BDK SF Mitrofan Moskalenko of the 1174 project sent for disposal

Big landing ship of the North fleet "Mitrofan Moskalenko" of project 1174 "Rhinoceros", which has been in reserve since 2002, was sent for disposal. This was reported by TASS with reference to an informed source.

8 May BDK in tow went from Severomorsk to Murmansk. Presumably, the ship will be dismantled at the 35 ship repair plant (a branch of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center, part of the USC).

BDK "Mitrofan Moskalenko" of project 1174 was laid down in 1984 and joined the fleet in 1990. In fact - this is a landing helicopter ship - the dock. With a displacement of 14 thousand tons, the ship could take on board up to 50 tanks PT-76, 80 armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles, as well as up to 120 trucks. Equipment could be loaded in any combination. The ship calmly accommodated up to 500 landing personnel. The BDKs of this project are the only ones who could carry up to 4 helicopters on the flight deck.


The project of a large amphibious assault ship of the ocean zone was developed in Nevsky PKB according to the terms of reference issued in 1964 year. However, due to the constant changes in the project, the first ship of the Ivan Rogov series went into operation only in 1978. In total, the 1174 ship was built according to the 3 project: in addition to the head ship, "Ivan Rogov," in 1982 and 1990, Alexander Nikolaev and Mitrofan Moskalenko, respectively, were introduced into the USSR Navy.

In 1996, the head "Ivan Rogov" was written off and disposed of, dismantled for scrap. BDK "Alexander Nikolaev" was written off from the fleet and mothballed in the 1997 year, and in 2002 the same fate befell the "Mitrofan Moskalenko." In the year 2014, after the refusal of France to transfer to the Russian Navy, two Mistral-type DCCDs were built at one time the question of a possible restoration of their technical readiness was considered, but this decision was never made.

Comments

[Vitalius Boniwur]

Externally, the photo looks normal, can it do without recycling? Such a handsome man! Sorry ...

[Santa Fe]

This is a photo of the beginning of 2000's.

[210ox]

The last "Rhino" will be sawed .. It's a pity.

[Uncle lee]

Saw when a lot and do not need! And here is one, the only one and it is very necessary!
More than strange, not in a businesslike way.

[Severok]

In our country, a state has been created where rulers and grabbers rule the ball. There is no master. There are opportunists and privatizers. All the epithets in my mouth to these fat swindlers in power are exclusively synonymous with swear words.

[donavi49]

There is still one - but there the main question is, he himself will gurgle from decay or have time to saw it. For the turn of the saw.

[Artemiy_2]

There, by the way, Lazarev is still standing (for now)

[Piramidon]

Quote: vitalij boniwur

Externally, the photo looks normal, can it do without recycling? Such a handsome man! Sorry ...

An acquaintance of mine was selling a "penny". He carefully sealed all through rusted holes with glass cloth and painted over. Looked like new too.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Piramidon

He carefully glued all the through rusted holes with fiberglass and painted over

It was also possible to foam the thresholds with foam. I looked at the branch on the airbase about 1174. They write that the equipment inside Mitrofan is dismantled or plundered. Of course, all the main experts gathered here, all the specialists here and everyone went to inspect this ship, studied what was left of it, and knew the state of affairs. But in the Moscow Region fools are sitting, they don’t see anything, they don’t hear anything, so they send the warship to the needles without even knowing how much the repair and its expediency will cost.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: Piramidon

He carefully glued all the through rusted holes with fiberglass and painted over

It was also possible to foam the thresholds with foam. I looked at the branch on the airbase about 1174. They write that the equipment inside Mitrofan is dismantled or plundered. Of course, all the main experts gathered here, all the specialists here and everyone went to inspect this ship, studied what was left of it, and knew the state of affairs. But in the Moscow Region fools are sitting, they don’t see anything, they don’t hear anything, so they send the warship to the needles without even knowing how much the repair and its expediency will cost.

At that time, foam was still not available. But the epoxy was worth a penny.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

The video found on Mitrofan 2013 of the year and the comments of the sailors who served on it. Here's the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKzj3vVOR4k

[210ox]

Of course, no fools are sitting. Who would argue ... Only the GWP regularly conducts cases of embezzlement and fraud ...

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

And in the Moscow Region fools are sitting, they don’t see anything, they don’t hear anything, therefore they send the warship to the needles without even knowing how much the repair and its expediency will cost.

My main question is: why do our ships have such a short service life? Is 12 years old for a ship?

[Rzzz]

In commercial shipping, the amortization period of a ship is exactly 12 years. That is, for 12 years of work, he must repay his price (or pay off a leasing loan). Naturally, these 12 years, also working in profit, giving a certain percentage for depreciation.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: rzzz

In commercial shipping, the amortization period of a ship is exactly 12 years. That is, for 12 years of work, he must repay his price (or pay off a leasing loan). Naturally, these 12 years, also working in profit, giving a certain percentage for depreciation.

So that commercial ... And how many Iowa went?

[Rzzz]

So any ship can be operated at least three hundred years, supporting timely repairs. Just over time, repairs are becoming more expensive, and profits are becoming less. Freight rates are getting lower, and insurance companies are giving higher rates for the old ship. Searching for spare parts for old equipment is becoming more and more difficult, they need more and more, and the qualified crew to go on the old ship is also not eager. When the bowls of these scales (profit-expenses) begin to be compared, the vessel is renamed and sent to India or Bangladesh.
On the “Iowa” money was clearly not spared.

[viktor_ui]

Maybe the fleet (apparently the top) just doesn’t need such ships ... but it really needs loot for its subsequent development ??? Then Well, it seems to me ... In the Syrian ehspres, he certainly would not be useful. Or has he become so old and stupidly rotted in storage? Need SPECIAL answer and not a thieving manager (count them in the drawbar).

[Artemiy_2]

Rotted and all the less valuable removed for a long time. And the ship itself turned out to be mildly unsuccessful

[9PA]

It is possible in more detail about unsuccessful. thank

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: 9PA

It is possible in more detail about unsuccessful. thank

It’s possible how YOU personally (as the captain of this ship) will drop the equipment on ENEMY COAST? I explain enemy coast that means there
firstly) there are minefields or iron, reinforced concrete blocks or some other underwater elements capable of incapacitating your ship when it is near.
secondly) this shore has spotters
thirdly) this coast has artillery / missile / aviation cover with a reaction time of "20min> X <1 hour"

[orionvitt]

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Will you drop equipment on the ENEMY COAST?

The technique can also be dropped onto the already captured bridgehead. In terms of the main forces of the second echelon, so to speak, the capacity allows. Secondly, such specialized ships are very relevant for supplying military groups and bases, for example, in Syria. Without any landings on the "enemy shore". And now they are being driven to Tartus, all that is at hand. Starting from all kinds of dry cargo ships and ending with "fishing schooners".

[ProkletyiPirat]

orionvitt (Vitaliy) Your previous post directly shows that you simply do not understand the essence, maybe you know, maybe remember, you can read it, but DO NOT understand the essence. Let's figure it out in order

Quote: orionvitt

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Will you drop equipment on the ENEMY COAST?

The equipment can also be dropped onto an already captured bridgehead.

You can! But who will allow you to create this bridgehead? Landing ships (in theory) should capture this very bridgehead, and it can be either equipped (port) or not equipped (bay). All the talk about landing on an "already created bridgehead" is verbiage in the style of "what was the chicken or the egg before?", The correct answer is always "egg", and then you can even argue until blue in the face about whether it was chicken, or dinosaur, or fish , or some other (in this case, the egg is the enemy shore).

Quote: orionvitt

Secondly, such specialized ships are very relevant for supplying military groups and bases, for example, in Syria. Without any landings on the "enemy shore". And now they are being driven to Tartus, all that is at hand. Starting from all kinds of dry cargo ships and ending with "fishing schooners".

You confuse the transport ship and the landing ship, if you take this BDK, then it cannot be the second, and for the first it is too military-excessive and operational-insufficient. Just study the features of the ships of the same United States (after all, it was they who fought most with the fleet in the last 50 years).
And today they are driving all kinds of trash because instead of building normal ships, a normal fleet and normal shipyards, our Navy under the USSR riveted all kinds of piece monsters that naturally degenerate (which we already see in the Russian Federation). For example, for the sake of understanding the essence, just try loading / unloading a group of tanks into this BDK when the ship is moored from the side but not from the stern / bow (this is the situation in most ports) while you are forbidden to use the port infrastructure (crane \ tug \ ....) .

[Mavrikiy]

Until the specialists came up, infa from VIKI

"Mitrofan Moskalenko" in service 23.09.1990/30/XNUMX (and XNUMX years old)
Since 2002 in reserve (in 10 years?)
According to data as of 5.5.2014, it was put up for sale, probably in a state that excluded its intended use (the people’s loot is being cut).
The issue of restoring and returning to the combat structure of the Navy is being studied (they reduced funding for the Ministry of Defense, and immediately paws combed).

[donavi49]

The main problem is fundamental = DT-59. Moskalenko - 1 kapitalka, 1 scrapped (burned). The only manufacturer of these turbines in the world is Zorya. The brother has the main problem = total devastation on board + 2 inoperative turbines.

Less fundamental is expensive. Well, that is, in comparison with classmates (the world current level) - the operation of these ships is almost at the level of large UDCs like Carlos. For the USSR it was not a problem (although it was a problem, which in the end was only 3). But now - it’s really money to throw away. That is, to buy which Makassaar or 071 will be more economically profitable + they will give significantly more opportunities than 1174.

Even less fundamentally - archaic architecture. This is the first generation of DKVD. Well, it's like a MiG-17 - now upgrade and put into operation.

[dgonni]

I’ll add that pancakes weren’t so hot collected on such ships and crews! Here is the main reason! Do you want an officer? Sure, not a problem! L / C problematic? yeah! Therefore, such a service life .

[Rzzz]

Quote: viktor_ui

In the Syrian expresp, he certainly would not be useful

Expensive. In the Syrian express you need to buy a not very shabby ro-ro in the secondary market, and drive it back and forth until the screw falls off. And when it falls off - screw in place and continue to drive.

[viktor_ui]

I thought about these ro-ro ... hired from Turkey and driven. And during a big fight, whom do defense managers hire and what will they ??? Ali in the Swiss Alps will sit patriotically in pre-purchased personal nests, letting out a tearful tear about Russia and its population, lapping alpine milk and eating alpine chocolate. One hundred pounds will be so

[Rzzz]

Quote: viktor_ui

And during the big fight

There are no problems during a very big fight. This fight will last a maximum of a couple of hours. After it, you don’t need to carry anything anywhere.

[Piramidon]

Quote: viktor_ui

In the Syrian ehspres, he certainly would not be useful.

Will it not be greasy? It is possible, in principle, to use the "Kuzyu" in what the dry cargo ship can handle

[viktor_ui]

I liked its capacity ... 80 armored personnel carriers are not "huh and yu in a glass" + to this the personnel + judging by the presence of antennas it can be like a command ship ... can the brains of the high authorities be enough to sensibly dispose of what is ??? Stupid nonche at the bubble and all steer climb where not hitting

[89024766285]

do not break

[Mavrikiy]

BDK "Mitrofan Moskalenko" project 1174 sent for disposal

Not in a businesslike way. It is quite possible to overtake to Syria, Venezuela, or even where to use it as ....... well, blocking it will come out of it like that, wow. Helicopter hangars, radars .... What they stole back!

[donavi49]

Money. Golden blockchain will be. Plus, if Moskalenko can still be dragged. That brother, as recently floated from Nakhodka, will gurgle at the first opportunity.

[Dimonk]

And what kind of flooding from Nakhodka drowned? Something did not slip on the news.

[donavi49]

Skipped.
Floating dock given to Korea from PSRZ of Nakhodka, drowned 30 miles from South Korea... This "Vesti: Primorye" reports with reference to newsnhk.

Before sending the dock repaired, installed new equipment on it.

According to "KP", the ships were accompanied by a South Korean patrol ship, and the ship "Biya", which belongs to the company "FEMCO-Management", registered in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, was towing the dock. The main activity of the company is the lease of sea vessels for foreign and coastal navigation for the carriage of goods with a crew. The tug entered the company's fleet in the summer of 2015.

According to preliminary data, no one was injured in the accident.
http://vestiprim.ru/news/ptrnews/76349-plavuchij-dok-iz-nahodki-zatonul-po-doroge-v-juzhnuju-koreju.html

[Dimonk]

Thanks for the information.

[Seaman77]

as recently flooding from Nakhodka - gurgles at the first opportunity.

And the "sawn" belay ... ???
To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear?

[luka57]

Quote: Mavrikiy

It is quite possible to overtake in Syria,

and he will overtake?

[SHAMAN]

The large landing craft "Mitrofan Moskalenko" was founded in 1984 and entered the fleet in 1990.

Yes, it seems not so old, if you play a little prank .. And it looks serious, and even a helicopter carrier.! Something is not clean here, I can smell it ... I could make it to the shores of Venezuela, but it would have been a noise .. I saw a lot of money paid to someone to dispose of it ..
How are we going to defend ourselves with small shore boats ...? Oh Russia .. Make a fool of us again

[luka57]

Quote: SHAMAN

Than we will be protected by small coastal boats.

BDK for protection? and what will he protect?

[SHAMAN]

Quote: luka57

Quote: SHAMAN

Than we will be protected by small coastal boats.

BDK for protection? and what will he protect?

Russia could be defended in the oceans, for example, off the coast of Syria, Cuba or Venezuela .. Who knows what is loaded in it .. And do not have to be malicious.
Remember our BDK cruising to Syria, what panic was in the Jewish media of the world .. It was then that Russia was respected in the Arab world and became afraid in the west .. We took a chance and bluffed then. And it turned out !!!!

[luka57]

Quote: SHAMAN

Could defend Russia in the oceans, for example, off the coast of Syria, Cuba or Venezuela ..

I ask again WHAT to protect?

Remember our BDK plying to Syria

so he drove the landing
and I don’t understand you. then you write

Than we will be protected shore boats..

I thought you were protecting our shores, and it turns out you decided to drive him into the world ocean

[SHAMAN]

Quote: luka57

I thought you were protecting our shores, and it turns out you decided to drive him into the world ocean

And you would only protect the Moscow ring ..?

[luka57]

[quote = SHAMAN] And you would only protect the Moscow ring road .. [/ quote]
I answered YOUR words
[quote] Than we will be small to be protected shore boats [/quote]
well, if you drive the "coastal boats" to the roundabout ...

[Artemiy_2]

Quote: 9PA

It is possible in more detail about unsuccessful. thank

Too big for a BDK. Too small for UDC. Only 4 helicopters with such a displacement. Small dock camera.

[Thrifty]

Shame, just a shame for our authorities, who do not want to think about the fleet! Apart from false promises for the distant future, today almost nothing is being done to rebuild the fleet! Before you can cut any one warship, you need to build a similar one! !! Moreover, the ship is not old! "There is no money, but you hold on" ??? Yeah, teeth on the oar, so as not to be carried away? ?? And, you do not need to lie to the country about financial problems, teach your edrenorussians using Stalin's methods to boil in trillions! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Artemiy_2]

Quote: Thrifty

Shame, just a shame for our authorities, who do not want to think about the fleet! Apart from false promises for the distant future, today almost nothing is being done to rebuild the fleet! Before you can cut any one warship, you need to build a similar one! !! Moreover, the ship is not old! "There is no money, but you hold on" ??? Yeah, teeth on the oar, so as not to be carried away? ?? And, you do not need to lie to the country about financial problems, teach your edrenorussians using Stalin's methods to boil in trillions! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take it easy. This ship has long been a corpse already. Since the 90s

[luka57]

Quote: Artemiy_2

Take it easy

the main thing for him

And, do not lie to the country about financial problems -

these about FSE money know

[Thrifty]

Artemy 2-can without poking? I have not fought with you in the same trench! Respect your opponents and their opinions!

[Artemiy_2]

You do not respect yourself. They came to scream without understanding the problem. It is necessary to approach the issue more adequately, and not to yell that Stalin should shoot everyone for every old utilized ship

[Thrifty]

Artemy 2, but how then, the cries of our Moscow Region that not one corps will not be cut into scrap metal, that all this will do good for the navy? ?? Like, old hulls will be used for new warships! !! But in reality, from the fleet, all the more, from the fleet of big water, they simply and banally get rid! The Kremlin doesn’t need them! Hence the promises of new military pennants - through the years, and, maybe! !!

[Artemiy_2]

It depends on which case. This ship has been on the joke for 20 years. Everything rotted there

[APASUS]

Interesting information, on September 13, 2012 there was already a similar article on VO with similar text and even a photo from there. Apparently, the decision-making process is not fast at all. Although it is also worth noting that in the USSR and Russia there are no specialized facilities for cutting ships. Everything used to be sold to India or Pakistan.

[Berkut24]

Here you can argue for a long time that there are not enough ships, which is a pity, etc. But there is common sense. And MO, finally, switched from emotions to dry calculations.
1) Any ships of those years of release were built at best by the whole country. At worst, in Poland. Already there is no factory support, no spare parts, and often drawings. Sometimes the restoration of a ship is commensurate in design and shipbuilding with the construction of a new ship.
2) In the 90s, they did not bother with proper conservation. As well as over the serious protection of "canned food". And now, often the ship can no longer be restored. Or is it too expensive.
3) Ships in a "neither one nor the other" take up berths, bays and other useful places. And they also require at least minimal money for maintenance and protection.
Therefore, MO's desire to "put things in order at home" can only be welcomed. Don't look for saboteurs there. I think that everything has already been calculated. 2 new modernized "Grenas" in the version of the helicopter paratrooper-dock have just been laid, a line has been drawn under the old projects.

[Adimius38]

there is money for yachts of the Russian elite if you try to kill those who are wealthy on the sale of Russian resources, but there is no money to restore the ship needed for the fleet, that's all

[senima56]

"Breaking, don't build!"

[Andrey Andreev_4]

"... joined the fleet in 1990."
Where in a hurry ???
Large, roomy, with good autonomy ... Put on it a radar with AFAR, containers for a couple of dozen Caliber Zircons, a radio reconnaissance station, a sonar station, three anti-submarine helicopters and send to the coast of Syria. Let it serve as a control ship.

[Lara Croft]

The project 1174 Mitrofan Moskalenko large landing craft was laid down in 1984 and became part of the fleet in 1990. In fact, it is a helicopter landing ship - dock. With a displacement of 14 thousand tons, the ship could take on board up to 50 tanks PT-76, 80 armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehiclesand up to 120 trucks. The equipment could be immersed in any combination. The ship calmly housed up to 500 landing personnel. BDK of this project are the only ones who could carry on the flight deck up to 4 helicopters.

I think Eun would have found use for him ... sorry ...

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Mavrikiy

What they stole back!

I wonder how much the production of radio tubes will get, for example. designed in 1945 and manufactured in the last batch in 1960? Glassworks, rolling canned iron and bringing it to the condition of an electric lamp level? To restore machines, equipment for restoration (practically new manufacture) test stands, devices? To organize the release of old materials on old technologies?
Then, when is it a completely different level of metallurgy, and metalworking technology, and design and testing? How many thousand times will it be more expensive than making a new one?
And the funniest thing is to get TE characteristics that are not comparable in any way with modern requirements?

[armata_armata]

I wonder how much the production of radio tubes will get, for example. designed in 1945 and manufactured in the last batch in 1960?

Interestingly, and who prevents using transistor equipment instead of lamps?

But as usual in the largest and most resource-rich country in the world, the government has no money for repairs and modernization

[Chicha squad]

Many "experts" are likely to see such a ship for the first time.

[mmaxx]

I understand the lean. But who knows those. state? Could, would put into operation earlier. The USSR built a lot of things that cannot be exploited with its demise.

[armata_armata]

I understand the lean. But who knows those. state?

It's just that ours for Putintsev have one argument - "these ships are easier to saw and build a new one", okay, tell me at least one ship over 6000 tons that was laid down in 30 years?
And if you can’t, why are you cutting ships under 11 thousand?

[mmaxx]

But this is not an argument to keep a ship without a move, etc. If, for example, boilers fail (most likely) on it and it is simply impossible to replace them, then why is it? We have written off a bunch of good destroyers in such a way. If someone thinks that instead of KTU it is possible to fix a diesel engine there, then I think that the sheepskin is not worth it. Are there any such diesel engines - 1. How much does it cost - 2.

[donavi49]

There are not boilers, but DT-59 with Dawns. So go to the morgue.

[mmaxx]

What is really there, of course, I do not know. But there could be a million reasons. And one is enough.

[Artemiy_2]

Quote: armata_armata

I understand the lean. But who knows those. state?

It's just that ours for Putintsev have one argument - "these ships are easier to saw and build a new one", okay, tell me at least one ship over 6000 tons that was laid down in 30 years?
And if you can’t, why are you cutting ships under 11 thousand?

Well, here they laid the 11711 modernized on April 23 (22 pieces)

[awg75]

if it weren’t for Putin, by now we would only have the same ships as for example in Ukraine, mostly inflatable ships, also presented by mattresses.

[awg75]

I'm certainly not an expert, but the ship is frankly sorry. Is thorough repair and modernization cheaper than building a new ship?

[Evil 55]

The layout of the large landing craft contains certain features of "stealth technology", for the period of commissioning it was the most advanced, truly NATIONAL project .. As usual, while the ship was waiting for revision, its main components and assemblies were outdated and pilfered by the fathers-commanders ..

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: armata_armata

I wonder how much the production of radio tubes will get, for example. designed in 1945 and manufactured in the last batch in 1960?

Interestingly, and who prevents using transistor equipment instead of lamps?

But as usual in the largest and most resource-rich country in the world, the government has no money for repairs and modernization

Since I, after all, a professional in the field of design, I will tell you that ANY fundamental changes in the design, materials, manufacturing methods should be confirmed by a complete test program.
And mind you, I did say such a trifle radio equipment. But, after all, this applies to everything, including the much more important one.
In order to replace any part that is molded under pressure, you, after all, will have to make a full mold. There are hundreds of them who have come to complete trash ....
The cruiser "Aurora" was lifted into dry dock and the hull was changed to stainless steel. Does this ship also need to change the hull? After so many years, there is no living space. "Aurora" is a symbol. They didn’t stand up for expenses, and went to the wildest expenses.

[mmaxx]

Any decision to write off is made with a cold head. And they will always call people who would have to repair the object or the like. And they will give a written opinion. And below write the approximate amount of costs. Overpriced, of course, but as life shows, even unscrupulous overpricing is quite close to real costs. And the main justification: the plant needs to live - to pay debts, salaries, interest on loans, etc. And all this because before there was no stable work and everything was spinning as best they could.
And then the people who allocate money will look at it and write from above: "Write off." And this is actually the truth of life. Whether someone wants it or not.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: armata_armata

I understand the lean. But who knows those. state?

It's just that ours for Putintsev have one argument - "these ships are easier to saw and build a new one", okay, tell me at least one ship over 6000 tons that was laid down in 30 years?
And if you can’t, why are you cutting ships under 11 thousand?

There is a technique for catching monkeys on a jug, with yummy poured inside. The jug is tied to a tree. The monkey, having launched its paw there, squeezes the yummy in a fist and cannot pull it out. The "lean" attitude towards hopeless junk makes you look like this monkey, don't you think?
To put something necessary in your pocket, sometimes you have to throw stuff out of there. It would be fun to watch you walking into the fray, and dragging your grandmother, who was barely walking, under her arms.

[Bambusho]

Well, finally, the Ministry of Attack made such an important decision!

[Bambusho]

Hmm, wasn’t it easier to admit that there is no competence in the construction of the BDK and in its repair? !!

[Artemiy_2]

Actually, that is. New BDKs are now being built on amber. And this ship is rotten

[tralmaster]

In 1985, he saw on the 33rd pier in Vladik, though the truth was called in my opinion somehow not so. But only then came from the Baltic through the battle. Then, Kirov came to Abrek for a raid.

[ssergey1978]

Quote: vitalij boniwur

Externally, the photo looks normal, can it do without recycling? Such a handsome man! Sorry ...

And the year of construction is not at all old. In a hurry.

[Lesorub]

BDK SF Mitrofan Moskalenko of the 1174 project sent for disposal

It is a pity when bulletins (from the military-economic front) are frequent - they cut Sharks, Atlanta, BDK, and this is what leaks into the available press.

[serg.shishkov2015]

Goodbye! the last ship of this project ,,,, Best BDK of the USSR ,,, * Horns * and * Nikolaev * forever entered the history of my family ,,,,,

[priboy57]

It's a shame to green snot. Constructive miscalculations led to the loss of another subclass of landing ships. New BDKs based on pr. 1171 (not a single one has yet been completely transferred to the fleet) are outdated at the design stage and will not be able to fully replace the BDK pr. 775, not to mention the DVKD. Lost KFOR and DKVP. It is very expensive to restore the fleet, but it is necessary, because landing ships will not provide landing for the Marine Corps, they are only for certain types of actions.

[Alexander Petrov1]

Yes, of course, "why do we need such ships, or maybe we can cut them into metal, but we can't build an analogue, keep it up, well done, Shame" ...

[Sergey Panin]

It may look normal above the waterline, but when was the last time it was docked. What’s below the waterline. Maybe all the metal can be rotten. Docking takes place every 5 years, they look at defects along the body, the thickness of the metal is the protective layer, and if everything is bad there it makes no sense to patch it.