Stalin's approval level broke the historical record

A survey of Russian citizens conducted in March this year by the Levada Center on the topic of approval of the activities of Joseph Stalin brought unexpected results. As it turned out, the percentage of people who approve of the Soviet leader beat historical a record for all years of research on this topic, reports RBC with reference to the results of the survey.

A survey conducted by the Levada Center showed that in 2019, in total, 77% of Russian citizens treat Joseph Vissarionovich with approval or indifference. At the same time, 51% of those polled said that they view Stalin with "admiration, respect and sympathy." It is noted that the number of people who treated the Soviet leader with respect has grown by 12%. The number of people who were neutral or negative to Stalin has significantly decreased since the 2015 year.

70% of Russians surveyed said that Stalin played a "rather positive" or "entirely positive" role in the history of the country. 19% of respondents said about the negative role of the leader. The number of people who consider the “human sacrifices that the Soviet people suffered during the Stalin era" unjustified fell from 60 to 45%.

The study emphasizes that this level of approval by the leader of the USSR is an absolute record over the entire period of the respective surveys. It is noted that the level of a positive attitude towards Stalin is higher than that of Brezhnev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin and other heads of state.

Comments

[Aleks2048]

Well, everything is simple ... For most people in the Russian Federation, Stalin is associated with the power of their homeland. Yes, in the days of Stalin, the USSR meant a lot on the world stage ... Moreover, it so happened that Stalin was put up as the leader who instantly and simply solved all issues and no one interfered with him ... Although this is so far from history. Most of those who really worked under Stalin died.

[Sergej1972]

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

[rocket757]

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

FOUNDATIONS, FOUNDATIONS, were laid earlier, during the reign of Stalin!
And let someone try to PROVE that this is not so!

[Greg Miller]

Under the Soviet regime, I was not a special supporter of Stalin, but after living under the Yeltsin and Putin democrats, I became an ardent Stalinist ...

[Ptolemy Lag]

Exactly! Everything is relative. Today I am an ardent Stalinist!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Ptolemy Lag

Everything is relative.

And to compare historically for a long time there is something and with whom!

[Tatyana]

Quote: Greg Miller

Under the Soviet regime, I was not a special supporter of Stalin, but after living under the Yeltsin and Putin democrats, I became an ardent Stalinist ...

Yes, now surely many regret that in 1991 Stalin was not in the Soviet country!

[keeper03]

Yes, Tatyana, unfortunately, what was afraid and did not allow I. V. Stalin, Yeltsin and others like them have achieved, and nowadays, the case of the drunkard lives and thrives, although they are trying to hang noodles and hide it in every possible way!

[Shurik70]

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

??? !!
In fact, the MOST peak of the power of the USSR fell ... on everyone Khrushchev.
Gagarin flew. They installed missiles in Cuba. For the first time we agreed on the Open Sky program. People from the barracks began to be resettled in "Khrushchevs". Yes, it was all under Stalin, but the peak was reached under Khrushchev.
But Brezhnev is a stagnation. The beginning and, practically, the end of the USSR

[Captain Nemo]

USSR: Soviet power 1937-1953.

[Pax tecum]

Stalin's approval level broke the historical record

It seems that people began to read more serious literature or (most likely) to watch serious historical and analytical programs, programs.
After all, it is not one protest consciousness and mood that beliefs are based on, I think so.

[asher]

But rather, people began to watch LESS that squalor that our filmmakers and television science fiction writers stamp. There is such a nausea that even without much agitation it is clear where the truth is. And the successes in the personal enrichment of officials and thieves of businessmen at all levels are visible to the naked eye and do not require analysis: is all this "earned" by righteous labor?

[The Siberian barber]

I think the majority of those who lived in the USSR, who laughed at the "Sovok" in the kitchen, share your position))
"we do not value what we have, but having lost we cry" (c)

[NordUral]

Tears pouring late! But it’s not too late, until it’s too late, to vote with all the people and sweep all this filth out of power. Do not sit at home when the election, but go to the polls, vote for a candidate from the people, check the progress of voting and counting. Then we will win.

[Campanella]

That's right, scum has occupied power! And she doesn’t want to tear herself away from the trough voluntarily.

[Vlad 63]

For you picture

[Vladtrigu]

Quote: Vlad 63

For you picture

Now understood

[Vlad 63]

Now understood

Not quite yet. But already we begin to understand.

[Tavrik]

Cool poster! I want this in St. Petersburg!

[Petrograd]

Quote: Tavrik

Cool poster! I want this in St. Petersburg!

In St. Petersburg (for me and Leningrad, which is equivalent), it is high time for him to immortalize his memory, but alas, the place and "foolishness" are enough only to hang Mannerheim's tablets. And Stalin is reproached for senseless resistance, they say, they would have surrendered Leningrad and there were no victims of the Blockade. Here's how not to spit in the face of this p ... (sorry admins) .. um, there is no other word. Everyone even, in today's Gazmyasov elite, forget that Stalin-Generalissimo, why His name is so purposefully and dirtyly "erased" from history, Shoigu-alley, you build a temple on taxes with steps from captured fascist technology, and who led the country and achieved "the appearance "trophies?
The grave of the "despot" -

and the grave, where all the trash ruins
Ah, this is the work of other deputies

clean the ears

when not to scratch something

[NordUral]

But not everything is right. Some of us take one gentleman for the new Stalin. So I’ll say this - and in vain!

[naidas]

Well, this is understandable, it is not clear who such friends of the people are?

[Vladtrigu]

Quote: Greg Miller

Under the Soviet regime, I was not a special supporter of Stalin, but after living under the Yeltsin and Putin democrats, I became an ardent Stalinist ...

executions of high ranks destroying and plundering the country, plus confiscation of their property wherever it is, will save Russia and the Russian people from disaster

[Pax tecum]

"The highest measure of social justice" - such a concept existed under Stalin in the USSR Criminal Code.
The current government, pseudo-elite and capital are afraid and will not allow this concept.

[Petrograd]

Quote: Vladtrigu

executions of high ranks destroying and plundering the country, plus confiscation of their property wherever it is, will save Russia and the Russian people from disaster

They use not only them, but also their relatives, "", officially there is nothing like we have in the city of Volkhov, but contracts for road repairs, for construction, they receive firms, where the leaders and co-founders are all like a son then nephew, then daughter.

[bang]

Under the Soviet regime, I was not a special supporter of Stalin, but after living under the Yeltsin and Putin democrats, I became an ardent Stalinist ...

Joke remembered.
They found the diary of a gentleman who had been married 10 times.
The entry for the first wife: "My wife is a living devil in a skirt!"
Record about the last wife: "Lord, if my wife even a tenth resembled the first, she would be an angel."

under the Yeltsin and Putin democrats
If not for Gorbachev, there would have been no Yeltsin.

[Vladtrigu]

Quote: bang-bong

If not for Gorbachev, there would have been no Yeltsin.

and if not for the Andropov, there would be no Gorbach

[kefan]

The exact same story happened to me

[Campanella]

Here you’ll not only become a Stalinist ... But you want to become an executioner-a sadist.
These ruling dodges now want to introduce paid traffic lights! The Liksutov affair lives and thrives.
And if they (the government) conduct digitalization in the country, then I’m afraid I will start to take taxes for irregular rapid breathing, for slanting looks, etc., etc.

[Petrograd]

Quote: Campanella

And if they (the government) conduct digitalization in the country, then I’m afraid I will start to take taxes for irregular rapid breathing, for slanting looks, etc., etc.

For the use of groundwater there is already a bill, there is a well on the site - please buy a license (pay a tax in the future).
For harmful effects on the environment, has already been adopted. Farted (sorry for not comme il faut) pay. Are the state fools ready to pay for bunches of food emitted daily (after lunch for 10-20 rubles, which include products not from "fives" and "magnets" and other resellers of old and non-GOST items, similar to food)? Although, havchik is good, maybe they don’t farts?

[mashinist]

and would live under Stalin would be against him because brought a lot of grief

[Vladtrigu]

Pogans hate him

[Stas157]

in 2019 year total 77% Russian citizens treat Joseph Vissarionovich with approval

The same number of people voted for Putin in the last election. (Although Putin and Stalin are figures of different orders and Stalin would hardly approve of the current president’s policies pursued in the interests of the oligarch’s friends) But the question is, will Putin be approving of the same percentage of citizens after his departure or will he change?

[BecmepH]

Quote: Stas157

But the question is, will Putin be approving of the same percentage of citizens after he leaves, or will he change?

Great question!

[bayard]

If Medvedev, Kudrin or Dvorkovich replaces him, Putin’s rating will be overtaken by Stalin one year after leaving.
Everything is learned in comparison, and our alternatives are now completely bad ... But the fact that Stalin's positive rating - 77%, speaks of the social order of the Society and that in the case of the so-called. "left turn" support from the people is provided.

[jjj]

Quote: bayard

But the fact that Stalin's positive rating is 77% indicates the social order of the Society and that in the case of the so-called. "left turn" support from the people is provided.

I think that a certain "free hand" given to the so-called liberals is part of the general idea of ​​bringing Russia to life. In fact, sociology shows that drastic measures are favored. But the socialism that the Trotskyists drew and tried to promote, where everything was built for the sake of an ephemeral ideology, will no longer exist. I believe that the development of the state will follow the Stalinist path. Only not because of the way the same Trotskyists caricatured him.
Nothing is forgotten. And for the market will have to answer

[bayard]

Quote: jjj

I think that a certain "free hand" given to the so-called liberals is part of the general idea of ​​bringing Russia to life.

Exactly . Now the liberal government is driving the people into white heat and forming the "How long!" ... And at the same time, arrests of certain odious characters are taking place to test the reaction ... The rotation of the governor's level managers, purges in the bodies continue ... the rearmament of the Army ...
And yes, it is the Stalin-type state — a multistructure economy with state planning and state ownership of all strategic sectors, with free enterprise in small and medium-sized businesses — that is the only possible state for the successful development of the Russian State.

[Stas157]

Quote: bayard

If Medvedev, Kudrin or Dvorkovich comes to replace him, Putin's rating one year after leaving will kill Stalin .

And no one else. There are no good boyars nearby. I wonder whose merit in this? But, here is the fact that Stalin's will interrupt Putin's rating - I deeply doubt it.

Quote: bayard

Everything is relative

Indeed, Putin was only good against the background of his predecessor, Yeltsin. Also, under Yanukovych, Ukrainians lived much better. But, with a kind word, no one remembers him in Ukraine. And in Russia, after the guarantor left, the inflated outrageous ratings suddenly give up. After all, they will inflate to others.

[bayard]

All alternatives are now not even bad, but very bad.
Or do you offer Grudinin for the "kingdom"? Or maybe Plptoshkina? These are all from the same sleeve of the State Department.
You need to be guided not by emotions (I also do not like pension reform very much), but by a sound analysis of the situation, taking into account all possible alternatives - to the decisions already made. Perhaps I know a little more than you in this regard - in terms of implicit factors of influence, but believe me, if he made decisions as you would like, the consequences would turn out to be much, much worse than it is.
And who told you that all the negatives now accepted are eternal?
Politics is the art of the POSSIBLE.
"I have a desire to buy a house, but I have no opportunity.
I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but ... I have no desire ... "
So let’s drink for the OPPORTUNITIES of the leadership of our State to coincide with the desire and aspiration of its People!
And may the punishing hand of the Law eradicate all "criminal communities" embedded in the administrative apparatus and the entire body of the Russian State.

[sunzhenets]

Quote: bayard

Or do you offer Grudinin for the "kingdom"? Or maybe Plptoshkina? These are all from the same sleeve of the State Department.

All who do not agree with the divine Putin are agents of the State Department! And Satan! It is obvious.
The pro-government media of Grudinin so diligently smear black that it convinces me - he has prospects, and not 15% voted for him at all in the elections.

Quote: bayard

Perhaps I know a little more than you in this regard - in terms of implicit factors of influence, but believe me, if he made decisions as you would like, the consequences would turn out to be much, much worse than it is.

I would like our government to develop industrial production in Russia. And created the promised millions of jobs. How can this get worse?

[bayard]

Quote: Sunflower

I would like our government to develop industrial production in Russia. And created the promised millions of jobs. How can this get worse?

So about these "millions of new jobs" and it came from Putin's decrees. Who is sabotaging? Now the "Zvezda" is being built in Bolshoy Kamen, hundreds of billions have been put on the altar of the domestic shipbuilding industry, infrastructure programs for them ... and people don't go there ... and don't go ... Why? Because salaries there - in uninhabited and uncultured places - are offered as in an ordinary Russian province. And thus the liberal executors, while successfully assimilating the allocated funds, also successfully sabotage the implementation of the main task - the creation of a powerful shipbuilding cluster in the Far East.
Who's guilty ?
Government The Medvedev government with comrades. Consciously engaged in sabotage, sabotage and profanity. And pension reform, and new taxes - all from them. Isn't it obvious?
In the 30s, Stalinist industrialization was sabotaged by the Trotskyists and the other 5th column from the former. Very actively engaged in this. But the USSR then had its own IDEOLOGY and its emission center. The country could lend itself and finance its grandiose projects.
Modern Russia DOES NOT HAVE ALL THIS - according to the Constitution! The Central Bank is a branch of the US Federal Reserve - a banal joint-stock company with external management and immunity from the State under its own Constitution. And Ideology in Russia is FORBIDDEN - according to the Constitution.
To change all this, it is necessary not only to change / change the Constitution, but also to completely change the elite - in the economy, finance, the state apparatus of the economic and social bloc. And to whom to change? Are there any personnel? They are ready ? In the required quantity and quality?
If you try to do everything at once, you can’t do without a civil war. And she will kill the state, and then the people will be destroyed. What is needed here is a balance in means and actions, and a phased deprivation of the calaborators of their influence, a gradual and systematic squeezing of them from the state. apparatus and business, from the Army and law enforcement agencies. With the same systematic and consistent filling of these structures with trusted, competent and responsible personnel. About this is done. It is done without attracting too much attention and not creating a collapse in management.
But what comes of this, wait and see.

[sunzhenets]

Quote: bayard

So about these "millions of new jobs" and it came from Putin's decrees

The main thing is to say. "Complete collection of Vladimir Putin's promises", volume 5, p. 248. And it is not necessary to do it.

Quote: bayard

Who's guilty ?
Government The Medvedev government with comrades. Consciously engaged in sabotage, sabotage and profanity.

The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation is appointed by the President. Deputy Prime Minister and federal ministers are appointed and dismissed by the President at the suggestion of the Chairman of the Government (Federal Law "On the Government of the Russian Federation). The leader is to blame for appointing people who cannot cope with their duties and continues keep them in these positions, despite the incompetence and failure to comply with the orders of the head.

Quote: bayard

And pension reform, and new taxes - all from them. Isn't it obvious?

It’s not obvious to me. You want to say that the President is not aware of what the government is doing? Didn't GDP Sign Pension Reform Law?
The mantra "the king is good, the boyars are bad" no longer works.

[bayard]

Such "fiery" ones had already overthrown "Nicholas the Bloody" and demanded a "shvoboda". And they got the Civil War, devastation and all kinds of terror - white, red, green, from the invaders ... hunger. We got out ...
Then they killed / overthrew Stalin - a tyrant, the GULAG, "there is no freedom" - they got the curtailment of Stalinist programs, a monetary reform with impoverishment almost 2,5 times, the collapse of the communist movement, the failure of the USSR's authority in the world ... and the gradual drainage of the Great Country into the toilet Perestroika and democracy ...

You are a revolutionary, my friend. And Russia will not stand another revolution.
Just work in your place, do your duties well, or simply do something assigned. Or just be useful if you are a "free Cossack" - an entrepreneur. Don't shake the country. There is someone to take care of her. Otherwise, it will turn out worse than under Khrushchev or Yeltsin - it will be like under Trotsky, the old Trotsky who went off the rails.

[Morphius]

What do you say, work, talk about the VAT, I hope you know about other taxes you know, do you even know about fishing taxes ??? our government is simply already scorching and doesn’t know what tax to introduce yet, it will soon be on childhood and childlessness ..

[AU Ivanov.]

What other fishing tax? Stop fakes duplicating. Not a tax has been introduced, but the catch rates per face. Which existed in the Soviet Union. And yes, if you are catching for sale - be so kind as to pay tax as an entrepreneur. And if I start planting for electric fishing rods and nets, I will personally applaud the lawmakers. Childless tax? Yes it was, he paid in Soviet times.

[2 Level Advisor]

as I understand you are not a fisherman, just not in the subject. an example specially for you. If you went fishing the day, in principle, everything is normal there with the catch, it fits into the daily norm by and large .. what if in Astrakhan? yes 3-5 days? yes with friends? the fish caught by all will not fit in the standard (and it is one-day), but how to prove that you caught it in a day, and with friends and not for sale, is not provided by law. and yes .. in our company not a single fish is being traded and we go fishing there a couple of times a year. in fact, this is a fishing tax. we go fishing - the daily rates per person do not exceed, and the tax is charged, it is a fact!

[bayard]

For this, the government is being expelled, for that it infuriates the people - it provokes rebellion. And you are being fought.
For good, you will not turn your initiative, rebellion will only ruin the state and destroy the people. The TOP should be stripped. And she will be. I’m saying that we have to wait - until the end of this year the conditions are unlikely to be ready. But from the future - completely.
Therefore, hysteria is in the camp of the liberals, and therefore they rush at all costs — now, while still in power. They will also introduce taxes on air and rain - they will become tax-free.

[vlad106]

Quote: bayard

rebellion will only ruin the state and destroy the people. Top cleaning must occur

Absolutely agree! It is CLEARING. And it is TOP. From the very top, thoroughly, sparing no one. On top of the villains and thieves. Decent people from the management pushed boors and robbers. Now the task of them is to liquidate, or to squeeze out with the subsequent direction to logging sites and mines

[2 Level Advisor]

nice man, and ktozh there suddenly appear and begin this cleaning? or do you manage the question of reviving Stalin in the laboratory and the process is almost over?

[Vladtrigu]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

and ktozh there suddenly appears and begins this cleaning?

ready to head the People’s Control Committee with all powers))
there is experience in the service in Soviet times on the protection of construction objects using prisoners. At that time I felt sorry and helped many accidentally caught (stumbled).
And also there is experience in training specialists of the UIS guards already in modern times.
Although I’ve been retired for a long time, I wouldn’t be too lazy to personally work for some time as a security guard-supervisor for overseeing work with Kyle in the mines of all kinds of Zakharchenkov-Chubais

[2 Level Advisor]

Well, if so, I'm just for it! I think the team would quickly pick up on such a thing)

[Campanella]

This is your epic - "Just work" enrages. You will learn to pay, not only to oligarchs, but to those who really create material values. And it turns out that in our country only oligarchs, top managers and the president "just work", so much so that the sweatshirt is wrapped up. And the rest are sitting around their necks.
Sad, cynical, unscrupulous Russian reality ....

[bayard]

Are you going to pay me? I now live in Donetsk, and I am not even a citizen of Russia, although I did not hand over my Soviet passport. The former Ukraine was also rocked against oligarchs, "corruption", "criminal panda" ... And then "unknown snipers" appeared, the "panda" fled and the long-awaited civil war for the West began.
How many people died and there is no end in sight, nor a solution to the question. After all, after Crimea, we decided that the reconstruction of a single state had begun, people without weapons stopped military convoys ... Referendum ... Air strikes in cities and ... The war, the real one, is not lower in artillery density than in WWII during large battles. Especially January-February 2015 ... And he buried his comrades in the Donetsk cemetery ...

You probably don’t understand that Russia just won’t be left alone ... Learn to enjoy a peaceful life while you have the opportunity, do your own thing, family, children, relatives and friends ... I haven’t seen my fifth year.

And do not get fooled by provocations. Everything will be fine ... someday ... when we win.

[Campanella]

We are not being led, but the government should understand the measure and its responsibility, and not eat at the throat of both Ukraine and Russia, otherwise no common sense will help. A man will someday give slack.
As for the Donbass, I personally could not understand the position of President Putin, who actually abandoned him. It is possible he has global plans in this regard, but he cannot believe it.
I agree with you that the boat is the west, but Russia has only one way out of raising the economy, and in this sense, Putin doesn’t succeed, or doesn’t want, or can’t, but without this the West will break Russia.

[bayard]

Yes, no one left us in the Donbass. They just froze the conflict as best they could - until better times, because now no good solution will come out - it will be either bad or very bad - the blood is big. We understand this and therefore are waiting. When something changes in Russia and the world - to the good, of course. No worse than waiting.
And finally, we have been balancing on the brink of a great war since the year 14. I'm not joking, but I know for sure how many times we almost broke. Appreciate this time gained from the war.
With the economy, everything is very difficult. Read what I wrote above. This sabotage is direct and undisguised, with a challenge and aplomb. And the Trotskyists behaved like this before Stalin - until 1938, and even then they did not identify and neutralize everyone - in 1953 they took revenge. History exists in order to learn its lessons, draw conclusions, and not make previous mistakes.
Russia is not at all in the position that the USSR in the 30s - neither ideology, nor sovereignty in the financial sphere, the Constitution was written by the Americans in the 93rd, there is no complete control over all strategic sectors - capitalism ittit. This is reality . In order to turn the tide of Russia, it is necessary to find internal and external stability, rotate management personnel (governors are replaced by packs, and still need to take control of everything on the ground), rearm the Army (so that no one even has a thought to move the curve when the changes begin), to clear personnel in law enforcement agencies, dig up a coin (to untie the ruble from the dollar and make it a full-fledged currency), launch and debug your Swift analogue (so that the banking and economic system does not crash if disconnected), even your rune t start, without control from the USA. And what hegemon will allow all this to be done with impunity? Here are the sanctions (they really slow down the economy), the sabotage of all their agents in the Russian government.
And is it not visible what is being done? One operation to lure and arrest Abyzov is worth what. And pull this rope - the whole government and comrades will land on the bunks, if not to the shooting wall, if the maratorium is canceled (but it would be necessary). The prosecutor's office began checking 16 defense industry enterprises and their allies for sabotage, embezzlement, and the involvement of their top managers in criminal international structures such as the Scientologists sect ...
People work.
And we all need to work in our places.

[Campanella]

This is all true. But Putin is obviously not Stalin. Stalin's reforms are definitely not Putin's "jerks".
And most importantly, Putin is building capitalism for his own people, and you yourself understand this not for the people, but for the capitalists.
Putin does not hear the will and opinion of the people, I am not for the revolution, but believe the leader who does not take into account the will of the people ceases to be a leader and leads the country to revolution ... And only cynics and hypocrites can blame us for this people.
And an example of imperious stupidity is the fight against traffic jams by paid parking and the new season paid traffic lights .....

[bayard]

Quote: Campanella

And an example of imperious stupidity is the fight against traffic jams by paid parking and the new season paid traffic lights .....

Fun you live ...
And about the rest - there is a game for a while, to win time, just like on the eve of WWII. Stalin then won several years (if you count from the war in Spain) and managed to somehow prepare the country for war ... Now it’s much worse than then - the fifth column is uncleaned, it has fun ... But from the fact that in Ukraine you are going on while the glory of God is delivered ... but it could ...
And the anger of the people - it is fair and righteous, only the vector would not be confused in its application. These gags are still those manipulators - they are not used to turning them with such a vector.

And it is also important to remember that under the Constitution, the President of Russia is responsible for (and directs):
- foreign policy
- defense
- power ministries and departments

And for the economy - the government, which Medvedev and Co.
For legislation - the Duma, which is still the Duma, judging by the laws and legislative initiatives.

And the President is also a "guarantor of the Constitution" so that all this disgrace is unchanged, as the Americans wrote ...
This is sad.

[Campanella]

Oh, I don’t even know what to say. So then it is, but the president has absolute power. He himself once said that he was responsible for everything in the country. Yes, there is no Medvedev, he is responsible for the economy, but Putin put him, and this, you understand, means first-person responsibility. Moreover, Putin himself assessed the results of Medvedev's work well.

[Victor Orthodox]

“As for Donbass, I personally could not understand the position of President Putin, who actually abandoned him. It is possible that he has global plans in this regard, but I can’t believe it.”
Yes, Putin didn’t leave the Donbass, so much dough has already been poured into it, so much weapons have been delivered.
Putin just needs a frozen conflict in Ukraine, so that it will not be accepted into NATO, this is a way of self-defense from NATO and influence on Ukraine. Everything, nothing more, people there do not care about either side.
It was especially funny to read about Crimea, whose inhabitants decided to join Russia without knowing it. No, I understand that now you can’t drag the inhabitants of Crimea to Ukraine by force. I understand why Putin did this, this is self-defense, and there were no other options.

[2 Level Advisor]

Yes, if there weren’t so many resources in Russia, with Ukraine, the bottom of the race would probably have broken through with this approach to governing the country .. thank God they are ..

[2 Level Advisor]

but let's develop your thoughts and cancel the cancellation of sites such as VO in the internet ... but what .. nefig here .. otherwise it will choose not to .. and you need to work and not think .. yes?

[bayard]

VO is my favorite site, don’t catch it.
You need to work thinking, carefully and responsibly - without marriage and in pleasure - for the benefit of people

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

otherwise it will not choose that one ..

For Putin, this is not relevant - he has a deadline. So choose health - cowards, socks, deputies to the Duma, if you have the right to vote.

[Evil echo]

How famously minus you seem to conspiracy.

[bayard]

Yes, passers-by seem to have accepted me for a deputy or a member of the cabinet of ministers. Alas for them - I am not even a citizen of Russia, although I was born in the Urals. I live in Donetsk and I have my own opinion on these dances against the "criminal panda". After the "pension reform", VAT and new taxes, they (professional dancers) now have a lot of freedom - I don't want to.
But I have my own view of these dances with tambourines - pension reform, VAT, mocking taxes, laws and regulations ... All this is for the country to go into pieces and destroy itself - like 1991.
I'm against .

[Evil echo]

no, it looks like there is a dominance of pseudo-patriots who, hiding behind the name of the leader, push the ideas of "maydanut"

[bayard]

Quote: Evil Echo

no, it looks like there is a dominance of pseudo-patriots who, hiding behind the name of the leader, push the ideas of "maydanut"

Not without this, and to a large extent. They are pumping the country, young people are calling for a riot - they say, stand under the banner of Stalin! , "Putin is to blame for everything", "Give Platoshkin, since Grudinin is not good enough", "Give the communist paradise at once and NOW."
Let them dance, since the country is not a road.
And there are also a lot of trolls here - from the former fraternal side - adjacent to us (Donetsk residents) along the front line.

[Evil echo]

in recent years their number has increased in multiples, throwing a crowd to minus

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sunflower

he has prospects,

Sit for ten years.

Quote: Sunflower

so diligently smeared black

So, that there to smear something, and so above a head. Huckster - and huckster in Africa.

[sunzhenets]

Quote: Paranoid50

Huckster - and huckster in Africa.

BARG, and the husband. and wives. (simple. contempt.). Speculator, reseller (explanatory dictionary Ozhegova). In criminal jargon - a stolen buyer (outdated), a drug dealer.
Do not use words whose meanings you do not understand.
Near the Moscow Ring Road in 1990 there were about a hundred state farms. And where are they all? And at Grudinin's economy lives, and lives well. So life has proved that Grudinin is a good leader, not a huckster.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sunflower

a good leader, not a huckster.

[Evil echo]

starving starburst, found a new lamp

[NordUral]

I support you, Konstantin! I voted for Pavel Grudinin and will again vote for him if he goes to power. Such as he will make (as a team, develops) a country such that it will not be embarrassing and scary to look at what I posted below.
This is China, where oligarchs and communists, or maybe just communist oligarchs, are building the future of their country. All the people, and do not poke on the nightstands, like the Moscow undead.

But it could be species from our Siberia, but it did not grow. Rats have invaded the country and feasting on the remains of Stalin’s great heritage.

The entire Internet is filled with clips of grandiose construction projects in China. The plan and greatness of the true leaders of the country. In addition to the mat there is nothing about these that are ruled by Russia, or rather its remnants!

[NordUral]

Administrator!

Explain why I am forced to read this:

[DEDPIHTO]

Yes, everything is fine, the time for post fixes has simply run out.

[Yves762]

SW bayard, your entire post is a close-to-text abstract of the slag that people are rubbing (24 / 7) through pro-government media.

[bayard]

Well, you also need to drive, more blood ... As in Ukraine. There, too, the fiery power took, not your brothers in mind?

[Yves762]

Quote: bayard

Well, you also need to drive, more blood ... As in Ukraine. There, too, the fiery power took, not your brothers in mind?

And this is also slag from a zombie.
Do you even try to use your head. May like it ...

[NordUral]

Why in the blood, it’s possible in the elections, if all the people are united.

[bayard]

Here I am about that. Now the government and the Duma are emanating from the feces, so that the people can be shaken by riots.
And these "activists" have one "slag" in their heads - take it out and put it out, now and immediately. I am writing from Donetsk and on myself and my friends and family I know what it is like to be in a country that has gone crazy in which "activists" are jumping, artillery covers the cities, children and old people are dying ... a war that has no end in sight ... it is seen . And I do not wish that to you. Learn at least from other people's mistakes - an example is nearby. Just ignore the provocateurs from the authorities and in the network, go about your business, families, children ... Otherwise, lose everything. Like me and my friends, who have homes and everything that was on that front line. In a war that does not exist and will not end for a long time ... Appreciate the world and what you have. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.

[antique]

Quote: bayard

Well, you also need to drive, more blood ... As in Ukraine. There, too, the fiery power took, not your brothers in mind?

Tired of it. Shut up kremlynysh.

[bayard]

I am writing from Donetsk. And for me, blood, death and the destruction of the state is by no means a metaphor.
Well dare the fiery, this is your state.

[antique]

Quote: bayard

I am writing from Donetsk. And for me, blood, death and the destruction of the state is by no means a metaphor.
Well dare the fiery, this is your state.

We know they passed. "Hello, I'm an officer's wife ..." 'Electronic pudding troops.

[bayard]

Who you are is not important to me, even his dog (an officer of unknown troops).
And I am a Soviet officer in Donetsk since 2014. Well, you're definitely not one of ours. Are they paying well?

[vlad106]

Quote: bayard

Putin’s rating will be overtaken by Stalin one year after leaving.

If all the thieves who plundered and destroyed the country, even from its closest circle, begin to plant, then the rating will probably increase.
To tolerate the robbery of the country and the mockery of bureaucrats against the people is already impossible.
By the way, recent legislative initiatives and legislators should also be dealt with.

[Morphius]

I read that it’s also fashionable for them who in the meeting should definitely come up with some kind of nonsense like the law, well, so that there was something to do, but not what they should, for example, one wanted to introduce a ban on socks on long-distance trains, it stinks)))) think who is in power ..

[NordUral]

Do not demand from a person the opposite of his essence, Vlad.

[NordUral]

As for the left turn, I agree, but as for Putin's rating in such a situation, I strongly disagree! How does he deserve it in this version?

[Roman070280]

hardly approved

Ha .. just Putin and his friends Stalin would be the first to shoot !!

[Morphius]

from the first call ... without trial ..

[sunzhenets]

Quote: Stas157

The same number of people voted for Putin in the last election.

No need to draw conclusions from coincidences. I respect Comrade Stalin very much, and that is why I did not vote for Putin (like most of my friends).
Putin's 77% - artistic whistle.

[Igoresha]

The same number of people voted for Putin in the last election.

it is unknown how many voted and counted 95% of GDP as indicated above (Belgorod oblast)

[Morphius]

all these election bullshit, it’s checked, most likely everything is fine on the ballot boxes, but I didn’t get the ballot boxes, when I voted for Karelin in our district, no one voted, everyone knew who he was, and he passed with one hundred percent support , and our president, if you don’t vote, but what about the floor ......)))

[NordUral]

Bullshit with a submissive population. And if the People come to the polls in a united rush, vote and arrange election control, then these people will not argue with him, the people, who so far have successfully bred and divided us.

[Campanella]

Voting must be made not secret, but open! Then the Shandets will come to power from these capitalists.

[NordUral]

This is unrealistic, Campanella, but control can and should be organized.

[NordUral]

76 is in the best case a delusion (ours), in the worst case a crime (of the highest).

[Tatyana]

The study emphasizes that this level of approval of the leader of the USSR is ABSOLUTE RECORD for the entire duration of the relevant surveys.

It could not be otherwise! Stalin himself spoke of this historical approval by the people in the future construction of socialism in the country!

[BecmepH]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

FOUNDATIONS, FOUNDATIONS, were laid earlier, during the reign of Stalin!
And let someone try to PROVE that this is not so!

At the same time, 51% of the respondents said that they treat Stalin with "admiration, respect and sympathy"

With each passing year, I begin to treat Comrade Stalin with admiration more and more ...

[Morphius]

It was a difficult time, not only did they win, so much did they do that no one else did ..

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

Don't talk nonsense! Brezhnev inherited everything. The USSR continued to move by inertia after I.V. Stalin.
You forget what happened to Stalin I.V.
It seems to me that the people are ready for the arrival of a "tough hand".
Everything is ready for the arrival of Shoigu, only now he is not I.V. Stalin, and with 15 rubles and old pickaxes, he will not die. This is a member of the Yeltsin gang.
T.ch. people are getting ready! : ((

[RUSS]

Quote: Oleg14774

only now he is not I.V. Stalin and with 15 rubles and old pickaxes he will not die

The welfare of Stalin cannot be considered separately from the wealth of the whole country as a whole. The Generalissimo was on full state support. They paid for the maintenance of numerous dachas, houses and apartments, as well as the services of doctors, cooks and governesses. Stalin did not even know how much was spent from the state treasury on all of the above.
Due to the fact that Stalin lived on everything ready, he sometimes did not even know how much it cost. According to his daughter Svetlana Alliluyeva, his father thought that 100 rubles, as before the revolution, was a huge amount. “Therefore, when he gave me 2-3 thousand, he thought he was giving a million,” Svetlana admitted.
By the end of the reign, Stalin's salary was about 10 thousand rubles. Only the most prominent scientists - academics and professors - received the same amount. Stalin put money in bags on his desk. There was nowhere to put them, except to pay another party fee in the amount of 300 rubles. In addition to his salary, Stalin regularly received royalties for his writings. His books were published including abroad.

[Ptolemy Lag]

Don't bullshit

[antique]

Quote: RUSS

The Generalissimo was on full state support. They paid for the maintenance of numerous dachas, houses and apartments, as well as the services of doctors, cooks and governesses.

And Putin? And all his entourage? The Kremlin gnome does not know, and does not want to know how the people of Russia live. This was well evidenced by the episode of his meeting with the workers of the Zvezda shipyard. When he refused to believe about the workers' wages of 30 thousand rubles. I thought that the average salary of workers is 90000 rubles.

[4ybys]

It is not worth referring to the "authoritative" opinion of the "whistleblowers" sponsored by grants. By the way, the Stalinist premium was paid from the very "money in packages" that he "did not know what to do with."
So if you yourself are in error, do not put a shadow on the wattle fence.

[Morphius]

Read Solzhenitsyn, Stalin even knew by what principle the artel was built, don’t it?

[naidas]

The wages of workers in 1953 ranged from 800 to 3000 and above rubles.
Miners and metallurgists-Stakhanovites received at that time up to 8000 rubles. per month.
The salary of a young specialist engineer was 900 - 1000 rubles, the senior engineer - 1200-1300 rubles.
The secretary of the CPSU district committee received 1500 rubles per month.
The salary of the Union Minister did not exceed 5000 rubles, the salaries of professors and academics were higher, often exceeding 10000 rubles.

[naidas]

Quote: RUSS

In addition to his salary, Stalin regularly received royalties for his writings. His books were published including abroad.

In 1935, Stalin did not pay contributions (there is a scan of a party card on the internet) there was no monthly income.
In 1952, only salary contributions, there is no fact of receiving fees.

[Morphius]

I support and add, right now the country is working for the capitalists, but just like that they will not give up power ..

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

Why are you lying? What for? It was Brezhnev who brought mold into the party foundations, magnifying his merits (at the suggestion of the entourage). Everyone saw and knew his "great" role both in the Victory over fascism and in other processes of socialist construction. It was under Brezhnev that negative attitudes towards the country's leadership began to form. And Brezhnev's stagnation is not only a rise in prices for non-essential goods. This is the usual stupidity of the masses by copying lies, falsehood, arrogance.
It was under him that "sausage trains" were formed to Moscow and mass speculation (blat) arose.

[neri73-r]

Quote: ROSS 42

It was Brezhnev who brought mold to the party

Not quite so, Brezhnev, so to speak, continued Khrushchev’s line to denigrate Stalin and degrade the country's leadership.

[ccsr]

Quote: neri73-r

Not quite so, Brezhnev, so to speak, continued Khrushchev’s line to denigrate Stalin and degrade the country's leadership.

There is no need to imagine that time like that, especially since you do not know that it was under Brezhnev that criticism of Stalin was removed even from the textbooks of universities, and the attitude towards the leader became more balanced. Although the very concept of "personality cult" was not completely eradicated, it was presented in a completely different way than under Khrushchev.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: ccsr

under Brezhnev removed criticism of Stalin

Under Brezhnev, in the mid-70s, portraits of Stalin appeared in cars
on the windshield.

[neri73-r]

Quote: ccsr

Stalin’s criticism was even removed from university textbooks, and the attitude toward the leader became more balanced.

Weighted, the concept is relative. The attitude should be adequate and not based on lies. Under Brezhnev, they simply reduced the intensity, as those who remembered Stalin I.V. and his time was very much, the authorities understood that it was impossible to lie much. And Brezhnev understood that against the background of Stalin, to put it mildly, is rather weak. This is a disaster (an attempt to belittle the role of the predecessor) of all the followers of strong leaders, rulers, and leaders.

[ccsr]

Quote: neri73-r

Weighted, the concept is relative. The attitude should be adequate and not based on lies.

One of my colleagues had an elderly relative of his wife who had worked in the archives of the Central Committee since the pre-war years. So everything that we know about the activities of the CPSU-VKP (b) for the entire period of its existence is based on 30% of all materials available in the archives, and the rest was not available until the collapse of the USSR. What kind of "adequate" attitude can we talk about, even if our top party leaders had no idea what was stored in the archives, because they did not have time to do this. That is why Brezhnev very carefully approached the issue of rehabilitation - in our country, for example, the Cossacks still cannot forgive each other for the fact that some of their ancestors fought for the Reds, and others for the Whites.

[neri73-r]

Quote: ccsr

because they didn’t have time to do this.

It was time to engage in hunting and drunkenness, but to instruct specialists to clarify all issues - NO! Do not make me laugh! It's just ANYTHING of desire and it’s understandable why.

Quote: ccsr

here, for example, Cossacks still cannot forgive each other for the fact that some of their ancestors fought for the Reds, and others for the Whites.

This does not apply to the topic of Stalin at all.

even if our top party leaders had no idea what was stored in the archives

As they didn’t have it, didn’t they live and lead at that time ??? Ustinov, Brezhnev, etc. after IVS were born and began to work? Do not carry nonsense.

[ccsr]

Quote: neri73-r

It was time to engage in hunting and drunkenness, but to instruct specialists to clarify all issues - NO! Do not make me laugh! It's just ANYTHING of desire and it’s understandable why.

Now there are a lot of talk shows, as a result of which some family secrets are revealed, and completely innocent people suffer. Do you also want to dig in the "dirty linen" of the Communist Party? Why, what do you want to know and what will it give you?

Quote: neri73-r

This does not apply to the topic of Stalin at all.

This refers to the consequences of the class struggle, by the way, Stalin was its leading theoretician.

Quote: neri73-r

As they didn’t have it, didn’t they live and lead at that time ??? Ustinov, Brezhnev, etc. after IVS were born and began to work? Do not carry nonsense.

You are talking nonsense, because governing the country does not leave time to study party archives - the situation changed so quickly that modern surgical intervention was required, and this was the main task of the government of the country.

[neri73-r]

Quote: ccsr

You are talking nonsense, because governing the country does not leave time to study party archives - the situation changed so quickly that modern surgical intervention was required, and this was the main task of the government of the country.

You are an idealist! Party archives are studied by specialists, not leaders of the country.

Quote: ccsr

This refers to the consequences of the class struggle, by the way, Stalin was its leading theoretician.

Do not confuse him with Trotsky, Lenin and other figures of world internationalism. Stalin was just the theoretician of building socialism (communism) in a single country (the USSR) and dispersed the Comintern, put all (almost) of his figures (most of a certain nationality) inside the country and tried to clean it out. More or less, he came to power in 1927, and to the power that we see from our side now (in history) in 1937-8. He is the only one among the world rulers who made the Jews work for the country and its people, they still cannot forgive him for this, and also that he shod the world elite in 1943-45.

Quote: ccsr

Now there are a lot of talk shows, as a result of which some family secrets are revealed, and completely innocent people suffer. Do you also want to dig in the "dirty linen" of the Communist Party? Why, what do you want to know and what will it give you?

I do not study or study the world history of talk shows. Read primary sources and leading historians, such as, for example, Yuri Zhukov, so first read his work - "Another Stalin". We'll talk later.

[ccsr]

Quote: neri73-r

You are an idealist! Party archives are studied by specialists, not leaders of the country.

And let them study, but do not bother to teach the country's leaders on the basis of their study.

Quote: neri73-r

Do not confuse him with Trotsky, Lenin and other figures of world internationalism. Stalin was precisely the theoretician of the construction of socialism.

I studied science at the Higher School of Economics for five years, from Marxist philosophy to scientific communism, so I don’t need to tell you the basics - I know them no worse than you. But only in the practical construction of society, some of the theorists' postulates diverged from the realities of life, and our narrow-minded ideologists always demanded to eliminate them on the basis of what clearly did not fit the variety of life situations. This was the tragedy of the late USSR - I think so.

Quote: neri73-r

I do not study and did not study the world history of talk shows.

I did not offer this to you - I only advised you to understand the psychology of modern man, for whom all the teachings of Marxism are empty words, and in everyday life they are far from being guided by humanism.

Quote: neri73-r

Then we talk.

It is unlikely that I will be interested in retelling a short course in the history of the CPSU — can you still come down to the present land without ideological twists?

[Gardamir]

Brezhnev, so to speak, continued Khrushchev’s line of blackening

In 1966, Brezhnev was preparing a project for the rehabilitation of I.V. Stalin, but the figures of "culture" kicked up, and in fact many of them were awarded the Stalin Prize.

[AU Ivanov.]

Not Brezhnev, but Khrushchev laid the foundation for the decomposition of power. Communists were replaced by party functionaries.

[16329]

Blat, this is not speculation, it is protectionism, the provision of mutual services and the advancement of the interests of the parties on the basis of personal ties, it has always existed and will always exist.

[Morphius]

I do not agree, Khrushchev brought the mold, he did so that the party apex became not jurisdictional

[NordUral]

As for the peak of power under Brezhnev, this is a mistake, Sergey. Mountains of weapons and the beginning of the decay of the country. From top to bottom. 60-ki started, caressed by the Trotskyist Khrushchev, and then it went with increasing acceleration. Now their granddaughters are ruining the country.
The peak of power and faith in one’s country is the post-war Stalin years.

[ccsr]

Quote: NordUral

As for the peak of power under Brezhnev, this is a mistake, Sergey.

And 20% of the world’s GDP during Brezhnev’s time will you also call a delusion?

Quote: NordUral

The peak of power and faith in one’s country is the post-war Stalin years.

There could be no peak then - we were still in ruins, and the human losses were enormous. But no one will deny that our power was already being laid.

[NordUral]

This is not Brezhnev’s 20% and not Khrushchev’s - this is the result of the work of Stalin, his People’s Commissars and our fathers and grandfathers. With the followers of Stalin, he would have been much higher than this percentage and achievements. But Brezhnev quietly crawled down the hill and lowered our country today. He condoned such figures as Andropov.
The man was honest, but general, at least useless. What is doubly offensive to us, former citizens of the Union. If he rehabilitated Stalin, the Union would never have collapsed and today would be the first economy in the world. And the world would be different. But it did not happen.

[ccsr]

Quote: NordUral

The man was honest, but general, at least useless.

He also fought if you forgot. Yes, and he was normal General, and you will judge his activities when you live to his age. By the way, he asked the Politburo to dismiss him from the post of Secretary General, so that it might not be a brilliant person, but not the way you draw him.

Quote: NordUral

If he rehabilitated Stalin, the Union would never have collapsed and today would be the first economy in the world.

And he rehabilitated Stalin anyway, because during his reign Stalin did not say anything bad about Stalin even in closed party documents that were communicated to the members of the CPSU.
As for the first world economy, I doubt that even the United States has already lost China to the palm, i.e. quantity turned into quality according to historical materialism.

[NordUral]

You have inattentively read what I wrote. I did not attack him, as a man, and that he honestly fought already said. I spoke of the Secretary General, in which there was a complete decomposition of the ruling elite and the middle leaders of the CPSU.
And he did not rehabilitate Stalin, but only drowned out this issue, and half-hearted decisions are often much more harmful.
As for the first economy, it was a matter of time. At the Stalinist pace, this would have been decided by 80, 90 .. That they perfectly understood in the States and in England. Therefore, they accelerated the process of the collapse of the country through the decomposition of the top (though not everything is so primitive, everything was done filigree and multi-vector) and stifled by sanctions, an arms race. But the States overstrained, competing with us. So, if it weren’t for the tagged one, then maybe the Union would not have collapsed, but the United States. Of course it’s silly to say that now, history has put everything on the shelves. But nothing lasts forever under the moon. We still have a normal life under normal power, if we recall. And what in the States - wait and see.

[ccsr]

Quote: NordUral

As for the first economy, it was a matter of time.

Those. Do you consider the actions of the Chinese Communist Party erroneous? How is such confidence that the Chinese Communists would lose the CPSU in building the first economy of the world?
You would not deny at least the obvious - historical materialism, it seems you did not understand.

[NordUral]

And because if there had not been this perestroika in the USSR, there would have been perestroika in the States and they would not have cared for China. Indeed, it was the transfer of production from the States (mainly) to China that created the conditions for the rapid growth of China as a superpower.

[ccsr]

Quote: NordUral

And because if there had not been this perestroika in the USSR, there would have been perestroika in the States and they would not have cared for China. Indeed, it was the transfer of production from the States (mainly) to China that created the conditions for the rapid growth of China as a superpower.

Strange, you probably haven’t studied Marxism, and it says that capitalism is primarily interested in profit, and it is more where the costs of producers of surplus value are lower. So China was chosen not because the USSR collapsed, but because there was a cheap and obedient party labor force.

[NordUral]

He studied, this was the case. I’m not talking about profit and where it’s profitable, but about the fact that the States would no longer have time for China. Everything went to this, only ours, as it later turned out, were no longer ours in the Kremlin, the gut was thin and there were no more brains left. Yes, and Wishlist were completely different already.

[ccsr]

Quote: NordUral

Everything went to this, only ours, as it later turned out, were no longer ours in the Kremlin, the gut was thin and there were no more brains left.

Well, even if there were no brains in the Kremlin, but why the people voluntarily abandoned the conquests of their ancestors and handed over all their goods to the crooks. Or did the idea of ​​becoming instantly wealthy to a very common people endured the brains, and they happily shouted "Down with the KPSS"? You can't pretend that the people did not seem to have anything to do with it at that time - now they are just reaping the fruits of their foolishness, and deservedly. I hope the descendants will take into account our sad experience.

[NordUral]

And so, our brains were on one side after five years of massive treatment with lights and aifs with K. In addition, many then, like me in particular, were quite happy: no collapse of the Union was seen in the pictures of the future, just justice, i.e. a combination of planned economy and personal initiative, which attracted people like me. Nobody said for the time and time that we supposedly plunder and destroy everything, and you, suckers, if you do not fit into the new realities of unlimited freedom and grace, you can die for your pleasure.
They told us on the abortion how wonderful we will heal and our life will become more beautiful when the damned scoop is gone. And I was not a communist, and I didn’t bother about Stalin, and when Korotichi and K filled the whole country with the nightmares of those years, I completely hated that time. was not alone in this. Therefore, 91 was easily accepted, and even frightened by the GKChP, although they turned out to be insignificants, and this was perhaps the last chance to save the USSR.
And what happened next, as everyone knows, there is no need to say much.

[ccsr]

Quote: NordUral

So we had brains on one side after five years of massive treatment with lights and aifs with K.

I don’t know about you, but in my midst no one ever believed the calls of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, so not everyone believed in a bright capitalistic future. Yes, and now they do not believe. So, then, not everyone was affected by fooling, many knew very well what would follow.

[Roman070280]

The people are inherently stupid ..
In order not to explain for a long time, look at today's Ukraine ..
And this is there already now that people who are familiar with the phrase "sell the country for chewing gum and jeans" .. and it doesn't help them much ..
And in the 90s everyone was naive as children ..
And our descendants will not take anything into account. for thousands of years, as we ourselves have not taken into account anything .. Until now, a dense forest in people's heads .. censers are being kept on the gundyaevsiya ..

[ccsr]

Quote: Roman070280

The people are inherently stupid ..
In order not to explain for a long time, look at today's Ukraine ..

I agree with you. But the trouble is that not even ordinary people, but a huge number of educated people bought into the propaganda of the West and believed that under capitalism they would certainly better heal, due to the fact that they have more knowledge. They were the first to howl when wild capitalism began. It’s impossible for our people to forgive.

Quote: Roman070280

And our descendants will not take anything into account.

I am not such a pessimist, and I hope that the revival of human relations in our society will happen over time, if only because for almost thirty years we have not lost faith in the possibility of building a just state. And it pleases...

[naidas]

Quote: NordUral

caressed by the Trotskyist Khrushchev

I would separate Trotsky and Khrushchev.
Trotsky, as the head of the Red Army, was able to completely defeat all the internal armed resistance to the Communists. According to researcher Paul Johnson, it was Trotsky who, as the head of the Red Army, did so much more than anyone else to physically survive Bolshevism during the difficult years of the Civil War.
But Khrushchev on the contrary laid the collapse of the country.

[NordUral]

They can not be compared, but from this the Khrushchev will not cease to be a Trotskyist. I don’t go into details, it’s not interesting for me. But you won’t get away from this fact. The merits of the military Trotsky and Stalin did not deny. But all this was not only in the interests of Russia, far from not only.

[Vladtrigu]

Quote: naidas

it was Trotsky who, as head of the Red Army, did so much more than anyone else for the physical survival of Bolshevism during the difficult years of the Civil War.

Trotsky - the executioner of the Russian people, once again an ice ax in his head and all his followers !!

[naidas]

Quote: Vladtrigu

Trotsky - the executioner of the Russian people

Can you justify it?

[YOUR]

To defeat a country like Germany, for which all of Europe worked, is this not your peak of power?

[Oleg14774]

Quote: YOUR

To defeat a country like Germany, for which all of Europe worked, is this not your peak of power?

Let me add that not only Europe, but also the United States, which supplied the Reich through Swiss banks. As well as the supply of raw materials through European countries. Yes, and England zigil in the person of royal persons. So the war with England is sewn with white thread.

[Tavrik]

For reference: England is the only country that fought one on one with Germany for a year. From the fall of France to 22.06.41. All the rest fought in the coalition.
If the whole of Europe worked for Germany (and even not all), then the industry of America and Asia worked for the anti-Hitler coalition. This must also be taken into account, otherwise it turns out one-sided ...
If that - I'm not a Democrat, I am also for Stalin!

[NordUral]

Namesake! This is not entirely true. USA openly helped England. We would be so in 41, and not by the end of the war.

[Tavrik]

Namesake! They helped, but did not fight. Even though the American destroyer Ruben James was killed by a German torpedo before America entered the war. And they began to help us since 1941, showing amazing agility, which was in our and in their interests. But how notably they nominated me ... And what did I lie about?

[NordUral]

Evgeniy! Can you give examples of the "amazing quickness" of the Americans with the help of us in 41st?

[AU Ivanov.]

This is by inertia. So great was the Stalinist impulse for the development of the country,

[neri73-r]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

So great was the Stalinist impulse for the development of the country

In one phrase, the path of development of our country from 1953 to the present.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

Yes. I don’t know the truth or not. But I don’t remember where I read it. But they say that Brezhnev said at his sunset. That you’ll remember me with a kind word, I can add from myself. Thank you Leonid Ilyich for my happy childhood! Earth rest in peace!

[neri73-r]

Quote: Observer2014

But they say that Brezhnev said at his sunset. That wake me supposedly remember a good word.

They will remember not Brezhnev, but this person -

In 1939, on the very eve of the war with Finland, JV Stalin made such predictions: “Many of the affairs of our party and people will be perverted and spat on, above all abroad, and in our country too.
Zionism, striving for world domination, will cruelly avenge us for our successes and achievements.
He still sees Russia as a barbaric country, as a raw materials appendage. And my name will also be defamed, slandered.
Many crimes will be attributed to me.
World Zionism will by all means strive to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The edge of the struggle will be directed, first of all, at breaking this friendship, at breaking off the outskirts from Russia.
Here, I must admit, we have not done everything yet. There is still a big field of work.
Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise.
Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.
In general, in the future development will go more difficult and even frantic ways, turns will be extremely steep. It goes to the fact that the East is especially excited. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.
And yet, no matter how events develop, but time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the affairs and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come.
They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due. They will build their future on our past. ”

[naidas]

I can’t remember Stalin because of the absence, and Brezhnev - the golden age of the USSR.

[neri73-r]

Sorry, I hurried with a minus. Quickly read.

[NordUral]

Everyone remembers what he wants to remember.

[Observer2014]

Quote: NordUral

Everyone remembers what he wants to remember.

And I agree with neri73-r As with your comment

[NordUral]

Suspecting me, Sergey, that we all remember different things and evaluate our past in different ways. I agree with neri73-r and I regret that what he quoted in the quote came true. Although I would be glad to make a mistake, the unity of the people is a vital necessity for the survival of the country.

[Morphius]

Tell what large-scale construction projects were under Brezhnev ?? Brezhnev walked on the backlog of Stalin .. but according to one version, he just participated in the execution of Beria

[neri73-r]

So what is the merit of the Brezhnev era? This is just an implementation of the Stalinist jerk!

[naidas]

BAM, Unified satellite communications system, gas pipelines (Urengoy-Pomara-Uzhgorod), subways, and housing according to the Zlobin method were built as never before and much more.

[Etienne]

Sergej1972
Stalin is a giant. Khrushchev, Brezhnev and everyone who comes after are minnows. All the dirt, all the accusations against Stalin flew from kovs who were nothing of themselves, shamefully ending their lives. And, as W. Churchill said about Stalin - "... such History and Peoples do not forget!"

[Etienne]

Etienne (Etienne) 1 Today, 18:15



Sergej1972
Stalin is a giant. Khrushchev, Brezhnev and everyone who comes after are minnows. All the dirt, all the accusations against Stalin flew from kovs who were nothing of themselves, shamefully ending their lives. And, as W. Churchill said about Stalin - "... such History and Peoples do not forget!"

[VRF]

Quote: Alex2048

Although it is so far from history.

Excuse me, what do you mean?

[depressant]

Stalin’s level of approval broke the record because Joseph Vissarionovich built not socialism and communism, but within the framework allotted to him by history, and based on its realities, he built a great state capable of opposing any external enemy and giving hope for a better future not only to its people, but and all of humanity.

[vvnab]

Quote: depressant

Stalin's level of approval broke the record because Joseph Vissarionovich did not build socialism and communism, but ...

It’s strange. And he himself said a completely different ... Lied or something !? )))

[Voyager]

Politicians often say what needs to be said, and not what they really are.

[Mestny]

He said that he was building communism, but in fact he was building an empire.
For many, this is like a blow to the head with a log of wood.

[NordUral]

Are you about yourself, Sergey? If not, please explain to whom exactly the log on the head?

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: NordUral

Are you about yourself, Sergey? If not, please explain to whom exactly the log on the head?

Vlasovites are shocked by such a level of approval by the people of the activities of Joseph Vissarionovich. They thought that they had already created a brainless society of consumption, destroyed memory and class consciousness, but here you (them) are logs .. Now the campaign will deal with the destruction of books at the stake and the demolition of monuments .. DO NOT SUCCESS!

[Tank hard]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Vlasovites are shocked by such a level of approval by the people of the activities of Joseph Vissarionovich. They thought that they had already created a brainless society of consumption, destroyed memory and class consciousness, and then here you (them) were logs ... Now they’ll be engaged in the destruction of books at the stake and the demolition of monuments .. DON'T SUCCESS

Grandfather, judging by the students of the school where my son is studying, young people are not interested in them (Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, etc.). And this is the main indicator of the attitude of the future population to these people. You should cry, and you have fun.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Vlasovites are shocked by such a level of approval by the people of the activities of Joseph Vissarionovich. They thought that they had already created a brainless society of consumption, destroyed memory and class consciousness, and then here you (them) were logs ... Now they’ll be engaged in the destruction of books at the stake and the demolition of monuments .. DON'T SUCCESS

Grandfather, judging by the students of the school where my son is studying, young people are not interested in them (Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, etc.). And this is the main indicator of the attitude of the future population to these people. You should cry, and you have fun.

There is no hope for school in this regard now, now there are other tasks and other books, we need to teach our children and grandchildren and to give them the necessary literature and films until all this is forbidden and burned. And yes, it is fun and joyful to me that the bourgeois shit democrats broke off and our people did not turn into a herding and chewing herd.

[vvnab]

I do not understand why invent and ascribe to historical figures motives and goals that run counter to documentary evidence? Okay, there, Alexander the Great, some one, or Ivan the Terrible, did not keep diaries, and if they did, then they did not reach us, but Stalin !? He's practically our contemporary! There is a huge number of scientific papers, articles, speeches at congresses for his personal authorship. And they all directly contradict the ideas of building some kind of "red empire". On the contrary! He constantly speaks and writes that he is a consistent Marxist and a faithful student of Lenin.
And you, on the one hand, admire this man, and on the other, claim that he was a liar and a hypocrite !? Here from similar schizophrenia and all the problems in modern Russian society ... ((

[NordUral]

Stalin and Lenin are bred on opposite sides of the barricade by those who destroyed and destroyed the Union, and now their loyal successors in power and in betrayers of power.
Both Lenin and Stalin built a just Russia, albeit with errors, but they did.
And these-destroy and steal.

[antique]

Quote: Mestny

He said that he was building communism, but in fact he was building an empire.
For many, this is like a blow to the head with a log of wood.

Not true. Stalin about communism.
“If we give a brief anatomy of a communist society, then it will be such a society:

a) where there will be no private ownership of implements and means of production, but public, collective property;

b) where there will be no classes and state power, but there will be workers in industry and agriculture, economically governed, as a free association of workers;

c) where the national economy, organized according to the plan, will be based on high technology both in industry and in agriculture;

d) where there will be no opposition between town and country, between industry and agriculture;

e) where the products will be distributed to the principle of the old French Communists: “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”;

e) where science and art will use the conditions favorable enough to achieve full prosperity;

g) where a person who is free from worries about a piece of bread and the need to fit in with the "strengths of the world" will become truly free.

Etc".

I. Stalin, “Conversation with the First American Workers' Delegation” vol. 10 p. 1

[Vlad 63]

In my opinion, any strong statesman, being at the helm of our country, no matter what he builds and no matter what ideas he declares, will in any case build an empire as an application to the idea, or vice versa. Whether it's the Russian Empire or the Soviet Empire. Perhaps this is the fate of Russia to be an empire. On the other hand, if at the helm of the country there are persons by "preliminary conspiracy")), greedy self-seekers who usurped power for personal gain and the benefit of their close circle, temporary workers who stuck to the body of the country like parasites, then from Russia it turns out either a rash or a scoop of the late period or do not yet understand what a little animal.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Mestny

He said that he was building communism, but in fact he was building an empire.
For many, this is like a blow to the head with a log of wood.

At the school where my child is studying, most do not know who this is, as well as Ulyanov - Lenin, however ... Among whom these "Levada - centers" are conducting a survey, I do not understand, among the users of the VO resource, or what? Young people are not interested in this. And if so, then all this hype will settle down, and then it will die quietly ... And some information will remain in the history books, maybe...

[naidas]

Quote: Mestny

builds communism, but actually built an empire

Depending on what is meant by this, the Empire is a state that has a large multinational entity, managed from one center. So no system will be an empire.

[The Siberian barber]

Probably confused with Khrushchev, who promised to build communism, by the 80s (?)

[Yu-81]

People have a parallel universe. Stubborn Stalin is good because he is a red emperor, neither a socialist nor a communist. Such nonsense is pushed by characters such as Starikov, who are trying to connect the history of tsarist Russia with its great communist period and, as a result, expose Putin as almost the second Stalin and imagine everything as if everything has stopped now, you just have to wait and hope for a cunning plan .

[NordUral]

These have a cunning plan - to take, but lime all of us. To zero and below the baseboard.

[Matroskin]

Comrade, do not bother people with writing icons. In schizophrenics, the brain is twice as large and holds twice as much. You can't handle it

Quote: NordUral

This is China, where the oligarchs and communists, or maybe just the communist oligarchs are building the future of their country

[AU Ivanov.]

At the end of his reign, Stalin decided to remove the Communist Party from power, leave it purely ideological functions and resign as Secretary General. The decision is correct: the Soviet power is not the power of the Communists, it is the power of the Soviets. The key issues should not be taken by the Plenum of the Central Committee, but by the Presidium of the Supreme Council and the Council of Ministers. That is, elected representatives and professionals, not ideologists.

[vvnab]

remove the Communist Party from power, leave it with purely ideological functions

Well, not quite so ... The Party should have remained the function of training leading cadres, and cadres, as you know, decide everything!

[naidas]

Quote from vvnab

It’s strange. And he himself said a completely different ... Lied or something !?

Socialism and communism, the ultimate goal, did not reject Stalin's multi-structure and the development of multi-structure in the country. ("XIV Congress of the CPSU (b)" v. 7, p. 303.)

[Yuyuka]

about

The number of people who consider unjustified "the human sacrifice that the Soviet people suffered in the Stalin era" has decreased from 60 to 45%.

as it was said in Soviet times - the sacrifices were not in vain ... why is Stalin "forgiven", so to speak, now all those sacrifices? Because despite all the mistakes, miscalculations and losses, there was a vector - improving the life of the people and caring for their children and the elderly, and most importantly - there was no fear of the future, at least in the 60s and 70s. What do we have now? Who will count those losses of the 90s ?? The country has lost millions, if we take into account the indirect losses - from the young, killed in the "dashing" shootings to those who left forever ... Moreover, most of the smart, educated people are leaving, and mostly illiterate "guest workers" come to us. Today the most popular professions - cooks and cleaners - have been voiced ... Trade workers are also included in the top 10. They say it has to do with automation and artificial intelligence technologies! But, as one character said - "I am tormented by vague doubts ..." that our automation and "intelligence" are engaged in everything else in the country ...

[Morphius]

You are confusing something, read at least Stalin himself ..

[Nord2015]

Quote: Alex2048

.. For most people in Russia, Stalin is associated with the power of their homeland. Yes in time

Stalin is associated with social justice. Therefore, the call to remove the little Stalin from itself is rather perceived by the call to put up with the rampant officials and oligarchs.

[teron]

Totally agree.

[wt100]

And what I like about him, with all the controversial methods in the most difficult time for the country, is the fact that after himself (for himself, his family) he left only two uniforms, three pipes and, roughly speaking, a truncated, unlike the current generation of leaders ... I understand that, all thoughts and actions are only for the country, for the party!

[RUSS]

Quote: Alex2048

Although it is so far from history.

Absolutely correctly noticed, as young people know Stalin from myths and demotivators

[rocket757]

Many HISTORICAL FIGURES are controversial!
Without knowledge of history, in-depth analysis DO NOT UNDERSTAND THEM!
Let's evaluate everyone according to THEIR MATTERS!
PEOPLE give their assessment !!! In truth or emotionally, subjectively, an assessment for a figure of such a scale as I.V. STALIN, it becomes EVERYTHING EVERYTHING! By the way, the same assessments of the current government are also growing !!! Only the sign is not PLUS!

[aybolyt678]

Quote: rocket757

By the way, the same assessments of the current government are also growing !!!

how many years have we celebrated Victory, and yet none of the flower managers have laid down the Generalissimo!

[rocket757]

Small people, small little souls, are simply afraid even of the shadow of the Great Leader.

[bk316]

Well, everything is simple ... For most people in the Russian Federation, Stalin is associated with the power of their homeland.

Yes, not so simple. This factor has always been, but recently, the number of those who believe that under Stalin the society was JUST has grown. Due to this, support has grown. The Liberasts did everything so that the people would consider that it was not justice under Stalin — it didn’t work.

[sniperino]

Quote: Alex2048

Well, everything is simple

Sometimes simplicity is worse than theft.

Quote: Alex2048

it so happened that Stalin was exposed as the leader who instantly and simply resolved all issues

Confuse something. How did it happen? Who is exposed? Stalin did not solve all the problems, but he did solve issues of such a scale that many leaders before and after him were not what they could solve, but they could not set themselves. It is a fact. And the rest is fussy fidgeties aimed at belittling the significance of Stalin in our history by hiding him for the anonymous creation of the masses.

[Morphius]

he was a great manager and knew where and whom to put

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Morphius

he was a great manager and knew where and whom to put

I did not know where to get and whom to put, the staff deficit was worse than now. But he thanked or punished everyone for his deeds!

[A1845]

For all its ambiguity, Stalin did not trade in his homeland, and did not allow anyone. Even selling oil was considered unacceptable. And buying a 100-meter yacht with stolen money would never have been a dream in general.

[Sergey49]

I think you're wrong. This is not about foreign, but about domestic politics. The society has already matured and overripe the request for justice. In endorsing Stalin, people imagine how the entire powerful gang of the watering can of modern Russia goes on a stage or becomes against the wall.
And on the world stage, Russia now means a lot.

[Morphius]

For example, what does Russia mean right now? as they imposed sanctions, they are introducing them right now, at the helm of the capitalists, the mind of the Motherland is zilch, what Putin does is beneficial for the capitalists, in the USSR this would not be ..

[edge]

Quote: Alex2048

Well, everything is simple ... For most people in the Russian Federation, Stalin is associated with the power of their homeland.

We add here the elimination of the Jewish Central Committee sent from Chicago ....

[volot-voin]

Quote: Alex2048

Well, everything is simple ... For most people in the Russian Federation, Stalin is associated with the power of their homeland. Yes, during the time of Stalin, the USSR meant a lot on the world stage.

There is also internal social security, prospects, industrialization, socialism .... there were certainly minuses and excesses, but this pales in comparison with the policy of the "elite", theft, national betrayal of 1987 (perestroika) -2019. There were of course Abkhazia. Ossetia, Crimea (which you can be proud of), but how much about ..... whether ...

[Lantau]

As Konstantin Rokossovsky, Comrade Stalin, said to me a saint !!!

[Uncle lee]

The rash of him, Rokossovsky, made Stalin bewitched, to which he replied to him like this: Comrade Stalin is holy to me !!!

[Morphius]

Khrushchev is a pest and a funeral worker of all achievements ..

[KOCMOC]

Quote: Lantau

As Konstantin Rokossovsky, Comrade Stalin, said to me a saint !!!

The wind of history is gradually sweeping away trash named after Stalin.

[NordUral]

The wind needs help! And that is our duty.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: KOCMOC

The wind of history is gradually sweeping away trash named after Stalin.

On March 9, I was in Moscow on Red Square and took a photo of Stalin’s grave in red carnations, which were purchased with folk money in the amount of about 15 thousand pieces. I don’t think that the people will throw themselves on Yeltsin’s flowers.

[Yu-81]

The bad news is that even on their birthday and day of death, Stalin’s grave is only allowed if a group of people gathers. When I arrived there last year on 5 on March, they did not let us in until 10 people gathered. True gathered enough, but quickly. And the monument is opal in flowers.

[Morphius]

May it be so!

[cesar65]

I will add
I.V. Stalin:
“I know that after death a lot of garbage will be put on my grave. But the wind of History will mercilessly dispel it. ”

[Tank jacket]

Little Stalin inside me is happy ... In fact, 90% approve, understate understated ..

[Uncle lee]

Stalin's approval level broke the historical record

And it will continue to grow!

[Tank jacket]

Vladimir This is an alarming signal for the liberal Chubais team in the economic bloc of the government.

[Uncle lee]

For them, this signal is not heard.
https://svpressa.ru/society/article/230339/
And then they’ll hear!
Ruslan

[Tank jacket]

I believe that PR will be canceled after stripping liberoids.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Tank jacket

I believe that PR will be canceled after stripping liberoids.

Not canceled, too many "managers" have done a lot for 30 years. Until the very system in which we live is changed, together with the course aimed at industrializing production similar to Stalin's, and for this the government will be forced to nationalize the resource base, transport, energy systems, etc., otherwise the economy will again be as "efficient" as it is now ...
And as long as the collapse of the remnants of the Soviet industry continues and the expectations of the "saints" for the current government, foreign investors ... The pension will only be in dreams, well, not counting the security officials, of course, and bureaucrats.

[Tank jacket]

"The results of privatization are also subject to cancellation, the people who carried out it are subject to lustration with a ban on civil service ..." (c) Not literally M. Khazin.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Tank jacket

"The results of privatization are also subject to cancellation, the people who carried out it are subject to lustration with a ban on civil service ..." (c) Not literally M. Khazin.

This is not possible with the current system! Listen to what our "Guarantor" has read about this more than once. And Khazin is still that storyteller and "weather vane". Listen to him .... well, then you yourself know.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Sovetskiy

And how long will the collapse of the remnants of Soviet industry continue and the expectations of "saints" for the current government, foreign investors ..

Today I found out: it turns out to be in China, long before 2014, large investments in Russian processing industries were prohibited by law !!! And we hung pipes on our ears, here come the investment ......

[Sotskiy]

Quote: aybolyt678

And we hung pipes on our ears, here come the investment ......

And what other options do they have if entire branches of the former Soviet industry have been wiped out by "effective management"? Everything is going in strict accordance with Chubais's "nails".

[antique]

Quote: Tank jacket

I believe that PR will be canceled after stripping liberoids.

After all, the main liberoid in the Kremlin. You have to wait a long time. He looked like he was going to sit there for life.

[Morphius]

yes, they don’t give a damn, we can at least think everything we want, but as we raised taxes, we increased us, turned us into slaves, and we can believe in Stalin))) at least they write for years)))

[prapor55]

Tank jacket] Vladimir This is an alarming signal for the liberal Chubais team in the economic bloc of the government. Yes, Vladimir himself should think, and not build Yeltsin centers.

[knn54]

Ruslan, Chubais is going to retire, maybe after the results of the survey ...

[Tank jacket]

Nicholas, for me, this is information that needs to be checked ...

[aybolyt678]

Quote: knn54

Chubais is going to retire, maybe after the results of the survey ...

The opinion of society does not even have a meager legal significance.

[Andrey VOV]

For all my negative attitude towards Chubais, but to be, let's say, bureaucratic, Chubais has nothing to do with the de jure government now, there are enough "artists" there without him

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Andrey VOV

bureaucratic, Chubais has nothing to do with the de jure government, there and without him there are enough "artists"

there de jure does not work. On everything on a personal relationship, like vampires for whom the people are the blood supplier

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Tank jacket

Vladimir This is an alarming signal for the liberal Chubais team in the economic bloc of the government.

They will change some traitors to others. Secret power has not gone anywhere and will not go away. Look what General Petrov said about the options for power.
There, all alternatives to governing the country are laid out on the shelves.

[RUSS]

Quote: Tank jacket

Vladimir This is an alarming signal for the liberal Chubais team in the economic bloc of the government.

There are no Chubais people in the government, as well as Chubais himself in it.

[Tank jacket]

You are poorly prepared ... Either disguise these people, but I can see everything. Highlight you? So that was more visible?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Tank jacket

Vladimir This is an alarming signal for the liberal Chubais team in the economic bloc of the government.

For the government and the LADY, as the chairman of the EDRO party, alarming times are coming. On April 8, elections to municipalities were held in 2018 regions of the country, as a result of which, the people gave a ride to all representatives of United Russia without exception in all municipalities where elections were held. If we recall the September 4 elections, then in 18 regions out of 2019 representatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party and the SR won, which, given the existing administrative resource in the hands of Edr, can be considered a failure. This is only where they could not objectively falsify the results, and if we assume that somewhere they still managed to do it, then we can safely add the same amount to the four "rebels". Let's see how in the upcoming elections in September XNUMX, edrosam will hiccup their reforms with pensions, taxes and fines. Be that as it may, men, but you have to go to the polls ...

[Tank jacket]

Dmitry, I agree with you on the regions that the election of deputies is very revealing. You have to go to the polls.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Tank jacket

You have to go to the polls.

And then the intersection will be paid!

[Morphius]

in the regions will give the type of will of the people, rejoice, but they will not let them go to the top ..

[Star Soul]

This is not a signal to them. They spit on such signals. These creatures are unsinkable.

[AUL]

Quote from Uncle Lee

As it turned out, the percentage of people who approve of the Soviet leader broke a historical record for all years of research on this subject,

So there is nothing to compare!

[Mestny]

Especially when you never saw him personally and did not live during his reign.
And the younger the comparator - the more violent and categorical the comparison.
I’m not talking about you personally.

[NordUral]

Have you lived, Sergei? I personally captured only a little, I remember from childhood the days of his death and funeral. And the tears of people in the streets. It was in the Ural city in the very north of the country, where most of its inhabitants "suffered" from a bloodthirsty tyrant. For whom from the top, besides Stalin, did we shed at least one tear?

[Mestny]

I did not live, right.
Well, I don’t tell everyone how good and great it was then (because now it’s bad). Moreover, I managed to understand and appreciate this "bad now" (that's why it's not bad for me now).
And I urge others to be wary of information sources. Especially to information expressed in a simplified rally form.

[NordUral]

You feel good, I won’t tell you what is bad. Someone else is even very good. But for the majority, it’s not very or even very bad. But this is visible to those who do not close their eyes with a palm.
And most importantly, what is bad with the prospects for the future of the country and the people as a whole.

And then, where did you get that those who, for Stalin, tell everyone and everywhere about the sweet life under Stalin? I personally didn’t say anything like this, for example, someone Govorukhin, who, citing the example of a wonderful and well-fed life in Tsarist Russia, describes the counters and slides of the Eliseevsky deli in St. Petersburg. Do not distort, Sergey!

[Mestny]

Well, see? Personally, you did not speak. And I got the impression - that most say about it.
And you, accordingly, got the impression that "the majority is bad."
Neither you nor I have any reason to draw such categorical conclusions from such meager information.
Only in my case we are talking about history, whatever one may say. On the reliability of sources, let’s say so.
And in yours - about the direct perception of reality.
What you agree is much more important, and more sensitive for general ideas about the real life of our listeners and interlocutors.

[NordUral]

The story is very different and not always true, but the reality outside the window, in the city and the country, is an objective thing. But impressions are a very shaky category.

[Mestny]

In the case of reality, there are effective ways to test it, let’s say so.
History is much more complicated in this sense.
That is why the debate about current events is always much more important than any historical dispute.

[Roman070280]

the impression was made that "the majority is bad."

Well, if you can still argue about Stalin .. at least for the sake of formality .. Well, why talk about now ... The fact that the country and the people are robbed is by no means an impression !!

[free]

Quote: Mestny

Well, see? Personally, you did not speak. And I got the impression - that most say about it.
And you, accordingly, got the impression that "the majority is bad."
Neither you nor I have any reason to draw such categorical conclusions from such meager information.
Only in my case we are talking about history, whatever one may say. On the reliability of sources, let’s say so.
And in yours - about the direct perception of reality.
What you agree is much more important, and more sensitive for general ideas about the real life of our listeners and interlocutors.

Most talk about justice. Not about a well-fed and comfortable life, but about justice. It is justice that makes life full of meaning and gives reasonable hope for the future.

[Sewer krainiy]

[quote = NordUral] Have you lived, Sergei? I personally captured only a little, I remember from childhood the days of his death and funeral. And the tears of people in the streets. It was in the Ural city in the very north of the country, where most of its inhabitants "suffered" from a bloodthirsty tyrant. For whom from the top, except Stalin, did we shed at least one tear? [/ Quote]

He also managed to capture Stalin's times a little in a small village in Western Belarus. I remember how adults gathered before the holidays on the mound, read the newspaper before the holidays, and discussed how much cheaper the goods would be. A crying column of villagers with a flag, mourning bandages on their hands ...

[quote = Mestny] I did not live, right.
Well, I don’t tell everyone how good and great it was then (because now it’s bad). Moreover, I managed to understand and appreciate this "bad now" (that's why it's not bad for me now).
And I urge others to be wary of information sources. Especially to the information expressed in a simplified rally form. [/ Quote]

And then it was not good and excellent in the post-war period: hunger and cold. An hour with kvass, sometimes with water. Veins at work tore from small to large. I was already in 1-2 grades with a horse helping older sows to farm potatoes. But the progress was visible, with each passing year getting better and better. Not everything is so simple.

[AUL]

I lived. And I remember newspapers with mourning photographs. And I remember how my mother cried. True, I did not see Stalin personally.

[AUL]

Quote: Mestny

Especially when you never saw him personally and did not live during his reign.

I lived. And I remember newspapers with mourning photographs. And I remember how my mother cried. True, I did not see Stalin personally.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Tank jacket

In fact, 90% approve, understate understate ..

So a survey of the blevar center was conducted, and not by VTsIOM.
Ruslan

[Tank jacket]

Paul, , the fact of the matter is that when Levada was counted, they were horrified and intentionally reduced the percentage of approval ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Tank jacket

they were horrified

Nothing, let them get used to it.

[rocket757]

As in the song - "Why, why, everyone doesn’t l * love me here ???"
Good morning Paul
If it is of course good ???
Notre Dame Cathedral was burnt, but I never looked at it !!!!! It's a shame.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: rocket757

Notre Dame Cathedral burned out

Last night I was shocked by the live broadcast on Euronews.
As for the news: I personally think that the growth in the approval rating of JV Stalin is logical.
Vitya

[rocket757]

Plowed yesterday, naturally, and the weather is with us for sleep, the very thing is rain-rain! Passed out early! Now I won’t look anymore, it’s a pity for such a MIRACLE!
Stalin is the simple man’s hope for order and a normal life, despite the fact that during his leadership the country experienced terrible events!
Country, people won! They rose from the ashes and the whole world stated clearly and specifically that WE ARE GREAT !!!
This is no longer nostalgia, whatever it is, it is a desire, a need with which the upper will have to be reckoned with!

[bouncyhunter]

Well said, buddy!

[Reptiloid]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Well said, buddy!

I am joining! Great comments, there is something to write, but ..... until the evening.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Reptiloid

Great comments, there is something to write

Judging by the number of comments and their content, the topic is lively for both supporters and opponents of I.V. Stalin.

[Gardamir]

.In fact

As a supporter of the country's main liberal, can he be simultaneously a supporter of the statesman I.V. Stalin?

[Tank jacket]

Incorrect formulation of the question ... The next question ...

[rocket757]

Welcome
Assumption - the majority wants an elementary order and, of course, predictability in their life!
Even those who consider themselves to be TRUE liberals claim that what they practice NOW, called liberalism and democracy, is not from the word AT ALL !!! By the way, they also do not see the prospects of changing the situation for the better! This is the power of the super minority, the "golden handful" over all the others ....... some manage to equate with the other extreme.
So mankind shies away from here, here. We are very far from the "golden" mean!

[Tank jacket]

Greetings Victor I consider it important to increase the level of self-education in the field of management. Each of us needs to learn management, otherwise they will manage us. Rescue of the drowning ...

[Mikhail3]

Stalin cannot be small. Wrong figure ...

[Tank jacket]

Michael, I still need to work on myself, I grow it as I can. To do this, I need to improve my morality. And it’s hard given, sometimes I break down ...

[Mikhail3]

Here we go with us in normal size, we’ll cry ...

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Tank jacket

Little Stalin inside me is happy ... In fact, 90% approve, understate understated ..

Strange you have Stalin inside, with the face of Putin. And who constantly changes faces ????

[Tank jacket]

A strange conclusion ... do you see what's inside me? Let me try then to guess who you have with whose face? I assume that you have inside Chubais with the head of Trotsky ...

[DEDPIHTO]

Why see when it is enough to read your posts in different topics. Everywhere many-sided as the savior of the Fatherland is advertised ... And this is the old trick of the Zaputinists, when they attribute their trash like horses and ginger to the opponent

[Tank jacket]

And then ...? develop a thought ...

[rocket757]

Everything is changing! And everything happens for the first time.
Really appreciate what sho around us !!!! You see, there WILL NOT be a return to the old one, at least in the form in which it was.
Means it is necessary to create a NEW, WHICH SHOULD BE GATHERED ALL THE BEST of that sho was earlier, is NOW !!!
The overwhelming majority can vote for Schaub abundance as it is now, and we want social justice as then!
In modern times, with such power, this is the same as cramming the uncanny !!!
It turns out that someone should moderate the Wishlist or the current government will have to make room !!!

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Tank jacket

And then ...? develop a thought ...

Get ,, next ,, - another privatization has begun !!! As they say, you can’t destroy, lead? This time they are trying to grab the image of I.V., beloved by the people. Stalin, pulling his mask on the many-sided, who completely bargained for the support of the people, and you are kind enough to participate in this Sabbath as a small ,, advertising agent ,, And this is expressed in ostentatious landings

the former

relatively small official thieves. Noteworthy is the statement of Deputy Fedorov, saying that we (that is, their funny GCD) decided to start cleaning from the bottom, specially giving time to the large oligarchs and large officials, embezzlers, ATTENTION !!! .. to cleanse the country from major corrupt officials. Class, with the dough on the way out)) mats are not enough from such fraud

[Partyzan]

A survey conducted by the Levada Center showed that in 2019, in total, 77% of Russian citizens treat Joseph Vissarionovich with approval or indifference. At the same time, 51% of those polled said that they view Stalin with "admiration, respect and sympathy." It is noted that the number of people who treated the Soviet leader with respect has grown by 12%. The number of people who were neutral or negative to Stalin has significantly decreased since the 2015 year.

With him, the nano-Chubais center, in its entirety, would use macro-cedars

[Mestny]

Really?
That's exactly what would have happened with him - Internet talkers, horses and revolutionaries would have done just that. Sawing cedars.
For many lovers of freedom, this would be the most unexpected surprise in their such an active, but well-fed and carefree (as it turns out later) life.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Mestny

That's exactly what would have happened with him - Internet talkers, horses and revolutionaries would have done just that. Sawing cedars.
For many lovers of freedom, this would be the most unexpected surprise in their such an active, but well-fed and carefree (as it turns out later) life.

You are absolutely right in this - the EBNcenters would not have stood, and the missiles would not have fallen, and the main resources would not have belonged to a potential enemy. And the horses would just swing, and where do you live? I am interested in finding out where this is a well-fed and carefree life.

[Mestny]

We may have different ideas about a well-fed and carefree life.
Some people are fine, everything is in the piggy bank, but for others, whatever they give is not enough, everything is unfair.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Mestny

Some people are fine, everything is in the piggy bank, but for others, whatever they give is not enough, everything is unfair.

You Deripaska or people mean?

[Mestny]

And all the citizens of one country.
It’s just for a rally it’s convenient to shout that the people are separate - the power is separate. And then the self-determination of peoples will begin, which also turns out to be "by themselves, with
ancient original culture, "enough to feed Moscow."
All this is so predictable that it becomes boring, honestly.

And it all starts with "the power is separate - the people are separate." As if from different planets.
Some are "oppressors" and others "in spite of." Bridges, factories, missiles - everything is strictly contrary to the corrupt government.
Enough, I don’t have to tell this. I know all this, all these tricks.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Mestny

Enough, I don’t have to tell this. I know all this, all these tricks.

So you are drowning for this, yet tell us what a good servant of the people was Chubais, I don’t even talk about Yeltsin, tell me who is the shareholder of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and where the dividends are sent, to remind of anything else?

[KOCMOC]

Quote: Partyzan

With him, the nano-Chubais center, in its entirety, would use macro-cedars

Quote: Mestny

That's exactly what would have happened with him - Internet talkers, horses and revolutionaries would have done just that. Sawing cedars.

All loafers and hack-workers, and liberal and communist religions, even unbelievers and just standing next to them, to rebuild the country, will rake away everything, they will need it, there will be a lot of work, there will be enough logging sites for everyone.

[Roman070280]

"For many freedom lovers, this would be the most unexpected surprise."
This cannot be a surprise, no need to compose ..
For us now ANY hard work will be a surprise ..
And in those days, people during the war transported factories beyond the Urals, and there at -40 laid wiring and inserted windows in Catherine’s buildings to design planes in the morning .. And that was NORMAL !! And you and I would now except cry with tears that your fingers do not bend, not to mention the glazing bead ..
And you can get used to everything .. someone and the beach all his life becomes a burden over time ..

[NordUral]

I agree, but under Stalin or a similar leader of the country, we never heard of the redhead and his accomplices. They would quietly work in the timber industry enterprises of a great country.

[Partyzan]

Quote: NordUral

They would quietly work in the timber industry enterprises of a great country.

Why only in timber industry enterprises? Canals still need to be built

[NordUral]

The list of hand applications is large, cited a common example, Partyzan.

[evgic]

There was a cult, but there was a personality.

[Gardamir]

There was a cult, but there was a personality.

Stalin was responsible for everything, including the fact that "the cat abandoned the kittens." Now it is also a cult, but responsibility is minimal.

[Mestny]

You create a cult yourself. To anyone. In this case, a long-dead leader from a different historical era.
Moreover, the most enchanting is that none of you have personally seen the object of this cult.
Although, why am I telling you? But without me you know all this perfectly.

[Gardamir]

You create a cult yourself

And why are you creating a cult for the present? Let's talk about the object. which everyone saw. One of the reasons for the love of a leader of a different historical era is that no one can openly express hatred of a leader of the current era.

[Mestny]

But how do I create, even if I wanted to?
I’m not the leader of the country of councils - I can’t pick up the phone and call the editorial office of VO with an indication of whom to deploy.
Now the information is open to everyone, pipe what you want.
But just the same, they are trying to revive the cult of Comrade Stalin by many efforts.
But this is not bad. Comrade Stalin really was an outstanding leader, there are few such people in history.
The bad thing is that the cult is being created about the COMBINED Comrade Stalin, who led the invented country of the USSR.

[Roman070280]

I’m not the leader of the country of councils - I can’t pick up the phone

Are we all the other leaders ?? Are we all picking up the phone ??
What a juggle ..

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Mestny

who led the invented country of the USSR.

And who invented this country? So 42 years I was invented and at once became real in 91 years ?!

[AUL]

Quote: Mestny

The bad thing is that the cult is being created about the COMBINED Comrade Stalin, who led the invented country of the USSR.

And the achievements of the country under his leadership - are also invented?

[BecmepH]

Quote: Mestny

You create a cult yourself. To anyone. In this case, a long-dead leader from a different historical era.
Moreover, the most enchanting is that none of you have personally seen the object of this cult.
Although, why am I telling you? But without me you know all this perfectly.

Judging by your statement, you, personally, have a negative attitude towards

a long-dead leader from a different historical era.

But how so? After all, you personally

the object of this cult was not personally seen.

Although, why am I

[Mestny]

Sorry, you didn’t understand.
I do not have a negative attitude towards the leader.
I have a negative attitude towards the leader invented by the propagandists.
The difference, true, is clear to you.

[Roman070280]

In an eccentric man ..))
It’s not only you who have a negative opinion of a fictitious one .. Nobody was going to praise the fictitious one at all .. Putin came up with the idea that Russia is making a breakthrough .. since no matter how much this propaganda is being poured into their ears, nobody is positive about it anyway ..
And here we are talking about something that is supported by real merits and achievements .. and this causes positive emotions ..

[KOCMOC]

Quote: Gardamir

Stalin was responsible for everything, including the fact that "the cat abandoned the kittens"

When people start to get stupid, lazy, hackle, steal, rage, cease to be responsible for themselves, then Stalin must come to such a people.
Z. s. Whoever, whoever worked and whatever he did, everyone should answer for their actions with their own heads, "stole-drank", broke the official, did not fulfill the plan, go ahead to the felling and the mines.

[NordUral]

There was no cult, there was respect for the great man. And the fear of nobodies. Now they are in power, and what is our country now?

[Ivan Ivanov]

In this context, it is interesting to note how a flock of liberal bloggers, including young ones, suddenly rushed to expose the Soviet past.

[Tatyana Pershina]

They say that the younger the liberal, the worse he lived under Stalin.

[Mestny]

The same statement applies to young "communists".
Only with the opposite sign.
Both those and others - demonstrate primeval ignorance. But the truth is, the second thirst on this basis to destroy everything.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: IvanIvanov

In this context, it is interesting to note how a flock of liberal bloggers, including young ones, suddenly rushed to expose the Soviet past.

Not the first time. This happened when, on the RTR project, "The Name of Russia," Stalin won by a margin, and then, at the very end of the project, Nevsky suddenly bypassed him on a crooked mare. Yes, even there something was blamed on the attacks of hackers.

[Gardamir]

And everything is simple. "You will know them by their fruits." Comparing the present with the past, the Present lag behind in everything. What have they done for the people? Here is a fresh proposal, there is no such law yet, but they really want to make intersections and roads toll. Are these all new taxes that will help fight the American military?

Is this possible under I.V. Stalin? And now they are trading the country wholesale and retail. But they are also proud ..

[Non liberoid Russian]

and on what basis is this ... mmm ... nonsense?

[Gardamir]

on what basis

The Rusal company (Deripaska), with which the US Treasury lifted sanctions in January, will build a plant for the production of aluminum for the US automotive industry in the US state of Kentucky.

The launch of a new plant in the United States is scheduled for 2020. The capacity of the enterprise will be 500 thousand tons of hot rolled tape and 300 thousand tons of finished products of cold rolled per year. The Taishet aluminum smelter, which Rusal is currently building in Siberia, will supply aluminum to the enterprise.

The Wall Street Journal notes that such enterprises in America have not been built for more than 30 years. The plant will become the largest rolling aluminum company in the United States.

[Non liberoid Russian]

and? did Deribaska want to build a plant from the usa, and so what? Lord, stop writing fairy tales already ...

[Mestny]

For the majority of the "red" audience will do. What are they there - will they climb to check?
Moreover, it, the audience, is sharpened as a purely protest, as a rally meat and sacred sacrifice.
In the matter of destruction, all means are good - even though Stalin is on the lips, even damn bald.

Well, the classic is the color revolutions. No fancy.

[Non liberoid Russian]

the fact of the matter is that people used to believe and think forgotten slogans ... that they feed and then yells

[NordUral]

Not a Russian liberoid! Go deep into the topic, and then comment and rate the cues of others.

[Non liberoid Russian]

I got it, only some "tovarischi" have not forgotten how to lie, they post slogans and carry nonsense as proof

[AU Ivanov.]

That is, when Daimler-Benz builds its plant in Russia, this is bad. When Rusal builds its business in the USA, is that bad too? By the way, Severstal, until recently, owned metallurgical plants in the United States. Which category do you classify?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

and on what basis is this ... mmm ... nonsense?

Yes, at least on such as ten years ago.

Project "Name of Russia", data for July 11.

[Non liberoid Russian]

ale, citizen, I know this rating, I’m just wondering why a certain gardamir began to claim that Siberian hydroelectric power plants are under the control of the United States, pictures that post funny cards with flags of another state on a hydroelectric power station in Siberia))))

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

Ale, citizen, I know this rating, I’m just wondering why a certain gardamir began to claim that the Siberian hydropower plants are under the control of the United States,

Ah, that. Well, google who joined the board of directors of En +, which owns the cascade of the Angarsk hydroelectric power stations, after lifting the sanctions on Deripaska.

[Non liberoid Russian]

and? before you raise dust here, you would study the charter of this company)))) the fact that they were included in the composition of the directors does not mean that they began to manage ... they have only an advisory vote and can give recommendations, since they do not have stock support , wage-earners

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

they have only an advisory voice and can make recommendations,

If their recommendations are not followed, then those who have "shareholder support" will receive another portion of the sanctions fraction in a soft spot.
Here from the same opera:

Deripaska will reduce his stake in En + from 70 to 44,95%, his voting power will be limited to 35%. VTB received the businessman’s shares (the bank’s share increased from 7,65% to 22,27%), as well as the Volnoe Delo charity supported by Deripaska. Neither VTB nor Volnoe Delo will be able to vote on their shares - they will have to transfer this right to third parties.

https://www.forbes.ru/biznes/371723-nezavisimyy-en-kto-prishel-v-sovet-direktorov-holdinga-posle-snyatiya-sankciy

[Altona]

At Putin's elections in 2018, I spoiled my ballot with the inscription "Only Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin-Generalissimo, General Secretary of the CPSU (b), Chairman of the USSR Council of People's Commissars." And I think that about such a person at the head of state is needed now.

[Boris55]

Quote: Altona

In the Putin elections in 2018, I spoiled my ballot with the inscription "Only Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin

I think that even in the days of Stalin, you would write something similar in his address.

The situation is that in Stalin's times, which is now almost identical, with the only difference being that it is practically impossible to act by the methods of Stalin in today's conditions, although high-ranking officials are regularly landing.

You voted against Putin, who:
- restored the vertical of power, which did not allow Russia to collapse;
- ensured the country's food independence (do you still remember the "bush legs"?);
- ensured the country's defense capability;
- etc..

Here is what you voted against.

[Altona]

Quote: Boris55

You voted against Putin, who:
- restored the vertical of power, which did not allow Russia to collapse;
- ensured food independence of the country (do you still remember the legs of the bush?);
- ensured the country's defense capability;
- etc..

That's what you voted against.

------------------------------
Boris55, as usual, you give out slogans and wishful thinking. Spoiled ballots still go for the main candidate. I already knew that, but it’s just that the elections are so arranged that if you took the ballot, you would still vote. This is the first.
I voted against Putin because:
1) The vertical of power has already snickered and offends the people
2) Putin handed over the country to TNCs and feeds people palm oil.
3) Putin will not change the Government.
4) Putin is the initiator of the pension reform and new taxes, skillfully hiding behind the backs of the boyars and zealously following the IMF's guidelines. If Putin says that something needs to be done for the people, then this is a team for Siluanov and Nabiullina to take this money from the people.
5) The country's defenses are ephemeral and are not reported to us. As long as there is a guaranteed vigorous Kuzkina mother from the USSR, it seems that we are protected.

Etc., including garbage throughout the country, deforestation and more, negative demography.

That's what I voted against, Boris.

[Boris55]

Quote: Altona

I voted against Putin because:
1) The vertical of power has already snickered and offends the people
2) Putin handed over the country to TNCs and feeds people palm oil.
3) Putin will not change the Government
4) Putin is the initiator of the pension reform and new taxes ...

Who allows the executive branch, do you have the same claim for this branch, to snooze? Do you have any complaints about the legislative power?

Tell me, purely theoretically, the Duma can return the Stalin Constitution? Can. What about the president? He cannot - he does not accept laws.

Quote: Altona

That's what I voted against, Boris.

Presidential power - executive power with elements of legislative initiative, like a deputy. While you will roll the barrel and revenge the dust on the performers - nothing will change. Land on this place even you, you will only do what the legislative power allows you, which does not go beyond the power of ideological promoting the current management concept.

[AU Ivanov.]

As for the forest: under the USSR, the forest was cut down in much larger volumes than now. And it was also exported in the form of round timber.

[Roma 1977]

And the proceeds from him were transferred to offshore?

[Mestny]

He doesn't know what "Bush's legs" are. Knows nothing. He was told how good it was in the USSR, and he believes. Not understanding. that they told with one purpose - to pour into the head the thought that now everything is bad.

[Mikhail3]

Quote: Boris55

in today's conditions it is almost impossible

In the current conditions, as in all other conditions, it is quite possible to act by the methods of Stalin. Because these are the only methods known in history that really work in state macro-construction. Only with their help can truly significant success be achieved.
Attempts to control economic and political processes behind the scenes, when the peoples are deceived by "democracy" and the world is ruled by financial clans, have completely failed. We see stagnation and stagnation in the economy, massive robberies and murders of entire countries, the growth of destruction and self-destruction in all spheres of spiritual life. In the past, people used to fight each other. And now people hound each other and beat each other in the back with cute smiles. This is better? Hehe ...

[NordUral]

- ensured the country's food independence (do you still remember the "bush legs"?);
What kind of food independence are you talking about, Boris? Get into the topic, you will feel bad from the real situation, and not the one on the TV screens.

[Boris55]

Quote: NordUral

What kind of food independence are you talking about, Boris?

Everything is relative.

[AU Ivanov.]

And what is wrong with food independence? We export poultry meat, pork too. For grain exporters are number one in the world, and do not buy grain in Canada, as under Brezhnev.

[Roma 1977]

Cows are much smaller than when Brezhnev became. And the cows had to be fed. And so that people would have enough.

[NordUral]

Spoiling the ballot is nice, Eugene. And it is your right! But by ruining it, you indirectly voted for Putin.

[Julius Caesar]

Again, the liberal intelligentsia will begin to squeal on the topic: this people has broken, give another ...

[Mestny]

So far, only the communist squeals - "the votes were counted incorrectly, give other counters."

[Bull Terrier]

I can not stand such polls and such article titles. To approve what Stalin did in what area? only he could win the Second World War and I have no doubt even at that. Only a person with such a harsh character is capable of this and this is a fact. But there were many other things that normal people cannot approve of. If it’s easier, if the country is about to start a war, then only he, if the world, then such a person will destroy it.

[Tank jacket]

But the war is on and people are dying ... informational, economic, monetary, historical, ideological, worldview. Cold ...

[Bull Terrier]

I’m talking about the war and not about the state in which we have been living for decades.

[Tank jacket]

This is the state in which I was born and grew and live, this is the war against the Russians and Russia, it will be eternal. We do not notice it, because it has always been so.

[Gardamir]

there were many other of his affairs

You see, from the time of the state of Urartu to the current Russian Federation, methods of managing the state have not changed. To be objective, then today's rulers in the Russian Federation can make the same claims. They hide only their affairs, and all the bad things are pi I.V. Stalin is exaggerated. Suffice it to recall how they rewrite recent history. And finally, trust Nikita not to respect herself.

[Andrey VOV]

Yes ... Khrushchev in order to whitewash himself and wash the blood from his hands all that he could poured on Stalin ... and what he did for 11 years of his stay at the top of the power ... maybe there is a detailed clear analysis of that damage, direct and indirect that he did, but I didn’t read, if someone can give a link to the materials ...

[Mestny]

They then understand why they are doing this - they need to be in power.
But why are you exaggerating the good under Stalin? For the same purpose - to get to power?
Because I'm sorry - I won’t believe that it’s just for justice. These are teenagers in 14-15 years so can. An adult - never, if he is healthy of course.

[Gardamir]

why exaggerate the good under Stalin?

Well, let's just say, but who are the judges. Power criticizes I.V. Stalin for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, itself concludes such agreements and the like all the time. After all, this is not some kind of global justice. Just if we judge I.V. Stalin, let's judge the current ones with the same measure.
And finally, it seems I already wrote this. For many, an expression of love for I.V. Stalin is a substitute for the fact that it is impossible to express openly hatred of the current ..

[Mestny]

Yes, I’m not in a complaint about the current, judge the health.
I'm talking about the bloated fairy tales about the ideal country in the jelly banks and its all-seeing powerful leader.
Well, honestly, as in a joke - 3 meters tall, eyes burn with fire, how they look at whom - so everything is dead and fall.
This aggressive primitivism is depressing. It is meaningless and extremely destructive precisely as a carrier of truthful information from the times of the USSR and the communist idea.
And since this is so - why then is all this done in such a primitive form?
It’s not at all then, in order to build something there, a social society, but just just to get the opportunity to weaken or throw off the power.
Just for that.

[Gardamir]

bloated tales

The farther from historical reality, the greater the mythology. The note made above is closer to me here.

Joseph Vissarionovich built not socialism and communism, but in the framework allotted to him by history, and based on its realities built a great state,

[Mestny]

So do me! It is in this form.
Let's ask ourselves 3 questions.
1. Do we REALLY want to build a social state on communist principles?
2. Can this be done using invented myths, thus attracting new "builders"?
3. If successful, how long will such a system last - based on incorrect information and, as a result, conclusions?

And it turns out that honestly answering these questions, we come to the conclusion that we are doing all this and telling for the sake of the authorities. That is, the goal is simply to gain power, unlimited access to the cake.
And there it is.
Is it possible to build communism? No, of course.
Does such propaganda help construction? Again, no. Only harms.
At least the construction project does not exist real ideas of the present. Strange as it may seem, no one bothered to get together and try to really work out the options based on actual sources of information, using modern methods.
And then - offer it all.
So no.
One sweetened lie. Those of the same hundred years ago - yes more dense. sprinkle sugar with it.

[Bull Terrier]

In addition to ideas, there will still be a question of their co-authors in which everything will rest. And everything will be as always

[Mestny]

Whatever the idea is - originally built on a lie, it is doomed to failure sooner or later.
The lie in this case is not the desire to build a just state or society. This is just what you need to do.
Lies in this case are ridiculous stories about such a completely invented state with milk rivers and jelly banks.
As it was a hundred years ago - "communism is when the poor do not work, they eat from the belly, and the rich work instead." Or "when communism comes, we take everything from the rich and give it to the poor."
On the basis of such nonsense for the uneducated people built that all the same in the end collapsed with a bang.
And here again, about the same thing, in almost the same words?
No, thanks.

[Bull Terrier]

Yes, I don’t argue) I don’t believe in social states in which everyone is happy. This is utopia. Now is the time of opportunity, but people still want freebies and more. I don’t want to live like that and I can’t

[Roman070280]

2. Can this be done using invented myths, thus attracting new "builders"?

Take as a basis a personally invented phrase about "invented myth" .. Pass it off as truth, as an axiom .. and then ask a question ..))

It's like a discharge - Can you be made a man without the help of Professor Preobrazhensky ??

[Roman070280]

about bloated fairy tales about the ideal country in the jelly banks

Why write knowingly ?? There was not a word with idealism in those days ..
But you persistently, in a primitive form, turn things upside down over and over again .. At the same time, you yourself admit that you didn’t live and don’t know how it was ..
So what the hell is your opinion should be more accurate than the opposite ..

[Roman070280]

Why are you exaggerating the good under Stalin?

You didn’t live with him .. So what kind of propaganda are you pouring again ?? What kind of exaggeration is it ?? Write about the understatement ..
Are you just shitting for justice ?? Or do you want to get to power ??

[Obem]

Quote: Bull Terrier

only he could win the Second World War and I have no doubt even at that.

a lot of mind is not necessary to simply crush the Germans, in the literal sense, with meat.

[Andrey VOV]

You would be careful to rush with phrases, and if you write this, then your abilities immediately raise doubts

[Obem]

Quote: Andrey VOV

You would be careful to rush with phrases, and if you write this, then your abilities immediately raise doubts

well, that is, everything was wrong? and it is not we who have lost millions of people?

[Andrey VOV]

But Hitler’s Germany didn’t lose millions? Was there command, was it crazy? And with regards to losses, that civilian population and army-figures are known

[Obem]

Quote: Andrey VOV

But Hitler’s Germany didn’t lose millions? Was there command, was it crazy? And with regards to losses, that civilian population and army-figures are known

Germany has lost far fewer people.

[ultra]

Quote: Obeme

Germany has lost far fewer people.

Germany has lost far fewer civilians.

[Andrey VOV]

Because we, unlike the Nazis, did not arrange the genocide of the German people, did not burn and did not shoot millions of their citizens

[ultra]

Quote: Obeme

and it is not we who have lost millions of people?

And we lost millions and the Germans. The losses directly to the German military personnel of their allies and the USSR are quite comparable.

[AU Ivanov.]

Have you ever been interested in the structure of our losses? Nothing that peaceful killed almost 2 times more than combatants? Our losses on the battlefield are quite comparable with the German. The losses of civilians and prisoners of war are by no means on our conscience.

[Bull Terrier]

This is complete nonsense.

[Mestny]

And here we will correct you.
Such a country as the USSR - in size, in tasks. and according to the current situation, it was extremely difficult to lead.
So difficult that exactly one person could do it.
How it was there for the bulk of the population is a separate issue. However, it is safe to say that there was simply no other option for leadership.

[Roma 1977]

Nicholas II did not succeed in crushing either the Germans or the Japanese with meat ... So, besides meat, something else is needed.

[NordUral]

Bull Terrier! I completely agree with the first half! But about "some of his affairs", then it's time to clarify what kind of business it is and whose business it is in reality.
And about the start of the war - so the imperious gang is now creeping into all the places on the planet where there is something to snatch into their bottomless pockets. Climb the news. These drag the country to death.

[Bull Terrier]

Well, you can not climb. Sit here. Build a fence along the borders and do nothing. How does it end you know?) To find your interests in the world any it is right. Benefit from this, too. This is chess and not checkers, here everything is more complicated at times

[NordUral]

Or maybe put your country in order? Beautiful homes, healthcare, education, industry and science, agriculture! It is a shame to look at how we live outside the reserves for oligarchic thieves and their servants, and outside the capitals and large cities.

[Bull Terrier]

I don’t know about you, but I love my city. With health protection I also see no difficulties. Over there, my mom recently drove the inspection I wanted to do. But it turned out that everything was free of charge according to the program, without any queues or other difficulties. My senior grade is finishing my education. I am happy with everything. School is super easy. I’m not familiar with agriculture since our summer house is a place of rest and we don’t plant greenery besides greens))) understand that putting things in order does not mean giving up the rest to please it. Only what you do and only you is reflected in your life. I don’t argue a lot of difficulties, only personally I don’t ask a lot from the state. Main peace and tranquility. While it copes with this

[Andrey VOV]

What region do you live in?

[Bull Terrier]

DV Khabarovsk

[Andrey VOV]

If it’s not a secret in which area? Why I ask .. I lived there for 16 years, Gorky))) back in the USSR, when the factory was lively and a good half worked there and the stadium was also a swimming pool, was occupied there .. and the pioneer camp) )) eh .... beauty

[Bull Terrier]

The very center) to the embankment creeping minutes 2) went down to the boulevard and beauty)

[Andrey VOV]

And really in Khabarovsk, let's say so more and more socially now? I just have not been there since 1990 and have not had any contacts with any of my former comrades ... it's just that everyone scolds medicine that is outside the Moscow Ring Road ... well, it's like example ... although there is a greater share of truth in such a statement

[Bull Terrier]

How many people have so many opinions. For myself, I can say that I did not find any particular difficulties. He wrote about mom, father fell ill when everything was on the level. He died, but he just passed it. Everyone flew with him from the ambulance to the doctors. All my friends are apartments who have made civil apartments for youth programs for themselves, and it really works and is profitable. Mom receives a pension like 16 thousand plus all sorts of benefits but she takes it and him. Works. Something expensive, something not very.) You can live in general) only boring)

[Andrey VOV]

clearly ... sorry for the island of Ussuri and Tarabarov ... given ....

[Bull Terrier]

Yes, actually it would be something to worry about, given the fact that there are no more clashes with China and there will be no border issues? All is in plus

[Andrey VOV]

Yes, I spent all my childhood there with friends in the summer, a tent, fishing .....

[Gardamir]

the senior 1 class finishes.

So you didn’t even live in the Union?

[Bull Terrier]

He lived. My family did not get married before 30. neither father nor grandfather nor great-grandfather. You will not give anything good to your wife or child as a lieutenant.

[rocket757]

The conclusion is simple - the people do not ..... love and disbelieve those who rule now, and to all, to some extent, who ruled after Stalin.
The current leaders are so simple in this "love and faith" !!!

[Serjio]

The main thing to remember is that rogues under the guise of leftists like parasite Udaltsov and millionaire Zyuganov, pushing oligarch G. into the power, have nothing to do with the Bolsheviks of the time of Stalin. There are many questions to Semin who supports Udaltsov (signed in on Twitter in particular) .

[Vlad 63]

I don’t know if he said these words. If said, it’s impressive.

[Captain stoner]

False quote.

[Andrey VOV]

Vlad63 indicated that he does not warrant for reliability, but you categorically write that she is lying, where did you get this data?

[Andrey VOV]

I insulted you? I accused you of stupidity? So where is this rudeness? I ask the site administration to pay attention to this person

[Andrey VOV]

But get a warning from the moderator, then you’ll understand .. and don’t touch my face .. is it clear to you? I already wrote a complaint about your rudeness ..

[Friend of the People]

Nuuu, this is a terrible punishment :))) And even more "terrible" is to be left without reading all your nonsense.
Take care of your face. And do not spray with drool.

[Captain stoner]

*** I do not know if he spoke these words? If you said, then impressive ***.

Yes, the authorship of the words is not exactly known. But if he said it, it is impressive (!!!). And if this nonsense came up with his semi-literate fans, then it is no longer impressive. Here the ability to groveling, servility and "chameleonism" is clearly visible at some genetic level.

[military pensioner]

Under Stalin there was a cult, but there was also a PERSONALITY!
Now there is CULT, but no personality!

[Mestny]

Where does the identity information come from?
From the newspapers of the time? and now in the newspapers everything is more than in order. And there is a personality.
What is the problem? What's the Difference?
I'll tell you what.
Now you have the opportunity to feel how it really is. And the discrepancy between reality and newspapers offends you to the core.
Imagine that even then it was almost the same. Newspapers wrote one thing, but the people around saw something else.

[stalki]

A survey of Russian citizens conducted in March this year by the Levada Center on the approval of Joseph Stalin's activities brought unexpected results. As it turned out, the percentage of people who approve of the Soviet leader broke a historical record for all the years of research on this topic,

Well, for them it may come as a surprise, but for us a logical pattern

[Roma 1977]

IMHO wrong wording: "with indifference." People with irreversible organic brain damage are treated with indifference to Stalin. Rather, it should be said: "Ambiguous attitude", not "indifferent", because the achievements of the Stalinist era are colossal, but just as colossal are his miscalculations.

[Mestny]

Let me agree with you.
The main thing is not to tell tales about an ideal society, as well as not to recreate the cult of the Ideal Leader again.
And the propagandists of the new communist idea are doing just that.

[Captain stoner]

The first part of the lives of my deceased parents (approximately 20-25 years) fell on the years of Stalin's rule. I have never heard from them even the mention of this surname. He did not exist for them at all.

[Andrey VOV]

Where did your parents live and where do you live now? And who were they at that time?

[Roma 1977]

Martians, camping.

[Andrey VOV]

And you have not answered a specific question.
My grandmother celebrated her 11th anniversary on April 95th, while she was in full mind and health, and to my question, granny, how was it like under Stalin ... the answer was one-hard, but they believed in him, were proud that there was such a leader, and in the war they fought not for him but for their homeland, and the fact that there were repressions ... and when they were not? this despite the fact that their family was dispossessed at one time ..

[Mikhail3]

And my parents. They immediately interrupted my outpouring about "Stalin's excesses" that I brought from school. They answered so - what exactly Stalin did, you will understand when you grow up, if you are smart. Many truck drivers from his father's household drove his portrait behind the windshield. And my father treated these people with emphasized respect. Once I heard him talking to such a driver - you came to work drunk at the harvesting shop !? Take your portrait immediately! The man almost cried ...

[loginovich]

Long live the second Socialist revolution!

[Bull Terrier]

Well, well ... you really want to beat the country again and look at it with blood. What is not your desire

[free]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, well ... you really want to beat the country again and look at it with blood. What is not your desire

Do you know the meaning of the word revolution? Well, and where does the blood come from? People want justice, not so much prosperity as justice. And this request in society is so great that it will be realized regardless of whose desire or desire. The process has begun and it cannot be stopped

[Bull Terrier]

Well, it means that you probably have to return to the service that you and your revolution haven’t ruined my next country again.

[free]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Well, it means that you probably have to return to the service that you and your revolution haven’t ruined my next country again.

Come back. But I don’t understand how you decided that WE want to ruin the country? I don’t understand this. And the process cannot be stopped. Implementation does not depend on me or on you.

[Bull Terrier]

He taught history. You are not? Red terror and all that in memory does not pop up? But to stop ... Yes, there is nothing to stop. You will probably have a chance, since honestly you don’t win the elections anyway, so you want to break everything. Through the knee. But there you can see whether or not you can.

[free]

Quote: Bull Terrier

He taught history. You are not? Red terror and all that in memory does not pop up? But to stop ... Yes, there is nothing to stop. You will probably have a chance, since honestly you don’t win the elections anyway, so you want to break everything. Through the knee. But there you can see whether or not you can.

Healthy again.
We do not want to break anything, we want to live and not survive.
We want to love and enjoy, build and give.
Make great discoveries and reach new heights.
Do you want to deny us this of our right?

[Bull Terrier]

For some reason I succeed without shouting about Stalin or socialism. Live. At the same time live honestly. For some reason I can, for some reason my mother may be 66 years old. You are not. Surprisingly straight. And hammer on the slogans, I can’t stand them from childhood. This is some kind of insanity. People who cannot change their life even want to change it for others) we want. I do not want.

[free]

Quote: Bull Terrier

For some reason I succeed without shouting about Stalin or socialism. Live. At the same time live honestly. For some reason I can, for some reason my mother may be 66 years old. You are not. Surprisingly straight. And hammer on the slogans, I can’t stand them from childhood. This is some kind of insanity. People who cannot change their life even want to change it for others) we want. I do not want.

You don’t want to, it’s already understandable. But life will change, including yours. And there is nothing to be done about it.

[vlad106]

Quote: loginovich

Long live the second Socialist revolution!

I am afraid that the Trotskyites executioners will again crawl there (into the leadership), who will flood the country with rivers of blood of the Russian people

[BAI]

The society has matured a request for order in the state. Corruption and irresponsibility all got.

[tasha]

Your truth. And everyone sits and waits for someone to come, fly in, rise again and restore such a desired order.

[Ross xnumx]

70% of Russians surveyed said that Stalin played a "rather positive" or "entirely positive" role in the history of the country. 19% of respondents said about the negative role of the leader. The number of people who consider the “human sacrifices that the Soviet people suffered during the Stalin era" unjustified fell from 60 to 45%.

Years passed. Conclusions are drawn and summed up, not even by us. Everyone knows the phrase about plow and the atomic bomb. There is nothing to add.

Face to face
Faces can not see.
Great seen in the distance.
When the sea is seething,
The ship is in a deplorable state.
Earth is a ship!
But someone suddenly
For a new life, new glory
Into the direct thick of storms and blizzards
She sent it majestically.
Well, who among us on the deck is big
Did not fall, did not puke, and did not swear?
They are few, with an experienced soul,
Who remained strong in pitching.

[ODERVIT]

The level of approval has really increased, there is no arguing with that. But the "Levada Center" is poking its nose for a reason, some goals are indicated by this poll.

[Tank jacket]

You asked a very competent question. What are your hypotheses? I suspect that the survey itself should have pursued several goals, but it worked clumsily.

[gorez.69]

Quote: Sergej1972

Although the peak of power of the USSR in the world arena fell on the time of Brezhnev.

everyone who was after Stalin basically ate everything that was laid down in the economy and the military-industrial complex by Joseph Vissarionovich

[bober1982]

...... RBC reports with reference to the survey results.
It turns out more than curious, one of the mouthpieces of liberalism happily reports on such unsightly for them, liberoids (how they are branded) the results of such a survey, by the way, by the same liberal sociological Center. Then the question is - to whom? and for what? all this is necessary.

[depressant]

And this is in order to expose us in front of the supposedly "progressive" humanity in the form of a dark, commonplace mass, not susceptible to "domestication with the bright ideas of liberalism."

[bober1982]

It is unlikely that "progressive" humanity is concerned with such polls, they are more concerned with the problem of asexual existence and the needs of general use.

[Mestny]

It's simple.
In this case, the goals of the "liberoids" and the communists "coincided. Therefore, the results are so appropriate.
This goal, as we know, is the same for both of them - to lose power, and try to grab as much as possible on the wreckage of the country in troubled waters.
Only some talk about democracy, while others about social justice.

[bober1982]

I assumed that all unions are good, it’s like at one time the national bols and the famous chess grandmaster, but it would seem incompatible.

[Tank jacket]

You + for a qualitative analysis of the situation

[Mustached Kok]

Most likely, there was a calculation that after the 30th anti-Soviet propaganda people will vote for Stalin and Lenin the least of all, and then these statistics will be shown to the public as "another proof of the failure of communism." But people are learning more and more what was then and what is around now, because of this, the effect of the survey is fundamentally opposite. And the announcement of the results was organized in advance, which only hindered them. So during the second poll, Stalin's results had to be silenced, although he again had high results.

[bober1982]

Quote: Mustachioed Kok

Here are just people more and more find out what happened then and what is around now

In the years of perestroika, even polls were not necessary, Stalin was a villain, speaking differently was considered not just bad form - it meant being a marginal. Times are changing, then it was necessary to "bring down" the Union, that's why there was such an installation, now everything has turned 180 degrees.
In my opinion, the situation has changed, now is not the notorious perestroika times when people literally rushed to any yellow newspaper with millions of copies.
Among my current acquaintances, friends, pals, neighbors - no, Stalinists, monarchists, nationalists, opportunists. They all that Stalin, that Nicholas II - all one.

[Million]

"At the same time, it is noted that the level of positive attitude towards Stalin is higher than towards Brezhnev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin and other heads of state."
Brezhnev can be removed from this list. And the rest taken together will not outweigh Joseph Vissarionovich!

[depressant]

A kind request to the authors of the Military Review. Let's get back to discussing the personality of JV Stalin somewhere on Saturday morning. Say on analytics. Give the article as a seed. And you, colleagues, prepare yourself so as not to unfounded, not to emotions. We will wall to wall. Time!

[free]

Quote: depressant

A kind request to the authors of the Military Review. Let's get back to discussing the personality of JV Stalin somewhere on Saturday morning. Say on analytics. Give the article as a seed. And you, colleagues, prepare yourself so as not to unfounded, not to emotions. We will wall to wall. Time!

Keep!
The time has come.

[NordUral]

Million! No - Brezhnev himself had a hand in the collapse of the Union. He is from this series, although he was not an enemy. But it was in his years that the decomposition of the country went at an accelerated pace.

[Million]

He was simply not allowed to leave on time ...

[NordUral]

So not really wanted. Yes, and it was already late when I started to ask.

[morpogr]

The level of this person is still very underestimated and studied. Time will show and shows how right he was and how accurately he foresaw the future.

[Sergei 777]

People miss a powerful country. And this is not surprising after the 90s. But Stalin’s times are terrible years. A time when millions of people were arrested and sat in camps with ridiculous charges against them. Repression by class groups. The horrors of collectivization.

[Andrey VOV]

Is your 90s nightmare better?

[Sergei 777]

I didn’t pose the question! No need to juggle.

[Sergei 777]

90 e is a terrible pay for at least some kind of democratic changes and a market economy. But Stalinism is a payment for impossible communism and personally Stalinist power.

[Andrey VOV]

The 90s, this is a terrible payment for the betrayal of the elite of the Great Homeland, which began after the death of I.V. Stalin and reached its peak under Gorbachev ... and a further consequence of this and the actions of those who seized power

[sds127]

in the Stalinist camps there were fewer people than was now convicted in the Russian Federation (all of a sudden, huh?) and much less than in the luminary and stronghold of the shit-democracy. Learn the story.

[Sergei 777]

Where are the facts? You are our historian ....

[sds127]

in any archive, any statistical reference book and review .... on the Internet finally. anywhere except liberoids screaming. Look, get acquainted with the information, think it doesn’t hurt

[AU Ivanov.]

But what if the law is inevitably applied in all severity? How many people will sit? And for the cause.

[NordUral]

If it weren’t for collectivization, Sergey 777, then if you were in this life today, you would work as a farm laborer for a German master, eating rutabaga.

[Sergei 777]

No one knows how and what would be. Russia held the German-Austrian front for 3 years, and defeat did not go there. But the Brest Peace, in which the gigantic part of Russia was occupied by the Germans, is the work of the Bolsheviks themselves.

[NordUral]

Exactly, precisely the Bolsheviks, 777! What do you want them to take with Moscow and Petrograd?
But I don’t understand how sideways collectivization you added to the First World War?

[Sergei 777]

I would like the Entente to win in place with Russia. Without Lenin, Stalin and other fighters for "happiness" around the world.

[NordUral]

And what is this happiness you see, 777? Hundreds of thousands who died for the interests of England, millions of wounded and a devastated village. Or all-Russian prosperity? Just what do you see it?

[Sergei 777]

Or all-Russian prosperity?

And where did you see him under Stalin?
I remind you, we are discussing Joseph Stalin! And it brings you into theoretical demagogy.

[Andrey VOV]

Just three points:
1 / Literacy rate under Stalin and H2
2. Level of medicine and life expectancy
3. The level of industry ..

[free]

Quote: Sergey 777

No one knows how and what would be. Russia held the German-Austrian front for 3 years, and defeat did not go there. But the Brest Peace, in which the gigantic part of Russia was occupied by the Germans, is the work of the Bolsheviks themselves.

How did the Bolsheviks carry out a revolution in a country with a happy population living in abundance, a strong and devoted army, a strong economy? Discover the secret !?

[Sergei 777]

But how did the Democrats throw off the CPSU and divide the USSR in 1991? After all, in the USSR was both a loyal army and a strong economy? And most importantly, the prosperity is heaps!

[free]

Quote: Sergey 777

But how did the Democrats throw off the CPSU and divide the USSR in 1991? After all, in the USSR was both a loyal army and a strong economy? And most importantly, the prosperity is heaps!

No need to answer a question with a question.
Answer mine and I will answer yours.

[Sergei 777]

Our questions have one answer. So that.....

[free]

Quote: Sergey 777

Our questions have one answer. So that.....

No, not at all.

[TAMBU]

trillions of people ... read statistics, archives and history.

[Sergei 777]

What trillions ????? What are you speaking about? I wrote about millions !!! Learn math and alphabet

[bolt]

But the data from another survey. More specific, longer held, covering many times more people.

So

February 8, 2019 portal "Free press" published another poll. The audience was asked to decide:

"Which of the leaders has made the greatest contribution to the development of the country over the past 100 years."

During the week over 20 thousand people spoke out.

Leaders are determined almost immediately.

In the first place with a huge margin was Joseph Stalin (almost 63%). Immediately after him - the current president of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. His result, however, is many times lower than that of Stalin - 12%. The third place was shared by the founder of the Soviet state Vladimir Lenin (8,3%) and Leonid Brezhnev (8,4%), with whose name the concept of "stagnation" is associated.

https://svpressa.ru/society/article/224872/?utm_source=politobzor.net

[vanavatny]

surprisingly: a powerful leap continues, explosive salary growth (on topilin) ​​continues, stability grows stronger, corrupt officials tirelessly fight corruption, and a declining population looks with nostalgia to the past ... as for Stalin’s, each has its own methods and ways to achieve goals, but there should always be at least a clear plan and determination to implement it, and Putin is weak and very strong
anxiety on the topic of whom, in the role of the receiver, the swamp surrounding him

[DEDPIHTO]

Vanyavatny. We started for health and finished ....

[midshipman]

K I.V. Salina will always be treated with approval. Our people also approve of Tsar Ivan the Terrible. These are the leaders of the country who revived and strengthened the country. I have a commendable diploma (as an excellent pupil at the end of grade 7) with his portrait. IM proud of.

[Loess]

All this is strange ... Those individuals who have repeatedly stated loudly that they do not trust Levada now have never doubted the results of the survey ... Apparently, the credibility of the questionnaire is directly related to how much the results of the survey correspond to their ideas about how must be really ...

[tasha]

You have very, very true noticed.

[sds127]

nothing strange. the country just needs a new IVS. And people will approve it. Strongly approve. IMHO

[Kostadinov]

Quote: depressant

Stalin’s level of approval broke the record because Joseph Vissarionovich built not socialism and communism, but within the framework allotted to him by history, and based on its realities, he built a great state capable of opposing any external enemy and giving hope for a better future not only to its people, but and all of humanity.

Here, if you correct the text a little, everything will be accurate: "He built socialism and communism and therefore created a great state capable of resisting any external enemy and giving hope for a better future not only for his people, but for all of humanity." It will be better this way.

[Stalnov I.P.]

What he did, how he lived, the current leaders never achieve this. He did the business, and they are engaged in boltology and narcissism, and their affairs we see how the economy is developing, how the people live, what is the professionalism and moral standards of the current manager. I, such personalities of our time as LENIN, STALIN, ROOSEVELT, LEE KUAN YU, have proven their work and deeds, which today's boys do not have in short pants, wiping their snot with their fists.

[dobryKot]

Stalin is a symbol of justice, yet. It is difficult to imagine a son, for example Chubais, not just at the front, but at least serving in the army.

[1536]

Quote: rocket757

The conclusion is simple - the people do not ..... love and disbelieve those who rule now, and to all, to some extent, who ruled after Stalin.
The current leaders are so simple in this "love and faith" !!!

Dear Victor! It seems that you live with I.V. Stalin and if you had the opportunity to freely express your opinion, you would have made exactly the same "simple conclusion" about the then party-political leadership, which for the most part was lacking initiative, inert, arrogant, because it was terribly afraid of losing its place, or to get to the camp with the whole family on someone's denunciation. This is confirmed by the relatively short period of existence of the USSR after the death of I.V. Stalin. No one deeply studies how Stalin's decisions in the post-war period influenced the development of the country and the life of the people. Everyone is talking only about the atomic bomb, about the missile shield, about the flight into space. Yes, these are great achievements, which in a war-torn country without I.V. Stalin and his methods of government could hardly have been achieved. But it is impossible to idealize that era only by achievements. In those years, the main thing was not created - a viable system of governing the country, for the most part a self-regulating system capable of adapting over time to changing conditions, capable of protecting itself from a "fool" and external adverse factors, capable of giving the people a decent life, which he, having won in the battle against fascism, he was really worthy.
Unfortunately, such sociological polls in the short term do not lead to anything, distract and discourage the population, forcing them to compare incomparable, blame anyone for everything, just not themselves, wait for "good" officials, the great Stalin-2.0, well, and if there are no such suddenly in the foreseeable future, think about changing the "bad" to "good" in another way.

[Maalkavianin]

Great statesman of world scale. And we must be proud that such a leader was with us, and not somewhere.

[TAMBU]

now is the time for the President to remind citizens that "we" will not return to the path of socialism ...

[ZVS]

They want Stalin for two reasons:
1. In order for the country to finally begin to develop industry and create jobs.
2. That all the riches of the country fall into the hands of the state, and not a small handful of people sucking blood from the Russian people and covered by the leadership of the country.
There has never been such a mess with rampant gangsterism, pedagogy, theft, and theft in Russia - not even under the tsars, nor under the communists.

[NordUral]

It’s just that you have a misunderstanding based on ignorance or false knowledge, The harpoon.

[bk316]

GDP was the first politician to officially support Stalin,

About how!
They are ramping Stalin - GDP is to blame.
Support - GDP is to blame.
Again many faces?

[Mentat]

Quote: Vlad 63

For you picture

Of course, long understood.

[Den717]

At the same time, 51% of the respondents said that they treat Stalin with "admiration, respect and sympathy"

The Lenin-Stalin model of socialism in a single state, in principle, is quite justified and practically successfully worked out. But the communist party mold of the Brezhnev stagnation (not to be confused with the military draft and the time of the first post-war five-year plans) did not find the strength to creatively develop this model in the light of the changing world situation. As a result, the patriotic double party moral

[Den717]

At the same time, 51% of the respondents said that they treat Stalin with "admiration, respect and sympathy"

The Lenin-Stalin model of socialism in a single state, in principle, is quite justified and practically successfully worked out. But the communist party mold of Brezhnev’s stagnation (not to be confused with the military draft and the time of the first post-war five-year plans) did not find the strength to creatively develop this model taking into account the changing world situation. As a result, the double party moral of the party leadership from top to bottom, like rust, has corrupted the country's governance. The CPSU has lost the trust of the population and the country as a whole. And today, these scammers, gouging with foam at the mouth, are trying to prove to everyone the advantages of the social system, which they also slammed. Yes, Stalin - a lump, a seasoned human being, managed to be flexible and introduced the NEP in an economically difficult time, thereby saving the country's economy from collapse. The Chinese Communists have realized this feint and today use it in the state building of their state. Our communist government of the 70-80s took an orthodox position and lost touch with life. The second time it will not be possible to enter the same river, sighing is not productive. Revive the USSR 2.0 is impossible. And not because it is difficult, but because there is nobody. All these fragments of the communist loser cells, except for empty reasoning, are not capable of anything, which is also seen in the affairs of the Communist Party of the current draft. It remains to state that Stalin is great, but his heirs are gone.

[Andrey VOV]

A small clarification, Stalin I.V. did not introduce the NEP on his own ... under him, they turned it off, since at that time the beginning of the growth of the economy had practically outlived itself and did not meet the requirements of that time and the need for a real technological breakthrough ... but this is by no means He does not beg for his merits in the industrialization of our country, the fruits of which by and large we still use.
And what about your expression "communist Brezhnev mold" ... the destruction of everything that was laid down by Stalin's policy began not with Brezhnev

[Den717]

Quote: Andrey VOV

A small clarification, Stalin I.V. did not introduce NEP alone ..

I will not mind the facts. The new economic policy was introduced by the decision of the 10th Congress of the RCP (B) on 14, the main engine of the issue at the congress on this issue was V.I. Lenin. NEP, as you know, existed until October 03.1921, 31. Considering the disease, since 1931 all the main organizational work in the country was carried out by Stalin (since 1923 the general secretary of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks) and Trotsky (since 1922 the people's commissariat of war, since 1918 the leader of the internal party opposition). This is all, of course, simplified, for each of them stood their teams. Thus, most of the work on the implementation and development of the NEP was carried out, all the same, by IVS. And it was precisely from the results of the NEP that understanding and material formation of the foundations of industrialization and collectivization programs came. If very briefly.

Quote: Andrey VOV

It was not from Brezhnev that the destruction of all that was laid

Many high-ranking officials, for example, L.P. Beria, tried to optimize the economic life of the country, but the most fundamental ones were the reforms proposed by Kosygin during Brezhnev's time. The reform of Kosygin was sabotaged by Brezhnev together with his group of devoted comrades Tikhonov, Andropov, Chernenko, etc. As a result, she was drowned in undercover battles, believing that everything is so good. Having eliminated the main opponents, the Brezhnev group won the monopoly of power; there was no longer enough energy to renew it.

[Andrey VOV]

and Khrushchev’s attempts to optimize? there the level of their elaborations also left much to be desired ... what they did with the virgin lands .... the hair stands on end ... and here the role of the individual comes up as the first point! mind the facts of sabotage on the implementation of the decisions and instructions of Stalin ... and after him ... best of all, everyone learned to drown and imitate violent activity in a bureaucratic mud

[Den717]

Quote: Andrey VOV

But Khrushchev’s optimization attempts?

We are talking about fundamental things, about the role of market mechanisms in the economy. But Khrushchev’s voluntarism has nothing to do with this. Khrushchev was not a theorist, he simply followed the learned dogmas of a planned economy and raked up the remains of the post-war ruins. Partly very successful.

[Andrey VOV]

But I would not call it a good practitioner ... voluntarism .. well, nevertheless, under it, the cooperatives and small private enterprises were finally closed, which produced the so-called everyday goods, various small things, but without which the seam ... it seems a trifle, but ... whether it was not the first step to the emergence of a subsequent shortage of the simplest household trifle ...
and a little more detail regarding your last two lines about raking up ruins and prosperity, here it’s real without any sarcasm

[Den717]

Quote: Andrey VOV

about raking ruins and prospering

Well, at least the development of a typical panel housing construction. What was set up at the National Union of Artists is still standing, called "Khrushchebs". But at the beginning of the 60s, it was a real breakthrough in mass development and providing people with comfortable, at that time, housing.

[Andrey VOV]

Yes, I agree here ... I myself lived in such a "Khrushchev" ... as I saw a film about these construction sites, so some of the foremost brigades raised a 5-storey house of 4 entrances in a week !!!!!! not necessary, but nevertheless they still stand, and then people moving from barracks and basements were really happy

[Den717]

Quote: Andrey VOV

I don’t have to talk about quality, but still stand,

You contradict yourself. Practice is the criterion of truth. If a house costs a long time, then it cannot be of poor quality. Problems with the layout? From the point of view of today ... But after the barracks and communal apartments they were mansions. I’m also from such a slum. I lived there in a happy and eventful childhood, and I don’t understand why they (Khrushchev’s five-story buildings) are so dismissively arrogant.

[Andrey VOV]

Quality in terms of "smooth" walls, pipes, which a "smart" engineer rolled into the walls and which over time just turned into dust, I meant that, but the quality of the foundations and the material itself, I do not argue here ... well, plus there were also several types, series and projects, 4-storey buildings, 5 and 9 in my opinion ... but this is like the third, the result is more important here, millions of families moved to real human conditions, well, this factor probably played in the demographic in terms of population growth

[Mordor]

To my grave put a bunch of garbage but the wind of history will mercilessly dispel it

!

[Mustached Kok]

Just think. Stalin, like Lenin, was such a great figure that he is not indifferent to people even half a century after death !!! He is hated or praised! He is criticized or followed by advice! They are afraid of him or waiting for him! But no one forgot him !!!
And it is not surprising that more and more often, modern people, depending on what is happening in the country, say "Stalin is not on you !!!".

[Mavrikiy]

Stalin's approval level broke the historical record

Oh, they didn’t interrogate me, otherwise the level would still rise .....

in 2019, a total of 77% of Russian citizens treat Iosif Vissarionovich with approval or indifference, while 51% of those surveyed said that they treat Stalin with "admiration, respect and sympathy."

As always they lie, underestimated %%.

The negative role of the leader was declared by 19% of respondents.

They reduced it, added it here.

The number of people who consider unjustified "the human sacrifice that the Soviet people suffered in the Stalin era" has decreased from 60 to 45%.

Is it 45% against victory in WWII? Or like, Stalin is great, but the sacrifices are in vain. Or cowards, or a cross.

It is noted that the level of positive attitude towards Stalin is higher than towards Brezhnev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin and other heads of state.

An unfortunate oversight! Add: "combined"

[I'm from Russia]

Personally, my opinion was very, very strongly influenced by history textbooks and books describing the Stalinist repressions. Grew up, changed my opinion (a lot of lies and the "correct" presentation of facts, it turns out, was taught to us in the XNUMXs)

[Archivist Vasya]

I also approve!

and other heads of state.

... put together. This is a note to the current authorities.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Urgently broadcast Svanidze and Pozner for whining

[Roma 1977]

If these two are simply allowed to speak interrupting, then this in itself will be propaganda in favor of Stalin. They carry such game that any sober-minded person will start to twist at their words.

[Roman070280]

It’s hard not to admire those who really did something for the country, rather than robbing it ..
To be the leader of the Great State .. and die in the same boots .. such examples are found every few hundred years in history ..

[Konatantin 1992]

He was a great man and left a great country behind. It is enough to read what the "contemporaries" said about him:
Charles de Gaulle: "Stalin had tremendous authority, and not only in Russia. He knew how to tame his enemies, not panic when he lost and not enjoy victories. And he has more victories than defeats." "Stalin's Russia is not the old Russia, which perished along with the monarchy. But the Stalinist state without successors worthy of Stalin is doomed ..."

Winston Churchill: “It was a great happiness for Russia that during the years of the hardest trials the country was led by the genius and unshakable commander Stalin. unparalleled in the world, a dictator who accepted Russia with a plow and left it with nuclear weapons. Well, history, the people do not forget such people "

Franklin Roosevelt: "This man knows how to act. He has a goal always in front of his eyes. It is a pleasure to work with him. He presents a question that you want to discuss and does not reject anywhere."

[wooja]

Everyone is sick of the mess..., they need an owner - on the one hand, on the other - The population is a hindrance to the current government, there are too many of them, but the population doesn’t think so and is naturally looking for a Breadwinner and OWNER... and perhaps one will be found. .

[Igoresha]

Stalin would have shown it to the nostalgic. There would be no pension at all, only Nikita Sergeech introduced it to collective farmers

[Sewer krainiy]

How do you know what would have happened in the past tense? Not Khrushchev, but Petrov, Sidorov, Ivanov would have been introduced with the development of the national economy. And during the year, collective farmers were given a portion of what they earned in money and natural products, then, at the end of the year, when summing up the results of their financial activities at a general meeting, they decided together how many rubles and natural products to give out per workday earned. They argued until they were hoarse. I don’t remember how much and what my parents received... but I still remember 2 bags of sugar at the end of the year

[seacap]

Stalin fought against what is happening today, preparing the country for war and victories, great achievements and prosperity, and not for surrender and sale, the destruction of the Slavic civilization, the ancient dream of the so-called. West as our “respected leaders” and “masters of life” do. Industrial sectors and production were created by the labor of the Soviet people for the benefit of the entire country and for the sake of its prosperity, and not with the goal of surrendering them to the enemy and working for a power hostile to us, for the sake of developing its economy , according to the dictates of the new owner, turning the victorious people, never conquered by anyone in its entire more than 7500-year history, into slaves and servants, and without any struggle or resistance, but only because of their incompetence, cowardice and corruption.

[RBLip]

they said a lot about the plow with a nuclear bomb and about power.... but for me I.V. Stalin is a great man only because he did not exchange field marshals for lieutenants. tell me. Could Mr. Putin and all his associates do THIS today? That's why the problems keep growing. Stalin was for Russia. for the current ones - Russia for them.

[Tank jacket]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

Why see when it is enough to read your posts in different topics. Everywhere many-sided as the savior of the Fatherland is advertised ... And this is the old trick of the Zaputinists, when they attribute their trash like horses and ginger to the opponent

You were the first to give Putin's face to my Stalin - this is your trick...
I think that Stalin and Putin are conservatives. I consider myself a conservative too.

[DEDPIHTO]

We can probably agree that they are both conservatives. Only Stalin is a conservative of SOCIALISM, that is, social justice, and Putin is a conservative of OLIGARCHY!..on which I congratulate you
P.S. It wasn’t me who attached the face of the many-faced one, but you with your constant advertising... however, with your own weapon and according to your...

[Tank jacket]

You make a mistake when you consider the process in statics, but it should be in dynamics and in a historical context, and you also miss the theory of games with many players. I would like to learn.

[DEDPIHTO]

Do you happen to remember how many years the never-ending Santa Barbara was filmed? It seems to me that you can surpass that series if you make your own movie with the appropriate title, “KhPP,” - a movie for at least 20 years. Be sure to take local character Khrych as a co-author. Learn and move on...
p.s. You don’t have to thank me for the business project..

[Gardamir]

Putin conservatives

and so? That’s what he says himself, and not what you make up.
[media=https://youtu.be/cLjVqEKG44s]

[Tank jacket]

And that’s why he banned LGBT propaganda among children? And maternity capital and other steps to strengthen the family. Casinos and slot machines?

[free]

Quote: Tank jacket

And that’s why he banned LGBT propaganda among children? And maternity capital and other steps to strengthen the family. Casinos and slot machines?

Forbidden? Are you right?
How much does a ban mean when LGBT and gay people are a dime a dozen on TV? Juvenile justice is blooming and smelling. Malysheva on the first tells abominations in the public domain for children. TNT is sponsored by the state through Gazprom media.
So what kind of ban are we talking about?

[tatra]

317 comments in 6 hours. The post-Soviet period is an anomaly in everything, including the fact that there is no point in even discussing it. Neither the achievements of the enemies of the communists, nor the positive results of their highly paid work and their real human qualities, when they have no benefit in lying and being a hypocrite, nor their responsibility for what they did to their country and people. They have nothing to do with everything. They are even capable of defending each other only for money, or when it benefits them in their anti-Soviet/Russophobia.
That’s all, both those who lived during the Soviet period and those who after 1991 “and now it’s better than in the USSR,” still “live” in the USSR. Patriots - because this is BETTER for the country and the people than the pre-revolutionary and post-Soviet times, the enemies of the communists are trying to justify their seizure of the USSR through lies, slander, and manic criticism of the Soviet period, to make the communists and their supporters look bad, in order to make themselves look better than those.

[Andrey VOV]

Irina... well, it’s true, it’s hard to see the essence through your florid thoughts... well, let’s convey our thoughts more simply, clearly and less sloganeering

[tatra]

What specifically do you not understand? I'll explain everything to you. Maybe this will happen? The Soviet communists created the STATE in every sense, and the enemies of the communists are simply stupidly “eating up” the remains of that State. They have nothing of their own, everything is either Soviet or imported. The Soviet period was created by PERSONS, the post-Soviet period by Absolute Grayness, which is afraid of the slightest hint of responsibility for what it has created. Therefore, 30 years after the capture of the country by the enemies of the communists, something happens that was impossible to imagine 30 years after the capture of the country by the communists and their supporters - people discuss the previous period much more than the present.

[Andrey VOV]

Regarding the personalities who created our country, I absolutely agree, the scale of their deeds is impressive and will impress many generations. BUT one nuance.... one nuance, tell me, your opinion... from what period and who began the gradual retreat and collapse of the COUNTRY?

[tatra]

De facto, the destruction of the USSR, socialism, Soviet power, pro-Soviet ideology, began in 1985, when one of them seized power in the USSR with the help of the communists, who were eternal enemies for years and decades, for the benefit of pretending to be communists and their supporters. And NOBODY can prove how the USSR could have been destroyed if Gorbachev, or any other of the enemies of the communists, had not risen to power.

[Andrey VOV]

I don’t agree....it seems to me that the destruction of the USSR began earlier, from the time of Khrushchev...when finally the majority of the so-called communists in power at all levels put their personal well-being above state interests and a new class began to flourish rapidly, which can be called "party nomenklatura" or "party bourgeoisie", for which hypocrisy and duplicity have become the norm, broadcasting from high stands is one thing, but in reality doing something completely different

[Morphius]

You say the truth

[tatra]

Well, I WROTE that NO ONE can prove how WITHOUT Gorbachev, who SURRENDERED the country to the Stalinophobes, the USSR could have been destroyed, and you answered me with meaningless verbiage.

[Andrey VOV]

One person cannot destroy the country, remember Khrushchevo’s amnesty for Bandera’s followers, and this was a time bomb, with him buying grain for gold began, the Crimea, the territories of Kazakhstan, this is only part of the steps towards the collapse of the USSR......Your hatred of Gorbachev and fair, clouds your mind

[tatra]

How I hate meaningless verbiage. If you really want to refute my words, then do it adequately, and without verbiage. PROVE how without Gorbachev socialism could have been replaced by this system beneficial ONLY to the enemies of the communists, how the USSR without Gorbachev could have disintegrated into these evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic “independence”, how without Gorbachev pro-Soviet propaganda could have been replaced with anti-Soviet propaganda with praise of the enemies of the communists and justification their crimes.

[The point]

I send greetings from Tallinn,
Europe awaits Stalin ...

[tatra]

So, out of all the commentators, five are against Stalin, four of them are Kremlinbots, one is in question. What does it mean ? That the AUTHORITY ordered them to be angry against Stalin.

[DEDPIHTO]

Irina The most disgusting thing is that the image of I.V., beloved by the people. They are trying to seize Stalin like shipping factories ..there above I briefly outlined this to one local “advertising agent”

[Morphius]

No wonder Stalin showed that the socialist system is much cooler than the capitalist one, it is better in all respects, including in war, and Stalin was not a tyrant as they want to show us, he only wanted to stay in power and exalt the country.. Khrushchev pooped the country ..

[wooja]

The inefficiency of the USSR is greatly exaggerated..., but the greed of Parthozaktiv is greatly understated..., and, apparently, its business qualities are also not high..., masters of stealing, but as business executives - complete zero, in general, an increase in popularity, etc. Stalin --- this is the failure of our home-grown NEP..., the leader was right in covering up this shop...

[tatra]

Soviet communists are examples of honesty, in comparison with the thoroughly thieving pre-revolutionary and Stalinophobic authorities on the territory of the USSR captured by Stalinophobes, who for all 30 years after their capture of the USSR did not have a single justification for their seizure of the USSR, except for slandering those from whom they took country, and crucifications that the USSR had to be destroyed so that they could have a lot of things, and 27-year-old bragging about how much they had after the destruction of the USSR.

[wooja]

nevertheless, they ruined the country and their followers and heirs are in power and their slander and lies are understandable...

[tatra]

The essence of people on the Internet can be recognized by one phrase, even by one word, and similar phrases have been written and spoken for 30 years by people who COMPLETELY lack a sense of responsibility, whose life credo is “AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.” And with this, all 100 years after the October Revolution, they prove, both by what they did and by what they said and wrote, that they believe that they are worthy of owning the country, that they had every right to take the country away from the communists and their supporters, and After the capture of the USSR, they grabbed the country with a stranglehold and will never give it up to anyone peacefully.

[wooja]

after a fight they don’t wave their fists...., but it is necessary to admit that the real power was not the most worthy and honest --- it is necessary... that the real counterweight to the partyocracy - the Soviet government was a party and was destroyed - the communists are ashamed, but Stalin is needed... , necessary, but it's too late

[Morphius]

Quote: Morphius

in the regions will give the type of will of the people, rejoice, but they will not let them go to the top ..

I’ll add, well, they will elect them, so they won’t let him do anything, this is the system, they elected us from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and what, it has become even worse, because the system does not allow him to do as he should and puts a spoke in his wheels to show that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is not capable do something, but by the way she may not be able to...

[kefan]

No comment ...

[seacap]

Quote: RBLip

Should Mr. Putin and all his people do THIS?

So they have already changed, sending their children to Yales, Oxfords, etc., systematically and purposefully killing their education system and science, buying up whole blocks of real estate there.

[lis-ik]

This is actually the answer in the article about the attitude of the people to the current government. And no ratings are needed.

[Alexander X]

The reason for such a high percentage of approval is simple: Russians, against the pale anti-national background of the existing “effective top-echelon managers,” understood how positive, significant and grandiose the figure of Stalin was in the formation of the USSR and the lives of citizens of the USSR

[DPN]

At that time, J.V. Stalin played the role of LION - the result of VICTORY in 1945, in the 90s the people followed the sheep, you know the result, and we still brag about the Victory, by the way, this is the only thing that unites US all.

[tatra]

But the enemies of the communists were able to ruin Victory too. Some scream “at what cost”? For them, if the Nazis brutally exterminated about 18 million Soviet civilians, this is not a Victory, but a defeat, according to their perverted logic, if Stalin had ordered the killing of the same number of German civilians, that would be normal, they climb with their Lend-Lease to their beloved America, and Putin, from all his speeches at the Victory parades - it is not clear - who fought with whom, only “our country”, “our people”, only recently squeezed out the words “Red Army”.

[DEDPIHTO]

Irina, they are trying to grab everything and distort it in their favor. Many films on the theme of the Second World War have been made recently, but how they “unobtrusively” denigrate the Soviet regime, always inserting into these films stories with good patriotic people who allegedly suffered from the “Stalinist regime” - this is completely beyond the bounds.. But Soviet-made films with WWII themes began to be shown less and less, replacing them with such a Vlasov remake, designed primarily for fragile young souls... I think that over time they will be replaced 100% What else can you expect from the scoundrels.

[free]

This is the wind of history that J.V. Stalin spoke about.

[Al_lexx]

The main thing is that under Stalin real social elevators operated. Those who could actually work for them were selected for leadership positions. With the arrival of Khrushchev, clan-family governance of the country began. The principle of heredity and mutual responsibility has become ubiquitous among the elites. Not the best managers, but inveterate unprincipled scoundrels began to get to the top. Decent people did not rise above the primary party organizations or the level of the head of a workshop/laboratory. There were exceptions in both cases (especially in the defense industry), but they only confirmed these rules. We all know what this ultimately led to. And this is precisely the main difference between the Stalin and post-Stalin eras. Everything else is a consequence of these fundamentally different approaches.

[asher]

Does anyone have a desire to continue Stalin's work? To begin with, as it should be, create a party of real Bolsheviks, provide funding (and in many ways by expropriating the stolen Soviet heritage from those involved), create media for agitation and propaganda of the party’s policies, and then move forward into the struggle for the power of the workers’ councils! Oh, yes, I forgot to clarify that you won’t be able to get into deputies and other profitable positions just like that. A deputy should receive no more than the average salary of a worker, otherwise he is simply a parasite, and not a communist or a Bolshevik!

[tatra]

All this is very difficult, but everything is getting there. Before the last “Putin election” there was the slightest hint of this - the “leftists” were finally able to unite, develop a common Program, choose their candidate, around whom the patriots of Russia immediately began to unite, but how AFRAID the anti-Soviet clique was of even this slightest “spark” , staged a large-scale persecution of the candidate from the “left” everywhere - on TV, in the media, on the Internet.

[DEDPIHTO]

The persecution of the candidate from the left continues, but there are still honest journalists who refuse to carry out such orders -

[aybolyt678]

Quote: asher

Does anyone have a desire to continue Stalin's work? To begin with, how to create a party of real Bolsheviks

Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev....- The Party of Real Bolsheviks??

Quote: asher

provide funding (and in many ways by expropriating the stolen Soviet heritage from those involved)

this is only possible in war conditions, when soldiers shoot officers in the back, when tomorrow the masses will have nothing to eat, and when there is a firm belief that neither the authorities nor the priests will help the people. But we still believe in Vanga.
Stalin's case is his personal project. He called it creative Marxism. In 1918, the Bolshevik Party seriously proposed to wait until Germany conquered Russia and then, in full accordance with scientific Marxism, begin to build communism in Germany and then in Russia. Stalin found the right term and convinced him to go his own way.

[vlad106]

Quote: vlad106

Quote: bayard

rebellion will only ruin the state and destroy the people. Top cleaning must occur

Absolutely agree! It is CLEARING. And it is TOP. From the very top, thoroughly, sparing no one. On top of the villains and thieves. Decent people from the management pushed boors and robbers. Now the task of them is to liquidate, or to squeeze out with the subsequent direction to logging sites and mines

In their place, decent ordinary people from the people, from the outback, from among the indigenous peoples of Russia (Slavs, Finno-Ugrians, Turks, Circassians) must be put in management. Possible in p

Quote: vlad106

Quote: bayard

rebellion will only ruin the state and destroy the people. Top cleaning must occur

Absolutely agree! It is CLEARING. And it is TOP. From the very top, thoroughly, sparing no one. On top of the villains and thieves. Decent people from the management pushed boors and robbers. Now the task of them is to liquidate, or to squeeze out with the subsequent direction to logging sites and mines

And in their places, put literate, honest, decent, indigenous Russians (Slavs, Finno-Ugrians, Turks, Circassians), preferably in proportions to the total number. We have plenty of them all over the country, especially in the outback. I traveled a lot around the country in my time and I know many worthy people, not this current thief

[Evil echo]

“For the enemies of socialism, the Soviet government, a truly inexhaustible source from which most of their malicious slander against the power of the working people is drawn, “arguments” that support dirty attacks are sought out, has become the “cult of personality” and all the activities of I.V. Stalin. Assessments have been given to everything long ago , its causes and consequences were revealed. But the counter-revolution could not rest on this! On a huge scale, under the pretext of fighting the “cult of personality,” an unprincipled and unscrupulous denigration and falsification of absolutely everything that happened in the country after 1917 began. V. Pozner, M Shvydkoy, M. Shatrov, G. Baklanov, Yu. Afanasyev, G. Popov, a noisy pack of like-minded people spew out streams of lies, strive to spit on the majestic fact of world-historical significance - the transformation of a backward, semi-colonial country into a highly developed, modern, advanced, which even "They were called a superpower by their enemies. They blatantly and completely ignore the inclusion of millions of illiterate, downtrodden, oppressed people in the achievements of human progress!"
S. Karnaukhov
http://www.sovross.ru/articles/514/8366 Классная статья.

[DimerVladimer]

Well, haven't you seen black funnels for a long time?

[ccsr]

Quote: DimerVladimer

Well, haven't you seen black funnels for a long time?

You might think you caught them. Oh well...

[DimerVladimer]

Quote: ccsr

You might think you caught them. Oh well...

So family memory is good - the remaining old people remember well. And it was not so long ago - as the KGB freelance informers in the crews of the flight detachment also heard, they wouldn’t have been shot for telling an anecdote about Brezhnev, but they would have taken a pencil :)

[tatra]

As was proven by those who captured the republics of the USSR, plundered them, killed, robbed the peoples, staged the genocide of peoples on the territory of the USSR they captured in more than 20 million people, only in Russia and Ukraine the excess mortality after 1991 amounted to more than 18 million people, and ALL who proved, that they don’t care about these victims, grandfather Stalin did not do enough.
And it is these criminals who squeal that they, and like them, are “innocently repressed.”

[ccsr]

Quote: DimerVladimer

So family memory is good - the remaining old people remember well.

In my family memory there remain my deceased grandfather and my deceased uncle in the Second World War and my father, a front-line soldier, who died in the nineties, and who never reviled Stalin.

Quote: DimerVladimer

And it wasn’t that long ago - as the KGB freelance informers in the crews of the flight detachment also said, they wouldn’t have shot you for telling an anecdote about Brezhnev, but they would have taken you to task

In fact, if you really like to fantasize, then believe me, the development of active officers by KGB officers was prohibited. If someone, on his own initiative, turned to the special officer, then they were quickly identified, and he was usually shunned - so there is no need to worry too much about anecdotes.
This is how it sometimes happened:

......One day, Jura-Buick, in a tipsy state, was returning to his home at a late hour, and caught a taxi on the roadway to quickly get to bed. Some kind of “bombila,” as it seemed to him, responded to his outstretched hand, and Yura, naming the place where he should go with the words “I won’t offend you, boss,” plopped down on the front seat, not noticing the man sitting behind him. After the car started moving, he was surprised to hear the voice of this man, who asked the driver in English where to take Yura, who had sat down, and what he needed. The driver spoke in English without any accent with his passenger, which shocked Yura so fundamentally that he, having sobered up slightly, realized that he was traveling in an American diplomatic car with two embassy employees, and without understanding for what purpose he was being taken. Knowing Order 010 and realizing that things were taking a sharp turn, Yura, at one of the intersections, when the car slowed down, jumped out almost on the move, and quickly disappeared from sight. He urgently began to hail a real taxi, as he realized that this incident must be immediately reported to Lubyanka, apparently realizing that such a car would probably be accompanied by outdoor surveillance. And he did it, arriving in the middle of the night at the KGB reception room and telling the officer on duty there about the incident. This decision puzzles me to this day, and this gives me reason to suspect that Yura was one of the “two-year students” who remained to serve in the army, because any career officer from the first days of cadets is hammered into his head that in any difficult situation, first of all, he must report to your commander, and only then act as he decides or prompts. This is the ethics of officer relationships, and even when you’re drunk, you can’t forget about it - that’s what we’ve always been taught. .....

Полный текст
http://zapravdu.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2561&p=129471&hilit=юра+бьюик#p129471

[Svyatoslav Khorobry]

First: you cannot trust the Zionist Levada Center - it publishes deliberate lies that are not beneficial to the Russian regime... For almost 40 years, Stalin worked in various Jewish governments - he suited them then. As soon as during the war years the leader began to appoint RUSSIAN people to all the main leading party and military posts in the state, they immediately poisoned him and today continue to actively throw mud at him... So they publicly hate Ivan the Terrible - he expelled them from the then Russia - today they also throw mud at him, make false historical films about him... But, it doesn’t work: the deep Russian folk memory at the genetic level respects both historical figures.

[Brigadier]

"Stalin's approval level broke the historical record"

Because Stalin is not Putin. Putin to Stalin is like walking to Saturn!

Stalin did good for the entire people, but Putin does good only for his oligarchs!
Catch the difference?

Who thinks that I am wrong, I will give only 2 arguments to substantiate my words
(although there are MUCH MORE!):
1. Putin personally approved the pension robbery of our people (and Stalin shortened the retirement period for the people!)
2. Putin refused to introduce a progressive tax on his rich friends - the oligarchs, although this is exactly what is being done all over the world, for with the exception of Russia alone (and Stalin put the rich scum who parasitized on the people against the wall!)

And after this, Putin still wonders why his people don’t love him like Stalin?
The answer is simple: our people understand perfectly well who Putin is !
What kind of person would love a ruler who wants that person to live as poorly as possible? That's the whole answer...

Nothing... history goes in a spiral... we will wait for its new turn and all the rich scum will know the full power of the people's "love" when the time comes for "H"...

We'll wait...