There was a photo of T-80 with "bag" protection

A photo of a new modification of the Russian appeared on the web tank T-80BVM, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

In addition to the “Relic” dynamic protection located on the tower, the tank is equipped with a new set of dynamic protection in hinged containers along the sides of the hull.

Until now, such a "bag" defense, which is the fruit of Syrian experience, has been used only on modernized T-72B3 tanks of the 2016 model of the year, but now it seems that it is being massively distributed to all tanks of the Russian Armed Forces.

T-80BVM - the latest modernization of the machine. Improvements include, but not limited to, the installation of the Sosna-U multi-channel sight (which, among other things, is capable of controlling a missile fired from the barrel) and the development of an automatic loading system for armor-piercing projectiles of increased power. In addition, the tank is equipped with an improved engine, updated weapons stabilizer, communications equipment and tracks. The tower is covered by the Relikt dynamic protection, the body is covered by anti-cumulative screens. In the future it is planned to establish KAZ Arena.

Recall that in August of the 2017 of the year, Uralvagonzavod received an order from the Ministry of Defense for the modernization of the 62 T-80B tanks to the T-80BVM level. According to the contract, the supply of finished products was distributed equally for two years - by 31 unit in 2018 and 2019 years.

Comments

[voyaka uh]

What's in the bags?

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Dynamic protection. On the West-2017 exercises, we traveled normally with these bags, nothing came off. Well and replace them at times easier.

[voyaka uh]

Explosive or what?

[Bull Terrier]

inside there is a damping, softening element that takes on the main load upon contact. Behind him is the same steel armor plate and explosive charge

[Vadim237]

Most likely there is a combined armor based on Boron carbide.

[StudentVK]

Laughter, dear) You better think about Syria - Iran. I, too, when I was small, laughed at your towers from the mercenaries. And they appear to help when needed.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: voyaka uh

What's in the bags?

Production!

[voyaka uh]

And ... then - the more the better

[gurzuf]

Well, yes, the prey is the scalp of the enemy.

[SASHA OLD]

Yes, it’s kind of the same DZ only in a different external form factor: it attaches differently and looks different from the outside.
Somewhere in the program I watched about her, specialists will come soon - they will explain in more detail

[voyaka uh]

But there were always boxes there: a bag with explosives in each and a kick-out lid diagonally. And how to put it in a bag?

[SASHA OLD]

bags only on the outside, it’s like, they are part of the fastener, everything is the same inside, but now it’s quick

[voyaka uh]

I get it. thanks

C'mon ... we even have soldiers on their heads.
What is there to talk about tanks ..

[SASHA OLD]

and I read about these "bags" from the Israeli army, they seem to be called upon to save from the heat, and the silhouette of a soldier is "blurred" - do not understand where the head is / do not understand that the head is sticking out because of the shelter - I do not know how it works in practice, but interesting idea

[AAK]

Interestingly, these girls from "Tsakhal" also have explosives in their bags, or is it such a cosmetic bag ... :)))

[mvg]

put on heads

In the process, they also put in their pants ...

[solzh]

Quote: voyaka uh

I get it. thanks

C'mon ... we even have soldiers on their heads.
What is there to talk about tanks ..

Good photo

[faiver]

we have bags even for soldiers wearing heads

- also prey to add?

[loki565]

Quote: voyaka uh

I get it. thanks
C'mon ... we even have soldiers on their heads.
What is there to talk about tanks ..

I hope this is only unbecoming)))

[AVA77]

Bags are not in trend. We have all been invented for a long time and passed field tests.

[Mik13]

Quote: voyaka uh

But there were always boxes there: a bag with explosives in each and a kick-out lid diagonally. And how to put it in a bag?

The destruction of the cumulative jet does not occur due to the displacement of the throwing plate, but due to compression of the jet by the products of the explosive blast in which it moves.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: voyaka uh

What's in the bags?

Money.

[tech3030]

Everything is stolen before us!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: voyaka uh

What's in the bags?

Sawdust!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: voyaka uh

What's in the bags?

Not much is not the topic, but ...... A drunken husband comes home. The wife begins to scold him: - Drunk again! Where is the salary, where is the money ?! - In the bags. - Where are your bags? - Under the eyes.

[egor egor]

Sugar on the brew)))) but seriously then probably a secret

[nemo778]

Quote: voyaka uh

What's in the bags?

Dear Voyaka !!! It would be useful for you .... to see .... This is ---- Video !!! Just the "screen-photo" in the article ... from it !!!

[Tank jacket]

You want to live, not yet ...

[SASHA OLD]

I remember the footage from the chronicles of the Second World War - the Americans (and not only they) loved to "tune" their "EMCs" with logs and sandbags, and even though practice has shown this "tuning" is practically useless, and sometimes it also reduces the view / makes it difficult movement, but if there is at least one percent that this very log and this bag will not allow you to penetrate the tank - the tankers could not be forced to remove this whole kit ... and in some way I understand them

[Tank jacket]

And I remember Kamaz with birch chocks on the fuel.

[SASHA OLD]

and during my entire service I mainly drove on UAZ tadpoles - there were 4 of them on our group, on KamAZ they took me to the Pogranichnik hospital in Kislovodsk from Stavropol (air regiment PV), and to Stavropol from Kaspiysk on ANnushka flew, but that KamAZ "weaving" on the highway crushed confidently

[Rzzz]

Do not compose. KAMAZ with a diesel engine (and he had no others) could not ride chocks.
Could carbureted engines with a low degree of boost. On one and a half. GAZ maximum51.

[volodimer]

We are not talking about "gas generator" engines on wood blocks, but about a protective body kit made of scrap materials, in particular from wood blocks. Of course, more psychology, but it can help. If they say that a 5 ruble coin on superglue helps, then believe me, you will soon see the technique pasted over with coins.

[Rzzz]

Got it, I didn’t get it right away. I apologize.

[voyaka uh]

: and sandbags "////
----
This is from bullets. From bullets helps.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: voyaka uh

: and sandbags "////
----
This is from bullets. From bullets helps.

from bullets and the tank’s armor itself will help ...
but! there must have been a factor: the bullet will go into the bag and will not ricochet, it will not injure infantrymen walking nearby ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: SASHA OLD

I remember shots from the chronicles of the Second World War - the Americans (and not only they) loved to "tune" their "EmChs" with logs and sandbags,

Oh yes! Loved!

[Romka47]

Would you remember about the "wet" ammo rack?

[volodimer]

Sherman delivery of bread, and M-60 delivery of pita bread !!! Sorry could not resist

[svp67]

Well, they took the first step - unified with the t-72Б3, now it does not hinder to consider installing the combat compartment from the T-90M on the T-80 chassis and unify it with armored protection

[SASHA OLD]

and who has better armor protection of the tower by the way? the 90th or the 80th? (if we take exactly the tower, without the "body kit" DZ)

[svp67]

Quote: SASHA OLD

the 90th or the 80th? (if we take exactly the tower, without the "body kit" DZ)

Here, even without question, the T-90 is better than the T-80 ...

[SASHA OLD]

Thank you, I just don’t know much about these matters, I only know how to distinguish them externally and probably everything ...
not a tanker, but I watched the transmission about this "bag" protection - it is quickly replaceable, and besides, it seems like now there will be one option for everyone - it's always good

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: SASHA OLD

I watched the transmission about this "bag" protection - it is quickly replaceable, and besides, it seems like now there will be one option for everyone

So, quick-changeable can be different ...

And even such ...

[SASHA OLD]

the bottom option is not an option: hde alloy wheels?))

[Romka47]

This is not the point, it is floating, but a tugboat I thought you saw it to moor

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Romka47

it to moor

got it!
armored pushken tug

[Romka47]

Haha something like that

[Leopold]

Nikolaevich It seems that the bottom is being prepared for the crossing. It seems that the naval is called fenders.

[vindigo]

I don’t understand. It seems that the main tank in the Russian Federation decided to make the T-72/90. Why are they still messing with the T-80?

[svp67]

Quote: vindigo

Why are they still messing with the T-80?

Because he is the best ...

[loki565]

no, it’s just easier to operate in northern conditions, provided that there is nowhere to put the fuel)))

[svp67]

Quote: loki565

provided that there is nowhere to go with fuel)))

Yeah, everyone who blames the GTE for their great voracity is probably worth a look at the third 200 liter barrel at the rear of the T-90M

[kpd]

T-80 gas turbines are very good in the Arctic.

[113262a]

It is because of this that the entire GSVG (1, 2 TA) was on the t-80! Particularly good defrosted during polar frosts battery! Without which eighty will not start! And that's why in 83 of us in Elani they were prepared for them for the Arctic Circle ... to Pope Assad!)))

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: 113262

And that’s why in 83 of us in Elani

I have two drughs who served in Elani, both sergeants and tank commanders.
there they had a saying in use:

"Who flies faster than a doe?
These are "spirits" from Elan! "

and so I myself am the 83rd year of release ..))
in the sense of birth ...

[113262a]

Lip on lips, like a little one, so as not to repeat nonsense!))) Stupid uncle blurted out about the Arctic, and you repeat!

[faiver]

Well, they are there, do not throw it away

[loki565]

In the north, T80 will lead you into battle in five minutes, and around T90 you will dance with a tambourine for at least an hour)))

[113262a]

If in the north in a warm box, then that you want to start! And 9 months a year to keep the tank wound up, so that the battery does not sit down, who will call smart! I repeat, GTE except as from the battery, does not start with anything! And the rubber-metal joints of tracks and bandages of rollers below -30 become glass! There was one T-10 tank in the north, that’s where it belongs! With a pre-heater, and even with a manual drive-inserted handle-and twist!

[loki565]

Well, that’s what the conversation is about, he launched the turbine on the T80 in any frost, warmed it up and drove off. And the T90 will heat an hour with a heat gun. And no one will do warm boxes for tanks, there is no readiness No. 1 there. Will pick out one snowdrop each)))

[Rzzz]

This is not a BMP, by the way, but MTLB.

[loki565]

This is not my video))) maybe the first time a person sees a moto league)))

[Romka47]

And by the way, surprisingly easily "jumped out"

[113262a]

I repeat, there’s no way how to get a T-80, except from the batteries, no! APU in the cold, also not sugar! With 30 degrees of frost, which stood for a week, one eighty got wound up from the company! And from her already-the rest! And in the north, frosts are 9 months a year! By the way, half of the battery then froze and flowed!

[Romka47]

APU in general, both in cold and cold Just kidding, I'm sorry a little far from the topic of what in your comment means "APU"?

[113262a]

Auxiliary power plant. It was not installed on the t-80b.

[Radical]

Quote: voyaka uh

What's in the bags?

Sand
PS Not sugar.

[Bull Terrier]

bagged .... soft it is called.

[_Ugene_]

and the DZ tower is not covered from above, Javelin or Spike will fly in and a guaranteed kayuk

[tech3030]

And why are the gaps so big, just in case they hope, or as always the savings, just hung up fewer bags (modules)?

[Kaw]

Interestingly, how is this tank protected from the 3rd generation PTRK?

[Vadim237]

The fifth generation has already appeared, and he does not even have protection from the 3rd generation.

[nathanael]

I don’t know how anyone, but I’m sausage from this expression - increased power .. Can’t I just write - increased power

[Orkraider]

Quote: Nathanael

I don’t know how anyone, but I’m sausage from this expression - increased power .. Can’t I just write - increased power

No you can not

These are different terms.

In short and simple language:
Of the same power, the projectile has low power when exposed to a highly protected target and large power when exposed to a weakly protected target. Mb may change in time if the security of the target in the process of exposure changes. For example, when you strike a protected mine launcher when you open a protective device, the power of the impacting combat unit increases dramatically. A fairly complete reflection of the dependence of M. from time sets the coordinate-time law of the destruction of the object. And also the accuracy of the ammunition, the higher it is, the higher the power at the same power.

[SASHA OLD]

briefly, clearly, clearly

[Orkraider]

Quote: SASHA OLD

briefly, clearly, clearly

Thanks, I tried)))
There is an even simpler definition:
The power of ammunition
an indicator of the effectiveness of its action on the target. For example, the power of HE shells is determined by the area of ​​the destruction zone; armor-piercing - the thickness of penetrated armor at a given angle of meeting; fragmentation - the area of ​​the reduced area of ​​fragmentation damage, determined by the number, mass and speed of expansion of the fragments; for all shells - the probability of hitting the target.
This is straight from the directory))

[SASHA OLD]

and no ambiguous interpretations!

[egor egor]

It doesn’t sound

[yasvet]

Quote: kpd

T-80 gas turbines are very good in the Arctic.

Yes, at the parade in Murmansk, they passed, however, with a traditional "skirt"), well, they will hang it themselves)).

[yasvet]

Quote: svp67

Because he is the best.

By the way, DF Ustinov, as soon as he became the Minister of Defense, "put" the car into production.

[yasvet]

Quote: vindigo

Why are they still messing with the T-80?

etozh flying tank

[M. Michelson]

I remember one author suggested sticking the tank on the sides with spikes (to extinguish the energy of the projectile). They laughed at him, but now about the same, only in bags.

[Sztefan]

increased power ... uh! )))

[113262a]

Yes, this is a scientific term!