our sworn friends.

[8 company]

Here is the truth about Stalinism:

Stalin in his speech at the Military Council in June 1937. touched upon such an important moment in the current situation as 'signaling' from the field. Of course, without a well-established system of denunciations, it would be extremely difficult to fight such a large-scale number of internal enemies. The leader emphasized the great importance of timely information:
`` You signal badly, '' Comrade Stalin said to the military, `` and without your signals, neither the military commissar nor the Central Committee can know anything ... Every party member, an honest non-party citizen, a citizen of the USSR not only has the right, but is obliged to about the shortcomings that he notices , report. If there is at least 5% truth, then this is bread ... 'The leader set a peculiar level of truth, only 5%, and, unfortunately, the Red commanders and political workers swallowed it. Denunciation, encouraged from above, flourished under Stalin. The notorious 58th article on state crimes, adopted in 1926, had several points, which provided for criminal punishment "for failure to report", it was on these points that the wives of "enemies of the people" were put in camps for not reporting their own husband.

Denunciations were written both voluntarily and involuntarily, under pressure from the investigation. The mass arrests intimidated the society to the limit and caused a wave of the most varied denunciations, reaching the point of insanity. Mercantile and everyday denunciations flourished, when a person wrote a denunciation on a neighbor in a communal apartment, hoping in the event of his arrest to occupy the vacated living space. Many heads, including bright and smart ones, flew in the course of "careerist" denunciation, when the informer hoped to get a higher position. A classic example can be considered the 'case' fabricated at the Reactive Research Institute on the denunciation of an employee of the Institute A.Kostikov to various authorities about 'sabotage activities' at the RNII. As a result, almost all the leadership of the RNII and the most prominent designers were arrested and convicted, Kleimenov, Langemak and three other people were shot, and Kostikov became the director of the Research Institute, received the Hero of Socialist Labor, and was long considered the only creator of Katyusha.

Scammers were encouraged and rewarded. Back in the late 20s, for denouncing a neighbor who hid grain from requisition, the peasant received a certain percentage of the seized grain as a reward. Children were also actively involved in the denunciation. Some naive children, imbued with the "importance of a task entrusted," proud of the trust placed in them by adults, even denounced their own parents. Pioneer Pronya Kolybin exposed his own mother, who went to the collective farm field to collect spikelets in order to feed him. January 6, 1934 Pravda and many other newspapers published a letter from the pioneers of the village of Novaya Uda in Eastern Siberia, where Stalin was exiled during the autocracy. The pioneers reported: who reported whom in the village, and then, in the order of criticism and self-criticism, reported about each other and about themselves. The Artyomov family, consisting of spouses and 5 children, reported in a family contract: in total they managed to 'expose' 172 people who, in their opinion, were 'enemies'. Members of the champion scammer family were awarded medals and valuable gifts. The act of Pavlik Morozov, who "laid down" his father, was heroized by Stalin's propaganda: songs and poems were composed about him.

As in all society, denunciation flourished in the army and navy. In each part there was a so-called "special officer" who was engaged in identifying unreliable. At the request of the head of the Main Political Directorate of Mehlis, the political workers of the units wrote secret descriptions to high-ranking commanders. Any Red Army soldier could now write a denunciation on the commander who did not please him with something, as a result, discipline during the years of the Great Terror slipped to the lowest limits.

In order to receive independent information on the situation on the ground, Stalin created the so-called Special Sector with a personal secretariat. This Special Sector was subordinated to the special sectors of the district and regional committees, which had their own people in all enterprises and institutions. This reporting system was personally closed on Stalin and worked independently of the reporting system of the OGPU-NKVD. The Special Sector was headed by Stalin's personal secretary, Alexander Poskrebyshev. Thus, in the USSR, a multilayer, cross, system of total political investigation duplicating itself was created.

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: Company 8

As in all society, denunciation flourished in the army and navy. In each part there was a so-called "special officer" who was engaged in identifying unreliable. At the request of the head of the Main Political Directorate of Mehlis, the political workers of the units wrote secret descriptions to high-ranking commanders. Any Red Army soldier could now write a denunciation on the commander who did not please him with something, as a result, discipline during the years of the Great Terror slipped to the lowest limits.

By the way, no country in the world, even the most democratic, can live without the "institution of snitching". And it is there in the order of things. The connection knocks on the neighbor, etc.
And do not forget that these are "special officers" (in the war "SMERSH") Outright beat "Abwehr" and other special services.

[8 company]

Quote: Oleg the Great

By the way, no country in the world, even the most democratic, can live without the "institution of snitching". And it is there in the order of things. The connection knocks on the neighbor, etc.

You forgot about the significant difference: there they knock not on those who told a joke about the head of state, but about ordinary criminal offenses. Although I think they did not forget, but deliberately did not mention this difference.

[Oleg the Great]

And you are well versed in this system. Do you knock yourself?
And the second one. All tales of criminal cases related to jokes - remain tales. Have you personally seen a real criminal case?

[8 company]

Quote: Oleg the Great

You personally saw the present criminal case.

What the hell is it for me? So I believe that 400 GAZ workers were repressed in a year, because they are pest-terrorists-spies? Or over a year more than 500 military leaders of the Red Army were shot according to the same formulations, and there are yogs at all. Cases and weight of testimony. So I still won’t believe it.

And you are well versed in this system. Do you knock yourself?

And you know how to stick labels. You probably have a well-developed and long language.

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: Company 8

What the hell is it for me?

That would not rush empty words.

Quote: Company 8

And you know how to stick labels well

I did not stick the label. He suggested. No need to juggle.

[8 company]

Quote: Oleg the Great

That would not rush empty words.

Give an example when I threw empty words. For everything that I write, I am responsible and can confirm my statements with memories of participants in the events and quotes from documents.
For example, eyewitnesses write about the system of mass denunciation in the Stalinist USSR:

From the memoirs of Nina Viktorovna Maltseva ('Behind the canopy of the Stalinist press'), in the 30s she lived in Dnepropetrovsk and worked in the editorial office of the regional newspaper:

“Any institution had its own informer, a 'snitch' from the NKVD, he had to find enemies of the people and identify them, and then they decided how, when and where to arrest him. In our editorial office, such a "snitch" was a certain Moiseevich - a stupid, arrogant, cunning person, he enjoyed his power. The 'informer' prowled everywhere, intervened in everything, threatened everyone. He held the modest position of a manager. On his conscience were many lives and misfortunes of people. However, he had no conscience. The work of a journalist was then often combined with the work of a 'gunner': he had to accuse the person indicated to him of some crime, that is, invent his crime and write about it in a newspaper article. It was the NKVD's job to arrest the 'guilty' on this basis. Once in my room our journalist rushed about and tore at his hair, telling me that he had received such an order from the 'authorities' and knew that a man would die from his false information. If he does not write this article, his friend will write it, and he will go with the accused. '

L.L. Kerber recalls in his memoirs 'Tupolev Sharaga' about the system of informing in the so-called "sharashka" - a prison where convicted engineers and designers worked by profession:

“The case of provocation and investigation was delivered to TsKB-2 truly to the space level. A NKVD officer led a 'convict' to one of the rooms of the prison administration under the guise of a production call. There he was politely asked for help: “Watch the enemies and inform us, we do not ask for more”. No longer by hints, but directly promised to take this into account when drawing up lists for release. Encountering a refusal, they passed to the threats to send to Kolyma, add 10 years. Most of the threat endured, the minority argued quite slippery: they say, I agree, but I will not write. So on the second, third call they made it clear that they are now connected by round bail with 'organs', the only way out of which is death. The terrified police officer began to invent, organizations, spies and pests arose. All this for the time being evolved in the dossier. Sad but true - the number of people recruited was quite large. Surprisingly another - information about this leaked out and most of the 'snitches' we knew.'

[Oleg the Great]

Everything about memories is all subjectivity. Only documents can be trusted. Give me a link to an existing criminal case in which a person was shot for an anecdote about Stalin, on the orders of Stalin. I then believe that it is Stalin who is the villain. And I do not believe in memories.

[loc.bejenari]

you appeal to the memoirs of our heroes of warlords as an axiom — so why are the memories of ordinary people who don’t need to cover their butt and tell tales do not suit you
and fairy tales (sorry memoirs) will be scripture for you

[Armata]

Quote: loc.bejenari

you appeal to the memoirs of our heroes commanders

Do not spoil the memory of those people because of whom you were born and live, it’s a pity that you can’t swear and I can’t get a gnaw ............................. ................

[Bison]

You need to get the brain.

[Armata]

I hear a horned one. Pray to God that the gypsies protect you, and God forbid we meet.

[tixij]

we will split off your case.

[rexby63]

These are far from ordinary people, if even after the camps (according to them) they were allowed to print their memories. Show me at least one thief, not even a thief, but his children, who were allowed to go to college or get a prestigious job? And why these supposedly honest people did not deny themselves anything after having visited the zone? And these "honest" people, not people - creatures, I will never believe

[tixij]

I'm actually not bloodthirsty, but for some reason I want to shoot ......... in your head

[rexby63]

I read the memories of this Maltseva - I was mistaken. She is not yours. She is an ordinary fascist litter. You, dear, will not be the same?

[Raven1972]

The most important thing - WHO remembers - JOURNALIST !!!! In my opinion there’s nothing more to talk about. And the snitch’s surname is very interesting ...

[pistons]

Good answer ... "Nakoy it for me" You must not believe. You must know.
Then it is possible to declare Stalin a bloody executioner.

I had to somehow read the case of "an innocently executed official from the USSR Ministry of Health", by the way, the Memorial society rehabilitated him.

So this worthy citizen. was a banal thief (in especially large sizes)

As for the army .. I served in the late 90s in our unit.
You could safely take almost any officer or ensign and boldly plant.

But even the banal theft of fuel can be regarded in different ways ..
It is also possible to undermine the country's defense capability. and how to betray the motherland.

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: pistons

But even the banal theft of fuel can be regarded in different ways ..
It is also possible to undermine the country's defense capability. and how to betray the motherland.

100% rights

[smile]

8 company

Without going into the discussion, so, for reference - I already wrote, really - in Lithuania, every employee of any state organization and any private one operating in a "sensitive area", when hiring, signs a commitment in which, on pain of criminal liability, he must report to the appropriate authorities - addresses ... phones are attached about all faces. who speak negatively about the Lithuanian state. his policy, his leadership, the president. ECONOMIC policy, etc. (everything is described in detail on several sheets). without a subscription - they will not be hired. and if they took it before the innovation, they were fired for refusal. This applies to all officials. social security workers. management companies. postmen, dock workers, firefighters - almost everyone .... Like the system? But tell me, an obscene anecdote about the Lithuanian-American president, how is it - sedition, or not? So here you are very wrong ... I would say dramatically!

[Bison]

Lay out a scan of the obligation, the Lithuanian regulatory framework on this matter - we will discuss the meaning and literal translation.

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: Company 8

there they knock not on those who told a joke about the head of state, but about ordinary criminal crimes

A citizen of that country lived in a very democratic country. True Arab nationality is with him. He idolized Obama, he loved Bush. I didn’t tell jokes about them. But his neighbor, he suspected an al-Qaeda terrorist in him. Knocked on their bodies. And this turned out to be an Arab, a citizen of a democratic country, in one of the secret prisons of this democratic state, created on the territory of another democratic state with a plastic bag on his head, watered with water from above. Miraculously survived. And there are dead. This story is true.
Question: Who is to blame, Obama? special services? neighbour? And what is history, no doubt "democratic"?

[loc.bejenari]

you redo the plot a little
nationality Russian
Idolized Lenin
Stalin loved
but a neighbor suspected him of a Japanese-Polish spy
miraculously survived freed after xnumx years
the truth is everything seems

[smile]

loc.bejenari (1)
So you admit it. that there is no difference between "Stalin's crimes" and the achievements of Western democracy? Congratulations on your recovery and thanks for your honesty! :))))))
So. but now you have to go expose them and make them repent. Will you go?

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: loc.bejenari

you redo the plot a little
nationality Russian
Idolized Lenin
Stalin loved
but a neighbor suspected him of a Japanese-Polish spy
miraculously survived freed after xnumx years
the truth is everything seems

The fact that I wrote the pure truth.

[rexby63]

In the United States, they launched a new mobile application for iOS and Android, with which users can quickly send a denunciation to the authorities if the behavior of people around them seems suspicious to them. For ordinary Americans, this application of enthusiasm has not yet caused.

Suspicious Activity Reporting is a free application and is now available for download in versions for Apple iOS and Android. With it, users can take pictures or videos with objects or actions that they think are suspicious. After that, you should indicate the coordinates of the suspicious place via GPS, accompany your denunciation with text and send it to the authorities.

Yes, and about the jokes - do you know the man who was jailed for ONE joke about Brezhnev? Do not tell my slippers. I studied at MPEI, along with foreigners, told jokes about the sea, and about Brezhnev, and about Chernenko, and about Andropov. They did not put ANYONE. For reference, the PT-84 stream. It’s one thing to tell a joke; it’s quite another to spread rumors

[Bison]

Here Olezhka froze, so he froze. An informer is an informer. And everyone understands what that means. Do not compare your finger with a pussy.

[tixij]

about the informer and pisyulku are you chtoli to yourself?

[wk]

Quote: Company 8

Stalin in his speech at the Military Council in June 1937. affected

"handshake" You seem to be mistaken as a resource!? .... to "anal plugs" .... there you write your "handshake" and "nepolzhivschina", but here Khrushchev - Yakolev - Gorbachev - Shevornadze .... lies - DO NOT KATE !

[apro]

Yes, the 8th company is informative information. For some reason, other democrats do not publish lists of informers for anything. Otherwise, it will turn out to be like an operational alias of the winds with a somzenitsen. Some 30% condemned the memories of the Nkdeshnik condemned for a false denunciation.

[8 company]

Quote: apro

just for some reason lists of informers non-current democrats do not publish

Are you not afraid that your grandfather will appear on the lists of informers? They say that in the archives there are still millions of written denunciations.

[apro]

Better bitter but true than beautiful but false. Some of the workers and peasants are afraid to let the tiligents worry.

[Volkhov]

Only in modern Makhachkala there are about 10 thousand full-time Interior Ministry informers — practically the second police force, so the changes are not so great, though it’s of little use. Knocking information is a gossip factory, and real crime and spyware bypass it easily.

[Raven1972]

Right !!! 5 +++++

[Fox 070]

Quote: Company 8

They say that in the archives there are still millions of written denunciations.

They say that chickens are milked in Moscow ... Facts !?

[Odinplys]

Quote: Company 8

Are you not afraid that your grandfather will appear on the lists of informers? They say that in the archives there are still millions of written denunciations.

If you fell and cannot go ... know you can take another step ... it is not death that is terrible ... worse than death ... dishonor ...
It doesn’t matter who was ... someone’s grandfather ... it doesn’t matter who you are ... but when it comes to betraying the Fatherland ... this is not a denunciation ... this is service to the Fatherland ... and you should not confuse the informer .. .with the Patriot ...

[Vlaleks48]

I would like to hear from you, my friend, under what articles were your relatives or neighbors repressed?
After 37 years, when "just a beginner fighter with the cult of personality Nikitka" angrily stamping his feet yelled why he sent 19000 people to repressions. Only six thousand were left for consideration, the rest were recognized indiscriminately accused. And so it was with many things already when Nikita was the first.
The system itself, built on ignorance and cronyism without proper upbringing and education, simply could not work otherwise.
She completely repeated the French revolution!
But JV Stalin avoided this, the country was reborn and a new elite appeared in it. Thinking about the future!
And I just recommend you read Stalin, his work, regardless of the topic.
This is despite the fact that I am personally against the "furry pegevogot"! And I consider Stalin to be a man who snatched the State from the Zionist networks, but the truth is not for long!

[Odinplys]

Quote: Vlaleks48

But I consider Stalin to be the man who torn the State out of Zionist networks, but the truth is not for long!

Glad to like-minded people ...
It is this ... fascist = Zionism ... that is the first evil ... not only in Russia ...

[Raven1972]

Dadada, it was to him (Nikita) I.V. Stalin said on this occasion - "Quit the fool"

[tixij]

so in the subject, it was like passing to the "SHSHA", drank pivasik, on the way I ask my friend to stop the car to take a piss. did the job, we go further, after a while their cops catch up with us, and they tell me that I did something that is categorically not I should have pissed. and that in court, witnesses to this crime will be ser takto and sriha such that who observed all this immoral act from the outside and immediately reported it to the police. that's how it is with them free.

[Raven1972]

Quote: - As a result, almost all the leadership of the RNII and the most prominent designers were arrested and convicted, Kleimenov, Langemak and three more people were shot, and Kostikov became the director of the Research Institute, received the Hero of Socialist Labor and was considered the only creator of Katyusha for a long time ... -
Langemak and his comrades have squandered people's money for 10 years, having never been able to present a workable sample for testing - so they asked how it should be. If this camarilla had not been shot, having put in their place really specialists, then we would not have had any Katyusha in '41. So don't talk nonsense. Only those who wanted to eat well and not answer for anything and their descendants howl about "terrible" repressions.

[Prophet Alyosha]

Yes! Only the arrival of the national-power-minded leader-dictator can save Russia from extinction! Putin (Shelomov) could not cope with this role. The dictator and the new Russian elite, ready to sacrifice life for the sake of the Motherland and the People !!!

[apro]

This old man can only drag him here?

[Ribwort]

Quote: apro

This old man can only drag him here?

Well, suppose Lukashenko is not Stalin, but I would vote for him.

[Volkhov]

When he realizes that Belarus is flooded, there will be options - in Switzerland or in the Caucasus / Altai, we will unite. Pu and his retinue are focused on Afghanistan with NATO, so it won’t interfere.

[sealord]

On his last visit to Venezuela, a quote from the dad: "When we land in Venezuela ..."
Looks like he chose "vector"!

[Volkhov]

Yes, it seems I chose - a selection of countries of visit ... But only the presidential board flies to Venezuela, and in advance, and for Belarusians only the closest options.

[sealord]

Venezuela is full of "Belarusian enterprises" and everything is quiet and peaceful - competent work.

[Odinplys]

Quote: apro

This old man can only drag him here?

The only one who voted ... in those conditions ... against the dissolution of the USSR ....
We urgently need to tighten our Ukraine ... and together we will defend everything ....

[Bison]

You can link to a document where Luke voted against (in the kitchen, in parliament or in thoughts), who voted for? You are welcome.

[Raven1972]

That is why they do not want to unite with Belarus !!!! Then Lukashenko can stand for president of the Russian Federation ....

[Oleg0705]

prophet Alyosha,

Old Man is a worthy man, but still do not jerk ahead of time, do not run ahead of the horse.

[Bison]

Take it to yourself. Tear it from the heart.

[Ribwort]

Quote: Prophet Alyosha

Putin (Shelomov) could not cope with this role.

Definitely!

Quote: Prophet Alyosha

The dictator and the new Russian elite, ready to sacrifice life for the sake of the Motherland and the People !!!

And where are we going to put our "reformers" and "elite"? They have already "got a taste" - they will not leave.

[Prophet Alyosha]

The only way!!!

[Terry Jones]

ha ha, a former warrant officer of the KGB, put a star on a carriage and a cap on an airfield - a clown in a red shirt, a cancer patient with a cancer on his head, chavez is resting

[Bison]

you need chaos - bystryuk, gypsies. find two out of three.

[Armata]

And which of them is gypsy? Pole, Belarus and I don’t know who the boy is. Turn on your brains when you post it.

[Morani]

Locomotive! He was laughing for five minutes. Where is the Pole? Where is the belarusian? Indicate. Who is the boy? Sorry for the boy.

[philosopher]

Here, finally, a fresh and sensible thought! Plus you.
Of course, the Old Man is very, very far from Stalin, but I’m sure that from Putin to Stalin it is even further.
Of course, the people of Belarus have problems and are difficult for them, but their leadership is not corrupt and more honest than ours, for example. The West does not like him, but Old Man counts on his people, not overseas dolars. He is the master in his country and knows what to do for her.
I would also vote for him, but I don’t live with him, unfortunately ... I won’t say if he had managed if he had managed Russia or not, but in Ukraine such a host is not enough.

[zmerus]

And here's another "shit craze"
The list of those shot only at the Stalingrad Tractor Plant in 37-38.
There are only four sheets, this is sheet one:

Fokin - Director of the factory,
Karduner - Director of the plant (after Fokine)
Czarnko - chief engineer of the plant
Bursak - Head of Plant Construction Department
Cuzco - Deputy Chief Production Engineer
Stankevich - head of technical department, chief designer
Love - head of design department
Artyushin - assistant to the beg. tech. department
Kuksa - Head of Technology Bureau
Litvak - a leading technologist in motor production
Kotlyar - Head of the Joint Design Bureau
Zabin - Head of the Machine Tool Bureau
Zaritsky - head of the mechanical assembly shop No. 1
Simonov - head of the mechanical assembly shop No. 2
Cheshev - Head of the forging shop
Rybakov - head of the iron foundry
Zybin - head of the steel shop
Verzhinsky - the main metallurgical plant
Kuzmin - head of the central laboratory of the plant
Mashevsky - chief power engineer of the plant
Kagan - Deputy Chief Power Engineer
Chunkin - deputy. Head of Production
Lozner - head of the tool shop
Rouet - head of the mechanical repair shop
Ingelman - Deputy. chief mechanic of the plant
Suchev - deputy. the head of the forge shop
Pirogov - beg. design office of the chief mechanic
Belokhvostov - head of the tractor testing department
Udalov - deputy. Head of the mechanical repair shop
Yarotenko - chief accountant of the plant
Reznik - engineer, organizer of through brigades
Selyaninov - Director of the Federal Educational Institution and the Training Plant of the Plant
Dines - head physician of the medical dispensary of the plant
Sazanov - chief inspector of the plant

Already really, fools history does not teach anything .....

Oh yes, a question for our "Stalinophiles": And what suddenly happened to Soviet ichthyologists by the mid-30s and the CER, builders and employees, with all their families, eh?

[Oleg the Great]

Quote: zmerus

And here's another "shit craze"
The list of those shot only at the Stalingrad Tractor Plant in 37-38.
There are only four sheets, this is sheet one:

And the criminal case materials against them? What is written there?

[zmerus]

And what is written there? All "thieves and robbers"? Saboteurs and pests? Agents of the State Department and Japanese intelligence?

[Fox 070]

Quote: zmerus

What is written there?

A reference please!
Unless of course it exists in nature !!!

[Terry Jones]

Love Japanese !!!!!

[The centurion]

Quote: zmerus

All "thieves and robbers"?

This is very similar. Now any boss can safely put for it, you will not be mistaken. And then it was the same, everything else went in a trailer. Now any mound or bourgeois mines, he has property stolen abroad, and this is a political matter. Not only did he steal, but also exported to strengthen the enemy economy.

[philosopher]

Let me add an example: there are 450 deputies in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. I am sure that if everyone is driven out to the field and mowed with a machine gun, then none of them will be "innocent". Behind each not one million sins hangs. And also ministers, like uncut dogs, and judges, cops and prosecutors, like fleas on a basement rat. And also extortions, crime, price increases, lawlessness ...
In a word, I see how we live here, and I think: “But Stalin was right, you need to clean your heads, otherwise they started to rot!

[Bison]

Make a request to the NKVD, they can answer.

[8 company]

Quote: zmerus

Already really, fools history does not teach anything .....

In August 1937. arrests began at the largest Soviet automobile plant GAZ. At first, specialists and shop managers were arrested, by April 1938. got to the director S.S. Dyakonov. According to the NKVD, the director was a real devil: he worked for the intelligence services of Japan, Germany and several other states, "disrupted the work of the plant", "specially appointed" anti-Soviet elements to leading positions, etc., etc. After 5 months of investigation, the director was shot. At the same time, it turned out that the "enemies of the people" were the chief accountant Chuiko, 19 senior accountants, almost all engineers, designers, technologists, heads of a kindergarten and a cinema photo base, and the chief physician of the district. Specialists who had undergone training in the United States and American specialists who helped build the plant were completely exterminated: I. Tuchelsky, D. Sigler, M. Kadaryan and others. According to the NKVD, only in the first half of 1938. at GAZ, 407 "spies of foreign intelligence services" from such countries as Germany, Japan, USA, Italy, Latvia, France, Romania, Bulgaria were exposed. Many of them worked for intelligence agencies of several states at once. At GAZ in 1938. 139 thousand cars were produced, in 1939. - 110 thousand, and in 1940. - only 65 thousand - a natural result of the personnel pogrom.

[Oleg0705]

The only thing I could rebuke Comrade for Stalin is not completely cleared the fifth column.

[Fox 070]

Quote: Oleg0705

not completely cleaned the fifth column.

Greetings, Oleg! It's time to call comrade "Mauser" and comrade "Maxim" !!!
The help of these comrades can be very effective!

[Odinplys]

Quote: Oleg0705

The only thing I could rebuke Comrade for Stalin is not completely cleared the fifth column.

Perhaps yes ... such a sinner is attributed to Stalin ..
That's why he will return ... he is already coming ... and the echoes of his steps ... lead some jackals ... here in a stupor ...

[Bison]

In order to breed a small dog with crooked paws and an angry character, puppies suitable in complex were constantly selected from the litter of dogs and after dozens of years received a perfectly suitable specimen - for example, a dachshund. For decades, the color of the nation (strong-willed people who are ready to die for the truth) has been destroyed in your country, as a result of this selection we have - informers, opportunists, toadies, thieves, demagogues - idiots, and simply - villains. Olezhka — the fifth column to the USSR was simply a people campaign.

[tixij]

it’s better for you to apparently monitor the color of your nation, aren’t we trying to make dachshund wolfhounds out of you? so you will die your righteous capitalist anger and engage in your daily affairs. your civilized nation really turns blue, and we forgive ourselves for such a future .

[valokordin]

Judging by your conclusion, you think that rotten shit is the people? Then the informers are crime fighters, opportunists are honest officials, sneakers and demagogues are craftsmen, speakers. And she remained thieves thieves. Everyone sees well how the country lives and who is now held in high esteem. It used to be believed that a person is honored at work. You don't look like a bison.

[Fox 070]

Quote: Company 8

arrests began

[Bison]

The request of the Secretary of the Kirov Regional Committee M.N. Rodin to increase the limit on “withdrawal” by 300 people for the “first category” and 1000 people for the “second category”, in red pencil to increase the order of I.V. Stalin not by 300 but by 500 people in the first, and increase not by 1000, but by 800 people in the second category. October 22, 1937.
You even pee in the eye.

[Fox 070]

Bison,
Hi, puffer! Do you have a personal dislike for me, or is it like that - did you come out of your mind? Well, if you take up photoshop, first study the history and understand for yourself what the secret documents of that period looked like and how they were made out. They were printed on a typewriter in black and white, and not in a typographic way in color.
Who are you trying to spoil your brains?
I, too - a connoisseur ... Cheap!

[tixij]

he just paid pi .... dorok! as with ILF and PETROV, remember: (with the modern development of printing in the west, print a Soviet passport a couple of trifles.) These are the .. and they still print all kinds of bullshit.

[Fox 070]

Bison,
In order not to be unfounded about the fake, see for yourself ...

[Raven1972]

Respect !!!

[rexby63]

You are lying. For all the military four years produced 176 thousand cars. So these are the war years. Chatterbox!

[tixij]

and what did you cling to this GAZ? did your relatives work there? repressed? ruined the family business?

[bubla5]

Yes, I would now gladly draw up such a list for execution in any large bank or company.

[rexby63]

Lichen, and the link is weak to give? Long time ago noticed that you are sick, verbiage. That’s why there is no faith in your empty words and comments

[tixij]

you, as a citizen of the USA, should take up other calculations. a list of victims on September 11th. or do you really believe that all this arranged for alkaida? in that case you are just mu ... duck.

[wulf66]

Can anyone name the differences between Peter the Great and Joseph Stalin? Both countries pulled out of shit and made the Empire, forcing the west to reckon with it. I found only one difference. One is called Great, and the second is crap prevented by inventing horror films and horror stories about the history of Russia. And the statements by the US secretaries of state that Russia does not have the right to the wealth of Siberia, I think everyone has heard ...

[apro]

As for Peter1, everything is so smooth and Russia, with his father, was a stable state, and his reforms are very controversial.

[Prophet Alyosha]

Absolutely right. Peter is one of two tsars (Ivan the Terrible) who turned the Russian Autocracy into a tyranny. He introduced the horror of serfdom in Russia, never before seen in our country, he destroyed the Church, removed the Patriarchate in Russia, deprived Russia of democracy in the form of Zemstvos and Zemsky Sobors, destroyed all Russian and introduced Western values ​​— tobacco, vodka, debauchery. Compared to normal kings (John 3, Alexander 2 and 3, Nicholas 2) - Peter was a worthless pro-Western king.

[Oleg the Great]

Well Nicholas - it was in vain stuck here.

[Sitev]

Quote: Oleg the Great

Well, Nicholas - it was in vain stuck here

You're not right! Explore all sources for both pros and cons! To get started, watch the KM.TV program "History of Russia XX century"

[Sitev]

Quote: SitEV

KM.TV

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[Oleg the Great]

Quote: SitEV

You're not right! Explore all sources for both pros and cons! To get started, watch the KM.TV program "History of Russia XX century"

A person who has lost his country, brought it to revolution - a priori cannot be a worthy ruler. And "a good person and a kind family man" is not a profession. His profession was an all-Russian autocrat and he could not cope with it.

[Armata]

Prophet stop smoking. And on the forum, your church agitation is not needed. Do you want to communicate easier.

[philosopher]

Dear, well, you yourself answered your own question!
Peter was a pro-Western tsar, therefore, when "they" were rewriting the history of Russia, they declared him great. But Stalin did not take into account the opinion of the West and relied only on the potential of his country and people. That is why, to the West, he is a bone across the throat.
What is incomprehensible here. Look who your enemies praise, and who they criticize and it will become completely clear who is needed for the country and who is harmful. About Nicholas, it’s you who may have got excited, but Alexander III, this one was a normal man, he didn’t cajole before Europe. When his train crashed, Alexander III, along with soldiers and railroad workers, participated in saving passengers in the car, in which he himself was. Some of his words should be written in gold letters on the Kremlin wall. Especially that Russia has only two faithful allies: its army and its navy. And also that Europe can wait while the Russian tsar is fishing.

[The centurion]

Quote: wulf66

I found only one difference. One is called Great and the other is crap

And not yet evening. Prince Vladimir was also a tyrant more abrupt than Stalin, in addition, a fratricide, a polygamist and a rapist and ...., and was numbered among the saints centuries after 5 after death, when the time came. It is possible that Russia will fall into such a steep turn of history that the region will need real characters and heroes.
And then they will open the grave, and discover imperishable relics and shining orders .... and valiant priests will be counted among the saints. Everything has its time.

[Raven1972]

At the same time, for some reason, he was silent about the fact that Petrusha built his paradise on the Neva on the bones ... And serfdom tightened to lawlessness ... Silent, from the hospoda shit krat ....

[gavana]

but everyone remembers how raped the almighty leader of the dictator Kadaffi?

[TekhnarMAF]

Do not confuse} {go with your finger !!

[smile]

gavana
And why are you here with your abomination crawled out? There are special sites for people with your inclinations .... it’s disgusting to read you ....

[Bison]

Type: fuuu, nasty ...

[Fox 070]

Quote: gavana

but everyone remembers how raped the almighty leader of the dictator Kadaffi?

Are you interested in the topic of male rape?
Apparently, you yourself have undergone similar actions.
Well, dear, did you like it ???
Answer, do not be shy ...

[Bison]

The kings must remember this and remember :)

[tixij]

you apparently liked it? voiced your address, I will send the guardsmen to you.

[PARROT]

Why in the USA and Europe they do without Stalin? The answer is obvious - the fact is that we have broad masses of no-talk, only to drink and flow, and the call to return Stalin is an admission that "I" cannot change anything and, accordingly, no one else can do everything right, you need a guide as for sheep. They build bad cars because Stalin is gone, the rights of people are violated because there is no Robin Hood, and Syria cannot be defended because there are no Olesha Popovich and Dobrynya Nititich, and there are no worthy presidential candidates and no defense minister, because a shit he knows what to do, but Stalin must.

[Oleg the Great]

Did you understand what you wrote?

[smile]

PARROT
You are a writer, sir! You can read with pleasure, without going into the meaning - completely pearls! Only "the broad masses bezolkovye" what are worth !!!!!! as well as deep, solid and square ... masses - they are so !!! :)))))
In your comment, you only wrote the word "dick" byz mistakes! Carrrrumba! Stalin is not on you - he would teach you to read and write! :)))))))

[bachast]

smiley
This comment is the most sensible in the topic. And you could not oppose anything except how to reproach a person for illiteracy (as they say now, they switched to a person)
You write smarter, but not smarter. These are different things. Read it again, think about it, these "illiterate" words describe the whole essence of our troubles

[smile]

bachast
You know, I never cling to the authors of comments just because of literacy, firstly, because I admit them myself, and secondly, often a person who is at odds with grammar expresses thoughts that are much more literate than the most professor professor.
This is not the case at all. He wrote not just something wrong - he set forth the postulates opposite to the true state of affairs. But essentially did not argue with him for the reason that he did not consider him a worthy goal
I’ll answer you, even though the head is already buzzing.
I’ll make a reservation right away - I’m not a Stalinist, and appreciating this really great historical figure, I am well aware of both the positive aspects. And also the negative ones.
Your statement. that I’m no smarter than leaving him unanswered in connection with that. that 1. maybe the way it is
2. It does not harm others and does not carry in itself slander against our people and our society, but it does not bother me - I am confident in my mind.
Next, you will laugh. but I scanned the masterpiece again ....
And what have I read -
pretty cool hyperbole. but with the help of her, a comrade put in his mouth the people who were fighting for Stalin his stupid words, and he exposed them.
If you look at the history of Europe. it’s full of such Stalin’s cruelties. but practically no one has positive results for their country. With us, it can only be compared with Peter, only with that difference. that Peter achieved much smaller positive changes in the country with much larger population losses (in percent). It is also necessary to take into account the moment that the balance of power in a totally armed Europe, which was by no means going to refuse to undertake to finish us off as a political player on the world stage and tear the country apart for trophies, was much worse for us under Stalin.
The trouble with the comrade is not that. that he is grammatically illiterate, but that he is historically illiterate, it’s like him, they only more literally sing false songs about the fact that we are all drunks, are not capable of anything. except to pray for Stalin who killed five times the entire population of Russia, and who ate him twice ...
And finally - not a single country in the world has experienced such trials as ours over the past century. In fact, we started with the post-war devastation of the 20s, poor without industry, without gold reserves exported to former allies, or simply stolen by them, having 98% of the illiterate population, without a fleet and aircraft, having an almost semi-regular army, the armed devil knows than having gangs on all border territories and actively exchanging glances with their neighbors through gun panoramas, which they had much more (especially among Europeans who had mountains of weapons left from the war).
In a few years. using cruel. the most severe measures we were able to build a monstrous industry almost from scratch. which was able to cope with the Wehrmacht, a monster that has trampled for months the most powerful military powers in the world, and supported by the industrial and human potential of all of Europe and, to a large extent, the US .....
Yes, there were repressions. for the period from the 20th year to 53, all of our judicial and extrajudicial bodies executed both verdicts and without trial or investigation (you understand that at that time the total number of records) was approximately 2,6 million. This included everyone - and numerous gangs and DRGs actively sent by some neighbors, and deserters shot before the ranks, and nationalists and simply murderers and bribe takers ...
By the way, here they laugh at Japanese spies. and so - they laugh in vain, for example, in Japan, from 35 to 44, a Japanese intelligence center with an intelligence school was actively operating. where they trained scouts and saboteurs. The Japanese staff - about 300 people, the Finns, violating the ceasefire obligations, delivered Sweden, and there they interned, we could not intercept the archives ..... well. generally long list ...
so there were enough spies too ... but it’s not important, it’s important. that thanks to these sacrifices, and the Stalinist system built on strict principles, we even exist ...
And how after this relates to a comrade nonsense, who managed to slander his own people. calling his people a dumb mass of drunks. who don’t know. what to do .... That's it. I hope I clearly explained?
And you better re-read the thoughts of people who advocate the Stalinist system (well aware. By the way, that at the present stage it will be completely different - in accordance with the time) Think about it. Maybe you yourself will understand something.

[The centurion]

Quote: smile

With us, it can only be compared with Peter, only with that difference. that Peter achieved much smaller positive changes in the country with much larger population losses (in percent).

During the reign of Stalin, despite the fierce war, the country's population increased by more than a third; during the reign of Peter I and Ivan the Terrible, it decreased by more than a quarter each time. In poor conditions, people do not multiply, but die. A recent example of this, the 90 years, is actually a pest.

[smile]

The centurion
Correctly, I agree, I spoke in principle about the same thing.

[rexby63]

Support.

[Morani]

Falsification of demographic data is not such a simple matter. One can name any birth or death rates and make them believe, but sooner or later they are subject to objective verification, because the number of people depends on them, which means the number of workers and consumers, soldiers and voters, schoolchildren and pensioners.
Estimates of the demographic losses of the USSR by domestic specialists who gained access to archival materials became possible much later. According to these estimates, the number of excess deaths in 1927-1940 amounted to 7 million, in 1941-1945 - 26-27 million8. But there were still direct losses from the famine of 1946-1947 (approximately 1 million people), as well as victims of the post-war Gulag. So the total direct losses of the Stalinist USSR are at least 35 million people, and most likely they are higher. And besides, one should take into account a significant reduction in the replenishment of the population due to children who were not born to prematurely dead.
By the time of Stalin's death, the population of Russia was 107 million people. If there were no excess losses during the years of his reign, the Russians in 1953 could have been more than 40 million more.

[Bison]

The smiley, judging by his posts, is always "rushing" in earnest. Considers himself the most intelligent and consistent. Constant self-admiration. I read in some topic how he describes with foam (either cowardice, or heroism, in his opinion, heroism) he shoveled all the Chich / Indians and threw the radio operator, and then vomited (or at first) In short, the Indians are no longer there, he has them shoveled everyone. Clinic. Rave. Chatter. Constant self-admiration. The meaning and information in his long posts is zero.

[smile]

Bison
Hello. I always welcome a skeptical approach to evaluating information. Still, it's not worth lying. If you misinterpret everything heard so. that. Unfortunately, I have to admit. that the value of your statements is null.
Unfortunately . in the episode you mentioned about the Indians (that’s what you called them there), it was mostly not I who beat them - I ran more. than he shot, but emotionally wrote, because. that infuriated me ... yes, this is a flaw.
By the way. you. I remember indignant at why, I indicated exactly the age of twelve. I’m answering now, because he read your comment a week later.
Russian children in Lithuania. unlike adults, they fought back. And the conflicts were serious, right up to the broken goals. And in our childhood perception, it was a war. real. but when we grew up it all came to naught I don’t know. - either the children's room of the police worked, or the Lithuanians, growing up, learned to hide their adopted in their families. dislike for Russians ... but in any case, by the age of 13, I clearly knew that it’s bad to beat people, it can be crippled.
Regarding the information in the comment criticized by you - you cannot say specifically, where have I sinned against the truth?
Yes, and I was not going to reveal secrets here - I just gave a detailed answer to a comrade (read from above), in which I connected the well-known facts in a coherent manner.
So. sir. I'm waiting for where I told a lie.

[Yarbay]

Bison
I often argue with Vladimir and oppose him!
I have never met on his part * narcissism * and * a painfully heightened assessment of his mind * !!
Yes, I do not agree with him in everything, but I am convinced of his decency!

[smile]

Yarbay
Thank! It's even interesting to argue with you. although it’s really hard to convince. :))))

[smile]

Bison
Print!
Sir, when I read your letter of conformity with this statement, I even admitted. that this, though erroneous, but your opinion ...... that’s a nuisance, but you’re out of place and in the wrong place ... write the same comment (even I counted two episodes) ... at least a letter changed ..... and you write this comment already ... God forbid memory - tell me yourself - one and a half weeks ..... sir, well, at first I really took you seriously ... thought, suddenly, you honestly are mistaken ..... but now ..... it's time to change the nickname, because after such a shame people either shoot or leave for Australia .... and who needs you in Australia? ....

[tixij]

Before you throw stones at someone, look at yourself. in my opinion, no one else is infected with narcissism here.Nidat do not take VISSASUARI LOKHANKIN. So I want to recite, "bison and its meaning in Russian literature, etc. etc. YOU ARE NOT A BISON, YOU ARE ELK.

[tixij]

what smoked ???

[rexby63]

Why in the USA, Europe do without Stalin

Well, I visit the Cherkasy region regularly and nowhere is it particularly striking that people don’t know the story. Where did you come from with such bright gaps in knowledge?

[gavana]

something like this..

[TekhnarMAF]

Yes, you see your roof blown off from swamp feces !? Ask the "competent" persons for padporka. Obviously, you fell below the city sewer if you are happy with such frames, I would say in the words of a boatswain during an emergency, but, unfortunately, I do not want to sink to the Sewerage Level!

[Oleg0705]

Quote: TehnarMAF

Obviously empty

apparently Vasil accidentally survived after an abortion

[smile]

gavana
Get out of here to dog fucking on specialized sites along with your creativity and pictures. necrophile unfortunate !!!!!!!!!! Those like you disgust everyone - that of the most notorious Stalinists. that the finished liberals!

[Bison]

Do you cultivate?

[Lech e-mine]

Look at yourself from the side - you will cultivate.

[Yarbay]

and what did you want to say with this photo ??
I was not a fan of Gaddafi and his management methods, but those who are in this photo next to him are much more vile to me than he is !!

[Bison]

Jackal - Jackal death. Tsarek - unfinished.

[Deniska999]

Do not beat the Russian people!

[Lech e-mine]

I agree - sow the wind, reap the storm.

[___ ___]

RUSSIA SHOULD REMOVE ITS IRON CURTAIN FROM THE WEST (IN THE EXAMPLE OF THE NORTH KOREA OF YOUNG PEOPLE!) ONLY IN THESE CONDITIONS RUSSIA WILL BE ABLE TO SELECT FROM FULL * OPA, I AM FOR THE REVIVAL OF THE USSR !!!

[Prophet Alyosha]

Right!!!

[Armata]

The question is not to be closed from the west, the question is to take the best from there, and not let them in to yourself. The Iron Curtain is the direct path to war. Are you ready to die?

[Jungar]

The first half of the XNUMXth century was the era of great leaders. Lenin, Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill, de Gaulle, Tito, Kim Il Sung, Mao Tse Dong ...., and even Hitler. They were terrible or good, but they were great! Unfortunately, the time of the great has passed, and now listening to different gorlopans, we can only regret that in our time even such miserable mediocrities as Gorby can become leaders. All guys, there’s no one to hope for. There are no true leaders, no general state idea. There is only one, eternal, our Motherland and our Children in it! Therefore, we must raise the country ourselves, with our labor and heart. The Russian people have proven many times that they can do it! The era has come not of leaders, but of every person, and we all together are that collective mind, which will become the last great leader.

[sergo0000]

Jungar,
And once the Russian people had already proved this by abandoning their petty-princely princes and inviting the prince from the Rurikovich side! That was the brilliant idea of ​​our ancestors! For the sake of saving the fatherland and uniting in one fist-STATE!

[Heroes]

But for big things, we sometimes forget about the most important thing, about Our Children. In today's world, our children and youth are the most vulnerable link. They are more likely than adults to be adversely affected. And given that they often remain face to face with this world, it is clear that it is difficult for them to understand it, which hinders their full development. I think you with appreciation appreciate my offer. Here is what I want to offer: to organize a virtual youth community (movement) on the Internet. A community that could unite our youth around itself. Using the Internet, give them the opportunity to express themselves; about their talents and exploits; about personal, creative, sports achievements; about life hobbies. It can be anything if it is good, development and good. With the help of this community, we could instill in our youth feelings of patriotism and responsibility for our great country. Show them what is good and how to strive for it. To teach them to believe in themselves, in their strengths, in their country. If this project is made interesting and popular, that is, there are opportunities to improve the Education, Culture and Health Care of the People, and not only that, large spaces will open before us to improve all the qualities of the Russian Federation. I would like this movement, which I called the Heroes of Our Time, to be similar in nature and organization to the pioneer movement.

In the project, implement the following principles:
1. Establish the Heroes of Our Time Award. To award this prize to all those who, with their heroic deed, a good example, a brave decision, have done good for people and our country.
2. Create a social website Heroes of Our Time. So that this award is always covered on the Heroes of Our Time community site. The stories of these people were recorded in a kind of board of honor, forever. So that the country could know its Heroes in person and take an example from them.
3. The ability of each participant in the movement to nominate a candidate for the Heroes of Our Time Award. Using the GNV site, discuss and vote for the candidate.
4. In a separate directory, add files (dossiers, photos, videos) of those heroes who defended, released and worked for the good of Russia. Thus, pay tribute to them for their labors, and I repeat once again the country should know and remember its heroes.
5. The ability for everyone to register in this movement (community) to take full part in the life of the project.
6. The ability to each participant in the movement to show themselves; own interests, talents and exploits; personal, creative and sporting achievements; life hobbies to other community members who could take an example from them, learn from them, communicate with them. So that a positive example can be seen and spread.
7. The creation of this community will be able to help organize and realize the potential of active and proactive people.
8. The ability to organize competitions, contests, competitions, public events thereby developing and instilling cultural, educational and sports qualities.
9. Creating a database of all specialized circles, classes, special sections, clubs of interest in the Russian Federation. With ratings and user reviews.
10. Creating online help similar to telephone assistance where you can get real-time advice or psychological assistance on issues such as alcohol and drug addiction, tobacco addiction, for young people and adults.
11. Introduction of a system of likes for voting for or against a particular case (situation, candidacy).
12. An opportunity to organize such actions as community work days, or for example such action would be possible. I read that the share of clothing imports to Russia is 95 percent. These figures shocked me. Really in Russia do not know how to sew. What would happen if through the Internet with the help of the community to hold an action: what do our children, youth want to wear? Give the task to professional designers and everyone who wants to create sketches of clothing design. To publish all the sketches received and to select the best in an open vote, and to create a collection and a brand from them. This brand will produce high-quality and inexpensive clothes. What it will give: economic growth, additional jobs, quality goods. I think few would be against wearing clothes made in their country for their citizens, and thereby help her. I think you will agree with me.
13. Through this movement, each participant has the opportunity to apply with a request, wish, proposal, idea to all participants or certain responsible people for the possibility of realizing a particular case, action.
14. In this Internet space, create the Book of the Wise. Book of the Wise what is it? This is the section in which we can send proverbs, folk wisdom, statements of famous people, winged expressions in order to collect a true collection of knowledge. Imagine a book in which all the wisdom of generations will be collected ... Everyone will discover for himself something new in this book, expand knowledge and understanding of our world. Indeed, knowledge and experience for this exist to replenish and be passed on from generation to generation. I believe by putting together all the wisdom we can enrich our worldview, as well as the worldview of future generations.

Nowadays, we are living a difficult stage of human development. Many negative factors affect us. Man as a person and society is less and less a single whole. There is no necessary connection which should unite us. It is not easy for us alone to answer today's challenges. Therefore, I think and believe this idea, the initiative can positively affect our society. You know very well what effect social networks have, how many people on our planet, countries use them. The number of users is increasing every year. All popular social. Networks do not have any positive effects, except for communication and exchange of information. What I propose is a form of advertising using this movement. Advertisements of people who have positively realized themselves in this life, who will be set as an example to everyone and from whom we can learn. The creation and construction of the social youth movement Heroes of Our Time should exist for people who want to actively participate in the development of their country. A social. the network will help them coordinate, promote and positively influence this movement.

Think like Heroes and you will become them!

[patriot2]

Someone again wants to shed more human blood - looking for a reason to do this for the unification of Russia. What for? Orthodoxy, like other religions, does not speak of violence against people. There is no excuse for violence. And so far no one in this world has been able to create a state without violence.
You can zamusinuat, but I have not heard sober and reasonable thoughts on the reunification of the Russian state non-violently!
People with the intellect of Pithecanthropus are able to swing a club, put on a stake and rot in a pit, hiding behind religion.

[mechanic33]

"democracy, independence and sovereignty" as a label stuck on the old "good" Western relations: the metropolis, vassals and their colonies

[Pinochet000]

I really liked the article +++++

[Bugor]

I agree that there is no IDEA !!!
The GDP could not give birth to this idea, let alone the Bear.
You look at the country: we win the third World Hockey Championship, and we only begin to celebrate this event this year, and in the afternoon !? Why? Why not in the evening when you can light a firework?
We crap in the European Football Championship, and we have no action, except for the resignation of Fursenko.
Here is an IDEA - SPORT!
But our rulers are unable to implement the idea. They can only cut gas or take kickbacks. If Medvedev blurted out the word "squeeze out", then he knows what it is? Why not eradicate it? Why are our big bosses given 200 years suspended for bribes in the billions, and the peasants who stole a bottle of vodka from the shelf - 3 real years?
No matter how they criticized Stalin, I think that they are needed. Let with variations, but - needed ...

[apro]

Mound, you will also drag the ballet. Only justice and law can become a national idea.

[Oleg the Great]

In the 70's after Vietnam, the United States was, to put it mildly, not up to par. Reagan came. Where did he start? He said that the USA is a great power. Americans are great people. That was the idea. Everyone rallied around this. Nobody says that to us. Here we shy from side to side.

[marubeni]

They may not say it, but deep down they know it and believe in the greatness of the state.

[Heroes]

But for big things, we sometimes forget about the most important thing, about Our Children. In today's world, our children and youth are the most vulnerable link. They are more likely than adults to be adversely affected. And given that they often remain face to face with this world, it is clear that it is difficult for them to understand it, which hinders their full development. I think you with appreciation appreciate my offer. Here is what I want to offer: to organize a virtual youth community (movement) on the Internet. A community that could unite our youth around itself. Using the Internet, give them the opportunity to express themselves; about their talents and exploits; about personal, creative, sports achievements; about life hobbies. It can be anything if it is good, development and good. With the help of this community, we could instill in our youth feelings of patriotism and responsibility for our great country. Show them what is good and how to strive for it. To teach them to believe in themselves, in their strengths, in their country. If this project is made interesting and popular, that is, there are opportunities to improve the Education, Culture and Health Care of the People, and not only that, large spaces will open before us to improve all the qualities of the Russian Federation. I would like this movement, which I called the Heroes of Our Time, to be similar in nature and organization to the pioneer movement.

In the project, implement the following principles:
1. Establish the Heroes of Our Time Award. To award this prize to all those who, with their heroic deed, a good example, a brave decision, have done good for people and our country.
2. Create a social website Heroes of Our Time. So that this award is always covered on the Heroes of Our Time community site. The stories of these people were recorded in a kind of board of honor, forever. So that the country could know its Heroes in person and take an example from them.
3. The ability of each participant in the movement to nominate a candidate for the Heroes of Our Time Award. Using the GNV site, discuss and vote for the candidate.
4. In a separate directory, add files (dossiers, photos, videos) of those heroes who defended, released and worked for the good of Russia. Thus, pay tribute to them for their labors, and I repeat once again the country should know and remember its heroes.
5. The ability for everyone to register in this movement (community) to take full part in the life of the project.
6. The ability to each participant in the movement to show themselves; own interests, talents and exploits; personal, creative and sporting achievements; life hobbies to other community members who could take an example from them, learn from them, communicate with them. So that a positive example can be seen and spread.
7. The creation of this community will be able to help organize and realize the potential of active and proactive people.
8. The ability to organize competitions, contests, competitions, public events thereby developing and instilling cultural, educational and sports qualities.
9. Creating a database of all specialized circles, classes, special sections, clubs of interest in the Russian Federation. With ratings and user reviews.
10. Creating online help similar to telephone assistance where you can get real-time advice or psychological assistance on issues such as alcohol and drug addiction, tobacco addiction, for young people and adults.
11. Introduction of a system of likes for voting for or against a particular case (situation, candidacy).
12. An opportunity to organize such actions as community work days, or for example such action would be possible. I read that the share of clothing imports to Russia is 95 percent. These figures shocked me. Really in Russia do not know how to sew. What would happen if through the Internet with the help of the community to hold an action: what do our children, youth want to wear? Give the task to professional designers and everyone who wants to create sketches of clothing design. To publish all the sketches received and to select the best in an open vote, and to create a collection and a brand from them. This brand will produce high-quality and inexpensive clothes. What it will give: economic growth, additional jobs, quality goods. I think few would be against wearing clothes made in their country for their citizens, and thereby help her. I think you will agree with me.
13. Through this movement, each participant has the opportunity to apply with a request, wish, proposal, idea to all participants or certain responsible people for the possibility of realizing a particular case, action.
14. In this Internet space, create the Book of the Wise. Book of the Wise what is it? This is the section in which we can send proverbs, folk wisdom, statements of famous people, winged expressions in order to collect a true collection of knowledge. Imagine a book in which all the wisdom of generations will be collected ... Everyone will discover for himself something new in this book, expand knowledge and understanding of our world. Indeed, knowledge and experience for this exist to replenish and be passed on from generation to generation. I believe by putting together all the wisdom we can enrich our worldview, as well as the worldview of future generations.

Nowadays, we are living a difficult stage of human development. Many negative factors affect us. Man as a person and society is less and less a single whole. There is no necessary connection which should unite us. It is not easy for us alone to answer today's challenges. Therefore, I think and believe this idea, the initiative can positively affect our society. You know very well what effect social networks have, how many people on our planet, countries use them. The number of users is increasing every year. All popular social. Networks do not have any positive effects, except for communication and exchange of information. What I propose is a form of advertising using this movement. Advertisements of people who have positively realized themselves in this life, who will be set as an example to everyone and from whom we can learn. The creation and construction of the social youth movement Heroes of Our Time should exist for people who want to actively participate in the development of their country. A social. the network will help them coordinate, promote and positively influence this movement.

Think like Heroes and you will become them!

[Bugor]

2 APRO: How is it? Justice and law cannot be an IDEA.
This is a given that must be observed. DO WHAT SHOULD, AND BE WHAT WILL BE.
And the IDEA is completely different.

[apro]

Dear Bugor, Russians have such expressions that they should do it honestly, so as not to offend anyone and not deprive anyone. This is a special ideology of mutual solutions in the world in the community, this is not always equal. and the protection of legitimate just rights is the main priority of society. And DO WHAT SHOULD AND WHAT WILL BE It is the lot of bandits and temporary workers who don’t think about others. The American approach.

[bubla5]

But under dictators, industry flourished everywhere, advanced science developed, though the wars were fierce under them, well, a good life was not enough for the population

[Alx1miK]

Stalin is one of several great politicians in Russia. And it is in the first lines.

[Alexander 1958]

Good day to all!
I would like to say a few words in PROTECTION of 8 Mouth.
I do not know whether he understands this or not, but by his criticism of Stalin he is doing an important and necessary thing - he draws attention to the reverse side of Stalin's successes. In my opinion, both Stalin's successes and his crimes are inseparable and we will have to accept them only together! Now, in my opinion, the situation is similar to the one that was at the end of the 20s, and therefore Stalin was in demand. All the sacrifices that the people suffered during Stalin's rule were not in vain. This applies both to those who were justifiably repressed, and to those who fell under the distribution being innocent. I think that a lot, but not all! from what he says is true. There were repressions and left such a mark on society that even now, after 80 years, we remember and fear them! His presence on the site is necessary and useful. He reminds all those who want Stalin's arrival that this Medicine is very bitter and dangerous! Not everyone who will be treated by him will recover, and they will be treated regardless of whether you are sick or healthy .. Here fox70 said .. This is vryatli, I am not an enemy of my country and people, not a Zionist, not a fascist, not a plunderer, so in the skin his "victims" will not be.
... I think not a fact. This is how it goes. And it will probably not be so important for you now whoever the Stalinists will consider you an enemy or those who are fighting against Stalin using him as a cover. And the result of the struggle is not predetermined. In the 30s, Stalin defeated. Nobody knows how it will be now. We all face a choice - Stalin with his successes for the country and people and repressions, or the option of Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia - everywhere else .. The choice between bad and bad! Personally, I see some kind of hope in Stalin. and the fact that the victims will not be in vain ...
With uv. Alexander 1958

[mechanic33]

Alexander Petrovich plus you, I, too, although I came across an 8th company in a dispute, but I think that this is useful for both sides.

Quote: Alexander 1958

Stalin with his successes for the country and people and repression

here I think that if the successes of the country and people need tough measures to inadequate that in every possible way impede this, then society should be able to clean itself of parasites, corrupt officials, pests ... there are a lot of them now, and how many were then, after the revolutions and the civil war ...

[Odinplys]

Quote: Alexander 1958

The repressions were and left such a mark in society that even now, after 80 years, we remember this and fear them!

Yes ... only this trace ... was mostly trampled on by ... Zionists ... and worshipers ... who, on the same behalf of Stalin ... have lost their speech ...
I’m a little distracted ... notice, after all, the Zionist Jews consider themselves to be Pushkinists for the most part ... for what ... to interpret it to us as it is beneficial to them ...
Only the implementation of Stalin's ideas ... will pave the way for the future of Russia

[rexby63]

Sensibly. Plus.

[Prophet Alyosha]

I agree! We need a normal Russian Monarch-Samoderzhets, not a Tyrant !!!

[loc.bejenari]

right -Vladimir to the kingdom

[Prophet Alyosha]

I said, NORMAL!

[Alexander 1958]

An autocratic monarch, you say .. It seems to me that Stalin possessed a much bigger loan than Nikolai 2 himself, and not because he was more cruel. He had an IDEA for which his crimes and mistakes were forgiven him .. It is unlikely that any of the Russian monarchs had such an idea. In my opinion, both Ivan the Terrible and Peter 1 did a lot for the Russian State, but as for the people, they were just supplies. And from the strengthening of the State they received practically nothing .. Here, in my opinion, the difference between the monarch and Stalin. and who seems more useful to you for the country and the people you decide.
With uv. Alexander 1958

[Prophet Alyosha]

You're not right! The Russian Monarchy has always had a national and supranational idea - FOR FAITH! Tsar and the Fatherland !!! ORTHODOXY, SELF-POWER, PEOPLE !!! And we are not indifferent to Stalin because he reminded us of the Autocrat, although any Russian Tsar is better than Stalin!

[philosopher]

Let me object a little.
For faith, it is not necessarily for Christianity. And the Orthodox are by no means Christians. They were given this "commentary" after the church transformations of the times of Peter I and Tikhon. But that's not the point. The theme is that in Russia there are other religions, as well as many atheists and nihilists.
Therefore, I think that faith, the king and the fatherland, this is not Orthodoxy, autocracy and nationality.
By the way, how do you see the mutant, consisting of autocracy and nationality at the same time?

[philosopher]

Amendment!
I apologize, made a reservation: of course, not Tikhon, but Nikon.
And perhaps you really didn’t mean the Christians (Orthodox), but the pre-Christian period (Orthodox).

[zevs379]

Read - all the water. Not a single sound thought is all superficial. I suggest everyone on this site just to voice their vision of the Great Russian idea in a few words like- Family God Russia. Maybe at least we’ll find something.

[black cat]

Quote: zevs379

Read - all the water. Not a single sound thought is all superficial.

Even water can be analyzed. Exactly what the author calls for destroys Russia. None of the peoples of Russia have any rights. Neither the Tatars, nor the Russians, nor other peoples. Seen from the side, Russia is not a union of peoples, but a union of officials of United Russia. Want prosperity, fight for your rights. Only free Tatar and free Russian will be for the union of peoples, if they want. Slaves do not need a Federation. Slaves need a tyrant.

[loc.bejenari]

you read - and you are convinced - the Russian land has not become impoverished for the people who are offended by the mind
and can’t wait for them all the autocrat of the dictator on his back, fattened by excessive sitting in the office
and they don’t think good-natured that such a kind uncle will come -yes picking up laptops with smartphones from everyone so that Western heresies would not listen
and there’s nothing for them to travel around Thailand and Turkey — we have a lot of wonderful places in the far north — let them rest there — yes, and let the country do something useful than sit in offices on soft chairs and dream of a good king
it’s time to raise Russia from its knees — oil prices are falling — new deposits are far — here let their backsides be warmed up under the polar suns
mind will be recruited

[Bison]

This is due to the general level of education. In short, their mother did not like.

[tixij]

YOU MOM MAY APPEAR FULL OF FEED, HAVE REACHED TIME FROM YOU CLIMBING, BE CAREFUL DON'T REDUCE.

[tixij]

YOU ALREADY EXPERIENCE FOR THE NON-SALERY EXPERIENCE, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AS YOURSELF.

[vrnfox]

Good day to all)))
Yes, history is a science that does not teach anything, and this is a fact for today; Yes, all this dermo has been creeping in since 1917;
people want money and wealth, but forget one little thing, but they are made of meat and the only thing they get around is their little worthless filthy life !!!!!
everything is very simply solved just refuse money that you owe oh I forgot this is crazy but you can take health or life and everything will fall into place very simply !!!!
and mister with the last post from a friendly usa you jerked your mouth and did not open the insignificant insignificant !!!! you need to be wet in a sort !!!!
return the king and officers with honor !!!

[8 company]

Quote: loc.bejenari

mind will be recruited

They won’t be typed, they firmly believe that they will be completely safe. Sometimes the thought arises that I would like to see how these today’s Stalinists will scam each other and, in court, with tinted fingals, will repent of creating a counter-revolutionary terrorist organization.

[Bison]

They will fall on each other, only on the road, screeching and licking the enquedged boot.

[I627z]

Good afternoon, 8th company.
In a similar "conversation" with the Stalinists, they argued that even their ancestors, when they were in the camps (surprisingly how they confessed), experienced an unreal pleasure from imprisonment, and did not say anything bad about Stalin.
I would look at the man who left the camp and said about Stalin at least something other than admiration. They, unlike the majority of those calling on Stalin, drank from his regime firsthand.
Therefore, it is pointless to say that everyone can "sit down" and even the Stalinists, for they will sit down for the "case." I would like to see how they will say this when loading into the funnels.

[AK-74-1]

The article is good. The author is a bold plus. I agree with many comments. But I do not agree with one point. The author thinks in terms of "nation" and "people". These concepts were invented in the 13-15th centuries in England and France during the formation of parliamentarianism. These concepts had an absolutely divisive purpose. We need to think in other categories. "common values", "common history and culture", "mutual development", "common territory". Such concepts determine other approaches to the development of the individual, his participation in a group (general) living in a certain territory, his participation in the project “Big Russia” or the project “Russian Empire”. They talked a lot about different languages ​​and ways of compact living in certain territories. But all these territories were common to all citizens of the Empire (I am now writing about the USSR). And then I cannot say that some Poles, Georgians or Jews were "non-Russian people." There are so many examples in our common history. And as soon as we start talking about a specific population of a specific territory as some kind of identifying feature, we all descend to the level of criminal authorities. We descend to the level not of creation, but of separation.
For me, I like other principles of cohabitation
"The guest is satisfied - the owner is glad" or "The honor of the guest - honor to the owner". But at the same time, "Do not poke your nose into a strange monastery with your charter." It should be. We have a long and common history. We are united by the Great and Mighty Russian Language. We have huge expanses and equal people live in every corner of our country and this corner is common.

[razved]

Stalin, of course, is a controversial figure, but his activity at the head of state is difficult to overestimate. Thanks to the author for the article.

[denis29_82]

All the same, the internet is a thing. Any comrades who are not comrades to us with rapture on all sorts of Moscow echoes and other contacts write and write sentences for themselves. Even to calculate the bulk of these alternatively gifted is not necessary. The only question is what to do with them at the onset of the hour. Go straight to the wall or redeem the chance to leave with blood. So what about Stalinization, so to speak on new technological rails.

[AK-74-1]

Why to the wall. You can send to the 501 or 503 th construction sites. And they will be far away, and cool their lush little heads, and they will bring benefit to the Motherland.

[Odinplys]

Quote: AK-74-1

Why to the wall. You can send to the 501 or 503 th construction sites. And they will be far away, and cool their lush little heads, and they will bring benefit to the Motherland.

Only so. Let su ... ki work out ... for life ...

[Raven1972]

To the wall - up to 12th knee, so that later the "righteous avengers" (who ruined the USSR) did not appear ...

[8 company]

Quote: AK-74-1

Why to the wall. You can send to the 501 or 503 th construction sites. And they will be far away, and cool their lush little heads, and they will bring benefit to the Motherland.

A very correct proposal! It is necessary to introduce criminal liability for denying the massacres of Soviet citizens, organized by the Stalinist regime, to give a "ten" and go ahead - for the development of Kolyma, as with a beloved leader. We will not plant wives, as under Stalin, we are not animals. And for the vile attitude towards their own people should be punished.

[AK-74-1]

I do not recommend reading BABO LERO with BABO PEOPLE at night. No need to build thoughts on the fakes of Khrushchev, Yakovlev and other traitors.

[8 company]

Quote: AK-74-1

I do not recommend reading BABO LERO with BABO PEOPLE at night. No need to build thoughts on the fakes of Khrushchev, Yakovlev and other traitors.

Similar advice to you: do not read Mukhin, Starikov, and other professional perverters of Russian history, who are fans of Dzhugashvili, Beria, and Kaganovich, for the night. Instead, I recommend that you carefully read historical documents and memoirs of participants in the events.

[Vlaleks48]

Young man! You just have to stop reading! Nothing will help you, it’s harmful to you!
Better write, you can immediately see what and where rushing!
"Stalin" is needed today more than ever - the "liberals" from his name are switching to a whisper, and thieves of all concepts are clogged up.
It doesn’t matter if the state on our behalf is controlled by people with the aim of gaining money. THIS IS ENEMIES! And THE ENEMY WHICH HE DOES NOT POST, SHOULD BE PICKED!

[Terry Jones]

the gods have already punished you - they have deprived your mind ...

[tixij]

DO NOT REMEMBER THE NAME OF OUR LORD IN SUYA! especially you frost charmed.

[Rebus]

Quote: Company 8

fans from Dzhugashvili

I am not a fan of Stalin ... but without him our state would not have existed. Or would you like to be a slave?

[tixij]

didn’t you notice, he is already a SLAVE, a slave to the lamp.

[philosopher]

... no, not a lamp, he is a slave to corrupt television and Bolotnaya Square.

[Odinplys]

Quote: Company 8

Very correct offer! It is necessary to criminalize the denial of mass killings of Soviet citizens

To have a Soviet passport ... this does not mean to be a Soviet person ...
Stalin destroyed the traitors ... and beat not the passport but the Zionist faces ...

[Bison]

I'm surprised. I was so brainwashed in the Komsomol. People without a clue where black is - where white. Millions of people went through the hz. He knows that it’s death, and most importantly for no reason, without guilt (even administrative) they were killed and tortured. And still, these mustache lovers grind rubbish in their Stalinist stupa.

[tixij]

I’m also surprised how you went through this crucible and survived, to listen to you, it seems that your life is worse than the days when you were in the Komsomol, just not.

[Morani]

tixij
Hi
And what a day
Reaches, will not reach?
Huge zero
The slave is pathetic.

[Alexander 1958]

For 8 company
Why are you stopping halfway through the denial of the "ten" mass killings? I think you will be warmly supported by the proposal to punish for mentioning tens of thousands of built enterprises and increasing life expectancy. And the war ... It is necessary once and for all to explain to people that our victories in 1942 (Stalingrad), 1943 (Kursk), etc. this is all the result of the landing of the allies in 1944 and not the other way around, but before that .. only in captivity they learned to surrender. But who fought, it was Anders Army in Central Asia and Normandy-Neman in the air. Nope, the USSR did not fight! Where did he get his army? One half of the country was sitting, and the other was guarding it! If it weren't for our allies, then we certainly wouldn't be able to do it. Allied girls helped! And how did you fight? Yes, practically until the end of the war, only with bottles with a combustible mixture. If not for Lend-Lease, they would throw Molotov cocktails at the Rekhstag. And the Americans helped to restore the country after the war according to the Marshall plan. And they gave us a nuclear bomb, and they licked the missiles from the Germans .. It’s necessary to do something 8 ROTA, otherwise the 5th column, oh, excuse me, the company has not finished working here. 10 years without the right to correspond is not a punishment at all for such thoughts about Stalin!

[The centurion]

Quote: Alexander 1958

It’s necessary to do something with 8 ROTA, otherwise the 5 column, oh, sorry, the company didn’t finish here

A sensible proposal to rename the 8 company in the 5 column.
And the nonsense about 70 of millions of victims of Stalinism was charged by Jude Solzhenitsyn in his Gulag Archipelago. When, by the way, they slaughtered him from the USSR for slander, in an interview Western correspondents asked him what he thought about this nonsense. After all, any more or less literate person, applying the most primitive statistical analysis of demographic curves, understands that this is complete nonsense. Judas replied that he was not a historian, but a writer, therefore he was entitled to apply such a literary device as the grotesque, repeatedly increasing the number of victims of Stalinism. And our swamp demons are still rushing with this nonsense.
Year Population of the USSR, million people
1897 124,6
1913 159,2
1926 147
1939 170,6
1940 194,1
1950 178,5
1951 181,6
1952 184,8
1953 188
By the way, our devilry has a very interesting phenomenon. They invent all sorts of nonsense and fairy tales, they themselves tell them to themselves and others, they themselves believe, they themselves turn into horror stories and transported to the West. Then they themselves read them, they themselves are afraid and scare others. A sort of liberal-intellectual masturbation.

[8 company]

Quote: Centurion

A sensible proposal to rename the 8 company in the 5 column.

No problems. And I will call everyone who calls me "the 5th column" "Georgian-Jewish Russophobes", proceeding from the fact that the most active executioners of the Soviet - mainly Russian - people were Georgians Dzhugashvili with Beria, and Jews Kaganovich with Mekhlis ...

[tixij]

mouth, and what side did you consider yourself to be the Russian people, you can call Russian-speaking but no more. you are ROTH, just a dirty mouth and a point.

[8 company]

Quote: tixij

mouth, and what side did you consider yourself to be the Russian people, you can call Russian-speaking but no more. you are ROTH, just a dirty mouth and a point.

Thank you for your indignation, from the Georgian-Jewish Russophobe who justifies the extermination of the Russian and other Russian peoples by the Dzhugashvili and Kaganovich, I take the insults as confirmation of the correctness of my position.

[tixij]

in what words of mine did you see an insult for yourself? contempt is the maximum you deserve. and please do not try to wishful thinking. "position" look at him. what is happening with your body is called "reflex". you are a bastard from yourself bile expelling something that is dear to many here as a memory. everyone has his own, and with pain and with joy and happiness, but his own, and you shit on all this, well, you get in return. (position he has! nothing.) you have one position, maybe on your knees and face into the wall.

[rexby63]

Do not pay attention to this der.mo

[philosopher]

An illustration with a "victim of Stalinism" is cool. An absolute plus.

[Odinplys]

Quote: Alexander 1958

It is necessary to do something 8 ROTA, and then the 5th column, oh, sorry, the company did not finish here And do not almond! 10 years without the right of correspondence is not a punishment at all for such thoughts of Stalin!

Quote: Centurion

A sensible proposal to rename the 8 company in the 5 column.

I join ... from this day ... 8th company --- only 5th column ... Does not miss a single article related to Stalin ... trying to denigrate the best of the best everywhere ... Leaders of the Russian People .... Read it the article "democracy by" ... writes beautifully .. softly lays down ... but it is only harsh to sleep ... Or his comments on the article ... "a bus with a portrait of Stalin" dated 3-.05.12.

[Bison]

And you into lovers of uncle jo with Georgian attributes. And do you consider yourself Russian? Until now, they are ready to cut their people, for example, by luring out some kind of crazy mustachio of incomprehensible nationality.

[tixij]

I’m so sorry that IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH disappointed you? I understand only that you have nothing, there is simply an inferiority complex in front of this outstanding personality, I can’t explain your hiss by anything else.

[Van]

Here liberals, capitalists and other shitty evil spirits say that Stalin killed and rotted more people in the camps than anyone else, although if you look at the same shabby regimes, more people died than during the two world wars, so who is the dictator?
Yes, they will always be dissatisfied with the ruler, perhaps because of the principle, perhaps because of hatred, some because they are forced to work for the good of the homeland that they have already sold or drank or the servants who are sitting on the neck of the state, some because of resentment but it will always be so !. And if we do not change our attitude towards our own country, then we will lose it irrevocably.

And Stalin there, or what kind of king, these are just people who have the will and the idea which millions follow (and we have no right to judge them)

[Vasilytjorkin]

I liked the article. Only in the video material (generally informative) the information about Beria is unverified. Beria was slandered. I advise you to read the book by Yu. Mukhin “Who Killed Stalin and Beria?”

[Odinplys]

In general, the article is powerful and correct.....+++
You can't waste time...every missed day of death is like...
=Stalin did the literally impossible=.....
And We, the People of Russia, can... if we go forward according to Stalinsky... with his ideas... and plans... shaking off these lice perestroikaists...
Russia has its own path...And Stalin is its inalienable future...

[Morani]

Where are you going again? Who wants special stores with free food, and who wants a penny for labor or a camp?

[Odinplys]

Only in his plans... lies the happiness of Russia...

[Bison]

OBSCURANTISM

[Magadan]

Quote: Dr. Pillkin

Yes, at least ten jerks! He squandered the empire created by his ancestors and abundantly watered with Russian blood.

I will answer with a quote:
«It is a betrayal of the military one could reproach the Sovereign Emperor: why didn’t He foresee this? With exactly the same degree of logic one could reproach Caesar: why didn’t he provide for Brutus with his dagger?”The Communists really screwed up the country in 1991. And the fact that Nicholas signed the abdication of the throne is most likely another Jewish-Masson lie! On a piece of paper, with a pencil signature, without the standard “heading” of an official document, without the presence of ambassadors of foreign powers, etc. Renunciation is a common fake. They stole some simple sheet of paper, typed in what was needed and presented it to the people as a Manifesto.

[mind1954]

We are faithful to the cause of Lenin and Stalin
Calls the Soviet Peoples to heroic deeds
Communist Party of the country!

Serving Transnational Capital,
international gang of the comprador bourgeoisie,
seized power and pushed him back in 1998
from the raw materials resources of our country, has finally taken shape
into COLONIZERS, plundering and selling our country!
The fascist regime, led by two puppets,
exercising its power, turned, simply, into their
Fascist COLONIAL ADMINISTRATION!

Yes ... !!! From where and to what have we come???!!!

Before capitalism, the petty bourgeoisie was always the "six"
and she was always betrayed!
But even under capitalism it showed itself!
The first time she betrayed the proletariat was during the Paris Commune!
The second time she betrayed the proletariat in Weimar Germany!
The third time she betrayed the proletariat during the USSR!

[Magadan]

That’s right Mind, something like this happened, but I still don’t agree that the “tandem” are Western puppets. All the rot is in the middle management level among corrupt cops, judges, bureaucrats, generals, etc.
In the same middle level there are also a lot of honest, worthy people, but for some reason they are divided and do not have a single ideology, and also do not have reliable friends in their immediate circle who will not sell them out.
The fact is that the scum are very well organized and their owners skillfully pull their strings, acting strictly according to a specific plan.
There is only one way out - we all just try to live and judge according to our conscience, and then, God willing, we will cleanse ourselves of scum.

[Odinplys]

Quote: Magadan

There is only one way out - we all just try to live and judge according to our conscience, and then, God willing, we will cleanse ourselves of scum.

There is only one way out....destroy the entire fifth...fascist-Zionist column.
When will it come to our people...Russia is ruled by Jewish Zionists...and we need to get rid of them like lice...

[nycsson]

Quote: OdinPlys

There is only one way out....destroy the entire fifth...fascist-Zionist column.
When will it come to our people...Russia is ruled by Jewish Zionists...and we need to get rid of them like lice...

Only a plus for you! But if you believe the election results, then the majority of the population of our country is deeply mistaken about the role of GDP in our “development”! People have stopped thinking with their heads, everyone lives for himself, no one cares about his homeland!

[Morani]

What about pogroms?

[Fox 070]

Quote: Morani

What about pogroms?

Ooo! This is the most pleasant part... What could be more pleasant than raising a Jew on a spear and shutting his filthy rotten throat!

[philosopher]

Sorry! I wanted to press plus, but the computer slowed down. it turned out to be a minus.
I will owe two pluses (for the Jew and the Rotator) in order to correct the mistake.

[Morani]

Are only male Jews eligible for the slingshot? What about children and women too? At what age will you select people for the spear?

[Fox 070]

Quote: Morani

only male Jews?

You can't buy me with this crap! Not Jews, but Jews, and you, provocateur, know the difference in these concepts!

Quote: Morani

At what age will you select people for the spear?

From the age of 21. You can guess why!

[Raven1972]

5 +++++ Definitely!

[sergo0000]

Quote: Magadan

и

THIS IS TRUE!+

[stas64]

“But I still don’t agree that the “tandem” are Western puppets.” Dear Magadan! It seems to me that it is not corrupt cops, judges, bureaucrats, generals, etc., who set the vector for the development of a country where “Children and youth are brought up according to Western standards, they understand from early childhood that everything is tied to the “golden calf.”

[nycsson]

Quote: Magadan

That’s right Mind, something like this happened, but I still don’t agree that the “tandem” are Western puppets. All the rot is in the middle management level among corrupt cops, judges, bureaucrats, generals, etc.

Then where is the logic??? With such power, we could have ended this long ago! I think you are wrong on this issue! Too much time has passed, and the fish is rotting from the head!

[stas64]

The article is undoubtedly a plus, and more than one, but the question to the author (our original Russian and practically rhetorical) is “WHAT TO DO?”. VVP & Co clearly don’t want to play the role of state builders, they don’t want to part with power, so what next? It seems to me that since they did not leave power and at the same time clung to it with their teeth, and it was not possible to change them in the elections (there was not even an alternative), then in the near future (2,3,4 years) we will see the construction of a new state according to like Pinochet's chili with its Santiago stadiums.

[nycsson]

Quote: stas64

VVP & Co clearly don’t want to play the role of state builders, they don’t want to part with power, so what next?

GDP performs the same functions as the enemies of the people in the 20s, i.e. the collapse of everything! And then we can only wait for our people to see the light! Today they announced on TV that utilities will be increased from July 1st, and then in September they will increase again.............!

Quote: stas64

We expect the construction of a new state similar to Pinochet's Chile with its Santiago stadiums.

It’s possible, but then people will see the light faster! He has only one option - stop doing nonsense and boost our economy! Although the owners won’t give it!

[stas64]

Thank you for your support, I would just like to clarify, “Although the owners won’t GIVE UP!”

[Slavs69]

Quote: Steam Train

Are you ready to die?

For the sake of the Motherland, for the sake of the future of the children - READY!! And you?

[Magadan]

Quote: stas64

It seems to me that it is not corrupt cops, judges, bureaucrats, generals, etc., who set the vector for the development of a country where “Children and youth are brought up according to Western standards, they understand from early childhood that everything is tied to the “golden calf.”

You can try to set whatever vector you want, but everything depends on the performers. I have observed too many times how middle management in a large company can follow its own line and pervert the normal ideas of management in every possible way. The management is hanging all kinds of noodles and no matter how smart the management is, it is simply physically unable to process all the information bit by bit. Shit, of course, eventually comes to light, only the “shit producer” quit a long time ago and doesn’t give a damn.
Only the subordinates of this middle level see the whole truth, but they are always silent. Then, through questionnaires, we learned to find out more or less the truth, while no one “knocks on” anyone, but simply checks off various questions. I hope that the country’s leadership will also learn to collect objective information and destroy scum. Otherwise, it’s unrealistic - judge for yourself, we have more than two million bureaucrats, and that’s not counting the judges and the police, how can you really identify the nit? And the subordinates of these nits know everything, they just remain silent!

[stas64]

“Shit, of course, eventually comes to light, but the “shit producer” quit a long time ago and doesn’t give a damn.” Dear Magadan! Again, the question arises, why did the “shit producer” quit a long time ago and not give a damn? Apparently he is simply allowed to do this. And not only does this “shit producer” quit (that might not be so scary), but he is also transferred to another chair. Examples? Zurabov, with his pension reform, Nurgaliev, Golikova, and a host of other demons. As for the middle management in a large company (by which we can mean Russia), if necessary, the very top management has enough strength and means to bring the insane to reason. Need an example again? In no way do I want to whitewash the “swamp”, but at the top they wanted to crush them and crushed them, even the West is making noise there and can’t do anything. In addition, I would like to ask you a question: who do you mean by middle management - Chubais? Abramovich? Deripaska? Shuvalova?, Kudrina? Gref? Serdyukov? Should I list more names? And what kind of “normal” ideas were perverted by these middle-level representatives - the unbridled sale (sorry, privatization) of everything and everyone? joining the WTO? introduction of the "Bologna" education system? "a NATO base (or whatever it is called differently?) in Ulyanovsk? Or maybe something else? And don’t you think that the subordinates of these nits can remain silent because they know how and why these nits get away with everything. And in the end , if you, as a manager, cannot organize and properly control the work of your subordinates, is it not time for you to look for another place of work, simpler and quieter. If you are not yet subject, of course, to the pension legislation.

[sf35wesdg]

What is being done with the country where the authorities are looking?
I somehow accidentally stumbled upon a site for finding people http://tiny.cc/nayti
Here you can find information about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries.
I'm really scared - twist like that any nit-picking can come in and see.
Addresses, best friends, relatives, above all, for example, there are my photos, phone number.
It’s good that you can delete, find your page - pass the check and delete
And then there is nobody who is looking for ...

[8 company]

As the discussion progressed, questions arose regarding criminal cases against repressed people. I can explain using the example of one person how everything happened. So:

Langemak Georgy Erichovich (1898-1938). Father is German, mother is Swiss. He graduated from the Elizavetgrad Gymnasium and Petrograd University. In 1916 he was drafted into the army, in 1917 he graduated from ensign school, served in the Russian and then in the Red Army. In 1928, Langemak graduated from the Military Technical Academy and was sent to the Gas Dynamics Laboratory, where he worked on the development of RS-82 mm and RS-132 mm rockets. In January 1934, Langemak was appointed to the position of deputy director for scientific affairs of the Jet Research Institute NKTP (since 1937 Research Institute No. 3 NKTP). During his work, he practically completed the development of the RS-82 and RS-132 rockets, which later became the basis for the Katyusha rocket mortar. During this period, G. E. Langemak corresponded with K. E. Tsiolkovsky, thinking about the non-military use of missiles and the possibility of their use in astronautics. The term 'cosmonautics' itself was introduced by G. E. Langemak. The Jet Research Institute was created on the initiative of Tukhachevsky, so after the execution of the marshal, the institute was subjected to thorough inspection. During the inspection, an employee of the institute, Kostikov, wrote a denunciation “about sabotage at the institute.” A number of leading specialists in the field of rocket systems were arrested, including Kleimenov, Korolev, Glushko, Grave, Luzhin and others. On November 2, 1937, G. E. Langemak was arrested (warrant number A 810) by the NKVD of Moscow. On January 1, 1938, at a closed court session of the visiting Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR, chaired by military lawyer V.V. Ulrich and two members: military lawyer I.T. Golyakov and military lawyer 1st rank A.G. Suslin, the case of Georgy Erikhovich Langemak was considered. For 'sabotage in the field of preventing new models from being adopted into service' and participation in an 'anti-Soviet terrorist organization', crimes under Art. Art. 58-7, 58-8 and 58-11 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR Georgy Erikhovich Langemak was sentenced to capital punishment - execution by execution with confiscation of all property personally belonging to him. On the same day the sentence was carried out. Georgy Langemak was shot 28th on the list (letter from V.V. Ulrich addressed to the commandant of the GUGB NKVD No. 00514/1 dated January 11, 1938). Usually, the cases of high-ranking repressed persons were considered by the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR; the meeting lasted no more than 10 minutes, after which the members of the Military Collegium retired and passed a sentence that was not subject to appeal and carried out on the same day. The Military Collegium of the Supreme Court handed down death sentences to approximately 80-90% of the accused on the 'first category' list. The indictment against Langemak, dated December 31, 1937, is based on a single interrogation report. G.E. Langemak was rehabilitated in 1955. By decree of the President of the USSR M. S. Gorbachev dated June 21, 1991, G. E. Langemak was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of Socialist Labor.

Informer Kostikov in 1938 became the head of the institute transformed into NII-3, received the Hero of Socialist Labor and for a long time he was considered the sole creator of the Katyusha.

After the arrest of the leading specialists, the Jet Research Institute was in a fever for a long time, the work slowed down, then it was transferred to another People's Commissariat Vannikov, he just straightened things out and returned several surviving specialists, when he himself was arrested, as a result, by 1941 only 1 Katyusha battery was released, although sober approach to the matter, by 1941 the army could already be provided with “Katyushas in abundance.

[Morani]

Therefore, the Hans with their V-1-2 and jet aircraft progressed, but in the USSR at first they stupidly copied these things. The repressions destroyed the color of military and civilian specialists. The topic is gigantic.

[philosopher]

Let me correct your phrase, “that’s why the Hans were ironed with Katyushas and rolled into the ground with thirty-fours.”
And I don’t remember how they managed to copy the first artificial earth satellite from the Germans and the first man in space from the Americans, probably. And launch a Soviet officer into space before von Werner and the Americans.
Apparently Korolev’s “great sitting” did some good...

[Morani]

Quote: philosopher

“So the Hans were ironed with Katyushas and rolled into the ground with Thirty-Fours.”

ironing and rolling could have been done much earlier and better and with minimal sacrifices on our part. Didn't you understand the point of the post?

[Raven1972]

Actually, the developer of the RS shells was Artemyev, and not Langemak at all...

[Razor 777]

liked Stalin)

[Rascopov]

Quote: Ribwort

Quote: qwz_qwz
when the people, for the most part, finally understand what is happening - it will be too late
For the most part, people value welfare by the number of increased imported auto-trash on the roads, and the country's greatness by the amount of gas and oil sold. I'm afraid it won’t be late, it is ALREADY late.

Agree . Young people do not accept our arguments: they drive foreign cars and are therefore happy!
But Stalin was not born yet!

[nycsson]

Quote: Rascopov

Young people do not accept our arguments: they drive foreign cars and are therefore happy!

All this is Western propaganda! They imposed permissiveness on our youth: sex, alcohol, drugs, etc. Recently I watched one material, and there was one American who was in the subject and said this: while the USSR was defeating us with missiles, etc. we defeated them with our bare asses, etc.

[The centurion]

Quote: Rascopov

Young people do not accept our arguments: they drive foreign cars and are therefore happy

This is due to age and will most often go away gradually. We were like that too. The problem is different. We have had liberalist education in our country for many centuries. Most of the teachers (in the broad sense of the word) have interesting surnames, interesting faces with a purely Middle Eastern eye shape. Close your eyes for a second and remember your favorite professors, associate professors, and teachers. Half will be from THESE. And they teach according to their own laws, namely: “Sneakily and hypocritically, sow around you disbelief and doubt, blasphemy and gossip, debauchery and vices, ridicule the customs and morals of the goyim, their language and beliefs, make the goyim landless.” Then you spend half your life trying to figure out this giant tangle of liberal hypocrisy inculcated in school and college. You just start to understand something, you look, and already they’re carrying a box. This is how we have been living for several centuries. A third of the people have already figured it out, a third is figuring it out, and a third (mostly young people and “forever young” majors) are still in captivity of liberalistic hypocrisy. The classics even came up with a term, “the problem of fathers and sons.” So you can't deny THESE guys are smart. They long ago came up with something to keep the goyim occupied, in one word, “divide and conquer.”

[pilot mk]

When I die, a lot of rubbish will be placed on my grave, but the wind of time will mercilessly sweep it away I. Stalin

[Morani]

This dirty Dzhugashvili, having killed millions of innocents, dreamed of something else. The wind of history will sweep away his mask and everyone will see the ultimate monster, driven by his own pride and thirst for power, nothing more.

[marubeni]

In my opinion, your mask has just fallen off, dear.

[tixij]

yes, and apparently along with the head.

[Fox 070]

Quote: Morani

This dirty Dzhugashvili, having killed millions of innocents, dreamed of something else.

Don't you know his dreams? He dreamed of freeing the world from liberals and he was a little short of time. It’s okay, there will still be opportunities and you feel it, that’s why you twitch like a louse on a comb. Give it time, you will see for yourself...

[nycsson]

(defeat of the USSR and its allies in World War III)
Not in the Third, but in the First! And this is only a plus for the article! The author wrote everything correctly!
Of course, our country now is similar to those years, then the Jews led by Trotsky seized power and now the same thing is happening! I just don’t understand why this degenerate is still buried in the mausoleum! After all, he was a purebred who came to Russia in order for a revolution to take place and a civil war to occur! He is the enemy of our people No. 1! When Stalin was installed, he did not have power as such! The country was ruled by a Jewish-Masson elite like Trotsky, etc. And only after the 30s, when he placed his people everywhere, he began to clear the country and authorities of them. This was especially done in 37! The Jews say this: if it had not been for the year 37, then there would have been no 45!!!

[khoma nickson]

No matter how much our little Stalinists deny the obvious facts, no matter how much they invent fantasies and illusions, history has already delivered its verdict, and all the apologetics of the Father of Nations is unnecessary gossip of God’s already accomplished judgment.
Our Stalinists are inaccessible not only to a moral assessment of what happened to our country, but even a purely accounting one.
There is a good criterion in the Gospel - “By their fruits you will know them.” Let's look at the fruits of the reign of Joseph Vissarionovich. 1924-1929 - fight against Leiba Davidovich and his supporters. These reaped what they sowed. 1929 - collectivization with millions of victims, repressions against tsarist officers who had long left military service, artificial famine of 1932-1933 with millions of victims, failure of the first five-year plan. Destruction of cultural and historical monuments, the fight against religion, executions and exiles of religious figures, pests of all kinds, the liquidation of the old Bolsheviks, then the Great Terror of 1937-38, the liquidation of the “Congress of Winners” and nominees of the 30s, a wave of denunciations and the creation of an atmosphere of general fear, lack of initiative, suspicion, the formation of a “Stalinocracy”, a class of “noble people” of loyal, ambitious, unprincipled people. 1939 - Pact with the Fuhrer and friendship with him, division of Poland, then - the Winter War, annexation of the Baltic states and Bessarabia, accelerated militarization and 1941 with the loss of everything created - the personnel army, tens of thousands of pieces of equipment, alliance with the USA and Great Britain. 1945 - Great victory. Next - new repressions, the Cold War, an alliance with China, the restoration of the national economy according to the pre-war model. 1953 - strange death.
1924-1953 - total number of victims - more than 30 million. Degradation of human capital. An economy skewed in favor of the military-industrial complex and heavy industry. A command-administrative system that is not susceptible to scientific and technological progress. Pogrom of genetics and cybernetics. The world system of socialism, sucking more and more resources from the country. A callous, primitive ideology, punishment for doubting its correctness and righteousness, the lies of official propaganda. The struggle for power through intrigue and subterfuge, a system of negative selection from top to bottom. 1962 - agricultural crisis and regular purchases of grain abroad. Early 70s - economic crisis. Oil helps a little. 1991 - collapse of the USSR.
“Why do all historically conditioned and objectively necessary processes in our country acquire such a scope and occur with such a “demand” that in the end you don’t know - and still don’t know - whether it’s leading to life or to death.”

[nycsson]

Quote: khoma nickson

No matter how much our little Stalinists deny the obvious facts,

Maybe you are right, just keep in mind that Stalin took over the country in ruins, without industry, culture, agriculture, etc., and left behind a superpower with science, education, culture, etc. And the fact that he destroyed our enemies in the thousands is only a plus for him!

[khoma nickson]

During the five years of the NEP, agriculture reached its pre-war (1913) level of production. Free labor on our own land. Industry - yes, the exaggerated industrialism of the NEP could not be compared with the years 1861-1913, but the atmosphere of fear, suspicion, the search for enemies, spies, saboteurs, intrigue and snooping, denunciations and clan struggle is also a success for industrial and did not contribute to scientific and technological development. And all development consisted in the purchase of technologies, samples, entire factories or their projects, equipment in the West: in Germany (1921-1929) and 1939-41, the USA and wherever possible, Soviet intelligence was not asleep. And it was very one-sided - weapons and the heavy industry they required. What is the criterion for superpower? Atomic bomb - Pakistan is not a superpower, neither are France, Great Britain, India and Israel. North Korea and Iran, even if they create a bomb, will not become superpowers either. There was technical science, necessary for the military-industrial complex, but genetics and cybernetics were prohibited, there was nothing to say about the humanities - just Agitprop. Culture - what achievements are there, what remains of them? Education is mainly technical. By the way, since 1939, high school and higher education were paid for: workers were needed at enterprises. There have already been a lot of names of “enemies” - well, what kind of enemies are these?!

[8 company]

Quote: khoma nickson

Degradation of human capital..

It seems that there were achievements, such as military aviation and astronautics, but I agree that the system as a whole was ineffective. The collective farmer was happy with everything, the workers were constantly cutting their prices, some on piecework. Science lagged behind the West in almost all areas. My father, an engineer, told me that somehow suddenly in the 70s the Soviet leadership discovered that industrial robots and automated lines were working in full swing in the West. We decided to catch up. The Central Committee adopted a resolution on the creation of a research and development structure for the development of these same industrial robots, institutes and departments, they existed for 2 years and were slammed down, because microelectronics, an elemental base were needed, but they did not exist; cybernetics was destroyed under Stalin. They spent 2 years developing something that they couldn’t create in the first place, any normal specialist would say that, but they still wasted a lot of money and resources - the apotheosis of stupidity.

[MI-AS-72]

Help
on the number of dismissed command and control and political personnel for 1935-1939. (without Air Force)
In 1935, 6198 people were dismissed, or 4,9%. Of these, political personnel - 987 people.
In 1936, 5677 people were dismissed, or 4,2%. Of these, political personnel - 759 people.
In 1937, 18 people were dismissed, or 658%. Of these, political personnel - 13,1 people.
Of the total number of dismissed:
In 1938, 16 people were dismissed, or 362%. Of these, political personnel - 9,2 people.
Of the total number of dismissed:
In 1939, 1878 people were dismissed, or 0,7% of the payroll. Of these, 477 were political personnel.
Of the total number of dismissed:
Thus:
1. In 1937, for political reasons (those arrested, expelled from the CPSU (b) for communication with the conspirators) make up 15 people, or 578% of the total number of those dismissed in 85.
2. In 1938, for the same reasons - 8612 people, or 52% of the total number of those dismissed in 1938, that is, almost half as much as against 1937.
If we compare the total number of people dismissed in two years 1936-1937, amounting to 24 people, with the number of people dismissed in 335-1938. 1939 people, it turns out that in the first two years (18-240) 1936% of the payroll was fired, in 1937-8,6. – 1938% of the payroll.
In the total number of those dismissed both for 1936-1937 and for 1938-1939. a large number were arrested and unjustly dismissed. Therefore, many complaints were received to the People's Commissariat of Defense, to the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and to Comrade Stalin. In August 1938, I created a special commission to examine the complaints of dismissed commanders, which carefully checked the materials of the dismissed by personally calling them, visiting the places of Directorate workers, requests from party organizations, individual communists and commanders who knew the dismissed, through the NKVD, etc. .
The commission reviewed about 30 thousand complaints, petitions and applications. As a result, the following was restored:
Besides:
a) the article of dismissal of 2416 people was changed.
b) 1889 people were denied reinstatement.
Thus, the actual loss of command and command and political composition from the army is:
1. For 1936-37. – 19 people, or 674% of the payroll (including 6,9 political personnel).
2. For 1938-39. – 11 people, or 723% of the payroll (including 2,3 political personnel), i.e. almost three times less than in 3515-1936.
As a result of the great work done, the army was largely cleared of spies, saboteurs, conspirators, foreigners who did not inspire political trust, drunkards and parasites, and those who were unfairly dismissed were returned to the army.
April 1940
E. Shchadenko

Thus, in 1937-1938. Less than 40 thousand officers were actually fired from the Red Army. However, not all of them can be considered victims of repression. From the order of the People's Commissar of Defense K.E. Voroshilov No. 0219 of December 28, 1938 on the fight against drunkenness in the Red Army:
“Here are several examples of the most serious crimes committed while drunk by people mistakenly dressed in military uniform. On October 15, in Vladivostok, four lieutenants, drunk to the point of losing their human appearance, caused a brawl in a restaurant, opened fire and wounded two citizens. On September 18, two lieutenants of the railway regiment, under approximately the same circumstances in a restaurant, fought among themselves and shot themselves. A political instructor of one of the units of the 3rd SD, a drunkard and a brawler, fraudulently collected 425 rubles from junior commanders, stole a watch and a revolver and deserted from the unit, and a few days later he raped and killed a 13-year-old girl.”[120]
The characters mentioned in Voroshilov’s order are, as a rule, automatically classified as victims of “anti-army terror.” If we exclude from consideration such “heroes”, as well as those who died, were dismissed due to illness, etc., then the scale of the purge turns out to be much more modest: in 1937-1939. 9579 command personnel were arrested (of which 1457 were reinstated in 1938-1939) and 19 were dismissed for political reasons (of which 106 were reinstated in 9247-1938). Thus, the total number of officers repressed in 1939-1937. (excluding the Air Force and Navy), amounts to 1939 arrested (of which not all were shot) and 8122 dismissed from the army.
The fact that not all the officers dismissed from the Red Army were shot is eloquently evidenced by the number of complaints, petitions and applications considered by the Shchadenko commission - about 30 thousand. To be able to file a complaint, you must remain alive.

[8 company]

Good information, I’ll add:

COMOR
1. Alafuzo Mikhail Ivanovich. Rod. 1891. Shot on 13.07.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
2. Apoga Ernest Fritsevich (Frantsevich) Rod. 1898. Shot on 28.11.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
3. Bazilevich George Dmitrievich. Rod.26.01.1889. Shot March 3.03.1939, XNUMX.
4. Batorsky Mikhail Alexandrovich. Rod. 1890. Shot February 8.02.1938, XNUMX.
5. Cooper George Iosifovich. Rod. 1893. Shot March 10.03.1939, XNUMX.
6. Bryansky Peter Alekseevich. Rod. 1896. Shot on 29.08.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
7. Weiner Leonid Yakovlevich. Rod. 1897. Shot November 26.11.1937, XNUMX
8. Vasilenko Matvey Ivanovich. Rod. 1888. Shot on 1.07.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
9. Voskanov Gaspar Karpovich. Rod. 1887. Shot on September 20.09.1937, XNUMX.
10. Guy Gaya Dmitrievich (Bzhishkyants). Born. 1887. Shot on December 11.12.1937, XNUMX.
11. Gailit (Gailitis) Yan Petrovich. Rod. 1894. Shot 1.08.1938.
12. Garkavy Ilya Ivanovich. Rod. 1888. Shot 01.07.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX
13. Hecker Anatoly Ilyich. Rod. 1888. Shot 1.07.1937
14. Germanovich Markiyan Yakovlevich. Rod. 29.10.1895. Shot on September 20.09.1937, XNUMX.
15. Gittis Vladimir Mikhailovich. Rod. 24.06.1881. Shot on 22.08.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
16. Gorbachev Boris Sergeevich. Rod. 07.08.1892. Shot on July 3.07.1937, XNUMX.
17. Goryachev Elisey Ivanovich. Rod. 1892. He committed suicide in December 1938.
18. Gribov Sergey Efimovich. Rod. 1895. Shot in July 1938.
19. Gryaznov Ivan Kensorinovich. Rod. 1897. Shot on 29.07.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
20. Efimov Nikolay Alekseevich. Rod. 1897. Shot on 14.08.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
21. Zonberg Jean Fritsevich. Rod. 1891. Shot on 1.09.1938.
22. Ingaunis Felix Antonovich. Rod. 1894. Shot on July 28.07.1938, XNUMX.
23. Kalmykov Mikhail Vasilievich. Rod 888. Shot in April 1938.
24. Kovtyukh Epifan Iovich. Rod. 09.05.1890. Shot on 29.07.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
25. Kosogov Ivan Dmitrievich. Rod. 1891. Shot 1.08.1938.
26. Krivoruchko Nikolay Nikolaevich. Rod. 1887. Shot on 19.08.1938.
27. Kuybyshev Nikolay Vladimirovich. Rod. 1893. Shot 1.08.1938.
28. Kutyakov Ivan Semenovich. Rod. 1897. Shot on 28.07.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX
29. Lavrov Vasily Konstantinovich. Rod. 1898. Shot on 29.07.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
31. Levichev Vasily Nikolaevich. Gender 1891. Shot in 1937.
32. Lepin Eduard Davidovich. Rod.1889, executed on 22.08.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
33. Mager Maxim Petrovich. Rod. 1897. Shot in July 1941.
34. Mezheninov Sergey Alexandrovich. Rod. 1890. Shot on September 28.09.1937, XNUMX.
35. Mulin Valentin Mikhailovich. Gender 1897. Shot in June 1938.
36. Neyman Konstantin Augustovich. Rod. 1897. Shot in November 1937.
37. Petin Nikolay Nikolaevich. Rod. 1876. Shot on 7.10.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
38. Petrenko-Lunev Sergey Vasilievich (Lunev Pavel Ivanovich) Rod. 1890. Shot on December 9.12.1937, XNUMX.
39. Pokus Yakov Zakharovich. Rod. 1894, the verdict of the HCVS on July 16.07.1941, 10 "5 + XNUMX years", died in the camp.
40. Primakov Vitaly Markovich. Genus. 18.12.1897. HCBS 26.10.1939/15/5 'XNUMX +XNUMX years', died in the camp.
41. Putna Vitovt Kazimirovich. Rod. 1893. Shot on 12.06.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
42. Sangursky Mikhail Vladimirovich. Rod. 1894. Shot on July 28.07.1938, XNUMX.
43. Smolin Ivan Ivanovich. Rod. 1895. Shot on September 20.09.1937, XNUMX.
44. Sokolov Vladimir Nikolaevich. Born 1896, 31.05.1939/20/5 'XNUMX +XNUMX 'years old, died in a labor camp.
45. Storozhenko Alexey Alekseevich. Rod 1895. Shot in January 1938.
46. ​​Tkachev Ivan Fedorovich. Rod. 1896. Shot on 29.07.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
47. Turovsky Semen Abramovich. Rod 1895. Shot on 01.07.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
48. Ugryumov Leonty Yakovlevich. Rod. 1887. Shot on 14.08.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
49. Uritsky Semen Petrovich. Rod. 1898. Shot 1.08.1938.
50. Feldman Boris Mironovich. Rod. 1890. Shot on 12.06.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.
51. Fesenko Dmitry Semenovich. Rod 1895. Shot in October 1937.
52. Hakhanyan Grigory Davydovich. Rod. 1895. Shot February 23.02.1939, XNUMX.
53. Khripin Vasily Vladimirovich. Rod. 1893. Shot on 29.07.1938/XNUMX/XNUMX.
54. Tchaikovsky Kassian Alexandrovich Rod. 1893. Shot on July 10.07.1938, XNUMX.
55. Eideman Robert Petrovich. Rod. 1895. Shot on 12.06.1937/XNUMX/XNUMX.

Then there are one and a half hundred division commanders and more than 300 brigade commanders, army commanders and marshals - “little things”...

[mechanic33]

Quote: Company 8

16. Gorbachev Boris Sergeevich. Rod. 07.08.1892. Shot on July 3.07.1937, XNUMX.

just like that.....

and to be precise and without humor:

There was a deputy. Commander of the Moscow Military District. Arrested on May 3.5.1937, XNUMX as commander of the troops of the Ural Military District in based on the testimony of M.N. Tukhachevsky, V.M. Primakov and B.M. Feldman as an active participant in the “military-fascist conspiracy in the Red Army”

[8 company]

Quote: mechanic33

and to be precise and without humor:

There was a deputy. Commander of the Moscow Military District. Arrested on May 3.5.1937, XNUMX as commander of the troops of the Ural Military District based on the testimony of M.N. Tukhachevsky, V.M. Primakov and B.M. Feldman as an active participant in the “military-fascist conspiracy in the Red Army”

Never mind the conspiracy, in which almost the entire senior command staff of the Red Army participated. It would have been much more logical to accuse Dzhugashvili, Yezhov, Kaganovich, Voroshilov and Mehlis of conspiracy. And to the wall of them. Look, the Germans would not have reached the Volga.

[Alexander 1958]

For 8 companies -5 columns
You write... my father is an engineer... and, as I understand it, you yourself graduated from a military school? Yes, the Soviet government treated you cool! And why do you love her? And if it’s not a secret, but your grandfather couldn’t tear himself away from his plow like the majority of the people or the owner of factories, newspapers, ships?... If so, then a lot becomes clearer...

[8 company]

Quote: Alexander 1958

For 8 companies -5 columns
You write... my father is an engineer... and, as I understand it, you yourself graduated from a military school? Yes, the Soviet government treated you cool! And why do you love her? And if it’s not a secret, but your grandfather couldn’t tear himself away from his plow like the majority of the people or the owner of factories, newspapers, ships?... If so, then a lot becomes clearer...

For Alexander 1958 - Georgian-Jewish Russophobe.
Tell me, Alexander, do you blow the dust off the portraits of the executioners of the Soviet and mostly Russian people - Dzhugashvili, Beria, Mehlis and Kaganovich every day? And if it’s not a secret, did you get the portraits from your grandfather? If so, a lot becomes clearer...

[Popandopulo]

This is possible, but only without Putin!

[Dmitrich92]

Well, dear ladies and gentlemen, our population, first of all, if we don’t reduce it, we ourselves won’t allow it, and the world too, because everyone will die without Russia, and as for I.V. Stalin, he is the greatest ruler of all times and peoples, but we ourselves elected Putin, so we need to look for the problem within ourselves and not say that someone advised us to die and that finally, a torn Russia will not be able to exist either on its own or in another state!!!

[Alekseev]

Intensity of passions... Up to threats of physical violence
But the question is quite simple. the relatively recent past of our Motherland.
It has been studied, declassified and there are still living witnesses...
Was there terror organized by Stalin? There was, and besides the guilty, many innocent people suffered, that’s a fact. I wonder what the apologists of Joseph Vissarionovich would have screamed if one of them had been sent to Kolyma by mistake, instead of an “ardent” corrupt official, or due to the “tense political situation” for 10 years? At the request of comrades, so to speak It is generally accepted (among normal people) that it was repression that led to unjustified casualties and enormous defeats.
But there were also great achievements and victories under Stalin, this is also an undoubted historical fact.
It seems to me that now, instead of bickering,
each of us must try to make our “feasible contribution” so that repressions do not happen again, and great victories and achievements are once again present in our history.

[khoma nickson]

Under Stalin does not mean thanks to Stalin. There was the unspent capital of the ancestors, there was the enthusiasm and dedication of the vast masses of the population, there was the patriotism and love of the people of the old intelligentsia (Paton), there were gigantic resources conquered by the tsars, there was peace for 19 years, not counting the rather minor skirmishes in the East. But repression, wild collectivization, bureaucratization, fear and violence have crippled the country so much that “to this day we are still responsible for the universal father, and the dispute has been going on for decades, with no end in sight.
No matter how hard our Stalinists - by the way, quite small in number and unconvincing - practice in their chanting and praising the Father of the Nations, fortunately, there is no inevitability in the return of those times. The people are no longer the same - gullible, illiterate, believing fairy tales about a bright future without God, without freedom, without property, the ruling class is no longer the same - ready to put its neck under the ax of a fanatic and maniac, the world is no longer the same - too compact, interdependent and transparent, And the times are not the same - dictatorships and tyranny are a useless answer to the problems facing humanity. And no amount of ritual will bring back those times!

[Alexander 1958]

For Alexei
Good afternoon Your phrase..”each of us should try to make our “feasible contribution” so that repressions do not happen again, and great victories and achievements are once again present in our history.... I have no objections - just a question. With whom will we be friends and against whom?
If you noticed, such authors as 8th company, bison,
khoma nickson and others stubbornly avoid the topic of Stalin's achievements. They only want to discuss crimes. I think this suggests that such people do not need all this. They do not need the achievements of not only Stalin, but also the achievements in modern Russia. Although we may understand achievements differently. It is possible for them to achieve a fucking pissi riot in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. This is freedom of expression! And the fact that tens of millions of people live spending 80 percent of their earnings on food is normal! The main thing is that it complies with market principles. and that these people have the opportunity to express themselves.! When I argue with these people, I defend not so much the Stalinist past as my future. They want to deprive us of guidelines of what is good and what is bad so that we or our children will think that a coven of homosexuals in Kyiv or Moscow is a more important achievement than space flight. And if you noticed, they don't offer anything. ! Because there is nothing to offer! People do not accept this wild capitalism where everyone is for himself and against everyone else, and there is nothing more to offer. , Only blame Stalin for his mistakes and crimes while hushing up his achievements. These people are similar to each other with a cocktail of hatred and fear in their souls. Hatred for our past, and fear for our future 1
With uv. Alexander 1958.

[loc.bejenari]

How much do you think people spent on food under their beloved leader?
especially the collective farmers - whom I paid with chopsticks
My wife's mother ate a white bun for the first time at the age of 17
and my grandmother took all the silver from my grandfather’s sabers to Torgsin to buy decoys for my little mother (and they were an officer’s family)
and about great achievements, they are literally on the bones of millions
and what achievements - a thoroughly militarized country with tens of thousands of unnecessary tanks and impoverished people

[khoma nickson]

Logic, Alexander, ironclad. Since they are discussing Stalin’s crimes, it means they are Russophobes, for the covens of homosexuals and Pussy Riot, against everything good, and for everything bad. A cocktail of hatred and fear, there is no reverence for Stalin - for sure, enemies of the people. Out of nowhere, such wise conclusions! Just a clairvoyant and soul expert! And little does it occur to us that thanks to these “achievements” of Joseph Vissarionovich, we now have, to a large extent, what we have!

[Alekseev]

In general I agree with you. Stalin's time is extremely ambiguous. There are moments (repressions) that cannot be accepted.
But what you wrote about modern realities is true, unfortunately, true.
What does it mean to “make your contribution”? This, in my opinion, is trying to live according to your conscience. Try not to take bribes or give, vote correctly, be principled, don’t let yourself be fooled by the media, be kinder to people, etc.... So, drop by drop, water wears away the stone, you see, society and the country will become better (countries) Naive reasoning? Maybe, but what to do?

[MI-AS-72]

Stalinism you say, repressions, they wore the same clothes, you say? We're building, right? Were you so hungry that the wind shook you? My dear compatriots, lift your butt off your chair and look for family albums. Look into them and peer into the faces of your ancestors who lived in that era that you call “totalitarianism”. Look into those eyes. Are these the eyes of gray slaves, overwhelmed by life? Are these unfortunate victims of the regime? Absolutely everything - education, medicine, science, culture, industry (or rather, its remnants, unfinished over the past 20 years) was created by them. Maybe it's not about them, but about you? Maybe you lost something important by exchanging it for “Dom-2” and “Comedy Club”? By disparagingly throwing out the word “Stalinist,” you humiliate not only your ancestors and your country, but also yourself. And if you don't respect yourself, who will respect you? The one who does something great himself becomes great, and not the one who tramples on the greatness of his ancestors.

“So, I’ll summarize. Without Comrade Stalin, you will remain beggars who will stand like nothing all your life. And Comrade Stalin will not persuade you to work well today so that your children can live well tomorrow. You will work, because otherwise you will die, and if you try to deceive the system, you will die even faster, because parasitism (the desire to live well now at the expense of children and grandchildren) will be a criminal offense. And I, Comrade Stalin, will not respect the “sacred rights of monkeys,” because only people have rights, and you are the raw material from which, with some effort, people can turn into people. If some of the raw materials go to waste in the process, that’s fine with me. I have a dream - to build a society of people who do not live for the sake of eating, shitting, fucking, as is customary in your monkey troop, but who have purely human incentives, experiencing happiness from creativity and creation, and not from consumption and the most of their own kind. »
Not mine, but I’ll probably agree.

[khoma nickson]

What is greatness? In a gigantic mass of tanks, cannons, machine guns, airplanes and other weapons. In giant factories that poisoned the country and sucked all the juice out of the people who worked for armaments. In barracks, communal apartments, huts, lack of toilets, running water and heating even in cities? Education, science, culture, cut off from the whole world, under the yoke of ideology, censorship, Agitprop? Among those shot, who went through the Gulag for having ears of corn, for a careless word, for acquaintance or relationship with an “enemy of the people” like Rokossovsky or Korolev? In a muzzled, passportless, state-fortress village? What do the ancestors, Dom-2 and Comedy Club have to do with it? From hatred of thieves and slaughter to climb into the arms of bloodsuckers and villains?! And everyone’s ancestors are different. Who planted and who trembled, who was silent and who guarded, who led and who worked, who praised and who plowed. Including on myself, after the war.

[loc.bejenari]

why only for spikelets - there was also such a Jesuitical - 500 meters of sewing material
7 years in prison for stealing a bobbin of thread

[8 company]

Quote: MI-AS-72

Without Comrade Stalin, you will remain beggars who stand with cancer all your life

Something emerges from the specific psychology of the Stalinists. That is, without a brutal leader, they stand like nothing and feel like raw materials, and as soon as such a leader appears, they straighten up, get a buzz and become human. Hard case. I don’t know what psychologists call it, but it’s definitely a clinic.

[tixij]

+100.strongly stated

[8 company]

Quote: Alekseev

each of us must try to make our “feasible contribution” so that repressions do not happen again, and great victories and achievements are once again present in our history.

So, according to the Stalinists, their feasible contribution is a new large-scale hunt for “enemies of the people.” They write about it directly. For example, just in this thread:

OdinPlys (5) Today, 08:04 ↑ ↓ 2 Quote: Magadan
There is only one way out - we all just try to live and judge according to our conscience, and then, God willing, we will cleanse ourselves of scum.
There is only one way out....destroy the entire fifth...fascist-Zionist column.

denis29_82 Yesterday, 18:08 ↓ 0 Still, the Internet is a thing. All sorts of comrades who are not our comrades enthusiastically write and write sentences for themselves on all sorts of Moscow echoes and other contacts. There is no need to even calculate the bulk of these alternatively gifted people. The only question is what to do with them when the hour comes. Go straight to the wall or redeem with blood the chance to leave. So there will be Stalinization, so to speak, on new technological tracks.

bubla5 (1) Yesterday, 14:30 ↑ ↓ 1 Yes, even now I would be happy to compile such a list for execution in any large bank or company.

I went through the topic a little, found 3 calls for mass murder, too lazy to look further. So your calls to reason obviously will not reach everyone; the law must be applied against these types. And there is such a law:
Art. 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Public calls for terrorist activities or public justification of terrorism” - up to four years in prison, Art. 208 “Public calls for extremist activities” - up to three years and Art. 282 “Inciting hatred or enmity - from two to five years (the maximum punishment under this article is precisely provided for the commission of a crime by an organized group.

Everything is strictly according to the law: did you call? Called. Handcuffs, under arms and in a cell, strictly observe rights, lawyer, investigation, fair and humane trial - we don’t live under Stalin. The only way.

[Alexander 1958]

For 8 companies -5 columns
Why did you write me down as a Georgian-Jewish Russophobes? My passport says Russian, even though I was born and live in Dneprodzerzhinsk. My father and grandfather are Russians from the Oryol region... I treat Russia no worse than Ukraine... I see its great past and believe in its future! , but I understand that living next to such a country is sometimes a blessing, and sometimes not... This is in relation to Russophobia. A
regarding Georgian-Jewishness.. In my opinion, you have already run out of arguments in the dispute and you are moving on to nationalities.. Like.. well, how can a Jew or a Georgian be right!... How can he! And Belarusians can also be right and wrong; this has nothing to do with nationality. And about photographs - I don’t have any photographs of the leaders. Even Brezhnev is not there, even though he is my fellow countryman. And I have a balanced attitude towards Stalin, if you remember my posts...
And I don’t paint everything black, but I see successes and achievements and not through gritted teeth like you..." It seems that there were achievements, such as military aviation and astronautics, but I agree that the system as a whole was ineffective.".. ., and I’m proud of it! And I am grateful to my parents and grandfathers that they built this!
And I scold myself for falling for false promises in the 90s, thinking that things couldn’t get any worse. It turns out it happens!
Returning to my question about your grandparents... Let's be frank for frankness! I told you about my roots, now it’s your turn. Maybe then the reason for your naked anti-Stalinism-anti-Sovietism will become clearer....

[8 company]

Quote: Alexander 1958

For 8 companies -5 columns
Why did you write me down as a Georgian-Jewish Russophobes? The passport says Russian

For Alexander 1958 - Georgian-Jewish Russophobe.
You, in my opinion, are a strange person. You call me the “5th Column” only because I sincerely feel sorry for the huge mass of people who suffered from the actions of various figures of the Bolshevik Party, and I speak about this directly and openly. And yet you don’t understand why I called you a “Georgian-Jewish Russophobe.” What do not you understand? The mass destruction of the Russian, Soviet and, first of all, Russian people was carried out by Ulyanov-Blank (1/4 Jewish), Trotsky-Bronstein, Dzhugashvili-Stalin, Kaganovich, Mehlis, Beria. Wherever you point - a Jew or a Georgian. So what if you are Russian by nationality? Vlasov was also Russian, and come on, he became a traitor. In my opinion, you are not far behind him if you justify the monstrous crimes of the Lenin-Stalin period.

One of my grandfathers fought in a partisan detachment, then in the active army, and died near Berlin. The second was taken from the village in 1937 by order of NKVD 00447 as the former son of a kulak, and did not return from the camp. Both are Belarusians. Has anything become clearer for you?

[khoma nickson]

Alas, Alexander, our fathers and grandfathers built, and now we are paying the price. For GNP with 30% of the military-industrial complex, for 2/3 of the budget for military needs, for the breakdown of the people's strength, for the muzzled village, for the ruined culture and memory of the people. Fathers and grandfathers did not know much, they naively believed in something else, they lived in a bright future and promises of power. We need to be smarter and not glorify tyrants and villains and their actions, because it was we who were affected by their consequences.

[loc.bejenari]

there is no future with such an attitude towards the past
I can understand the so-called VETERANS OF THE RED CIRCLE (I didn’t come up with it, but Solonin)
they lived their lives under socialism - they went to party meetings and read the central press and the Communist magazine - so it’s difficult to expect anything else from them
I can’t understand 25 year olds - how I understood the bulk of local Stalinophiles
have they really been so brainwashed to prepare the idea - Volodya for the kingdom, that they don’t understand anything at all?
although from the fact that here people are discussing with foam at the mouth something like the Chinese wall built by the Russians, there is nothing to be surprised about

[khoma nickson]

In another post I tried to give a typology of young Stalinists:
1. Mythological consciousness, fascinated by legends about supposedly great achievements, unprecedented breakthroughs, a happy and cloudless life, continuous progressive development, etc.
2. “Eternally womanish in the soul of the people” - longing for “order,” a strong hand, like-mindedness and uniformity, “Nietzscheanism for the poor.”
3. Dissatisfaction with the current personal situation and status, a desire for equality in poverty and “all slaves are equal in slavery” - echoes of autocracy, serfdom and the peasant community.
4. Rejection of the current mess, corruption, dirt and vulgarity - “even if it’s worse, it’s better.”
I don’t pretend to be complete or scientifically rigorous, but in the statements of our Stalinists these topics often just jump out at you.

[Magadan]

Alexander1958! I fully support it.

8th company! There is no need to mix the Leninist guard with Stalin. Stalin dealt with the Leninist guard, with all these Trotskys, Bukharins and other internationalist perverts.
You yourself should see from history how the thinking of the entire people changes from international к national state!
Lenin shed oceans of blood, but for some reason no one in the West criticizes him! They blame Stalin, and believe me, not for blood, but for the restoration of Russia (USSR), its victories, achievements and the withdrawal of our country almost in first place in terms of influence and power!
Yes, under Stalin there were innocent prisoners, but how many are there now?
Yes, they dispossessed them, but what other way out was there when a LOT of food was needed by a SMALL number of peasants (the peasants had to become workers) industrializationto then win the war!
Stalin did not have time at all to develop gradually; we could not wait then for “the market to regulate everything itself” and for a “democratic society” to build a strong country on its own. The USSR, like the USA, could not sit overseas, and fighting Hitler was simply an unrealistic task!
In short, if there had been no Stalin, in the end the USA itself and the rest of the “world community” would not have existed. And if I’m wrong, then why couldn’t they cope with Japan for 4 years? With Japan, which we defeated in a month in 1939 (Khalkin-Gol), and in 1945 they even staged a beating of a Japanese kindergarten on the hills of Manchuria!
At least compare the facts sometimes, and don’t just remember the “poor repressed”. In general, sometimes I just trudge, so let’s remember the rulers of the mid-20th century:
1. Hitler - no comment. At least they recognize him as a tyrant
2. Mussolini - how many people did he exterminate?
3. Japanese Emperor - millions of Chinese were simply slaughtered for no reason at all!
4. The President of the USA - why the hell did he throw nuclear bombs on an already defeated Japan? He couldn’t ask us, we could have killed the Japs in a couple of weeks without any bombs?!
5. Churchill - endless meanness, tried to incite everyone against the USSR, persuaded the US President to drop a nuclear bomb on the USSR. It was with Cheryl's speech that the Cold War began! And who organized the “Munich Agreement”, marking the beginning of Hitler’s aggression?
Everything is known by comparison, so Stalin with his “purges” is just a lamb compared to any other ruler of that time!

[8 company]

Quote: Magadan

1. Hitler - no comment. At least they recognize him as a tyrant
2. Mussolini - how many people did he exterminate?
3. Japanese Emperor - millions of Chinese were simply slaughtered for no reason at all!
4. The President of the USA - why the hell did he throw nuclear bombs on an already defeated Japan? He couldn’t ask us, we could have killed the Japs in a couple of weeks without any bombs?!
5. Churchill - endless meanness, tried to incite everyone against the USSR, persuaded the US President to drop a nuclear bomb on the USSR. It was with Cheryl's speech that the Cold War began! And who organized the “Munich Agreement”, marking the beginning of Hitler’s aggression?
Everything is relative

I am shocked by the logic of the Stalinists. That is, in the world other peoples have, relatively speaking, //ovnyuks. Thus, ours must definitely be a //ovnyuk - after all, everyone is like that! Here is such a logical connection. But our //ovnyuk is definitely cooler, because we are, like, patriots! And about the fact that Stalin differs from other prominent Bolshevik revolutionaries is also very cool. That is, he did not participate in the revolution, nor in the Civil War; he wanted to prevent collectivization, dispossession and famine, but they did not let him, and he learned about the repressions from newspapers by chance right before his death. Conclusion: our //ovnyuk is the whitest and fluffiest!

[Fox 070]

Quote: Company 8

I am shocked by the logic of the Stalinists.

[khoma nickson]

And Lenin is criticized no less in the West, Ilyich just had less time - revolution, civil revolution, paralysis and complete inaction. What was the first place in influence and power? And who were they going to fight with in 1929? And why did this industrialization not take off in 1941? The beating of the Japanese kindergarten took place after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, with our overwhelming technical and numerical superiority, since all of Japan's forces were spent on the war at sea against the United States. Mussolini did not become famous for any large-scale repressions, Hitler did not destroy his own people, only Pol Pot can be placed next to Joseph Vissarionovich, but this Marxist, and the most consistent one, fought against the alienation of man by eliminating commodity production. Why, in the struggle for industrialization and power, scientists, inventors, designers, production organizers, engineers and technicians, military leaders and commanders were destroyed and imprisoned - it is impossible to understand!

[tixij]

you are still a historian. and the American Marine Corps took the Reichstag. PEARL OF SMALL MIND. The Japanese drove all their tanks into the sea to fight with the amers, ours just rode through the Khingan like a breeze and in vain they are credited with victory.

[Muravyov]

In general, I agree that Stalin saved the country, but the author has a too simplified view of the 20s. Everything was not so clear. The Bolsheviks were not the force that pulled the country into the shackles of slavery. They had a project, and they essentially carried out a post-catastrophe assembly after the liberals ruined the country after February 17th. Hence all the hardships of their situation - the Brest-Litovsk Treaty, the civil war, and partially lost economic sovereignty. It is a myth to say that the country’s weakness arose due to the conscious actions of the Bolsheviks!
It is a pity that now this time is covered rather poorly in historical literature. We live between two myths about that time - between the Soviet myth and the liberal one. We now lack historical truth like air. And such simplifications only further confuse the minds of ordinary people. We need academic research, not tabloid stuff.

[khoma nickson]

I agree, we need objective, strictly scientific, impartial research, in the spirit of Pushkin’s Nestor: “so the old clerk, gray-haired in orders, listening indifferently to good and evil, calmly looks at the right and the guilty, knowing neither pity nor anger.” But even the most unscientific and academic research will not convince the bearers of mythological consciousness!
Liberals in February 17th were the last in the twentieth century to raise the banner of freedom and human dignity, appealed to duty, honor, patience, but the war-torn country was closer to the slogans of peace at any cost, class revenge, robbery and pogroms. Of course, given the real situation, it was idealism, but a noble one. The realism of the Bolsheviks still haunts us to this day.

[Muravyov]

But even the most unscientific and academic research will not convince the bearers of mythological consciousness!
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Alas, your example clearly demonstrates this. :( But, judging by your rating, there are not so many like you, which is undoubtedly encouraging.

Liberals in February 17th were the last in the twentieth century to raise the banner of freedom and human dignity, appealing to duty, honor, patience
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Aha-ha-ha... Thanks, I laughed. It was probably a duty of honor that forced them to overthrow the king? You have a curious idea of ​​honor.

The realism of the Bolsheviks still haunts us to this day.
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Agree. It was the realism of the Bolsheviks that today’s liberals have eaten up over the past 20 years, and they, of course, are suffering from “overeating.” But even such a gigantic legacy left to us by the “damned” Bolsheviks does not last forever. And now we need to either urgently look for a new Lenin and Stalin, or sit in a corner and die quietly. Thanks to your “freedom-loving, honest and faithful” liberals for this!

[khoma nickson]

Everything was mixed up in Muravyov’s house. It’s not a sin to laugh right, but to laugh without a reason... Liberals have never been monarchists and fought against autocracy even under the tsar. They appealed to the honor of the nation, to the continuation of military operations and the fulfillment of allied duty. What does this have to do with liberals 17 and today, who have nothing in common with liberalism, whatever you call them?! No one is going to sit quietly in a corner and die quietly: people live, work, give birth to children, build houses. If your personal life is not going well, what does “us” have to do with it?! What is the legacy of the Bolsheviks? Siberia with oil and gas was conquered under Grozny, the Baltic states and Finland left under the Bolsheviks, we have been buying bread in America since 1963, and now we are exporting it. There are few people like me here, but in the country there are many more of us than stubborn Stalinists and illiterate Leninists.

[understudy]

I'll be short and fair...
Long live the Great Stalin! And let those who doubt his greatness die in severe torment.
This is me in a friendly manner, no one from the liberal trash was offended?

[khoma nickson]

In no way - they don’t take offense at those offended by God!

[tixij]

Now you decide who is offended by GOD and who is not? It’s fraught. Take the burden with you.

[sdf34edfghgh]

What is being done with the country where the authorities are looking?
I accidentally stumbled upon a site to search for people x.co/ldLf
Here you can find information about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries.
I'm really scared - twist like that any nit-picking can come in and see.
Addresses, best friends, relatives, above all, for example, there are my photos, phone number.
It’s good that you can delete, find your page - pass the check and delete
And then there is nobody who is looking for ...

[Syrdon]

My opinion is this - in the 30s, Stalin encountered a fifth column which he destroyed, now we are confronted with it, and preferably, before it is too late to eradicate it too. But the Swamps are not the main enemies of our country. The main enemies are bribe takers. It is they, the corrupt officials, who are dragging our Motherland down and preventing it from rising. It is they who spread rot on small and medium-sized businesses, which are the locomotive of the economy all over the world; it is they who every ordinary person has to deal with, and it is for this reason that dissatisfaction with the authorities is brewing among the people. The time has come when delay is like death, and in our case, corrupt officials must be burned out with a hot iron, because they are the main enemies of the people and the country at this stage.

[khoma nickson]

I understand that freedom of thought and opinion, speech, self-expression, criticism and opposition is not to your liking, whoever is not with us is against us, but it is in such an atmosphere that a fertile environment for corruption, bribery, bureaucratic arbitrariness and bungling is born. There is practically no hope that the new Stalin and his cronies will cope with corruption and bribery and at the same time open the way for small and medium-sized (private) businesses. Rather, it’s the Singaporean model, but where can we get so many Chinese?

[Syrdon]

I am not against freedom of speech, criticism and everything else, this is more than enough now. I am against it when all this develops into a direct threat to the existence of the state. There are certain limits and you should not go beyond them. This is true all over the world, not just here. Let us remember the beginning of “perestroika” there, which also began under the slogans of freedom of speech, human rights, etc., etc., and ended with the collapse of civil war throughout the entire territory of the former USSR. Millions of ruined destinies and lives, a lost production base, a destroyed economy. Devaluation of human life, when there can be no talk of any rights.
Today, poorly, poorly, we have managed to keep, at least Russia, from complete decline. Attempts are being made to restore what was previously destroyed, but all this is met with active opposition. External players do not need a strong Russia, and internal rotten officials and regional kings do not need it either. It is not the current government that has pleased the bribe-takers, these are echoes of the 90s, a regurgitation of “perestroika,” but it is precisely this that should burn them out. This is her mission, if this is done on time, then everything else will progress.

[khoma nickson]

Maybe it is not perestroika that is to blame, but the absence for 70 years of freedom of speech, criticism, open struggle of opinions, democratic mechanisms for discussing and solving emerging problems? Problems were pushed deeper, ignored, there was only praise and verbiage, and then the boiler exploded. And the economy collapsed back in the early 70s, oil came to the rescue for a while. Or do you think the economy of the 70s and early 80s was healthy and strong?! And who created such borders in the USSR that conflicts and wars began? Perestroika? What is met with active opposition? Corruption, theft, lack of rights, cuts and kickbacks, bribes, raiding, bureaucratic lawlessness, and not attempts to restore what was destroyed or keep Russia from complete decline. And how will the current government burn out bribe-takers if it consists of them?

[icecat]

YES, Stalin, did a lot, a lot for EVERYONE!!!! Not only for Russians!!! We must understand perfectly well that without such a personality, all Russian-speaking people with a Slavic appearance will soon (in 20 years, in my opinion) get f..a! I’m not a racist or a fascist, but I’m offended to see how the Slavic brothers (Russians and Ukrainians) want to rip each other’s throats out for nonsense, while the “Chukhons” are forgiven everything. Ugh, it's disgusting to look at this. So let’s eat less (we’ll lose weight), work more (everyone needs physical exercise), dress more simply (we’ll toughen up), but let the great-grandchildren look like the Slavs in appearance and speak Russian, and don’t bow to the Amers and limes - let Stalinization go on.

[loc.bejenari]

well, go to North Korea for another month
what is the problem
you will live under your beloved leader together with the people striving for the common good
lose weight

[Syrdon]

North Korea now looks more like a totalitarian Kim Jong sect than a communist state. This has nothing to do with the USSR. Better pay attention to China, and even better to Cuba, but it seems that not everything is so wonderful there in terms of consumer goods, but there is the best medicine in Latin America, the best resorts and people without hysterics, who understand perfectly well that their independence is only possible With such a state structure, especially, it seems to me that they are starting to follow the Chinese option.

[khoma nickson]

Yes, Latin America is a criterion for the quality of medicine. And the resorts in Cuba were created by the people's power, not by natural conditions.

[Magadan]

Quote: Company 8

That is, in the world other peoples have, relatively speaking, //ovnyuks

Not just //ovnyuks, but who destroyed people without any sense. What was the need to bomb Jeroshima and Nagasaki? Did the Japanese stop the war later? If Stalin is to blame for the repressions, then at least it was a sacrifice necessary for the country!
Imagine, 10 years from now there is a war, and you have no weapons or factories. What will you do? Personally, I will begin to create a class of highly skilled workers and inventors. I will encourage the workers in every possible way and humiliate the “medical workers”, “lawyers” and “financiers” in every possible way, because I URGENTLY need everyone to rush to become workers and engineers! I won’t have time to wait until people there lose their senses! And if time is really short, I will do everything to make them AFRAID of being “managers”, “lawyers”, etc.
So, the current “managers” are the FISTS of that time. Only it was even more dramatic - COLLECTIVE FARMS were needed, because... 10 peasants with 1 tractor is a hundred times more food than 1000 peasants with horses! And the peasants must turn URGENTLY into workers. What to do? How can peasants be forced to become workers? Especially when each of them dreams of becoming a fist. No, he really doesn’t do anything to become a kulak, he just drinks vodka and fantasizes about this topic, but he neither becomes a kulak nor goes to the collective farm! Just like now - a lot of guys dream of becoming oligarchs, so they don’t go to work. But they just drink, somehow get by and fantasize about the future.
So Stalin accelerated the process. As a result, we got factories, and the kulaks went to Siberia. Not because they were bad people, but because at that timeand they set a bad example!
I repeat - Stalin did not have time to wait. He said that “our industry is 50-100 years behind developed countries, but we must eliminate this lag in 10 years.” And the country under his leadership this backlog was destroyed!
That is, if there were repressions, they were justified! How do you justify Hitler? Churchill? Mussolini? Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Massacre of Chinese at the behest of the Japanese Emperor?
We, Russians, even saved the world from Hitler with our sacrifices, and for this we are insulted in every possible way in the West, as if it were the Americans who were in the Gulags!
As for whether Stalin was a “revolutionary” or not, just judge by his deeds. He recreated a national sovereign state free from internationalists-common people. Portraits of Suvorov, Kutuzov, etc. were returned with him. Under him, the persecution of the Orthodox Church stopped. With him, the royal shoulder straps and other royal regalia were returned. All these are indirect signs that at heart he was not even close to a revolutionary. But he simply could not openly declare what was really going on in his soul.
In your words, I will say - yes, he was a very good person! I just couldn't afford to be "soft and fluffy." A bad person would not sit under bombings in Moscow, would not deprive himself of sleep, would not be essentially an ascetic (you yourself know that he had nothing but a jacket and a couple of suits)

[khoma nickson]

Cool. “He only saw Magadan on the map, and he thinks - may God forgive him - that a prison is better than a booth. He thinks that only general fear can correct general failure, and that it’s time to put those who are not worth it in general against the wall queues." And when did the Japanese emperor give the order to surrender?
Stalin also turns out to be a great clairvoyant. I foresaw the war 10 years in advance! No one was awake or in spirit - but he got through! And how accurately everything was calculated: peasants, tractors and the amount of food! 10 peasants with a tractor are equal to one hundred thousand peasants with horses! The paragraph is complete! And kulak labor from dawn to dusk can only give a bad example of drunkenness and idleness! By the way, Hitler and I were inseparable for two years and didn’t save anyone until he himself attacked us. And we weren’t the only ones saving the world. And when did Joseph Vissarionovich open his soul? Already in 1941, when it was so tight that Marx could no longer save him. And a kind of asceticism - all my life in one jacket. No housing, no food, no car, no plane - naked as a falcon.

[afire]

I try not to engage in provocations, I always analyze the situation and sometimes I trust the authorities. I adore Russia and if some kind of crap starts, I will beat anyone for it and the whole newspaper and Internet mess is not able to change my opinion.
here you go

[Temer]

Minus article. Some kind of nonsense.

[tribeski]

“When I die, they’ll put a lot of garbage on my grave,
but the wind of time will ruthlessly sweep it away ”(IV Stalin)

[MI-AS-72]

Top secret.

State Defense Committee
Decision No. GOKO-4322ss of October 13, 1943
Moscow Kremlin.

On the draft for military service of draftees born in 1926

The State Defense Committee decides:

1. To oblige an NPO (i.e. Smorodinova) to call up to military service all the male citizens born in 15 (including those who are in the territory freed from the enemy) by November 1943, 1926, regardless of their place of work or positions, except working enterprises of the NK Ammunition, NK Armament, NK Mortar weapons, NK Aviation industry, NK Tank industry, NK Coal industry, NK Oil industry, NK Ferrous metallurgy, NK Non-ferrous metallurgy, NK Power plants, NK Electrical industry, NK T heavy machinery, NK Machine-tool industry, NK Railways, NK Sea Fleet, NK River Fleet and Glavsevmorput, with qualifications of 3 categories and above.

Conscripts of local nationalities are not subject to draft: Uzbek, Tajik, Turkmen, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Georgian, Armenian and Azerbaijani Soviet Socialist Republics, Dagestan, Chechen-Ingush, Kabardino-Balkarian, North Ossetian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics and Adygea and Karachay, areas.

2. To oblige the Komvoiski of the Far Eastern Front (t. Purkayev) to allocate 1943 people for two months (November, December 100.000). trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and transfer to the replenishment of units of the army under the direction of the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

3. To oblige the Komvoiski of the Transbaikal Front (t. Kovaleva) to allocate 1943 people for two months (November, December 35.000). trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and transfer to the replenishment of units of the army under the direction of the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

4. To oblige the Komvoiski of the Transcaucasian Front to allocate 1943 people for two months (November, December 30.000). trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and to transfer to the replenishment of units of the army under the direction of the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

5. To oblige the Commander of the Artillery of the Red Army (Comrade Voronov) within two months (December 1943 and January 1944) to allocate 30.000 people from parts of the Western and Eastern air defense fronts and the Moscow special air defense army. trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and transfer to replenish the units of the army as directed by the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

6. To oblige the head of the Glavupraform, Comrade Smorodinov:

a) in exchange for the released rank and file and sergeant (paras. 2, 3, 4 and 5) to transfer until December 15, 1943: to the troops of the Far Eastern Front - 100.000 people, to the troops of the Transbaikal Front - 35.000 people, to the troops of the Transcaucasian Front - 30.000 people, 30.000 people in the Air Defense Forces, and a total of 195.000 conscripts born in 1926;

b) concentrate the rest of the conscripts born in 1926 in spare, training units and special schools, setting a six-month training period for them, prohibiting anyone from using them ahead of time to equip the units of the army.

7. To oblige the NKPS (Comrade Kaganovich) and the Chief of Logistics of the Red Army (Comrade Khrulev) to transport the contingents indicated in this resolution to the points and dates at the request of Commander of the Main Directorate of the Red Army Comrade Smorodinova.

CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE DEFENSE COMMITTEE I. STALIN

Sent so Molotov, Smorodinov, Zhukov, Kaganovich, Khrulev - that’s all. Chadayev - 1. Commanders of the Far East. front - 2, 6a - resp. Commander Zabaikalsk. front - 3, 6a - resp. Convoys of Transcaucasia. front - 4, 6a - resp. Voronov - 5, 6a - respectively.

Reason: RGASPI, 644 Foundation, inventory of 1, d.163, l.1-3.
This is such a “bloody” Stalin, and now remember who was called up for the 1st and 2nd Chechen war, and even 08-8, how many boys there were and who was worse.

[Heroes]

But for big things, we sometimes forget about the most important thing, about Our Children. In today's world, our children and youth are the most vulnerable link. They are more likely than adults to be adversely affected. And given that they often remain face to face with this world, it is clear that it is difficult for them to understand it, which hinders their full development. I think you with appreciation appreciate my offer. Here is what I want to offer: to organize a virtual youth community (movement) on the Internet. A community that could unite our youth around itself. Using the Internet, give them the opportunity to express themselves; about their talents and exploits; about personal, creative, sports achievements; about life hobbies. It can be anything if it is good, development and good. With the help of this community, we could instill in our youth feelings of patriotism and responsibility for our great country. Show them what is good and how to strive for it. To teach them to believe in themselves, in their strengths, in their country. If this project is made interesting and popular, that is, there are opportunities to improve the Education, Culture and Health Care of the People, and not only that, large spaces will open before us to improve all the qualities of the Russian Federation. I would like this movement, which I called the Heroes of Our Time, to be similar in nature and organization to the pioneer movement.

In the project, implement the following principles:
1. Establish the Heroes of Our Time Award. To award this prize to all those who, with their heroic deed, a good example, a brave decision, have done good for people and our country.
2. Create a social website Heroes of Our Time. So that this award is always covered on the Heroes of Our Time community site. The stories of these people were recorded in a kind of board of honor, forever. So that the country could know its Heroes in person and take an example from them.
3. The ability of each participant in the movement to nominate a candidate for the Heroes of Our Time Award. Using the GNV site, discuss and vote for the candidate.
4. In a separate directory, add files (dossiers, photos, videos) of those heroes who defended, released and worked for the good of Russia. Thus, pay tribute to them for their labors, and I repeat once again the country should know and remember its heroes.
5. The ability for everyone to register in this movement (community) to take full part in the life of the project.
6. The ability to each participant in the movement to show themselves; own interests, talents and exploits; personal, creative and sporting achievements; life hobbies to other community members who could take an example from them, learn from them, communicate with them. So that a positive example can be seen and spread.
7. The creation of this community will be able to help organize and realize the potential of active and proactive people.
8. The ability to organize competitions, contests, competitions, public events thereby developing and instilling cultural, educational and sports qualities.
9. Creating a database of all specialized circles, classes, special sections, clubs of interest in the Russian Federation. With ratings and user reviews.
10. Creating online help similar to telephone assistance where you can get real-time advice or psychological assistance on issues such as alcohol and drug addiction, tobacco addiction, for young people and adults.
11. Introduction of a system of likes for voting for or against a particular case (situation, candidacy).
12. An opportunity to organize such actions as community work days, or for example such action would be possible. I read that the share of clothing imports to Russia is 95 percent. These figures shocked me. Really in Russia do not know how to sew. What would happen if through the Internet with the help of the community to hold an action: what do our children, youth want to wear? Give the task to professional designers and everyone who wants to create sketches of clothing design. To publish all the sketches received and to select the best in an open vote, and to create a collection and a brand from them. This brand will produce high-quality and inexpensive clothes. What it will give: economic growth, additional jobs, quality goods. I think few would be against wearing clothes made in their country for their citizens, and thereby help her. I think you will agree with me.
13. Through this movement, each participant has the opportunity to apply with a request, wish, proposal, idea to all participants or certain responsible people for the possibility of realizing a particular case, action.
14. In this Internet space, create the Book of the Wise. Book of the Wise what is it? This is the section in which we can send proverbs, folk wisdom, statements of famous people, winged expressions in order to collect a true collection of knowledge. Imagine a book in which all the wisdom of generations will be collected ... Everyone will discover for himself something new in this book, expand knowledge and understanding of our world. Indeed, knowledge and experience for this exist to replenish and be passed on from generation to generation. I believe by putting together all the wisdom we can enrich our worldview, as well as the worldview of future generations.

Nowadays, we are living a difficult stage of human development. Many negative factors affect us. Man as a person and society is less and less a single whole. There is no necessary connection which should unite us. It is not easy for us alone to answer today's challenges. Therefore, I think and believe this idea, the initiative can positively affect our society. You know very well what effect social networks have, how many people on our planet, countries use them. The number of users is increasing every year. All popular social. Networks do not have any positive effects, except for communication and exchange of information. What I propose is a form of advertising using this movement. Advertisements of people who have positively realized themselves in this life, who will be set as an example to everyone and from whom we can learn. The creation and construction of the social youth movement Heroes of Our Time should exist for people who want to actively participate in the development of their country. A social. the network will help them coordinate, promote and positively influence this movement.

Think like Heroes and you will become them!

[ioann1]

As such, Stalinism is hardly possible, but as society liberalizes, the people will intensify their struggle to tighten power in relation to cosmopolitanism: dissent and bacchanalia. But this will be a different country, democratic on the basis of Orthodoxy. And for the most part, this is the choice of the Russian people themselves.

[Temer]

But under no circumstances should the church be allowed into power. Although everything is going that way. Religious subjects have already begun to be introduced in schools.

[Andrey77]

And what's wrong with that? Political economy (we remember everyone who studied at a USSR university) is nonsense of a similar taste.

[Temer]

But I don’t want my child’s head to be filled with all sorts of nonsense by overfed and overweight black-haired people who have long since laid down the device on the notorious 10 commandments.

[Uncle]

Quote: Temer

But I don’t want my child’s head to be filled with all sorts of nonsense by overfed and overweight black people

Which ones should score? Side-faced? In orange and with a tambourine? Blue-tolerant? Which ones are your favorite?

[valedol]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkfTq1oc308&feature=share

[Uncle]

Quote: Company 8

I am shocked by the logic of the Stalinists.

They are not Stalinists, but Ivans who don’t remember their kinship. If Stalin is dear to them, then so are the famine in the Crimea and the Volga region, the Civil War and the Red Terror. My family was on the list for extermination, my great-grandfather was imprisoned on Solovki, have you heard of ELEPHANT? My great-grandmother died of starvation during the siege. I won't forget this to the commies. And regarding the revival of Russia, John of Shanghai said that Russia will be reborn when faith flares up. I meant Orthodox. And personal advice to the 8th company: “don’t throw the pearls of your souls around the swine,” “don’t give it to the holy dogs.” In relation to polemics on the site, do not argue with incompetent and embittered people.

[Alexander 1958]

For 8 companies -5 columns
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Quote: Alexander 1958
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Why did you write me down as a Georgian-Jewish Russophobes? The passport says Russian



For Alexander 1958 - Georgian-Jewish Russophobe.
You, in my opinion, are a strange person. You call me the “5th Column” only because I sincerely feel sorry for the huge mass of people who suffered from the actions of various figures of the Bolshevik Party, and I speak about this directly and openly. And yet you don’t understand why I called you a “Georgian-Jewish Russophobe.” What do not you understand? The mass destruction of the Russian, Soviet and, first of all, Russian people was carried out by Ulyanov-Blank (1/4 Jewish), Trotsky-Bronstein, Dzhugashvili-Stalin, Kaganovich, Mehlis, Beria. Wherever you point - a Jew or a Georgian. So what if you are Russian by nationality? Vlasov was also Russian, and come on, he became a traitor. In my opinion, you are not far behind him if you justify the monstrous crimes of the Lenin-Stalin period.

One of my grandfathers fought in a partisan detachment, then in the active army, and died near Berlin. The second was taken from the village in 1937 by order of NKVD 00447 as the former son of a kulak, and did not return from the camp. Both are Belarusians. Has anything become clearer for you?

Yes, somehow there is a connection between the times: the grandfather is the son of a kulak, the father is dissatisfied with the Soviet regime, the son is an officer, at least a Komsomol member, or even a member of the CPSU, where they were not admitted by force, after 1991 he “received the light” and began to feel sorry for the mass of people destroyed by the authorities which he is obliged to defend in accordance with the oath... Yes, we can film the next episode of the film “Officers” about you!
And regarding the mass repressions due to which millions died, this is indeed true, but not the whole truth! You and others like you are using a propaganda technique - criticizing Stalinism and the Soviet regime for its crimes and mistakes, you completely hush up achievements, so you admit through gritted teeth..” well, maybe military aviation and space were good, but otherwise it sucks!.... "- your words?
And regarding my Georgian-Jewish Russophobia... Even if I were a Jew or Georgian, this does not mean a priori that I am wrong! And who destroyed whom more during the repressions... I recently went to the Magadan city website and dug up an interesting document. Number of repressed people as a percentage by nationality. Russians are approximately 50%, Jews - 11%, Ukrainians - 11%. Georgians are more than 1 percent. In another material - similar data from Georgians in relation to the population of the republic, 0,1% of Ukrainians -0,09% were repressed. As far as I know, there are about 1,5% of Jews in Russia now, and I think it was about the same then. So, it turns out that either the Jews had a civil war within their nationality... or they suffered the most from repression... And your statement about Georgian-Jewish Russophobia does not stand up to criticism by the facts.
Now I would like to respond to your passage about my almost betrayal. The fact that Vlasov is a traitor is beyond doubt, no matter what his motives were. Your pseudo-logical connection is that everyone who defends the Stalin-Soviet system is a traitor just like Vlasov. Do you even understand what nonsense you wrote? In your profile you wrote that you were an officer. I am sure that they took the oath, perhaps they were a member of the party... Let me remind you of the words from the oath... to be selflessly devoted to Soviet power, your people and the Soviet government.. Well, to what extent does your position here on the site correspond to the oath? Yes, I understand, life has changed, the USSR no longer exists, well, maybe at least in memory of what this state gave you, the education you wanted, and the job (to defend the Motherland) - which you wanted, you don’t need to lie, it’s good, what happened in this state. At the same time, I don’t want to encourage you to forget what you shouldn’t forget and forgive..., but still remember that it is easy to judge people who lived at a time when the whole world was against the USSR, and the civil war did not end in 1921, but most likely in 1938, or maybe not...
You write that you are motivated by pity for repressed people. And to everyone, or only to the innocent by today's standards? I would like to invite you to go to your profile and look at the number of downvotes on your posts.. I still think that your posts are needed on the site and you have the right to have and express your point of view, but it seems to me that you have enough grounds consider your point of view to be at least controversial, and at most not coinciding with what other site visitors think about it.
Alexander 1958

[khoma nickson]

It's called hit! And he remembered the grandfather of the kulak, and the oath, and the Jews who were repressed, and the disadvantages at the posts, but in essence - not a word. As with most of our Stalinists, there are no facts, no arguments, just pathos, slogans, rituals and personal attacks. Salt of the earth...

[Alexander 1958]

Good afternoon Where can I get the facts to refute Svanidze, 8th Company and others like him? Only the above-mentioned gentlemen have all the facts! And this is just my rant.. In fact, one cannot consider industrialization, victory in the war, the nuclear bomb and energy, space as a fact - these are really personal attacks and rants, but repressions, the Holodomor are really facts! The difference between my point of view and yours is precisely that I recognize all of the above as facts, and you only recognize the Holodomor and repressions...
Alexander 1958

[Alexander 1958]

For 8 companies-5 columns
Because on your part there was an accusation against me of almost betrayal. I suggest you try on the Vlasov uniform! After all, like you, they were against Stalin and Soviet power!
http://vk.com/photo-25008324_256002906
This is not a collage. and a real Vlasov poster! What the artist depicted on the poster is indicative. A lone Vlasovite (8th company) fights Stalin, supported by 3 people. It's all true! And on the poster, and on the website, and in life!

[Uncle]

Quote: Alexander 1958

For 8 companies-5 columns

I don’t agree that the 8th company is the 5th column, that is, a traitor. He is no less a patriot of Russia, he just does not revel in the achievements of the union, but talks about its problems, troubles, and crimes. Just as everything in the world is ambiguous, evil or good, so even in the Soviet Union there was a lot of positive. He knows about the positive; it is beyond the scope of consideration, as a matter of course and does not require proof or refutation. But Stalin is an ambiguous figure, which is why verbal battles flare up.

[Alexander 1958]

Good afternoon!
The fact that Stalin is a controversial figure is obvious and in my opinion this is not a topic for discussion - everyone agrees with this! Verbal battles flare up on another question, which is present latently - did the people and the country need it, and these are not identical concepts, what good did Stalin do and is the price of these achievements adequate? And another question. Was there another way and possibility of strengthening the country in the 10-12 years before the 1941 war? This issue is strenuously hushed up by all opponents of Stalin. There’s just no desire to discuss, that’s all! And to try to propose a way to industrialize in 10 years and prepare the country for a war that is on the threshold, no one will stoop to that. There is much more willingness and desire to discuss repression and the number of victims. But I am sure that such calculations make sense only in conjunction with the achievements that have taken place! Otherwise, this is a court in which only the prosecutor has the right to vote, and the defense is not given a chance to speak... But this is not the worst thing about the position of the 8th company. The worst thing is that by hushing up the achievements of our past, he is trying to deprive us of our future! I don’t want to say that Stalin in particular and the Soviet government in general are an ideal government! No! A lot had to be sacrificed, including millions of lives of both opponents of change and completely innocent people, but the main thing was done. The USSR ceased to be an object, but became a subject of world politics. And from the moment it acquired nuclear weapons, it became a superpower. It never occurred to anyone to try to declare the wealth of the USSR a world heritage, hinting that it would be nice to share or count the number of Russians who are not needed to service the raw materials economy and are superfluous at the celebration of life... Now they decide for us both for Ukraine and for Russia how we should live and how not to live!. Returning to the position of the 8th company, to keep silent about the achievements of the past - to convince people that behind only victims and repressions in the name of empty slogans. To ensure that people are afraid to look back, and if they look back, they will only see repression. This is necessary so that they do not have a desire to use the path indicated by Stalin to build a strong country and a fair society.
And as for the inner world of the 8th company, that it’s white and fluffy there... I haven’t heard a kind word from him about the USSR - only criticism! Although if you consider the phrase praise... well, military aviation and astronautics were at the level, and everything else sucks... then that’s your right.. I would like to emphasize the inner world of the 8th company, I’m not primarily concerned... convince younger site visitors that the USSR and Stalin were different! Not only the Repression, but also many achievements about which the 8th company stubbornly keeps silent. And if you assume that this is implied a priori, then I think I see no reason for this. At least I didn’t see such deviations in his posts.
With uv. Alexander 1958
P.S. I consider the exchange of opinions with you to be useful and constructive, but it seems to me that it makes sense to continue it if there are more people on this topic than you and me..

[Vitalievich]

No matter how banal it may sound... But I didn’t see anything new here.
Stalin was a man of that time. and without him the country would be in the same situation as it is today.
It’s a pity that there is no person willing to shoulder the responsibility (now).