In India, they say that the F-16 Pakistan Air Force was shot down by a Su-30 fighter

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Foreign media comment on the situation that is unfolding these days between Pakistan and India. At the same time, most foreign experts agree that, despite the long smoldering contradictions between Islamabad and New Delhi, the “real fire” could have been avoided. At the same time, different parties to the conflict are called the culprits of aggravation in different countries.

In India, they say that the F-16 Pakistan Air Force was shot down by a Su-30 fighter




So, the Chinese media make it clear that for Beijing, the Indian authorities were the culprit, who gave the order to bomb Pakistan’s territory in violation of its air borders.

Chinese experts say that the Indian authorities have decided to respond by bombing the territory of a neighboring state, accusing terrorists of “Jaish-e-Mohammad” in a terrorist act against Kashmir police officers. It is noted that in New Delhi, they should initially have assumed that Pakistan will not leave a violation of its air borders without an answer. This happened - two planes of the Indian Air Force were shot down by Pakistani air defense calculations, the Mi-17 helicopter crashed down (presumably, it was also shot down), one of the ejected Indian pilots was captured.

Recall that after that India was hit by an F-16 fighter from the Pakistani Air Force. Moreover, the plane fell in 3 km from the border with India - in Pakistan. In Pakistan, they say that he did not cross the Indian borders, but because India has shown another act of aggression.

In India, they say that the F-16 was shot down by an air-to-air missile from the Su-30 aircraft. Moreover, it is stated that the F-16 carried out the intersection of the Indian air border.

And in Pakistan they claim that one of the downed planes of the Indian Air Force was “Drying” of the same model - Su-30.

Meanwhile, the European media point out the need for an urgent international discussion of the situation on the Pakistan-India border. At the headquarters of the European Union noted that we are talking about the conflict between the two nuclear powers, which threatens not only these countries, but virtually all the world.

Meanwhile, New Delhi is calling Islamabad accountable for “sponsoring terrorism” and also demanding the arrest of the leader of the Jaish-e-Mohammad, who is currently undergoing treatment, allegedly in a Pakistani military hospital.

At the moment, the airspace over the main part of Pakistani territory is completely closed. Passenger flights from airports of Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad and other major cities of the country are canceled.
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  1. +4
    27 February 2019 12: 14
    God forbid, if the leadership of these countries takes up nuclear keys ...
    In India, they say that the F-16 was shot down by an air-to-air missile from the Su-30 aircraft. Moreover, it is stated that the F-16 carried out the intersection of the Indian air border.

    And in Pakistan they claim that one of the downed planes of the Indian Air Force was “Drying” of the same model - Su-30.

    Reminds dancing two roosters.
    1. +20
      27 February 2019 12: 17
      Quote: NEXUS
      God forbid, if the leadership of these countries takes up nuclear keys

      would you take it? .... no and I'm sure that they won’t take too! Most likely there will be a 5-day conflict along disputed territories without land border crossing ...... I want to believe in it ((
      1. 0
        27 February 2019 12: 21
        Most likely it will be like in World War II, tanks and planes.
      2. +25
        27 February 2019 12: 22
        Quote: Sandor Clegane
        Most likely there will be an 5 daytime conflict along disputed territories without land border crossing ...... I want to believe in it ((

        I think I'm even sure that the Anglo-Saxon ears stick out behind this story, so nothing happens in this world without them. And fueling military conflicts around the world is their favorite pastime.
        1. +4
          27 February 2019 12: 26
          Quote: NEXUS
          Anglo-Saxon ears stick behind this story

          the question was different ..... will there be a boom or not .... and again you are talking about ears .....
          1. +5
            27 February 2019 12: 28
            Quote: Sandor Clegane
            the question was different ..... will there be a boom or not .... and again you are talking about ears .....

            It is about them ... the Anglo-Saxons need everything to burn around. And one thing comes out of the other. And if you remember that the United States is trying to bend China, then the whole picture develops. China is Pakistan’s ally ...
            1. +1
              27 February 2019 12: 28
              Quote: NEXUS
              It is about them ... the Anglo-Saxons need

              what do you need??????????? nuclear boom ?????????
              1. +18
                27 February 2019 12: 31
                Quote: Sandor Clegane
                what do you need??????????? nuclear boom ?????????

                What bothers you? Or do you firmly believe that the world government, the leading circles of the Anglo-Saxons strongly care about whether there will be such a war overseas or not? Remember Hiroshima ... was it all that bothered them so much?
                1. Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: Sandor Clegane
                  what do you need??????????? nuclear boom ?????????

                  What bothers you? Or do you firmly believe that the world government, the leading circles of the Anglo-Saxons strongly care about whether there will be such a war overseas or not? Remember Hiroshima ... was it all that bothered them so much?

                  ***
                  Can you tell us more about World Government? What kind of World Government is this, that there is a mess in the world, why do they need a mess (if it is, there is a World Government)? What are his goals and which Light Knights of Good prevent them from their sinister plans?
                  1. +5
                    27 February 2019 12: 49
                    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
                    Can you tell us more about World Government? What kind of World Government is this, that there is a mess in the world, why do they need a mess (if it is, there is a World Government)? What are his goals and which Light Knights of Good prevent them from their sinister plans?

                    Have you heard about the concept of the golden billion? Or about the Bilderber Club? Or do you really naively believe that presidents do world politics?
                    1. I heard hundreds of all kinds of concepts ....
                      1) And who, in your opinion, is included in this ALL WHOLE BILLION? Every SEVEN is the Eighth inhabitant of the Earth? Where is this HAPPY BILLION hiding?
                      2) Have you heard about the Billiard Club in Nizhny Tagil? *
                      3) I naively believe that you elected Putin as president and he makes his own policy from which members and non-members of the Bilderberg Club are generally sick.
                      * According to Chip Berlet’s journalistic investigation, the right-wing radical American activist Phyllis Schlafly is the founder of this theory of world governance by a certain Bilderberg club. Before her, there was no sinister club of the World Government in the form of the Bilderberg Club. Dozens of such forums are held annually in the world, the main of which is in Davos.
                      I repeat the questions in a new numbering in addition to the above 1-3:
                      4) What is such a POWERFUL World Government, that there is a mess in the world, why do they need a mess (if it is, there is a World Government)?
                      5) What are his goals and which Light Knights of Good prevent them from their sinister plans?
                      1. +2
                        27 February 2019 13: 52
                        4) What is such a POWERFUL World Government, that there is a mess in the world, why do they need a mess (if it is, there is a World Government)?
                        Everything is very simple - the more mess in the world, the more attractive it becomes to invest in prosperous and calm economies, such as in the USA.
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                      3. +2
                        27 February 2019 18: 30
                        Fima, well, you’re so direct, don’t show us your Jewish ears. And about the World Government or the Deep State - only the lazy one does not speak in the United States. Enlighten yourself through a series of articles by David Wilcock on the subject.
                      4. +1
                        27 February 2019 18: 53
                        stuck Fima to himself and the USSR and the Russian Federation and the colonel ... and argues as a first-year from a heder laughing wassat
                      5. Quote: Dart
                        stuck Fima to himself and the USSR and the Russian Federation and the colonel ... and argues as a first-year from a heder laughing wassat

                        ***
                        If your training takes place at XREN.TVU, you can believe in any superstition. My education does not allow me to believe in any dregs. I have a military and civilian education- diploma with honors.
                        Do you have doubts about my rank?
                      6. +2
                        27 February 2019 23: 50
                        Absolutely..
                        I spent five minutes reviewing your posts ... there is very little aviation, there is no informative aviation at all, which at least hinted at your "vocational education" .... but if the topic concerns any Jewish question, then you are right there.
                      7. Quote: Dart
                        Absolutely..
                        I spent five minutes reviewing your posts ... there is very little aviation, there is no informative aviation at all, which at least hinted at your "vocational education" .... but if the topic concerns any Jewish question, then you are right there.


                        Commander of the communications platoon of the Airborne Forces of the Airborne Forces Airborne Forces Air Transport Command (lieutenant) - head of the department of the command and control units of the Air Defense Forces Air Force VTA Air Force (Senior Lieutenant) - chiefs of the staff of the airborne forces and air defense forces of the Air Naval Forces Air Force (captain) - chief of the staff of the obs and rto airborne forces of the Air Force Air Force (major) - head of the center ZKP VTA Air Force and Airborne Forces (lieutenant colonel). In the latter case, I organized one of the types of communication between the airborne command and control airborne forces and airborne forces with all command posts, divisions, regiments, military and airborne forces brigades of the USSR Armed Forces (RF), superior and interacting headquarters in the USSR (CIS), as well as outside the USSR and the Russian Federation in their application.
                        If the questions relate to control, communications (wired, radio, radio relay, tropospheric, satellite, classified), notifications, organization of flight control, radar, interaction with childbirth, types of aircraft, interaction with air defense, combat use of military aviation and air forces, and the air force as a whole , then I understand this well. In specific aircraft models (except for BTA aircraft), their armaments, I am not an outstanding specialist.
                      8. My military path does not involve discussing issues beyond my competence.
                        My last position is the Head of the center of the US ZKP VTA and Airborne Forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation. The rank of lieutenant colonel. Everything related to communications, command, alert, interaction, air traffic management organization, the strategy and tactics of using the Air Force, Air Force and Airborne Forces and interaction with the types and arms of the army are at your service.
                        To get into disputes where I am not a good specialist, I have no intention.
                        PS If the topic concerns any Jewish question, then you are right there. Why's that?
                      9. +1
                        28 February 2019 10: 44
                        Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
                        To get into disputes where I am not a good specialist, I have no intention.


                        Here I completely agree with you and try to do the same.
                        BUT and understand what your actions look like for site visitors - high-profile titles and not a word on the profile.
                        And the Semitic question, well, I don’t like your brother (I hope you won’t clarify why) and I’m not embarrassed about it .. Although I say again, the Jew (the aunt’s husband) was a most beautiful person and an honored specialist in one of the space industry design bureaus, Earth he rest in peace, respect immensely.
                      10. You can love any brother and BORAT (https://yandex.ru/video/search?text=%D0%91%D0%9E%D0%A0%D0%90%D0%A2%D0%90). And not to love. It's your right. I, for example, do not like Nazis, fools, loafers, lovers of hawthorn and biting the entrances from among the "Aryans", but I do not translate this dislike to the entire titular nation.
                        Shl with the opinion that "he is a Jew, but I'm a good guy." At the same time, real Jews are nearby, as a rule, good, but in general, some and somewhere there are bad.
                        Here were two brothers of the squadron commander, Jews, excellent pilots and commanders, who were not allowed to move. And my brother and I did not easily receive titles. The mechanism of state "braking" took place.
                        In order for a Jew to move in the army, it was necessary to rest in the service like many Russians had never dreamed of.
                      11. +2
                        28 February 2019 19: 22
                        USSR Air Force lieutenant colonel in reserve IN ISRAEL - must be added to the nickname.
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                      13. +3
                        28 February 2019 23: 10
                        Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
                        USSR Air Force lieutenant colonel in reserve IN RUSSIA.
                        *** Greetings from the mountain Urals!

                        But who will believe you with your Texas accent? Your reasoning is typical of the Russophobic zapadentz. Why do you dislike Russia so much?
                      14. Vova, my Jewish ears are much more Russian than many Russians. Therefore, do not switch to nationality, because I think in Russian, I speak Russian from birth (except later studied Uzbek, English, Ukrainian, commander and abusive), I am a man of Russian culture, like almost all Jews born in the USSR. And they served the USSR and the Russian Federation, and worked and are working, be sure, the Jews are no worse than the Russians.
                        PS 1) I am a patriot of Russia, but not kosovorotny, not leavened and lip not in borscht. I am not a liberal, but I do not deify Putin and his government.
                        2) I have enough knowledge, skills and abilities to independently study any issue.
                        3) I myself write poetry and prose, I can write anything.
                        4) . And about the World Government or the Deep State - only the lazy one does not speak in the United States.
                        - That's just a lazy mind and speaks of "World government" ...
                        5) Enlighten yourself through a series of articles by the same David Wilcock on this topic.
                        - So enlighten in this way.
                        6) Our "World Government" in Russia - Putin and his government! There are no others here!
                        7) HREN.Tvru, etc.- not my way of learning.
                      15. -2
                        28 February 2019 05: 33
                        Fima, you, with your indomitable and fervent eloquence both in defense of Jewry, and in complete denial of the evidence of the existence of the so-called The World Government, which everyone seems to know about (except those who work for it))), only confirm vague doubts about you - are you a real colonel, and if so, whose army?
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                      17. +2
                        28 February 2019 12: 13
                        so what a mess then? who benefits? enough water to pour, underground
                      18. 0
                        28 February 2019 20: 31
                        Hmm ... colonel, and such a stream of consciousness was poured ... is it a banter, I hope, or ..... you weren’t commissated with the case, mentis morbo?
                      19. +1
                        1 March 2019 04: 36
                        what a quintessence of nonsense after all
                      20. +2
                        27 February 2019 19: 11
                        Before writing about the answer that didn’t suit you, for a start you would have correctly understood the meaning of what I wrote. Investing is now more important than money and the country in which they invest getting richer (that's short). If there is peace and quiet all over the world, many countries and companies could invest anywhere, but the United States, with its gigantic consumption, is not profitable, they need to invest as much as possible in their economy, and for this they need to make a mess in the world and all the money will flow to them. "Money loves silence" - it's simple. As for printing money, but they print as much as they want and still not enough, it is necessary to somehow maintain that crazy standard of living in the United States, and also to supervise the whole world with the help of a giant army ..
                      21. Mikhail Samuelievich! Exactly, money loves silence. Everyone sells everything for money. So the globe is now arranged. Buying countries, dictators and enemies, selling countries, dictators and friends. The mess in any country is first arranged by the authorities of that country, and then, from all sides, a variety of parties will join in who want to snatch, strengthen, pursue their interests, take advantage of the situation and take out the furniture during a fire. There are no countries - angels, countries - devils. Moreover, there is no one world government, and general chaos is an example of this. There would be a world government that governs the world, it would govern something: in a world of mess, cesspool and corruption. So it was, it is, and it will be so. The whole history of mankind is a confirmation of this.
                      22. +3
                        27 February 2019 22: 04
                        I don’t know about the world government, but the ball is ruled by mattresses and all other large Western countries financially and politically subordinate to them. But all the creams are removed precisely by mattress covers, which need a universal mess on the ground, with the exception of their territories. The latest example: Macron has voiced his voice about the European army and what is happening in France, everyone sees. And before him, De Gaulle, you ... vanished, and the students quickly overthrew him from the throne. Do not find analogies? Well, I think no need to explain about Iraq, Libya and Syria.
                      23. Mikhail Samuelievich! And so it is clear throughout the world, cynical, but true: 1) He who is stronger is right; 2) The winners are not judged, the winners judge themselves; 3) Whoever pays the girl dances her; 4) Do not have a hundred rubles, but have a hundred friends with billions. 5) So that the cow died from a neighbor.
                        The point is not that Macron voiced his voice about the European army, this is "Manilovism" in reality, but as many as 25 demands for yellow vests. Moreover, if you read them carefully, it is a mixture of Euroskepticism of the extreme right and the extreme left. From limiting migration to breaking banking monopolies, from protecting the environment (although the rise in gasoline prices is the result of the signing of the Paris Agreement on Climate Protection) to leaving the EU and NATO. We are used to "eating up" all the "reforms" of the government without a murmur. Read these requirements. They seem reasonable to me https://ru.sott.net/article/6323-25-trebovaniy-zheltykh-zhiletov-vo-frantsii
                      24. 0
                        1 March 2019 10: 24
                        An interesting article, but not the quantity and meaning of the requirements, but the time when they appeared and I think that it is the Americans who are behind all this.
                      25. +2
                        28 February 2019 19: 50
                        Quote: flint
                        I don’t know how about the world government

                        "World government" is a conditional concept, it is clear that from a legal point of view there is no world government, but there is a group of people of Jewish nationality who can influence our civilization much more strongly than others, that is, in practice, there is a world government.
                        Moreover, "is" or "not" a world government is determined not by the actual presence of this government, but by the worldview of a person.
                        For a Western person - a liar in essence - legal proof is needed, since a Western person is a liar - then he cannot assume that someone will tell the truth despite the benefit. That is, the legal side is more important for the Western person, and for him there is no world government. And "Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve" - ​​an example of such a person - is not legally = not in nature.
                        For an honest person, no legal justification is needed, "a gentleman's word is believed," for a Russian person, once someone can rule, then there is a government, although its functions are not legally fixed.
                        This "Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in the reserve" is not Russian, not Russian, and he is not for Russia, he is against the Russians, against the Russians and against Russia, he disguises himself as "ours" in order to conduct anti-Russian propaganda on this resource.
                      26. +3
                        28 February 2019 12: 16
                        what country did you go underground? tell me and the people will answer you, as everyone climbs into my country
                      27. +2
                        28 February 2019 12: 12
                        Do not you think that to deny the possibility and existence of a conspiracy is a little arrogant. ..... Since people got off the branches ... (without V.S. Vysotsky we will do enough) and divided into tribes, the conspiracy became one of the very effective means of fighting the enemy. It would be strange that today some of the most powerful powers in the world would not use this method of struggle!
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                      30. +3
                        27 February 2019 14: 25
                        cool answer comrade lieutenant colonel, plus you, I seriously agree with you
                      31. +1
                        27 February 2019 16: 52
                        Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
                        And who, in your opinion, is included in this ALL WHOLE BILLION?
                        why do they need a mess

                        See the answers here https://aftershock.news/?q=node/542937
                      32. 0
                        27 February 2019 18: 16
                        They do not need a mess, but the destruction of white peoples. The mess in this matter is just an assistant. Who is the main enemy on the planet? White normal man. Is it really not visible?
                      33. Quote: Oleg133
                        They do not need a mess, but the destruction of white peoples. The mess in this matter is just an assistant. Who is the main enemy on the planet? White normal man. Is it really not visible?

                        Well Oleg, then the GOLD BILLION, and this is clearly WHITE PEOPLES, then their destruction.
                        So all the same, the GOLD BILLION or the DESTRUCTION of WHITE PEOPLES?
                      34. 0
                        28 February 2019 00: 08
                        The so-called "golden billion" is the population of the group
                        "developed countries" (UN classification). These are countries with
                        relatively high standard of living,
                        developed health care, judicial system, etc.
                        Any country, having made an economic breakthrough and created the basics
                        democratic system
                        may fall into this billion. It is constantly expanding.
                        The so-called "world government" is the heads of state of this very "golden billion" and leading industrialists
                        and financiers who unsuccessfully try to create some kind of economic and social planning.
                      35. voyaka uh (Alexey), I completely agree that this is a conditional "golden billion" ... with the same success it can be conditional "four billion", "two billion" or "seven hundred million". It can be both G-7 and G-20, developed countries (30 countries) and new industrial ones, countries of the WEF or IMD ratings, countries in terms of total GDP and countries per capita, etc. Politicians, financiers, economists and industrialists of the leading countries will never agree on the solution of all world and interstate problems.
                      36. 0
                        28 February 2019 12: 12
                        Air Force, nice guys ...
                      37. +1
                        28 February 2019 19: 18
                        Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
                        What kind of POWERless World Government is it, that there is a mess in the world, why do they need a mess (if it is, there is a World Government)?

                        Normally such an Anglo-Saxon Zionist world government, which this same mess and support.
                        Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
                        What are his goals and which Light Knights of Good prevent them from their sinister plans?

                        Simple goals - world domination (and no need to pretend to be a fool - absolute domination does not happen)
                        How to defeat them?
                        To undermine - the enemy economically - it is necessary to arrange a civil war revolution in the economically developed countries occupied by the enemy - Germany, Japan, South Korea, and Britain in the first place.
                  2. -1
                    28 February 2019 12: 16
                    Really ... If, for example, I lead a certain structure - why do I need a mess in it? I’ll go crazy with this. No.
                2. 0
                  27 February 2019 13: 37
                  But I'm thinking about oil prices.
              2. +1
                28 February 2019 19: 12
                Quote: Sandor Clegane
                what do you need??????????? nuclear boom ?????????

                This is exactly what the Anglo-Saxons need - a nuclear boom, so that the Asia-Pacific region goes into ruin and does not compete (economically) with NATO.
            2. -1
              27 February 2019 12: 46
              Quote: NEXUS
              Anglo-Saxons need everything to burn around.

              what is their benefit?
              1. +14
                27 February 2019 12: 51
                Quote: NEOZ
                what is their benefit?

                To do this, remember the events of the WWII and WWII ... with which nishtyaks from these wars the USA came out. And after WWII, the USA became a power pole for, almost a century. At the same time, have you heard the saying, do money like silence? And if shells burst around, blood spills, and in the USA there’s quiet and grace, where will the money go?
              2. +7
                27 February 2019 12: 55
                Sale of weapons. Business is nothing personal. Weakening potential competitors with the possible subsequent sale of wild beads. And the creation of pro-own parties in all structures of power. Just in case. In a poor country, it’s easier to buy politicians, and opposition leaders, and ordinary officials.
            3. -1
              27 February 2019 14: 19
              Bullshit, the US has already bent China, the Chinese have supported sanctions against S. Korea, are making concessions on a trade agreement to close the $ XNUMX trillion difference, it’s just that China’s roads with Russia diverge
          2. +1
            27 February 2019 17: 35
            Boom of course. And sell them more weapons. Let them have fun for the Anglo-Saxon interests.
            1. 0
              27 February 2019 19: 34
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Boom of course. And sell them more weapons. Let them have fun for the Anglo-Saxon interests.

              We would have to learn how to earn Anglo-Saxons, money and resources in other people's wars! recourse And so, again all the same will be welded, and we have a slight radioactive infection and a global humanitarian catastrophe at hand! Better be quiet!
              IMHO hi
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          1. +5
            27 February 2019 12: 43
            Vladimir, given the support of China by Pakistan, as well as the mutual dislike of our neighbor with India, it seems to me that in addition to the standard ears of people who constantly rekindle something, they carefully monitor how the pieces move around the board, the narrow eyes of our big neighbor
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            2. +1
              27 February 2019 17: 37
              There is such a possibility. Only there is one but. China does not need war, in any form. And the Anglo-Saxons really need it.
        3. -29
          27 February 2019 12: 41
          In Russia, when once again he speaks with the Indians on the subject of buying and selling weapons, they should think with their head and not only about money, but also about the consequences !!! Let the macaques jump along the vines and throw bananas or coconuts. All metal to give them in their hands on the verge of madness on the part of the giver.
          1. +14
            27 February 2019 12: 52
            I doubt either the sincerity or the adequacy of the advice / recommendation. If India does not buy what is required from us, then it will buy it from our competitors. So you need to think not only when selling weapons, but also when writing texts.
            1. -12
              27 February 2019 13: 14
              Do you consider yourself a thinking person? A fixation on money, as it leads to other thoughts! Imaginary commercial gain is an illusion. since in Russia there will soon be no one to produce and there is no sense in this money. at least for defense.
              1. +6
                27 February 2019 13: 23
                "Obsession with money, somehow leads to other thoughts!"
                Do not measure everything by yourself. The sale of Russian weapons is the support of science / research institute of the military-industrial complex, military-industrial complex enterprises and the salaries of workers and state income. The argument "no use for defense" is a "past the basin" argument. I do not want to hang labels, but behind such arguments the ears of "liberals or some other horses" cannot be hidden.
                As they say: the opinion of the publisher may not coincide with yours. All the best.
                1. +1
                  27 February 2019 17: 40
                  Do not waste your energy on the outspoken hype - the liberal. Let him go to the country where they brought developed democracy to Libya, and feel the grace in his own skin. But he won’t go, he’s not paid for this.
                  1. 0
                    27 February 2019 20: 36
                    Yes, I already understood))
              2. +1
                28 February 2019 22: 08
                Quote: Evgeniy667b
                Lock on money

                Exactly, do not get hung up on money. if we do not give China and India access to the latest weapons, the West will crush them.
          2. +1
            27 February 2019 13: 18
            Quote: Evgeniy667b
            on the subject of purchase and sale of weapons, should think head

            Are they selling a nuclear bomb? Conventional weapons, which, if Russia does not sell, others will gladly sell. There is a queue. A holy place is never empty.
            1. -12
              27 February 2019 13: 25
              And what about nuclear submarines and the Su-57 are "conventional weapons? After all, carriers of atomic weapons, which the Indians have."
              1. +4
                27 February 2019 13: 32
                Quote: Evgeniy667b
                nuclear submarines and, the Su-57 is "conventional weapons?"

                And what is unusual? What is special? Oh yes, you see the carriers of nuclear weapons. So what? If a country has nuclear weapons, it can be anything.
              2. +4
                27 February 2019 14: 46
                A nuclear bomb in the trunk of a Lada can be delivered to its destination. What now, do not sell Lada?
            2. 0
              2 March 2019 05: 16
              The aspen nest of young ladies has stirred up! That's how many people who are ready for money for anything, just not everything is measured by money !.
        4. +3
          27 February 2019 14: 17
          I think I'm even sure that the Anglo-Saxon ears stick out behind this story,

          There, besides the Americans, there are many who rub their hands now. For China, India is a major regional rival and the Celestial Empire has long supported Pakistan with arms. For Saudi Arabia, the war is an occasion to help the Muslims who are not too rich with money and thereby show their leadership in the Islamic world. For Iran, Pakistan is a serious regional rival. Jews, as usual, have fun when Muslims fight.
          1. 0
            27 February 2019 14: 31
            and Russia offers both
            1. +2
              27 February 2019 14: 45
              Russia's transition to the hot phase of the conflict is not interesting. Because ours want to be friends with both those and others. And the war will force one to choose one. Traditionally, we were friends with India, but its main partner is now the states. Yes, and China will not like it. To side with Pakistan means giving India completely into the hands of the Americans, which would not be desirable.
          2. Quote: Nick_R
            I think I'm even sure that the Anglo-Saxon ears stick out behind this story,

            There, besides the Americans, there are many who rub their hands now. For China, India is a major regional rival and the Celestial Empire has long supported Pakistan with arms. For Saudi Arabia, the war is an occasion to help the Muslims who are not too rich with money and thereby show their leadership in the Islamic world. For Iran, Pakistan is a serious regional rival. Jews, as usual, have fun when Muslims fight.

            ***
            Muslims to Muslims (and not Muslims!) Cut off their heads in hundreds of thousands and play football with them throughout Asia and Africa, however. Without any outside help.
            Maybe the Jews are having fun. You would also have fun if your enemies fought themselves. And here they are selling weapons ... like the Russians, too, selling weapons. You did not forget that Russia is the largest supplier of weapons, including to all sorts of hot spots?
            1. 0
              27 February 2019 23: 41
              . You have not forgotten that Russia is the largest supplier of weapons,

              Already forgot. Because we were not the first for a very long time, according to the forecast this year we will be the third after the USA and China
            2. +1
              28 February 2019 22: 12
              Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
              Muslims to Muslims (and not Muslims!) Cut off their heads in hundreds of thousands and play football with them throughout Asia and Africa

              This is your western NATO lie. No Muslims cut their heads or cut anyone, Islam is a peaceful religion. Anglo-Saxon militants are cutting their heads, posing as Muslims, but essentially being servants of the Catholic Church.
        5. 0
          27 February 2019 14: 34
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Sandor Clegane
          Most likely there will be an 5 daytime conflict along disputed territories without land border crossing ...... I want to believe in it ((

          I think I'm even sure that the Anglo-Saxon ears stick out behind this story, so nothing happens in this world without them. And fueling military conflicts around the world is their favorite pastime.

          USA - "- and to the delight of all to the bourgeoisie! let's fan the world fire ... "
        6. Fat
          +3
          27 February 2019 19: 04
          Quote: NEXUS
          I think I'm even sure that the Anglo-Saxon ears stick out behind this story, so nothing happens in this world without them.

          Yes you are right. The division of India into two dominions in 1947 was initiated by the British. They laid a time bomb ... The section led to such a displacement of peoples that India and Pakistan are still raking in the aftermath. According to some reports, as a result of skirmishes by 1951. killed about a million people.
        7. -1
          27 February 2019 19: 45
          maybe "Chinese ears" stick out?
      3. +5
        27 February 2019 12: 29
        Yesterday, they also wrote with confidence that Pakistan would not respond in any way to the attack of India and the violation of airspace
      4. +1
        27 February 2019 14: 28
        You do not compare us (him / me / you) with them (Pakistanis and Indians). They have a completely different attitude towards death, for some it is a transition to a new life, for others it’s a ticket to the guria.
        ps I'm not so smart, the guy here wrote yesterday in a comment on another article. But the point is accurate
      5. 0
        28 February 2019 14: 43
        they have already had many years, war is only on one small theater.
    2. +9
      27 February 2019 12: 22
      Nothing changes, BV, the Himalayas and the Caribbean are ablaze.
      1. +13
        27 February 2019 12: 26
        In India, they say that the F-16 Pakistan Air Force was shot down by a Su-30 fighter
        Not good that's it No. Russia and China, as global players in the region, need to tightly tear India and Pakistan.
        The support of either side should not be a priori.
        1. +6
          27 February 2019 12: 32
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Russia and China, as global players in the region, need to tightly tear India and Pakistan.
          The support of either side should not be a priori.

          Namely -DIVOR ANGLES, without waiting for peretonit. And tough and fast.
          1. +10
            27 February 2019 12: 36
            Quote: NEXUS
            DIVIDE ANGLES without waiting for pertonit. And tough and fast.

            And first of all, it is precisely in the interests of Russia, because by supporting / not supporting India in the conflict, you are in any case loser.
            Therefore, it is prudent to PREVENT ...
            1. 0
              27 February 2019 12: 37
              Quote: Separ DNR
              And first of all, it is in the interests of Russia

              Not. There are even more interests of China.
              1. +3
                27 February 2019 12: 48
                Quote: NEXUS
                Not. There are even more interests of China.

                I do not agree. And that's why. China has uniquely the only partner in the pair India-Pakistan.
                And the Russian Federation, in the event of an escalation of the conflict in rendering / not rendering assistance to India, will definitely make enemies. Whether it is Pakistan, India or China.
                Yes, China. For China will be extremely concerned about the acceptance by Russia of the Indians (if, I repeat, the Russian Federation will choose this option).

                Therefore, a bad world is better. Even under duress.
                1. +2
                  27 February 2019 13: 30
                  Quote: Separ DNR
                  China has uniquely the only partner in the pair India-Pakistan.

                  Yes, it seems like China has territorial claims to both.
                  Quote: Separ DNR
                  And the Russian Federation, in the event of an escalation of the conflict in rendering / not rendering assistance to India, will definitely make enemies. Whether it is Pakistan, India or China.

                  why's that? what do you mean by "helping"?
                  Quote: Separ DNR
                  Yes, China. For China will be extremely concerned about the acceptance by Russia of the Indians (if, I repeat, the Russian Federation will choose this option).

                  have you heard about the Brahmos project? about localizing AK production in India? did you receive any claims from the PRC? no. and both of them buy weapons from us. to sell tanks it is not necessary to "take sides".
                2. +1
                  27 February 2019 18: 43
                  Actually, we recently started to build relations with Pakistan, incl. in any case, the war is not profitable for us
          2. 0
            27 February 2019 13: 25
            Quote: NEXUS
            DIVOR ANGLES,

            As much as possible, for the first time or something. Here, as Putin said, it is necessary to hit not only the place of origin of aggression, but first of all, the places of decision-making. I mean, the cause of the Indo-Pakistan conflict is very far from Islamabad and Delhi. Guess exactly where three times.
        2. +3
          27 February 2019 12: 35
          of Russia and China, as global players in the region, needs to tear India and Pakistan tightly.

          Seriously?? But does Russia have any leverage over India or Pakistan?
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          2. +1
            27 February 2019 12: 45
            Quote: 777-3-59-97
            But does Russia have any leverage over India or Pakistan?

            To India, yes ... for example, it may refuse to supply missiles, air defense systems for multiple launch rocket systems and air defense systems. Refuse fighter service and freeze anti-ship missiles. Yes, you never know ... at the same time, the Kremlin has very good relations with India and, I am sure, both China and the Russian Federation have many opportunities to stop this conflict.
            1. +13
              27 February 2019 12: 51
              for example, it may refuse to supply missiles, air defense systems for multiple launch rocket systems and air defense systems. Refuse fighter service and freeze anti-ship missiles.

              Cut off ties with one of the main consumers of military-industrial complex products, for the sake of Pakistani Islamists and their narrow-eyed patrons? Ingenious good good
              China and Russia have many opportunities to stop this conflict

              Does China need it? I think the conflict between India and a third party is quite suitable for them.
              1. +1
                27 February 2019 12: 54
                Quote: 777-3-59-97
                Does China need it? I think the conflict between India and a third party is quite suitable for them.

                It would not have needed all this if India and Pakistan were not owners of nuclear weapons. So your conclusions are fundamentally wrong. And speaking of the fact that they are not able to rotate nuclear keys ... do you want to verify this?
                1. 0
                  27 February 2019 15: 18
                  As far as I understand and know this situation, China has a desire to chop off, or rather, in general, considers a sickly piece of India its territory. Well, at the same time they are fanatics, and at the same time, the nuclear potential of India, to put it mildly, fades against the background of China. Again, as far as I understand and I see it.
                2. -1
                  27 February 2019 22: 38
                  Oh yes, they had this nuclear weapon 2 times and counted it, and then only aerial bombs with a capacity of up to 10 kt from Pakistan pieces 20-30 and from Indians pieces 50, which still need to be delivered.
              2. +1
                27 February 2019 13: 08
                It is even more ingenious to support India and (tie the power of Siberia and other projects to a knot). And what is the smell of war (radiation) to China? And they are the assembly site of the world and who will buy their goods smelling of war (radiation)?
            2. +3
              27 February 2019 13: 02
              And in our place in a day American arms companies will come :)
            3. +1
              27 February 2019 14: 32
              may refuse to supply missiles, air defense systems for multiple launch rocket systems and air defense systems. Refuse fighter service and freeze anti-ship missiles

              Someone recently shouted that the Anglo-Saxons were fueling this conflict. Then they will rejoice when Russia is still quarreling with its arms buyers. Even the world government did not dream of such stupidity.
        3. +4
          27 February 2019 12: 54
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Russia and China, as global players in the region, need to tightly tear India and Pakistan.

          China and India are long-standing opponents. China will always be on the side of Pakistan. China is the largest arms supplier to Pakistan and its second largest trading partner.
          China supports Pakistan’s stance on Kashmir’s affiliation, while Pakistan supports China’s affiliation with Xinjiang, Tibet and Taiwan. At the diplomatic level, they will call for restraint on both sides, but will actually be on the side of Pakistan.
        4. 0
          27 February 2019 15: 12
          China needs it more than India and Pakistan.
        5. 0
          27 February 2019 20: 51
          Quote: Separ DNR
          global players in the region need tough tug on India and Pakistan

          How? Yes, and why climb into conflict, cat. directly does not affect our interests in any way? And both India and Pakistan are not our allies - trading partners. Despite the fact that to Pakistan there is an account (and memory of him) for Afghanistan.
      2. +8
        27 February 2019 12: 27
        Quote: hrych
        flames of BV, the Himalayas and the Caribbean.

        At the same time, some people constantly broadcast that "they need democracy and peace." As I understand it, all. negative
    3. +4
      27 February 2019 12: 25
      Quote: NEXUS
      Reminds dancing two roosters.

      And don’t say it! Roosters with nuclear spurs. For China, India is the main enemy after the United States, so it’s not surprised from the reaction. From this conflict we are not comfortable. The Aeroflot plane was forced to land in Tashkent due to an incident between the Indian and Pakistani air forces in Indian Kashmir. The liner operates a flight Moscow - Bangkok.
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    5. +3
      27 February 2019 14: 52
      The F-16 was shot down not by Sushka, but by the MiG-21 "Bizon", one "Bizon" was lost by the Indians in the same battle. This is the official statement of the Hindus. The second shot down, this is not Hawk, there is an old photo.
      https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/full-text-mea-statement-on-pakistans-violation-of-indian-airspace/articleshow/68184136.cms
    6. +1
      27 February 2019 15: 07
      Quote: NEXUS
      Reminds dancing two roosters.

      Absolutely...
    7. 0
      27 February 2019 21: 58
      Quote: NEXUS
      God forbid, if the leadership of these countries takes up nuclear keys ...
      In India, they say that the F-16 was shot down by an air-to-air missile from the Su-30 aircraft. Moreover, it is stated that the F-16 carried out the intersection of the Indian air border.

      And in Pakistan they claim that one of the downed planes of the Indian Air Force was “Drying” of the same model - Su-30.

      Reminds dancing two roosters.

      That's it: fighting dances of fighting cocks. It won't go further than this. Opponents will shout hoarsely: "Hold me, or I will kill him !!!". The world community will begin to calm down the fighters, who are themselves frightened. It is one thing that the military power of India is superior to that of Pakistan in conventional war, and another thing is nuclear weapons for both opponents. I remembered Lermontov: "And Garin went out, loaded bullets and pistols at home, sat down and lit his pipe ...". drinks
  2. -2
    27 February 2019 12: 16
    If so, then this is a good advertisement for our Su 30.
    Although blood .... am
    1. +3
      27 February 2019 12: 24
      If it is confirmed that one of the downed aircraft is the Su-30, then there will also be anti-advertising ....
      1. 0
        27 February 2019 12: 36
        China is for Pakistan, and the United States is for India. When the exchange of nuclear and strikes takes place. By the way, a thousand-year-old oak fell recently in Israel, according to legend, when it falls, a war will begin.
        1. +8
          27 February 2019 12: 56
          Quote: new max
          according to legend, when he falls, a war will begin

          Not war, but the end of the world.
          Oaks fall, red cows are born, the Dead Sea comes to life, deserts turn green and bloom. I congratulate everyone on the end of the next stage of life on the planet and on the advent of a new one. Hooray comrades!
          1. +1
            28 February 2019 22: 20
            Quote: Petrix
            Not war, but the end of the world.

            Not "end of the world", but "apocalypse", these are completely different concepts.
        2. -2
          27 February 2019 14: 18
          Oh, the whole history of Israel, this is one big legend)))
      2. +3
        27 February 2019 14: 09
        According to the official information of the Indian side of the conflict, one MIG 21 was lost in the battle with the Pakistani Air Force, another MIG 21 shot down Pakistani F16, there are no references to the Su30
    2. -2
      27 February 2019 12: 48
      Sergei 777 What is there still advertising. What are you about??? They generally are all contraindicated !!!
  3. -3
    27 February 2019 12: 16
    Well, it began ... China is there that climbs? USA is just what you need ..
    1. +15
      27 February 2019 12: 23
      China already has a territorial conflict with India. So China does not care and it is completely on the side of Pakistan.
      But we have a problem. So, continuing to supply arms to India will look bad from the perspective of Pakistan and China. With Pakistan, figs with him. But China is already serious.
      The US wins anyway by supporting the Indians against the packs and the Chinese.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 12: 36
        What are you? And as the Russian Federation replied, when China began to supply its photocopies of our equipment, thereby selecting a sales market represented by Pakistan
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 13: 40
          Select a market is a competition. It happens even dishonest. And shooting down planes is a war. A bit different things.
      2. +1
        27 February 2019 12: 38
        Quote: malyvalv
        China already has a territorial conflict with India. So China does not care and it is completely on the side of Pakistan.

        So what am I talking about ... If even China gets involved in this slaughter, there such a batch will begin to be completely disgraced throughout Eurasia.! But the United States will only rub their hands and write off their debts intensely inciting the conflict to other countries .. I hope Russia will observe from the side and will not get involved?
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 14: 59
          The policy of non-intervention also implies non-delivery of weapons to the conflicting parties.
      3. 0
        27 February 2019 12: 51
        Since continuing to supply arms to India will look bad from the point of view of Pakistan and China


        And who are we to Pakistan? And who is China to us?
        1. 0
          27 February 2019 13: 38
          Pakistan is nobody, but China is very important. From the point of view of economics, first of all. We can take so many things, especially military electronics, only there. From the West, it won’t work out, but not ours. Rather, a lot of things are not.
          1. +2
            27 February 2019 13: 45
            . We can take very many things, especially military electronics, only there.


            1 The Chinese sell us something just because it’s profitable for them and not for partnership reasons
            2 In terms of economics? Will they stop trading with us? Not funny.
            1. 0
              27 February 2019 13: 54
              Well, for example, if China begins to supply tanks and air defense systems to Ukraine in order to fight against the Donbass, we will think about the supply of oil and gas to China? So for the Chinese, deliveries of our weapons to the Indians will not seem ridiculous at all in the conditions of a severe aggravation of the conflict.
              1. +1
                27 February 2019 14: 34
                if China starts supplying tanks and air defense missiles to Ukraine to fight against Donbass


                There, NATO does not really want to supply modern weapons.
                And even for the money.
                What is China?

                And who are the Pakistanis for the Chinese?
                Brothers by blood and faith?
              2. +1
                28 February 2019 22: 24
                Quote: malyvalv
                Well, for example, if China begins to supply tanks and air defense systems to Ukraine

                Seriously? laughing
                What logistic ways will they do it? Who will pay for it? and how long will Ukraine last in the REAL war with Russia?
                1. 0
                  1 March 2019 02: 07
                  The question was purely hypothetical. Our reaction to this is important and not in what ways and who pays.
                  1. +1
                    1 March 2019 16: 16
                    Quote: malyvalv
                    The question was purely hypothetical. Our reaction to this is important and not in what ways and who pays.

                    Why worry about something that will never happen? And who cares about our reaction to "nothing"?
      4. 0
        27 February 2019 14: 16
        Well, in general, Pakistan can be supported by the supply of arms, speaking about the lack of maturity of the Hindus, maybe then they will become more docile, but the conflict certainly needs to be stopped, the leaders of China and the Russian Federation must come to an agreement and settle everything, I remember the GDP quickly with Armenia and Azerbaijan ...
        1. 0
          27 February 2019 14: 41
          and of course the conflict needs to be stopped, the leaders of China and the Russian Federation agree and settle everything


          I would not run ahead - there is a lot of incomprehensible
        2. +3
          27 February 2019 15: 57
          Quote: Incvizitor
          with Armenia and Azerbaijan, I quickly taxed GDP I remember ...

          only India is not Armenia with the 5000th base of the Russian Federation and is completely dependent on the Russian Federation and Azerbaijan is not Pakistan with nuclear weapons and is far from the Russian Federation.
  4. +3
    27 February 2019 12: 16
    If both sides figure out what losses a serious conflict could cost them, this could stop him from sliding into war.
  5. +5
    27 February 2019 12: 16
    In India, they say that the F-16 Pakistan Air Force was shot down by a Su-30 fighter

    The first combat victory on the Su-30?
    Or have you already been? what
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 17: 48
      If confirmed, then the first.
      And in general - the first victory of our (in the sense of Soviet / Russian) fighter of the 4 generation over the fighter of the 4 generation not ours production.
      Before that in real air battles "4th generation against 4th generation" in domestic machines were only victories of the Ethiopian Su-27 over the Eritrean MiG-29 in 1998-2000. (3 or 4 wins).
  6. 0
    27 February 2019 12: 17
    Quote: NEXUS
    God forbid, if the leadership of these countries takes up nuclear keys ...

    It is true.
    However, there is a different factor.
    We once had a Caribbean crisis.
    Let's hope that this will be a confrontation, which, as a result, will calm the warrior on both sides for a considerable period of time.
  7. +2
    27 February 2019 12: 19
    Hmm. A good neighbor is better than a distant relative.
    Pakistan has a good neighbor - China. In India -? (USA request )
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    2. +1
      27 February 2019 12: 37
      Narenda Modi ... this is not Indira Gandhi. confused in priorities.
    3. +2
      27 February 2019 12: 39
      Pakistan is the same. India is only Muslim.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 12: 40
        About how Croatia is the same Serbia is only Catholic.
    4. 0
      27 February 2019 12: 40
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Hmm. A good neighbor is better than a distant relative.
      Pakistan has a good neighbor - China. In India -? (USA request )


      It turns out that way. Although there is enough hostility / hatred without external interference, there are quite a lot of territorial / cultural / religious disputes and conflicts in the world.
    5. +4
      27 February 2019 13: 45
      Theoretically, RUSSIA, but then there is a problem with China. Although to get the packs a holy cause for Afghanistan.
    6. 0
      27 February 2019 15: 20
      It seems like there frog and foggy ears stick out
  8. +6
    27 February 2019 12: 19
    It’s bad that the conflict of nuclear powers erupts ,,, but there are nuances - this is, first of all, how the armament of Russian and American production (possibly not only American) shows itself, i.e. aviation, air defense systems, etc. .... for analysts of the Moscow Defense Ministry a lot of work.
  9. -2
    27 February 2019 12: 26
    So, the Su-30 has baptisms of fire in air battles. He shot down and they shot him down. Combat experience.
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      1. +1
        27 February 2019 12: 48
        Two blondes in a car. One starts to panic while moving:
        - Yes, you turn! Turn! Ahhhh !!!!
        The second:
        -You are driving, you turn.

        Are you hinting that whoever steers should steer? )))
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            1. 0
              27 February 2019 13: 55
              sorry, it happens
    3. KCA
      0
      27 February 2019 13: 01
      Hindus write that the shelling of Pakistan was Israeli SPICE-1000, can they really be screwed to Sushka? Doubts take me, F-16 or Mirage shot down by Indian
      Well, yes, already in the news they write that Mirage 2000 was bombed
      1. 0
        27 February 2019 13: 41
        The base attack was carried out by mirages, air defense apparently provided the su-30. I wonder what kind of modification the f-16 was and how the battle was fought, autonomously or on a tip from the ground.
    4. 0
      27 February 2019 13: 46
      Shot down like Mig-21
    5. 0
      27 February 2019 18: 49
      Quote: voyaka uh
      So, the Su-30 has baptisms of fire in air battles. He shot down and they shot him down. Combat experience.

      Is that what they say in Israel? Well, what did he bring down and they hit him?)))))))) The key word and they hit him))))) Oh, Israel’s wet dreams))))
    6. +1
      28 February 2019 22: 27
      Quote: voyaka uh
      So, the Su-30 has baptisms of fire in air battles. He shot down and they shot him down. Combat experience.

      Your joy is visible with the naked eye. This is because you previously wrote that you are not happy with our defeats!
      PySy How is moon-hopping there? Jumped?
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  11. +2
    27 February 2019 12: 30
    "In India they say," a serious source .. that's how Kiselev says !! sounds the same. we would have confirmation of this. it would be a balm.
    1. -4
      27 February 2019 12: 58
      Quote: SS-18 Satan
      this is how Kiselyov says !!

      Kiselev always tells the truth. Is not it so?
  12. 0
    27 February 2019 12: 32
    In India, they say that the F-16 was shot down by an air-to-air missile from the Su-30 aircraft. Moreover, it is stated that the F-16 carried out the intersection of the Indian air border.

    I wonder who are these who say? And then on "VZGLYAD" already the BOD was set on fire - it turned out to be just planned fire-fighting exercises.
  13. +8
    27 February 2019 12: 33
    The vile British who are leaving their colony of India divided it into two parts are to blame for this conflict.
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 12: 43
      The British created the country from a heap of principalities, they divided it. There is no crime. The dirty trick is how to share. Most likely intentional.
    2. +1
      27 February 2019 13: 38
      Abominable creatures faint shaven.
    3. -3
      28 February 2019 00: 18
      "who, leaving their colony of India, divided it into two parts." ////
      -------
      And they had to leave one country with mixed Muslim and
      the Hindu population?
      That there was continuous massacre and pogroms quarter after quarter?
      Village to village?
      In 1918, the League of Nations completely settled the Turks and Greeks. And stopped
      centennial massacre. The British did exactly the same thing
      in India: created Hindu India and two Muslim countries
      Pakistan and Bangladesh.
      1. +1
        28 February 2019 02: 03
        Of course, the British were primarily concerned about the well-being of the people of India. Isn’t it funny for you yourself? However, it’s not surprising to hear from you, you see, as always, you are defending any bastard like the British. Unpleasant you type.
        1. -4
          28 February 2019 10: 59
          Visit England once as a tourist. You'll like it.
          I have been there (and visited) more
          ten times ... Been in many cities and rural areas.
          You just read all kinds of political agony, and that's bursting with you ...
          1. +1
            28 February 2019 12: 23
            And what nonsense did you write? You become ridiculous.
          2. +1
            28 February 2019 22: 33
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I have been there (and visited) more

            hand washes the hand
      2. +1
        28 February 2019 22: 33
        Quote: voyaka uh
        That there was continuous massacre and pogroms quarter after quarter?
        Village to village?

        And you ask your relatives in the USA so that they do not sponsor these pogroms - and these pogroms will stop laughing (only divine intervention).
  14. 0
    27 February 2019 12: 33
    Russia must remain above the battle, in extreme cases, freeze military cooperation with both sides of the conflict
  15. +1
    27 February 2019 12: 35
    East is finally a delicate matter, but in this particular case, it is also vigorous!
    I really do not want to see the intensification of such a conflict to something more!
    1. 0
      27 February 2019 12: 41
      I do not want to, but in the meantime, on the flyradar I watched a picture of unfolding civilian sides and now the sky is almost empty over Pakistan. Of course, they can be reinsured, but every threat is serious.
      1. +2
        27 February 2019 12: 49
        Neighboring countries cancel transit flights. The sky of Pakistan is closed.
        1. +2
          27 February 2019 13: 04
          I wonder why, then, flights over other conflict zones are not always canceled?
          Pakistan air defense has a hodgepodge, and India is no less colorful. Now see who is best trained?
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  16. 0
    27 February 2019 12: 38
    The Sith will avenge their love
    1. +5
      27 February 2019 12: 42
      Maybe the Sikhs?
    2. Fat
      0
      27 February 2019 19: 44
      Quote: 100502
      The Sith will avenge their love

      These will take revenge! And the film was shot in 2005 "Star Wars Episode III", "Revenge of the Sith"
  17. +2
    27 February 2019 12: 39
    Thus, the Chinese media make it clear that for Beijing, the Indian authorities are responsible
    Well, who would doubt it, considering not the simple Sino-Indian relations and the very close Pakistan-Chinese relations. Moreover, China is now the main supplier of weapons to Pakistan, such a conflict could become, if not an advertisement for it, then a good testing ground. Sinful, I'm waiting for the frontal collisions of the T-90 and T-84 ...
    1. 0
      27 February 2019 13: 36
      In such a battle, everything will depend on whose crew is more trained and too matte. They have the same part. Although I think the tower of the t-90 against bops will be stronger than the t-80.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 13: 41
        Quote: Igor K
        Although I think the tower at t-90 against bops will be stronger than that at t-80.

        Based on internal tests, Ukrainians from the 90’s claim the opposite, but that’s not even the point, I would like to compare these two machines in real confrontation in the complex ...
  18. +1
    27 February 2019 12: 46
    Two hours ago, Indian media reported that in the evening 26.02, the Indian army destroyed 5 border posts in Pakistan. Residents of the border zone are advised not to leave their homes, mutual mortar and artillery shelling continues. On the Indian side, five soldiers were slightly injured. According to information on 16: 14, communication with the MIG-21 Air Force of India has been lost.
  19. +4
    27 February 2019 12: 50
    If there was an air battle between the su-30 and f-16, then the result is good. Pack our old foes across Afghanistan.
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    1. +2
      27 February 2019 13: 10
      Only now there is one nuance - all these prophecies are not associated with the Messiah that many think, but with the Jewish "messiah" Moshiach, who will come to fulfill the "covenant" between their god and the "people of Israel" (and only one of all " tribes ") - to put this" tribe of Israel "over all other nations. And yes, remember the unprecedented event in history, the meeting in Cuba of the two heads of the Orthodox and Catholic churches? they suddenly decided to talk from "just like that", yeah.
    2. +3
      27 February 2019 13: 10
      Something on the street with posters "Help! Don't let me die in virginity!" the virgins did not notice. Although I wanted so much ... lol
      The Mayan calendar has already ended, and a lot of the ends of the world have been celebrated, but all the "predictions" will not end.
    3. 0
      27 February 2019 13: 16
      you need to end with this obscurantism ... after the Mayan calendar, you still have to wait a bit ... a couple of years. for those who distribute this, a little later, more people will be led to this ohinea ...
    4. +3
      27 February 2019 13: 41
      ", in the Dead Sea, where life until now was considered impossible due to the high salt content in the water, fish were found" ///
      ----
      Not in the Dead Sea, but in the pits near the Dead Sea, which are filled with a mixture of salt water and fresh from streams flowing down in the winter after rains in the sea. So, live in peace.
      The Apocalypse is not foreseen.
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      2. 0
        27 February 2019 14: 09
        Yeah, a red cow, a two-headed snake, and what is there?
      3. +1
        28 February 2019 22: 36
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The Apocalypse is not foreseen.

        The apocalypse is terrible for sinners, for the righteous it is a holiday.
  21. +3
    27 February 2019 12: 59
    Well done Su-30
  22. +2
    27 February 2019 13: 03
    Sometimes steam must be released to prevent the boiler from exploding. I hope that now all this will be limited to small local skirmishes. I'm wondering, is the CIA giving state awards to its fighters "mujahideen"? As soon as something needs to be set on fire somewhere in Asia, the "mujahideen" will immediately blast off explosions.
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 14: 10
      green papers
  23. +2
    27 February 2019 13: 04
    ... And the plane crashed 3 km from the border with India - in Pakistan .... Moreover, it is stated that the F-16 crossed the Indian air border.

    If the plane really wants to bring down, and he, the infection does not cross the border, then, for the sake of such a case, you can move the border temporarily.
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  24. Quote: Vladimir 5
    You are right, the provocation is played out as if by notes, the script was written in advance by the beneficiaries - the USA and Israel

    ***
    I'm glad you are in the subject line, but
    1) How do you know that "the provocation is played out like clockwork, the script was written in advance by the beneficiaries - the United States and Israel? Are you familiar with their secret plans?
    2) Do you have your own people and beneficiaries? Where do the "fireballs" come from?
    1. +1
      28 February 2019 22: 38
      Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
      Where are the "firewood"?

      ... from the woods ...
      You do not notice the obvious. You will never tell the truth if it is not beneficial to you, you will lie and wriggle.
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    1. 0
      27 February 2019 14: 08
      it’s better not to let each other dance, otherwise if the nuke goes into the matter, then everyone will get involved. And we need it
  26. -2
    27 February 2019 13: 42
    Another fact confirms that our weapons are much better in quality and more effective in combat situations.
  27. +8
    27 February 2019 14: 01
    Presently:
    Indian MiG-21 lost in Pakistan - captured pilot (s) (one identified - Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, a MiG-21 Bison pilot). Officially recognized by India and shown by Pakistan. The second was only in the morning officialdom of Pakistan MoD - and a muddy video. But it is unclear whether it is true or old. So far, only Abhinandan Varthaman has been presented.

    By the way, the pilot was almost lynched - nothing had begun yet, but already exorbitant cruelty.
    https://twitter.com/Mumtazz_Maneka/status/1100698474851561472
    Indian Mi-17 - lost in disputed territory, all died.

    No other evidence. You can declare a death star.

    Both sides are actively building up their forces - transferring tanks:

  28. 0
    27 February 2019 14: 02
    China spoke, oh, something he doesn’t hiss in Israel
  29. +2
    27 February 2019 14: 10
    Quote: malyvalv
    continued arms shipments to India will look bad in terms of Pakistan and China.

    It looks like that now .. and so what ??
    From the point of view of "the whole world", the delivery of our weapons to Syria looks bad ..
    And how many points of view regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict .. And this is very embarrassing for the US ??
  30. -2
    27 February 2019 14: 13
    It is urgent to apply BRAMOS on radars and airfields ... pieces 20. And they will make a rustle and good advertising.
    1. +3
      27 February 2019 14: 19
      Nope. On the contrary, the situation is now going according to the best scenario. Caught the incident - and calmed down. To not do it - they do it deliberately and not now.

      Worst case scenario - they caught the incident and immediately raised their big wings to take revenge on the MiG-21 and the anti-aircraft, Bramos at the airfields, etc. The other side would also respond. As a result, once the Mushrooms would already begin to grow. Well, that is - this is an uncontrollable situation. The conflict on it did not go.
      1. -4
        27 February 2019 14: 41
        A couple of nuclear explosions demonstrative and all.
      2. +4
        27 February 2019 14: 56
        They have already done this: they are fighting on the ground and with great losses, but they don’t grab hold of nuclear swords and even just dolvoi weapons. And do not even threaten to apply it. Reasonable people.
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 15: 00
          So Yes. But there is still politics. In fact, with this situation, the ruling forces may not go to the April elections, because nothing will shine there. Therefore, revenge - at least from this point will have to.
  31. 0
    27 February 2019 14: 17
    The main thing is not to hurt us, but there are many Indians and packs - tens of millions more or less - not the essence
  32. +3
    27 February 2019 14: 34
    Cynically, but this conflict is beneficial to our VPK, maybe the Indians will stop dancing with tambourines around contracts and joint development with us
  33. +4
    27 February 2019 16: 15
    This Pakistani nits will also be responsible for the deaths of our pilots and soldiers, and according to the Jewish upbringing, the Hekmatyar has been crying for a long time
  34. 0
    27 February 2019 16: 32
    In the event of war, arms sales to these countries will increase.
  35. -1
    27 February 2019 16: 36
    Once a single state ... there are a lot of examples, you don’t have to go far ..
  36. -2
    27 February 2019 17: 45
    And here, what Indians write about it:
    The Pakistan Air Force was detected and the Indian Air Force responded instantly. In that aerial engagement, one Pakistan Air Force fighter aircraft was shot down by a MiG 21 Bison of the Indian Air Force. The Pakistani aircraft was seen by ground forces falling from the sky on the Pakistan side. In this engagement, we have unfortunately lost one MiG 21.
    https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/pakistan-jets-violate-indian-air-space-full-text-of-government-statement/story-EzJoWeLRitvArJee3VWslM_amp.html
    Che-Su-30 is not mentioned here
  37. -2
    27 February 2019 17: 49
    https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/437604-watch-indian-pilot-arrested-by-pakistan
    This is a Pakistan site with videos and photos of a downed Indian pilot captured by Pakistanis.
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  39. 0
    27 February 2019 18: 36
    In the dry residue:
    1. Pakistani group 14.02. staged an explosion in Indian territory, killing at least 44 fighters.
    2. In revenge India 26.02. bombed the group's camp in Pakistani territory. India claims that 12 Mirages-2000 were used, with up to 300 militant casualties. Pakistan does not confirm the victim. He says the bombing was inaccurate due to opposition. In India, it is believed that Israeli-made "Spice" UABs were used (not officially confirmed).
    3. The next day, 27.02., In the Indian territory the Mi-17В-5 helicopter crashed, 2 pilot, 1 civilian (and, presumably, 4 fighter) died. India claims that this is a non-combat loss, Pakistan does not claim to be shot down.
    4. On the same day, Pakistan announced the downing of 2 Indian fighters. What exactly brought down - does not report. The first fighter shot down - this is Mig-21, crashed in Pakistani territory, the pilot was captured, the wreckage and the pilot presented to the press. India recognizes the loss, saying that it happened in an air battle. The second (according to Pakistan) a downed Indian fighter is the Su-30, which fell on Indian territory. India does not confirm his loss.
    5. On the same day, India declares that in the same aerial battlein which the MiG-21 was lost, the Pakistani F-16 was shot down. The statements are somewhat contradictory: either the MiG-21 hit him, or the Su-30. Fell on Pakistani territory. We are waiting for what Pakistan will say.
    1. 0
      27 February 2019 19: 23


      Cruel morals there in Kashmir ...
      1. -1
        27 February 2019 23: 51
        The pilot is sincerely sorry, he is not young in appearance and even wears glasses. The situation with him is quite common in many conflicts. On pilots, anger is often taken out (partly you can understand). I hope that Abhinandan Varthaman will return home when all this madness is over. Patience and strength to him and his family.
        1. +1
          28 February 2019 07: 01
          Patience to the pilot ???))) Usually, when the pilots strike a bomb or attack, they don’t think that the people below are ... Spit))))
        2. +1
          28 February 2019 09: 00
          That's it. In India, apparently, staff shortages, once with poor eyesight are taken into fighter pilots.

          And in general it is strange that outdated MiG-21 are used at the forefront. They also planned to withdraw from service even 2 years ago.
          By the way, why on Glock-26 was the serial number covered with chewing gum?
          1. 0
            28 February 2019 14: 36
            the moments of the latest modification, in principle, against the Pak's "Chinese" fighters, will still do
  40. +1
    27 February 2019 18: 59
    As I understand it, at these moments the fate of the purchase of the SU-57 by India is being decided In fact, an analysis of the combat situation should now take place and in India there will be serious changes in purchases!
  41. 0
    27 February 2019 19: 11
    No tank attacks, let alone atomic weapons, will be
  42. 0
    27 February 2019 19: 32
    Quote: Krasnodar
    And here, what Indians write about it:
    The Pakistan Air Force was detected and the Indian Air Force responded instantly. In that aerial engagement, one Pakistan Air Force fighter aircraft was shot down by a MiG 21 Bison of the Indian Air Force. The Pakistani aircraft was seen by ground forces falling from the sky on the Pakistan side. In this engagement, we have unfortunately lost one MiG 21.
    https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/pakistan-jets-violate-indian-air-space-full-text-of-government-statement/story-EzJoWeLRitvArJee3VWslM_amp.html
    Che-Su-30 is not mentioned here

    The packs made a retaliatory raid to bomb the positions of the Indians and they raised the Migi-21 from the nearest airfield. The Indians lost a moment, and if they were to be believed, they shot down one pack aircraft with a r-73 rocket. Maybe not shot down, or maybe not f-16.
    1. -1
      27 February 2019 19: 45
      It also seemed strange to me that the MiG-21 was operating in the same system as the Su-30.
      So the statements of Pakistan about the allegedly shot down the second Indian fighter, and it was Su-30 ... let's say ... do not inspire confidence. As, however, and the statements of the Indian side about the downing of the Pakistani F-16 with their Su-30 (and indeed about the downing of something Pakistan there with something of their own). It is unlikely that antiques such as the MiG-21 would be able to bring down the modern F-16 or JF-17 in an air battle. The fate of the second MiG and its pilot is proof of this. In addition, India claims that the downed Pakistani fell on Pakistani territory. And that means - ends in the water. It is unlikely that Pakistan in their right mind would acknowledge this.
      1. 0
        28 February 2019 01: 44
        So the Pakistanis themselves admit that they shot down their F-16s, but claim that he did not cross the Indian border.
        1. 0
          28 February 2019 05: 55
          New evidence: Pakistan denies the downing of its fighter.
          https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/trends/pakistan-says-no-f-16-aircraft-used-dismisses-report-of-their-fighter-jet-crashing/story/322823.html
          The Pakistan spokesman, Major General Asif Ghafur, stated that:
          a) Pakistan did not use F-16 at all in this incident;
          b) Not a single Pakistani jet plane was damaged.
  43. Cry
    0
    27 February 2019 19: 51
    So I think that everything will, God forbid, develop according to the long-forgotten script of Vysotsky’s song
    ... He destroys my defense -
    Old Indian - at the moment -
    It vaguely reminds me
    Indo-Pakistani incident.

    Only in vain does he joke with our brother,
    I have a measure, even two:
    If he kills me,
    I him - through the thigh with a grip,
    Or - a horse move - on the head!

    I added a bit of agility -
    Everything is not so gloomy near:
    In the world of chess, a pawn can go -
    If you train - go to the queens!

    Slate began to trick on tricks:
    Get up, run and - back;
    Offered tours to swap, -
    Well, if he hadn’t been afraid of me -
    I’m lying one hundred and fifty!

    I measured his figure with an eye,
    And when he declared me a check -
    I bared my biceps inadvertently,
    He even took off his jacket for fidelity.

    And instantly in the hall it became quieter
    He noticed that I was getting up ...
    Apparently, he was not up to the chips -
    And the praised notorious Fisher
    Immediately agreed to a draw.
  44. +1
    27 February 2019 20: 30
    Quote: Pushkowed
    It also seemed strange to me that the MiG-21 was operating in the same system as the Su-30.
    So the statements of Pakistan about the allegedly shot down the second Indian fighter, and it was Su-30 ... let's say ... do not inspire confidence. As, however, and the statements of the Indian side about the downing of the Pakistani F-16 with their Su-30 (and indeed about the downing of something Pakistan there with something of their own). It is unlikely that antiques such as the MiG-21 would be able to bring down the modern F-16 or JF-17 in an air battle. The fate of the second MiG and its pilot is proof of this. In addition, India claims that the downed Pakistani fell on Pakistani territory. And that means - ends in the water. It is unlikely that Pakistan in their right mind would acknowledge this.

    The MiG - 21 can bring down f-16 packs for itself. Of course it depends on the situation. At one time, the f-15 missile was even planted in the engine over Lebanon. And there the old version was, where the goal of 10 minutes in sight to keep the rocket capturing it. And then the upgraded MiGs with the ability to launch missiles without visual contact.
    F-16 apparently after contact with the twinkles decided to tick and not bomb. And MiGs ran after them and came under fire from air defense. According to the Indians, one F-16 was shot down during the chase. And the air defense knocked down a moment. Or two. Packs also talk about air defense.
  45. 0
    28 February 2019 06: 55
    Another's war is money. A lot of money. It is necessary to welcome)))
  46. +1
    28 February 2019 14: 34
    But at the moment two losses of Indians are sealed. The downed mig-21, which fell to the packs and mi-17, fell 100 km from the border, xs from what. By the way, the engines on Pakistani fighters, which instantly failed, are ours.
  47. 0
    28 February 2019 14: 44
    how were the natives allowed to start nuclear weapons?
    1. 0
      28 February 2019 15: 03
      the funniest thing is that the same usa constantly accuse the dndr that it does not behave rationally, although they have not fought with anyone since 1953. And here are two also nuclear powers, each conflating
  48. 0
    28 February 2019 16: 03
    Moreover, here the mattress covers suffered many times the attacks in their territory, they thought, they did not chew their snot, and they liquidated the base and training center with one blow from the air, and maybe even with a group of sabotage
  49. 0
    28 February 2019 16: 18
    Murakhovsky said that their nuclear weapons were not working, tests were not carried out, and the capacities were small, 10-15 kilotons ... So if there is an exchange of nuclear strikes, it will not lead to a planetary catastrophe ...
  50. Quote: KaPToC
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
    USSR Air Force lieutenant colonel in reserve IN RUSSIA.
    *** Greetings from the mountain Urals!

    But who will believe you with your Texas accent? Your reasoning is typical of the Russophobic zapadentz. Why do you dislike Russia so much?


    You (as a philologist) should have noticed your Ranshofen accent. Please do not get personal. I love Russia more than yours. Just do not identify her government with the country and people.
    Sorry, I did not vote for Putin, but I respect the choice of the people.
  51. 0
    31 July 2019 16: 37
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel USSR Air Force in stock
    Quote: Oleg133
    They do not need a mess, but the destruction of white peoples. The mess in this matter is just an assistant. Who is the main enemy on the planet? White normal man. Is it really not visible?

    Well Oleg, then the GOLD BILLION, and this is clearly WHITE PEOPLES, then their destruction.
    So all the same, the GOLD BILLION or the DESTRUCTION of WHITE PEOPLES?

    You are confusing warm with soft. White men are being destroyed. And whether they are gold or not is completely irrelevant. Russians, by the way, are among them.