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Missed chapter "Strategy-2020"

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Missed chapter "Strategy-2020"
15 March 2012, the development team released the final version of "Strategy-2020". In the opinion of the author of these lines, this opus suffers from a flaw that turns the “Strategy-2020” into dust. The fact is that in time for the Russian 2020 year in today's Russia will be less than half of its population. This is shown by elementary calculations. But Moscow and St. Petersburg clever men, who for years had been blooming first over the "Concept-2020", and then over the "Strategy-2020", pointedly ignored the obvious calculations and the obvious consequences of this shift. Consider all the details.


In his article "Russia - the national question" V.V. Putin has finally touched the most acute problem. Touched in a peculiar way: the processes that are spoken about in the article are not verified by a single digit! All the arguments hang in the air, as there is no stable foundation under them. How can you talk about the most complicated processes in interethnic relations without defining these processes in generally understandable figures ?!

First of all, V.V. Putin should have shown the figures at what rate the extinction of the Russian people is proceeding and its replacement by external migration. To the best of his abilities, the author of these lines tried to fill the annoying gap of this article. I hope that an attentive reader who is friendly with numbers will appreciate the proposed calculations. And those who disagree with the above calculations can offer their own.

The extinction of the Russian people

According to the results of the 2002 census, in the historically Russian regions of the Russian Federation of the Central, Northwestern and Volga federal districts, the 21 region was recorded, in which the Russian share was more than 90% of the population: Vologodskaya (96,6%), Tambov (96,5%), Bryansk (96,3%) ), Lipetsk and Kursk (in 95,8%), Oryol (95,3%), Tula (95,2%), Yaroslavl (95,1%), Nizhny Novgorod (95%), Vladimirskaya (94,75%), Ryazan (94,5%), Pskov (94,3%) %), Arkhangelskaya (94,2%), Voronezhskaya (94,1%), Novgorodskaya (93,9%), Ivanovo (93,7%), Kaluga (93,5%), my own Smolensk (93,4%), Belgorodskaya (XN UMX%), Tverskaya (92,9%), Moscow (92,5%), in the Leningrad region the Russian share was 91% of the population.

For the time being, I leave without comment the factor of multimillion external migration, the main part of which is not shown by the Rosstat chronicles.

In its yearbooks, Rosstat reports indicators of fertility, mortality, natural increase / natural loss (extinction) in each region of the Russian Federation. All listed, historically Russian regions are dying out! For calculating the benchmark figures of extinction of the Russian people, the author uses an obvious method: among these regions, three with maximum and three with minimum indicators of natural loss-extinction (death rate over birth rate per 1000 population) are taken, the average extinction is calculated, which is multiplied by the current number of Russian people . The result is the reference figure for the extinction of the Russian people in a particular year.

According to the 12 census of January 1989, the number of Russian people in the RSFSR was 119,9 million. In the first half of 1989, the rapidly decaying natural increase of the Russian people increased its number in the RSFSR to 1990 million. In the middle of 1991, the Russian death rate exceeded the Russian birth rate, and the Russian people began to die out. According to the census of the year Russian 120,5 in the Russian Federation turned out to be 1991 million, and according to the census of the year 2002 115,9 million

Migration growth for 1989-2010 years Rosstat showed in 7 million. Suppose that this is the benchmark figures of the migration increase of the Russian people during this period. Still, the Russians in those years mainly drove into Russia than they left. Based on these figures, we approximately determine the current number of the Russian people for a particular year. Consider calculations for several years.

1995 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 13,1 on 1000 population), Tverskaya (minus 12,3) and Tula (minus 12,1); minimum: Belgorod (minus 5,4), Bryansk (minus 6,7) and Orlovskaya (minus 7,4). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in the 1995 year - minus 9,5 per 1000 population. By the way, this indicator 1995 of the year for the whole of the Russian Federation amounted to minus 5,7 on 1000.

Assume that the number of Russian people in 1995 was 119 million. Hence, the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year is minus 1 130 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 840 thousand. It turns out that all other peoples of Russia and, above all, historically indigenous Muslims for Russia and all newcomers from external migration have a natural increase (excess birth rate over mortality), which amounted to 1995 about plus 290 thousand

2000 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 14,9 on 1000 population), Tula (minus 14,2) and Tverskaya (minus 14,1); minimum: Vologodskaya (minus 7,2), Belgorod (minus 7,5) and Lipetsk (minus 8,7). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in the 2000 year - minus 11,1 per 1000 population. By the way, this indicator 2000 of the year for the whole of the Russian Federation amounted to minus 6,6 on 1000.

Assume that the number of Russian people in 2000 was 117 million. Hence, the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year is minus 1 300 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 958,5 thousand. It turns out that all other peoples of Russia and, above all, historically indigenous Muslims for Russia and all newcomers from external migration experienced a natural increase, which amounted to about 2000 thousand in 340 year.

2005 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 15,7 on 1000 population), Tula (minus 14,2) and Tverskaya (minus 13,7); minimum: Belgorod (minus 7,1), Vologda (minus 8,3) and Lipetsk (minus 8,6). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in 2005 minus 11,25 per 1000 population. By the way, this indicator 2005 of the year for the whole of the Russian Federation amounted to minus 5,9 on 1000.

Assume that the number of Russian people in 2005 was 114 million. Hence, the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year is minus 1 285 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 846,5 thousand. It turns out that all other peoples of Russia and, above all, historically indigenous Muslims for Russia and all newcomers from external migration experienced a natural increase, which amounted to about 2005 thousand in 440 year.

2010 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 10,5 on 1000 population), Tula (minus 9,3) and Tverskaya (minus 9,0); minimum: Belgorod (minus 3,8), Vologda (minus 3,85) and Lipetsk (minus 5,3). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in 2010 minus 7,0 per 1000 population. Please note that this indicator 2010 of the year for the entire RF amounted to only minus 1,7 on 1000.

The census-2010 showed that the number of Russian people in 2010 was 111 million. Hence, the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year is minus 770 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 240 thousand. It turns out that all other peoples of Russia and, above all, historically indigenous Muslims for Russia and all newcomers from external migration experienced a natural increase, which amounted to about 2010 thousand in 530 year. Pay special attention to how this figure is steadily growing!

As a result of all the calculations, it turns out that in the 1992-2011 years in Russia, roughly, 22,5 million Russians have died out! Not dead - this is not a death rate - and not dead, but it is extinct! And not the average "dear Russians", which does not know any science, namely - Russian!

At the same time, I would like to hope that in general in Russia the demography of the Russian people is still better than its average in the historically Russian regions, in which the Russian share is more than 90% of the population. But in this case there is every reason to assert that the figure of the extinction of the Russian people for 1992-2011 has already passed the mark of 20 million! That is, the Russian mortality rate for 1992-2011 years exceeded the Russian birth rate at least (!) By 20 million! Minimum, because it is calculated from the official Rosstat reports, if they tell us the truth.

Just wondering why V.V. Putin came to talk about the national question in the North Caucasus Federal District, where everything is more than fine with demography, and not in the Pskov, Tver or Tula regions, where the Russian people are dying out by 1-1,5% per year ?! I repeat: it does not die, but dies out!

Summing up. For 1992-2011 in today's Russia, the overall index of natural loss-extinction (excess of mortality over birth rate) was, according to Rosstat, 13,5 million. At the same time, the Russian people died out by no less than 20 million. Therefore, all other peoples of Russia and, first In general, the historically indigenous for Russia Muslims (God forbid them!) and all newcomers from external migration experienced a natural increase of at least 6,5 million.

They will immediately indicate to me that, on the basis of my calculations, at the time of the census-2010 Russians should have been hardly more than 100 million! However, the census-2010 showed that the number of the Russian people is 111 million. It would have turned out if not for the two “salvage” processes!

The first “saving” process was the mass return of Russians to the Russian Federation from the former Soviet republics. Rosstat showed that the migration increase for 1989-2010 amounted to 7 million. Since the actual border control data on the total entry into Russia and the total exit from it are still closed, let us assume that the migration increase of the Russian people is no more than 7 million.

The second “salvation” process was the change of a significant part of the respondents in the 2002 and 2010 censuses of the definition of their own nationality. Thus, according to the census-1989, the Ukrainians recorded 4,3 million in the RSFSR; according to the census-2002 already in the Russian Federation - 2,9 million, and according to the census-2010 - 1,9 million! 2,4 million less than 1989 year! And despite the fact that the Russian Federation and Ukraine have a positive migration balance.

Belarusians in 1989 were recorded 1,2 million, in 2002-m - 808 thousand, and in 2010-m - 521,5 thousand, in 680 thousand. Less than in 1989 year!

Chuvash in 1989 was recorded 1774 thousand, in 2002-m - 1637 thousand, and in 2010-m - 1436 thousand, in 340 thousand less than in 1989 year!

Udmurtov in 1989 was recorded 715 thousand, in 2002-m - 637 thousand, and in 2010-m - 553 thousand, in 160 thousand. Less than in 1989 year! Etc. Plus, alien migrants, some of whom were also called Russian during the censuses.

In my opinion, a similar process can be estimated by a figure - up to 5 million. That is, the Russian people “arrived” at 5 million as a result of this process, and all other peoples - “lost.” Anyone can make sure that if it were not for these two "salvage" processes, there would be no more than 100 million in the Russian Federation today.

External migration

Ten years ago, six months before the census-2002, the assistant to the President of the Russian Federation V.P. Ivanov published an interview with an incredible level of substantive frankness in AIF (N15, 2002). It can be stated that this interview, given six months before the census-2002, revealingly refuted (!) The results of not only this census, the closest one at that time, but also the results of the next census-2010! V. Ivanov warned that this is "the assessment data of law enforcement agencies, which, by the way, have never been published before."

Last year, 2001 mln. Arrived through border control posts only from the CIS countries to Russia (14,5), and 11,5 million left the country, the rest was 3 million. The similar picture was in 1999 and 2000.

Let's compare. V. Ivanov said that only during these three years (1999-2001) and only from the CIS countries the migration increase amounted to 9 million! However, the official Rosstat reports on migration exchange between the Russian Federation and the CIS countries for 1999-2001 have so far reported something completely different.

1999 year: arrived - 362 708, left - 127 807, "remnant" - 234 901.

2000 year: arrived - 346 774, left - 83 312, "remnant" - 263 462.

2001 year: arrived - 183 650, left - 61 570, "remnant" - 122 080.

From here, according to Rosstat, the migration increase from the CIS countries over 1999-2001 amounted to only 620 443. Please note: the Rosstat version differs from the figures from the VP interview. Ivanov in 15 times!

If we take the indicator 3 million (from V. Ivanov) for a stable maximum, over the 1992-2001 years, the positive balance of the migration exchange of the Russian Federation with the CIS countries will be plus 30 million. If in the remaining years of this period a positive migration balance is assumed to be at least 1 million, then it was plus 16 million. Thus, it can be assumed that the average reference point of migration growth over 1992-2001 years only from the CIS countries was plus 23 million.

According to law enforcement agencies, about 600 000 citizens of Azerbaijan live in Moscow, of which only 60 000 are officially registered, and only 13 people have registered for tax accounting. After six months, the census-2002 counted, but not in Moscow, but in the whole of the Russian Federation, 621 840 Azerbaijanis, and the census-2010 and even less - 603 070.

Citizens of China in the capital are more than 100 000, and only 216 people are on tax records. The census-2002 found all 34 577 Chinese within the Russian Federation; and the census-2010 is 28 943.

The question is inevitable: how many Chinese citizens are in Russia today? On this score, something is known. Oleg Slobodchikov, Ph.D. (Political Science), demographer, reports the following: “There are different estimates of the number of Chinese visitors on Russian territory: from 2-2,5 million to 5-10 million people” (AiF, N46, 2005). These were estimates of 2005 of the year. A year later, he was supplemented by Doctor of Economic Sciences Krasnikov, without specifying, however, the source: “2 million Chinese settle down annually in Russia” (28.06.2006. “Our version.” TVC).

But nothing similar Rosstat stubbornly fixes. Meanwhile, the number of Chinese citizens within the Russian Federation can already be estimated at 10 million; and it turns out that the Tatars are no longer the second largest Russian people, but only the third! The second - the Chinese! It is even interesting how the ardent Tatar public (and not only Tatar) will react to this when it realizes what is happening.

According to the census-2002, in the Far Eastern Federal District there were only 6,5 million of citizens of the Russian Federation, and according to the census of 2010 - 6,3 million. In addition to the Chinese, who are in the country, apparently, 10 million, how many Vietnamese and Koreans? The question is legitimate: are we giving in, are we handing over the Far East? And how many migrants to the Russian Federation from the Arab world and from Africa?

And from the interview with V.P. Ivanova: “The total number of foreigners in Russia today exceeds 10 million. About half of them are illegal immigrants. If no legislative measures are taken, the number of illegal immigrants by the year 2010 may increase to 19 million. ” The census-2002 took into account 239 thousand people, temporarily (less than 1 of the year, according to the Rosstat version) who were in the territory of the Russian Federation; and the census-2010 of those recorded 489 th.

Beginning with 2004, the author of these lines patiently applied to the higher authorities of the country with a request to provide him with border control data on the total entry into the Russian Federation and the total exit from it. And it gave the result.

21 February 2011 of the year I received the sixth letter from the FMS from 08.02.2011 NMS-3 / 2383 to NHRI-4 / 4 from 25.01.2011, which was signed by the head of the Organization and Analytical Department, Ms. E.A. Radochina. The most incredible is in the “supplement” to the sixth letter of the FMS - this is the data of border control for 2005-2010 years! I draw attention to the fact that neither on the FSB website (www.fsb.ru), nor on the FMS website (www.fms.gov.ru), nor on the Rosstat website www.gks.ru, this information is available!

1 March 2011, I received the sixth letter from Rosstat from 18.02.2011 N8-0-20 / 146 to 4 / 5 from 25.01.2011, which, as always, was signed by the head of the Office of Population Statistics and Health, Ms. IA Zbarskaya. To quote a crucially important piece of it: “The time criterion for classifying the population as permanent is 12 months” (“Recommendations of the Conference of European Statisticians on Conducting Population and Housing Censuses 2010 of the Year”, United Nations Economic Commission for Europe, New York, Geneva, 2006).

Citizens of the Russian Federation, foreign citizens and stateless persons registered in the territorial bodies of the Federal Migration Service at the place of residence or at the place of stay for a term of 1 a year or more (arrivals), as well as those removed from the register at the place of residence due to departure residence outside the Russian Federation (retired). The position of Rosstat on the issue of long-term migration accounting set out in previous answers (letters from 21.11.2004 N8-0-20 / 694; from 10.11.2006 N8-0-20 / 601; from 13.11. 2009 N8-0-20-916-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX-XNUMX; XNUMX. XNUMX .

I will add that the letters from Rosstat from 30.03.2007 N8-0-20 / 164 and from 28.05.2010 N8-0-20 / 507 are not mentioned. There were five letters in total, this is the sixth.

Fix the “position of Rosstat”: if the migrant “registered with the territorial offices of the Federal Migration Service at the place of residence”, but lived on it less than 1 of the year, or did not register at all, then he is not subject to “statistical observation”! That is, there is no way for him in Russia ?! How nice!

And also note: I ask about border control data, and Rosstat provides data on registered (!) Long-term migration. I ask about one thing, and Rosstat answers completely about the other! But after the sixth letter of the FMS, such a reception by Rosstat looks just silly. Now we will study the parameters of unregistered (!) Long-term migration for 2005-2010 years.

There is a danger of overloading the reader’s attention with minor figures from the “appendix” to the sixth letter of the FMS. Therefore, I quote the principal points. At the same time, I immediately show, and what the official site of Rosstat, www.gks.ru, reports about the same.

"2005 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia, 25 506 720; including entry parts - 14 226 286, exit parts - 11 280 434. From these FSB data, it follows that the migration increase (the excess of entry into Russia over leaving it) in 2005 amounted to 2 945 852 (14 226 286 minus 11 280 434). And Rosstat informed us that only 107 432 (entered - 177 230, left - 69 798). Hence, the hidden (not reflected by Rosstat reports) part of the migration increment was 2 838 418 (2 945 852 minus 107 432). As they say in Odessa, feel the two big differences!

"2006 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia, 27 848 010; including entry parts - 15 184 268, exit parts - 12 663 842. According to the FSB, the migration increase in 2006 was 2 520 426, and according to Rosstat, 132 319 (entered - 186 380, left - 54 062). The hidden part of the migration gain is 2 388 107.

"2007 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia, 30 710 199; including entry parts - 16 416 852, exit parts - 14 293 347. According to the FSB, the migration increase in 2007 was 2 123 505, and according to Rosstat, 239 943 (entered - 286 056, left - 47 013). The hidden part of the migration gain is 1 883 562.

"2008 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia, 33 684 200; including: entry parts - 18 011 718, exit parts - 15 672 482. According to the FSB, the migration increase in 2008 was 2 339 236, and according to Rosstat, 242 106 (entered - 281 614, left - 39 508). The hidden part of the migration gain is 2 097 130.

"2009 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia, 36 241 217; including entry parts - 18 762 080, exit parts - 17 479 137. According to the FSB, the migration increase in 2009 was 1 282 943, and according to Rosstat, 247 449 (entered - 279 907, left - 32 458). The hidden part of the migration gain is 1 035 494.

"2010 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia, 39 501 010; including entry parts - 20 588 911, exit parts - 18 912 099. According to the FSB, the migration increase in 2010 was 1 676 812, and according to Rosstat, 158 079 (entered - 191 656, left - 33 577). The hidden part of the migration gain is 1 518 733.

Summing up. PS of the FSB of Russia recorded that the actual (!) Migration increase for 2005-2010 years - 12 888 774. And according to Rosstat, a long-term migration increase, registered (!) By the territorial bodies of the FMS, is 1 127 328. Thus, the unregistered, and therefore hidden, part of the migration increase over the 2005-2010 years (not reflected by the Rosstat chronicles) was 11 761 446. Got a “subtlety” ?!

In the 2005-2010 years, the Rosstat, with its chronicles, “legalized” less than 10% of the real migration increase of this period!

Let's compare. According to Rosstat, the migration increase for 1989-2010 amounted to 7 million, and the FSB of Russia FS recorded that only for 2005-2010 years the actual migration increase was 12 888 774. In my opinion, the interview of V.P. Ivanov in AiF (N15, 2002) and the “appendix” to the sixth letter of the FMS unconditionally refute (!) The results of the 2002 and 2010 censuses from Rosstat!

Finally, to illustrate what is happening, consider the absurd situation. Imagine that in the 2005-2010 years, Ms. I.A. Zbarskaya (head of the Department of Population and Health Statistics of Rosstat) in her own apartment or in her own cottage recorded a migration increase in external migrants to 13! Naturally, she turns in all instances and asks for clean up. And in response, he hears that at her address “is registered with the territorial body of the FMS and lives more than 1 of the year” of the entire 1 (one) migrant! The rest are not subject to "statistical observation"!

Missed chapter "Strategy-2020"

So far, two key indicators remain outside the framework of the discussion of the demographic situation in the Russian Federation, and now the national issue. For 1992-2011, the extinction of the Russian people (from Rosstat reports) was no less than 20 million. And the migration increase, as we saw above, averages not less than plus 2 million per year, and for 23 of the year (1989 -2011) guaranteed to exceed 40 million. And since the migration growth in Rosstat for 1989-2010 was only plus 7 million (5,5 million for 1989 and 1,5 million for 2003-2010), its hidden part is today no less than plus 35 million!

By virtue of this default, these discussions simply cannot reach the level of convergence of these two processes into one! Meanwhile, the presentation of these two processes in continuity makes a strong impression, especially if you enter into the calculations the hidden part of the migration increase! Since the author does not yet have full border control data for 1992-2011 years, further is calculated at the level of the order of numbers.

Every year of the 1992-2011 period, Russia is in the red for 1 million endangered Russians (based on Rosstat data) and positive for 2 million migration gains (based on interviews of top officials of the Russian Federation and border control data for 2005-2010. ). The migration increase of the Russian people was approximately balanced by the natural growth of all other peoples of the Russian Federation, both historically indigenous to Russia and those who came from external migration.

It follows that every year of the 1992-2011 period, the excess of the number of the Russian people over the number of all other peoples of the Russian Federation was reduced by 3 million! That is, this excess should have been reduced over the years by 60 million. It should have been, but I remind you that during the censuses of 2002 and 2010 to 5 million, the respondents revised their national identity and called themselves Russians. Russian 5 million "arrived", and all other nations - "departed."

And because the excess of the number of the Russian people over the number of all other peoples of the Russian Federation has declined in twenty years (1992-2011) not by 60 million, but “only” by 50 million! Just!

According to the 12 census of January 1989, the number of Russian people in the RSFSR was 119,9 million, and the number of all other peoples was 27,1 million. That is, the Russian people outnumbered the other peoples of the RSFSR by 92,8 million.

I repeat once again: as soon as the hidden part of the migration increase for 1989-2010 is entered into the calculations - no less than 35 million, the statistics on demography in the Russian Federation immediately undergo a dramatic revision!

Currently, the resident population of the Russian Federation is not at all 143 million, as Rosstat says, but about 180 million: Russians - 110 million (60%), all other peoples - 70 million (40%). The excess of the number of the Russian people over the number of all other nations today is no more than 40 million! By the way, there is a reason to correlate among themselves 180 million of the resident population of the Russian Federation and the mortality rate shown by Rosstat in recent years in 2 million per year.

And finally, the main thing: what's next? What predictions are calculated on the basis of the already well-known dynamics of the extinction of the Russian people and its replacement by external migration? Nothing comforting: the unified process of extinction of the Russian people and its replacement by external migration passes to the next stage.

Here it is necessary to remind something. In 1987, in the RSFSR 2-2,1 million Russian children were born (with a total birth rate of 2,5 million). And in the 1993 year, already in the Russian Federation, only 1 million were born to Russian children (with a total birth rate less than 1,4 million). And after 1993, in the Russian Federation, 1 million (plus or minus 100 000) is born in Russian children a year.

In 2011, the first Novorossiysk Russian generation, 1993, was born. If the two-to-one ratio in the neighboring generations of the Russian people persists (there are no other preconditions yet), then in 2015-2020 a second “Novorossiyansky” Russian generation will emerge, which will be only 500 000 (plus or minus 100 000 ) in year.

And in the current decade (2010-2020) there will be a significant transition-shift: the Russian people will have less children than all other peoples of Russia! Let me remind you that quite recently, in the 1987 year, the Russian people had four times more children than all other nations.

Beginning with the 1994 year, the Russian mortality rate regularly reaches the mark of 2 million per year; total mortality, according to Rosstat, to 2,37 million in 2003 year. However, considering that in the 50 of the 20th century more than 2,5 million children per year were born in the RSFSR, taking into account the current life expectancy and especially considering the migration increase, there is every reason to expect that in 2015-2020 the total mortality in Russia will reach 3 million per year. Russian mortality at the same time will reach the level of 2,5 million per year.

Beginning with 1993, the Russian people are dying out by 1 million per year. But, as we see, there is good reason to expect that in 2015-2020 years, the extinction of the Russian people will reach 2 million per year!

Assume that the migration increase will remain at the level of 2 million per year. At the same time, the migration increase of the Russian people will continue to decline and may turn into a migration decline. It is obvious that the natural growth of all other peoples of Russia, indigenous and newcomers, will continue to grow. Consequently, there is every reason to expect that the excess of the number of the Russian people over the number of all other peoples of the Russian Federation during this period (2015-2020) will begin to decline already by 4 million per year!

At the same time, it can be assumed that with the simplification of the visa regime with the European Union, the United States and other countries, a mass departure will begin from the Russian Federation, and above all, Russian youth - cultural, educated, law-abiding, with European face control! Today, opinion polls show that over the past twenty years (1992-2011), the share of those who would like to leave the Russian Federation has increased from 5% to 21%; and this is at least 30 million people!

Summing up. Before 2020, the Russian people will die out by no less than 10 million; all other peoples of Russia will increase their number by a natural increase by another plus 7-8 million; the migration increase of foreign migrants for Russia will be another plus 20 million, minus the quite possible departure of several million Russians from Russia. Forgot nothing?

These calculations show that by 2020, the current excess of the number of the Russian people over the number of all other peoples of the Russian Federation in 40 million will evaporate! And in the 2020 area, the share of the Russian people in the total population of the Russian Federation will fall below 50%. In my view, this is an objective condition for the beginning of the last collapse of Russia according to the Yugoslav scenario. With ours, of course, the specifics, but will not find it enough.

This does not mean that the collapse of Russia will begin exactly in the 2020 year or sometime later. Decay can begin before the 2020 year! We all see that move stories dizzy speeds up, and that weak states are crushed and swept away mercilessly! I hope no one will argue that over the past twenty years (1992-2011) Russia has become stronger on 20 million extinct Russians ?! Or that the hidden migration increase in 35 million alien migrants "raised Russia from its knees" ?!

His first election article V.V. Putin called "Russia is focusing." But the achieved dynamics of the extinction of the Russian people and its replacement by external migration shows the exact opposite: Russia is rapidly spreading! Is it possible that during the 12 years of their stay in the highest posts of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin did not understand this ?!

And the Moscow and St. Petersburg clever men, those who first composed the “Concept-2020”, then the “Strategy-2020”, in which the stages of the “further development” of the “new democratic Great Russia” before the 2020 year began, V.V. Putin spent hours chirping on television about anything - did they not understand this either ?! What to say to this: the poor fellows have embraced the ideas of "market democracy" and "rootless globalism" for the most!

And there is something to think about: after the collapse of the Soviet Union, today's Russia was given only thirty years to have less than half of its population in Russia. And twenty of these thirty years have passed!
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 23 June 2012 07: 24
    +8
    Well, rewrite 2011 of the year I would not trust. What kind of nationality people did not write. Alien, Troll, orc complete dibilism. But actually this trend is not only in Russia. Europe, the United States everywhere such garbage.
    1. Korvin
      Korvin 23 June 2012 18: 20
      +7
      None of my friends, relatives, acquaintances, work colleagues saw in the eyes of the census tellers ... such a funny census ((((In the election, 60 percent of people standing in a queue were not on the lists and were sent to defend another turn for non-existent, apparently according to the results of just that census ...
      1. Dmitry23RUS
        Dmitry23RUS 24 June 2012 11: 25
        +3
        All my relatives friends and acquaintances participated in the census.
        Maybe you do not live in Russia? Because they did not see the census takers? wink

        And if on the topic, I will soon have a first-born, my two elder brothers have three children, my sister will have a fourth soon. smile

        I will also say my opinion, the article is saturated with hatred of the so-called non-Russian am .

        I indicated in the census that I was Russian, but in fact, if I delve into my ancestors, then on my father’s side I’m half Norwegian, half Japanese, and my mother’s Tatars and Persian. belay
        These are the things, but I'm Russian. winked
        And by the way, pretty cute tongue
        And all my brothers and sisters are such a purely Russian by blood in Russia it will be almost impossible to find.
        And here's another note for you, I'm from Krasnodar, I don’t know how things are in this regard in most other cities of Russia, but we have ALL, absolutely ALL Maternity Centers! And there are a lot of children, there are not enough kindergartens, although since the times of the USSR there have been almost twice as many of them in Krasnodar. Here is such a Demographic BOOM!

        And mostly old people, sick people, and alcoholics die.
        If such people in Russia die more than a year than children are born, this is certainly sad, but somehow, humanity has been living these hundreds of thousands of years. And by the way, the fact that the Chinese and others come to the country is not so bad, because if they come, they have a place to work here, if they find jobs here so easily, then they need workers, if they need workers, but Russians don’t If they want to work on such work, then the migration of human labor resources to us is justified.

        Do you hate Tajiks who build houses, clean streets, and do everything that a Russian person does * zapadlo *, then you either lag behind life or want to live with money, but in a pigsty? That’s why migrants are needed, for a penny, to put it mildly, they wipe your ass. if you yourself are not capable of it.
        I can bet that here on this site no one wants to work as a janitor, someone is a military man, someone works for someone, I have my own business. But behind us, we must clean up and do what we do not want.
        And migrant families also need to be fed.
        And if they then rise through life, hold on to relatives and help each other, then this is vice versa good. These are strong families, without the nasty European licentiousness and inferiority. Sometimes we need to learn a lot from those we despise, and then our MULTIPLICATION society will be friendly and strong. good
        1. Korvin
          Korvin 24 June 2012 13: 43
          +5
          I live in the glorious city on the Neva, as you can guess from my previous posts. For such a census, our former governor Matvienko should be thanked. And there is no need to whine about the fact that the Russians are completely snickering who do not want to work as street cleaners, it’s like to carry employers who are FAVORABLE to recruit emigrants who can to pay a penny instead of employment under the law and decent pay to employees. So that all his relatives will crawl into a matter that they illegally send in a year later, and if some Russian tries to get into them in teams then they will instantly survive as a stranger; they don’t care if they would only have to fill their pocket tighter and the less you pay a guest worker, the more the employer gets.
        2. Nick
          Nick 24 June 2012 14: 10
          +2
          Quote: Dmitry23RUS
          And all my brothers and sisters are such a purely Russian by blood in Russia it will be almost impossible to find.

          The Russian people were formed on a substrate consisting of many, many peoples, mainly Eastern Slavs, with the presence of Karelofin tribes, Polovtsy, Bulgars, and others. Russians are superethnos and this is an advantage. But the problem is that current migrants have ceased to assimilate. They create their own clans, inside of which they retain their customs, traditions, religion, ignoring the Russian ones. In this, I see the main problem created by migration. This problem must be dealt with. It is urgent to take measures to assimilate migrants, and to displace those who cannot be replaced. And of course, by all possible methods, stimulate fertility growth in Russian regions.
          1. Dmitry23RUS
            Dmitry23RUS 24 June 2012 18: 39
            +3
            It is the Russians who are disgusted by European culture, and seeing what young Russian girls go about, how guys and young people behave in general, any sane person will want to isolate his family from this abomination! then they ceased to assimilate, although before there were no such problems.
            1. Nick
              Nick 24 June 2012 19: 16
              0
              Cool you Dmitry, European culture made. It is not a European culture that acts like that, but a mass culture born of a society of consumption, terry individualism, glamor and, so-called, democracy.
              By the way, in my opinion, our "beloletochniki" advocate just such a model of society. Fortunately, the bulk of Russians, as previous events have shown, actively oppose this model. Therefore, it is inappropriate to smear all Russians with one paint. And migrants who do not want to assimilate are harshly expelled, squeezed out, regardless of the reasons for their reluctance. There is nothing in a strange monastery with its own charter ...
              1. Dmitry23RUS
                Dmitry23RUS 24 June 2012 23: 09
                +2
                Actually, I didn’t write that for all Russians, but for most young people.
  2. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 23 June 2012 07: 25
    +9
    It is necessary to accept migrants in small batches, so that cultural assimilation takes place successfully. Yes, and it's time to switch to national domestic politics.
    Raising the standard of living of ordinary citizens (about 5-7 times) is the key to increasing the birth rate.
    1. wk
      wk 23 June 2012 08: 01
      +6
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Raising the standard of living of ordinary citizens (about 5-7 times) is the key to increasing the birth rate.

      complete nonsense ... there is a rich Western Europe with negative dynamics (a little more than 1 child per family) and a wealthy USA with a positive .... (3-4 children per family) standard of living is not about that! in eastern and southeastern Europe, the standard of living does not affect fertility in any way!





      1. Korvin
        Korvin 23 June 2012 18: 28
        +8
        But the most large countries with the poorest people are truly so. The generally recognized extinction of the white population is not to blame for the standard of living, but for liberal democratic values ​​that promote a consumer parasitic lifestyle, drug addiction, sexual perversions and sexual licentiousness that are mistaken for individual freedom, but universal rather ready to die out like dinosaurs than admit it.
        1. Dmitry23RUS
          Dmitry23RUS 24 June 2012 11: 32
          +5
          That's why I despise the European and lifestyle. We are Russians, we are Asians, Western traditions and their way of life are alien to us, but we have been forcibly hammered it for more than twenty years, and especially the weak ones are corrupted.
        2. Nick
          Nick 24 June 2012 14: 41
          +4
          Quote: KORVIN
          But the most large countries with the poorest people, truly so

          It is not paradoxical, but it is the extremely low level of social protection of the population by the state that stimulates high fertility. In countries where there is no pension system, the only hope for a decent life in old age is children who are raised in respect for the elders and are obliged to support their x elderly parents. China is an example, and India, too.
          We can also use a similar effect to increase the birth rate of Russians. I do not call for the abolition of pensions; on the contrary, substantial allowances must be made for pensions for each born and raised child. This will help young parents make the choice of having more children.
  3. Drugar
    Drugar 23 June 2012 07: 44
    +1
    Russia is rapidly dispersing! Really for 12 years of his stay in the highest posts of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin did not understand this ?!

    Putin spit on Russia and ordinary Russian citizens, didn’t we all understand this for 12 years of Putin’s tenure?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 June 2012 08: 00
      12
      And who did not spit? Sobchak, Alekseev, Germans, McFaul, daredevils, anal, chirikov? Which of these pseudo-patriots should be at the helm? But Berozovsky understood, that is, you. Borya why cipher like the weather in London, you probably miss. Summer is already, and you promised to come to Russia in the spring to sit. Waiting, waiting.
      1. Drugar
        Drugar 23 June 2012 09: 29
        -8
        1) Enough to translate the arrows, judge by the fact: neither Nemtsov nor Sobchak at the main posts in Russia (which really could have influenced something in the country), so there was nothing for YOU to cover except for the stupid clownery.
        2) You do not seriously think that if you pronounce the phimilias of oppositionists and fighters against Putin's power in the context of "MACFOL, Chikatilo or Satan", everyone will immediately believe that they are interconnected?
        3) Trying to denigrate your opponent when there is nothing to cover ... Moveton ...
        All three positions are cheap propaganda tricks.
        Tediousness of the highest category!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 23 June 2012 09: 57
          16
          Listen to the student before they write that the Germans were not in a leadership position, take it and stupidly study his biography. What did his work lead to and how many bloggers didn’t become paupers to Nemtsov and his team in Russia. Thanks to Nemtsov, I became a beggar! And thanks to Putin, I’m not ashamed to come home, as was the case with the Germans. Under Nemtsov, I had nothing to feed my family with.
          1. Drugar
            Drugar 23 June 2012 10: 33
            -9
            In addition to natural tediousness, you have a strange manner during a conversation to address a certain "Schoolboy" ... A fictitious friend is a sign of mental instability, but nothing, nothing, don't be afraid, I won't offend you.
            Yes, there were amazing times in Russia, the one and only Nemtsov in power, the emperor of all Russia ... or, wait, there were a lot of people besides him, wasn’t he .... He was certainly not the president.
            1. Sakhalininsk
              Sakhalininsk 23 June 2012 16: 00
              12
              And how Borya Nemtsov can steers, you can look at the example of Nizhny Novgorod. The fact that this curly-haired gruendel did during his tenure as governor is enough for 300 years of hanging through execution. Everything else screaming at overseas money infringed on ordinary shaitan grannies only for large sums, will not give them money in six months about them and will forget to think like a mirage.
        2. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 24 June 2012 06: 27
          0
          Quote: Drugar
          neither Nemtsov nor Sobchak at the main posts in Russia (which could really influence something in the country)

          HA! HA! HA! Sobchak! laughing laughing laughing fool Yes, this fool can only affect House-2! And then, if the producers allow!
          1. Dmitry23RUS
            Dmitry23RUS 24 June 2012 11: 35
            +2
            Millions have been confiscated, and without a dog’s common fund they won’t do anything, even a couple of tens of thousands of marginals came to their March of Millions.
            These are the way these patriots. I wonder what they were going to change in our country and where finally got out?
      2. Dmitry23RUS
        Dmitry23RUS 24 June 2012 11: 30
        -1

        *************
        Alexander Romanov (3) Yesterday, 08:00
        And who did not spit? Sobchak, Alekseev, Germans, McFaul, daredevils, an
        1. Evgen2509
          Evgen2509 25 June 2012 16: 39
          0
          Ryzhkov forgot)))
    2. Curculum
      Curculum 23 June 2012 14: 39
      +3
      Quote: Drugar
      Putin spit on Russia and ordinary Russian citizens, didn’t we all understand this for 12 years of Putin’s tenure?

      Your suggestion? Who should be elected president of the Russian Federation? And please, the achievements of this candidate in the past.
      1. Drugar
        Drugar 23 June 2012 15: 44
        -7
        You probably think you asked the same question, to which your opponents never have an answer .... Yeah, it would seem a hopeless situation, but ....
        Can I ask a question for a start? Please name Achievement of Putin's candidate IN THE PAST Yes, yes, when he did not have billions of state and a huge repressive machine, when all the TV channels of our country did not work for him, when he could not vyak "I will raise pensions to everyone!" and, Hop !, from the STATE BUDGET of 100 RUBLES ... And it looks like a cheap populist paid out of his own pocket.
        1. Curculum
          Curculum 23 June 2012 16: 01
          +3
          Quote: Drugar
          Can I ask a question for a start? Please name the achievement of candidate Putin IN THE PAST

          Odessa habit?
          Do you give economic indicators of the Russian Federation in the period 2001-2008 compared with the period 1991-1999? Maybe you find it yourself?
          If you mean his successes until the first presidency, then track his biography - a lot of interesting and informative things, especially his premiership at EBN.
          1. Drugar
            Drugar 23 June 2012 18: 43
            -8
            Again this demagoguery ...
            Why compare the current situation with the one when everything was bad, it reminds a girl who is looking for a more terrible girlfriend in order to look better against her background.
            To compare the period of a complete change in the political system and the economic model of a huge state, in fact anarchy and anarchy, with the times of more or less established economic relations is possible only with the aim of reinforcing the pro-Putin ideology.
            Let's better compare with the economic and social situation in developed countries. Or that all desire to equalize has disappeared?
            1. Curculum
              Curculum 23 June 2012 22: 08
              +3
              Quote: Drugar
              Again this demagoguery

              For you, the digital indicators of state development - demagogy?
              If for you the measure of state development is an analogue of the relationship of female girlfriends, then I pass, it’s not for me.
              Quote: Drugar
              To compare the period of a complete change in the political system and the economic model of a huge state, in fact anarchy and anarchy, with the times of more or less established economic relations is possible only with the aim of reinforcing the pro-Putin ideology.

              I asked you a specific question, you left him in the Odessa style, and started a polemic about your question - this is demagogy.
              Quote: Drugar
              Let's better compare with the economic and social situation in developed countries. Or that all desire to equalize has disappeared?

              So also not a question, let’s, with what specific data do you propose to start?
            2. Evgen2509
              Evgen2509 25 June 2012 16: 45
              0
              Why compare the current situation with the one when everything was bad

              So if the "situation" is "bad," then your Nemtsovysobchakryzhkovs would not have been able to do anything, why then in general, the government, let the "situation" be the president, ahah.
              Or maybe people determine and change the surrounding reality, and not she them? Correct if I'm wrong ...
      2. Pessimist
        Pessimist 24 June 2012 00: 05
        -3
        Quote: Kurkul
        Your suggestion?

        Vovan Zhirinovsky! Or is he a clown? But I wonder if Saakashvili would have dared to attack South Ossetia with "Zhirik"?
        1. Curculum
          Curculum 24 June 2012 00: 14
          0
          Quote: Pessimist
          Vovan Zhirinovsky! Or is he a clown?

          So you yourself categorically doubt why to check me?
          Quote: Pessimist
          But I wonder if Saakashvili would have dared to attack South Ossetia with "Zhirik"?

          The answer to this question depends on the time of the Zhirik's presidency, which, in turn, would affect the territoriality of the Russian Federation (downward).
  4. nokki
    nokki 23 June 2012 07: 44
    +8
    Russia is not only dying out, but also degrading physically and spiritually. "Reforms" in education and healthcare led to disaster. More than half of today's young people are illiterate, intoxicated and aggressive plankton, suffering from chronic diseases since childhood. They are aggressive not only towards the people around them, but also towards the army, religion, family values, ecology.
    1. Ross
      Ross 23 June 2012 08: 16
      10
      nokki,
      This science is called degradation. Alas. This is what the policy of our Western "friends" is aimed at.
      1. Patriot of Russia
        Patriot of Russia 23 June 2012 08: 51
        0
        Ross, and our Kremlin "brothers"
  5. Cadet787
    Cadet787 23 June 2012 09: 59
    +3
    The oligarchs need to remember firmly that if they do not support the Russian ethnic group in the country, then the Chinese will come and take everything away, take their capital to the grave.
    1. lcalex
      lcalex 23 June 2012 16: 10
      0
      Quote: Cadet787
      The oligarchs need to remember firmly that if they do not support the Russian ethnic group in the country, then the Chinese will come and take everything away, take their capital to the grave.


      Interesting koment. Non-standard. Bravo! good

      If they do not care about Russians purely human, then let them think about their wallets smile
      1. Korvin
        Korvin 23 June 2012 18: 36
        +5
        The hedgehog was frightened ... all their capital has long been abroad under the protection of NATO missiles. Like their children. They themselves probably would have dumped there with pleasure, but we must keep an eye on us so that we pump our OIL for gas and oil (((
      2. Nick
        Nick 24 June 2012 19: 27
        +1
        Quote: lcalex
        If they do not care about Russians purely human, then let them think about their wallets

        The shroud has no pockets ...
    2. Nick
      Nick 24 June 2012 19: 25
      +1
      Quote: Cadet787
      take your capital to the grave.

      Well this is unlikely, Cadet. Naked came to this world, naked and will leave it. The only question is the timing ...
  6. VEKT
    VEKT 23 June 2012 10: 09
    +4
    This study does not take into account such a moment as internal migration, from the central regions people are "pumped out" by Moscow, and from the northwestern ones by St. Petersburg.
    1. Pessimist
      Pessimist 24 June 2012 00: 08
      +1
      Quote: VEKT
      Moscow is pumping people out of the central regions, and St. Petersburg from the northwestern regions.

      And, what, the number of Russians in Moscow has increased significantly compared to the "Caucasus" and "Central Asia" ???
  7. lorvig
    lorvig 23 June 2012 11: 11
    0
    It’s sad and alarming statistics, it’s silly to blame Putin or the ruling party. You can’t be indifferent to this trend, the Air Force showed a film about it, but I didn’t believe it, I watched the documentary shots of Moscow streets in the 60s and now - the face of the nation has changed to non-Russian side, a lot of women are leaving the country, Russian women’s agencies are everywhere in Europe. European dating sites are teeming with Russian virgins wishing to leave Russia, and there’s not a single agency where Europeans are invited to marry a Russian or a dating site wherever Europe Menus wanted to go to Rossiyu.Eto fakty.A in the instructions for release of hostages indicates that women save 1- 2 children. Women are always the first. and here is such an outflow. Maybe there should be a feeling of all-Russian national danger?
  8. Oleg0705
    Oleg0705 23 June 2012 11: 16
    +3
    Speech by Vladimir Zhirinovsky at a meeting of the State Duma on 20.06.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVRG_Y85ja8&feature=related
  9. darkman70
    darkman70 23 June 2012 11: 25
    +6
    Good article, albeit sad.
    For my part, I would like to add that the extinction of the Russian regions of central Russia is largely due to the outflow of youth to economically developed regions and, as a result, the aging of the population. Since the 70-ies, Russian regions were funded on a residual basis, which led to the beginning of their economic and social degradation. At the same time, huge funds were invested in the development of nat. republics. In fact, Chisinau, Bishkek (Frunze), Ashgabat, Dushanbe, and others were built from scratch, in which Academies of Sciences, Universities, and a lot of high-tech industries were built to the detriment of the Russian regions, which, in the absence of local personnel, caused the relocation of specialists from the central Of Russia. In the 70's, my ancestors moved to Chisinau from the Tambov region. Where is Chisinau now and where is Tambov. What was built in Tambov during this time, and what is in Chisinau? The quality of life in the central Russian regions compared with the republics and Moscow was worse at times. As a result, the active part of the population of these regions migrated either to the privileged Moscow and St. Petersburg or to the construction of the nat. republics. The population decline there began back in the 70 years. In the new Russia, however, the situation has worsened. It seems that the country's leadership generally put an end to these regions. It would be logical to return the Russian population there from the former republics and develop the economy and social sphere there. But ... nothing of this is being done, and this is not necessary to mine this government either. There is not a single project that could keep the population there. It comes to the ridiculous. In Novgorod and the Pskov region, which are unfavorable for agriculture, they decided to develop agriculture (!!!) and to attract immigrants from the CIS for this. In the village, where there were only huts on chicken legs and ancient old people, there are no living conditions and infrastructure and the salary of 7-8 thousand rubles. Moreover, it is clear to everyone who is interested in the issue that Russians in the CIS republics live mainly in cities, and in large ones. Naturally, the Russians do not go there, but Tajiks and Uzbeks, who receive citizenship as compatriots, go, and on the website of the Federal Migration Service for some reason they proudly note in one of the reports that the children in the Russian villages became mostly black-headed.
    As for non-Russian migrants, not everything is as simple as written in the article. Most of those who entered nevertheless earned the nth amount of money returned to their homeland. Moreover, most of the migrant workers who do not have a work permit are forced to leave Russia every three months.
  10. Kaa
    Kaa 23 June 2012 11: 55
    +9
    Demography depends on many factors 1) Finances, after all, if a woman wants, let her take care of children first of all, and for work - if by nature she wants to make a career, well, to communicate with people, switch. To do this, a man must EARN, and not steal and not gesheft 2) A cult of consumption is being introduced in Europe - "you need to live for yourself, but children interfere" - in America, look at the sweet couple of Brad Pitt and Jolie - how many have they adopted there? There should be enough money in the family and Americans like to hire Filipinos, Mexican women for a housekeeper - for this we need not migrant workers, but migrant workers. And it is time for our oligarchy to stop feeding people with tales that our labor productivity is several times less than in the West, therefore, they say, and small salaries can better seize less and feed the office plankton? 3) Young people need to be introduced into their consciousness not contraceptives, but the idea: children are cool! But for this it is necessary to reorient many of our media outlets from Western values ​​to truly universal ones - first of all - "SEVEN ME" - dad, mom and 5 children. Then no migration is scary - let them go and help build, not steal!
    1. darkman70
      darkman70 23 June 2012 12: 21
      +8
      Everything is correct. One "but". This is clear to you, it is clear to me, it is clear to everyone who has even the slightest interest in this issue. It seems that this should be clear to the government as well. After all, they are not round idiots. But nothing is being done for this. Specially? Maternity capital is more like subsidizing the construction industry. Well, the fact that this very capital can also be spent on educating children generally looks wild in a country where, until recently, education was free.
    2. lcalex
      lcalex 23 June 2012 16: 13
      +3
      Kaa,
      Very well said! I think also +++
  11. Sinope
    Sinope 23 June 2012 15: 39
    +2
    It's time to ban abortion.
    It would be nice to introduce raster articles, not for those women who will go for an abortion, but for those "doctors" who dare to do it.
    If a woman does not want to bring up, then at least give birth and leave to the state.
    The state, in turn, must support such women donors financially. And also to build a network of orphanages, and nurseries with favorable conditions for the education of such children.
    1. lcalex
      lcalex 23 June 2012 16: 18
      +3
      Quote: Sinope
      If a woman does not want to bring up, then at least give birth and leave to the state.


      I support. +
      And then the orphanages to the Suvorov School or Nakhimovskoe.

      Of course, it is not good when a child has no parents.
      Nevertheless, he is alive and can have his children whom he will never abandon.
    2. darkman70
      darkman70 23 June 2012 16: 59
      +4
      As for the prohibitions on abortion, I agree. A drastic measure, but mine can’t do without it.
      1. Pessimist
        Pessimist 24 June 2012 00: 10
        +2
        And also sterilization for drug addicts and alcoholics, forced !!!
  12. valton
    valton 23 June 2012 15: 46
    +3
    The mere fact that the Russians in Russia do not want to be recognized as the TITLE NATION at the legislative level is suggestive. All over the world, in any country there is a titular nation and peoples living on its territory. And only in Russia it is stubbornly hushed up.
    It is clear that many will begin to explain this as the danger of ethnic strife and the like. But why in the same Germany or England where the Germans and British are the titular nation, and in other countries it is natural? And only in Russia is the Taboo.
    1. El13
      El13 23 June 2012 17: 37
      0
      Quote: valton
      But why in the same Germany or England where the Germans and British are the titular nation, and in other countries it is natural? And only in Russia is the Taboo.

      Yes, because we are OTHER, we have different values, we build relations with other countries differently than the same Europe or the states, and at home we also behave differently and this is our strength.
    2. Curculum
      Curculum 23 June 2012 17: 52
      +2
      Quote: valton
      All over the world, in any country there is a titular nation and peoples living on its territory. And only in Russia it is stubbornly hushed up.

      The concept of “titular nation” was first introduced by the famous French poet and politician of the nationalist trend Maurice Barres at the end of the XIX century. Barres understood by it the dominant ethnic group, whose language and culture became the basis for the state education system. Barres contrasted the titular nations with national minorities (representatives of the titular nation living outside its national state, for example, at that time - the French in Alsace and Lorraine) and ethnic diasporas (ethnic groups within the territory of the national state, for example, Jews and Armenians in France). Barres believed that a nation-state can be strong only if there are two conditions: national minorities and ethnic diasporas must remain loyal to the state of the titular nation, and the titular nation must support “their” national minorities abroad. Barres developed this classification during the Dreyfus affair.
      Quote: valton
      But why in the same Germany or England where the Germans and the British are the titular nation

      Do you know the difference between England and Great Britain? So, Great Britain is a country of Britons, a people completely disappeared from the face of the earth under the pressure of the Welsh, Scots, Normans, Irish, Saxons, Celts and all the rest.
      The basis for the formation of German Germans is: Alemanni, Bavarians, Franks, Saxons, Lombards, Markomanes, Goths, Germans, Swabians, Austrians.
      And which of them is "titular"?
      1. Pessimist
        Pessimist 24 June 2012 00: 15
        +1
        Quote: Kurkul
        The basis for the formation of German Germans is: Alemanni, Bavarians, Franks, Saxons, Lombards, Markomanes, Goths, Germans, Swabians, Austrians.
        And which of them is "titular"?

        The same can be said about the Russians: the basis of the meadow, northerners, Sloven, Radimichi, Vyatichi, Dregovichi, Drevlyans, Krivichi, etc.! Do not distort, dear! It's about nations, not about tribes that have merged into a nation! If you don’t have a clue about ethnogenesis, don’t get stuck with naive reasoning!
        1. Curculum
          Curculum 24 June 2012 00: 28
          +2
          Quote: Pessimist
          It's about nations, not about tribes merged into a nation

          Duc educate, for example, what is the "titular nation" in Switzerland, the USA or Australia? Maybe it is better to understand the question of what the term "nation" means, and then sculpt adjectives to it?
  13. apro
    apro 23 June 2012 15: 48
    +1
    What kind of pop is this and what kind of parish does the people have and their number and quality. Today people don’t want to strain to take responsibility are not entirely sure about the future and real incomes do not allow us to look confidently into the future that all recipes are known but that they to fulfill those who hold power there is no will and no strength to convince society of confidence in these actions. New ideas of understanding of the world and relationships in our society are needed.
  14. valton
    valton 23 June 2012 15: 51
    0
    The mere fact that the Russians in Russia do not want to be recognized as the TITLE NATION at the legislative level is suggestive. All over the world, in any country there is a titular nation and peoples living on its territory. And only in Russia it is stubbornly hushed up.
    It is clear that many will begin to explain this as the danger of ethnic strife and the like. But why in the same Germany or England where the Germans and British are the titular nation, and in other countries it is natural? And only in Russia is the Taboo.
  15. 11Goor11
    11Goor11 23 June 2012 17: 22
    +1
    It seemed to me alone that this seater somehow too freely operates with numbers? "let's say there were so many millions this year "and"in my opinion the population of the Russian Federation is not 143 million but 180 and 80 of them are not Russian nationality based on this we conclude..."
    This is some kind of dohtur - professor of super-duper science.
    If we squeeze all the digits sucked from the finger in the remainder, we get: "Based on my brilliant opinion, I conclude that we all will die! Please blame Putin !!!"
    The author himself is at least something practical made for positive population growth?
    Is the government guilty again?
    Here, I personally have two children, my brother-in-law has six (the hero is unambiguous), and the Ukrainian standard of living (lower than in Russia) did not bother us.
    But the author, accusing "short-sighted Putin, who does not see the problem, unlike the brilliant scribe," modestly kept silent that the standard of living in Russia rises when in other countries it goes down.
    Peysatel - a provocateur
    1. Pessimist
      Pessimist 24 June 2012 00: 26
      +4
      Quote: 11Goor11
      Did the author himself do anything practical for positive population growth?

      At least he is not silent about it! Or do you not see how many "Asians" have become around over the past six years ??? I'm VERY good in Krasnodar and I see it without numbers !!! And not local Adyghe, namely Tajiks and Uzbeks became a dime a dozen in the city! Especially on the outskirts, there is a general feeling that you live in SAMarkand !!! ...
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 24 June 2012 14: 39
        0
        Quote: Pessimist
        Especially in the outskirts there is a general feeling that you live in SAMarkand !!! ...

        Yes, they mainly work in construction sites in Krasnodar! By the way, because of them, crime jumped up!
  16. Korvin
    Korvin 23 June 2012 18: 41
    +4
    Well, what can I say ... soon it will be like Arkady Gaidar only with the amendment: -... and there are no rifles, no one to shoot ... hey, get up! And he answered from every house: ..... ((((
  17. black cat
    black cat 23 June 2012 18: 54
    -1
    Quote: lorvig
    Sad and disturbing statistics, blaming Putin or the ruling party is stupid.

    And do not blame-- to be an accomplice in the destruction of the Russian people. Do not be scared and life will get better ..
    1. 11Goor11
      11Goor11 24 June 2012 16: 42
      0
      Do not talk nonsense, but positively increase the population wassat
  18. Yaik Cossack
    Yaik Cossack 23 June 2012 20: 35
    +9
    When I listen to people who are looking for a thousand reasons why it's so bad, instead of starting to solve problems, I wonder. I am 33 years old, my wife is 31 years old, we have three children. God will give more. When they talk about difficulties, I recall my grandmother, who lost her first child in the so-called famine in the Urals, and in 1941 she was left with four children in her arms. I went to work in the field like the others, there were no benefits for the children, and the children held onto the hem in one piece at a time. Grandfather returned only in 1947. After the war, they gave birth to six more. Instead of reasoning, tell each of you how many children? By the way, my older sister has five.

    We must turn to the faith of fathers and grandfathers.

  19. Odinplys
    Odinplys 24 June 2012 00: 51
    +2
    Quote: Yaitsky Cossack
    We must turn to the faith of fathers and grandfathers.


    Exactly...
    Separated from the earth ... all to the cities ... for a sweet life ... and the zemlyatka she will feed and repose everyone ...
    Chatting is not loading bags ... you need to return to the land-nurse ... yes to the faith of grandfather ...
    Over-democratized ... snickering ...
    1. mind1954
      mind1954 24 June 2012 01: 52
      +1
      Sorry Dear, and who are you to this steward under the current regime
      will let ??? I also can not resist, and throw my stone!

      Apparently, the time has come for truth and it’s time to ask the fascist regime in our country a question,
      to which I can’t find an answer for a long time.
      It’s no longer a secret that throughout the country, the police, which the regime turned into the Gestapo,
      they grab ordinary citizens and torture them, often to death, just to
      close an unsolved crime and improve performance in reporting.
      Having done, self-talk - recognition, queen of evidence.

      Well, just like in the days of Vyshinsky! But the logic of those events, in any case, is clear.
      The civil war continued, there was a struggle for power between social strata
      ruling class under various pretexts.
      The party apparatus defeated the administrative, fortunately for the country!
      Because, what led to the seizure of power by the administrative apparatus
      in the late 50s, we feel on our own skin!

      Criminals are arrested at the crime scene. And with the victims, walking around in the TV camera,
      they deny everything, weave all kinds of fables brazenly and insultingly, blaming themselves for everything
      victims.
      We came up with some kind of cooperation with the investigating authorities for bandits, accomplices
      crimes, on the basis of which they are punished with fines or conditional sentences,
      arguing that without them nothing would have been possible to prove and reveal!?
      The same was applied to thieves, embezzlers, extortionists, bribe takers and
      other corrupt garbage!?
      They refuse to introduce property confiscation on the pretext that
      that it is difficult to identify and find, or among relatives, or, often, abroad!?
      Introduced some fines, ridiculous and, absolutely, subjective!?

      And every time you hear about these "exploits", the question arises:
      AND WHY DON'T ATTEMPT THESE ??? !!! THIS IS WHAT A CONSEQUENCE OF CLASS CLASSES ??? !!!
  20. Messerschmitt
    Messerschmitt 24 June 2012 02: 51
    +2
    From our region there is an annual outflow of population. Partially replenished by migrants from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etc. In Russia, officially announced the number of people leaving for permanent residence abroad last year - 140 people!
    In general, who will build the bright future of capitalism is unknown! smile

    = mind1954] Sorry Dear, and who are you to this steward under the current regime
    will let ??? I also can not resist, and throw my stone!

    Exactly . In the country, thousands of hectares of unused land, but even a hundred hell who will give to use!


    = mind1954] And every time you hear about these "exploits", the question arises:
    AND WHY DON'T ATTEMPT THESE ??? !!! THIS IS WHAT A CONSEQUENCE OF CLASS CLASSES ??? !!!

    The raven will not peck out the crow! smile
  21. nycsson
    nycsson 24 June 2012 14: 47
    +3
    I read the article! I agree with everything, except that in Russia the population of 180 millions! This news is a curiosity for me! I myself come from the Voronezh region! There we just have a tin! All young people seek to leave the villages in the regional centers, and from the regional centers to Voronezh! In the villages, general alcoholism, drug addiction, etc. Agriculture is completely ruined, although we have black soil there, stick a stick, it will sprout! And now these fields are overgrown with weeds! There used to be collective farms and state farms, and now private farmers are farmers, and even then, just two, and it got too big! In short, unemployment is rampant in the villages! People live in that they have large gardens, they grow potatoes, etc., and then sell in bulk! That's it!
  22. Press
    Press 24 June 2012 15: 37
    +4
    The strongest survive. A lot of things are arranged in the country so that the Rus ceases to exist. I myself am 5/8 Slav (Siberians, Muscovites, Ukrainian Cossacks), 1/8 Persians, 1/8 Lezgin, 1/8 Chinese. I do not see any problem for the country in foreigners, but only patriots with a Russian mentality. It would be comfortable for me to live in a country with 80% Slavs. In small percentage amounts, foreign blood improves the nation, in case of good assimilation, but only if it is a healthy and high-quality infusion. In my opinion, the Russians are dying for the following reasons: 1) The media owned by the Jews, the owners of Western TNCs, are promoting anti-family - liberal values, there is no need to shout about anti-symmetry, I have nothing against the Jews, except for those who are fascists and imagined themselves to be arbiters of fate. 2) With prosperity in Russia, it’s good in terms of demography, justified: there are countries with a large% of the poor, where the filthy paw of liberals with Western values ​​has not completely climbed up, where there is a high birth rate: almost all of Africa, India, China, some Middle Eastern countries, etc. . They do not buy a car on credit, but give birth to assistants. 3) the nation is drunk, not because of hopelessness and low salaries, but because of the small: drinking beer with the guys is fashionable from a young age, because when drunk everyone immediately becomes heroes and less complex (imposed by media, advertising and paid historians: such as that the Rus has been drunk from time immemorial), those who don’t drink are ridiculed, considered non-companionable. How the drunken conception of children affects the health of the nation has been proven by a large number of scientific works, and what kind of woman wants to be the wife of a "moderate" alcoholic and give birth to children from him. Ethanol in all respects is a drug 4) the disappearance of a prosperous village, and this cannot be in a country where agricultural crops are ruined and it is fun and fashionable to live in the city. 5) an unfair pension system: since you have a pension, you don’t need many children, as in tsarist Russia it was to ensure old age. We need a pension system, when% of children's salaries is paid, then parents will be interested in raising successful children. Make a payment from the salaries of 4 children of Slavic parents and 2 children of non-Slavs. The pension system is a scam no better than mmm, since the pyramid, it is more profitable for officials to let people die early, then you don’t have to pay. Not my idea, there is a site where it is proved that in the West, where a high pension, birth rates began to fall with the introduction of pensions. 6) abortion is the killing of people. To remove abortion is a sin from the souls of our people and the birth rate will exceed mortality. Abortion only with rape and the presence of dangerous diseases for the gene pool. The issue of supporting children is resolved through the pension system, in which the orphanages are empty, since people will be paid 15-20% of the salaries of children, by the way the black salary will disappear and there will be more taxes. 7) morality needs to be improved, a person is subject to the laws of telegony like animals. It is not for nothing that in some places in the Middle East, only a husband deprives girls of their virginity, and women cannot marry foreigners, for example, the UAE. "Laws of Rita" exist and because of this the Slavs will die out like all white people, Germany and France as an example to you. The list goes on and on. I am not a Russophobe or a nationalist, I respect good people regardless of the nation, but I am more comfortable being surrounded by people with a Russian mentality. Let's raise the country from its knees together, regardless of the nation, but we need a state-forming nation and an idea, otherwise there will be "swan, cancer and pike", we don't have to go far: Yugoslavia is your example, Kurdistan is looming on the horizon. What do you need? Love the country, respect each other, do not drink or smoke, play sports, see clearly and help others do it.
  23. supervisor
    supervisor 24 June 2012 16: 19
    +2
    Everything is going according to plan. According to the Western plan. With the coming to power of the West's protégé, Gorbachev, and then the same Yeltsin and again the same Putin, the country and the Russian people are purposefully destroyed. They destroyed all the industrial base, science, education. Kampashka saddled the gas and the oil pipe, all the nascent political processes were destroyed in the bud, leaving only clowns on the stage. Money is being driven over the hill. And to maintain the image of "caring and defending the interests of Russia" husbands from time to time arrange a verbal skirmish with their Western masters and with might and main brainwashed our population I read the reviews and am amazed that it turns out that many people like the current state of affairs, when an ordinary citizen has no real rights, where instead of the law, the principle “everything is bought,” where in the worst case an official will be demoted for a bribe or theft. bathing in money is simply amazing! There are no other successes, alas! And no need to tell how shitty lived under Soviet rule, we still exist on the infrastructure that was created by our fathers and grandfathers.
  24. taseka
    taseka 24 June 2012 19: 39
    0
    Beginning with 1993, the Russian people are dying out by 1 million per year. But, as we see, there is good reason to expect that in 2015-2020 years, the extinction of the Russian people will reach 2 million per year!
  25. Press
    Press 24 June 2012 20: 41
    +1
    We need a popular plan and a unifying propiarine idea for a nation, which everyone will pick up, i.e. a change in the situation in the country from below, since the upper ones do not want to.
  26. Goga
    Goga 24 June 2012 20: 52
    +1
    Colleagues, written about 150 years ago -

    A.K. Tolstoy

    Gifting quite abundantly
    Our land, king of heaven
    Be rich and strong
    He ordered her everywhere.

    But so that villages fall,
    So that the fields are empty -
    Bless you
    The king of heaven hardly gave!

    We are careless, we are lazy
    Everything falls from our hands
    And besides, we are patient -
    There is nothing to boast about!

    So many years have passed, but as if written yesterday ... winked
  27. khoma nickson
    khoma nickson 24 June 2012 23: 36
    +2
    In the 80s we lost our "controlling stake" in the USSR, now we can lose it in Russia as well. In my opinion, uncontrolled, unrestrained migration from Asia, combined with the extinction and degradation of Russians, is worse for the country than all NATO, European missile defense and American weapons programs combined. Whoever wants to travel, without visas, without sensible accounting and control, without any analysis of the actual needs for labor, without any stimulation of internal migration. If in Europe migrants from the East get from a non-legal state to a legal one with working laws, police, courts, with the titular nation in all dominant positions, then in our country they end up in the same non-legal state, where they are like a fish in water. It is our Vanya from the provinces to teach how, to whom and how much to bring, and our guests will teach whoever you want. Prices on the labor market are falling, opportunities for the local population are narrowing, crime is growing, closed ethnocultural enclaves appear, seizing many profitable areas - carriage, trade, consumer services, etc. This is beneficial only to a narrow circle of entrepreneurs and corrupt officials of the same FMS. If uncontrolled migration is not brought to an end in the coming years, this could lead to great troubles for Russia and its indigenous population. Another ruble will sink, imports and construction will decrease, and what to do with the huge mass of migrants left without work and money ?! In the dashing 90s, there were not so many of them here: no construction projects, no huge markets full of imports, no extra money, no such corruption. Showered and cleaned their own. And there is no need for fairy tales that without such a wave of visitors we will perish. An increase in labor productivity by a couple of percent will immediately sharply reduce the need for visitors. Why raise it if it is cheaper to hire a dozen guest workers? Remember Marx about the displacement of man by machine.
    The second question is about the birth rate of Russians. There is only "saving the people" as a national idea and rejection of everything that hinders this. Even from Syria and weapons worth 20 trillion, otherwise they will have no one to protect. The past cannot be brought back, but the future can still be corrected.
  28. tanit
    tanit April 14 2020 14: 49
    0
    There are many questions. Why do people who are in words for all the good do nothing?
    How - but easy.
    Half of the Quasicommunist Party of the Russian Federation are very wealthy. The second half - parasites (there was such an article in the Criminal Code of the USSR) Let the first half hire the second half to sew masks. Let volunteers be appointed or called upon. Have volunteers give out masks for free. Let the volunteers do the Party tests at the party expense.
    Let VO write about it.
    Do it. Do not howl.
    And then people will be for you.