New Rammstein music video - provocation or attempt to remind the history of Germany?

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The media is actively discussing the first over the past few years, a clip of the German rock band Rammstein called Germany (Germany), which scored more than 2 million YouTube views in the first four hours.

The video, which lasts for 10 minutes, has acquired the status of scandalous, and this is not accidental. The thing is that at one of the frames of the clip, musicians led by the lead singer Till Lindemann stand against the background of the Nazi concentration camp in striped robes and are preparing for death.



In the opinion of many public and political figures in Germany itself, the Rammstein group went beyond what was permitted, as it used the "inhumanity of the Holocaust and the suffering of millions of people" for promotional purposes and in order to chase the sensation.

According to one of the leading PolitRussia.com, the clip and song are the most powerful provocation that will cause hatred from both right and left forces in Germany. He examines this video in detail from the point of view of political, historical and social contexts and tries to answer the question: “What did the authors want to say with this epic clip called Deutschland?”

One may reproach Rammstein for provocations, however, usually those people who either did not watch the clip from beginning to end, or did not hear the translation of the words of his text, do it, or even make their own judgments using fragmentary data from the Web. The clip actually represents actually history Germany, in which there was much. - Even not so much the story itself, how many attempt to remind it of the living generations of Germans. Or is it different?

By the way, in the same clip there is an episode when prisoners of the concentration camp shoot their executioners. For some reason, this episode is said less.



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  1. -40
    April 3 2019 07: 13
    Quite peculiar and unexpected was the conclusion of the nameless author that the clip ....... actually represents the history of Germany.
    That is, not the propaganda of Nazism, but only history.
    1. +37
      April 3 2019 07: 33
      you just need to know their work and at least read the texts. their whole history was distinguished by the fact that they beat human vices. the heroes of their songs are always flawed people. and to make it completely understandable, the soloist, when asked about his political preference, said that his heart was on his left and not on his right.
      1. -35
        April 3 2019 07: 45
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        the soloist, when asked about his political preference, said that his heart was on his left and not on his right.

        He has a devil sitting in his heart, this can be said with confidence.
        1. +18
          April 3 2019 09: 00
          Quote: bober1982
          He has a devil sitting in his heart, this can be said with confidence.

          Is this Loboda the devil or what? In vain you "run into" Till Lobodovich.
        2. +3
          April 3 2019 09: 28
          "devil", you say, but do you want to warm yourself up soul-saving? and that "created evil" is heresy, however. not good
          1. +4
            April 3 2019 15: 19
            Quote: jmndslthr
            Quote: bober1982
            He has a devil sitting in his heart

            heresy, however. not good
            A cunning beaver ... On the avatar, the cross is Orthodox, and the content is closer to Satanism.
      2. +13
        April 3 2019 10: 26
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        his heart is on his left and not on his right.

        Duc, it is not in vain that the group in its entirety is from the GDR. Yes
      3. 0
        April 4 2019 17: 46
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        you just need to know their work and at least read the texts. their whole history was distinguished by the fact that they beat human vices. the heroes of their songs are always flawed people. and to make it completely understandable, the soloist, when asked about his political preference, said that his heart was on his left and not on his right.

        And the first words of the song are Du Hast))
        1. +2
          April 4 2019 18: 42
          and what's wrong with this phrase?)))
          1. 0
            April 4 2019 18: 49
            With her, everything is very true - their first well-known hit, along with Ikh Wil)))
        2. +1
          April 5 2019 12: 47
          Quote: Krasnodar
          And the first words of the song are Du Hast))

          in general, the video contains a bunch of references to their past hits, because there is "like Snow White" from Sonne
        3. 0
          April 6 2019 07: 24
          du hast or du hasst are two different things
    2. +10
      April 3 2019 08: 46
      Have you fully watched this clip? Or did not see, but I condemn
    3. +5
      April 4 2019 00: 22
      Quote: bober1982
      but just a story.

      That's right, people with a sick imagination and in a children's video will find something with subtext ....
      1. +2
        April 4 2019 11: 45
        Quote: Lara Croft
        That's right, people with a sick imagination and in a children's video will find something with subtext ....

        But I didn’t find anything in the clip, they inflated it from scratch, IMHO. Pleased only with the appearance in the video of Red Brigitte ... The rest is dregs, especially the black woman personifying Germany ...
    4. +7
      April 4 2019 11: 54
      Quote: bober1982
      That is, not the propaganda of Nazism, but only history.

      And where did you respected saw the propaganda of Nazism in this clip ??? Germany is personified by a black woman, and you are talking about Nazism? Take the trouble to translate the text and correlate it with the video sequence - everything will become much clearer. The habit of clicking to good is not good, and this kind of unfounded accusation is a rather dirty provocation.
    5. +8
      April 4 2019 12: 58
      I offer an alternative, everything is very clear here.
  2. +20
    April 3 2019 07: 19
    In the West, they "have gone crazy with the notorious" political correctness "and" tolerance, "and in some countries," Holocaust denial "is a criminal offense. Public people and politicians there are simply afraid to be charged under these" articles ", which means the inevitable end of them. careers and therefore, at the slightest, even innocuous touch of these topics, everyone tries to dissociate themselves from the topic, certainly "to angrily condemn, express their" negative perception ", showing in every possible way that they are" in trend "otherwise booing in all" universal "media, obstruction and career collapse. Well, also, there is mortal boredom, discussing Russia, the threat of SP-2, "helping Ukraine in the fight against Russia" is already, somehow, tired, but here it is so fresh, why wouldn’t it be discouraged in different ways.
    1. Mwg
      +8
      April 4 2019 07: 48
      I read this recently:
      "Now, before you open your mouth, you need to take into account the opinion of feminists, vegans, national and sexual minorities, religious people and animal rights activists. Otherwise, all this offended mass, with its inherent humanity, will tear you apart in the name of humanity."
      In my opinion, reflects modern tolerant reality ..
  3. +18
    April 3 2019 07: 27
    The guys have every right to an objective assessment of the history of their country, but politicians who condone Nazism apparently want a repetition.
    1. +13
      April 3 2019 08: 15
      Exactly! Everyone strives to offend the artist. On the point: quite a normal group, plays normal dynamic music Yes, and I did not see anything provocative in the clip.
  4. -47
    April 3 2019 07: 28
    In the summer, these gentlemen (Rammstain) are going to tour in Russia, and where - in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
    They must be driven to the neck, still at the border.
    1. +21
      April 3 2019 07: 35
      How is it? if you don’t understand the meaning, then let's ban? so what?
      1. -33
        April 3 2019 07: 43
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        if you do not understand the meaning

        History is not studied by clips, and the technologies for propagating any ideas are well known.
        I did not expect so many fans of this musical group, this is the bottom.
        1. +27
          April 3 2019 07: 48
          I tell you, read the lyrics. and think about the words. and this is where the argument ends. the lead singer in general comes from the GDR. loves Vysotsky as he speaks. Do not look for a black cat where it is not.
          1. 0
            April 3 2019 09: 01
            Quote: Bull Terrier
            a soloist from the GDR
            Frau Merkel is also from the GDR ... I consider the hysteria in the German media to be a PR move for the losing position in the band’s homeland.
        2. +18
          April 3 2019 08: 27
          The bottom is churches for a budget account instead of clinics, schools and kindergartens.
          1. -6
            April 3 2019 21: 16
            These polyclinics, schools, and everything else, every day for several pieces in Russia open - for budgetary funds.
            1. +1
              April 7 2019 19: 56
              Quote: Vadim237
              These polyclinics, schools, and everything else, every day for several pieces in Russia open - for budgetary funds.

              Something I don’t remember when the last kindergarten was built in Togliatti. The lines to the gardens are huge, easy to check.
        3. +3
          April 3 2019 16: 57
          Quote: bober1982
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          if you do not understand the meaning

          History is not studied by clips, and the technologies for propagating any ideas are well known.
          I did not expect so many fans of this musical group, this is the bottom.

          Bottom in your head
        4. +1
          April 4 2019 23: 24
          Quote: bober1982
          I did not expect so many fans of this musical group, this is the bottom

          The bottom is labeling, just because the tastes do not coincide, but then there is no need for hypocrisy, he began by accusing him of Nazism, then he began to frighten the devils, then he spread the propaganda technology, but ended up intolerant of musical tastes ...
          Balabol
          1. -1
            April 5 2019 07: 24
            Quote: avdkrd
            Balabol

            I’m hearing from the balabol, but what are you - Cicero?
    2. +3
      April 3 2019 07: 42
      Deny! Not to eat!
      1. +30
        April 3 2019 14: 55
        I never thought that at the Military Review I would intervene for my favorite musical group.
        For someone, Rammstein is a group singing nasty songs about maniacs, murderers, rapists and simply preoccupied, in some places, people. Someone even puts an equal sign between them and neo-Nazis.
        However, if you think a little about having brains, you can see a much deeper meaning in the lyrics of their songs and in their clips on them. Most of their work is aimed at ridiculing various vices and mania, poking a finger at the hidden parts of the audience’s consciousness. Their dirty songs on the topic of sexual perversions make listeners first feel themselves in the shoes of the hero of these lines, and then imbued with contempt for him.
        Take the same song "Mann gegen mann" (can be translated as "man with a man"). Paradoxically, for this song, the German group was accused of both promoting homosexuality and ardent homophobia. The lyrics of the song seem to praise the unconventional sexual orientation of the hero, but "between the lines" one reads his self-hatred, comparing himself with a dirty, lustful animal. And the image of a demon that dominates the minds and bodies of gays, at the end of the video, clearly shows the attitude of the musicians themselves to the growth of homosexuality in the present time (the time is long past, because the song is old).
        "Amerika" is a song that praises the greatness of the United States. In a stunning way, it demonstrates the group's attitude to the World Hegemon. It seems to be sung there about the greatness and power of the United States, but the hidden message of the song is that the Americans have already bored everyone with their freedom and democracy. Country of "Coca-Cola and War", as it is written in the lines of this song. It is not for nothing that for this song the Rammams were banned from giving concerts in America for about ten years (or maybe more, I don’t remember exactly).
        Well, now, a new song. She perfectly showed us and the Germans themselves the history of Germany, without being afraid to recall the horrors of the Nazi regime.
        Well, if someone doesn’t like it, go on, listen to Buzov, yes all sorts of Skriptonites ...
    3. +1
      April 3 2019 08: 16
      Well, here's what to drive?
    4. +1
      April 3 2019 08: 32
      And in pursuit, according to the group of A C DC (I beg your pardon for my English!) Did they hear? So they have letters with lightning in their name in general.
      1. +4
        April 3 2019 09: 07
        Do not confuse. Lightning splits AC / DC letter pairs. Those. lightning (one) instead of a slash. This is a stupid inscription from a transformer: alternating current / direct current. Lightning is a hint of electricity, not what you were thinking.
        1. 0
          April 3 2019 09: 20
          I meant exactly the stylization of writing the name of the group. And the music of these guys I really like.
          1. +2
            April 3 2019 09: 24
            Well, 4 out of 5 logo of metal teams are stylized, the requirements of the genre :)
            1. +1
              April 3 2019 10: 00
              Quote: Gestas
              Well, 4 out of 5 logo of metal teams are stylized, the requirements of the genre :)

              With regards to the stylization of the spelling of the name, the group * Kiss * is also ambiguous, agree?
              1. +1
                April 3 2019 10: 04
                Well so, I say - the requirements of the genre. Although this collector of glam metal, something could mean something. For its time, it’s like Rammstein discussed today, in terms of shocking and the ability to attract the attention of the press and others. Although the sense content of the Kiss is an order of magnitude smaller, there is only one commerce.
          2. +1
            April 3 2019 10: 48
            Quote: Phil77
            I meant exactly the stylization of writing the name of the group. And the music of these guys
            And from stylization the name of the Kiss group with two stylized SSs does not bother you? No need to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if she is not there.
            1. +1
              April 3 2019 12: 52
              And I already answered your question above.
    5. +2
      April 3 2019 08: 59
      Oh, another rabid supporter of some kind of morality.
    6. +4
      April 3 2019 09: 05
      And you stir up a prayer service, or, there, a religious procession along the border ... I don’t know if it will help to cancel the concerts, but at least you will take care of your PGM.
    7. +5
      April 3 2019 13: 10
      So what? normal group, interesting shows
    8. +4
      April 4 2019 10: 53
      vladimir I have not yet met such an open hatred of this group! What has she hurt you so much? Didn't Till give you an autograph? wassat You apparently did not relate to their work) And in fact, few people compare with this group in the audacity of some songs and their videos, which are even more interesting than many films ... in general, cease to envy. And yes, if you don’t like this group, then don’t listen to it and even more so refuse to comment, otherwise their fans will not understand you laughing hi
  5. +12
    April 3 2019 07: 34
    A normal, dynamic clip, like all "Ramstein's", in every country has something to be proud of, afraid and ashamed of, the clip seemed even anti-fascist, maybe that's why the media attacks it?
    1. +6
      April 3 2019 07: 53
      Yes, since 1994, forever someone has been attacking. moreover, everything on the fingers even explained all the same to no avail.
    2. +3
      April 3 2019 09: 11
      Quote: anjey
      the clip seemed even anti-fascist
      rather anti-government in general, anarchist. They walked around the church there, well, at least Catholic, otherwise you would have to hand over tickets - then it would be definitely a concert forbidden :).
      1. +2
        April 3 2019 16: 12
        Quote: Gestas
        Quote: anjey
        the clip seemed even anti-fascist
        rather anti-government in general, anarchist. They walked around the church, well, at least Catholic, ......

        Are interesting Masonic symbols --- a compass and the letter "" G "". Only they didn't draw a square ... On the wall of the room, where the fight is.
        And the church, what the church? In the life of Germans, it takes up less and less space, because "common European values" prevail .... By the way ----- after all, the Lutheran Church is stronger in Germany, and the Catholic Church in Austria. The exaltation of the Black Woman ---- probably reflects fussing with migrants, creating favorable conditions for them ...
        But there is "Ethiopianism" - a Negro religious movement, a mixture of the provisions of Christianity, Islam, Judaism and tribal cults. Founder --- Marcus Garvey. They believe that God drove them out of Africa for their sins, and the white race is the result of witchcraft ... They dream of re-creating the empire of blacks in Africa. Rastafarianism is one of the factions. It is believed that the capital will be in Ethiopia, and the Ark of the Covenant is also hidden there.
  6. +5
    April 3 2019 07: 49
    actually represents the history of Germany

    I would add - uncensored.
  7. -19
    April 3 2019 07: 55
    And then they are surprised where the youth and football fans get such aggressiveness.
    After all, if the concerts take place, what will it be, take Moscow - the huge Luzhniki Stadium, a huge crowd, screech, psychosis, and so on, with all the ensuing consequences, and here they offer to read their historical texts.
    1. +5
      April 3 2019 07: 58
      And then they wonder where the youth’s aggression comes from,

      I will tell you, it may be a secret for you, but aggressiveness for young people is GOOD. You just need to use its creative power for the good.
      1. -3
        April 3 2019 08: 11
        Quote: lucul
        but aggressiveness for youth is GOOD. You just need to use its creative power for the good.

        Moscow, Manezhnaya Square, 2002, commercial from the film, loss to the Japanese. The creative power of youth was clearly not directed toward creation.
        1. +1
          April 3 2019 08: 40
          But it was a typically prepared action! By whom? There are different versions.
    2. +5
      April 3 2019 08: 38
      Yes, Christmas trees, sticks! There were already such concerts in Moscow and nothing bad happened, my younger brother went to this concert (he is a fan of heavy metal). And now I’m quite a respectable person and citizen. Understand that it’s not about music!
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 18: 07
        Quote: Phil77
        Yes, Christmas trees, sticks! There were already such concerts in Moscow and nothing bad happened, my younger brother went to this concert (he is a fan of heavy metal). And now I’m quite a respectable person and citizen. Understand that it’s not about music!

        So metalworkers and informals in Russia, as a rule, are quite competent, educated people)). The bulk are quite respectable and even successful citizens. Maybe it's just the music wink
    3. +4
      April 3 2019 09: 19
      Well, if you like to listen to something else, doesn’t this mean that they should repeat everything after you? everyone has their own tastes. and the texts are offered to you to read not historical but to familiarize yourself with what the compositions of this collective are generally about.
      1. -7
        April 3 2019 09: 41
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        see what the composition of this team.

        Directly the labor collective, well, you picked up the word, chickens to laugh.
        1. +5
          April 3 2019 09: 43
          you did not know about such a value as a musical group?)))
          A musical collective is a collective of people united by a common goal or work, who are somehow connected with music. Usually a musical group consists of musicians, but it may include other musical figures (producers, sound engineers) or people who are not directly involved in creating music (artists, poets, technicians).
          1. -3
            April 3 2019 09: 58
            Quote: Bull Terrier
            collective - a collective of people united by a common goal or work

            C'mon, you throw all this verbal crap. The team, this is nonsense, absurdity and soft-boiled boots.
            If there is a collective, then only in the cemetery:
            And the cemetery is so calm
            Neither enemies nor friends can be seen,
            Everything is culturally, everything is decent.
            1. +4
              April 3 2019 10: 01
              you apparently have all the terms that crap does not fit into your worldview. Well, this is your business of course) there are more people with a normal attitude to ordinary music all the same.
    4. +3
      April 3 2019 11: 27
      huge Luzhniki, 1987, the final of the Union Cup, 80 thousand fans.
      Dn / Minsk-Dn / Kiev; during the break, S, Rotaru and Pesnyary are performing and ... no scuffle !!!
    5. +9
      April 3 2019 11: 37
      And then they are surprised where the youth and football fans get such aggressiveness.

      Have you been to Rammstein concerts? I’ve been - and I can say that it doesn’t smell of aggressiveness there - after leaving the concert, it felt like I was on vacation. So you don’t need to write any nonsense and look for a connection between aggression and the work of the group. Besides fast music, Ramstein has a lot of slow, lyrical songs ... And as for the lyrics, do you think Rammstein fans are like you? They only go to concerts to fill their faces after them and make a mess? They are mostly interested in what is sung in the songs, and at least in general terms, most of them represent at least the general meaning of what they sing ...
  8. +11
    April 3 2019 07: 58
    Normal clip of patriots its homeland. And about the propaganda of fascism - let’s leave it to the Israelis.
    1. +1
      April 3 2019 11: 21
      ... patriots of their GDR homeland ...
    2. 0
      April 4 2019 18: 08
      Quote: andranick
      Normal clip of patriots its homeland. And about the propaganda of fascism - let’s leave it to the Israelis.


      Maybe the Italians? laughing
  9. +3
    April 3 2019 08: 01
    Quote: andranick
    Normal clip patriots of their homeland

    There is - you can’t buy such shekels ....
  10. +2
    April 3 2019 08: 06
    I watched the clip. Well, as I looked, I turned it off in the third minute. I don't like the work of this group. Their work is not for everybody. Our Russian rock "Aria", Kish, "Black coffee", Garik Sukachev is closer to me. So, I can't say something good or bad about the video and about the Rammstein group itself.
  11. +15
    April 3 2019 08: 09
    bober1982 what are you eating? Do not like it - do not look and do not listen. The guys really worry about their country. But you won’t erase a word from history.
    In my opinion, it’s simply a fantastic work that will make you think about your future Germans mired in imposed tolerance and a complex of guilt. Til really stirred up this swamp. A friend from Munich writes that there simply hysteria reigns on all channels. )))
    Indeed, in fact, the overseas "friends" just like Russia want to destroy Germany. Well, not in the same way, but they do not need such powerful competitors a priori.
    1. -8
      April 3 2019 08: 26
      Quote: Tolyamba Zamkadsky
      In my opinion, just a fantastic job

      Rock music is a philosophy of absurdity and the beauty of ugliness, an escape into oneself, a desire to hide from the world in a dustbin, and a replacement of the usual norms of communication with cynicism and demon possession. This is a vicious denial of innate morality.
      I will not indicate the author for the reason that there is no reason for too much honor for the gopniks.
      1. +5
        April 3 2019 09: 18
        Have you heard the phrase "Christian rock"? Are you not familiar with the work and biography of at least Shevchuk or Kinchev? Then what to argue about? - you talk about what you do not know, do not understand and for some reason are afraid of this.
        1. -5
          April 3 2019 09: 45
          Quote: Gestas
          Have you heard the phrase "Christian rock"?

          No "Christian" rock exists and cannot exist.
          Ordinary atheists and theomachists are more sympathetic and harm less from them than from these representatives of "Christian" rock.
          Quote: Gestas
          At least Shevchuk or Kinchev are not familiar with the work and biography?

          These are not far from the Germans.
          1. +2
            April 3 2019 09: 57
            Your peremptoryism discourages any desire to argue, in view of the apparent futility, but still, let me ask, and you yourself belong to which denomination? I just want to understand examples from which area to refer, otherwise you’re either a Jehovah’s Witness or a Scientologist.
            Threat. I, if anything, an atheist in infancy baptized in Orthodoxy.
            1. +3
              April 3 2019 11: 08
              Quote: Gestas
              Your peremptoryism discourages any desire to argue, in view of the apparent futility, but still, let me ask, and you yourself belong to which denomination? I just want to understand examples from which area to refer, otherwise you’re either a Jehovah’s Witness or a Scientologist.
              Threat. I, if anything, an atheist in infancy baptized in Orthodoxy.

              Can I get in here? Yes, spit on this beaver, in the film "We are from jazz" his ancestors sit in the artistic council laughing
              1. +4
                April 3 2019 11: 47
                Richard Dawkins fires in my brain laughing
                It just seems to me that Comrade Beaver subtly trolls us, metal fans. It burns our farts :), and he giggles quietly under his favorite Skillet tracks. Trying to bring him to clean water. And if this is not so, then even more so - a nickname obliges.
                1. -2
                  April 3 2019 12: 10
                  Quote: Gestas
                  trolls us

                  I don’t care about all of you. Judge for yourself, so what are you all surrendering to me. In general, I don’t listen to any music, unless at work, but you can’t get anywhere here, sometimes I listen to military marches, a little weakness, but rarely on holidays.
                  In my youth I was, as you put it ...metal manbut this nonsense is long gone.
                  1. +2
                    April 3 2019 12: 18
                    So maybe you haven’t seen the clip discussed in the article? Then, where did you form your opinion of him? Parsnip did not read ..?
                    And, let me say, a sense of humor - it, in principle, is a useful thing.
                    1. -1
                      April 3 2019 12: 25
                      Quote: Gestas
                      So maybe you haven’t seen the clip discussed in the article?

                      Of course I didn’t look, God forbid.
                      Quote: Gestas
                      Then, where did you form your opinion of him?

                      After all, I gave authoritative opinions, I emphasize - not mine, do you want me to give a lecture with an indication of the sources.
                      Quote: Gestas
                      Parsnip did not read ..?

                      Of course I didn’t read, it’s impossible to read by the fourth page, then you read what’s at the end of the book and what’s in the middle, if not lazy.
                      1. +2
                        April 3 2019 12: 54
                        Quote: bober1982
                        After all, I gave authoritative opinions, I emphasize - not mine, do you want me to give a lecture with an indication of the sources.
                        You know, I want to. I want you to indicate the source of this "authoritative" opinion:
                        Quote: bober1982
                        He has a devil sitting in his heart, this can be said with confidence.
                        , or this:
                        Quote: bober1982
                        In ancient times, all pagan holidays were accompanied by music and orgies, music brought people to a state of rage. And now, groups like this German have succeeded all these pagan cults, and young people are running to concerts literally - in the madness of Satanism.
                        , or maybe this:
                        Quote: bober1982
                        No "Christian" rock exists and cannot exist.

                        Well, let alone the fact that you didn’t recognize the quote from Pasternak, I’d better not say anything. Perhaps Comrade Max Otto was right:
                        Quote: Max Otto
                        Yes, you spit on this beaver,
                      2. -1
                        April 3 2019 13: 19
                        Quote: Gestas
                        Well, let alone the fact that you didn’t recognize the quote from Pasternak

                        Dear comrade, I was crucified about the fourth page, and you told me about some quotation with Pasternak, how could I know if I said in plain text that I didn’t read it. Indeed, it is better to remain silent here.
                        Quote: Gestas
                        You know, I want to. I want you to indicate the source of this "authoritative" opinion:

                        This authoritative source is the Church itself.
                      3. +1
                        April 3 2019 13: 34
                        Quote: bober1982
                        This authoritative source is the Church itself.
                        Excerpt from Wikipedia, but the group and its website have:
                        Creation of the Sons of Russia group
                        For several years now, Fr. Raphael wanted to create a music group. In 2005, Hierodeacon Raphael receives from Fr. Elijah is a blessing on the creation of an Orthodox musical group and creates the group “Sons of Russia”. The work of Hierodeacon Rafail was also blessed by Patriarch Cyril.
                        There are other examples, though not many. So, the Church does not agree with you. If this is certainly not the Church of the Seventh-day Prophets, but you have not answered on this point.
                      4. 0
                        April 3 2019 13: 39
                        Quote: Gestas
                        Creation of the Sons of Russia group

                        Yes, you do not tell.
                        Quote: Gestas
                        There are other examples, though not many.

                        Unfortunately, there are a lot of these examples, not only the world, but also the Church on the threshold of the Apocalypse (not I said)
                        Quote: Gestas
                        but on this point you did not answer.

                        You yourself answered for me on this point, why fool around.
                      5. +1
                        April 3 2019 17: 12
                        Quote: bober1982
                        Quote: Gestas
                        Well, let alone the fact that you didn’t recognize the quote from Pasternak

                        Dear comrade, I was crucified about the fourth page, and you told me about some quotation with Pasternak, how could I know if I said in plain text that I didn’t read it. Indeed, it is better to remain silent here.
                        Quote: Gestas
                        You know, I want to. I want you to indicate the source of this "authoritative" opinion:

                        This authoritative source is the Church itself.

                        How are you baptized? Two fingers or three?
              2. +1
                April 3 2019 13: 16
                [Max Otto = quote] in the film "We are from jazz" his ancestors are sitting in the artistic council laughing[/ Quote]
                He was there in the artistic councils, probably the truth later.
      2. +2
        April 3 2019 12: 20
        I will not indicate the author for the reason that there is no reason for too much honor for the gopniks.
        This is who you deigned to call "gopniks"? Those who have a different opinion? Well, you are going the right way, Mr. future (or is it already real?) Fascist ...
      3. 0
        April 3 2019 16: 01
        Quote: bober1982
        malicious denial of innate morality.
        Your posts can serve as a training manual for bots, which, under the guise of an Orthodox, should cause negative feelings towards all Orthodox. This is the same militant ignorance ("I have not heard, but I condemn"), which is often found among the "communists" who did not read Marx meaningfully, but use scraps of Marxist discourse to humiliate their opponents. Meanwhile, Orthodox Christians and Communists are the two largest social groups in the Russian Federation, whose political unification could change the policy of the state, making it more aimed at the good of the people. If we leave aside as unimportant their metaphysical divergences (is there a God and a soul), but keep the general principle of political action - people are more important than money ("a person's heart is on the left"). The faithful will easily join him. In the vastness of Eurasia, there can be no other unifying ideology, and any militant atheism or confession only sow discord and weaken society.
      4. +1
        April 4 2019 12: 03
        Quote: bober1982
        I will not indicate the author for the reason

        Why are you taking it out of context? Let's completely:
        ... and aesthetics, like ancient lies, and their replacement with the cult of ugliness and shamelessness, as a new religion.
        Rock music is the replacement of the image of God in the soul with the image of the fallen first angel. The sounds of rock music are like the brush of a mad artist who paints the dark face of Satan like an icon on the wall of a ruined temple. The convulsing sounds of rock, similar to moans, laughter and howl are the mysticism of hell and the magic of perverted passions; these are convulsions and wheezing of death throes, tears of unspeakable pain, and demonic laughter at the grave of humanity. "

        Do you know what it's called? Obscurantism! Or something you understood, simpler - Obscurantism!
        What's next? Wrong books to burn? And then wrong of people?
        Quote: bober1982
        too much honor for the gopniks.

        And there are gopniks from Orthodoxy - you are a typical example of this, an Orthodox gopnik ...
        1. 0
          April 4 2019 14: 28
          Quote: AllXVahhaB
          Obscurantism!

          And here is how "real guys" openly assess their "brilliant" creativity - Rock has always been and will be the music of the devil., rock star David Bowie, said extremely concisely, clearly and intelligibly.
          1. 0
            April 4 2019 14: 44
            Quote: bober1982
            And here is how "real guys" frankly assess their "brilliant" creativity - Rock has always been and will be the music of the devil., Rock star David Bowie, it is said extremely succinctly, clearly and intelligibly.

            And who is the devil? Bnei Ha-Elohim or howled, that is, "the son of God," the first angel to rebel against the Father's dispotia. If we consider rock music as a subculture of protest, then in some ways he is right ...
            1. -2
              April 4 2019 14: 50
              Everything is clear with you, but not everything is lost, with sincere repentance God will forgive.
              1. +1
                April 4 2019 14: 51
                Quote: bober1982
                Everything is clear with you, but not everything is lost, with sincere repentance God will forgive.

                By the way, I still do not understand which denomination you belong to?
                1. -1
                  April 4 2019 14: 57
                  But, because you supplemented me with an excerpt from the article, everything is written there about the denomination.
                  1. +1
                    April 4 2019 15: 07
                    Quote: bober1982
                    But, because you supplemented me with an excerpt from the article, everything is written there about the denomination.

                    It is clear that we are of the same faith and adhere to opposing views on certain things. I dare to suggest that you are churches, relatively recently. Extreme, immature glances are characteristic of the newly converted. I have more extensive cultural and theological baggage, simply by virtue of origin. This is my great-grandfather:
                    https://ru.openlist.wiki/Куропаткин_Евфимий_Садокович_(1896)
    2. +2
      April 3 2019 10: 39
      So I think the same thing. The fact that the half-clip is ruled by the Germans the black bitch (the mother of the dog) is a shhh. Talking about it is uninteresting. So they clung to a swastika flashed somewhere. The hysteria is quite predictable, and what exactly is it that the clip is really provocative. But what, one cannot say about this, tolerance. But I want to, well, at least somehow express myself.
      The promise of the clip for me is so quite simple. Indigenous Germans in the region are already zadolbeno come migrants. But say a word about it, immediately accused of Nazism. The Germans do not even need to invent anything. An unenviable position. And the fact that Nazism itself didn’t bring anything good to the Germans and themselves, but who cares now?
      1. +3
        April 3 2019 10: 50
        "Black bitch" does not rule, this is Germany, which is directly written in the credits. But if Germany were portrayed by a blond Valkyrie, that would be howling.
        1. +2
          April 3 2019 10: 55
          In languages ​​is not strong. But in principle, the hint is clear. Germany is already not white. And you say white - a fascist. That in general, we all boil with this and confirm.
          If all summarized, it can be expressed in three words. Tolerance tolerance tolerants.

          Anyone else would have written a translation of the text. So, for a complete understanding.
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          2. 0
            April 3 2019 11: 14
            Germany (translation of TMellark)

    3. +1
      April 4 2019 12: 23
      It is amazing why the site always has some kind of pathological love for Germany, bordering on worship, a comparison of Russia and Germany, a dream of an alliance with Germany, it would be time to understand long ago that Germany is a country full of political losers, a country that initiated two world wars and lost both , the country for the first time in history reached an unconditional surrender, while the Germans lost their culture and history, although in this story there was nothing but senseless bloody trampling on a piece of Europe and the fulfillment of the will of other powers.
      This, by the way, is fully reflected in the clip, the whole dead end of German history, and the Rammstein group is undoubtedly one of the brightest stars in the dim horizon of modern emasculated and Americanized German culture
      1. +1
        April 4 2019 19: 54
        I didn’t notice much love for Germany on the site, but to say that this country sucks and losers is unjust, to put it mildly, and firmly speaking, there is a very large trace of German in the history of mankind and this is a fact .. in any case with respect to its past .. as for the union .. and with whom would you consider the union to be really strong now for us? with Moldova? the allies of Russia with the Germans were always afraid of the goblocks, precisely because it’s almost the only alliance that can move them now .. and it’s being Americanized now in not only Germany, but the whole world .. and the fact that they also have those who don’t like, not bad at all .. P.S. do not confuse patriotism with fascism
  12. +2
    April 3 2019 08: 23
    Quote: bober1982
    Quote: lucul
    but aggressiveness for youth is GOOD. You just need to use its creative power for the good.

    Moscow, Manezhnaya Square, 2002, commercial from the film, loss to the Japanese. The creative power of youth was clearly not directed toward creation.

    It just shows the presence of beta males in the youth section - they are selected from childhood (if it’s smart) and from childhood they are sent to the Suvorov / Nakhimov school. Under the wise guidance of them, beautiful warriors are born who will stand guard over the country. And the power of the state earlier - was equal to the presence of such guys in society - the more of them in percentage terms, the more powerful the state was militarily.
    But you don’t understand this for the Jews - you have all the alpha / beta - the males were still cut to zero by the Romans, but you yourself got rid of them later, they are violent, and without them it’s easier to survive on your own territory. Only from the moment of the formation of Israel (1947), you began to revise your policy — the state must be protected, but the gamma-males are little adapted to this — they prefer a lending rate than war.
    Therefore - the fact that we see a riot of football fans in Russia is just a flaw in the authorities (incompetent people are doing this) - let it go by itself .....
  13. +2
    April 3 2019 08: 34
    Good video. Who else will remind the Germans of the "unpleasant" moments of history. And Lindemann on American channels? An excellent symbol.
  14. +5
    April 3 2019 08: 42
    A good clip, but I’m afraid that their attempt to reach the Germans’s consciousness will fail, now few people want to think about both the past and the future ....
    And to be honest, I didn’t see anything there, it’s rather their view of the history of the country, moreover, a cursory ....
  15. -8
    April 3 2019 08: 52
    The level of naivety of the comments is simply amazing.
    In ancient times, all pagan holidays were accompanied by music and orgies, music brought people to a state of rage.
    And now, groups such as this German have succeeded all these pagan cults, and young people are running to concerts literally - into the madness of Satanism.
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 09: 10
      chants and organs from houses of a special shape with geometric decorations should also be described, festivities "like those of the pagans" should not be approved, or somehow inconsistently, and indeed any symbolism, all decorations, the pagans over there in Rome also decorated - no, only catacombs, "fish" between them, prohibit the holy fools raging on the porch ..
    2. +5
      April 3 2019 09: 26
      Are you an Old Believer or something? that's life. modern world. own music. there is no need for moralizing on this subject, and then at such a pace you will now begin to explain to everyone what blondes are better than brunettes. leave people the right to think for themselves what style of music is closer to them. I listen to such music for many years. something on the orgy and the gatherings of the Satanists does not pull)
      1. -2
        April 3 2019 09: 47
        I am not an Old Believer, and I do not do moralizing, I just expressed my opinion.
        1. +5
          April 3 2019 09: 54
          go hangover better
          1. -3
            April 3 2019 10: 04
            Quote: Dangerous
            go hungover

            I do not often drink alcohol, and even those in small doses, I do not need to hangover.
        2. +2
          April 3 2019 09: 58
          opinion is an opinion. and your teachings like everyone here are naive and the fans of this group are not the bottom of the opinion, but an attempt to blame us for something. understand the difference? I can tell you that you are a retrograde and are stuck in some kind of my world, but I do not.
          1. -3
            April 3 2019 11: 38
            Quote: Bull Terrier
            and your teachings by type are all here

            I repeat once again that I’m not doing any moralizing, I don’t care who and where goes to any concerts.
            Music can destroy the state, as Plato said, and therefore all these upcoming adventures of the Germans in Russia are not so harmless.
            1. 0
              April 3 2019 11: 39
              Tipo you do not mind that their first concert in Russia was in 2001?)))
      2. 0
        April 3 2019 18: 04
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        Are you an Old Believer or something?
        The Old Believer will never climb into a strange monastery with his charter. Rather, a troll.
  16. +6
    April 3 2019 09: 08
    in the video, a lot of things are interesting to go down to discuss the hatred of Jews towards all of humanity.
    1. +3
      April 3 2019 09: 15
      Yes, almost immediately came the culturological analysis of all the images from U-bot on the moon base, to priests with the Nazis hugging many pages
  17. +2
    April 3 2019 09: 24
    Quote: jmndslthr
    Yes, almost immediately came the culturological analysis of all the images from U-bot on the moon base, to priests with the Nazis hugging many pages

    Yes, there is the main thing in the video - when this black woman (Germany) lies on the table - and she is eaten still alive.
  18. 0
    April 3 2019 09: 40
    The video should remind the people of Germany of what the "hanged" turned their country, their people ..
  19. +2
    April 3 2019 10: 06
    Germany needs a patriotic breakthrough to get off the hook of external control. The clip should open the young German's eyes on which they have a bonded veil. By the way, the name of the group is designed to remind them of external control.
  20. 0
    April 3 2019 10: 35
    The image of Germany in the form of a black woman? So as not to blame racism? laughing
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 11: 20
      Why? On the contrary. Look, in the USA they came running with the rights of blacks to the black president, why in Germany some Arab cannot become chancellor?
      1. -2
        April 3 2019 11: 27
        laughing laughing laughing
        Mom Merkel will try
      2. 0
        April 3 2019 18: 05
        Or a Jew ...
    2. +3
      April 3 2019 12: 14
      I think this is a pagan unbridled consciousness. Unrecognized chaos. Primitiveness.
  21. +2
    April 3 2019 12: 08
    What to expect from Ramstein?
    Fursov A.I. MEANING: "I was waiting for Germany to wake up and rise, charisma, the energy of Ramstein's music and so on would wake her up. But no, the Anglo-Saxons killed the spirit of Goethe and Schiller in her."
    New Rammstein music video - provocation or attempt to remind the history of Germany?

    Rave. This is just horror before the future of their homeland.
    I am sure that our future is different, for a different history and culture.
    1. +1
      April 3 2019 13: 02
      What to expect from Ramstein? .Mavrikiy
      Yes, indeed, A. I. Fursov in several stories suggests that the greater potential for restoring Schiller’s spirit lies precisely in the inhabitants of the former GDR — multiculturalism, revelation to emigrants, tolerance are more developed in the former FRG. After Germany, after 2MB, it was under pressure from the United States and for more than 70 years, as it is practically a US colony. Accordingly, some %%% men want to be housewives ---- all kinds of LGBT people there, same-sex marriages ---- an experiment by the United States political technologies on the nation. And now the situation is such that practically it’s impossible to talk about it ----- . Since the declared values ​​of the EU ---- are contrary to patriotism, the family, and most importantly --- the rights of minorities to observe, even LGBT people, even visitors.
      Article A.I. Fursova was in the newspaper TOMORROW last year .----- NOTHING HOUSE --- EUROPE.
      Brzezinski had some words, they say, we are fighting the spirit of Schiller .... I forgot .... ????
  22. +2
    April 3 2019 12: 19
    This is a music video and not a watered program.
  23. +4
    April 3 2019 12: 21
    It’s just a grandiose video clip in every sense, the message that Germany is a black woman and this is the reality of this era, and as the zeppelin Hindenburg was burning, it becomes clear that dark forces come to power, I would compare this video with the picture of Ilya Glazunov Eternal Russia, only with reference to Germany.
  24. Quote: Yuri_999
    Rammstein called Deutschland

    Have you read the text? http://www.perevod-pesen.ru/rammstein-deutschland/
  25. Quote: Bull Terrier
    you just need to know their work and at least read the texts. their whole history was distinguished by the fact that they beat human vices. the heroes of their songs are always flawed people. and to make it completely understandable, the soloist, when asked about his political preference, said that his heart was on his left and not on his right.


    Du (übermächtig, überflussig)
    Ich (Übermenschen, überdrüssig)
    Wir (wer hoch steigt, der wird tief fallen)
    Ihr (Deutschland, Deutschland über allen)

    Please comment.
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 18: 21
      you probably need to first understand that these are not words, it’s like a dialogue .. I you we we are. By the way, this particular piece should not be taken out of the context of the whole composition. re-read the entire text immediately understand the promise I assure you.
    2. 0
      April 8 2019 15: 25
      Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve

      Du (übermächtig, überflussig)
      Ich (Übermenschen, überdrüssig)
      Wir (wer hoch steigt, der wird tief fallen)
      Ihr (Deutschland, Deutschland über allen)


      You can understand how the dual relationship or, most likely, the opposition was, has become:

      You (heavy duty, unnecessary) - everything is clear here
      I (Superhumans, annoying) - a hint of uber- and untermension (super- and "non-humans"), an obvious jab towards neo-Nazis.
      We (who rises high, he falls low) - in the sense of "who flies high, he falls low" - 09.05.1945/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      You (Germany, Germany above all) - here is clearly a mocking alteration of a line from the forbidden verse of the German anthem, in the original it was Deutschland, Deutschland über alles - that is, Germany is above (first) of all.

      As for me, this verse is a reference to the Second World War, remember the song "Marches played, played anthems, suddenly it turned out that we were not sailing anywhere", but the Germans sailed after the Second World War. Here Rammstein, in my opinion, clearly defined their position in relation to these "yubermensch" and "Germany above all", all this did not lead to anything good.
  26. +1
    April 3 2019 15: 58
    From my point of view, as a spectator, a wonderful piece! On such finish execution, I think. There is no glorification of fascism or communism here! This is a look at HIMSELF - Germany by the German, and HOWEVER. It is important, in my opinion, that the group interspersed musical excerpts from early works in the clip ... Against the background of the colorlessness of modern world musical culture, this work is watchable and bright, and makes us think about the philosophy of the past, present and future of Our World.
    Good day to all and good mood!
  27. Quote: Baron Saturday
    In the West, they "have gone crazy with the notorious" political correctness "and" tolerance, "and in some countries," Holocaust denial "is a criminal offense. Public people and politicians there are simply afraid to be charged under these" articles ", which means the inevitable end of them. careers and therefore, at the slightest, even innocuous touch of these topics, everyone tries to dissociate themselves from the topic, certainly "to angrily condemn, express their" negative perception ", showing in every possible way that they are" in trend "otherwise booing in all" universal "media, obstruction and career collapse. Well, also, there is mortal boredom, discussing Russia, the threat of SP-2, "helping Ukraine in the fight against Russia" is already, somehow, tired, but here it is so fresh, why wouldn’t it be discouraged in different ways.

    ***

    The grandson of what the German fascists called "a dirty pig and a subhuman" needs to be careful in his political preferences .... Right?
    After all, at least 18 million people died in Russia and denying it is as stupid as denying the Holocaust.
  28. The clip is provocative, a group using Nazism. And in this clip and in the clip about Adolf Hitler - not secretly carrying, but definitely Nazi. The group constantly provokes with its clips, attracting attention. Since 2012 there has not been a single new song, but you need to prove yourself ....

    As a person who has been listening to rock for more than 50 years, I’ll say that it’s not rock, but shit: pop music laid on industrial metal is not the highest flight.

    The management of the Bavarian Memorial Fund invited musicians to visit the Dachau concentration camp.
    ...
  29. Quote: Wiruz
    Unread

    Well, find something good in a song about Hitler ... I’m curious how much degradation has come for some lovers of a base group ....
  30. Quote: Nastia Makarova
    So what? normal group, interesting shows

    If this is your photo, then God has invested so much in your external that there is nothing left for education?
  31. Quote: nekromonger
    It’s just a grandiose video clip in every sense, the message that Germany is a black woman and this is the reality of this era, and as the zeppelin Hindenburg was burning, it becomes clear that dark forces come to power, I would compare this video with the picture of Ilya Glazunov Eternal Russia, only with reference to Germany.


    Quote: Phil77
    Exactly! Everyone strives to offend the artist. On the point: quite a normal group, plays normal dynamic music Yes, and I did not see anything provocative in the clip.


    Bydlyachaya music for cattle Nedorok for nedorostok.
  32. Quote: andranick
    Normal clip of patriots its homeland. And about the propaganda of fascism - let’s leave it to the Israelis.


    You uttered a fool quote.
    Do you know who the German fascists called the "dirty pig and underdog"? Do you think an exception would be made for you? Is it a serf to "supermen", or what?
    What do you write, only Jews are against fascism? Yes, you are at least stupid !!!
    Most Russians are anti-fascists, and only a few naslepoks are Nazis ..
  33. Quote: bober1982
    Quote

    This is not rock, but shit. Level Marilyn Mason.
    Their excuses that We are not Nazis, Neo-Nazis, or any other kind of Nazi.) "" Are not Nazis, neo-Nazis or anyone else "does not convince anyone but immature people.
  34. Quote: Gestas
    Unread

    And here is Shevchuk and Christian rock? You drove from the top? Compare Shevchuk and Kinchev!
    Кинчев нацист.https://yandex.ru/search/?clid=2186621&text=%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82&lr=11171&redircnt=1554300761.1
  35. Quote: Gestas
    Unread

    Do you have confidence that believers are better than atheists? This is where you got such nonsense?
  36. Quote: nekromonger
    It’s just a grandiose video clip in every sense, the message that Germany is a black woman and this is the reality of this era, and as the zeppelin Hindenburg was burning, it becomes clear that dark forces come to power, I would compare this video with the picture of Ilya Glazunov Eternal Russia, only with reference to Germany.


    A grand clip ... for the Necromongers ... have you heard nothing better?
    1. 0
      April 3 2019 17: 43
      of water would you like cold, spring, wash yourself, but separate places to cool, so that the blood returned to the brain. We discuss the work made by the Germans for the Germans - instead of deciphering what tactical and propaganda (of course) stamps and elements are used there, you scour the audience with a known substance and frankly acidic stamps, the same with .. stamps under which they traded their homeland for jeans and sneakers. Hit obscurantism on the Internet? boldly! but even ISIS TOZR did not work
  37. Quote: Yuri_999
    Have you fully watched this clip? Or did not see, but I condemn

    I have seen and condemn. Translated their songs and condemn.
  38. +2
    April 3 2019 17: 47
    In the video they reflected the problems in the country of the past, present and future.
  39. Quote: kukriniks
    Unread

    You, for example, turned into an evil freak ...
    And so, are you an illiterate, a loser, a fortuneteller in the porch, and the Jews are to blame for this?
    Or are you a competent, not a crap in the stairwell, a successful person. and therefore, shabesh goy?
    Have your Jews taken away your wife, ate your children, taken away the apartment, deprived the workers?
    Do you have any personal complaints that you can’t sleep from anger?
    You can’t live a day without mentioning the Jews, did they fill your skull box?
    I know hundreds of successful Russians whom no one bothered with becoming successful.
    1. +1
      April 3 2019 18: 28
      Yes, damn it ... that’s the whole point. they beat all the crap of their country in terms of complete freaks. such a style. those who have been listening to them for a long time know this very well. if we say they sing about the killer, then that killer means scum and. and the narrative in his name just shows who he is. what you don’t understand right away is normal. another thing is that you do not need to teach others what to love. no one asks you about this. listen to what you like.
  40. Quote: nekromonger
    It’s just a grandiose video clip in every sense, the message that Germany is a black woman and this is the reality of this era, and as the zeppelin Hindenburg was burning, it becomes clear that dark forces come to power, I would compare this video with the picture of Ilya Glazunov Eternal Russia, only with reference to Germany.

    Quote ostoyn necromonger. Black Sabat did not listen?
  41. Quote: Bull Terrier
    you probably need to first understand that these are not words, it’s like a dialogue .. I you we we are. By the way, this particular piece should not be taken out of the context of the whole composition. re-read the entire text immediately understand the promise I assure you.


    I re-read the whole text before that, then translated their song about Adolf Hitler, and came to the conclusion that in Germany, where it is openly difficult to propagate Nazism, this is a camouflaged message to scandalously attract attention to myself. The song about Hitler is also a meaningless mixture of opposing concepts without condemning Nazism itself.
    If you think that in their kitchens a significant number of Germans are not Nazis, you are mistaken.
    By the way, as in the kitchens in Russia, as you can see, even on this site
  42. Quote: jmndslthr
    of water would you like cold, spring, wash yourself, but separate places to cool, so that the blood returned to the brain. We discuss the work made by the Germans for the Germans - instead of deciphering what tactical and propaganda (of course) stamps and elements are used there, you scour the audience with a known substance and frankly acidic stamps, the same with .. stamps under which they traded their homeland for jeans and sneakers. Hit obscurantism on the Internet? boldly! but even ISIS TOZR did not work


    I did not sell my homeland for jeans and sneakers. Judge by yourself? Just obscurantism is to glorify a low-grade group with a Nazi bias to consider outstanding.
    Listen to the comparison The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Ice Zeppelin, Black Sabat, Deep Perple.
    "A poetic work must justify itself, because where the action itself speaks, the word is unlikely to help."
    Schiller Friedrich
  43. +5
    April 4 2019 06: 14
    Ramstein has all the great clips. Bravo!
  44. Mwg
    +2
    April 4 2019 07: 10
    "In the opinion of many public and political figures in Germany itself, the Rammstein group has gone beyond what is permissible, since for advertising purposes and in order to chase a sensation, it used the" inhumanity of the Holocaust and the suffering of millions of people " not in video images or in texts?
    1. Mwg
      +1
      April 4 2019 07: 37
      And the clip is really cool. And the flickering of the severed head of the Roman legionnaire throughout the entire video as a symbol of the presence of the influence of Rome on Germany throughout history is strong.
      The Germans perfectly understand what was happening and what is happening to them, otherwise such a clip would not have appeared.
      And the number of views says it.
  45. Quote: Bull Terrier
    Yes, damn it ... that’s the whole point. they beat all the crap of their country in terms of complete freaks. such a style. those who have been listening to them for a long time know this very well. if we say they sing about the killer, then that killer means scum and. and the narrative in his name just shows who he is. what you don’t understand right away is normal. another thing is that you do not need to teach others what to love. no one asks you about this. listen to what you like.


    Your Majesty!
    The fact is that if this is served with brutally, but truthfully, then saying A, they say B.
    Watch Ramstein’s video about Hitler, there is no condemnation of Nazism there, there is only Hitler’s triumphant movement without its sour end, without the fall of the 3 Reich, without showing his atrocities and the result — the deaths of tens of millions (sixty-two million?), Incl. , Germans, indemnity, partition of Germany, and its eternal occupation.
    If your grandfather, father, and relatives fought and (or) died in the Second World War, then I do not understand this position of their grandson or son against the backdrop of twenty-eight million Soviet people.
    Do you think that modern Nazism does not need opposition?
    1. +1
      April 4 2019 09: 26
      So let's consistently fight the direct accomplices of the Reich, who were warmly welcomed into the fold with their new saints like Krasnov, and someone else .. so they howl in every box, and these are not foreigners, from the word "absolutely". With the demolition of war memorials and monuments including in the former. Suzny, renaming streets. This is nichrome not Ramstein fans are doing. How will homegrown patriots be pleased to answer if they sparkled so much from a foreign product?
  46. Quote: Lara Croft
    Quote: bober1982
    but just a story.

    That's right, people with a sick imagination and in a children's video will find something with subtext ....

    ***
    And people without imagination will not see anything except the foul-smelling plot, disgusting in the musical sense of performance.
  47. +2
    April 4 2019 10: 20
    Yesterday I missed some discussion .. Today, there are already 23 million views. and a flurry of criticism of universal people and Jewish organizations. I personally liked the clip both musically and ideologically, although I am not an ardent fan of Ramstein. The history of the development of any country and people, and especially such as Germany and the Germans, is filled with ups and downs, exploits, accomplishments and shame and crimes. So we can leave the Germans with the right to judge ourselves and sing about their past and present with all their Armies , Fredericks, Kaisers, Hitlers and Honeckers, and with Frau Merkel, they deserved this right, as well as We with all our troubles and victories.
    And since we still have a VO site. for me it is better to even have a "gloomy German genius" as an enemy than a tolerant army of common people.
    1. In addition to universal and Jewish (you see, you identify them), there are many private human critics of Nazism, including Russians.
      It is clear that you are neither universal, Jewish, nor Russian opponents of Nazism.
      The gloomy German genius is Nazism, this is the gloomy German ugliness.
      There are plenty of examples of a bright German genius, which, apparently, is alien to you.
      1. -1
        April 4 2019 17: 01
        I just see that the universal values ​​imposed on us were made with peoples who represented danger .... Germans, Russians, Japanese ....
        Returning to the nation's right to its vision of its history, there is a song by the old Russian group "Center" - Ours forever. The Germans have their own, we have their own - Stalin and Gorbachev, Beria and Bakatin, Ivan the Terrible and Yeltsin .... all this is ours FOREVER from the song of words you will not erase.
        1. They did not do universal values, but their absence among those who supplemented them with all sorts of nonsense that has nothing to do with universal values.
  48. +1
    April 4 2019 12: 20
    Yes, something is already being prepared in Germany, the insane policy of accepting "refugees" is only part of a very big game.
  49. 0
    April 4 2019 15: 39
    Deutschland in decline. Most likely mourn!
    the times of Bismarck, when they created Germany, by the way, it was an interesting time, judging by the description, come convince, and your population. (roughly as with Ukraine after 1993), then the first triumph of Deutschland leading to the First World War, if cool, it was an attempt to seize new lands and spread its influence in Europe, too, the people were ready for suggestion, one of which was communism ... .
    the emergence of the 3rd Reich, another triumph, an attempt to seize the land, Dacht tries to remain, and then, East Germany and West came to the fact that they are drunk there loudly.children of arabstan, and they quietly .... softly, lose face, although still recently, the GDR and the FRG were independent and not harmless republics ...
    and now they only have to stay smile
  50. Quote: Black Owerlord
    Oh, another rabid supporter of some kind of morality.

    Are you a supporter of the lack of morality?
  51. Quote: lucul
    Unread

    Quote: bober1982
    Quite peculiar and unexpected was the conclusion of the nameless author that the clip ....... actually represents the history of Germany.
    That is, not the propaganda of Nazism, but only history.

    ***
    The pathetic reasoning of a conspiracy theorist, stupid superstitionist and Nazi follower. A typical victim of roller skating training, a victim of the Ministry of Education and a victim of hREN.TVru rolled into one.
    1. +4
      April 4 2019 17: 19
      I watched the clip again, read the translation, but I didn’t find anything offensive to other nations... all this happened in the history of Germany, regardless of whether you admit it or not... this is a song about Germany and for Germany.
      R.S. Jews celebrate the joyful holiday of Purim and eat cookies in the shape of Persian ears, and no one in the world remembers the murdered Persians..
  52. +3
    April 4 2019 19: 37
    the moment when they walk in shackles through the American zone, and money is thrown from above - an allusion to the Marshall Plan, according to which Germany received money, but refused space, a share in the military-industrial complex and nuclear energy. Well done, Ramstein
  53. +2
    April 4 2019 20: 52
    It's time to introduce Grammaton)))) Otherwise everyone will understand and re-experience each other!
    1. +1
      April 5 2019 12: 26
      Quote: Reklastik
      It's time to introduce Grammaton)))) Otherwise everyone will understand and re-experience each other!

      have you already loaded yourself with prozium?))) if not, the clerics are already on their way to you, hide your paintings, pets and gramophone...
      you will be accused of an emotional crime - you need to be prepared!
      I think the clip turned out great
      1. +2
        April 5 2019 15: 01
        Have you already loaded yourself with prozium?)))
        - haloperidol for everyone, at the expense of the establishment!!! )))) The clip is okay, but I don’t know what they’re talking about)
        1. +1
          April 5 2019 18: 23
          Quote: Reklastik
          - haloperidol for everyone, at the expense of the establishment!!! )))) The clip is okay, but I don’t know what they’re talking about)

          You (you, you, you, you)
          I've cried enough (I've cried enough, I've cried enough),
          Separated from the soul (separated, separated, separated)
          One with the heart (one, one, one, one).
          We (we, we, we, we)
          Been together for quite some time (all of you, all of you, all of you, all of you),
          Your icy breath (so cold, so cold)
          Fiery heart (so hot, so hot, so hot)
          You (you can, you can, you can, you can)
          I (I know, I know, I know, I know)
          We (we, we, we, we)
          You (you stay, you stay, you stay, you stay)

          Germany! My heart is on fire
          I want to love you and curse you.
          Germany! Your cold breath
          So young, and yet so old.
          Germany!

          I (you have it, you have it, you have it, you have it)
          I never want to leave you
          (you cry, you cry, you cry, you cry).
          You can be loved
          (you love, you love, you love, you love)
          And I want to hate
          (you hate, you hate, you hate)

          Arrogant, arrogant,
          You take it upon yourself, you give up,
          You surprise, you attack,
          Germany, Germany above all.

          Germany! My heart is on fire
          I want to love you and curse you.
          Germany! Your cold breath
          So young, and yet so old.
          Germany! Your love -
          This is both a curse and a blessing.
          Germany! My love
          I can't give it to you.
          Germany! Germany!

          (You. I. We. You)
          (You) Powerful, excessive,
          (I'm) Superman, I'm tired of it,
          (We) He who climbs higher, the harder he falls,
          (You) Germany, Germany above all.

          Germany! Your heart is on fire
          I want to love you and curse you.
          Germany! My cold breath
          So young, and yet so old.
          Germany! Your love -
          This is both a curse and a blessing.
          Germany! My love
          I can't give it to you.
          Germany!

          Translated by Sebastian Vittel


          Original: https://de.lyrsense.com/rammstein/deutschland_r
          Copyright: https://lyrsense.com ©
  54. +3
    April 5 2019 10: 20
    New Rammstein video

    I like this
  55. +3
    April 5 2019 12: 22
    I really liked the video, firstly, I prefer heavier music (Ramstein for me is even a very “light” group in style), although I like “And Lenin is so young” in the original...
    But the Ramsteins pleased us once again: they are not just musicians, but excellent actors who know how to show the “inside of sin” and play it out in their own way. In addition, “Deutschland” has a lot of direct references to other hits - which I also liked. Well, “my heart is burning with fire, I want to love and curse” and the black woman in the video, oddly enough, is appropriate, especially in the image of a queen with a sword.
    Overall, I liked the clip. Ramsteins are great - they don’t try to shut up: yes - this happened, and this happened, this is history...
  56. +2
    April 5 2019 19: 03

    A black girl (Ruby Commey is a cool surname by the way) in golden shining armor is very similar to the coat of arms of Germany - a black eagle on a yellow background.
  57. 0
    April 7 2019 21: 58
    Found an article on the net.
    “Only the laziest (of those who saw) did not discuss the video of the Ramstein-Deutschland group. And various specialists and others like them dismantled the video sequence, the notes, and the meaning, obvious and secret, almost into atoms. Numerous reviewers and critics/analysts were true and accurate. It would seem that there are no more questions, and therefore this, without a doubt, masterpiece can be put on the shelf. But there is one question. Who benefited from the appearance of this video here and now? These are turbulent times. Why rock the boat of the Fourth Under-Reich Angela Merkel, which is barely staying afloat?

    A little non-binding numerology. The presentation of the video took place on March 28. On this day, exactly 77 years ago, British aircraft bombed the city of Lubeck, which became the first in the chain of devastated German cities, which was closed by Dresden. The 77 here is probably "Spiel 77", which is German for "Game 77", an additional game played twice a week, on Wednesdays and Saturdays, along with the draw of the main game of the German Lotto. This is a cool German lotto... Far-fetched? Let's see!

    The political crisis is “sausifying” Germany, and economic uncertainty, coupled with the hospitality of a former Komsomol activist of Polish origin, Angela Merkel, is emptying the pockets of German citizens. All this brings us closer to the moment when the Germans finally realize that they were brutally raped morally, and even with the initial use of American-French denazification, and then economically put in the position of a broken birch by the Marshall Plan, and now they continue to force them to commit further indecencies with the notorious Chancellor Act , then all sorts of consequences of this will be very, very sad for Germany’s neighbors.
    Add to this the demographic problems, dominance and violence of refugees flooding Deutschland. And then the Polish government is testing its luck by demanding reparations from Germany for almost a trillion dollars! And these are the Poles who deported Germans en masse from the original Prussian territories?!
    Angela Merkel's policy of conciliation deals Germany blow after blow. But the economic bloc (fortunately it is headed by the guy Peter Altmaier) is consistently working to change the “political conditions”. It is not for nothing that Vladimir LENIN, at one time, said: “Politics is a concentrated expression of the economy,” meaning that if the economy is destroyed, no power will remain. On the other hand, the primary task of the government in power during the transition period is the establishment and formation of that very economy, which must meet the expectations of society... (in our country, those in power are entirely former party workers - poor students, they will never catch up this idea? Although, the USSR was destroyed because of this...)
    With such introductory information, hungry and sobered up by the historical truth, the Germans will quickly organize the next Reich (usually with the support of “friends,” and maybe even friends this time) and make a rush in any indicated direction...
    And the one who authorized the appearance of this clip (initiated it, etc.) will show the right path.
    The leading German creative team Ramstein created a true video. Great. In the new millennium - the best. This clip will become the spark from which the match will light, which, in turn, will light the fuse of the next war. Thank you, Ramstein! Si vis pasem, para bellum. Always ready!
    Who else would film the TRUTH about our MOTHERLAND..."
  58. 0
    11 May 2019 17: 36
    I couldn't watch it. Germans, either you tear it down or you die. There is no third!