Do not require us to reparation from Poland?

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Once again, trouble came from not waiting. This time our former ally of the “socialist camp”, Poland, distinguished itself. The Coalition of Polish Patriots and Christians has posted a petition on the website of the American White House, calling on Donald Trump to help Poland get a contribution from Germany and Russia. According to the authors, Poland still has not received “fair compensation for the evil caused by the German and Russian aggressors.”





It must be said that the sweet smell of great reparations has long upset the minds of Polish patriots. In 2017, the Prime Minister of Poland, Beata Szydlo, had already taken the initiative to slightly milk Germany. True, in Germany they were quite skeptical and did not support the idea, but the smell, this disturbing, sweet smell of big money did not disappear anywhere from the Polish political and mental space.

From the point of view of international law, Poland’s claims on reparations from Germany are rather weak. The fact is that the Polish People's Republic has already received them as a result of the Second World War. By agreement of the winning countries, she owed as much as 25% of reparations received by the Soviet Union. But in 1953, Warsaw refused its share (after the USSR). And one can interpret the reasons for this refusal in any way, but the fact remains that for international law, Poland’s claims against Germany look somehow particularly groundless.

But the introduction of such a requirement for Russia is a relatively new matter. And in the context of the current Russophobic policy of the West, they cannot be called absolutely harmless: the proud descendants of the impoverished gentry will not receive any money, but from this it will be entirely possible to make a few boards in the fence that they are trying to fence Russia. And to be surprised that some International Tribunal in The Hague can decide in favor of the Poles, I would not. Moreover, we ourselves give rise to similar attacks against ourselves, recognizing international agreements and judicial decisions as priorities in relation to our own legislation.

That is, it’s not just spitting in the direction of Moscow, but potentially poisonous spitting. And it is necessary to react to it accordingly, without excessive complacency.

Of course, Russia has already responded to this initiative. They also remembered the 600 of thousands of Soviet soldiers who sacrificed their lives for the liberation of Poland, and about the joint struggle against the Nazis, and they did not forget to mention the legal aspects of the problem. Senator Alexei Pushkov even called on the Poles to "fear God." But let's be frank: such rhetoric is unlikely to make anyone think, and we should not rely only on it, of course.

To begin with, we would have to remember that before 1 September 1939, Poland was de facto an ally of Hitler and even participated in the division of Czechoslovakia. Poland also strongly opposed the possible assistance of Czechoslovakia from the USSR, promising to simply shoot down Soviet aircraft heading for Czechoslovakia in the event of something. In fact, after this, the question of a big war was resolved, and Poland itself became its first victim: Hitler, having received the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia’s industry, which was quite powerful at that time, and also “fed” its ally Hungary to Slovakia, finally convinced that No one can stop him on the European continent. Although, as shown story, he was mistaken in this, but the whole world could see this only at the cost of tremendous sacrifices.

So, we must, as a start, actively raise the topic of Polish participation in stirring up World War II and, accordingly, reassessing its responsibility. Since modern Poland does not consider itself the successor of the PPR, which it scornfully calls the “Soviet colony”, it means that it is the successor of Poland itself, who flirted with Hitler and put poles into the wheels of the Soviet Union, which was ready to challenge the Germans back in 1938 ?. Good, accepted. But in this case, it would be Russia who should have put forward demands for Poland! I think, taking into account interest, a trillion dollars will suit us - we are not villains of what kind ...

In principle, one could welcome any steps aimed at ridding our people of the guilt complex instilled in them. You see, we are guilty before the Poles, and before the Georgians, and before the whole of Central Asia, and beyond to infinity - if we list everyone, there will not be enough fingers. And when you try to explain that, without the Russians, there would be no Georgia, and there would be another Turkish province, and the Georgians would en masse in the Turks and forbid speaking their native language, they do not believe. For some reason they think that Tbilisi would be something like a second Paris ...

Armenia without Russians simply would not exist. At all. Unless somewhere in the environs of San Francisco, and even without the support from the Caucasus, all the Armenian diasporas would most likely have been completely assimilated. Azerbaijan would certainly be a province of Iran. By the way, it’s partly now: a significant part of ethnic Azerbaijanis now reside in the territory of Iran and is not even talking about independence.

Unfortunately, our mentality prevents the correct understanding of history and our own role in it. Indeed, according to various dexterous manipulators, "history has no subjunctive mood." And if so, it becomes impossible to analyze it, because the analysis is built on the subjunctive mood - a little less than completely. So we live within the framework of Russophobic clichés imposed on us, unable even to take a sober look at our own history.

And is it any wonder that “Polish patriots and Christians” of various kinds take great advantage of this weakness of ours?

We really really miss a more honest, offensive, even a little aggressive approach to solving various kinds of international problems and challenges. We are all afraid of offending someone, we all think that we are probably to blame for something, because there is no smoke without fire ...

Yes, there is no smoke without fire. But the eyes from him usually do not come from the one who kindled the fire, but from the one to whose direction the wind blows. And now, when the smoldering little heads of old offenses are actively inflated by our enemies, our eyes not only smoke, but also sparks with coals.

We really need to learn to be offended. Do not mumble endless mantra about pragmatism, rationality, the need to be adults and clever, namely to be offended. So that those who decided to dismantle the next monument to the Russian soldiers clearly understood: Moscow will not swallow this pill silently and will answer so that their own monuments can fall.

In the meantime, this is not the case. We will pragmatically look at how reparations are demanded of us, they are called invaders, they humiliate the Russian population and in every way demonstrate their contempt for various kinds of “patriots” from the outskirts of the once great empire. Watch and believe in the triumph of international justice.

No, really, but what do we still have?
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  1. +9
    21 March 2019 18: 37
    For some reason, I think that the Russian Federation, as a great power, will answer majestically: all these and other Polish abominations are summed up ... and will lead to the next partition of Poland.
    Everything has its time.
    1. +16
      21 March 2019 20: 57
      Quote: Falstaff
      For some reason, I think that the Russian Federation, as a great power, will answer majestically: all these and other Polish abominations are summed up ... and will lead to the next partition of Poland.
      Everything has its time.


      What if the Germans also remember that part of the territory of Germany moved to Poland and will also bill Poland billions so on 850 or so?
      1. +11
        21 March 2019 21: 07
        Before WWII, the Poles were counting on England, now they want to be the beloved wife of the United States in Europe and are bullying not only the Russian Federation, but also Germany, so I think our common border with the Germans somewhere along the Vistula is a matter of time.
        1. +3
          22 March 2019 14: 55
          Quote: Falstaff
          Before WWII, the Poles were counting on England, now they want to be the beloved wife of the United States in Europe and are bullying not only the Russian Federation, but also Germany, so I think our common border with the Germans somewhere along the Vistula is a matter of time.


          Serfs cannot exist without a master. In the EU, everyone is tired of Poland, it remains to "look for happiness" overseas.
        2. +3
          22 March 2019 18: 17
          I think our common border with the Germans somewhere along the Vistula is a matter of time.

          Attach these goofs to yourself? No, thanks! stop Only the new Polish uprisings were not enough for us!
        3. +1
          25 March 2019 17: 21
          Guys, Poland is full of reasonable people, both the older generation and the young, who read books and taught history. Do not confuse ordinary people with politicians. European politicians are eating - we know where. and everyone knows who they lick under the tail. By the way, the first two countries that declared war on the young RSFSR are Poland, which only gained independence from Lenin, and Finland, which also gained independence. They were the first to start, and less than 20 years later they began to howl when they were tapped on the knoll. And here's another infa. The inventors of the end camps are not the Fascists. Concentration camps were invented by the British and the Poles. the first, during the Anglo-Boer Wars, perished in the end of the camps tens of thousands of whites from South Africa, and the second more than 100000 !!!!!! The Red Army soldiers of the "innocently murdered" Tukhachevsky (who then had to make an ax head off, but he distinguished himself in suppressing the Kronstadt revolt) After that, they are not ashamed to talk about Katyn from a word at all. And I don't hear Lavrov remind the Poles about this war, that Poland started it, and if it weren't for Tukhachevsky's stupidity, the Red Army would have marched through Warsaw once again in 1922-23.
          1. 0
            26 March 2019 13: 17
            Quote: Gogia
            After that, they are not ashamed to talk about Katyn from the word at all.

            In Katyn, the Poles were shot by the Germans.
      2. +5
        21 March 2019 21: 35
        It’s time for Russia to present an invoice to Poland for the occupation of the Kremlin and interest for four hundred years has run up.
      3. 0
        23 March 2019 11: 06
        In the 91st I spoke with a simple Pole, a small trader. He said that they have a lot of people regrets that the SA left Poland. They are afraid of the Germans, who will all remember them ...
    2. +16
      21 March 2019 21: 13
      Unfortunately, the Russian Federation is not the Soviet Union and propaganda in the official media is purely anti-Soviet. Accordingly, there is nowhere to take political will to protect the Soviet past, moreover, this is harmful and dangerous to our oligarchy.
      All these scams with substance are necessary only for the fun of the internal Polish and Ukrainian public, and it is also used for the image of an external enemy by our authorities. On the sidelines, they bite each other only for large contracts and fight under the carpet for haulers. There is no longer a national aristocracy (nobility with its own notion of honor), and there is no USSR with public property (public interests). There is only pure capitalism and state corporations within this system.

      In the name of the law "Klishas" Glory to the government of the Russian Federation!
      1. -1
        23 March 2019 00: 37
        "There is no longer the national aristocracy (nobility with its own concept of honor)" What honor does the white-lined estate have? They just dreamed of how to sell Rolssia more profitably. Read the memes of white officers ... no words,)))))
    3. +2
      22 March 2019 12: 56
      RF is not! and there is nothing to be deceived. There is LLC "RF"
    4. -2
      23 March 2019 00: 35
      Russia, great ... rzhava, ....
      "Unfortunately, our mentality interferes with the correct understanding of history and our own role" and then blah blah blah .. What kind of rust? Putin's or Yeltsin's? Both Vlvan and wrestling drunk like Dimon swore allegiance to pshek on Katyn bones.
      At first they blinded the bloc ... with anti-Soviet and anti-communist orders, then they crawled on their knees in front of the psheks waiting for patronage for admission to the EU and NATO.
      How long has Vova promised to give Ulyanovsk to a US military base?
      Who else but Vova ruined the army and destroyed 26 or 29 of Russia's largest military depots through stools. It’s just so blown up to fuyami .... Has it been a long time as in some month Serdyuk blew up a pair of warehouses? And what? Psheki or Vovan surrendered our military bases in Vietnam and Cuba? Only 8 or 9 of our military bases through which Russia could specifically control all the Amer’s negotiations inside the United States and beyond. Are these Psheks, and not Vova? This is not Vova for the loot of Akhmetov stopped the DPR army on the threshold of Mariupol? Paskudniki were afraid that the divided Ruin would stop pumping gas for Vovanovsky?
    5. +1
      23 March 2019 11: 01
      Quote: Falstaff
      will lead to the next partition of Poland.
      Everything has its time.

      Correctly! Take the lands.
    6. -9
      23 March 2019 15: 42
      Something the author cursed so much that he forgot to remember about dividing Poland between the USSR and the Reich in half and taking a joint parade with the Nazis ... of course the Poles don’t have any money, but you need to understand that the USSR and the Reich are equivalent for them
      1. 0
        25 March 2019 16: 13
        And you are not smart at all. You don’t know the story.
      2. 0
        25 March 2019 17: 24
        Yes, you forgot to mention that the United States gave Hitler a lot of money on credit and built industry for him even after he violated the conditions of the Brest Peace in 1933. Business is nothing personal. So did Britain.
      3. 0
        26 March 2019 13: 32
        Quote: Clever man
        Something the author cursed so much that he forgot to remember about dividing Poland between the USSR and the Reich in half and taking a joint parade with the Nazis

        Neumnik read about the partition of Poland here - https://commentarii.ru/blog/43428633914/pakt-molotova-ribbentropa-mifyi-i-pravda
        At the same time, enlighten about the Katyn case - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK3fmBh4uzQ
    7. 0
      25 March 2019 16: 03
      "A noble person and people strives for justice, a low one - for profit. Gratitude is a quality not characteristic of yesterday's vassals. Gratitude is the privilege of the strong and worthy."
  2. +6
    21 March 2019 18: 41
    I ask you to understand correctly, this is not bravado, so, thinking loudly ... what
  3. +17
    21 March 2019 18: 48
    For some reason, they think that Tbilisi would be something like a second Paris
    ... Yeah, now ... Our little Paris. ... Krasnodar-Ekaterinodar and no other to be in Russia and the former USSR wink ...
    we will pragmatically watch how reparations are required of us, called invaders, humiliate the Russian population and in every possible way demonstrate their contempt of various kinds of “patriots” from the outskirts of the once great empire.
    ..This, perhaps, would not have happened if they themselves didn’t give a damn about their own past, and not long ago .. And we continue to spit .. Even under the USSR, at the Congress of People's Deputies, the Moscow Treaty of 1939 was condemned, and then it went on increasing. We looked from the outside, they were doing self-flagellation, they began to "repent", rubbed their hands and said to themselves, well, it's time to present indemnities for all periods ..
    1. +8
      21 March 2019 21: 57
      Yes, Alexey. I also thought about spitting into my own past. What are the thoughts of those who do this in our country. Is it really not visible and incomprehensible that after the 50th anniversary of the Victory they are trying to oust our country from the victorious countries. But --- perhaps this process has already begun. The consequence of this, the requirements of territories and money. And ours what?
      We know that the West is capable of painstakingly working on long-term long-term projects.
      And how many long useful projects equated to 0 in our history ....
      1. +7
        23 March 2019 00: 44
        What spit are you talking about here? Direct betrayal of the USSR and Russia. Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin and Medvedev all repented and swore allegiance to NATO and tearfully asked the EU to curse the USSR, Stalin and the commies swearing to the Psheks on Katyn fakes. Today, pendoVovan does not like how psheks and nya spread rot and turns history? But aren’t you gentlemen’s comrades yourself and started the collapse of not only the USSR and the CPSU, but of the whole of Russian history?
    2. +7
      22 March 2019 05: 38
      Quote: parusnik
      Moscow Treaty of 1939,

      The greatest achievement of Soviet diplomacy. He postponed the war for two years.
      1. kiu
        -10
        22 March 2019 11: 37
        Quote: asiat_61
        The greatest achievement of Soviet diplomacy. He postponed the war for two years.

        Do you think that the Germans in 1939, having done away with Poland (if they had succeeded then), and having France and Britain declaring war on it, would attack the USSR?
        Or do you make people laugh?

        Yes, and here's another, for the "statesmen". In preparation for the signing of the Atlantic Charter and joining the Anti-Hitler coalition (August-September 1941), the USSR assumed certain obligations. He recognized the Polish government in exile with all that it implies.
        However, in Yalta (1943) everyone replayed this. West Belarus and the West. Ukraine remained in the USSR. In return, Poland received land compensation at the expense of Germany.
        Those. Zap. Belarus and West. Ukraine became part of the USSR as a result of WW2, and not the "Polish campaign" of 1939, as was commonly believed in the USSR. And these lands were very expensive, they were bought with colossal blood.
        The same applies to the Baltic states and Bessarabia, as well as parts of Finland.
        1. +4
          22 March 2019 21: 56
          Quote: kiu
          having France and Britain declaring war on her rear,

          And what happened to Britain declaring war on Germany.
          And about France: Guderian in tanks described well ahead: (review of the book):
          It was allowed to conduct only "reconnaissance in battle," and we fought further and further to the north. On May 20, troops reached the English Channel, in spite of the idea of ​​stopping the advance, from Hitler himself. Hitler's “stop-order” of May 24, 1940 deprived many of their “speechlessness” ...
          Quote: kiu
          up Belarus and the West. Ukraine remained in the USSR.

          The Line of Curzon (1919) was much earlier than Yalta (1943).
          1. kiu
            -14
            22 March 2019 22: 52
            Quote: naidas
            And what happened to Britain declaring war on Germany.

            I don’t know what happened to her.
            Quote: naidas
            And about France: Guderian in tanks described well ahead: (review of the book)

            I recommend reading serious literature, not any beldyberd.
            Quote: naidas
            in spite of the idea of ​​stopping the advance, from Hitler himself. Hitler's “stop-order” of May 24, 1940 deprived many of their “speechlessness ..."

            This ram Guderian either did not understand, or pretended not to understand (this is more like the truth) that Hitler's stop order (at the insistence of the General Staff) ensured the Germans victory in France. A similar order in the USSR in 1941 was not given by Giller (although the General Staff insisted). As a result, the Germans stole ... a 1941 company, and with it the opportunity to withdraw the USSR from the war and push the Bolsheviks beyond the Astrakhan-Arkhangelsk line along the Volga and North. Dvina.
            Quote: naidas
            The Line of Curzon (1919) was much earlier than Yalta (1943).

            Why did you write this?
          2. 0
            23 March 2019 11: 02
            Something reminds 2014 2015 Donetsk with Lugansk
        2. +1
          23 March 2019 14: 12
          In 1943, Yalta was occupied by German troops, you probably meant Tehran, or the Yalta Conference of 1945, the borders of Poland were discussed and determined in Yalta in 1945, by which time the provisional government of the Polish Republic already existed
          1. kiu
            -2
            24 March 2019 09: 39
            Quote: 16329
            In 1943, Yalta was occupied by German troops

            Yes, of course there is a typo. Meant 1945
      2. +4
        22 March 2019 17: 24
        And not only that. The USSR received equipment for factories from Germany, showed the worst nightmare to the Anglo-Saxons (the union of Russia and Germany) it was very possible and made them make fatal mistakes. It is for this that the Anglo-Saxons hate this treaty. He highlighted the precariousness of their situation. Yes, and Japan made me think about the need for an alliance with Germany (they were in the anti-Commintern pact).
        1. kiu
          -13
          22 March 2019 18: 28
          Quote: AKuzenka
          showed the Anglo-Saxons their worst nightmare (union of Russia and Germany)

          That's what they put the bolt with the device on, so it is on the "union of Germany and the USSR". Simply because the industrial potential of the USSR was slightly more than zero. And nobody was interested at all. And only the Yankees could arm and feed the Soviet mob potential. Germany could not do that.
          Therefore, the union of the USSR with the Anglo-Saxons was dangerous for its victims. And the union of Germany and the USSR is ridiculous.
          1. +2
            22 March 2019 22: 10
            Quote: kiu
            That's what they put a bolt with the device on, so it is on the "union of Germany and the USSR

            Yeah, this is visible after the Rapallo Treaty of 1922.
            1. kiu
              -8
              22 March 2019 22: 53
              Quote: naidas
              Yeah, this is visible after the Rapallo Treaty of 1922.

              Yes, after any. The elephant doesn’t care whether the Pug is with fleas or not.
          2. +7
            23 March 2019 00: 56
            Neither the United States nor England supplied the USSR with aircraft or tank-building plants. Even the United States didn’t put many machines to the ridiculous. And in 43i our industry produced more aircraft of excellent quality than Germany. Why? Because, before the war, the USSR purchased and exported from Germany only 10 full-cycle aviation plants. And it was precisely on German rotary machines in the USSR that they sharpened rotary devices for the armor of the towers of ships and tanks. etc.
            Teach materiel ... the "union of Germany and the USSR" is ridiculous, ... You yourself are ridiculous)))))
            1. kiu
              -9
              23 March 2019 11: 48
              Quote: Slavik Rusin
              Because, before the war, the USSR purchased and exported from Germany only 10 full-cycle aviation plants. And it was precisely on German rotary machines in the USSR that they sharpened rotary devices for the armor of the towers of ships and tanks. etc.

              I see no reason to discuss Slavik’s childhood fantasies.
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  4. +6
    21 March 2019 18: 50
    A list must be made since the time of Boris Godunov. Poland legal successor of the Commonwealth. Exactly a billion dollars of reparations will be Yes
    1. +10
      21 March 2019 20: 06
      Billion? Dude, you don’t know what compound interest on debts is)) I'm afraid that for Poland the amount is such that the whole money supply of the land is not enough)) Mongolia will pay until the sun goes out, Spain has time for this to happen until that moment)) Turkey will go under the hammer like a bankrupt)) No more reparations will be to anyone according to the WWII. Populism...
  5. +12
    21 March 2019 18: 50
    the Pole is not a nation, the Pole is a profession ... ancient .... Yes
    1. 0
      22 March 2019 13: 19
      This week in Solovyov’s night program in the last part of the program they discussed precisely this topic about the money that Poland wants to recover from Vaterland and Russia. The program included a well-known Pole, or rather, Lithuanian, as it turned out, Yakub Koreyba. He climbed everywhere, interrupted everyone. But that is not the point. The bottom line is that Sosnovsky, a German journalist (our former Soviet one, left for Germany 30 years ago), called Poland a prostitute who is trying to get paid at a double rate. Sosnowski called Koreyba a prostitute already at the end of the program, when this Polish Pole blundered about reparations. I strongly recommend watching this program. I don’t remember exactly, it’s kind of like airing March 18, 2019. Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu904qA5zTg
    2. 0
      23 March 2019 19: 14
      Do not offend prostitutes, they are more decent and better than Poles
  6. +2
    21 March 2019 18: 56
    It's time to tighten the gangs (pshekam), they will not understand otherwise.
  7. +6
    21 March 2019 19: 12
    They also forgot compensation for the occupation of Zap. Ukraine and Belarus and for the destruction of prisoners of war in the Polish death camps, both before and during the war, as well as numerous attacks by the Poles on the troops of the USSR after the liberation of Poland
  8. +6
    21 March 2019 19: 36
    Yeah, to compensate them ... fled. Do they want to return Danzig to Germany? And if the Germans ask? A German will drive up in a "Leopard" and say: "This is my house, my grandfather was born here!" And then what will the tough Poles do? Somehow tired of this constant Wielkopolska whining. They want to count, let's count, and I guess who will end up here without pants. They cannot forget that they were once an empire, hence the ambition. And the fact that "the train left for a long time" does not even reach them with a creak. And our leaders are doing whatever they want instead of putting the gentry in their place. And their place is near ... well, you know where.
    PS And what kind of warriors in the background are the photographs to the left of the German general? Magyars or Slovaks? I don’t really know either form. Guys, if anyone is in the know, describe yourself, be affectionate. smile
    1. +9
      21 March 2019 20: 42
      Poland was never an empire and never will be. It's just that the Poles have an inferiority complex, plus megalomania.
      1. 0
        22 March 2019 00: 59
        They believe that the empire was, but that is their business. And as for the inferiority complex, you are right, the Balts are also suffering from this, well, except Lithuania, perhaps. And so, this is the lot of all the little things in Europe.
      2. +2
        22 March 2019 13: 02
        The Grand Duchy of Lithuania under was a multinational empire from sea to sea. And since then, the Poles cannot genetically forgive the fact that Muscovy broke the ON ridge, forever casting it into the category of minor limitrophs.
        1. +1
          22 March 2019 16: 38
          That is what I meant.
    2. 0
      22 March 2019 10: 00
      Yes, it’s interesting to learn from specialist uniformists. I know that this photo is from the teachings of the Polish army of 1938 in Bydgoszcz.
  9. +11
    21 March 2019 19: 56
    While our rulers have women lovers loot and children abroad, we will remain silent and endure.
    1. +16
      21 March 2019 20: 03
      No, as long as Russia is owned by those who have the only justification for their capture of Russia in 30 years is anti-Sovietism, for the sake of which they rush to defend Poles during the Civil War in Russia, with “righteous anger” to expose Stalin's crime as took away from the Poles captured by them Western Ukraine and Western Belarus, "weep" over the shot Poles in Katyn, the Poles will "wipe their feet" on Russia.
      1. +1
        22 March 2019 06: 10
        Due to the marginality of the authorities of the Russian Federation, the full sovereignty of the state is not possible when impudent people could be punished. Marginality - and inclusion in the Anglo-Saxon capitalist project, and being in our national field, for which this project is foreign and pathogenic. Getting rid of the pathogen is a condition of survival, any grandmother knows it - treatment should be started with cleansing the body of parasites and dirt.
  10. +5
    21 March 2019 20: 05
    The history of these boobies does not teach - they constantly step on the same rake. Probably the genes are like that. And most importantly - all the time they get out some kind of mold and junk, do not disdain corpses. As a young man, at Hemingway, I read a phrase that I remembered for my whole life that you will not find in the world a single port in which you would not meet the Pole speculator junkman.
    1. 0
      21 March 2019 23: 31
      By the way, Jack the Ripper was a Polish emigrant Aaron Kosminsky. http://homad.ru/dzhek-potroshitel-najden-tajnu-lichnosti-otkryli-po-dnk/
  11. +5
    21 March 2019 23: 01
    It seems to me alone that lately there are almost as many articles about Poland as about Dill? Is the vector changing?
    1. +3
      22 March 2019 06: 42
      Not for you alone. Of course, this is done on purpose to distract our average man from pressing problems. Although, if you look from the other side, we take, for example, Austria. A country with a huge history, was one of the strongest European empires, was restored from ruins after the Second World War. Today it lives today’s life, not shouting in all directions to its neighbors that, they say, these are its original territories, and, in general, everyone owes it. They live and work for their own benefit and for the joy of society. A great example for Poles and Ukrainians, how can and should live in a common family.
    2. +1
      23 March 2019 11: 12
      So soon gas transit through now Ukraine will be re-opened. Redhead promised the opposition. And you need a new bogeyman. As without him.
  12. +1
    21 March 2019 23: 27
    Very correct article.
  13. 0
    21 March 2019 23: 49
    Well written.
    But this is what it was ???:
    "History has no subjunctive mood." And if so, it becomes impossible to analyze it, because the analysis is based on the subjunctive mood
  14. +1
    21 March 2019 23: 54
    The ugly people.
  15. +3
    22 March 2019 01: 35
    The eternal jackals of Europe. It is not for nothing that Russians are called bears, and Poland - jackals. The bear, though by itself, is not sullen since these are sokakoobraznye: he swallows the honey from the bees, he catches a fish, he shoots a wild boar at the edge. It is necessary to impose Poland indemnities for aiding neo-Nazism and anti-Russian extremism in Europe. Russia, too, is Europe after all, and the jackals should be kept on their side so that they do not encroach on someone else’s honey and attack the cubs.
  16. 0
    22 March 2019 07: 48
    Well, real jackals, one barked and everyone started growling and a piece tore off much ...
  17. +1
    22 March 2019 08: 20
    Well, the Czechs and Slovaks then simply must roll out the score to the Poles for Silesia.
    1. 0
      22 March 2019 08: 41
      and the Czechs and Slovaks then simply must roll out the score to the Poles for Silesia


      Well, no one (normal) in Europe will not submit invoices and claims. Everyone signed a contract and settled everything, a long time ago. This is the Polish circus tent on tour. As they are not too lazy to carry nonsense is unclear.
    2. +1
      22 March 2019 12: 57
      I would not worry about "peaceful" Czechs. After WWI, using the defeat of Germany, the Czechs carried out ethnic cleansing and appropriated German lands. Taking advantage of the employment of the Poles in the east, the Czechs recaptured Tesin. So before World War II, few were without sin.
      1. 0
        24 March 2019 13: 03
        And was there a case of "amicable" divorce in the whole world history during the disintegration of a previously unified (especially multinational) country into parts? The natural desire of absolutely any person, group, nation is to grab a bigger piece in such a situation. The opposite example is grandfather Lenin, who released Finland along with the territory of the former Vyborg province, which did not belong to the Grand Duchy of Finland before Alexander I, and which had to be fought back 2 decades after that, having laid tens of thousands of lives of our soldiers (and in 17, the Finns are glad would be granting independence and within the borders of 1809, without Vyborg and Kotka). So God forbid us from such "sinless" rulers (Borka is a drunkard and the Belovezhsky Treaty, without any mention of the controversial issue of the ownership of Crimea and Sevastopol - from the same opera, our schoolchildren are teaching history, but why is it for the rulers? They write it themselves ).
  18. 0
    22 March 2019 09: 13
    But I would have billed 1 115 431 756 356 $, I do not like round numbers!
  19. 0
    22 March 2019 09: 33
    We are invaders by birth! This must be driven into the brains of Western Europeans. And from Poland it is necessary not only to tear off compensation for the Second World War, but also for the death of the Red Army in 1920. Everything, to the cent. am
  20. +1
    22 March 2019 14: 23
    As the tsarist officers in Russia said about Poland, paraphrasing the Polish national anthem = POLAND HAD NOT YET BUT YET BUT ALREADY GIVEN THE SOUL!
  21. +1
    22 March 2019 16: 36
    file a counterclaim.
    how much is there "in civilized countries" pay the family of a dead soldier? a million or two?
    600 dead for 000 million. total 1 billion. pay, then we will consider your claims.
  22. -6
    22 March 2019 18: 40
    Quote: PlotnikoffDD
    file a counterclaim.
    how much is there "in civilized countries" pay the family of a dead soldier? a million or two?
    600 dead for 000 million. total 1 billion. pay, then we will consider your claims.

    Why do not you present such a situation to Afghanistan, Korea, Syria where our soldiers and officers died? Stop poking the Poles with the lives of our grandfathers who have laid down their heads in battles on the territory of Poland. Not for Poland, they fought there, but for you and me.
  23. +1
    22 March 2019 18: 47
    Everything is correct. The union of Russia and Germany has been hanging in the air for 100 years. Germany is the last competitor of England for leadership in Europe, for which it was rubbed 2 times. Now, in order to prevent this union of the United States and pumping up Poland, a belt "from sea to sea" is being created. Military bases, weapons, political support in European affairs. We cannot even lay the Nord Stream 2 pipeline calmly.
    And the border between Russia and Germany along the Vistula is good, only all Poles to Germany. European tolerance let each other be taught.
    On the other hand, you can help Germany swallow all of Poland, I do not mind. Germany is more adequate.
    1. 0
      23 March 2019 16: 35
      There is no one to absorb Poland in Germany, finally calm down with Germany, immigrants from the USSR, Former Yugoslavia, Turks, newly arrived eastern tribes, former Silesian semi-Poles, just Poles and a small number of local people who have long been deprived of national culture, history and traditions are Americanized there. and bow before England and the USA.
      These locals had only a dull, characteristic Teutonic swagger, and at the same time lately they had driven him into the depths.
      Of course there are Germans who understand a lot, but there are few of them and they are suppressed by the system.
      1. 0
        23 March 2019 19: 03
        In vain you are so.
        1. Poles make from Poland a mono-ethnic strona. Germany is now a multinational country. So let the Poles cook in this boiler. Alive. (It’s a pity Napoleon didn’t digest England in his time) feel
        2. In Germany there is one very interesting region - East Germany.
        "Give me back my wall! And make it two meters higher." And the meeting with the Poles will definitely not be warm.
  24. +2
    22 March 2019 21: 23
    It is necessary to return Poland to the state in 1944 and apologize laughing
  25. +2
    23 March 2019 08: 08
    You can demand, but there is no one - the diplomats of Russia are a children's toy "slime" ...
  26. +4
    23 March 2019 08: 43
    "We really really lack a more honest, offensive, even a little aggressive approach to solving various kinds of international problems and challenges. We are all afraid of offending someone ..."
    Dear Motherland, God's patrimony,
    Tidbit for overseas mouth,
    Who prophesied your share to you:
    There is no rest - the horde is behind the horde!

    If only half a century to live in a peaceful harbor,
    All desires are freedom and labor.
    But regularly come for a shroud
    Those who have been robbed for centuries.

    Bits of enemies, slain countless
    Only there is a property of our victories:
    We, noble, with pure thoughts
    We bring all our exploits to nothing.

    We feed the enemies like a baby nurse,
    And we inflame their appetite.
    Time passes - again they lather,
    Again, a horde stands at the border.

    How much patience can you test ?!
    It would be time for us to change places ...
    Sorry we are others and a mask of humility
    Again we try on the motherland.
  27. 0
    23 March 2019 08: 59
    Demand reparation for the ruin of Russian lands in the Time of Troubles.
    Then the money was very full, at current prices it can turn out more than the US public debt.
  28. 0
    23 March 2019 11: 31
    Quote: kiu
    Quote: AKuzenka
    showed the Anglo-Saxons their worst nightmare (union of Russia and Germany)

    That's what they put the bolt with the device on, so it is on the "union of Germany and the USSR". Simply because the industrial potential of the USSR was slightly more than zero. And nobody was interested at all. And only the Yankees could arm and feed the Soviet mob potential. Germany could not do that.
    Therefore, the union of the USSR with the Anglo-Saxons was dangerous for its victims. And the union of Germany and the USSR is ridiculous.


    Impudence is the second happiness ... Is it okay that this "near zero" zeroed the industrial potential of the whole of Europe? And that the production of the T-34 alone was 71% of the production of the M4 Sherman? And there was also a bunch of our heavy tanks and self-propelled guns ... The production of the Il-2 was superior to any other aircraft in the world. Do not forget that, according to the German tanker O. Karius: "One Russian is more dangerous than six Americans."
    If the USSR had merged with Germany and Japan, the USA and England would have lived very briefly. One could forget about the landing in Normandy forever.
    1. kiu
      -7
      23 March 2019 13: 55
      Quote: meandr51
      Is it okay that this "near zero" zeroed the industrial potential of all of Europe?

      Did you come up with this yourself or did you rewrite it from Sovagitprop propaganda?
      The industrial potential of the countries of the Anti-Hitler coalition (the USSR was one of them) was an order of magnitude higher than the industrial potential of the Axis countries. The Axis countries included only a part of the countries and only continental Europe.
      Quote: meandr51
      And that the release of the T-34 alone was 71% of the M4 Sherman issue?

      As I see it, you have no idea what the country needs (including its rear) for a long-term war. Therefore, you prefer to tell funny Soviet stories about the release of the T-34 and IL-2.
      What for? The total production of T-34 and IL-2 in the total volume of products required for the war is small.
      Quote: meandr51
      Do not forget that, according to the German tanker O. Karius: "One Russian is more dangerous than six Americans."

      The Red Army soldiers killed 19 million people. Germans on the Eastern Front lost 3,58 million people.
      Not on the Eastern Front of the Germans killed another 1,74 million people.
      At the same time, 108 thousand people died in Europe in Europe. The British (on all fronts, including Asian) 286 thousand people.
      So draw conclusions who were more dangerous. And do not read all this nonsense.
      Quote: meandr51
      If the USSR had merged with Germany and Japan, the USA and England would have lived very briefly.

      If the USSR had united with the Axis countries (and this would never have happened, because Dzhugashvili was not an idiot), then starting in 1941 (in March, the United States adopted the "Law for the Protection of the United States" and thereby actually entered the war against the Axis countries) the Anglo-Saxons would begin to gradually roll the Axis countries (including the USSR) into a pancake from the air. I think it wouldn’t come to nuclear bombing in 1945, because for a much shorter period the entire Axis countries (including the USSR) would be returned to their original state. And Europe, from the western borders of Germany to the Volga, would be turned into ruins and desert. Victims would be many times larger than those that really were.
      Of course, it is likely that until 1945 the Americans would not have time to manage. Then nuclear weapons would go into action. And all the same territories would then be lit up for many years by radiation.
      ---
      Having learned about the adoption of the "Law for the Protection of the United States" on 11.03.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, Hitler (and his Partyigenosse) wet himself with boiling water out of fear and already in May of the same year "crazy Hess" was drawn. Which "for some reason" rushed to Britain at full speed.
      Everyone understands why. Although there are no documents on this score yet.
      But Churchill, who had acquired such a grandiose (and this is not a figure of speech) ally in March, was not interested in "German initiatives" in May. Since the song of the Nazis already in March 1941 was finally sung. And then there were just options for how they would be wetted. One way or another.
      As a result, they soaked as they soaked. And they could wet it. The end result (for the Nazis) from this would not change in any way. Unless there could be options if they capitulated as early as the beginning of the summer of 1941, which seems unlikely.
      ---
      If you think that Dzhugashvili (unlike you) did not understand this, then you are mistaken. Back in the fall of 1940, at the Molotov talks in Berlin (before the adoption of the "Law for the Protection of the United States"), he rejected the German proposal for alliance. And in general, I ran into the Nazis quite specifically.
      Why?
      26.09.1940/1940/1941 (before the start of negotiations in Berlin in November XNUMX) the United States imposed an embargo on Japan. This meant that the US hitting Germany was just a matter of time. That is what happened in March XNUMX.
      In the fall of 1940, everyone understood this, both Hitler and Dzhugashvili. But then no one yielded, the negotiations failed. So, the war became almost inevitable. Since the Nazis were clearly not going to surrender (to the Anglo-Saxons) (but in vain).
      Hitler again, the last one, probed the situation in May 1941 (with the help of Hess). And then came 22.06.1941/24.09.1941/XNUMX and then XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX A very important date, which the Bolsheviks, for obvious reasons, in every possible way were silent and overwritten.
      ---
      Learn the story, dear. Useful.
  29. 0
    23 March 2019 12: 01
    sweet smell of large reparations

    So sweet ... With whom would I cut down the reparation? It hurts to want money for free ... no urine! fellow
  30. +1
    23 March 2019 12: 18
    Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
    Attach these goofs to yourself? No, thanks! Only the new Polish uprisings were not enough for us!

    When the German lands were annexed to Poland after WWII, the entire German population on these lands was expelled from these territories. And there will be no "uprisings". Here is a simple solution to the "Polish question".
  31. 0
    23 March 2019 17: 24
    The Coalition of Polish Patriots and Christians posted a petition on the website of the American White House urging Donald Trump to help Poland receive indemnity from Germany and Russia.

    Well, it’s already interesting, where else to post something, and to whom laughing fool
    "Patriot-antonym-traitor to the motherland"
    "Christian-antonym-heterodox"
    And these "patriots and Christians" did not think about the fact that their country gained independence from Soviet Russia (it was the usual general governorship). Does the "great power" want to return to Germany the territories "donated" to her after the Second World War by the Soviet Union (in fact)? Well, if we continue the historical excursion with an economic bias, then Poland has been "living on debt" for three hundred years
    A percent interest laughing good
  32. 0
    24 March 2019 12: 46
    First, we need to restore the true historiography, which we allowed at one time to rewrite to please the Polish "ally". World War II began not at all on 01.09.39/XNUMX/XNUMX with the Wehrmacht attack on Poland, but a year earlier, when Germany and Poland, in alliance and close cooperation, seized Czech territories. It must be admitted that the aggressor countries that started the Second World War were Germany and Poland. And after that it will be possible to talk about reparations.
  33. 0
    26 March 2019 08: 55
    With the current government, it is difficult to expect something pro-Russian, rather pro-Western.
  34. 0
    27 March 2019 09: 43
    First you need to take Berlin.