The President of Kazakhstan commented on the transition to writing in Latin

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The President of Kazakhstan, Kasym-Zhomart Tokayev, commented on the transition of the Kazakh script to the Latin alphabet. According to him, the transition process will take place in stages.



Tokayev said that most of the neighboring countries chose the Latin schedule, and in order to keep up with the dictates of the times, Kazakhstan does the same. About 90% of all information in the world is published in Latin, thus, the transition will contribute to the development of technology and science. He also called this initiative one of the main stages of the spiritual modernization of the country.

Tokayev stressed that at the moment a number of public organizations in Kazakhstan are already using the Latin script in their work. One of these organizations is the republican newspaper “Egemen Kazakhstan”, in which already one of the pages is published in Latin.

The transition of the Kazakh language to the Latin script will be carried out in stages. There is a well-defined schedule. And we will not retreat from it. But public opinion, benefits and omissions will also be taken into account when applying the alphabet.

- noted the head of Kazakhstan.

Recall that in the autumn of 2017 of the year, Nursultan Nazarbayev, the former president of Kazakhstan, signed a decree translating the Kazakh alphabet to the Latin script before the 2025 of the year. At the same time, a new alphabet was approved, consisting of 32 letters, in which 9 letters were with apostrophes. However, this decision was later criticized by Kazakhstani linguists, since this could make it difficult to write and read, as well as search the Internet. Therefore, in February last year, a new alphabet of 32 letters was approved, but without apostrophes.
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    1. +17
      April 3 2019 13: 04
      The unfortunate Japanese will overwhelm their Kazakhs with their technology.)
      1. +48
        April 3 2019 13: 40
        . Tokaev said that most of the neighboring countries chose the Latin script, and in order to keep up with the dictates of the time

        We would go straight to English, because most of the countries speak it. Tokayev demonstrates the psychology of savages who adopt everything "progressive" from the colonialists. In his eyes, the Cyrillic alphabet is no longer progressive enough and does not contribute to the development of technology. I wonder where this monkey was dug up?
        1. +4
          April 3 2019 14: 27
          "I wonder where this monkey was dug up?" (from)
          At MGIMO
          1. +12
            April 3 2019 14: 41
            Quote: Rusfaner
            At MGIMO

            I hope MGIMO is burning with shame for a graduate. It is unlikely that they teach that Cyrillic does not allow for the development of technology, as the Latin does. This figure was picked up by this figure clearly in another place.
            From the article, Tokaev:
            Transition will foster technology and science
            1. +10
              April 3 2019 15: 23
              Ksyusha instantly finished. I think - there they are all - the offspring of the elite.
              1. +16
                April 3 2019 15: 47
                Ukrainians and the Baltic states prohibit the Russian language. These go from the Cyrillic alphabet.
                The essence is the same - to create a new history in which these "states" supposedly existed for centuries.
                The inhabitants of these countries will believe in this nonsense. The knowledge of the Russian language and the ability of the population to read books in Russian and listen to the Russian media interfere with this "history".

                And the dependence of technology on language is more like a doctor.
                1. +1
                  April 3 2019 21: 54
                  Quote: For example
                  And the dependence of technology on language is more like a doctor.

                  Too much depends on the language. Switching from Russian to Kazakh is like moving from Vinous7 to the MS-DOS shell. To the doctor, those who do not understand this.
            2. +1
              April 3 2019 23: 35
              He only repeats the words of Nazarbay. Apparently, so far it is necessary.
          2. +4
            April 3 2019 15: 44
            Quote: Rusfaner
            "I wonder where this monkey was dug up?"

            By the way, he is a "Sinologist". It is worth waiting for the rapprochement of Kazakhstan with China, and the pushing of national minorities to the 10th role. hi
        2. +10
          April 3 2019 16: 37
          Plus, because the statement is completely fair. Nondonations (those nations that have not yet taken place or will never take place at all) do just that - they smear their faces with whitewash, dress like "white people", drink whiskey like "white people", in everything they act like a "superior race" ... and they do not understand why they are considered second-class people ... everything is simple - there is no national memory in them, they do not remember traditions, they do not feel gratitude for what their ancestors created, they do not have that which cements the nation and makes it united .. one word - savages.
        3. +6
          April 3 2019 17: 40
          Stas157 I agree with you!
          At first, the language would certainly be changed to "Latin", if I don't like Russian. In their language there is no separation of "he", "she", "it" - one word.
          Watch the films - real ukatayka!
          From "Amphibian Man": Who are you? "I am Ichthyander" - "Min Balyk".
          You can also read technical translations, the humorists' phrases "pull the squiggle and click on the pimp" seem like a serious technical work ...
          Just like in Hohland:
          Lace up!
          The string!
          The pieces of iron on the buns get!
          1. 0
            April 3 2019 21: 07
            Dear, if you have difficulties with the Ukrainian language, then you should not aggravate them with your ignorance, because the whole sense of humor that you wanted to show is lost. And to increase your horizons in this matter and to make it funnier, the command: "Machine gun on the chest" is translated into Ukrainian with a certain sense of humor, as "Zalizyaku on puzyaka - gop!" And the command "to attention" is interpreted as "string", and your "string" is the dative case of the word "string, string".
            1. +1
              April 4 2019 05: 55
              Well, excuse me! What I heard from the Ukrainians in the army for more than a quarter century of service ...
              I do not understand the cases of the Ukrainian language, but I don’t need it ...
              Yes, and with the correct translation, you must admit that it sounds quite humorous!
          2. -5
            April 4 2019 17: 29
            what does the Latin and Russian languages ​​have to do with ????
            transition of the Cossack language to the Latin script, illiterate moose!
            1. 0
              April 4 2019 17: 38
              No offense, please! Read your comment - "the transition of the Cossack language to the Latin script" ... "Kazakh" probably?
              And the second - my comment related to the statement of Stas157 regarding the transition to English!
              1. 0
                April 4 2019 17: 46
                Sorry, did not tolerate. not good to eat.
                And the Cossack is right, we are Kazakh only in Russian, Belorussian and Ukrainian! Our self-name is Qazaq!
                1. 0
                  April 4 2019 19: 27
                  Accepted! Connects with Kazakhstan 4 years of military service and believe in bad times ... 90-94 Sara Ozek. No offense, on the contrary, I am grateful for the good and the bad (everyday life, however, as in the entire former Union)!
        4. +3
          April 3 2019 21: 49
          Quote: Stas157
          We would go directly to English, for most countries speak it.

          Kazakhstan is cut off from science and progress. They are fenced off from Russian science by a language barrier, and no one will give them Western.
        5. +2
          April 4 2019 05: 26
          Why is the moderator allowed offensive language addressed to another person? And why is he a monkey? Or is blatant chauvinism already the norm? Plus rudeness ..
          1. +1
            April 4 2019 20: 52
            Quote: East of Kazakhstan
            Or is blatant chauvinism already the norm? Plus rudeness ..

            Do you think for your Russophobic policy you will applaud here? Go to the Ehomats or to censor - they will appreciate it.
            Quote: East of Kazakhstan
            Why is the moderator allowed offensive language addressed to another person? And why is he a monkey?

            People belong to primates - you do not know? Because he behaves like a monkey - he creeps in front of the strong (USA), and his safety rests on Russian weapons.
    2. +17
      April 3 2019 13: 19
      Let's look at these "spiritual modernizers", how they will once again switch to a different alphabet when 90% of publications will be hieroglyphs.
      1. Alf
        -1
        April 3 2019 19: 12
        Quote: orionvitt
        Let's look at these "spiritual modernizers", how they will once again switch to a different alphabet when 90% of publications will be hieroglyphs.

        Big Uncle will order and go over, fun and with songs.
      2. -4
        April 4 2019 17: 31
        Don’t worry about us! you yourself most importantly stay there in the cesspool!
    3. +16
      April 3 2019 14: 44
      Stupid act. Kazakhs will get a stupid generation. They already have the level of education of the bulk of the population is poor. And now they are all done.
      Previously, at least someone read books in Russian. And now there will be a Latin.
      And who will be printed in this Latin alphabet, let alone read?
      There is a planned fooling of the population, although where is it even further? Then it will be even easier to manage!
      1. +4
        April 3 2019 15: 38
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        Kazakhs get stupid generation

        Why should they be sensible? A "literate" consumer with a greatness complex will grow up, and that's fine.
      2. Alf
        -1
        April 3 2019 19: 13
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        Kazakhs will get a stupid generation. They already have the level of education of the bulk of the population is poor.

        And you look at our younger generation and, as they say, find ten differences.
      3. +2
        April 3 2019 19: 15
        And in Russia, the younger generation has become much smarter or smarter over the past 30 years. The alphabet is not changed. But there are no training programs and there is still an exam.
        LET'S TALK ABOUT YOURSELF, AND KAZAKH LET BE TRAINED BY YOURSELF. MORE THAN THIS IS ALREADY REPEATED BY THEIR LATINIS.
        1. +3
          April 3 2019 20: 09
          And in Russia, the younger generation has become much smarter or smarter over the past 30 years.

          And you are replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet in Russia and look at the result.
          1. 0
            April 4 2019 10: 24
            And you are replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet in Russia and look at the result.

            I didn’t mean it.
      4. -3
        April 4 2019 17: 33
        it’s been 28 years since you buried us all! Do not worry, clean up your house first!
        1. +3
          April 4 2019 20: 22
          it’s been 28 years since you buried us all!

          Do not believe it - and there were no thoughts.
          In turn, I suggest that you continue to write comments as follows - in Russian, but in Latin letters and without the help of transliteration.
          As I understand it, everything has been put in order in Kazakhstan, it remains only to replace the Cyrillic alphabet. Well, that means it will not be difficult for you. This is elementary.
          But then, how glamorous it will be written - this is Latin! The whole forum will envy you!
          Apparently you are born in 1974 and you are now 45 years old?
          How many books have you read in Kazakh? I do not even ask which writers - poets - Kazakhs?
          And how much do you plan to read in the Kazakh language, only in Latin? I wonder where do you get these books? Or do you have the same endless euphoria from an endless mustakillik?
          You can’t even imagine what awaits you with this Latin alphabet. Go to neighboring Uzbekistan, talk with people about this topic, maybe you will understand something.
          1. 0
            April 5 2019 17: 29
            I read a lot of books, both in Russian and in Cossack and even in English, and the Latin is not a problem for me!
            So a bright future awaits me !!!
    4. -4
      April 3 2019 15: 10
      And the Japanese, Chinese and Koreans use the ENGLISH language in their technical and other literature!
      1. +2
        April 3 2019 18: 10
        I have Chinese equipment, documentation in Chinese and English. English there is such that it’s better to read Chinese ...
      2. +3
        April 3 2019 21: 34
        I tried to translate the manual from Chingrish (so in everyday life it is called clumsy English with an admixture of Chinese and Google translator). Translated somewhere 90%. Despite the fact that I understand without instructions how that separator works, the remaining 10% remained a mystery to me. I didn’t even understand by guesses what they wanted to say there.
  2. +2
    April 3 2019 12: 56
    Kazakhs are afraid, they are trying to isolate themselves so that we do not influence the youth!
    1. +2
      April 3 2019 13: 00
      Quote: neri73-r
      Kazakhs are afraid, they are trying to isolate themselves so that we do not influence the youth!

      And the fact that others get more opportunities for such an influence does not frighten them?
      1. +1
        April 3 2019 13: 01
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: neri73-r
        Kazakhs are afraid, they are trying to isolate themselves so that we do not influence the youth!

        And the fact that others get more opportunities for such an influence does not frighten them?

        And whoever thinks about it now, thinks not ahead of time, but about the nearest (in their opinion) threat.
    2. +3
      April 3 2019 13: 39
      Add a spoon ... of honey. The publication is a bit incomplete:
    3. RL
      +4
      April 3 2019 15: 26
      Everything should be the same! And unanimously! Otherwise, step to the right, step to the left!
      1. +2
        April 4 2019 04: 07
        Quote: RL
        Everything should be the same! And unanimously! Otherwise, step to the right, step to the left!

        An excellent illustration of the principles of the EU and NATO ... "uniform and unanimous"
  3. +8
    April 3 2019 12: 59
    The imperative of time in my opinion is to learn Chinese characters. Especially for Asian countries.
    But the sense that Қosh keldіңіzder написать to write in Latin will not happen and You are welcome will not even break.
  4. +4
    April 3 2019 13: 00
    I saw the word uy [house} in Latin in 3 versions good
  5. +7
    April 3 2019 13: 01
    Well, the logic "About 90% of all information in the world is published in Latin" it turns out that you don't care about nationality, since the language is its most important indicator. If it goes on like this, then besides the name Kazakhstan, a whole nation will disappear.
    1. +2
      April 3 2019 17: 58
      Their national peculiarity is to change everything periodically. Capitals, city names ...
  6. +1
    April 3 2019 13: 03
    They will still speak Russian.
  7. 0
    April 3 2019 13: 06
    Who is the next from the CSTO?
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 18: 12
      Belarus, of course. "Latina" has already been developed and is being used on the railway and in the metro. Instead of Russian.
  8. +11
    April 3 2019 13: 09
    Hurley ... ALLY !!! Why then do they need the CSTO, the Customs Union and other crap? One foot steps to meet Moscow, the other steps to meet Washington - the result is twine, then a break ...
    1. +6
      April 3 2019 13: 16
      Quote: Nasr
      Hurley ... ALLY !!!

      Next - the hard years of the "Russian occupation"?
      1. +5
        April 3 2019 13: 19
        Quote: edeligor

        Next - the hard years of the "Russian occupation"?


        Are you talking about the official position? Because, at the household level - this has been a common thread since the 90s ...
        1. +1
          April 3 2019 13: 21
          Quote: Nasr
          at the household level

          Even so? I did not expect to be honest ...
          1. +6
            April 3 2019 13: 25
            Quote: edeligor
            Quote: Nasr
            at the household level

            Even so? I did not expect to be honest ...

            Now they will refute me and even convince me of the opposite ... wait for the comments of the internationalists ... laughing
            1. +2
              April 3 2019 13: 35
              Native Kazakhstani?
        2. +3
          April 3 2019 13: 37
          No, much earlier, even earlier than 1986. Even the great Kazakh poet Olzhas Suleimenov, at one time, said that Kazakhstan is Nuna "the second Czechoslovakia".
        3. +1
          April 3 2019 14: 08
          I live here and have not heard
          1. +2
            April 3 2019 14: 24
            This is my deceased Mom told me. She and her father were in a restaurant in A-Ata, in the early 70s, and in the same place Olzhas and the company "washed" the fee for some of his published books. And Olzhas, being drunk, spoke loudly about this that he had heard the whole tavern.
            1. +1
              April 3 2019 15: 42
              I’ve lived here for 39 years
              1. 0
                April 3 2019 19: 37
                I was born there and lived there since 1967. to 1979 Father was born there in 1939. My grandfather arrived there in 1927. So I am the "root" Alma-Atinets!
        4. 0
          April 3 2019 14: 31
          "... Because, at the everyday level, this has been a red thread since the 90s ..." (c)
          Rather, the opposite is true. Is that a part of the "dull" youth and pensioners of the "party and economic asset" - so who does not have them?
      2. +3
        April 3 2019 13: 25
        Why the following? Read Nazarbayev’s speech at the Turkish-Kazakh forum in Istanbul, you will be surprised.
    2. +2
      April 3 2019 13: 32
      Quote: Nasr
      Hurley ... ALLY !!! Why then do they need the CSTO, the Customs Union and other crap? One foot steps to meet Moscow, the other steps to meet Washington - the result is twine, then a break ...

      Want to tear? Yes, and God help them. Maybe Russia will return to the borders of 1922.
      1. +1
        April 3 2019 14: 14
        Quote: major147
        Want to tear? Yes, and God help them. Maybe Russia will return to the borders of 1922.

        Give the Kuril Islands?
        1. 0
          April 3 2019 20: 47
          Quote: sabotage
          Give the Kuril Islands?

          Нет! soldier
      2. +2
        April 3 2019 17: 43
        Quote: major147
        Quote: Nasr
        Hurley ... ALLY !!! Why then do they need the CSTO, the Customs Union and other crap? One foot steps to meet Moscow, the other steps to meet Washington - the result is twine, then a break ...

        Want to tear? Yes, and God help them. Maybe Russia will return to the borders of 1922.

        For me, it’s better to the borders of the Russian Empire in 1865!
        1. +1
          April 4 2019 06: 16
          But what about the globe of Ukraine?
    3. +2
      April 3 2019 14: 36
      Quote: Nasr
      One foot steps to meet Moscow, the other steps to meet Washington - the result is twine, then a break ...

      Today, given the mores of lovers of democracy and freedom, it is not recommended to spread their legs so widely. They can insert. It’s better to decide where you are going, but look carefully under your feet.
    4. -2
      April 4 2019 17: 37
      Is it possible for the Armenians to switch to Cyrillic now ?! to stay in the CSTO?
      If we leave, then the Russian group in Kazakhstan will also have nothing to do!
      You even have nowhere to test rockets, our landfills and save .... if my will would have long closed all the landfills!
      1. Alf
        0
        April 4 2019 20: 47
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        if my will would have long closed all the landfills!

        Do not forget to destroy everything that the Russian invaders built for you and scream Geth out loud! The result of such processes can be seen in the neighboring area.
        P.S. I don’t put a minus just because of pity.
        1. -4
          April 5 2019 17: 33
          During the period of collectivization, the Kazakhs were halved in number !!!!!
          In the independence, I see good, kind people trapped in mediocre leaders and covetous neighbors !!!!!!!!!!!!
          And I'll put a minus!
      2. +3
        April 4 2019 20: 59
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        If we leave, then the Russian group in Kazakhstan will also have nothing to do!

        And you ask for NATO, let the example of Ukraine inspire you. You do not get off with one area.
        1. -1
          April 5 2019 17: 30
          We’ll ask, we’ll definitely ask, when you won’t get any sense.
          1. +1
            April 5 2019 19: 44
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            Look, as if they didn’t return the captured !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! milk has not dried up yet to threaten us !!!!

            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            We’ll ask, we’ll definitely ask, when you won’t get any sense.

            You are simply divorced from reality, but I will enlighten you.
            The modern Russian government is not good communists who are glad about the friendship of peoples. You just give a reason - only a few regions in the south will remain from your state.
            And this is not a threat but a warning. To me as a person liable for military service - there is no desire to go to war in Kazakhstan, but I see that it makes no sense to hope for your common sense.
            1. -3
              April 5 2019 20: 03
              Duty-bound, we will bury you in a mass grave! Welcome!!!
              1. +1
                April 5 2019 20: 04
                Quote: Qazaq 1974
                Duty-bound, we will bury you in a mass grave! Welcome!!!

                Ukrainians also said so, while only they are buried.
                1. 0
                  April 5 2019 20: 11
                  And you, too, throughout Russia fresh graves !!!
                  1. 0
                    April 5 2019 20: 16
                    Quote: Qazaq 1974
                    And you, too, throughout Russia fresh graves !!!

                    But you did not see them.
                    1. 0
                      April 5 2019 20: 18
                      Maybe you saw ?! I can often be in Orsk, Omsk, Cherepovets and St. Petersburg!
                      1. +2
                        April 5 2019 20: 21
                        Quote: Qazaq 1974
                        Maybe you saw ?! I can often be in Orsk, Omsk, Cherepovets and St. Petersburg!

                        What could you see from Langley there? Only demotivators on the Internet.
        2. -4
          April 5 2019 17: 30
          Look, as if they didn’t return the captured !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! milk has not dried up yet to threaten us !!!!
          1. +2
            April 5 2019 17: 39
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Goss ... well, why are you so killing? You'll never be killed like that (c)
  9. +10
    April 3 2019 13: 10
    But it will not turn out that in this Kazakhstan will lose more than it will receive! Virtually linguistically an entire generation of Kazakhstani residents will be thrown out. A lot of literature is in Russian and Kazakh languages ​​- all this will need to be redone and reprinted. My opinion is that they themselves create additional difficulties that can later cost them sideways, especially for the people. fool
    1. Alf
      +2
      April 3 2019 19: 17
      Quote: Simon
      My opinion is that they themselves create additional difficulties that can later cost them sideways, especially for the people.

      Which will be to blame ... guess who? That's right, Russia.
    2. -2
      April 5 2019 17: 39
      Will not work! The next question !!!
  10. +8
    April 3 2019 13: 12
    Kazakhstan is an independent state, their right!
    1. +3
      April 3 2019 14: 01
      Really, at least one adequate person
    2. +3
      April 4 2019 12: 00
      I agree with their right, but they asked the people? but no, the top decided to make fun of the people
  11. +14
    April 3 2019 13: 12
    Transition will foster technology and science

    Russians and Chinese are not up to date however ... laughing And the Japanese are getting a little dumb.
    one of the main stages of the spiritual modernization of the country

    The country's spirituality is primarily in people. In understanding their origin, keeping their traditions, knowledge, crafts, etc. What side will be the modernization when replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet? All the Kazakhs will suddenly understand nuclear physics and will make their own reactor in a couple of years?
    So far, everything that we have learned about this country since the collapse of the USSR: Kazakh without show-offs is a pointless Kazakh.
  12. +3
    April 3 2019 13: 15
    There is current or not, time will tell .... it's just that everything is logical! Fish is looking where ...... food is sweeter!
  13. +7
    April 3 2019 13: 15
    one of the main stages of the spiritual modernization of the country
    What a modernization, even if they do not have their own written language. Rushing around with the alphabet, like gypsies at the auction. But they declared themselves the next great heirs of Genghis Khan.
    1. Alf
      +2
      April 3 2019 19: 19
      Quote: orionvitt
      But they declared themselves the next great heirs of Genghis Khan.

      Are they going to war? Do tumens cook? Again 300 years tribute to pay ... laughing
  14. +11
    April 3 2019 13: 18
    from the site https://www.nur.kz/1661560-kazakhskiy-alfavit-istoriya.html
    From the 29th century until the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the Arabic alphabet was officially operating in Kazakhstan. It had XNUMX letters and the sign “hamza”, which denoted narrow vowels. The letters of the Arabic alphabet were made in the Persian style. Words were written from right to left.
    In 1924, it was corrected in accordance with the peculiarities of Kazakh phonetics, and in 1929 it was replaced by the Latin alphabet - Yanalif.
    This transition was accompanied by heated debate. The issue of replacing Arabic letters with Latin letters was resolved over 3 years - from 1924 to 1927. A real scientific battle broke out between the Arabists and the Latinists, not much different from today's disputes. Its essence was to understand whether Latin letters can convey the features of the Kazakh language.
    Arab graphics supported Akhmet Baitursynov. He was the author of the scientifically based Arabic alphabet of the Kazakh language - "tөte jazu". This alphabet is still used by Kazakhs who migrated abroad, mainly to China.
    Speaking against the abolition of the Arab drawing system, Akhmet Baitursynov put forward the following arguments:
    Latin letters are less suitable for conveying the features of Kazakh phonetics. Out of 26 letters, only 15 can be applied without changes and 7 with variations. And the Kazakh alphabet of 1924 used 24 characters of the Arab system (19 unchanged, and 5 corrected).
    Kazakh fonts based on the Latin alphabet, prepared for the manufacture of printed products, had to be changed by a third.
    The Latinists expressed their arguments in this discussion. Their mastermind, Kazakh linguist Telzhan Shonanov, cited his arguments against the Arabic script:
    Diacritics (signs indicating that the sound is read differently than without it) complicated the study of the alphabet.
    The difference in the type of letters depending on their location in the word.
    Fuzzy outlines of signs, which complicated reading.
    The inability to use the Arabic alphabet for special texts: notes, scientific papers, where there are formulas, etc.
    The main evidence of the irrelevance of the Arab system for the Kazakh language was that it incompletely conveyed the phonetic originality and complicated the work of typesetters.
    Obviously, the purely practical argument of this dispute forced the leaders of the republic to stop it. Latin begins its difficult path of formation in Kazakhstan. To unify the Latin system for the national language, a special committee was created. In 1928, the Kazakh alphabet in Latin was approved at the conference. It consisted of 29 letters.
    In the early 1930s. the Soviet government put forward the idea of ​​universal "cyrillization" of the written language of the state. Kazakh letters are undergoing yet another transformation. Cyrillic alphabet created almost 10 years.
    In 1940, the option proposed by Sarsen Amanzholov was approved. It had 41 letters: 32 letters accepted in the Russian letter, and 9 special characters that conveyed the originality of the Kazakh language.
    So the question is not new.
    1. -1
      April 3 2019 13: 39
      Interesting terminology: "territory of Kazakhstan" ???, But nothing, so the very name "KazaKhstan" appeared on the world map only in 1936, before that they used the term "Kazakstan", and in English they still write "Kazakhstan" - seems to be similar to the concept of "Cossack camp of the Semirechensky Cossack army". After all, the former capital of Alma-Ata was previously called Semirechensk. Have you thought of changing the spelling in Latin in English yet?
      1. +5
        April 3 2019 14: 11
        Alma-Ata has never been Semirechensk
        1. +3
          April 3 2019 15: 20
          Verny city
        2. +2
          April 3 2019 15: 45
          Quote: Lamatinets
          Alma-Ata has never been Semirechensk

          Not exactly. They will probably not be renamed for the third time in the near future. And now, after all, "Almaty" is positioned by Kazakh officials as the birthplace of all apples in the world. Are there a lot of wild apple trees ... Why not fool people, just to think less about family assets.
          The series will continue, new series have already been scheduled.
          1. +1
            April 3 2019 15: 48
            Almaty more than 1000 years about so hi bully
            1. 0
              April 3 2019 20: 45
              Almaty more than 1000 years ...
              Interestingly, maybe more. Will you be able to publish all the names of this city, at least for the last millennium, and in what specific years did all these renaming take place?
              1. +1
                April 3 2019 21: 03
                I don’t know how the Kazakhs called their camp from a pair of yurts hi
                1. +1
                  April 3 2019 23: 03
                  Forgive me, but I asked about all the known names of this city, now Alma-Ata, and who lived there and what they were called, this is a completely different question, especially since the term "kazakhi" appeared only in 1936, so they have been they could not live there by definition. Moreover, in general, this settlement among the Cossacks was called a camp, here it was rightly noticed that one of the famous names of the city is already the city of "Verny", I also came across this. In the literature of the XNUMXth century, the term "Semirechensk" was also used, I cannot say for sure for the correctness of the names, because I did not live there at that time. Let the specialists do this. It is only known that the name of the pemen and the areas where they lived changes very, very often. The only question is this and it is desirable to have accurate knowledge on this issue, this is important enough and can resolve many other issues, including peace issues.
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                  2. +1
                    April 4 2019 00: 02
                    And to this day in Almaty there is the Zhetysu district, which translates as Semirechye. So, perhaps, there was some unofficial name. And so, Verny, Alma-Ata, Almaty. Great city, by the way. I’ve been living here for 15 years.
                    1. +1
                      April 4 2019 00: 57
                      ... perhaps there was some unofficial name ...
                      Yes, in those days, "official" names have not yet been invented. Often, and until now, different names are used, just in different languages ​​and in different countries, and it happens that in one country they speak differently. I myself write only what I saw in various publications at different times of publication, hence the frequent misunderstanding of people on the same issue. One person can never have complete information, and this is normal, it is a pity that many do not understand this and do not even want to understand.
                  3. -2
                    April 4 2019 17: 41
                    That's right, kazakh appeared at that time, and before that we had been called Qazaq since the 15th century!
                    1. 0
                      April 4 2019 21: 01
                      Quote: Qazaq 1974
                      That's right, kazakh appeared at that time, and before that we had been called Qazaq since the 15th century!

                      Cossacks are an estate in the Russian Empire and there has never been a nation with that name.
                      1. +1
                        April 5 2019 17: 34
                        Cossacks by nationality are Russians! And we by nationality are KAZAKI!
                      2. 0
                        April 5 2019 19: 37
                        Quote: Qazaq 1974
                        And we by nationality are KAZAKI!

                        Until the twentieth century, you were generally Kyrgyz.
                        Cossacks were NOT TURKS, you do not relate to them in any way.
                      3. 0
                        April 10 2019 16: 56
                        I’m grieving you, Kazakhami. It was already decided by the Soviets to call the Cossacks in 1936, and it was then that a decree was issued calling on the Russian Cossacks to serve. It becomes clear that this is done on purpose, so that there is no confusion:
                        "5th All-Kazakh Congress of Soviets
                        DECISION
                        from 19 April to 1925 year
                        ABOUT RESTORATION OF THE NAME OF “KAZAKH” FOR THE KYRGYZ NATIONALITY.
                        To restore the historically correct name of the Kyrgyz people, the 5th All-Kazakh Congress of Soviets decides:
                        henceforth, to call the Kyrgyz - Cossacks.
                        5th All-Kazakh Congress of Soviets.
                        19 April 1925 city
                        Kyzyl-Orda city "


                        Well, the fact that the Kazakhs under the Rurikovich was called precisely the Cossacks, there is evidence:
                        "Kazatsky Kasym tsar" - so, in Russian archival documents the term "tsar" is used in relation to the Kazakh khans of Kasym, Hakk-Nazar, Tauekel, Yesim and others. For example, in the inventory of the Tsar's archive of the XVI century there is an entry:
                        "Box 38. And in it are Cossack books and lists under Kasym Tsar ...". In a letter from the ruler of the Nogai Horde, Seyid Ahmad Mirza, to Ivan Vasilyevich (May 1535), there is the following message: "The Cossack tsar, Host Mahmet, the tsar with fiveteen sons lives with us ...". The Kazakh khan of the second half of the XNUMXth century, Hakk-Nazar, appears in the archival documents of the diplomatic relations of the Moscow state as "the Cossack Horde Aknazar (Oknazar) Tsar".
                        The Russian Tsar Fyodor Ivanovich, in his letter in 1595, addressed the ruler of the Kazakh Khanate Tauekel: "The Cossack Horde Tevkel Tsar". In the formal letter of the Ufa governor O. Pronchishchev (1620), "tsar" is again pronounced:
                        "... the great tightness from the Cossack Hordes from the Ishim of the tsar pervaded the Kolmtsim taichs ..."
                        “And between the Akbashly Lake and the Sauk River and the Akkol Lake and on both sides of the Kenderlik River and the Sarsu River and Karakum Sands, in those places, at 600 miles, the Cossack Hordes wandered. And between the Khvalinsky (Caspian) Sea and Astrakhan, the Cossack Hordes are nomadic and from the top of the Yaik to the Volga the nomadic Big Bolt ”.
                      4. 0
                        April 10 2019 17: 22
                        Quote: Aposlya
                        I’m gonna upset you, kazakhami it was already decided by the Sovi authorities in 1936 to call the Cossacks

                        Quote: Aposlya
                        Well, the fact that the Kazakhs under the Rurikovich was called precisely the Cossacks, there is evidence:

                        Everything would be fine, but the Cossacks have survived to this day and you are not them.
                      5. 0
                        April 11 2019 03: 47
                        But the Cossacks themselves have their pedigrees from us! :)
                        “We are of the same root as the Kyrgyz Kaisaks, they are in a kinship with everything
                        Cossack world, ”said the hereditary Cossack General Isaac Bakadorov.
                      6. 0
                        April 11 2019 19: 09
                        Quote: Aposlya
                        But the Cossacks themselves have their pedigrees from us! :)

                        You became Cossacks after the revolution - when you began to take anyone to the Cossacks.
  15. +3
    April 3 2019 13: 22
    90 percent? Eck, bent. The previous one did not allow such blunders. Mukhtar Auezov, laureate of the Stalin Prize - "Abai's Way" in Latin, "grandiose".
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 13: 51
      Interestingly, from what "ceiling" these figures are taken?
      September 13, 2017 Kairat BATTALOV, candidate of historical sciences, director of the Institute of History and Culture of Kazakhstan PSU named after S. Toraigyrova:
      80 percent Information in the world is published using Latin graphics.
      https://liter.kz/ru/articles/show/36738-perehod_na_latinicu_shag_v_budushee
  16. 0
    April 3 2019 13: 25
    Quote: Lamatinets
    I saw the word uy [house} in Latin in 3 versions good

    Were there any good houses? laughing
    1. 0
      April 4 2019 09: 14
      Houses then remain houses.
      But the barn is a palace ...
  17. +6
    April 3 2019 13: 36
    People are striving for power - "not of this world." This is not normal for a normal person. Their psyche is twisted. And having achieved power, already having everything, they start another mania - to go down in history as a reformer, brazenly rewriting history for themselves. negative
  18. +3
    April 3 2019 13: 38
    Another 404 country with a gateway so far closed.
  19. +8
    April 3 2019 13: 52
    On the one hand, the President of Kazakhstan Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, stating that "About 90% of all information in the world is published in the Latin alphabet, thus the transition will contribute to the development of technology and science." demonstrated blatant ignorance in this matter. On the other hand, the massive transition of the post-Soviet republics from the Cyrillic to the Latin alphabet indicates the weakness of Russia. Economic, social, industrial, political ... in general, any and every weakness. Nuclear club, and the army as a whole are not indicators. What kind of army is there and in general what kind of metal "Faberge" is - it will become clear in Armageddon, after which, as it were, everything cuts to a light. But until Armageddon, all not very strong cling closer to the strongest. You shouldn't blame the weak for that - it's normal when Tabaki holds on to Sher Khan. I would not like to offend the Kazakhs with this comparison, I have good feelings for them left from my military service in the SA - normal people, but in fact they are.
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 20: 28
      Quote: McAr
      the massive transition of the post-Soviet republics from Cyrillic to Latin, indicates the weakness of Russia

      External resemblance - both we are weak, and our "former". And we have a copy of someone else's lifestyle, and others. The behavior of regional "small" peoples - idio-adaptation - adaptation to environmental conditions, this is their norm. For our people, the same behavior, as we already see, is destructive. We are a continental people, we have another way to overcome our weaknesses - aromorphosis (according to A.N.Severtsev) - evolutionary change, as a result of which the living rises to a fundamentally new, more progressive stage of development, the complexity of organization and functions - we need national creativity. Therefore, the current conservation of liberalism in Russia is an obstacle to our prospects.
    2. +1
      April 3 2019 22: 04
      Quote: McAr
      But until armageddon, everyone is not very strong cuddle closer to the strongest.

      Not to the strong, but to the rich.
  20. +5
    April 3 2019 13: 54
    It makes more sense to make English the official language. And then what are some half measures.
  21. +5
    April 3 2019 13: 56
    Heard already, first Latin then to NATO!
  22. +5
    April 3 2019 14: 01
    Everywhere in the post-Soviet expanses, these native dances with tambourines for the green candy wrappers of the new financial owners from behind the puddles and the bet for the imaginary wealth of the native elites is to betray once a strong and unifying tribe, that is Russia, no demagoguery justifies this strange and economically unprofitable country step ....
  23. +5
    April 3 2019 14: 04
    Here, strange, chesslovo.
    Prior to joining Russia, they did not have a written language at all. Russia gave them, in Cyrillic in Kazakh.
    now they decided in front of the west to stoop in a pose, translate into the Latin alphabet. Now the whole country has become illiterate. So far, they will come up with new rules and everyone will learn and apply. sad negative
    1. 0
      April 4 2019 18: 08
      You always confidently say that others have everything bad and there was nothing, and you taught all of them!
      So confidently assert that we did not have a written language, well, at least poke around in the directories, or look at the people of Kazakhstan on Wikipedia .... I’m ashamed of such neighbors.
      Before the Cyrillic alphabet, we used the Latin alphabet until 1940 ... well, read the wiki clipping

      Kazakhs, like all Turkic peoples, are the heirs of the runic writing that existed in the VIII-X centuries and is known in science as the Orkhon-Yenisei. The runic alphabet consisted of 24 letters and a word mark. As Islam spread and strengthened, the beginning of the 1929th century The Arabic alphabet is becoming more widespread. Of course, he was significantly changed and adapted to the norms of Turkic speech. Kazakhs living in China still continue to use the Kazakh script reformed by Akhmet Baitursynov (“Zhana emele”) based on Arabic graphics. In the Soviet period, in Kazakhstan, for political purposes, the Kazakh alphabet was translated into Latin script (Latinization, 1940), and then another translation was already made into Cyrillic (Cyrillization, 1940). The modern Kazakh language, since 42, uses the Cyrillic graphic system. The Kazakh alphabet contains 2012 letters and is based on the Cyrillic alphabet. In 2025, it became known about the decision on the phased translation of the Kazakh language in Kazakhstan into the Latin alphabet. The start of the Latin translation process is scheduled for XNUMX
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 21: 04
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        The runic alphabet consisted of 24 letters and a word mark

        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        As Islam spread and strengthened, the beginning of the XNUMXth century The Arabic alphabet is becoming more widespread.

        And what does the Kazakhs that did not exist at that time?
        1. 0
          April 5 2019 17: 36
          And how do you think who you paid tribute to 300 years ??? Tatar mangols are all that your historians have come up with! )))))))))))))))
          1. +1
            April 5 2019 19: 34
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            And how do you think who you paid tribute to 300 years ???

            Certainly not for you, then you simply were not there.
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            Tatar mangols are all that your historians have come up with! )))))))))))))))

            This is what GERMAN historians could come up with.
            1. 0
              April 10 2019 17: 03
              Again, Seryozha will disappoint you, but you probably heard about the tribes of Genghis Khan - Naimans, Merkits, Uysuns, Argyns, Kerei, Konyrats, etc.? And these are all Kazakh tribes, actually ... Back in the 10th century, the Persians wrote, "that the Cossacks from the Kipchak and Kangly tribes were ravaging the town of Balasagun with their raids ..."
              1. 0
                April 10 2019 17: 20
                Quote: Aposlya
                Again Seryozha upset you, but you probably heard about the tribes of Genghis Khan

                Where are you - and where is Genghis Khan, you have nothing to do with it.
                Quote: Aposlya
                Back in the 10th century, the Persians wrote that "the Cossacks from the Kipchak and Kangly tribes were ravaging the city of Balasagun with their raids ..."

                I have a mother from the Kuban Cossacks - YOU ARE NOT COSSACKS, no matter how you puffed up. You just insolently rewrote the story for yourself, you are now somewhere near the ancient diggers of the Black Sea.
                1. 0
                  April 11 2019 03: 51
                  Quote: Setrac
                  I have a mother from the Kuban Cossacks - YOU ARE NOT COSSACKS, no matter how you puffed up. You just insolently rewrote the story for yourself, you are now somewhere near the ancient diggers of the Black Sea.

                  Do you have some kind of papa or something? Do you see diggers everywhere? Read the story "Cossacks" by Tolstoy. There he directly says that the Cossacks among themselves and in their families speak the Tatar language, i.e. in Turkic. They boast about Tatar customs and weapons ... But this is the 19th century! It took 100 years and the Cossacks became Russified. This is exactly the same as the Kazakhs in the Russian Federation - they no longer know their language, they are completely Russified ... Well, you are Russian and have been rewriting history all the way since the time of the Romanovs ... :)
                  1. 0
                    April 11 2019 19: 06
                    Quote: Aposlya
                    Read the story "Cossacks" by Tolstoy.

                    This is a work of art of the nineteenth century, he has Cossacks and talk on the Martian dialect - if the writer wants. A work of art is not a historical document.
                    Quote: Aposlya
                    Enough for 100 years and the Cossacks Russified.

                    The Cossacks could not "become Russified", they are not genetically Turks, they are Russians from the very beginning.
    2. -1
      April 10 2019 17: 00
      Quote: K-50
      Prior to joining Russia, they did not have a written language at all. Russia gave them, in Cyrillic in Kazakh.

      Well, actually you have obvious gaps in education. When the Kazakhs wrote in runic letters, it was not that the Russian Empire, even Kievan Rus, did not exist in nature! :)
      1. +1
        April 10 2019 17: 24
        Quote: Aposlya
        When the Kazakhs wrote in runic letters

        It was about the same time that the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea.
        1. 0
          April 11 2019 03: 52
          Quote: Setrac
          It was about the same time that the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea.

          Teach materiel!
          "Ancient Türkic runic writing (Orkhon-Yenisei writing) is a script used in Central Asia for writing in Türkic languages ​​in the 2th-3th centuries AD. [4] Ancient Türkic writing was used in the literary language (supra-dialectal Koine) of that time [5] [ 6] [7] [8] [XNUMX], which is also called the language of the Orkhon-Yenisei inscriptions [XNUMX].

          Researchers distinguish 7 groups of written language monuments (belonging, respectively): Lena-Baikal (Kurykans), Yenisei (Kyrgyz Kaganate), Mongolian (East Turkic Kaganate), Altai (Western Turkic Kaganate), East Turkestan (Uygur Kaganate) in Mongolia , Central Asian (to the Uyghur state in East Turkestan), Eastern European (Bulgars (theory), Khazars and Pechenegs) [9]. "
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Древнетюркское_руническое_письмо
          1. 0
            April 11 2019 19: 02
            Quote: Aposlya
            Teach materiel!
            "Ancient Türkic runic writing

            But then you don’t have any side to this letter when you were annexed to Russia (saving you from destruction) you didn’t have any runic letter.
  24. 0
    April 3 2019 14: 11
    Quote: Nasr
    Hurley ... ALLY !!! Why then do they need the CSTO, the Customs Union and other crap? One foot steps to meet Moscow, the other steps to meet Washington - the result is twine, then a break ...

    At the same time, they also do not forget to make the pleasant negative
  25. +3
    April 3 2019 14: 17
    Well, yeah, if you write and read in Latin, then you will understand better and know more ... Kazakhs need to switch to Chinese, their economy is taking leaps and bounds.
  26. +3
    April 3 2019 14: 22
    You must immediately go to the hieroglyphs. Goodbye, our sweet bear, hello panda!
  27. -1
    April 3 2019 14: 22
    Nursultan, under old age, survived from the mind. I look, they have a new alphabet in Latin - 32 letters. Well, we have 33, and in Latin 26. Where is closer?
    1. +1
      April 4 2019 18: 02
      and in the Kazakh Cyrillic alphabet - 44 letters ..
  28. +4
    April 3 2019 14: 26
    .Most of the neighboring countries chose the Latin script,

    Russia, China ... No, well, if spirituality needs to be modernized, then of course yes ... The Latin alphabet is much closer for the Genghisides .... And then the colonialists imposed their Cyrillic alphabet, raised the virgin lands along the way, eradicated illiteracy, and built cities and factories .. It's time to restore the greatness of the language ... Latin alphabet.
  29. +8
    April 3 2019 14: 26
    The transition stages will pass, the technology of Kazakhstan will rise to the highest level and they will be the first to fly to Mars.
    And then to Snickers ..
    1. 0
      April 4 2019 18: 01
      First! that's for sure!!! And yours in another Galaxy, cho Mars, we are not further !!!
      And you stay in ...
      1. Alf
        +1
        April 4 2019 20: 51
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        First! that's for sure!!! And yours in another Galaxy, cho Mars, we are not further !!!

        On what ? What else do you have left there?
        1. +1
          April 5 2019 17: 39
          we have our secrets! And I’ll tell you a secret in a friendly, soon and on a large technological ship !!!! To a neighboring galaxy !!!
          True, no one has ever left our solar system at all! )))))))))))))))))
          This is just a joke, emo brother Alf!)))))))))))))
  30. +3
    April 3 2019 14: 30
    Is it possible that the considerable funds Kazakhstan will spend on this dubious transformation can be spent more profitably?
    1. Alf
      0
      April 4 2019 20: 54
      Quote: NF68
      Is it possible that the considerable funds Kazakhstan will spend on this dubious transformation can be spent more profitably?

      So for this and conceived. One tenge for the transition, three in your pocket.
  31. +2
    April 3 2019 14: 41
    Here they have nothing to do. All this must be reprinted and redone. And for what? To "like" the progressive?
  32. 0
    April 3 2019 14: 43
    But what about the union interaction and the development of economies ... Doesn’t the transition to the Latin alphabet create contractual red tape, translations, and notaries confirmation for these translations?
    1. Alf
      0
      April 4 2019 20: 55
      Quote: kukriniks
      Is the transition to the Latin alphabet will not create contract red tape, transfers, confirmations of notaries for these translations?

      But how many people will feed on this ...
      1. 0
        April 10 2019 17: 05
        Quote: Alf
        But how many people will feed on this ...

        And now no one is feeding on the translation from Kazakh into Russian? :)
  33. +1
    April 3 2019 14: 44
    About 90% of all information in the world is published in Latin, so the transition will contribute to the development of technology and science.

    In Latin, but not Kazakh, the sense of the fact that you know the Latin letters, but do not know the language?
    1. -1
      April 3 2019 15: 17
      Well, by the way there is try to read languages ​​on the basis of Latin German. Spanish. You will immediately be able to roughly understand how they are pronounced. And then the Greek text. There is nothing to understand without preparation. Although the Greek alphabet is the ancestor of both Latin and Cyrillic
      1. +2
        April 3 2019 16: 40
        Quote: pru-pavel
        Well, by the way there is try to read languages ​​on the basis of Latin German. Spanish. You will immediately be able to roughly understand how they are pronounced.

        Very roughly. Indeed, depending on the language, many Latin letters and their combinations are pronounced very differently.
        1. 0
          April 3 2019 16: 49
          I agree. But it will be perceived. Greek for example is not perceived at all
  34. +4
    April 3 2019 15: 10
    Kazazakh God help them, let him scribble Morse points. Nobody can replace a Russian person anyway. They survived in due time, now they cry and hire, because industry is not about chasing saigas. In Astana there was - no impressions, artificial education. hi
    1. 0
      April 4 2019 17: 59
      Who survived ?! and who is crying ?!
  35. +1
    April 3 2019 15: 15
    "... most of the neighboring countries have chosen exactly the Latin script .." - but I wonder with which country (among the neighboring ones) does Kazakhstan have the longest border ???
  36. 0
    April 3 2019 15: 32
    They switch to the Latin alphabet Nazarkent, Sara-Apa and others. And why lie - "Tokayev said that most of the neighboring countries chose the Latin script." Out of habit, as always, or are they not taught to count at MGIMO?
  37. +5
    April 3 2019 15: 50
    Return South Siberia and do what you want ..
    1. +2
      April 3 2019 20: 04
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Return South Siberia and do what you want.

      Yes, in FIG. And you just need to give all Russians Russian citizenship and all. Who needs to move, and the rest will feel protected, and know that they can go home at any time.
    2. 0
      April 4 2019 17: 59
      try it - take it!
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 21: 06
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        try it - take it!

        Crimea is OUR?
        1. +1
          April 5 2019 17: 40
          Crimea is ours, Soviet! not yours.
          1. +1
            April 5 2019 19: 33
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            Crimea is ours, Soviet! not yours.

            Yes, Crimea is not mine, my Kuban. And our Crimea is Russian, not Kazakh and not Ukrainian.
            1. -2
              April 5 2019 20: 00
              Ukrainian!
              1. +2
                April 5 2019 20: 03
                Quote: Qazaq 1974
                Ukrainian!

                Let them raise their flag over Sevastopol and Simferopol.
  38. +4
    April 3 2019 16: 02
    Of course you can be indignant and whining (as always). But from this, the Kazakhs will certainly not stop realizing the plan of translating their alphabet into Latin.
    So, this is empty. Go to sleep. It may be easier. Maybe - let it go. love
    1. +3
      April 3 2019 16: 52
      Tokaev has already turned back on the issue of trilingualism in schools. The idea was good teaching subjects in three languages ​​and the abolition of individual Russian, Kazakh, Uzbek, etc. schools. I think the issue of switching to Latin will be canceled in two or three years.
      1. +1
        April 3 2019 17: 26
        As for the three languages, it's not so simple. If we take into account that the younger generation of Kazakhs is increasingly choosing English as the future alternative, then the question of the status of the Russian language and its ubiquity will not be so significant in the near future.
        Regarding the Latin alphabet, everything is just simple. Again, a significant part of the youth perceived the Kazakh Latin alphabet, in general, very positively and with great fervor. And already now a considerable part of the users of the "Latin alphabet" is precisely the most creative part of the Kazakh youth.
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    2. +2
      April 3 2019 22: 08
      Quote: romb
      Of course you can resent and whine

      Nobody whines, we laugh at the wretched.
      1. +2
        April 4 2019 12: 39
        Well, now, he said. One wounded, already from himself a proud "laughter" stands. laughing
        Perhaps you really have such a laugh. I’ll only notice, even this, it turns out to be defective.
        1. +1
          April 4 2019 20: 44
          Quote: romb
          I’ll only notice, even this, it turns out to be flawed.

          Heh, do you think we are offended? Yes, we are with both hands for, go to the Kazakh mov, to the Latin alphabet, to Roman numerals, knit knots. The faster you degrade the better.
          1. +3
            April 4 2019 21: 40
            Yah. Seriously? laughing
            And then what you and your comrades here come with boiling water from indignation. Believe me, I do not mind - let them come. Here we really ugora from the heart. It's expensive to watch Russian Natsik bombing.
            Note that there are almost no Kazakhs in the subject. One, two, no more. Do you know why? Yes, everything is just simple, they do not consider it necessary to explain to someone, something, about their decisions regarding their native language. They have someone else's opinion about their language - in ... did not rest. love
            1. +1
              April 4 2019 22: 11
              Quote: romb
              And then what you and your comrades here come with boiling water from indignation.

              You can understand the "comrades", so much effort and money was spent to get the Kazakhs "off the branches", no, they stubbornly climb back.
              Quote: romb
              Yes, everything is just simple, they do not consider it necessary to explain to someone, something, about their decisions regarding their native language. They have someone else's opinion about their language - in ... did not rest.

              Ukraine it, the opinions of others also did not rest. The result will be one.
              1. 0
                April 4 2019 22: 24
                What branches? It may be just the opposite. The ancestors of the Kazakhs - the Horde, created you from nothing. Yes, from the swamps and forests to feudalism drove. And the state was created for you. It is called the Moscow ulus - Moscow principality. And then, would still go under different nonsense. This is at best. Well, or, would be some area of ​​the modern Baltic.
                And about civilization, in no less form is debatable. The overwhelming majority of your ancestors, (and this is true) of some, a little over a hundred-odd years ago, a little earlier than the October Revolution, were still considered nothing more than household items owned by the landlord class. So oh how everything is relative hi
                1. +1
                  April 4 2019 22: 42
                  Quote: romb
                  Ancestors of the Kazakhs - Horde

                  Horde is a Russian word, no "horde" - the ancestors of the Kazakhs. Horde - from the Old Church Slavonic - army. Going "into the horde" is not going to serve.
                  Quote: romb
                  And the state was created for you. It is called the Moscow ulus - Moscow principality.

                  For a moment, Moscow is the first mention in 1147, Kazakhs are the first mention in 1936. You have not beguiled who created the state of Kuma?
                  1. 0
                    April 4 2019 22: 47
                    The horde is precisely the ancestor, including the Kazakhs. Almost 80% of Kazakh families, in one way or another, had a direct involvement in the creation of a centralized state of Muscovites. Jalayyr. Nyman, Kiyat, Konyrat, Mangyt, Kypchak, Berish, Nogay, Argyn, Torah, Tulengut. Do not believe, check historical sources.
                    1. +2
                      April 4 2019 22: 59
                      Quote: romb
                      The horde is precisely the ancestor, including the Kazakhs.

                      You didn’t even have such a word before the arrival of the Russians.
                      Quote: romb
                      Almost 80% of Kazakh families, in one way or another, had a direct involvement in the creation of a centralized state of Muscovites.

                      Was Yuri long-armed Kazakh? And also Jesus, Napoleon and the Pope.
                      1. 0
                        April 4 2019 23: 03
                        Left clowning around? Somehow you're fast. Although expected))
                        Dolgoruky - who gave him support and whom was he married to? Kipchaks - even here without them the Russians did not have enough traction.
                        And Jesus and Napoleon and the Pope - it seems to be your part.
                      2. 0
                        April 4 2019 23: 09
                        Quote: romb
                        Dolgoruky - who gave him support and whom was he married to? Kipchaks - even here without them the Russians did not have enough traction.

                        Where are the Kipchaks - fair-haired and blue-eyed - and where are the Kazakhs? Wake up you are raving. They were called Polovtsy for their hair color. These were nomadic Slavs.
                      3. 0
                        April 4 2019 23: 29
                        These were nomadic Slavs
                        .
                        Is that what I just read? belay
                        All. I repent. In vain I began to communicate with you. To blame. I bow out.
                      4. +2
                        April 4 2019 23: 35
                        Quote: romb
                        All. I repent. In vain I began to communicate with you. To blame. I bow out.

                        You are to blame initially for your Russophobic existence and even more so being on this site.
                        How much do you pay for your race against Russia?

                        Or do you seriously think that all nations immediately appeared settled? Initially, ALL were nomads.
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                  2. 0
                    April 4 2019 22: 49
                    The first mention of a Cossack is the Stella Kultegin - 7-8 centuries.
                    Further, the sofa is a meadow Meadow at Turk - 11 century.
                    Codex Cumanicus - 13th Century.
                    1. +2
                      April 4 2019 23: 01
                      Quote: romb
                      The first mention of a Cossack is the Stella Kultegin - 7-8 centuries.
                      Further, the sofa is a meadow Meadow at Turk - 11 century.
                      Codex Cumanicus - 13th Century.

                      Your "history" is somewhere near the Ukrainian one. They dug those seas, you created an empire, in 1936, because until then there were no "Kazakhs".
                      1. +1
                        April 4 2019 23: 08
                        I'll tell you a secret. But there are no Kazakhs.
                        There are Cossacks.
                        If anything, there are no Russians for us either. And there are breeds. Named after Urus Khan of the fact that he was centralizing the Moscow state.
                      2. +3
                        April 4 2019 23: 14
                        Quote: romb
                        I'll tell you a secret. But there are no Kazakhs.
                        There are Cossacks.

                        Cossacks - an estate in tsarist Russia - it was from them that you took your name, and before that you were ordinary Kirghiz.
                      3. -1
                        April 4 2019 23: 25
                        Cossacks - in the beginning were the Horde. Warriors of the Nogai Murz and Beklarbek Mamaia. Neither the first nor the second were Genghisids, and could not claim legal authority in the Horde. And I wanted to steer. So this estate appeared. Although the Cossacks in the Barrens have always been. Since the time of the Turkic Kaganate.
                        And then, after the weakening and further collapse of the Horde, the Cossacks began to be used as mercenaries by Russian princes and governors.
                      4. +2
                        April 4 2019 23: 32
                        Quote: romb
                        Although the Cossacks in the Barrens have always been. Since the time of the Turkic Kaganate.

                        Cossacks with the Turks always fought. Such fair-haired blue-eyed Cossacks, it is clear that this is not about you.
                        Quote: romb
                        Cossacks began to be used as mercenaries by Russian princes and governors.

                        The Russians used the Russians — how amazing?
                        Quote: romb
                        Genghisides

                        near Napoleonchiks and Hitlerites
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                  3. 0
                    April 4 2019 22: 51
                    And where is Moscow mentioned? Apart from the Ipatiev Chronicle. In fact, not confirmed by anyone.
                    1. +2
                      April 4 2019 23: 03
                      Quote: romb
                      And where is Moscow mentioned?

                      Yes everywhere. And Batu went to Moscow, and Takhtomysh, Mamai, I’ll list all of you.
                      1. -2
                        April 4 2019 23: 06
                        Did Batu go? Yes, he did not even notice such a "capital city" lol
                        And the rest went and took. The only opponents for the steppe inhabitants are their colleagues. And the Muscovites, so, were lying under their feet, they begged the label, then for some, then for others.
                      2. +3
                        April 4 2019 23: 13
                        Quote: romb
                        Did Batu go? Yes, he did not even notice such a "capital city"

                        Yes, Moscow was not the capital of one eighth of the land then.
                        Quote: romb
                        And Muscovites, so, were lying under their feet, they begged the label, then for some, then for others.

                        You made a mistake on the site, they don’t discuss sadomaso topics here.
                      3. -3
                        April 4 2019 23: 23
                        Well I do not know. If the truth hurts you, but you continue to read it anyway, then I'm on the right resource. So it turns out?
                      4. +3
                        April 4 2019 23: 27
                        Quote: romb
                        If truth really hurts you

                        Your "true" story makes us laugh. Have you dug the Caspian Sea? And Adam and Eve were kazakhs
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                  2. 0
                    April 10 2019 18: 15
                    another fruit from the victim of the exam ... how many of you are that? create enemies for yourself, and then you start howling - "Russia is in a ring of enemies!" ... are you all like that there?
            2. -1
              April 5 2019 17: 41
              Degradation is observed only at you!
  39. +3
    April 3 2019 16: 04
    Are there any more problems in Kazakhstan? feel
    1. +1
      April 3 2019 20: 06
      Quote: alekc73
      Are there any more problems in Kazakhstan?

      Apparently there is surplus money. feel
    2. 0
      April 4 2019 17: 58
      Well uvaz no problem ?! Syria is so necessary for you ?! Billions in war ...
      1. +3
        April 4 2019 21: 07
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        Well uvaz no problem ?! Syria is so necessary for you ?! Billions in war ...

        Very necessary. And Syria. And Crimea. And Kazakhstan exists until it goes over to the side of our enemies.
  40. 0
    April 3 2019 16: 32
    "about 90% of all information in the world is published in the Latin alphabet" (c) well, from this tz it is necessary to switch over to English.
  41. +1
    April 3 2019 16: 46
    To begin with, no matter what the child doesn’t amuse, if only he does not cry. The topic of exclusion is at the beginning of the Russian language and now, as a consequence, the transition to the Latin alphabet. some time ago, on this issue, a deputy from the Stanov asked a question, dear how much special literature is published in our Stan in the national language, and how many in Russian and other foreign, there is practically no such literature correctly, well, there is no special terminology in the national Stan, It turned out that the national language is, by and large, household, now the alphabet is changing and complete emptiness. For what to deal with solving vital issues, we will put all our efforts into a global transition to the Latin alphabet.
  42. +4
    April 3 2019 16: 47
    and in order to keep up with the dictates of the times, Kazakhstan is doing the same. About 90% of all information in the world is published in Latin,

    Thank you Kazakhs, for "friendship" and all that Russia has done for you .. Continue to spread rot in the same way by quietly squeezing out ... We all remember!
    Wherever you look (after the collapse of the USSR), all around you are elbasy from the former
    Who is interested in the borders drew these all .. Oh Russia here we all have a lesson for the future!
    1. +2
      April 3 2019 22: 09
      Quote: KontrLiber
      We all remember!

      And we don’t need to remember - they punish themselves.
    2. +3
      April 4 2019 17: 57
      How much has Russia done to us ?????????????!
      The Soviet period does not count! Everything was built there by the Soviet people, and until recently the Cossacks did not want the collapse of the USSR, and the latter declared independence! and you were the first to destroy the Union ..
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 19: 49
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        How much has Russia done to us ?????????????!

        Nothing ..
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        The Soviet period does not count!

        I just wrote about him ..
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        the latter did not want the collapse of the USSR, and the latter declared independence! and you were the first to destroy the Union ..

        You’re right Nazarbayev, the only one who didn’t want this and was angry at EBN for his drunkenness in the bathhouse, where everyone signed it .. (today he literally started reading interesting memoirs of one of ours .. hi
        But the filling of dismantled nuclear warheads in Kazakhstan, Nazarbayev managed to sell the United States bypassing Russia
        This is an interesting fact very much, how could this still be classified .. and it is not clear ..
        Then, of course, EBN gave the entire supply of plutonium to the USSR to the United States (like we no longer need it, etc.)
        There were terrible times .. And no one has yet answered the tribunal during this period .. negative
        Only in times of collapse in a short period, about 150 thousand died in various conflicts .. (I keep silent ..)
        1. -1
          April 5 2019 17: 51
          But the filling of dismantled nuclear warheads in Kazakhstan, Nazarbayev managed to sell the United States bypassing Russia
          This is an interesting fact very much, how could this still be classified .. and it is not clear ..


          If it is classified ... then how do you know !?
          And so that you know the strategic forces until 1995 in the territory of Kazakhstan, consider the Russian troops before the withdrawal. how would Nazarbayev sell a chto ??? Yours yourself sold everything that could be !!!!
          1. +2
            April 5 2019 19: 11
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            And so that you know the strategic forces until 1995 in the territory of Kazakhstan, consider the Russian troops controlled before withdrawal

            On paper, yes! But basically the State Department led through EBN and other Chubais
            Nevertheless, Nazarbayev sold part of the fillings of US warheads many times more than Russia would buy and export them ..
            That such a horror was happening in the 90s hi
            And on the outskirts, they generally tried to crack launch codes, etc. Thank God there wasn’t enough mind and just started cutting everything to metal and demanding money
            1. -1
              April 5 2019 20: 05
              Live in your version of obscurantism?
      2. +1
        April 4 2019 20: 55
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        How much has Russia done to us ?????????????!

        All that you have is created by Russians.
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        The Soviet period does not count! Everything was built there by the Soviet people

        Soviet people are ninety percent Russian.
        1. +1
          April 5 2019 17: 52
          I repeat once again - Soviet people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          My grandfather was wounded near Stalingrad, and wrote letters home with Latin graphics !!!!
          1. +2
            April 5 2019 19: 29
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            My grandfather was wounded near Stalingrad

            We have a misunderstanding.
            I do not deny your right to change the alphabet. Change - no one will bother you. BUT!!! There is always BUT.
            You don’t realize what consequences this will lead to. You are degrading, and then we will again pull you out of the primitive communal system.
            1. 0
              April 5 2019 20: 04
              why again? when you pulled someone else ??? if you yourself in the past ?! )))
              1. +1
                April 5 2019 20: 07
                Quote: Qazaq 1974
                why again? when you pulled someone else ??? if you yourself in the past ?! )))

                Our past is an unattainable future for you.
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                2. -1
                  April 10 2019 18: 34
                  Well, we at least do not scoff at the 11-year-old girl who lost her eye due to cancer ... But here you have it only! And do you offer such a future to Kazakhstan? !!!
                  https://woman.rambler.ru/other/41768984-poteryavshey-glaz-devochke-iz-yaroslavlya-otkazali-v-invalidnosti/
  43. 3vs
    +1
    April 3 2019 16: 51
    A quick break with the "Russian colonial past" —that is the whole task of the local kings.
    As they say, do not spit in the well ...
  44. 0
    April 3 2019 17: 16
    They accept the Latin alphabet, it remains to accept Catholicism, and there is Europe nearby ... fellow And there maybe restitution law, I will wait... Yes
    1. 0
      April 5 2019 17: 53
      and what is not Protestantism ???????????????
      1. 0
        April 5 2019 18: 19
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        and what is not Protestantism

        "Protestantism" uses in its rituals native speech(depending on the country). And Catholics (orthodox) - Latin... wink
        1. 0
          April 5 2019 18: 22
          And what does Latin have to do with it ???
          1. +1
            April 5 2019 18: 27
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            ??

            Too many questions... laughing
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    2. 0
      April 10 2019 18: 36
      Quote: Tank Hard
      Accept Latin alphabet, it remains to accept Catholicism

      Interestingly, the author of this topic understands at least something in life there, or religion? !! :)
      1. 0
        April 12 2019 11: 38
        Quote: Aposlya
        Interestingly, the author of this topic understands at least something in life there, or religion? !!

        Like .., a somewhat unreasonable question in my opinion, but everyone has different views ... wink
  45. +1
    April 3 2019 17: 26
    Well now, hold on all the Nobel Prizes will receive Kazakhs ..
    1. +5
      April 3 2019 18: 54
      Quote: Luty
      Well now, hold on all the Nobel Prizes will receive Kazakhs ..

      Nobili is it like the rich in ancient Rome?
      1. +1
        April 3 2019 19: 21
        Who knows, maybe this person is an admirer of Italian airship building.
        1. 0
          April 3 2019 19: 36
          Quote: romb
          Who knows, maybe this person is an admirer of Italian airship building.

          it is unlikely that "Krasin" saved the creator of the awards .... More precisely, the crew of his airship (he himself was taken out by plane)
    2. 0
      April 4 2019 12: 49
      But Cyrillic did not help in this before. First of all, for Russia itself. There she has full Cyrillic, and things in science are still full of seams - only a couple of people over the years have received this award. And then the Jews. lol
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 21: 09
        Quote: romb
        She has complete Cyrillic, and things in science are still full of seams - only a couple of people over the years have received this award. And then the Jews.

        An honest person is ashamed to receive this award.
        1. 0
          April 10 2019 18: 39
          Quote: Setrac
          An honest person is ashamed to receive this award.

          "And you do not take bribes, because you are not given them!" ("Cruel Romance" (c)) ...
          Many Russian scientists were given the Nobel? They gave a couple of scientists, but that's just not the Russian scientists, but the migrant workers working in the West ...
          1. 0
            April 10 2019 22: 07
            Quote: Aposlya
            Many Russian scientists were given the Nobel?

            This award was designated by the enemy for their own, do you seriously think that receiving this award for a Russian scientist is a merit?
            The Nobel Peace Prize received a man who unleashed two wars.
            Nobel Peace Prize.
  46. +1
    April 3 2019 18: 11
    They are the descendants of the ancient Romans, therefore, yearn for the Latin alphabet
    1. 0
      April 4 2019 17: 54
      Take higher - the descendants of the Atlanteans!
      1. -1
        April 4 2019 21: 10
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        Take higher - the descendants of the Atlanteans!

        But Atlantis still exists, only for some reason they began to call it differently.
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  47. +1
    April 3 2019 18: 52
    The transition of the Kazakh language to the Latin alphabet does not affect the cultural and linguistic interests of people who are native speakers of the Russian language. The Russian language will not suffer in any way from changes in the Kazakh alphabet. And Russian-speakers in Kazakhstan didn’t really learn Kazakh in Cyrillic, so worries about the Latin alphabet are not appropriate.
    1. +4
      April 3 2019 19: 23
      Quote: Steen
      . And Russian-speakers in Kazakhstan didn’t really learn Kazakh in Cyrillic, so worries about the Latin alphabet are not appropriate.

      They are pertinent, pertinent, but they think about us about Kazakhs, but they cannot eat.
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          April 4 2019 10: 36
          Quote: already a Muscovite
          . And then the Latin ... Fuu ... Like the Uzbeks ...

          Yes, and like the Turkmen, Azerbaijan, the Turks in most of the countries of Europe, South and North America, Africa, Australia, and all this without Fuu.
        2. +1
          April 4 2019 12: 54
          I wonder where, in what country, where is the Cyrillic alphabet - the people live richly, and the state is socially oriented and fair? Honestly, wherever you look, everywhere there are "Cyrillic" solid third-rate "Honduras" of varying degrees of nasty: Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Bulgaria, etc. crying
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            1. +1
              April 4 2019 21: 50
              Did you want to say something? I did not understand the course of your spontaneous thoughts. This, I think, was an action of uncontrolled brain activity. laughing
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                  April 4 2019 22: 53
                  So I don’t understand you in Cyrillic. Where are you to the Latin alphabet. First Cyrillic ...
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          2. +1
            April 4 2019 21: 13
            Quote: romb
            It is interesting, but where, in which country, where there is Cyrillic - the people live richly

            ALL countries in which the Latin alphabet is godless countries, poor in spirit. The Latin alphabet is the alphabet of Satan.
            1. +1
              April 4 2019 21: 48
              ... the Latin alphabet - godless countries, poor in spirit. The Latin alphabet is the alphabet of Satan.

              I'd like to think that such declarations are your humor. belay
              Indeed, a normal person, I think, will not write such things in all seriousness. I’m even afraid to think that you really think so. If so, then it is really scary. First of all, for your relatives and friends.
              1. 0
                April 4 2019 22: 17
                Quote: romb
                I'd like to think that such declarations are your humor.

                Every joke has a fraction ... jokes, and everything else is harsh truth.
                Do you seriously think that countries such as the United States, Israel, Japan, Germany, France, Britain - have earned their capital by honest labor? Deceit, robbery, forgery, slave trade, loan interest - do you think that nations whose wealth is based on IT are these nations with God?
                Or do you hope that you will become like them?
                Quote: romb
                If so, then it is really scary.

                Fear for your relatives. I am an honest person, my relatives have nothing to fear.
                1. 0
                  April 4 2019 22: 29
                  It doesn’t matter how they made it - it’s important that they have it now. And they have in every sense of the economic and social component, incomparably more than the midnight Russia, which sits on the richest resources, and cannot even provide a decent degree for its citizens. This is sad.
                  1. +1
                    April 4 2019 22: 48
                    Quote: romb
                    It doesn’t matter how they made it - it’s important that they have it now.

                    It is important that you DO NOT compare with THIS way and no Latin will help you. Important - you will be among those whom they rob to live better than you.
                    Quote: romb
                    incomparably more than the midnight Russia, which sits on the richest resources, and can not even provide a decent degree for its citizens

                    We would have to live like in Korea - to live in pencil cases, pay a mortgage for one hundred years, 10 hours a worker, six days a week, a day, 10 days a year on vacation. Grace.
                    1. 0
                      April 4 2019 22: 58
                      So why not live with a 4-dollar wage. This is not your pathetic 15 thousand wooden ones.
                      1. +1
                        April 4 2019 23: 07
                        Quote: romb
                        So why not live with a 4-dollar wage. This is not your pathetic 15 thousand wooden ones.

                        You have misconceptions about salaries abroad, so you can live for 400 bucks.
                      2. 0
                        April 4 2019 23: 21
                        This is where in Korea or Germany, a salary of 400 bucks?
                      3. +1
                        April 4 2019 23: 25
                        Quote: romb
                        This is where in Korea or Germany, a salary of 400 bucks?

                        Yes, everywhere .400 bucks is the salary of a HIGHLY paid employee., The bulk of people live an order of magnitude poorer.
                      4. 0
                        April 10 2019 19: 13
                        400 bucks, this is for your salary of a "HIGHLY PAID" employee ... how low your bar has dropped ...
                      5. 0
                        April 10 2019 22: 03
                        Quote: Aposlya
                        400 bucks, this is for your salary of a "HIGHLY PAID" employee ... how low your bar has dropped ...

                        Piglet, 4000 bucks, 400 - the salary of an ordinary employee or worker.
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                      April 4 2019 23: 20
                      So I do not declare that we are so exceptional. Unlike some that live in Muhos ... kah. And at the same time, ambition like that of the Prince of Monaco. You are confusing something. wink
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                        April 4 2019 23: 40
                        Request: what you wrote here right now, re-read it very slowly (in your case, by word-ha-m). And now again. And then try to turn on the brain a little:
                        Who is talking about Kazakhstan that he is rich? Where did you get this heresy? Do you have intoxication? Or toxicosis.
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                      4. +1
                        April 5 2019 07: 51
                        Do you, with such a level of intelligence, try to discuss using rhetorical techniques. laughing
                        And where do these two old men and the Latin come from? If you are trying to draw an analogy, then do it right. Well, I’ll write back to you, the same stupid analogy, like: in Russia, tens of millions of beggars and almost half of the population are sitting on the hawthorn, and they are there, climbing (crawling) to teach others. Do not be stupid a. crying
                        Well, honestly, where are you going, and the Moscow clown? In Russian, you can’t even sensibly convey your idea, and there, another semi-literate special Natsik in Kazakh Latin
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    2. -1
      April 3 2019 19: 39
      Somewhere we already went through this phasing of eradication ..
      1. +1
        April 3 2019 22: 41
        ..I didn’t write like that ^. In the schools of Kazakhstan, the Russian language is studied along with Kazakh.
  48. -4
    April 3 2019 18: 58
    This is not our ally, we must close the border with them and introduce visas!
    1. +4
      April 3 2019 19: 28
      I read all this, I can say one thing - with such bazaars Russia will never have allies, because rotten everything climbs. Who cares what is being done in another country? Want the prosperity of the Cyrillic alphabet? Well, let's start by starting to develop technology, move science and produce machines, devices, things are different. You look and begin to study Russian from a clear perspective, as it was during the USSR. Or not, to cry and hait more familiar?
      1. +2
        April 4 2019 23: 27
        Quote: Ugolek
        Want the prosperity of the Cyrillic alphabet? Well, let's start by starting to develop technology, move science and produce machines, devices, things are different.
        It dawns on me from comments: continuous snot - from tear-snotty resentment to angry napping of snotty bubbles. What can this be achieved? Can you change something, scare someone or arouse respect for yourself? Only contemptuous ridicule, which has nothing to answer. Kazakhs and no one else should control their language.
    2. 0
      April 4 2019 17: 53
      Do you have any allies ????????!
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 21: 14
        Quote: Qazaq 1974
        Do you have any allies ????????!

        Are allies whose friendships they have to buy?
        And who are your allies?
        1. 0
          April 5 2019 17: 57
          First you answer! Do you have allies? Gather spirit and courage answer my question and then I will answer you!
          1. -1
            April 5 2019 19: 26
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            First you answer! Do you have allies? Gather spirit and courage answer my question and then I will answer you!

            Russia has allies. But here it is necessary to decide in what matter. You say against whom and I will say who exactly. But you tell me about the allies of Kazakhstan.
            There is Mongolia - which has never betrayed Russia.
            1. -1
              April 5 2019 20: 10
              Mongolia!!!!!!! )))))))))))))))
              Well, at least Belarus ?! NO?!
              Poor fellow, he accepted Mongolia as an ally! ))) I feel sorry for you, brother.
              1. 0
                April 5 2019 20: 13
                Quote: Qazaq 1974
                Mongolia!!!!!!! )))))))))))))))
                Well, at least Belarus ?! NO?!

                You needed one ally from the principle - I did not begin to list everyone, Uzbek.
                Quote: Qazaq 1974
                Poor fellow, he accepted Mongolia as an ally! ))) I feel sorry for you, brother.

                As there are allies of Kazakhstan, bring at least one.
                Russia??? Q.E.D.
  49. 0
    April 3 2019 19: 31
    He also called this initiative one of the main stages of the spiritual modernization of the country.

    Well, perhaps "spiritual"! fool
    Le [right] [/ right] some excuses!
    However, whatever the child would amuse, if only he would not hold his hands under the covers!
  50. -1
    April 3 2019 19: 36
    Nazarbayev could not stand the pressure, and the subsequent execution of shameful innovations. Is the similar already well-tested in neighboring independent entities. Does this miracle worker still not squeal on great historical books?
  51. -1
    April 3 2019 19: 38
    Another one fell for the promises of the West!
  52. +1
    April 3 2019 20: 05
    Tokayev said that most of the neighboring countries chose the Latin script

    For example China, Russia? These are the most significant neighbors of Kazakhstan.
    Kyrgyzstan still has the Cyrillic alphabet, leaving only Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Moreover, for both of them, the transition to the Latin alphabet is very stalled. Nah, strong arguments...
  53. -1
    April 3 2019 20: 39
    We should switch straight to hieroglyphs, but replacing the Cyrillic alphabet with the Latin alphabet will not make you understand foreign languages ​​better laughing
    1. 0
      April 4 2019 17: 52
      Let's move on, just don't screw it up yourself!
  54. 0
    April 3 2019 21: 11
    I wonder in which banks and in what currency it is located and what its condition is. If Kazakhstan doesn’t want to switch to the Latin alphabet, how much and in what currency will Tokayev lose, and if he switches, how much will he be paid for it?
  55. +3
    April 3 2019 23: 33
    Enchanting nonsense of Nazarbai, who has lost his mind! And this ass just repeats his words! Against the backdrop of a failed economic policy and the poverty of the ordinary population of Kazakhstan, they are throwing this bone to the hungry people in the hope of briefly shutting their mouths and finding at least some kind of unifying idea, playing on the national inferiority complex.
  56. 0
    April 4 2019 05: 32
    Kazakhs are such narrow-eyed Ukrainians! For them, everything Russian is like a bone in the throat. Tokayev needs to re-read Krylov's Quartet and understand that no matter how you sit, no matter what letters you write, it won't add up to anything in your head.
    1. +1
      April 4 2019 17: 51
      Are Russians big-eyed?
  57. +1
    April 4 2019 06: 58
    After reading all the comments, it becomes clear why you, dear Russians, are left alone in the whole world. And you have no allies. And no friends. Because you are aggressive, and these comments reveal rabid revanchism and past imperial ambitions that should already be forgotten. Because you squandered what your ancestors conquered. Now shut up. It’s none of your business now - if the Kazakhs want to, they will introduce hieroglyphs - it’s none of your business. Sit and watch.
    1. +4
      April 4 2019 13: 18
      Never mind. In the Russian environment, this is a normal attitude towards this process. And whoever is indignant is most often all separate groups of nationalistically minded losers in life, who imagine themselves to be imperialists. They themselves cannot do anything and are afraid of everything, so they pour out their bile by pouring water on the affairs of others. Their life credo is known: we can’t do it in real life, so at least we’ll show ourselves in the virtual))
    2. 0
      April 4 2019 21: 19
      Quote: East of Kazakhstan
      It’s none of your business now - if the Kazakhs want to, they will introduce hieroglyphs - it’s none of your business. Sit and watch.

      That's right, keep up the good work. Not only will Crimea be OURS, but also Northern Kazakhstan will be OURS.
      1. +2
        April 4 2019 21: 42
        First of all, stop paying tribute to the Caucasus. And it will be seen there. wink
        1. -1
          April 4 2019 22: 10
          Quote: romb
          First of all, stop paying tribute to the Caucasus. And it will be seen there.

          And how much “tribute” was paid to Crimea!!! The bridge alone is worth it.
          1. +2
            April 4 2019 22: 13
            An attempt to laugh it off and move it in a different direction is ridiculous. But the fact remains: this is a tribute, albeit in a veiled, civilized (not offensive to the majority) form.
            1. -1
              April 4 2019 22: 29
              Quote: romb
              An attempt to laugh it off and move it in a different direction is ridiculous.

              Well, of course, Russia pays tribute to Primorye, Altai Territory, Crimea, Chechnya, Staropol, Bashkirtostan, more than a third of the regions are subsidized, and all of them are “tribute”
              The European Union pays tribute to the Baltic states, Poland, Romania, Portugal, Bulgaria, Romania, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Greece - they all imposed tribute on the European Union, these are the “scoundrels”.
              And here is a list of states that imposed tribute on Washington - South Carolina, Dakota, Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Hawaii, Missouri, New Mexico, Connecticut, Virginia.
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                April 4 2019 22: 35
                Well, only they do not receive significant financial bonuses for their loyalty to the center. And the center is not shaking and is not afraid of any excesses with the possible rise of certain regional-national centers of power, for example, Romania or Greece.
                I smiled at your attempt to draw an analogy between Romania and Chechnya. Do we believe this ourselves? feel
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                  April 4 2019 22: 50
                  Quote: romb
                  Well, only they do not receive significant financial bonuses for their loyalty to the center.

                  These are your fantasies, no one is interested in them.
                  Quote: romb
                  I smiled at your attempt to draw an analogy between Romania and Chechnya. Do we believe this ourselves?

                  Quote: romb
                  the fact remains: this is a tribute, albeit in a veiled, civilized (not offensive to the majority) form.

                  You decide whether to put on your underpants or take off your cross.
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                    April 4 2019 22: 57
                    These are your fantasies, no one is interested in them.

                    So I brought you a well-known fact of the real state of affairs, and you are all hovering somewhere: thinking about Europe and the Americas.
                    You decide whether to put on your underpants or take off your cross.

                    You tell yourself this more often. Otherwise, your saying alone is worth something about the Satanic Latin alphabet. crying
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                      April 4 2019 23: 06
                      Quote: romb
                      So I brought you a well-known fact of the real state of affairs, and you are all hovering somewhere: thinking about Europe and the Americas.

                      I gave you the real facts of subsidized countries and states, you refute them and then write your nonsense about “tribute”.
                      Quote: romb
                      You tell yourself this more often.

                      It’s the same as the Russians dating something - it’s giving, like Washington or Brussels dating something - it’s not a tribute. You just have double-entry bookkeeping in your head - Russophobic.
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                        April 4 2019 23: 10
                        Quote: romb
                        Otherwise, your saying alone is worth something about the Satanic Latin alphabet.

                        Do you seriously think that murder, robbery, slave trading, usury are godly things?
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                        April 4 2019 23: 17
                        Does Russia, as a power, feed on flowers and show a true example of immeasurable altruism and philanthropy?
                        If so, then why do you need the army and law enforcement agencies, courts, prosecutors, banking system, collection offices. Dissolve. Highly spiritual and humane Russia does not need them.
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                        April 4 2019 23: 23
                        Quote: romb
                        Does Russia, as a power, feed on flowers and show a true example of immeasurable altruism and philanthropy?

                        Well, Russia does not rob other countries, does not destroy peoples, it helps precisely out of the altruism inherent in the northern peoples. You southerners won’t understand this; you will survive according to wolf laws.
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                        April 4 2019 23: 13
                        And where, may I ask, does Russia date Kazakhstan? You really intrigued me.
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                        April 4 2019 23: 21
                        Quote: romb
                        And where, may I ask, does Russia date Kazakhstan?

                        Oh my god, who did I contact? You quote where I said that Russia dates Kazakhstan - and then I will answer you.
                        Quote: romb
                        You really intrigued me.

                        These are phantom pains you have from the times of the USSR.
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        April 5 2019 17: 58
        Funny! Now there will be nothing more, yours! Get out of Donbass first!!! )))
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          April 5 2019 19: 23
          Quote: Qazaq 1974
          Funny! Now there will be nothing more, yours! Get out of Donbass first!!! )))

          And we don’t need to get out of it. Whatever they wanted, they annexed - Crimea; whatever they didn’t want, they didn’t annex.
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            April 5 2019 20: 07
            You were stuck there for a long time, Crimean didn’t screw up in Donbass! further - worse! That's all you had enough for! And in Syria, transfer your last money to bombing!!!
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              April 5 2019 20: 10
              Quote: Qazaq 1974
              And in Syria, transfer your last money to bombing!!!

              An incomprehensible passage, Russia produces weapons itself.
              Quote: Qazaq 1974
              The Crimean people did not screw up in Donbass!

              And it won’t fail, the target is not Donbass, but all of Ukraine.
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                April 5 2019 20: 15
                The belly button will come undone! Soon you will have nothing to eat, and you will bomb everything!
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                  April 5 2019 20: 20
                  Quote: Qazaq 1974
                  The belly button gets loose!

                  Getting to Paris and Berlin is a no-brainer. Astana is just a stone's throw away.
                  Quote: Qazaq 1974
                  Soon you will have nothing to eat, and you will bomb everything!

                  Russia is one of the largest food exporters.
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    April 4 2019 09: 56
    Quote: S-Kerrigan
    Houses then remain houses.
    But the barn is a palace ...

    Yes, there are strange inconsistencies in the meanings of words in languages.
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      April 5 2019 04: 42
      Mother Russia has no allies, just like Kazakhstan, but we must be good neighbors! And you don’t need to pay attention to the freaks, let them grumble.
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        April 5 2019 08: 52
        Agree. If only it weren't China. They have been licking their lips at Kazakhstan for a long time... Although they also look greedily at the Far East...
        In general, I personally feel sorry that Russians are leaving Kazakhstan. Good engineers, financiers, doctors, and simply specialists. And just people. Sad. Many of my friends left for Russia and Germany. But in spirit they are still here... and they come often.
        I really have nothing to share with them. And I respect and love them not because of their nationality and other things... But as normal and decent people... And what does the Latin alphabet have to do with it...
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          April 5 2019 09: 18
          Me too, a friend from Kazakhstan. He himself is a Kazakh, but he spits from the Cyrillic alphabet. No matter how the “Kazakh” Maidan turns out. :-)
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            April 5 2019 19: 54
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            No matter how the “Kazakh” Maidan turns out. :-)

            It's inevitable.
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        April 5 2019 19: 54
        Quote: Ugolek
        Mother Russia has no allies

        The question itself is posed incorrectly. There was a war - there were allies. There will be new confrontations - there will be new allies. Allies are not something abstract - just like that.
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          April 6 2019 18: 33
          https://youtu.be/ZN_F-V1Hu0A
          Russian historian - Kazakhs gave statehood to Russia
          look and listen please!
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            April 6 2019 20: 52
            Quote: Qazaq 1974
            https://youtu.be/ZN_F-V1Hu0A

            Oh God, link to YouTube, how we will miss this when Russia is cut off from the Internet.
            Actually, it’s clear where your “knowledge” comes from, YouTube and Wikipedia are your everything.
            Russia was initially a multinational state and the Turks participated in our history like other nations, but the Kazakhs could not give us anything physically; until the 20th century, the Kazakhs simply did not exist.
            And if all Kazakhs are Turks, then not all Turks are Kazakhs.
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                April 7 2019 11: 08
                Quote: Qazaq 1974
                Soon everything will change for you in Russia, you will nurse grandchildren from Kyrgyz, Tajik, Uzbek and Caucasian fathers!

                Why is your fart so loud? Calm down and breathe deeply. Leave your fascist ways, other nations are people too, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks and Caucasians - we welcome everyone, except such Russophobes as some “non-brothers” and “non-sisters”.
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    April 5 2019 05: 26
    I would advise you to immediately switch to Chinese characters - China will be a superpower of the 21st century, looking at how they have taken leaps and bounds to cover the huge gap in literally everything, soon they will be ahead of everyone in everything.
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    April 5 2019 09: 16
    I imagine the works of Pushkin or Ch. Aitmatov - in Cyrillic :-):-)
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      April 5 2019 18: 05
      In Cyrillic?!! The works of these writers have long existed in Russian and Cossack in Cyrillic, there are also translated versions in different languages ​​of the world, what’s so funny?!
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        April 5 2019 18: 13
        I apologize!!! :-) in Latin, of course! :-)
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    April 5 2019 09: 27
    What do you want: he is a “worthy” successor to NurSULTAN. What he says, he will do.
    A step to the right, a step to the left - and you are “unworthy”...
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    April 5 2019 18: 17
    Quote: MIG00001
    I agree with their right, but they asked the people? but no, the top decided to make fun of the people

    Has anyone asked the people in Russia about pensions?
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