Expressed readiness to make Turkey a partner of the S-500 Prometheus air defense project

Director General of Rostec Sergey Chemezov gave an interview to Turkish journalists. His statements published by the news agency "Anadolu". The main direction of the conversation is military-technical cooperation between the Russian Federation and Turkey.

According to Sergey Chemezov, unprecedented pressure is being put on Turkey today in connection with the contract to buy C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia. The head of Rostec noted that Russia respects the direct and consistent position that Ankara demonstrates on this issue. Chemezov recalled that Turkey will become the first NATO country to receive the modern Russian S-400 “Triumph” air defense system. A question was also raised on C-500 "Prometheus" in relation to military-technical cooperation with Ankara.

From the interview:

The fact that Turkey does not lend itself to pressure from its alliance partners demonstrates the independence of the foreign policy of the Turkish government and the president.

Sergey Chemezov made it clear that if the United States refuses to supply the previously-contracted F-35 to the Turkish Air Force, Russia is ready to consider the possibility of delivering An-Su Su-57E aircraft, which have already received an appropriate export opinion.

According to Chemezov, if Ankara shows interest in such a purchase, the Russian Federation is ready to cooperate. At the same time, Chemezov called Turkey an “attractive market” of the Russian newest Su-57E fighter.

Recall that earlier in Turkey they have already spoken on the issue of American pressure: “If the United States refuses to supply F-35, then Ankara will consider options for acquiring 5-generation airplanes in other countries.” And there are only two such countries - Russia with Su-57 and China with J-20. Moreover, China has not yet announced its readiness to export its J-20 for export.

Chemezov also added that in the Russian Federation they express readiness to introduce Turkey into the project of creating the promising C-500 “Prometheus” air defense system. This system in the Russian Federation is at the final stage of development and, as previously reported, should soon begin to enter the troops. Chemezov added that the Russian Federation will also consider the option of localizing the production of Russian weapons in Turkish territory as part of a possible joint project, if the Turkish authorities show such an interest. Among such promising cooperation stands helicopter.

Chemezov in an interview Anadolu:

Our countries have the necessary competencies for the development of technological cooperation in this field. Therefore, we will only welcome the desire of the Turkish side to become a partner in the C-500 project.

Comments

[Whowhy]

It seems to me that flirting with "Muslims" will not lead to good ...

[Svetlana]

Are Christians, I mean the Anglo-Saxons, better for flirting? In Russia, half of its people are Muslims. Tatars, Caucasus ..

[poquello]

and che, funny, they have to be dragged into space, "Turks on the moon, her, her"

[SETSET]

Where is taking our "traders", ready to sell everything and everyone.

[Shurik70]

Quote: whowhy

It seems to me that flirting with "Muslims" will not lead to good ...

Do not equate Turks and Muslims. I personally know several Muslims. Normal people. Adequate. With his cockroaches in his head, of course, but whoever does not have them.
At a crucial moment for Russia, the Turks were ALWAYS on the side of the enemies. And this must never be forgotten. Yes, you need to reach out for a possible partnership. But recklessly throwing into the arms is impossible.

Partner (with a contract that very competent lawyers worked on), not a friend. Not in the next four generations. We have a long history of relations in which there was little good. And the S-500 here clearly does not fit into the partnership.

[Whowhy]

You see, I do not want to say that Muslims are bad people, but it’s not a sin for Muslims to deceive an infidel, and it’s in their blood, so to speak. Therefore, you just need to follow safety precautions. You don’t turn the street into a red light (at least at a busy intersection ), and do not blame the traffic light that it is bad when the red light comes on ....

[Shurik70]

And again a lie.
Those Muslims, whom I know well, do not deceive others, not because "the Koran orders or does not order," but because they have a conscience.
And among Christians, you can recall a lot of the similar "kill everyone, the Lord will know his own", and among atheists (some of Trotsky's executions are enough to recall).

At the expense of deception - all modern politics and all media are built on deception. The main thing is profit. When concluding ANY modern contract, the possibility of fraud must be taken into account.

[Whowhy]

Well, why is it a lie? What is the benefit to me? This "experience is the son of difficult mistakes." I also have fellow Muslim friends but this does not mean anything, so to speak, in a cultural-historical context. People tend to consider as "theirs" those they have met better, and the general rules do not seem to apply to such (close) people, BUT until the next really critical situation (for example, if you have to choose) ...

[Shurik70]

One of my grandfathers is a Kazan Tatar, so I know what I am saying. About "it is not a sin to deceive the unfaithful" is an invention. An invention of those who want to embroil nations. At least with regard to the Kazan Tatars, it is an invention.
I’m not sure about the Turks. There are no acquaintances, and communication in the market is not an indicator.
With regard to the British, I am sure that it is true. For them, "not to deceive an Englishman is a godly deed."
You can’t equalize all under one comb.

[hydrox]

I wonder what amount the Liberians will demand when they sell their liberalist wives to Turkish harems.
But the situation with the S-500 is very similar to the fact that the liberd will sell his mother and his wife and children if the Turks give them good money ...

[exalibor]

what are you talking about ... they themselves will give a loan on the most favorable terms ... if only to buy ...

[hydrox]

But this will be a direct betrayal, for this shooting is not a sin ...

[Pirogov]

Quote: Svetlana

Are Christians, I mean the Anglo-Saxons, better for flirting? In Russia, half of its people are Muslims. Tatars, Caucasus ..

Impudence is a separate issue. And what does the Russian Muslims have to do with the joint development of the C 500 with the Turks? Can immediately send all the documentation to the white house?

[Svetlana]

And what does the Russian Muslims have to do with the joint development of the C 500 with the Turks? Can immediately send all the documentation to the white house?

That's right, Russian Muslims have nothing to do with it. But above, a friend expressed the opinion of flirting with Muslims not with the Turks. You need to be careful with Turkey, this is unequivocal.

You don’t need to cut both Christians and Muslims under one comb. They are all different.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Pirogov

Can immediately send all the documentation to the white house?

What is it like? One technical description is fifty volumes. And the design documentation is an order of magnitude larger. Only the simple training of combat crew officers takes years, and these are actually just operators. To master technologies, it is necessary at least to create a whole scientific school where hundreds of scientists will be years, or maybe decades, to master technologies that will become obsolete during this time. Therefore, no one in the world is already engaged in this nonsense. It’s easier to buy technology, and in order not to lag behind in the process of mastering it, try to integrate your science and developments into existing scientific schools.

[exalibor]

yeah ... then I look the Chinese have been mastering our technologies for decades for years and are far behind us ...

[Vita vko]

Quote: exalibor

for decades, the Chinese have been mastering our technology for decades.

China will become the world's leading economy in the next decade. And not without the help of Russia, primarily energy. China is not Turkey. In this case, everything should be built with exactly the opposite. Otherwise, technological lag cannot be avoided.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Svetlana

Are Christians, I mean the Anglo-Saxons, better for flirting?

Do not accidentally recall where our ambassador was killed not so long ago? And who shot down our plane? Really naglosaksami? I heard a slightly different version ...
But this

map of the great turun, i.e. what the Turks even claim to be, within the framework of the idea of ​​pan-Turkism. By the way, Erdogan quite realizes this idea. We recall his performance in Sarajevo. Oh yes. By the way, the north of Syria is also occupied not by the Naglosaks, but by the Turks. And in principle, they are not going to leave. Never.
Do you really think that it’s worth arming a neighbor who officially claims to be the South Urals, Crimea, Tatarstan, Astrakhan and access to Lake Baikal? Or do you just not think it necessary to think, at least a couple of years in advance?

[Tusv]

Quote: Lannan Shi

map of great turan

Well, it's not bad to dream. They are like artists, they see it. But in real life, red spots are marks from beatings and under the pants will hide the red spot. Just a few hours ago, on another branch. Ours, drowned 2, stole a lot that did not like - flooded. These are the great tourns vs Russia

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Tusv

Well, it's not bad to dream. They are like artists, they see it.

Well, so that their dreams were not just a dream, but began to come true, let's drive them with the S-500, airplanes, which we and ourselves do not have, and it’s unlikely that we will get enough power, we’ll give them a gas pump. Everything is logical in principle. I can’t understand one thing. Why such difficulties? Give them all our strategic nuclear forces at once, and do not suffer.
The Turkish economy is growing 2.5-3 times faster than ours. The population since the beginning of the century has increased by 20%. We do not need to think about the fattening of Turkey, but about how we will resist it, in 30 years, with an endangered population, an indigenous population, an influx of migrants, by the way the very Turks, and a stagnant economy.

[Tusv]

Well be, even if we give the Turks nuclear power plants, we will raise profits on TVELLs. For walk around the market, look for cheaper. Agree, it’s better to keep the neighbor by the egg than the neighbor will try to throw us. Let's say allowing the Turks to produce chassis and radio stations is much more profitable than entrusting it to the Chinese, who won the tender for Ottoman air defense. By the way, Our technologies are being spoiled for free, but they are ready to deliver it for substantial money. That is, Turkey receives a natural castrated Our product or complete, but Chinese and past our box office. It seems that Erdogan was offered a profitable offer

[Svetlana]

You would bring Chinese cards, I assure you, they will be wider than Turkmen ones. Or maps of the world caliphate :)
All these are the usual desires of strong rulers. Putin is said to be rebuilding the Soviet Union. Wouldn't it be nice? But it doesn’t work, the water of history cannot be reversed.

PS: But despite these cards, and the desires of individual leaders of individual countries, the world was conquered by the Americans, in the person of the dollar, of course. And imeeno with them we have a war, thank God while "hot"

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Svetlana

Would you bring Chinese cards

Could it be better to give you the composition of the ground forces of China? Sound plans to increase them? And the list of countries with which China borders? You look and think, against whom all this good is intended. It is not otherwise that the Chinas set their sights on Mongolia. And yes, keep that in mind. The Chinese are tough pragmatists. Just like that, according to the principle - that’s what they are, they do not rivet tanks, nor do they build ships ..

[wmn5500]

Not true!!! This is a map of the settlement of Turkic-speaking peoples! Why are you lying so brazenly ?!

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: wmn5500

Not true!!! This is a map of the settlement of Turkic-speaking peoples! Why are you lying so brazenly ?!

My dear. And the great Turan just implies that the Turkic-speaking peoples are essentially one people, and that they should be united under the auspices of Turkey. There is neo-fascism, but there is neo-Ottomanism. The new Turkish empire, from the middle-earth to the quiet with arctic oceans.

[wmn5500]

Listen to my dear what it means and who does not apply to this issue. You lied by presenting a map of the resettlement of Turkic-speaking peoples as a map of the alleged Turan! This is a fact. If you do not like Turkish-Russian cooperation, then give real reasons and do not juggle the cards !!!

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: wmn5500

Listen to the cutest

Sweetheart, if that.

Quote: wmn5500

You lied by presenting a map of the resettlement of Turkic-speaking peoples as a map of the alleged Turan! That is a fact

Enjoy this option of turana. Taken from a Turkish site. he is small, wider than I laid out. But if you like it more, then no question.

PS
It’s not very difficult for me to lay out the third option. Where the Turks lay claim to everything east of the Urals. But to find at least one where they have no complaints against Russia ... Well, yes, then a problem.

[wmn5500]

Sweetheart again! Although I wore glasses, no matter how I looked at the map, I did not notice the word "Turan"! Here again the same thing, the area of ​​settlement of the Turks.
Don't you really think that those who design "Turan" will create a state with exclaves at such great distances from each other like specks? Be careful what you write!

[Lannan Shi]

The word Turan at the top of the picture. You will not see - to dohtur for new points.

PS
Don't like the modest, conservative option? Eat full, radical.

[wmn5500]

I see what? Where did you get this card? Show you the maps that are drawn in Russia or Armenia ?! And what is written below, as I understand it, could not read, I will translate there it says "Peace to the Turkic peoples" Here again it means all the Turkic peoples and the wishes of peace for them about any creation of "Turan" and there is no question !!!

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: wmn5500

I see what? Where did you get this card? Show you maps that are drawn in Russia or in Armenia ?!

Yeah. Show. And at the same time, the ruler of Russia or Armenia, who at the rally, let's say in Dallas, or Hamburg, promoted ideas from these cards.

Quote: wmn5500

I will translate there it says "Peace to the Turkic peoples"

Should I throw a couple more cards? Just with the inscription Turan? Or Turan Federation? Or the Turkish world? It’s not difficult for me, but aren’t you tired? Deny the obvious? Or, for example, recall Turkish financing of Chechnya? As part of the same project? Or ask, what kind of Turks got into Syria, to their ears, if they are so peaceful and fluffy? And can I mention that Erdogan entered into an open alliance with the party of the nationalist movement, in which Pan-Turkism is registered in the charter? Or to remind the Turkic Council, to which Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are already drawn? not? Do not? Does it hinder living in a fictional world in which pan-Turkism is a fairy tale and not a real threat? If you, Hitler, too, in the early 20s, was perceived as a very funny and positive clown. Have you forgotten how this clowning ended?
PS
Although ... Write what you want. To prove to a blind man that a cloud appeared in the sky is a task for rampant optimists, to whom they never belonged.

[wmn5500]

So as I understand it, you have already started to get out! If you remember, I did not deny that someone is possible and draws such maps and conducts such a policy. But where are they not ?! Are they in Russia too? How is the idea of ​​the Russian world different from other similar ones? And you, having manipulated the cards, presented it as if the idea of ​​"Turan" is almost the official policy of Turkey. This is why I urged you to make your case based on facts and not lie! I understand that Turkish-Russian cooperation, probably based on the long-standing enmity between these two countries, is personally sickening for you, but let's proceed from reality, today both need this mutually beneficial cooperation. And do not revive the former enmity. Or would it be more profitable for you personally if there was enmity?

[wmn5500]

Apparently I was already tired by night, so I did not read your post carefully, so there were additions that I will give below.

Or ask, what kind of Turks got into Syria, to their ears, if they are so peaceful and fluffy?

Why did the Turks get into Syria, so you look carefully at the same maps that you brought, and it will become clear that the Turkmens live there to protect them and to protect their territory from Kurdish terrorists.

Or to remind the Turkic Council, to which Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are already drawn?

And what should not have been? What prevents you from the advice of Turkic-speaking countries? How does he threaten you?
The rest is in the previous comment.

[antique]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And can I mention that Erdogan entered into an open alliance with the party of the nationalist movement, in which Pan-Turkism is registered in the charter?

You have correctly described everything. I fully support your concerns. But it seems to me that you argue in vain. Your counterpart, exposes more and more counterarguments. Disagreeing with any proposed position. Looks like a mishandled kremlyuk. Or maybe a kremlebot. It works according to the standard scheme. It requires more new arguments, then requests for links, etc. will go. Provocateur in one word.

[Errr]

Miles, as they say, sorry. And how do you like this picture?

The internet is full of all kinds of "artistic creativity". If I were in your place, I would not be very upset when considering the idea of ​​pan-Turkism due to the worldwide settlement of "brain cockroaches". All this is more "Wishlist" than "mighty". By the way, from my personal observations in Turkey, I was able to conclude that, for example, Kazakhs and Turks coexist in about the same "friendly way" as Russians and Poles. In reality, everything is not as vulgar as it might seem at first glance.

[raki-uzo]

Here in Turkey, 80% of the population does not know what "Turan" is. What are you talking about? Take maps from the Internet and put them here, somehow discovering a state secret! It's funny though!

[Tusv]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And the great Turan just implies that the Turkic-speaking peoples are essentially one people

Well, let him mean it, outside of the Russian Federation. He will be greyhound - We will not refuse the straits. There is even a ready excuse. In the name of the great Turan and unity of the Turkic peoples. Turks know this very well

[protoss]

in fact, it’s just a map of the settlement of Turkic-speaking peoples.

[hydrox]

This is not a resettlement card, but a UNION card!
And it is not by chance that Erdogan is called "Sultan Osman" among his people ...
It’s only the Russian Liberda who is ready to sell the family into slavery, if only to saddle at least one commodity and money trickle with Turkey, and here such a mighty river of Russian thought called anti-aircraft defense: yes, for such control not only the family - you can give all of Russia, but that this is a Russian school - what difference does it make for traitors-liberals in a world without borders!
And if the people of Russia are not dumb in the black body, it is not at all in the interests of the people and the security of Russia.

[Aqr009]

In Russia, half of its people are Muslims. Tatars, Caucasus ..

Wikipedia says Muslims make up about 9% of Russia's population.

[Marat79]

Right. Therefore, I was already distorted

[Marat79]

Which half to goblin? Where are you going?

[dinis]

Excessive flirting.

[Greg Miller]

And what is so small, just the S-500? Call directly to the "Sarmat" project, they are partners !!!

[URAL72]

I agree, but with China it is even more dangerous. On the other hand, when the Su-27 was sold, there was even more panic, and the chances of at least some sort of revival of the aviation industry and the Air Force were much less. Where are these dryers now? Long forgotten, but the main idea - it saved our aircraft industry ...

[Tusv]

Quote: whowhy

It seems to me that flirting with "Muslims" will not lead to good.

We have a whole Tatarstan, which has served Russia faithfully for many centuries. It is not worth insulting the Faithful with "Muslims". But here's how. If there were Ushak Pasha, and the Turks would be allies, there was such a case in history. When the British forced the Ottomans to supply the fleet of Ushakov. We also have interests in the region and it is not bad to drag the Turks to our side. Etozh with the S-500 over the Black Sea, you can knock down everything that flies to the European part of the Russian Federation. Dreams are true. But to convince the neighbors that we will kick in the face in anyone, if you rock the boat against Us and defend, in which case, it is necessary

[kenig1]

Tatarstan is no longer a subject of the Russian Federation, to whom does it serve and what ethnic group lives there?

[Tusv]

Since when is not the subject of the Russian Federation, feel free to ask?

[Lapunevsky]

Quote: Tusv

Since when is not the subject of the Russian Federation, feel free to ask?

Fun and most importantly to the point

[Tusv]

Not well. From the Soviet Information Bureau! Mr. kenig1 was treacherously attacked by glitches. The orderlies team heroically repulsed a citizen of the Russian Federation from creeping into an eclipse of the mind. At the moment, Mr. kenig1 is not in danger.

[hydrox]

Of course, it does not threaten when he, pumped up with haloperidol, lies on a bed crucified and tied at four points - this is what the liberoid rebuilding of the brain ends with!

[kenig1]

Do you happen to earn extra money as a clown? Read carefully what I wrote.

[Keyser soze]

Drag the Turk to your side is not bad.

Trump will get up in the morning and until the evening slam the Turkish economy for good. And the Turks will hang their nose, and the Sultan’s hang on a lantern and a fairy tale end. And the Americans will train the flight crew already with the C500. Fortunately and С700 is on the way and there is no tragedy ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Trump will get up in the morning and until the evening slam the Turkish economy for good.

What is it like? The Americans at the expense of air defense specifically threw Turkaf. Europeans at the expense of the European Union. Damn soyuznichki, at the expense of the Turkish people. And again. "Rousseau is tourist, the face of morality". Not even the Hans can fill the budget gap. Well, Erdogan can also block the Yankee straits. Well, Trump will get up, the couple will blurt out, and his friend will curl up like a morel. And how will he compare with the Sultan?

[Marat79]

And why are Tatars in Tatarstan less than Russians, and Tatars rule? This is a tendency throughout Russians to push Russians

[kenig1]

Egypt, Algeria, Sudan, etc.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: whowhy

I think,

You have no idea how much you are right. Or maybe you know.
Turkey has a decent experience in this.
I am very brief.
In early 2000, Israel and Turkey signed an agreement on a multi-billion dollar project to build gas and oil pipelines from Turkey to Israel.
An agreement was signed on the interaction of the armed forces with military training programs, joint ground, naval, and air maneuvers, the creation of an integrated group of military strategic research, training flights of Turkish aircraft in the Israeli sky, and Israeli - in Turkish, instructing Turkish pilots, intelligence exchange information, especially in the fight against terrorism.
In 2003, after the election of Recep Tayyip Erdogan as Prime Minister of Turkey, the rapid Islamization of Turkey began. And all the treaties were broken.
Now the Turks have found Russia, which agrees to lend for the purchase of the S-400 and other projects, but will return or not, as they say in Odessa, "WE WILL LOOK"

[Vladislav_2]

The Turks generally decided to go to the "v-bank". They put forward demands .... if you exclude us on Fu 35, then we will tell everyone about the stealth cover! ... bluff? (They assemble up to 8 hull nodes) ..…. Mattress is now in shock

[1 Navigator]

The stench mattresses were raised about the sale of S-400 to the Turks, so now the oil is being fired at s-500. What mattresses in general should become small beads. You already declare that we will adopt them!

[Skunks]

Quote: whowhy

It seems to me that flirting with "Muslims" will not lead to good ...

Most of our liberals also think so (need to be baptized) and about China and the DPRK))))
Russia's main task is to tear off Turkey from NATO .. ​​This is the case and the S-1000 is not a pity ..
We will soon have something abruptly in space ...
Such things in Roscosmos ..

[Nait]

I don’t understand this.
In union time, the secretary lost an abstract on C200 in the air defense school - he was put in prison ....
And here they give into the hands of the NATO countries the C400 and indulge about the C500 - is that how it is?

[MTR theme]

And in the future they will not ask the Official? After all, Turkey is a NATO country ... or does the Official think that he is eternal? And now pro-Turkish forces are shelling ours in Syria ...
Our design engineers are not allowed to go abroad ... and here they are selling secret technology in the open ... and everyone is silent ...

[APASUS]

And who was asked for the last years of 20?

[MTR theme]

... well, they will not always be the same ... more patriotic may come to power, moreover, it’s real and not imaginary ... and then they will remember everything ... and who signed the permissions in the first place ... NATO so far we are not friends

[APASUS]

They didn’t ask Kozyrev, Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, where they didn’t even need to prove betrayal. And then they suddenly ask for some missiles, why suddenly?

[MTR theme]

In Russia, everything is cyclical ... executions are definitely waiting for someone ahead ...
Betrayal it and in Africa betrayal

[bolt]

Quote: APASUS

They didn’t ask Kozyrev, Gorbachev, Shevarnadze, where they didn’t even need to prove betrayal. And then they suddenly ask for some missiles, why suddenly?

Less pathos. And who of the Soviet officers was asked for betraying the party oath and oath? Also, by the way, you don't need to prove anything. "Ask yourself."

[Strelets1]

Quote: crashing

Less pathos. And who of the Soviet officers was asked for betraying the party oath and oath? Also, by the way, you don't need to prove anything. "Ask yourself."

Less dermo throwing, my dear. There is no need to thinly smear the responsibility of a group of specific traitors who essentially committed a coup in the capital for the rest of the country. And in particular to the Soviet Army and its officer corps. Regarding the military oath of the times of the USSR - read its text and try to find in it the obligation to protect the country from coups. The same is true of the 16-plus-million members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - who, in your opinion, are guilty of not waging another civil war in the country in 1991. As for the officers - the vast majority of them honestly did their duty - and then continue now. And you do not need to equal them with Oleg Kalugin, with the major tanker firing for the loot from the tank on the White House. How not to equalize the actions, the commander of the Alpha group, who refused to storm the White House and Pavel Grachev, who covered Yeltsin’s landing party with his group from arrest.
About "start with yourself." As an officer and a communist in 1991, I can answer for myself. What I did for the good of the country at that time, and did not betray it as you dreamed of something.
But you are unlikely ... judging by your liberal views (like "it's all to blame").

[hydrox]

Yes, only traitors need to be destroyed and betrayal must be burned out, going back to Soviet times, and only then Russia will have the right to punish all these Chubais, Gaidars, Potanins and Abramovichs with bills of exchange and friedmanes with fishing ...

[Digital error]

Quote: APASUS

And who was asked for the last years of 20?

From officials - from a few (completely frostbitten), from other citizens - in the form of an additional tax burden to compensate for failed "projects" ...

[Digital error]

Quote: MTR Topic

with the official will not ask?

At one of the Rostec enterprises, if I am not mistaken, Anatoly Serdyukov works. The nomenclature does not give up its own - they learned it in the Komsomol.

[AshiSolo]

And what to ask from him? He does not personally make decisions of this level. Anyway, it smells more like trolling in India: they say that the guys are cooperating, so we are ready to put all the buns to them. And with a sly, such, smirk :) Americans have long indulged in this, often rolling.

[Karabas]

Moreover, China has not yet announced its readiness to send its J-20s for export.

The Chinese are all right with their heads.

[URAL72]

The head has nothing to do with it. Can only hands? If they decide to sell it, the client will naturally test, and then ... Oh, what will happen, what will happen! The prestige of its Air Force is also expensive.

[hydrox]

Okay, but did they get a certificate for 1500 hours of resource for Soviet engines 30 years ago?

[Reserve officer]

It seems that the CEO of Rostec is commenting on issues that go beyond his competence. With all due respect, its level is the implementation of the agreements of the first persons of the states. And nothing more.

[bolt]

Quote: Reserve officer

It seems that the CEO of Rostec is commenting on issues that go beyond his competence.

Wrong conclusion. Since such things are publicly voiced, the decision on them by the country's leadership has already been taken.

[hydrox]

Quote: Stock Officer

its level is the implementation of the agreements of the first persons of the states.

It’s he who drank democracy too much, but without a snack, but he hadn’t managed to get a slap in the back :: the crack at the jump airfield was delayed by the lack of kerosene and was still on the way ...

[Observer2014]

Expressed readiness to make Turkey a partner of the S-500 Prometheus air defense project

Zhirinovsky "infection" was right here, about the S-700

[poquello]

Quote: Observer2014

C-700

no, cooler

[Observer2014]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Observer2014

C-700

no, cooler

What?

[poquello]

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: poquello

Quote: Observer2014

C-700

no, cooler

What?

cooler than c700, c500 is probably the last one on this principle (this is me, wang a little bit)

[Observer2014]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: poquello

Quote: Observer2014

C-700

no, cooler

What?

cooler than c700, c500 is probably the last one on this principle (this is me, wang a little bit)

AND!!!! That, I thought it a sinful thing, that I am one vanguard today

[hydrox]

Quote: Observer2014

Zhirinovsky "infection" was right here, about the S-700

Something too often he becomes right, do not you think?
Or does he have a notable insider source?
But what really amazed me was the content of his party's banner: "The Liberal Democratic Party is the party of workers!"
What, huh?

[Lena363]

Transfer secret technology to a NATO country? Complete insanity!

[Hagalaz]

I think such statements are not made without a signal from above. They want to pull Western influence out of orbit? Dangerous game.

[kotik77713]

Russia has no allies, only an army and a navy. Old "friends" are not clear!

[Giants]

Ankara will consider options for acquiring 5th generation aircraft in other countries. ” And there are only two such countries - Russia with the Su-57 and China with the J-20.
Russia has a lot of Su-57, so that their abroad and even the country of NATO, to deliver? Put at least a couple of regiments into service, then you’ll dismiss the tail, suppliers ...

[KCA]

Aircraft that, with a tray in the market trading? The contract is fulfilled for more than one year, but what about airplanes, cars, look, okay Aurus, you can say bastard Russia, but, say, BMW, after the announcement of the model and the prepaid order, you can wait two years, and this is not the limit, after two years you they will say - there is only a bright orange color, you want black or silver metallic - wait another year, the execution of the contract for SU-57E is easy for five years, seven years

[rocket757]

They may try to tie up for the manufacture of components! Not responsible. Turks at deliveries to the states can fly by.
How could you tie it, but somehow it is doubtful.
Although they make parts better than Chinese, yes.
In short, that mutoten and not for one year later!

[poquello]

Quote: rocket757

In short, that mutoten and not for one year later!

Yes, normal, saturation of the world with hypersonic missiles will not happen before five years, and the c400, c500 are now ready to take them, respectively, the saturation and research and development of further developments is more important

[rocket757]

Of course, no one is in a hurry to inform us, but even indirectly shows that NOBODY ANYTHING IS ANYTHING NEW in terms of air defense - it cannot offer ABM! If someone invents it is stored very deeply!
It is certainly correct to have such an ace up your sleeve, if sho. In the meantime, they improve, make smarter, more lethal, something that has long been used.
I think we’ll wait, we’ll see, as soon as so right away! Because percussion instruments go forward very seriously, we need a no less effective answer!

[kotik77713]

Strange, S-400 on credit, and S-500 partners? Question with payment, tomatoes or local lyre?

[Karabas]

Strange, S-400 on credit, and S-500 partners? Question with payment, tomatoes or local lyre?

You did not guess. The guarantor licks, the hunchbacked one also loved this business very much.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: kotik77713

Question with payment, tomatoes or local lyre?

Trump can get up from his left foot, impose sanctions on financial transactions (already in Turkey)
and then tomatoes will be problematic.

[kotik77713]

Russia Mother ....

[Yegorchik]

Does the fairytale shine again with strategic thinking?

[Krasnoyarsk]

= Also Chemezov added that in the Russian Federation they express their readiness to introduce Turkey into the project of creating a promising S-500 Prometheus air defense system. This system in the Russian Federation is at the final stage of development and, as previously reported, should soon begin to enter the troops. =
There are no words. Only one thing - fucking !!! I could still understand if they were introduced at the very initial stage of development, they say they themselves cannot be pulled in finance ... But connecting anyone, and especially Turks, at the final stage of development is ... I do not find a logical explanation for this ... Maybe our "thinkers" decided to tear the Turks away from NATO in this way? Failed plan. Mattress toppers will throw any bone to Erdogan and he will again be their obedient ally. And our dreamers will remain with their noses, as has happened more than once.

[Lapunevsky]

It's like the United States will sell the THAAD missile defense systems and technology to Belarus ...

[Roma 1977]

Nothing can be ruled out. Look into Lukashenko’s honest, shy eyes. Well, not now, but in 10 years. Well, he won’t sell it, but put his own, with NATO calculations. But nonetheless...

[Lapunevsky]

Honestly, after the Ukrainian events, I already do not exclude anything.

[hydrox]

The performer can broadcast anything, but it will not be a bone, but will only be a test balloon - all the bones are registered in the Kremlin and given out for a specific purpose - I don’t know what Russia can be promised to be the first to receive S-400 (500) !?

[bang bang]

Mr. Chemezov does not bother, because Turkey is a NATO member, okay ... is it beneficial to bring discord between the Turks and mattresses ... but the fact that they work closely with the ruin in the military sphere?

[hydrox]

Close cooperation is to get the Su-35 out of turn, or to negotiate for the S-500, and not put the wagon of army boots on hips.

[Alexvv]

Oh well, a prodigy like the S-500 can’t be sold to anyone else for at least 15 years

[NordUral]

Exactly, but Turkey is needed by traders, which is now in power in Russia. These anything and anyone will sell everything that is possible and what is impossible.

[Sergei 777]

Shame ..... Strategic developments are leaving the country.

[Alf]

Quote: Sergey 777

Shame ..... Strategic developments are leaving the country.

This is HPP.

[hydrox]

Wait GDP to find fault :: maybe everything is not so bad :: the second part of the contract that speaks about the timing and forms of payment for arms supplies?
What, no one has seen?
And then what kind of turuses on wheels to breed?

[hydrox]

Quote: hydrox

What, no one has seen?
And then what kind of turuses on wheels to breed?

Well, Yoly-Pali, how many liars have divorced on the portal :: there is nothing to say, "" So let me put a minus on him so that he doesn't seem smart to himself! "

[TIO1969]

But recently, Russia accused Erdogan and the Turkish leadership of all sins .... and now - best friends ...

"The Russian Defense Ministry said that a united team of bandits and Turkish elites is stealing oil in Syria," TASS reports.
“This oil in huge quantities, on an industrial scale, from living oil pipelines from thousands of fuel trucks enters the territory of Turkey,” said Deputy Minister of Defense Anatoly Antonov.
According to him, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is involved in the illegal production and transportation of Syrian and Iraqi oil to Turkey. “The main consumer of this stolen goods from legitimate owners - Syria and Iraq - is Turkey. According to reports, the country's top political leadership, President Erdogan and his family are involved in this criminal business, ”he said.

[hydrox]

So what?
Are Russian Potashkuns dragging our oil over the hill in the same way, and they put the money in their own pockets and something no one blames them for it in Russia ??

[NordUral]

Why, hydrox, I do this all the time, and today I said this, summarizing it, really.

[hydrox]

Either we talk a little about it, or it is inconclusive, but the number of liberds on the portal is growing and multiplying, and I see very few people decide to object to a liberde.

[NordUral]

But because we are cowards, after all, the portal has quieted down after the adoption of certain laws to insult good government, "slander" it, etc. I myself began to express my thoughts more carefully, but I try not to change the content and meaning. After all, we, the people and the country do not have much time left for the restoration of a powerful social State.

[hydrox]

Quote: NordUral

the people and the country do not have much time left for the restoration of a powerful social State.

Before embarking on the restoration, it is necessary to deal with 5 and 6 columns, and without Putin (or a similar figure in the highest authority) we won’t be able to do ANYTHING — but slowly begins to storm.

[NordUral]

So practically all "our" power is in these columns. Only some dress up as patriots, while others do not even consider it necessary to do so.

[NordUral]

Yes, Peter scared the authorities.

[NordUral]

I’ll add for a good mood, because not everything is lost for the people of Russia.
Russian girl from Siberia (daughter of ethnic Germans who came from the USSR, lights Germans with Russian songs at concerts in Germany. Those songs that have practically disappeared from the repertoire of Russian holidays.


We look at the reaction of the listeners and envy them, thanks to her they recognize us real, those who are trying to make us and the whole world forget about those who hate real multinational Russia with the name that unites us all - the Russian people.

[senima56]

".... we will only welcome the desire of the Turkish side to become a partner in the S-500 project." This "partner" has already hit us in the back! Do we need such a "partnership", especially in a super-modern development ?!

[Lapunevsky]

I apologize in advance, but either Rostec is the den of traitors and drains of critical military technologies to the ally of a potential enemy for the sake of stuffing their pockets, or hopeless fools.

[hydrox]

There’s another thing: this time, it seems, that Kremlin tower, which is controlled by the oligarchy, which metastasized to Landon, won ...
But there is another option: that the Sultan took the oath of allegiance to Russia and signed the text with blood!

[Lapunevsky]

The second - I will never believe. Believing Erdogan is like believing a hungry fox that she won't eat a chicken if you run her in a chicken coop.

[Nikolaevich I]

Mdaaaa .... as in that joke: "Trendy, here we go! Hello girls !"

[Tired]

There is a suspicion that we simply do not have money to implement our projects, so we are trying our best to agree on joint development with either India or Turkey.

[NordUral]

Tired! So maybe right with Trump and agree on this, why work with intermediaries, and even with those who are true to their word?

[armata_armata]

S-500 NATO, Uncle Putin I apologize but you

[Aliken]

Error. In vain.

[NordUral]

This is not a mistake, these are the enemies of the people above.

[Lesorub]

Chemezov also added that Russia expresses its readiness to introduce Turkey into the project of creating a promising S-500 Prometheus air defense system.

With such statements, Chemezov - went the line of the conceivable and not conceivable, it would be possible to understand cooperation with Turkey after leaving this NATO bloc and actively arm it - but selling super-latest complexes at the moment is Nonsense!

[gorenina91]

- Somehow Stalin was smart enough ... - "not to express the readiness" of Nazi Germany to make her a partner of the Katyusha project or the KV and T-34 tanks ... or other projects of powerful weapons of the Red Army ...
-So why is Russia today so diligently trying to arm such "far from friends" (but most likely ...- enemies) ... like Turkey and China with the most modern Russian weapons ... ?????

[arhPavel]

The correct position, even if we have to fight with Turkey, then the weapons are already known.
Ours understood that the United States, even if they had the same engine for missiles, su27 or c300 aircraft, did not do anything that could resist them.
Well, most likely, there is a breakthrough in quantum technology. And su57 and s500 need to be changed :))))

[NordUral]

When it breaks through, then sell! And then they themselves do not, but they are ready to pass on to a potential enemy.

[Old26]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Well, so that their dreams were not just a dream, but began to come true, let's drive them with the S-500, airplanes, which we and ourselves do not have, and it’s unlikely that we will get enough power, we’ll give them a gas pump.

It is interesting that in one case we believe that Muslims (in particular the Turks) should not sell new equipment, in another case there are many people who are eager to arm Iran. The same situation - you have to be extremely careful with such a neighbor. Questions of history - who and when was the enemy, of course, should not be forgotten, but to emphasize that since they were our enemies, then another 4 generations do not need to deal with them - a dead-end option. You just need to decide once and for all what can and cannot be sold. If we can in the future "tear" Turkey away from NATO or make it at least neutral, that is one thing. If this is not planned for the near future, decisions must be balanced. Of course, it’s worthwhile to put a pig on the United States, but what about next? Unfortunately, our forecasts have always been lame. And we often chose our allies with an emphasis on political motives, and not on the totality of politics, economics ...

In fact, the S-500 complex is not much different from the S-400 complex. The missile range is close. It is possible to use interceptor missiles in the S-500, but in any case, both radar systems and missiles will be in export modification. With trimmed performance characteristics. Whether it is necessary to bother with Turkey on the joint creation of the S-500E - honestly I don’t know. It is possible to "leave" them at the mercy of the creation of such an export system of radars, chassis, leaving behind the combat algorithms and the missiles themselves.
As for the SU-57 - the same thing. If there is a SU-57E with stripped-down specifications, especially on the basis of the engine of the first stage, which we will not go to the VKS - why not. But we must clearly imagine the line through which you can not cross. You can’t give the very latest, but you can’t underestimate too much TTX products. For there are options for Turkey. Now China does not sell the J-20 - after 3-5 years - easily. It is worth remembering that at one time Russia’s refusal to supply Turkey with a more modern modification of the S-300 led to the fact that the Chinese version of this system won the competition. And thanks to the Americans for insisting on freezing the deal. Now we sell them S-400

[NordUral]

"Ours" will play out with such partners.

[horror]

Our government for the money is ready to sell everything!

[23424636]

Yes, there is not enough money, but the Turks have always been enemies, except for the period of Soviet power, which gave them the Kars fortress and the territory around it, for which more than one thousand Russian soldiers died, with the hands of the Jewish Breststein in 1918 .. Giving high-tech secrets to a potential enemy member of NATO it’s a question, what preparations are you on, Comrade Chemezov?

[Victor1]

about the shot down plane and the killed ambassador "our" traders have already forgotten.
some who tried so loudly about tomatoes, but here is how it comes out in practice.