Submarine "Husky" surpass existing submarines in all essential parameters

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Taking into account the factor of rapid development of modern (prospective) attack weapon systems in Russia, one can speak of the possibility of creating principled new complexes capable of being carriers of several of them at once. First of all, this is about cruise missiles, including hypersonic missiles of various purposes: Caliber and Zircon missiles.

Submarine "Husky" surpass existing submarines in all essential parameters




After 2020, they promise to demonstrate in one form or another a variant of the Russian nuclear submarine of a new generation with a low noise level of the Husky project being developed by Malachite Design Bureau. Earlier it was reported that the "Huskies" will receive several versions of "Caliber", including the anti-submarine version. In addition, the promising Russian submarine will be equipped with impact weapons, including those required for causing irreparable damage to enemy aircraft carriers (including AUG), universal amphibious ships, missile cruisers, as well as naval bases and coastal logistics facilities.

Such shock armament becomes hypersonic "Zircon" with the ability to reach speeds up to 8 M (speeds of sound). With such weapons and the declared parameters for speed and stealth (that is, for all the main parameters), the Huskies will surpass all existing submarines.

If the promising nuclear submarines of the Husky project are also oriented as carriers of the Poseidon strategic submarines, the project turns into a real underwater military base - low noise, wide-armed.

Expert comment on the possibility of equipping the Husky with all specified types of weapons:

In fact, you need to consider the displacement of submarines of this promising project. As far as is known from open sources, it will be somewhat less than, for example, in Ash. If we talk about the possibility of turning the Husky into an underwater military base with different types of weapons and combat missions, then this, of course, is possible, but there are a number of “buts”. Comparing with the nuclear submarine "Belgorod", which exactly will receive "Poseidons", the stated displacement of the "Huskies" is still lower. Therefore, the option of "hanging" all that appeared or will appear in recent years, in the coming years, from the "defense" to the new submarine does not look appropriate. Using low noise “Huskies” to approach the same carrier-based strike groups with the possibility of striking, for example, hypersonic “Zircon” is one thing, and trying to solve many problems at once, including the use of Poseidon, is quite another. The main thing is not to overestimate the capabilities of the carrier, but to clearly define the objectives of the submarine of this project. The effectiveness of the submarine is not always related to how many different weapons it carries on its board. But there is no doubt about the final superiority of “Husky” over existing projects.
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  1. +17
    April 7 2019 08: 46
    Submarine "Husky" surpass existing submarines in all essential parameters
    It would be worse if the new boat turned out to be worse than its predecessors.
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    2. +4
      April 7 2019 08: 59
      If the Husky project is embodied in metal, then he will surely have extra Poseidons, zircons and calibers, including anti-submarines, are quite enough. The main thing is that admirals in TK do not insist on Poseidons, Clubs ..... otherwise we will never get this death star, but the money will be cut!
      1. +21
        April 7 2019 11: 46
        That's all for now - boltology. Husky doesn’t exist as a well-developed project. Thp is just fortune-telling on coffee grounds. The only thing that is known is that ours want to unify some of the nodes for husky and strategists. The Poseidons of the Husky will definitely not be wearing. That's bullshit. Separate uterine ships are being built for them. Belgorod and Khabarovsk are submarines that can carry any configuration of drones and mini boats. That is - at least Poseidons, at least reconnaissance drones, at least research. Husky is clearly not to do with it. request
        1. +1
          April 7 2019 12: 11
          Quote: g1v2
          Husky is clearly not to do with it.

          I agree, but why did they write to me?
        2. 0
          April 7 2019 22: 34
          but all opponents have already been defeated with the help of the Husky :) "But there is no doubt about the final superiority of the Husky over the existing projects."
      2. 0
        April 8 2019 01: 07
        Poseidons can be a duck, like they showed one thing, but in reality it turned out to be 29 and with 37 more applications. Our FSB and SVR piss in the ears of everyone and everyone knows how no worse than the Tanov colleagues.
    3. +36
      April 7 2019 09: 11
      How did they get such articles ... Outperform, fly, build, create. When there are already articles, they have surpassed, flew, built, created. Why do we have so many breakfast feeds?
      1. -14
        April 7 2019 09: 26
        Quote: Vol4ara
        When there are already articles, they have surpassed, flew, built, created.

        Hummingbirds don't fly? "Daggers" were not put into service?
        you whiner. you will not please these ...
        everything at once only in FAIRY TALES happens
        1. +24
          April 7 2019 09: 41
          Quote: widower
          Quote: Vol4ara
          When there are already articles, they have surpassed, flew, built, created.

          Hummingbirds don't fly? "Daggers" were not put into service?
          you whiner. you will not please these ...
          everything at once only in FAIRY TALES happens

          VNEU created? And how many arguments was there, we will build, but our boats will be unique, built? Su 57 in the troops, armata in the troops, should have already been, because they wrote so much about this, and gas turbine installations - spit and grind, we rivet in hundreds, this Ukraine surrendered to us, right? ... An analogue of a helfair for a night hunter was made so that he do not hang for minutes leading the target, read so that he does not be a suicide bomber? Conversations on a bag, and affairs on a palm. Just flutter your tongue. We are the largest country in the world, we have everything, we do not need oil, or rare isotopes or metals, we must be leaders, the first in the world with the highest standard of living for the population. And if "hummingbirds", then "daggers"
          1. -10
            April 7 2019 09: 50
            Quote: Vol4ara
            Conversations on the bag, and affairs on the palm. T

            this is your talk. but in real life people WORK and CREATE !!!!!
            the fenders did not even come close to hypersound !!!!!!! and we have it !!!!!!
            whine on. you are always wrong. at least bun roll honey still tell me sugar
            1. +4
              April 7 2019 10: 56
              Quote: widower
              widower

              Out of you there is so much positive siphon - probably you could work instead of a bulb in the stairwell.
              1. 0
                April 7 2019 19: 16
                Quote: mark1
                probably in the entrance instead of a light bulb they could work.

                I’m not even taken as a watchman. whining you get the whole team
                1. -4
                  April 7 2019 19: 48
                  Yes, I wouldn’t go to your team of optimistic watchmen, you’ll somehow be better off without me.
                  1. -2
                    April 7 2019 19: 52
                    Quote: mark1
                    you somehow somehow radiate without me.

                    and you whine further the fifth column. Gorbachev you flagship
                    1. -4
                      April 7 2019 19: 57
                      Quote: widower
                      and you whine further the fifth column

                      I didn’t count the columns, but yours which is to Beijing (back to front)
                      1. -4
                        April 7 2019 20: 59
                        well, no more. and Russia prevails with weapons !!!!!
                        when you all whiners dump in urkainu
                      2. 0
                        April 7 2019 22: 37
                        The feeling of positiveness excites you slightly, but take a closer look in the mirror, you see ... (probably a wise man)
          2. +1
            April 7 2019 09: 53
            Quote: Vol4ara
            we must be leaders, the first in the world with the highest standard of living.

            Well, it's you, and we. What you say about the United States is clear, but We are not the United States and we have our own policy, doctrine and outlook on life. We are not you, we are our own civilization, and it is not necessary that we should be aligned. We ourselves as we want - so be it.
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            2. +3
              April 7 2019 12: 17
              Quote: Irokez
              we are our own civilization

              with the control of completely incompetent people, the main thing is to get into operation and pull the sock!
              Quote: Irokez
              We ourselves as we want - so be it.

              we want to live poorly - it will be so, we want only ordinary people to be robbed - it will be so, we want that there would be no machine tool building, medicine and education - it will be so! ..... for this everything is there !! (tsar and bad boyars) .... can I get in your line? ... step minted like a mausoleum !!
              1. 0
                April 7 2019 12: 48
                So go to the presidency "YOU WILL BE OUR KING". And those who are in the common herd are marching in formation, but if you realized that you do not want to be an extra in the common herd, then you are already different and are a different civilization, different from the rest.
                As you put yourself so they will treat you.
                1. +4
                  April 7 2019 12: 55
                  Quote: Irokez
                  As you put yourself so they will treat you.

                  it is not correct not "THIS will be with you ...", but where they will communicate with you ..... this may be the cabinet of the minister (mayor ....), or maybe a pre-trial detention center ...
                  1. -3
                    April 7 2019 12: 56
                    Think low, take above the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or the United Nations, or even the Global Empire.
          3. +2
            April 7 2019 10: 08
            Yes, they should not - everything is in trials, the Su 57 military needs a new engine.
          4. -3
            April 7 2019 13: 31
            We will be the best and with the highest standard of living in the world. But only after the collapse of the United States. That is, we will begin to grow at a cosmic pace only after the departure of Trump
            1. +3
              April 7 2019 14: 18
              "[quote = Simferopol] We will be the best and with the highest standard of living in the world. But only after the collapse of the United States. [/ quote]"

              Following your logic, nothing shines for us while the States exist on our planet? And when they (states) are bent, do not tell me for an hour?

              "That is, we will start growing at a cosmic pace only after Trump leaves [/ quote]"

              And if another Trump comes, even more tramp, and then what? Drain - smoke bamboo?
              1. -6
                April 7 2019 18: 02
                Not later than the end of 2020. Trump is the last president of the United States
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          5. +4
            April 7 2019 13: 50
            Quote: Vol4ara
            VNEU created?

            Created! It is being tested at a marine stand. After that, there will probably be "Sarov". And from 2020 bookmark Kalina. The military swore this to me!
            So they said: "I swear by my mother! You will not see the will for a century!" bully
          6. +2
            April 7 2019 14: 11
            Quote: Vol4ara
            we do not need oil or rare isotopes or metals

            And pensions to pensioners, salaries to doctors and teachers, librarians, cultural workers ... where are we going to take?
            And what did you say about "rare isotopes" ... This is about the "Ogganesson" and others discovered at the LHC "Muscovy" and "Kurchatov"? No.
          7. +2
            April 7 2019 14: 22
            Why whine? Forward to the embrasure. Have you ever tried to do any of the above? Or contribute somehow to quickly create or implement? Sami is not better than those you describe
            Quote: Vol4ara
            Conversations on the bag, and affairs on the palm. Only wagging his tongue.
          8. +2
            April 7 2019 23: 50
            You will notice that what our opponents are doing, they are doing the whole world, and we are doing it alone, and besides, everywhere we stick with wheels in our wheels. And the lag after the 90s was a bit, but they made up for it despite spiteful critics. And people like you have the goal of faulting with and without. Shame on my friend, shame on you!
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          1. +2
            April 7 2019 10: 28
            Quote: 79807420129
            They have instructions

            Good document. I will poke his nose into the local trolls.
            1. +3
              April 7 2019 10: 43
              comprehensive !!! lol hi
            2. +1
              April 7 2019 11: 04
              [quote = Consultant] [quote = 79807420129] They have an instruction [/ quote]
              Good document. I will poke his nose into the local trolls. [/ Qu
              As I understand it, this is a new training manual from those in power, otherwise they began to give up their positions. It's normal to promise everything in the future tense. In fact, there are no really new developments, everything is based on the USSR. And who should make them? The old school is gone, but the new one is not at all. I'm wondering what a submarine with 6-8 subsonic "Calibers" can do with the AUG of a potential enemy? To die heroically?
              1. -3
                April 7 2019 11: 12
                Quote: lis-ik
                As I understand it, this is a new training manual from those in power

                You? No, you have an old one, nothing happened, do not worry.

                Quote: lis-ik
                It's okay to promise everything in the future tense

                Personally, no one promises anything, do not worry, I repeat. All that is needed will happen without you.

                Quote: lis-ik
                I'm wondering what a submarine with 6-8 subsonic "Calibers" can do with the AUG of a potential enemy?

                Could you come up with a dumber example? It’s strange. Your training manual is bad.
                1. +1
                  April 7 2019 11: 20
                  Quote: Consultant
                  Could you come up with a dumber example? It’s strange. Your training manual is bad.

                  So this is a real example with boats 636 of the project (by the way of the Soviet backlog), the quietest today, which really have a chance to get closer to the distance of the strike, and those that could crush with a mass strike are written off and disposed of.
                  1. -5
                    April 7 2019 11: 24
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    this is a real example with project 636 boats ...

                    ... not with "boats", but with "boat". One boat, against the same AUG.

                    Reminded of a paste from a horse and grouse for some reason.

                    An example, as a result ... strange, to put it mildly.

                    Quote: lis-ik
                    and those that could crush with a massive blow are written off and disposed of

                    I don’t understand what you mean.

                    But the fact that wrecking is unequivocal. Well, or you don’t understand something, this also happens wink
                    1. +4
                      April 7 2019 14: 40
                      Quote: Consultant
                      One boat, against the same AUG.
                      "Well, damn it, you give!" (with)
                      And why were anti-aircraft diplins on the Federation Council and Pacific Fleet created, do not tell me? feel
                      In-2-x, these boats BMZ, and in this zone AUGI will not enter without a mobile zone PLO. This is where the fun begins !!! Aviation, RV and BRAV just aside will not be, will take part in the glory! fellow
                      And then, it's time to figure out for yourself: the defeat of the AUG is a fleet operation, not a single ... single submarine, even as quiet as the 636.3 project. Yes
                      1. -1
                        April 7 2019 14: 44
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        it's time to understand for yourself: the defeat of the AUG is a fleet operation, and not a high ... single

                        Yes, I somehow, like, I guess about it ... but I answered (attention !!) to someone and this:

                        Quote: lis-ik
                        I'm wondering what can a submarine with 6-8 subsonic "Calibers" do with the AUG of a potential enemy?

                        Here is him, the author, and admonish, since there is a desire)))
                  2. +6
                    April 7 2019 14: 31
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    an example of the 636 boats of the project (by the way, the Soviet backlog), the quietest today,

                    The information is out of date. 677 is two times quieter than our 636.3. ("improved Kilo", according to NATO nomenclature). Yes
              2. +5
                April 7 2019 12: 50
                Quote: lis-ik
                I'm wondering what a submarine with 6-8 subsonic "Calibers" can do with the AUG of a potential enemy? To die heroically?


                Good afternoon, dear lis-ik hi You really gave an incorrect example. There are gauges, both anti-ship, and for application to stationary ground targets.
                "anti-ship missiles missiles 3M-54E, 3M-54E1,
                high-precision cruise missiles to destroy ground targets 3M-14E,
                anti-submarine missiles 91RET2 ("Caliber-NKE") and 91RE1 ("Caliber-PLE") "

                And I dare to assure you that the speed of anti-ship missiles is much higher.
                That is, if you decide to attack the whole AUG with Varshavyanka ... although orders are not discussed.
              3. +5
                April 7 2019 14: 25
                Quote: lis-ik
                I'm wondering what a submarine with 6-8 subsonic "Calibers" can do with the AUG of a potential enemy?

                It all depends on the position of the volley. If Arly is not on the median of the volley, then perhaps with 20 km they will not be intercepted: V = 3М! Here it is time to thresh with Falans, there is no time left for ZUR. And then - where will get! so lucky!
                AHA
            3. 0
              April 7 2019 13: 15
              Quote: Consultant
              Good document.

              I can compose the same. Only backwards.
          2. +8
            April 7 2019 10: 41
            You forgot to give instructions on permission to collect dead wood and the fake law.
            1. +2
              April 7 2019 11: 00
              By the way. the first precedent about the insult already exists in the Yaroslavl region ...
              1. 0
                April 7 2019 11: 09
                Quote: sabakina
                By the way. the first precedent about the insult already exists in the Yaroslavl region ...

                Glory to who and when? belay
                1. +1
                  April 7 2019 11: 14
                  Vlad, the media of the Yaroslavl region wrote something, the GP got up to speed. Sorry. too lazy to look, but infa passed.
                  1. 0
                    April 7 2019 11: 16
                    Quote: sabakina
                    Vlad, the media of the Yaroslavl region wrote something, the GP got up to speed. Sorry. too lazy to look, but infa passed.

                    Yes, hell knows. everything seems to be calm with us. I’ll rush who is fighting with whom there. laughing hi
                    1. +1
                      April 7 2019 11: 19
                      I am writing as a keepsake. GP did not like voicing in the media graffiti on Putin. All that I remember.
          3. +3
            April 7 2019 10: 43
            Quote: 79807420129
            They have instructions

            Super. Straight to the point.
            I want to add. The politics and tactics in the anti-Russian media are as follows:
            - justify and support their own (even if it sucks)
            - never talk about achievements in Russia (even if they are global)
            - keep silent their punctures and failures (even if they poke obvious facts in their faces)
            - Punctures and failures, and even sabotage in Russia, to exaggerate and bring (even if it is a fly compared to an elephant).
            Learn to be an agitator or recognize an agitator. )))
            1. 0
              April 7 2019 11: 06
              Quote: Irokez
              - never talk about achievements in Russia (even if they are global

              Give an example of the global achievement of the Russian Federation under the current government. Crimea is not considered, they clearly recognized under pressure from the masses.
              1. +1
                April 7 2019 11: 19
                No need to introduce restrictions such as Russia, the USSR and again Russia. All this is one and the same and at all times the achievements of Russia (the USSR) have always been belittled or kept silent in the West, or for their announcement.
                At the moment, there is a global war both locally in some countries and the economic and ideological one, and here all means are thrown into battle. Read the training manual on this site.
                And you with your posts like "show achievements" well, just tell everyone that you are blind or do not want to see and you are looking from the wrong side.
                Criticism is good when all areas are covered and a general analysis is made, and if you approach it on only one side, it is not criticism, but humiliation and propaganda of the worthlessness of the state and the people who inhabited it (read the training manual).
                1. +10
                  April 7 2019 11: 26
                  Quote: Irokez
                  And you with your posts like "show achievements" well, just tell everyone that you are blind or do not want to see, and you are looking from the wrong side

                  Yes, there are achievements. Sold for 3,5 trillion dollars. energy resources, reduced the share of industry in GDP (about 20%), compared with the EBN period. With this money, it would be possible to create the entire economy and production of the Russian Federation from scratch. Where are they? Need to urgently raise taxes and everything else to get out of the crisis? Does it exist in general, except in the head and wishlist of "our" government?
                  1. -2
                    April 7 2019 11: 31
                    Quote: lis-ik
                    With this money, it would be possible to create the entire economy and production of the Russian Federation from scratch

                    Again the painfully beaten words: - "This money could have been." Yes, you can even piss a fighter and a comrade into a boot for a joke or revenge.
                    It is not for me and not for you to judge where to invest and spend money at a given time because we are not aware of the higher plans of the government and the president and why there and not in another place.
                    It is a pity that you are not the president, I would surely do the same.
                    1. +4
                      April 7 2019 11: 36
                      Quote: Irokez
                      It’s a pity that you are not the president, I’m sure would do the same

                      Maybe under the pressure of circumstances and environment, I would have done the same thing, I do not argue, but then to hell then be president?
                      1. -2
                        April 7 2019 11: 39
                        Quote: lis-ik
                        Maybe under the pressure of circumstances and environment, I would have done the same thing, I do not argue, but then to hell then be president?

                        You see, it seems, and you understand the current moment, but you are still projecting pessimism, and this is already a loss. Better if positive optimism - at least there is a chance not to lose.
                        That is, you propose that the president choose from the United States instead of his own and national?
                    2. +2
                      April 7 2019 11: 44
                      Quote: Irokez
                      I’m not aware of the higher plans of the government and the president and why there, and not to another place.

                      Higher plans, as I understand it, is it an airbag for oneself and the environment in the west? By the way, where are the money withdrawn from US securities directed, are you by any chance out of tune? And then it’s exciting, like something, what if they don’t have enough, or even an hour will be arrested yet?
                      1. 0
                        April 7 2019 11: 50
                        Quote: lis-ik
                        By the way, where are the money withdrawn and US securities directed, are you by any chance out of tune?

                        Not yet.
                        Quote: lis-ik
                        suddenly they don’t have enough

                        You don’t look at others, take care of yourself and your life will improve. It’s how it turns out when a person gives himself and his thoughts to others, then others go uphill, and the person himself goes out, giving his energy and attention to others. Look at yourself, turn to face yourself and life can go uphill. Sometimes you need to love yourself, but of course without fanaticism.
                      2. 0
                        April 7 2019 12: 00
                        Quote: Irokez

                        Not yet.

                        I think about this we will learn from the following "saviors" of the fatherland.
                        As for myself, I try, if only they would not put sticks in the wheels, and so I will manage without help.
                      3. +2
                        April 7 2019 12: 06
                        Quote: lis-ik
                        As for myself, I try, if only they would not put sticks in the wheels, and so I will manage without help.

                        Well, you see how good it is when everything is fine on the ground and everyone is standing on their feet. There is support and Russia will rise. Keep it up, and the sticks will unfortunately be either from neighbors or local managers unconscious. Hold on.
                      4. -1
                        April 7 2019 12: 07
                        Quote: Irokez
                        Well, you see how good it is when everything is fine on the ground and everyone is standing on their feet. There is support and Russia will rise.

                        Contrary to all, as this matter of principle has already written.
                      5. +1
                        April 7 2019 12: 09
                        Quote: lis-ik
                        Quote: Irokez
                        Well, you see how good it is when everything is fine on the ground and everyone is standing on their feet. There is support and Russia will rise.

                        Contrary to all, as this matter of principle has already written.

                        Positive and correct.
          4. +1
            April 7 2019 12: 22
            That’s the essence of the Zampolita branches of the VO.
            good
        3. +6
          April 7 2019 10: 46
          Quote: widower
          you whiner. you will not please these ...

          You are our merry fellow, cheerful. Show your finger - you will laugh until 2024. And hummingbirds fly, and "Calibers" (is there a typo in the manual?) ... Here on the site there are people who with sweat and blood strengthened the defense of the USSR, and they got used to having - to what is, and not:
          After 2020, they promise in one form or another to demonstrate a version of a new generation Russian nuclear submarine with a low noise level of the Husky project, developed by the Malachite Design Bureau.

          And we don't need to please. Our generation despised sycophants and hypocrites. And a man was judged by his deeds. The most shameful nickname is "yap". So, we are fed up with this chatter, these projects. We are very happy when perfect weapons are born in natural form. But!!! For almost twenty years, I would like to have time to see the active implementation of state plans and projects. And for your information, we do not interfere with this, we do not even go out and do not demand that military pensions be brought in line with the law. Well, don't pass off a folded candy wrapper as a real candy ... Otherwise, how else to please you? The only way:
          1. +2
            April 7 2019 11: 28
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: widower
            you whiner. you will not please these ...

            You are our merry fellow, cheerful. Show your finger - you will laugh until 2024. And hummingbirds fly, and "Calibers" (is there a typo in the manual?) ... Here on the site there are people who with sweat and blood strengthened the defense of the USSR, and they got used to having - to what is, and not:
            After 2020, they promise in one form or another to demonstrate a version of a new generation Russian nuclear submarine with a low noise level of the Husky project, developed by the Malachite Design Bureau.

            And we don't need to please. Our generation despised sycophants and hypocrites. And a man was judged by his deeds. The most shameful nickname is "yap". So, we are fed up with this chatter, these projects. We are very happy when perfect weapons are born in natural form. But!!! For almost twenty years, I would like to have time to see the active implementation of state plans and projects. And for your information, we do not interfere with this, we do not even go out and do not demand that military pensions be brought in line with the law. Well, don't pass off a folded candy wrapper as a real candy ... Otherwise, how else to please you? The only way:

            Better not say right to the point. A generation of Coca-Cola, the main thing that will be said according to the zooboe, and not what is done in the metal
          2. -2
            April 7 2019 13: 00
            You better go your garden before the summer, prepare for planting - beholders of active embodiment, with two logs in each eye, for 20 years.
        4. -2
          April 7 2019 13: 57
          And we have a fabulous country! Only fairy tales and we hear ... will be in .... XXXX year ... there are no taxes ... superfood ...., and as a result, the 72nd, MiG-29, Mi-24, etc. only turned and renamed. (the cars are not bad, but they have already chosen their own) But there are very few really new and advanced ones, in single copies. (at best). And it is necessary to introduce and build new models (and moreover, do not make one instance for decades).
      2. +5
        April 7 2019 09: 58
        Quote: Vol4ara
        When there are already articles, they have surpassed, flew, built, created.

        And there are enough such articles. Then people like you start whining "prove it, propaganda, bragging"
        For now, to your reflection- At Sevmash Eight Project 955 Borey / 955A Borei-A Strategic Missile Submarines (SSBN) and seven Project 855 Yasen multipurpose nuclear submarines with cruise missiles have already been built or in the process / 885M "Ash-M".
        1. +1
          April 7 2019 10: 42
          Quote: Siberia 75
          Quote: Vol4ara
          When there are already articles, they have surpassed, flew, built, created.

          And there are enough such articles. Then people like you start whining "prove it, propaganda, bragging"
          For now, to your reflection- At Sevmash Eight Project 955 Borey / 955A Borei-A Strategic Missile Submarines (SSBN) and seven Project 855 Yasen multipurpose nuclear submarines with cruise missiles have already been built or in the process / 885M "Ash-M".

          Very cool, why not write about it, that they built, and will not build, or is now a future time site
        2. 0
          April 7 2019 12: 55
          Quote: Siberia 75
          For now, to your consideration- At Sevmash

          You'd better not touch Sevmash. Yeltsin was afraid to touch him, and Putin is afraid. It can be said about Sevmash that many of the Soviet regimes with the Soviet social system are still preserved there. Where else do engineering plants have their swimming pools with stadiums? There are no such people in St. Petersburg. And before they were. Gazpromovsky appeared (it was not in Soviet times). Rogozin will come to Sevmash, and .... (end) the country.
      3. +2
        April 7 2019 19: 15
        The same situation with space: to Mars soon, to the moon even faster, but in orbit scrap metal flies.
    4. AUL
      +9
      April 7 2019 09: 16
      I wonder if I will live up to the moment when I read on VO not "surpassed", but "surpassed", not "expected to be adopted", but "adopted", not "planned", but "implemented" ... I would love to!
      1. -1
        April 7 2019 10: 01
        Quote from AUL
        I wonder if I will live up to the moment when I read on VO not "surpassed", but "surpassed", not "expected to be adopted", but "adopted", not "planned", but "implemented" ... I would love to!

        Yes, you are already living in this moment. What is not needed for general use You do not know and do not recognize as a simple layman, but it is, but what you hear is what is allowed to disclose and discuss, although not the fact that it will ever be at all ... Like: - "You see a gopher in the field, no, but he is." So sleep well. You are already at this time where the brains are powdered with everything, but what already is or will be in reality is especially little known.
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          1. 0
            April 7 2019 11: 06
            Quote: ROSS 42
            NO SUBJECT - NO TALK

            If you are talking about secret developments, then yes I agree, but this is when the media is silent about it at all. And if something has already been lit up, then there is no point in hiding it and it is necessary to fully unwind (or powder the brains) so that the enemy is afraid.
            I also don’t like any talk (I’ve probably gotten from foreigners), but if such a thing went, let it be.
            Do not worry, stock up with firearms - it will suddenly come in handy, and there the liberals will create the law on their legalization and carrying anywhere.
            1. -1
              April 7 2019 13: 12
              Quote: Irokez
              If you are talking about secret developments, then yes I agree, but this is when the media is silent about it at all. And if something has already been lit up, then there is no point in hiding it and it is necessary to fully unwind (or powder the brains) so that the enemy is afraid.

              Well, you are a dreamer! You only do not make of the enemies of dreamers. However, since you have suffered, it is unlikely that my advice will instruct you.
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        2. +1
          April 7 2019 11: 09
          You know, when, for 25 years, the United States and its hedgehog led Ukraine to the last Maidan in order to turn it into a buffer anti-Russian state, with the transformation of Crimea into a NATO base - all these years Russia has not done anything to prevent this. She regularly paid millions of dollars for the Black Sea Fleet base to Ukraine, provided cheap gas, and lastly gave 3 a billion bucks to the junta in Kiev. The question is - then, too, they showed and told us only what is needed, and not what is? But in reality, heroically undercover and secretive for the layman fought for Ukraine and the Russian people there? That there were no murders in the Donbass and burning alive in Odessa, etc.? Did you do it?
          1. +1
            April 7 2019 12: 01
            All correctly noticed. +
    5. -1
      April 7 2019 09: 59
      Husky is in my Laika, only from Alaska. Can we rename? And so the thing is necessary. The submarine lives for 30 years. We need them up to 50. Not counting diesels. 1,5 units per year, how much is pull? But there is no choice, maybe at least 30 nuclear submarines of all types will be.
    6. 0
      April 7 2019 11: 31
      Quote: svp67
      It would be worse if the new boat turned out to be worse than its predecessors.

      =======
      Sergei! I will tell you more - it would be UNDERSTANDING AT ALL !!! drinks
  2. +13
    April 7 2019 08: 56
    Do you think you can already roll or still wait when done?
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    2. +6
      April 7 2019 09: 10
      I think it is necessary in advance, for success! drinks Give me 8 M!
      1. 0
        April 7 2019 11: 03
        Quote: Fedorov
        I think it is necessary in advance, for success! drinks Give me 8 M!

        I’m afraid the supreme liver doesn’t understand this ... feel
    3. 0
      April 7 2019 09: 10
      Not early, what do you think?) hi
    4. 0
      April 7 2019 11: 03
      Quote: Benk
      can already roll

      It’s necessary, otherwise vodka will turn sour.
  3. -2
    April 7 2019 08: 58
    Good start. Boats are more automated, fewer people, higher stealth, and weapons are serious
  4. +14
    April 7 2019 08: 58
    On the one hand, focusing on "unparalleled" future projects is not so bad.

    On the other hand, the other side can gain an overwhelming strategic advantage for a short period of time and make a move when your pants are down ("unparalleled" projects of the future - in the form of sections on construction).

    Just note about ensuring the deployment of fleet forces now:
    1 Severodvinsk
    1 Kuzbass (the only ICAPL for the entire Pacific Fleet)
    Panther + Tiger + Cheetah - a living troika in the North.
    Conditional Karp and Kostroma 945 project - for which it is not clear what.
    2 Pikes 671 - but it is already so.

    The Yankees - 32 Moose, 3 Sivulf, 17 Virginia and 18 (Delaware) are about to enter the team soon.

    In the future - let's say for + 6 years:
    Pacific Fleet will receive Bratsk (Hindus will receive Samara), Northern Fleet will be Boar, Leopard, Wolf (probably someone will run away to Pacific Fleet, because there is a full priest).
    Tambov will be repaired.
    Karp and Kostroma will be repaired.
    They will hand over 4 registered 885М - Kazan-Arkhangelsk.

    Total - 5x885 + 8 Pike-B + 3 Pike + 2x945. But this is ideal - when all the list boats will be in operation, but this is not so. For - from the current composition, part of the boats will rattle in average repair and extension of terms (for example, 1 Pike + someone from the current Panther / Tiger peppercorns).

    Yankees - 27 Virginia (actually more - for ~ 4 of the year construction from cutting, Now they are cutting metal on an 27 boat, even the news was on Topvar), near 25 Elk (they will be written off soon), 3 Sivulf.
    1. -7
      April 7 2019 10: 10
      You count all the ships and submarines that are on duty and under repair.
      1. +3
        April 7 2019 10: 25
        Quote: Vadim237
        You count everything

        so all apl and counted))
        1. 0
          April 7 2019 13: 34
          9 - 949, 4 - 945A, 2 - 671RTM, 11 - 971, 2 - 885, 4 - 955, 7 - 667BDRM, 3 - 667BDR, 1 - 941, 14 - 877, 6 - 663.6 1 - 677. A total of 64 underwater boats are everything: being repaired, undergoing sea trials, in reserve, special purpose, and on combat duty.
          1. 0
            April 7 2019 15: 31
            Quote: Vadim237
            A total of 64 submarines

            feel - 667BDRM, - 667BDR, - 941 -955, will these same moose and virginia be chased? belay
            and the Warsaw women are all in the Black Sea Fleet ... how will they help the strategist or Belgorod exit to the Northern Fleet ?? belay
            and all of the above you divide by 2 - this is something else a little and just alive !!!
            1. -5
              April 7 2019 16: 10
              They will be driven by other devices - like this
              only large dimensions, in combat equipment.
              1. +1
                April 7 2019 16: 12
                Quote: Vadim237

                They will be driven by other devices - like this

                belay feel are you serious right now
                1. -2
                  April 7 2019 17: 27
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  are you serious right now

                  The maximum speed of this unit is the 2,9 node. Range within 30 miles. Only logs are capable of driving such devices. Here is how it can be serious?
                  In the meantime, this site has become buggy for me last week. What is the reason, I won’t guess. Let the site administration do this.
                2. -2
                  April 7 2019 19: 51
                  Seriously OKB Rubin took up -
                  1. +1
                    April 8 2019 00: 44
                    Seriously? On Rubin a couple of years ago, Lev Sidorenko was the General Designer. In 2000 and 2002 (being then an official of the RF Ministry of Defense) he voiced a cross on the proposal of shock drones. Parry!
                    And this your little picture - ....!
      2. +6
        April 7 2019 10: 42
        Well, as I thought, for now - I did not take into account those boats that are dead (Kashalot and Magadan) that are under repair in Bratsk and Samara (at 70% it goes to Indians), as well as 3 boats - that are undergoing repair in the north ( Boar / Leo / Wolf) + Tambov.

        That's about Sperm Whale - what's the point of talking about him?

        Here Magadan sucks and awaits a tender for disposal.


        For 6 + years, I counted all the boats in 100% state - that is, 8 ShchukB + 3 ShchukiRTMK + 2 Condor. He also suggested that 4 are actively being built by 885М - will be put into operation by the 25 year. That is to the maximum.

        The Americans took only those boats that are already in construction - 27 Virginia. In fact, there will be 30 + - because on 2 boats the metal will begin to be cut before the end of this year, and the 4-4,5 cycle of the year from cutting.
        1. +1
          April 7 2019 12: 44
          Quote: donavi49
          That is to the maximum.

          Of course, he also meant Halibuts with Varshavyanki .... like to count them
    2. -1
      April 7 2019 11: 10
      Quote: donavi49
      On the one hand, focusing on "unparalleled" future projects is not so bad.
      Conditional Karp and Kostroma 945
      Karp and Kostroma will be repaired.
      Well, he ruined the whole mass ... By the way. it is necessary to ask the governor about the sponsorship of the nuclear submarine "Kostroma" ...
      1. +3
        April 7 2019 11: 28
        On naked 945 - while the latest news is backed up by photos:
        According to April 27 2017 of the year, web resource FlotProm, modernization of the lead titanium nuclear multipurpose submarine B-239 "Karp" of project 945 (code "Barracuda") of the Northern Fleet and was limited to unloading fuel from the ship in 2014. According to a FlotProm source in the military-industrial complex, the resumption of work is unlikely.

        "The modernization of the Karp is too expensive and time-consuming, the game is not worth the candle," the source said. "Today, the Ministry of Defense has much more urgent projects, the expediency of which is not questioned."

        Kostroma is similarly slow-moving, but not taken apart (because they did not manage to break through the money for disassembly).
        1. -1
          April 7 2019 11: 44
          I don’t understand, in case of a joke, if you “kick some somebody,” “Kostroma” will sink and emerge?
    3. +2
      April 7 2019 15: 14
      Quote: donavi49
      future projects are not so bad.

      You all thought it right ... But for some reason, the new diesel-electric submarines and NNLs did not take into account. And in vain. This is the Yankees are going to fight at our shores, and we are not at the Amsk! Therefore, the 500-mile zone is behind our diesel engines and (Gd will, NNL!), And they are less noisy than the Yankees unfolding in the RBD PLA. Well, so there is a reason and get even! Why not?
      Why sure? Just recently, there was an info that during the joint exercises, the Hindu 877E went unnoticed by the American nuclear-powered ship at the launch launch distance and made a conditional launch on it. Amer Hindu 877 not heard !!! So much for dizelyuhi!
      So, not all secret becomes clear ... bully
      1. +4
        April 7 2019 15: 29
        Well, not quite.

        Submarine tasks:
        - provide combat deployment of the fleet.
        - to ensure the exit of the strategic nuclear forces component to launch areas.
        - complicate the combat deployment of the enemy fleet + provide support to its fleet.
        - to hunt for the enemy underwater component of the strategic nuclear forces.

        Dizelyuhi will help with basic deployment and actions in the near sea zone.

        However:
        - they will not be able to properly cover the component of the strategic nuclear forces, which will run to the north in a run, because it is an emergency regime limited to hours running by a diesel engine. That is, to cover SSBNs going to the launch areas, it is necessary to involve the ICAPL.
        - they will not be able to properly support forces in the far sea zone.
        - they will not be able to hunt for enemy vehicles, or rather, only from a defensive model in the near sea zone.

        Plus - do not forget about the diesels of US vassals.

        Anticipating your argument about the radioactive ashes of the whole world. As part of the strategic nuclear forces there really is no need to leave their home base or the near sea zone. You can shoot straight from the place of permanent deployment. But then, why build ballistic missile submarines? If you take the price of the life cycle of which Borea, you can buy 60 + Yars on a mobile chassis and finance the entire life cycle. And the efficiency of launching even 1 to 1 from the Arkhangelsk-Murmansk region will not be any worse than with Gadzhievo. There will be more than 3 money winnings. However, only SSBNs can make a dagger volley, a volley along the least covered trajectory. But for this, SSBNs must be covered - their combat deployment in designated areas of the oceans is ensured.
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  6. +5
    April 7 2019 09: 03
    "Military unit 45707 is a military unit of the Navy of the USSR and Russia, formed in October 1978, in Leningrad.

    One of the most classified military installations in Russia. It is subordinate to the Main Directorate of Deep-Sea Research of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and is responsible for testing and operation of nuclear deep-water stations. According to unofficial data, the hydronauts are engaged in reconnaissance activities - listening to communication cables, installing motion sensors, and also collecting wreckage of ships, aircraft and satellites from the seabed "

    But they can only know about "Belgorod," Poseidon and other devices .. And we, so, potryndet, calluses on the fingers from Claudia to train and poke in the nose. I talked repeatedly with the submariners, there is practically no information about the part, although they know that it is.
  7. +6
    April 7 2019 09: 09
    With the pace of construction, as in the EU, now in 2050 we get the first Husky.
  8. +6
    April 7 2019 09: 16
    When will the authorities grow wiser? There is a Russian proverb: "Don't say gop until you jump over." Only we all realized that the underwater astrolabe is Poseidon, which is not in real life, but only in Putin's cartoons. Another enticement appeared in the form of a tired submarine of Putin, the Husky type. Do something in the hardware! Try it and then show it. Say: "We have such a technique!" And not eternal: "There will be ...." You will have nothing. You cannot and cannot. Kleptomaniacs.
    1. +11
      April 7 2019 09: 48
      So there is nothing to present especially. So we only hear the forecast for the future and drank the budget for all possible modernizations that are presented as breakthrough technologies. Further prototypes are no progress.
    2. 0
      April 7 2019 10: 08
      Quote: Antique
      You won’t have anything. You cannot and are not capable.

      Well, we may be far from you, but we have a lot of things both in our brains and in our plans. The only trouble is in their faith and the mass disease from the "Democracy" virus.
      You are holding onto the ocean there while you have money - soon everything will change. True, the truth I found out.
      1. +1
        April 7 2019 12: 03
        You won’t have anything.

        Well, why - "will not"? "Will be". Someone "will" have another "round" bank account, somewhere - in the Cayman Islands and a new villa, for example, in Madeira. wink And "Husky" .... "Husky" is, in fact, a breed of dog, such .... love
        1. -2
          April 7 2019 12: 08
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Husky "is, in fact, a breed of dog, such

          Bad troll. Fat request
        2. 0
          April 7 2019 12: 18
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          "Husky" is, in fact, a breed of dog, such

          But what !!!
      2. 0
        April 7 2019 18: 40
        Quote: Irokez
        Well, we may be far from you, but we have a lot of things both in our brains and in our plans. The only trouble is in their faith and the mass disease from the "Democracy" virus.
        You are holding onto the ocean there while you have money - soon everything will change. True, the truth I found out.

        Frankly, I don’t know how to answer. What kind of ocean, the virus of democracy, what is far away from me, in what sense? If by mileage, then I’m close by, if intellectually, I think that you are right. It’s far to me.
    3. 0
      April 9 2019 04: 27
      Come on, but with the general secretaries of the mock-ups and prototypes, there wasn’t any equipment at the parades, and the armament was continuous and close to only worked out equipment without subsequent refinement to TK.
  9. +5
    April 7 2019 09: 50
    Quote: Wall
    So there is nothing to present especially. So we only hear the forecast for the future and drank the budget for all possible modernizations that are presented as breakthrough technologies. Further prototypes are no progress.

    That's the whole point. There is a steady idea that the main thing in the engine is the steam from the whistle, and not the movement.
  10. kig
    +1
    April 7 2019 10: 08
    Something really seems that by the time we see her in the metal, all her new items will have time to become outdated. It seems that such is our modern shipbuilding and other reality.
  11. -4
    April 7 2019 10: 21
    How did they get such articles ... Outperform, fly, build, create. When there are already articles, they have surpassed, flew, built, created. Why do we have so many breakfast feeds?

    I wonder if I will live up to the moment when I read on VO not "surpassed", but "surpassed", not "expected to be adopted", but "adopted", not "planned", but "implemented" ... I would love to!

    When will the authorities grow wiser? There is a Russian proverb: "Don't say gop until you jump over." Only we all realized that the underwater astrolabe is Poseidon, which is not in real life, but only in Putin's cartoons. Another enticement appeared in the form of a tired submarine of Putin, the Husky type. Do something in the hardware! Try it and then show it. Say: "We have such a technique!" And not eternal: "There will be ...." You will have nothing. You cannot and cannot. Kleptomaniacs.

    As I understand it, a new training manual came up))
    This is a new trend now - watch how scribbling will be in topics))
    1. -5
      April 7 2019 10: 33
      Quote: lucul
      new training manual approached

      With old holes. It has already been repeatedly and in all possible variations.

      Boo-oo-oo-oo ... request
  12. +1
    April 7 2019 10: 22
    "Kuzyu" will be converted into "Husky".
    1. +2
      April 7 2019 11: 53
      Quote: mag nit
      "Kuzyu" will be converted into "Husky".

      Yeah. and Leopold’s cat in these rats .... Interestingly, rats will survive even in a nuclear war ...
      1. 0
        April 7 2019 12: 21
        Quote: sabakina
        rats will survive even in a nuclear war

        I suggest "Mickey Mouse". Disguise domestic weapons as an American brand. They will not guess where their death will come from.
        1. 0
          April 7 2019 12: 27
          Sergey, what the hell? EAS already has a mouse-violation .. Or outdoor advertising ... YES WHAT THE DIFFERENCE! The main thing is!
          I ask the moderator Skomorokhov not to ban ... A fairy tale all the same ....
          1. 0
            April 7 2019 12: 33
            Quote: sabakina
            and what for?

            For the image. After all, there are all sorts of cartoons popular in the world, and here we are popularizing our own. After all, Donald Trump, for example, probably came from Donald Duck (the cartoon) - this is the image in their own way and they cannot do without it. And this image of a rich and money-hungry duck, which can be traced with Trump. There is some kind of connection. )))
            Ehhh, a good fairy tale, and maybe not a fairy tale, but a message to humanity in the future. what
      2. 0
        April 7 2019 18: 41
        Quote: sabakina
        Yeah. and Leopold’s cat in these rats .... Interestingly, rats will survive even in a nuclear war ...

        I get it. I agree. Rats will survive.
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  14. +9
    April 7 2019 10: 42
    As soon as I see the heading "we will have no analogue in the world", or "by that year (by 2025,30,35) Russia will receive ..." the desire to read the article immediately disappears. They just got it out with their empty-hearted boasting statements.
    1. -4
      April 7 2019 15: 26
      Quote: Lapunevsky
      As soon as I see the heading "we will have no analogue in the world", or "by that year (by 2025,30,35) Russia will receive ..." the desire to read the article immediately disappears.

      Free advice: go to the site "Made by us" and do not torture yourself on IN !!! For - it is harmful to health! AHA laughing
      1. -2
        April 7 2019 15: 48
        I did not ask your advice. In addition, the list of what has not been made with us from the promised much more.
        1. +2
          April 7 2019 17: 08
          Quote: Lapunevsky
          I did not ask your advice.

          "Proshka is a horseman!" (c) "Gloomy River".
          It is clear that he didn’t ask, but express yourself ... more correctly, because as a rule they don’t get offended at the joke.
          Although there are exceptions to every rule ... Exceptional, you are ours! laughing
          1. -3
            April 7 2019 21: 44
            Not exclusive and not yours. It's just that I am a supporter of the fact when they talk about what has already been created, as they say, "in metal" and tested, approved for adoption, and not fed with fables about what someday "will be."
  15. +6
    April 7 2019 11: 31
    An article in the style: "will", "probably", etc. that is, "nothing".
  16. +7
    April 7 2019 12: 15
    Money for the fish again. It starts with "unparalleled in the world", and the result is "analog net". Well, as a last resort, cartoons will be drawn. There will be a present for the country. Or to the next May address. The main thing is that there is no time for buildup.
  17. 0
    April 7 2019 12: 18
    Hask plan to use as a modular media. That is, the chassis will be common, and what is on board is determined by current needs: torpedoes, missiles, ballistic missiles ...
  18. 0
    April 7 2019 12: 23
    "Husky" is a purely specific attack nuclear submarine with Zircon hypersonic missiles (seven units each in silo launchers located in one row).

    For compactness "Husky" will be made in a single-body form factor and equipped with a liquid-metal nuclear reactor. High secrecy is ensured by a relatively small displacement, low-speed water cannon, magnetohydrodynamic circulation pump of the primary circuit, thermal emission electric generator and full electric propulsion at low speed.

    "Silent death", however.
    1. 0
      April 7 2019 18: 54
      Quote: Operator
      thermionic electric generator

      Very interesting. The Americans have a nuclear thermal emission generator with a capacity of 2 MW weighs 24 tons. Efficiency 9,3%. Russia took part in the creation. Flies in orbit.
      How much electrical power does a submarine need? If for the mover <then much more.
      1. -1
        April 8 2019 00: 25
        I had in mind the work of the thermionic generator + propeller motor only at sneaking speed (5 nodes) with the required power at the level of 1 MW (with the weight of the generator 12 tons - if we take into account the American installation).

        At high speeds, of course, you must use the classic MAL.
        1. 0
          April 8 2019 08: 38
          Quote: Operator
          This refers to the operation of the thermionic generator + propeller motor only at the creeping speed (5 knots) with the required power of 1 MW

          On the one hand, an interesting solution, on the other hand, a limited resource and high cost. These are serious disadvantages. We will look at the results.
          1. -1
            April 8 2019 18: 49
            The amendment - the weight of an additional thermal emission generator with a power of 1 MW is not 12 tons, but significantly less, because 24 tons of weight of the American space nuclear power unit included, including the weight of the actual nuclear reactor, liquid metal coolant, heat exchanger and shadow protection (all this is already included in YASU NPS).
            1. 0
              April 8 2019 21: 29
              Quote: Operator
              mandrel - the weight of an additional thermionic emission generator with a capacity of 1 MW will not be 12 tons, but significantly less, since 24 tons of the weight of the American space nuclear power plant includes the weight of the actual nuclear reactor, liquid metal coolant, heat exchanger and shadow protection (all this is already included in the nuclear power system Nuclear submarine).

              Thanks for the remark. Had seen.
  19. 0
    April 7 2019 12: 29
    How our military-industrial complex is tired of its tales and cartoons. Well, where are the praised Su-57 and Almaty? AND?
    1. +5
      April 7 2019 13: 49
      The Crimean bridge, too, was considered by some to be the tricks of Mosfilm.
  20. +5
    April 7 2019 12: 37
    I got all this hatred about #weapons having no analogues in the world. It reminds me of the patriotic rhetoric of the late 30s. And then there was the terrible June 41st. The truth was December near Moscow .... But will we stretch this time until December?
  21. -1
    April 7 2019 12: 39
    Submarine "Husky" surpass existing submarines in all essential parameters


    I'm in stupor ! Whoever came up with the idea to name the project of Russian submarines - "husky". Is this in honor of the English dog breed? Judging by the way Russian cities have been flooded with "super-markers", we will wait for a new project of submarines called "Super Husky". fool
    1. -1
      April 7 2019 12: 49
      Quote: askort154
      Is that in honor of the English dog breed?

      Well, why immediately - "English"?

      The word husky was originally called the Eskimos (or Inuit), "... known as Huskies, the English sailors of merchant ships pronounced the word" Huskies "(" ... known as Huskies, a contraction of Huskimos, the pronunciation given to the word „ Eskimos “by the English sailors of trading vessels.”).

      The use of the word husky in relation to dogs was first noted in 1852 for dogs that contained Inuit

      Here everything around the Eskimos revolves, actually laughing

      And the husky is such a Siamese husky (her eyes are blue because), very curious, nimble and smart.

      Good name, what's wrong with you?
      1. +3
        April 7 2019 13: 00
        Consultant "... In a word husky originally called Eskimos (or Inuit), "... known as Husky, short for Husky the English sailors of merchant ships pronounced the word "Eskimo"

        Thanks for the consultation" ! Now, if the project was called "Eskimo", I would be delighted. And "Husky" ("huskimo" in your version) - this is the English version - I hate it. hi
        1. -5
          April 7 2019 13: 03
          Quote: askort154
          Now, if the project was called "Eskimo", I would be delighted

          Better Chukchi then. It is even more Russian. But I would not personally dare call it a submarine.

          And "husky" is a word as well-known Russian as a telephone, a shop, and so on. Trust the dog lover with experience laughing
          1. +3
            April 7 2019 13: 28
            Consultant...A "husky" is a word as well-known Russian as a telephone, a shop and so on. Trust the dog lover with experience

            I remember the "dog lovers" in the spring! Oh, how I would all of you .. "strangled in my arms" ... and forced to clean up filthy squares and sidewalks .. You are usurping animals. Their genes are to live in nature.
            You, they are being driven into a cage (apartments) and stupidly think that you are showing humanity and generosity. But by this, you kill their gene key. negative To understand something, you need to put yourself in the place of your opponent hi
            1. -4
              April 7 2019 13: 32
              Quote: askort154
              To understand something, you need to put yourself in the place of your opponent

              Yes, and on mine is not bad ... what about everything else - you are not for me, you are in the police, the housing office and the "green" still, probably.

              Yes, well ... just in case, suddenly thinking wakes up: a domestic dog in nature, as a rule, does not survive. In the city - survives with difficulty, and then - until the first capture.

              And you leave the "gene keys" for yourself, you will undoubtedly need them hi
              1. +1
                April 7 2019 13: 41
                Consultant....Yes, so ... just in case, suddenly thinking wakes up: a domestic dog in nature, as a rule, does not survive. In the city - survives with difficulty, and then - until the first capture.

                But what about the person who drags the animal, or the reptiles in the apartment?
                If you do not understand this, then talk about "gene keys", you will not master. hi
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      2. 0
        April 7 2019 17: 35
        The purebred has eyes of different colors. Blue-brown is the norm. "Dog owners will understand.
  22. +6
    April 7 2019 13: 07
    Admins, are you not tired of pouring "jam for tomorrow" into cans? After all, no matter how many times "halva" says, it won't get sweeter in your mouth)))
  23. -2
    April 7 2019 13: 28
    Why anti-ship Caliber, if there will be Zircon? The boat is certainly gorgeous, the best in the world, but will appear in the best case in 6-7 years
  24. +4
    April 7 2019 13: 46
    Taking into account the factor of rapid development of modern (prospective) attack weapon systems in Russia, one can speak of the possibility of creating principled new complexes capable of being carriers of several of them at once. First of all, this is about cruise missiles, including hypersonic missiles of various purposes: Caliber and Zircon missiles.

    How I like such publications - just horror. Especially when two things happen
    1. As soon as something new appears, they immediately try to "attach" it somewhere, First "Caliber", which for many suddenly turned out to be something unattainable, although it was only necessary to read carefully if you are really interested in military topics. But three years before the launches in Syria, the commander of the Caspian Flotilla had already voiced the performance characteristics
    2. The desire to put on something "non-existent" sometimes non-serial weapon. And the main thing is to conclude that it will ever surpass anyone else.

    At one time, there was such a friend on the network. Dancomm, if anyone has heard. The place of service, apparently, was the Ministry of Defense. And it was an interesting enough source. Sometimes there was a suspicion that a certain infa was being artificially merged through it, so that "sworn friends" would start scratching their turnips.
    So, about 2 years ago, he said something like this. I cannot guarantee the accuracy of phrases, but I give 1000% for the meaning. He wrote the following:
    ... Testing of the Zircon rocket continues. They are going well. Work has begun on two more minerals. One of them is the evolutionary development of the foundations laid in "Zircon", the other is the revolutionary development ....

    You yourself understand that he did not voice the name of these "two minerals", but what can be said with a thousand percent guarantee - they will be called - they will immediately forget about the "Calibers" and "Zircons" and will only shove them where necessary and where not laughing

    If the promising nuclear submarines of the Husky project are also oriented as carriers of the Poseidon strategic submarines, the project turns into a real underwater military base - low noise, wide-armed.

    Thank God that the author, at least here, decided that it is nonsense to "cross" the "Husky" boat with the "Poseidon" ...

    Quote: g1v2
    That's all for now - boltology. Husky doesn’t exist as a well-developed project. Thp is just fortune-telling on coffee grounds.

    Yeah! it’s the same as saying that now I am finishing a starship project that will surpass in all its parameters everything that is now and what will happen in the next 50-100 years. It remains for me to complete the production of a set of drawings (only 2500 sheets left and complete 30 volumes of a memo of 600 sheets each. Well, find a little $ 700 trillion to start construction ....
    It’s about the same as talking about a certain submarine that does not yet exist and does not even know what it will be like ... laughing laughing
    1. -4
      April 7 2019 16: 16
      Why do you need a spaceship, there is an excellent project M 19 with YaPVRD - for flights in space.
  25. +2
    April 7 2019 14: 04
    After 2020 they promise ...

    They have already promised so much AFTER 2020 that they simply have to fill up with the latest technology. However, they do not indicate exact dates, and some kind of 2050th year will also be AFTER 2020. And if they call the term for sure, then for some reason, it always moves over
    1. -1
      April 7 2019 14: 51
      They have already promised so much AFTER 2020 that they simply have to fill up with the latest technology. However, they do not indicate exact dates, and some kind of 2050th year will also be AFTER 2020. And if they call the term for sure, then for some reason, it always moves over

      Well, here everything is just something simple: by this time "either the donkey, or the emir (padishah) ......" or .... all those who are, now, here, are reading .... wink
    2. 0
      April 7 2019 19: 01
      Quote: Piramidon
      They have already promised so much AFTER 2020 that they simply have to fill up with the latest technology. However, they do not indicate exact dates, and some kind of 2050th year will also be AFTER 2020. And if they call the term for sure, then for some reason, it always moves over

      Yes you are right. Only now they cannot technologically build the Moscow-Kazan high-speed rail. Just imagine, they cannot technologically !!! https: //svpressa.ru/blogs/article/229652/ And here we are talking about underwater astrolabes with missiles on board.
  26. +3
    April 7 2019 15: 06
    "... the possibility of turning the Husky into an underwater military base with different types of weapons and combat missions ..."
    If we add a couple of "Topol-M" and at least one "Sarmat" and a company of marines with an BMP-4, then we get a sumbarina that has no analogue in the world at all, performing the functions of a full-fledged "underwater military base"
    1. +1
      April 7 2019 15: 37
      And if reinforced by a unit of military parapsychologists! Wow Wunderwaffle succeed. The main thing is to finance properly. And build an office higher. With the secretaries. Otherwise, nothing will happen.
    2. 0
      April 8 2019 07: 16
      Will the tanks fit in there?
  27. -1
    April 7 2019 15: 33
    Quote: donavi49
    only a SSBN can make a dagger volley

    On a fig? laughing
  28. +1
    April 7 2019 15: 44
    Husky will be where Armata tank, SU-57 aircraft, Sarmat rocket, Vostochny spaceport and much more. The main thing is to correctly, skillfully cut budget money, but the output will still be zero. We eat up the Soviet heritage, and then deadlock and gloom. Guided by.
  29. +4
    April 7 2019 16: 04
    Hmm ..., the characteristics are not known, the sources are not known, the authors are not even known (they are probably embarrassed), "But there is no reason to doubt the final superiority of the Husky over the existing projects." This is how pre-war songs like "And on the enemy's land we will defeat the enemy with Little blood, with a mighty blow!"

    By the way, why are they so worried about "Zircon"? The Nazis at one time fired 4300 (VIKI) FAU-2s, which have the same distance and indestructibility for air defense (those years) as that of the Zircon, and the throw weight is twice as good. Did it help them? Perhaps someone will remember that zircon has better accuracy, but something about it is silent.

    Do not think bad - it’s good that there are such missiles, it’s bad that they present such information.
  30. +1
    April 7 2019 16: 06
    In general, it would be great if VO conducted a survey among readers. Do they believe that something worthwhile will come out of the above topic? And see the results yes and no. Is it not interesting?
  31. +3
    April 7 2019 16: 26
    Quote: Simferopol
    Why anti-ship Caliber, if there will be Zircon? The boat is certainly gorgeous, the best in the world, but will appear in the best case in 6-7 years

    So, you will also shoot a Zircon at a missile boat, for example, Project 660 (Polish Navy)? Especially if it is at a distance of 30 kilometers .... Wow, how "Zircon" will show itself there .... And we will work on some kind of barge with "Zircon" too. And figs with her that it will be five or six times cheaper than one "Zircon"
    1. -3
      April 7 2019 19: 54
      On boats - Su 30 and Su 34 with X 35, X 31 and X 59 will be more than enough.
  32. 0
    April 7 2019 19: 17
    If the author announces the development of a new generation of nuclear submarines, so it is necessary to write about the submarine itself, what can be listed only with what can it be armed with? -All the above weapons are worth it on existing nuclear submarines. - and "causing irreparable damage to aircraft carriers" is cool laughing
  33. 0
    April 7 2019 19: 36
    * Rapid development *))
    Joke of the year
  34. 0
    April 7 2019 19: 38
    That's when the Husky will be launched, then we’ll talk.
    1. +1
      April 7 2019 20: 09
      It would be important for them to hold out until age 24 ..
      And there the grass does not grow
    2. +1
      April 7 2019 20: 45
      Quote: Darth Ragozinus
      then we'll talk

      O. Another catch phrase in the instructions. Thank you
  35. AAK
    0
    April 7 2019 20: 01
    As soon as it leaves the slipway, it will immediately surpass ...
  36. +3
    April 7 2019 20: 19
    Quote: Vadim237
    On boats - Su 30 and Su 34 with X 35, X 31 and X 59 will be more than enough.

    Yeah, if only these boats plus RTOs and corvettes are within the reach of these aircraft and missiles. And here some "Can't live without" Zircon ". And everywhere they are ready to shoot ...
  37. -1
    April 8 2019 09: 38
    Unfortunately, again there are projectors and projectors. Again dozens of "Calibers" and "Zircons", irreparable damage that has no analogues in the world. No one thought that the launch of cruise missiles would simply unmask the boat. A modern multipurpose nuclear submarine, first of all, should be a carrier of modern underwater weapons (which, unfortunately, we have in the paddock). And of course it must be built in a large series.
  38. ZVS
    0
    April 8 2019 10: 37
    Similar praises were sung by the Su-57, the Armata tank, and many other types of weapons. Where are they? So they remained in dithyrambs, and the troops received modernized Soviet weapons. And Putin and Shoigu need to bow at their feet to the Soviet system, which has provided the country with such weapons that it can be modernized indefinitely without creating anything new of its own.
  39. +2
    April 8 2019 16: 28
    We can’t even imagine what this submarine can do. It’s funny to listen and read Mr. Yokspertov. I have worked in the industry for a dozen years .... If someone finds out the truth, he will not go anywhere :)))
    1. 0
      April 8 2019 21: 33
      Quote: Alexander Veresov
      We can’t even imagine what this submarine can do. It’s funny to listen and read Mr. Yokspertov. I have worked in the industry for a dozen years .... If someone finds out the truth, he will not go anywhere :)))


      come on...
      I previously had knowledge about the location of the mobility reserve warehouses on a fairly vast territory.
      At that time, this level of access was much higher than the lieutenant general of the army.
      So what?
      5 years and let's go ...
  40. 0
    April 8 2019 17: 27
    Quote: Vol4ara
    Surpass, fly, build, create.

    ++
  41. -1
    April 8 2019 21: 30
    Why aren’t the names of the author’s titles of such news published?
    News - no news ...