Results of the week. Or maybe you give another key to the apartment, where the money is?

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Part I. “Why is the war going on? Do they not read newspapers? ”

Seven feet under the bunk

Once again, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation managed to distinguish itself during public procurements for the needs of military personnel. This time it’s not even about halberds with clubs in the literal sense of the word, but only furniture for fleet. It would seem, well, what could be done here so that the sailors would also be left without something to relax on. It turned out that it is possible. To do this, it was enough just to get down to business with Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov - and the furniture from its utilitarian means turned into a subject for discussion and numerous inconsistencies.



The fact is that, as Minister of Defense in the government of Vladimir Putin, Mr. Serdyukov signed a contract paper with the British company Strongbox Marine Furniture, which supplied steel furniture for Her Majesty’s fleet. It seems to be that all rank by rank is a serious company, the words “Her Majesty” added more solidity to her. Contracts, in general, concluded, prepared to even break a festive bottle of champagne on the first metal object of British furniture, but it was not there. Furniture for the Russian fleet stubbornly did not go. It had to go, because it was “laid out”, but, you know, it still did not go. Maybe the British let it under their own power, the fact remains unclear, but in the Russian ports they didn’t wait for how many “beds” with bread and salt.

Moreover, the very office of "Horns and Co ...", that is, Strongbox Marine Furniture was declared bankrupt after a very short time. And with a bankrupt, as you know, bribes are smooth. They began to think: this is just such a tragic coincidence of circumstances, or any case related to public procurement, to which the calloused hand of our Ministry of Defense is being applied, orders us to live a long time.

Thought-thought, but for now thought, the business of the bankrupt "hospital-bed" company decided to buy out a company with a suspiciously similar name - Strongbox Accommodation Furniture Limited. And also, it seems there is nothing reprehensible - it is necessary for someone to assemble furniture for the Russian sailors in Britain. But here, too, everything went along a slippery slope.

It turned out that the new Strongbox is headed by a person who is not at all with a British surname - Ivanov. This Ivanov turned out to be Eduard Ivanov, who also "earns part-time work" in the company "Marine Complex Systems".

After that, they began to think in a somewhat different direction: they say, and why all of a sudden the assets of the British company, which concluded a multimillion contract with the Russian Defense Ministry, are bought by a certain Ivanov. Well, it would be ok if Johnson or Parker had some, and here Ivanov, who still, apparently, doesn’t care with fantasy: Strongbox Accommodation Furniture Limited instead of Strongbox Marine Furniture.

In general, everything did not work out the way they wanted ... Anatoly Eduardovich, of course, wanted to improve the conditions for the combat service of Russian sailors exclusively with the help of British furniture, but after all, these British were rotten: they didn’t allow our minister to make the dream a reality. But now, thanks to countryman Ivanov, things will obviously go. Yes! - even if it is double or triple in price, but is it possible to blame the Ministry for wanting to reach European levels of comfort on Russian warships, despite the prices.

Point one: you can not blame! Point two: but who reproached, that - quick-rr-ro memorize the first paragraph! - They will come and check!

From their bounty

And now the question, what is called, backfilling. Try to guess how you can “ease” the treasury of the Russian Ministry of Defense annually for about half a billion dollars (about 15 billion rubles), so that such spending fully matches the Russian legislation and, moreover, just goes into the sand. Agree, to find an adequate answer to this question is not easy. However, such seemingly impracticable and absolutely senseless tasks as our defense ministry turned out to solve all these years with surprising ease. It turns out that exactly 15 billions of dollars each year go to pay for those servicemen who have already been taken out of staff but have not received their housing. More than fifty thousand Russian officers found themselves in precisely such a situation when, for various reasons, they were dismissed from their posts, taken out of staff, but they did not provide regulated square meters of living space.

Results of the week. Or maybe you give another key to the apartment, where the money is?


50 of thousands of people to whom the Ministry of Defense, due to its slowness, actually pays money for nothing, is a kind of compensation so that they can wait for their turn to get housing. On the other hand, it looks more like what is called - here is the money for you, you just keep quiet in a rag ...

If we consider that a square meter of living space in new buildings in the central part of Russia costs about 32000 rubles, then it can easily be calculated that the same Ministry of Defense could buy about 15 square meters of quality housing for the 470000 billions sounded in a year. This is about 8000 apartments with a total area of ​​55-60 sq.m.

It turns out that in the present conditions it is more profitable for the Ministry of Defense to just throw money into the pipe, rather than actually solving housing issues. And indeed it is, paradoxically, but indeed it is. Why should an official keep in mind all this financial component, announce tenders for housing, why buy already built housing, let's say, by independent contractors, because you can simply withdraw a person for the staff and pay him the money allocated from the state budget. Less headache ...

If this trend continues, soon we can expect the appearance of a real army of “zashtatniki”, which the defense ministry itself is sponsoring. Russia may become the only state in the world where the number of officers retired from the state while maintaining salary will exceed the number of personnel officers. At this rate, the queue for housing made up of Russian military personnel will be able to cover all the borders of our Fatherland. Maybe this is exactly what is being achieved in Anatoly Serdyukov’s department? ..

Apparently, soon the Ministry of Defense may borrow the Baltic experience, where people living in the territory, for example, Latvia and not having a passport of a Latvian citizen, are called non-citizens. Only in the Russian defense variant will its own homegrown term be used - “non-military” or “non-officers” ... In general, the reform, as often happens, is far ahead of common sense ...

Hit in profile

Another one of ours, no less reformist ministry - the Ministry of Education distinguished itself. Officials from the Ministry of Education and Science completed a glorious deed, started by Andrei Fursenko - they introduced a new educational standard that will now regulate the life of the Russian school - now the profile one. People with leather portfolios decided that the school week should be exactly an hour more than the previous standards - this is a time, we need a third compulsory exam (foreign language) - these are two, and a very limited list of subjects required for studying in high school (mathematics, foreign language, Literature and Russian (one subject), physical education and life safety) - these are three. According to the innovations, in Russia after some time there may appear young people who have received a certificate indicating the completion of secondary school, but for the last two years they have not studied at all, for example, chemistry, biology, physics, and a number of other natural sciences. And there may be such graduates who two years of high school had no idea about geography, social studies and world artistic culture.



It is terrible to think about what profile to choose, for example, a young man who wants to enroll in a military college. I chose physics with chemistry, forget about social studies and, accordingly, on the contrary - chose humanitarian subjects - forget about Ohm's law. It would seem that the situation smells like another dead end. But no! The good heart of the new minister, however, sank, and he apparently could not remain indifferent to what is happening. It was decided that if a young man or girl wants to study both physics and, for example, literature and Russian separately, then you can simply pay for one of these subjects ... That's really grief from the mind: you want to be fully developed, as they say. Do not worry! - Pay and learn easy. And you do not want to pay, so you will not see the integration of two profiles.

But in the 11 class, each of the graduates will be completely free of charge to pass the exam in a foreign language. And this is especially true in small schools, where one seventy-five-year-old Marivanna is forced to combine the positions of a teacher of physical education, mathematics and the German language due to a shortage of personnel. Moreover, her knowledge of German is often at the level of knowledge of a person who was once forced to reside in the territory occupied by the Germans ... And here reform can only be carried out in one way - to dismiss this Marivanna and dissolve the school in which she finished her age. Reform, as you know, requires sacrifice ...

In connection with the adoption of the new educational standard, the Ministry of Education and Science should advise to introduce one more innovation: in order to optimize costs and adjust the work of teachers, it is necessary to combine lessons. For example, the first lesson: Russian-language mathematics. Here the eleventh grader solves trigonometric equations, but on the blackboard everything is written in words (tangent alpha plus tangent squared two alpha, etc.). Such a lesson will be led by two teachers at once - the ministry can save on wages. The second lesson is geo-physical culture and biology. Children jump over the goats, and in flight they work with contour maps ...

The year of 2012 - the reform of the Russian education - the flight is normal - all the steps have departed ...

"Dainties" Ksenia Sobchak

During the week, Ksenia Sobchak’s envelopes were the most discussed postal envelopes in the country. And they first attracted the attention of the Investigative Committee, and then the public, far from their colorful stamps, but the fact that they were stored in these envelopes. And this content has impressed many. The leading popular show on TV, Mrs. Sobchak, at home in a postal envelope “million” euros were “preserved” and, according to 480, thousand rubles and dollars, respectively. Such envelopes were removed by operatives after a search of Ksenia Anatolyevna’s apartment.



At the same time, the excitement around honest and overworked earned money is completely incomprehensible. Well, some tomatoes are preserved with cucumbers, others are marinated, but Ksenia Anatolyevna prepared several other stocks for the winter. And after all, no one would have used Mrs. Sobchak in the bins and wouldn’t have gotten; if she had led her House-2 for at least fifty years, Xenia herself apparently didn’t know how to get out of this long-running business. It simply did not work out - the frontal place was delayed back, and so the main “home” of the country decided to take a different path. I am supposedly a millionaire oppositionist - "Down with the power!" Give re-election! "(This is for the public), and -" Well, you get me out of this "House-2", I'll go for everything - even the "March of millions", at least for the Swamp (this is a whisper for the operatives).

And the operatives unanswered to the grief of Xenia Anatolyevna did not remain. You look, it will take another month or two, and the “House-2” will disappear from the screens of the country.
The truth here is, perhaps, even the stakes will have to be done “Who is Who?” - Mr. Bastrykin’s department or the country's most famous “House”. Riders of the Apocalypse, and those and others have enough ...

In the meantime, some horsemen prancing, others poured sweat and checking Xenia’s bills for authenticity and the presence of at least one of them of Michael McFaul's fingerprint ... They will find - just “2-House” can be left without Xenia, but they will not, and the SC risks to be without Mr. Bastrykin ... This is how it is - Russian roulette.

Part II. And again McFaul

McFaul will tell all. Give only time

US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul seems to be among those representatives of the human breed who do not learn from their mistakes.



Speaking recently at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow, in the heat of the lecture he said about “bribes”. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation made him a suggestion, from which he, the poor fellow, departed for ten whole days, from May 28 to June 7. Having departed, the ambassador of the overseas power went to speak at the Russian economic school, where he apologized publicly for what he had said at the Higher School of Economics. Behavior, by the way, is logical: since I’ve been making rubbish of nonsense before economists, so apologize to economists. And nothing that in front of others and in another place. Students of financial specialties now know that a diplomatic synonym for a bad noun “bribe” is a long phrase “financial aid package”.

On Wednesday this week, the Ambassador of America came to speak at the Moscow School of Political Studies. After a successful apology, he relaxed, and also changed English to Russian.

And gave the next Washington secrets to grateful listeners. And they smashed them - in the Internet era - by their Twitter, Facebook and Live Journals.

First, Mr. McFaul сказал: "The State Department and America do not finance and do not give money to the opposition." And he stressed: “The opposition is your business, what you do is your business, not our business, and we understand this very well.”

Secondly, the US ambassador, who, we see, was bored with the questions of the annoying Russian public about where the queue for the grant could be taken, put the blame on the color revolutions being set up in the Moscow squares on the Bush administration: : I know that we do not do it here. This is our clear policy. Other administrations have been doing this. And it is true. Read your history, guys. You just have to learn the facts. ”

Thirdly, McFaul managed to prove a “clear policy” with a “clear” argument: “In America, a change of administration means a change in foreign policy. Condoleezza Rice, she is also a professor at Stanford University, could not be the author of the “reset”, because eight years before us she was engaged in a different foreign policy towards Russia. ”

It is a bit more complicated than a detective game of a bad cop and a good cop. The ambassador hinted that the Republicans are bad and the Democrats are good. Not all Russians can understand this, but Obama is likely to appreciate McFaul’s efforts. Maybe even give a medal. If only the next "bad" - Mitt Romney - Obama does not squeeze out from the Oval Office.

So Mr. Ambassador himself and his Washington boss Obama are good guys. In the current US administration, all are exceptionally good. And Hillary Clinton is also not Condoleezza Rice. Slightly obsessed with Syria and Russian attack helicopters, that's all. In general, everyone in the Obama administration loves Russia and wishes it a successful reboot. For what, ask, reboot? So it is in order to get rid of the bad "color" past, inspired by "other foreign policy", conducted in Russia by the specialists of Bush Jr.

True, to get rid of something does not work. And not only does it not work, but in recent years this “other policy”, it must be admitted, grows suspiciously stronger. Spit - and be sure to get into the grantee or a member of the "non-governmental organization". It seems that, in speaking of a reboot, America implies low-level formatting ...

Twitter and Facebook instead tanks and special forces

Over the past four years, American taxpayers, through the mediation of congressmen and the American administration, have spent 76 millions of dollars in support of freedom on the Internet.



June 14 US State Department Spokesman Victoria Nuland said at a press briefing to journalists: “We are implementing long-term programs that would help people in countries where Internet access is limited, find ways to connect to the network and understand that this is one of the fundamental freedoms. These programs also include Syria. ”

In 2012, Washington is planning to spend 25 million dollars on financing the relevant programs.

What is America financing? And is there really no freedom on the Internet without money? Has freedom really become something to be bought with money?

“Ways of going online” lead to those countries where the US sees a lack of democracy, freedom of speech, human rights and other American values. For example, in Egypt. A year and a half ago, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, giving an annual speech on Internet freedom, said: “Internet access is an inalienable human right. It should be free and open, people should decide for themselves what information to draw from there and what information to share. Freedom of assembly, expression, and freedom to use online networks I would collectively describe as freedom of communication. The United States supports and will promote this freedom everywhere, and also urge all countries to follow our example. ” Egypt would have lived under Mubarak, if not for the all-powerful American Internet. “As soon as access to the Internet was restored there,” Clinton said, “all of Egypt immediately went online. People coordinated actions via e-mail, social networks like Facebook and Twitter played an important role. ”

Said millions of dollars Americans spend on circumventing restrictions imposed on the Internet by some governments, for example, in Syria, Iran, Vietnam, China, launching channels in the languages ​​of the peoples of those countries that they want to connect to the "freedom of speech." Even America is fighting in the defense of offended bloggers and various opposition activists oppressed by the authorities.

Elena Gladkova пишетthat “since Obama’s arrival at the White House,“ democracy ”and“ human rights ”in the Russian Federation have spent more than $ 200 million from the pocket of American taxpayers”.

Money, as they say, mastered. Send more!

Tanks, artillery, missiles, submarines and special forces - very expensive, and the victims can be. And the Internet - and cheap, and angry. And modern. In Egypt, everything turned out well, and now the State Department is doing things in Syria through Twitter and Facebook: insurgents with iPhones run around the battlefields, take off their atrocities and pass them off for the bloody cruelties of the Assad regime. And there, you see, the State Department will take seriously for Russia: Putin’s dictatorship will be dumped, and Navalny will be put in place of the dictator. Democratic way will elect. Or Udaltsova. And in the premiere of it will appoint Ksenia Sobchak. It is only necessary to organize more of the correct Internet!
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  1. iulai
    +49
    17 June 2012 09: 30
    the Americans returned a secret drone from orbit, and Russia deals with the problems of Ksenia Sobchak and the furniture of Minister Taburetkin, when will this mess end?
    1. +11
      17 June 2012 10: 03
      The Ministry of Defense could buy about 15 square meters of quality housing for the announced 470000 billion. These are about 8000 apartments with a total area of ​​55-60 sq.m.
      That is, 50 military men will not receive a salary for a year to buy apartments 000? The military themselves will not agree to this
      1. +16
        17 June 2012 10: 32
        McCall is a gift for Russia. He himself, without torture, calls all with giblets
        1. +3
          17 June 2012 15: 12
          In a recent interview with the Rossiya 24 TV channel, Rogozin answered the host's question: "How is it that you criticize the newly appointed previous defense minister of the Russian Federation?", To which she heard: "And now only the lazy does not criticize him." Deliciously smeared his jerk on a TV channel with a supportive submission of the most coveted radiant Reverend Putin. I would also tell about the newly appointed head of RosMolodezh, his party colleague Aleksandra Bosykh, who declares: "We are given 5-7 years in prison for the swastika at the synagogue, why are they not imprisoned for insulting our shrines." Here I have to ask my litz why rabid queens (Rusi Riotoks) have not yet been imprisoned as Nazis running around Moscow with Nazi signs for attacking the Cathedral of Christ the Savior? And indeed, the trial of the Jewish women who defiled the temple is being dragged out and they cheyt and do sit in the bullpen without trial, and the little Jew who banged the picket girl in the eye in the hot May of the year went for a promotion? It must be like politics! god. do not bring the devil!
          1. +7
            17 June 2012 16: 04
            And what didn’t they say about the American lesbian, what kind of confused the Russian vibrator with a combat helicopter?
            1. +5
              17 June 2012 16: 50
              Is it possible in more detail?))) belay
              1. +4
                17 June 2012 17: 36
                WASHINGTON, June 15. (ARMS-TASS). Statements by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about Russia's new deliveries of Syrian attack helicopters were untrue. This, in fact, was forced to admit on Thursday at a regular briefing for journalists, the head of the press service of the US State Department Victoria Nuland.
                1. 0
                  18 June 2012 05: 04
                  And again about the same: a stool is buying furniture in England and Rogozin is a UAV ... A UAV is in Israel. Where are our Tupolevs, Yakovlevs, Sukhoi, Antonovs, Ilyushins? What, they let everyone under the knife and cut it further?
                  MOSCOW, June 14. (ARMS-TASS). Russia and Israel are negotiating the joint creation of an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). As reported by the "Flight International" weekly, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said this on Wednesday in an interview with the Russia 24 TV channel.
                  "Our goal is to try to convince them (the Israeli partner) to enter into technological interaction and create a product that will be used by them and us, and sold in third countries - this is the goal that we must achieve," prime minister.
                  Russia will no longer purchase ready-made weapons systems in the West, but is only interested in acquiring advanced technologies, said Rogozin, who oversees Russia's defense industry.
                  "Technologies should be used to localize production in Russia," Rogozin said.
                  In mid-May, a source in the Russian defense industry said that in the foreseeable future Moscow could acquire from Israel new large batches of unmanned aerial vehicles and 24 ground control systems (NSOs) for them totaling about $ 50 million.
                  Earlier, Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) previously delivered to Russia two Bird Eye-400 UAVs, eight I-View Mk.400 UAVs and two UAVs A Searcher Mk.150 for a total of $ 2 million, Flight recalls.
                  "The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is considering the possibility of acquiring three types of UAVs (eight each) from the Israeli company Aeronautics Defense Systems: Orbiter 2, Aerostar and Skystar. (Skystar) ", - said the source.
                  Given that each such NSO can serve two to three UAVs, Russia can acquire "48 to 72 Israeli-made unmanned aerial vehicles," Rogozin said, adding that the Defense Ministry has reached an agreement that such systems are a necessary option until the domestic industry has not established large-scale production of UAVs ... UAVs ... UAVs ...
                  1. 0
                    18 June 2012 06: 30
                    UAVs, UAVs are needed to disperse demonstrations, without contact with the police, and as for the mentioned design bureaus, the outstanding aircraft designer Monsieur Poghosyan replaced them all.
        2. +1
          17 June 2012 15: 27
          What Ksenka obshchak the difference where the money will be? Anyway, there are no heirs yet?
          1. broker
            +11
            17 June 2012 16: 04
            Have Sobchak found Common)))
          2. +4
            17 June 2012 16: 10
            Razbazar budget trillions in the Ministry of Defense - "Yes ..., there were people in our time - not like the current tribe (bark beetles)!"
            1. +4
              17 June 2012 16: 51
              Or maybe they don’t squander them, but let them into some secret projects? Nueto, as one of the versions.
              1. +3
                17 June 2012 17: 23
                As one of the projects, this is the development of intelligent robots-moderators of the global Internet to identify terrorists, extremists and elementary dissatisfied with the authorities. During the Soviet Union, a KGB player was assigned to each person. And it was not difficult for me to find this around me with many leading questions after I called the director of my school in a youthful impulse a bureaucrat in public in front of the barefoot system of the whole school for dirty, smelly socks.
                Here recently an interesting incident with my comments happened. I type the text, as usual, in a notepad and then transfer the text to the comment window and enter ... And what appears before my sober gaze in a split second ?! - "and from, I'm a Nazi muzzle, and" This robot has a rather original intellect. And now, when trying to enter a comment with the word "Amerzian", the robot-moderator froze for a long time.
        3. +4
          17 June 2012 16: 01
          What else does the current user need? Five compulsory free items !! Yes, it would have been my will at the time, and on my shoulders 16 objects, including the mandatory constitution of the USSR, were carried out to holes, I would leave only an inkwell in a rag bag. Yes, I lived a hard life - there is something to remember. And, it seems, the new minobra is just from my cohort: I don’t want to study, I just have one inkwell to write laws. I want to power!

          And what didn’t they say about the ugly pervert, what kind of mess did the Russian vibrator with a combat helicopter?
        4. broker
          +1
          17 June 2012 16: 03
          Yes, he just wants to leave Russia; he doesn’t like him here; he initially flew here when he said I wanted to go home to California and forced me to Moscow !!!
        5. +1
          17 June 2012 16: 47
          “Gifts” are not given to such positions. Most likely it is dizuha. Think for yourself ... if McFaul had handed over everyone with giblets, then he would not have worked in this position.
        6. +1
          18 June 2012 09: 50
          Chatterbox he)))
      2. +11
        17 June 2012 14: 33
        decision on the purchase of British furniture for the fleet (No. 235/1/1/5899 of November 9, 2011)

        The Russian company Geser and Aris, which produces furniture for the military and civilian fleet, lost the tender then, but apparently knowing who was behind the British side, its representative then told Izvestia that time will judge us. So it surfaced that usually does not sink, however, the level of the Minister of Defense - the purchase of furniture also corresponds to the consumer attitude towards the army and the navy
        1. +5
          17 June 2012 18: 43
          Vadivak
          Britain has long been famous for offshore. Apparently Taburetkin is openly trading with his own. It is a pity that again everything comes down to him without consequences ...
          1. +2
            18 June 2012 06: 34
            Taburetkin, after all, is also complementary, Lawrence on him
      3. +1
        17 June 2012 22: 06
        no Dear - 15 milliards are given to buy housing for the military who do not have their own - this has nothing to do with the salary.
      4. +2
        18 June 2012 00: 03
        This is not a salary, but rather compensation for unprovided housing. In addition, compensation to those who have not served in the MO for a long time.
    2. +10
      17 June 2012 10: 29
      at least you need to change the stool, and many others, just some kind of nonsense, that from the Ministry of Defense, that from the Ministry of Education ..... where the world is heading !?
      1. Crumbumbes
        +9
        17 June 2012 10: 58
        the trouble is that this stool will be replaced by the same stool or krovatkin ....
        1. Tyumen
          +13
          17 June 2012 11: 48
          Will he come? No, the Supreme will appoint him ...
      2. party3AH
        +9
        17 June 2012 11: 52
        Quote: Dart Weyder
        at least you need to change the stool, and many others, just some kind of nonsense, that from the Ministry of Defense, that from the Ministry of Education ..... where the world is heading !?

        I completely agree, mess. Hang, plant, deprive everything to the third knee, maybe not to think about the stomach, but about the good of the homeland.
        1. +3
          17 June 2012 17: 03
          As practice shows, hanging and planting does not help. It is necessary to re-educate people, and not to hang and plant. The church must be worth it!
          1. Dimasszzzz
            +2
            17 June 2012 23: 19
            Maks111, And whose practice does this show? We don’t hang or even plant, and for some reason nothing helps us. But the Chinese really help, the Italians once transplanted mafiosi and helped, Stalin also did pretty well. It does not help because they have not tried it.
          2. +2
            18 June 2012 01: 03
            All transplant this type: "in order for everyone to feel good in the world, all the good must unite and kill all the bad." And who will decide? Who is good and who is bad? Wrong whitewash with swamp?
      3. Tomato
        +5
        17 June 2012 16: 17
        at least you need to change the stool, and many others, just some kind of nonsense, that from the Ministry of Defense, that from the Ministry of Education ..... where the world is heading !?

        Mr. President, how much more will we endure this theater of absurdity?
      4. +3
        17 June 2012 18: 50
        Dart Weyder
        change? I think if you take a closer look at his biography, then fit in. And not just him ...
    3. +10
      17 June 2012 10: 33
      Quote: iulai
      when will this mess end?

      There are no such miracles in Russia!
    4. 0
      17 June 2012 10: 38
      In order for the mess to end in the end, everyone needs to come together to the polls and vote not for the pet of an individual audience, but really as it should. The miracle worker will not be able to manipulate the voice of millions. And we are sitting on kennels and quietly outraged in a handkerchief. In the so-called civilized countries, everyone is equal before the law. But we have equals, but there are slightly more equal ones. Guarantors of the constitution do not follow this constitution. He and she are seen only at the inauguration. Accordingly, the attitude of their people, and the bulk of the people towards them, respectively. Remember the shots of the presidency of the United States and France. On the streets of hundreds of thousands of residents. They know why they came out. And we have full streets of silence. Even not a single dog ran through. So where will there be more order? Obviously not with us! And the word mess is a brothel, by the way. That is life.
      1. Crumbumbes
        +4
        17 June 2012 11: 09
        well, the pet will leave, another party will come to power with another leader, to this feeding trough ... and it will be the same .. just people associated with the previous party and others for showing off in corruption, etc. they’ll accuse him of this and remove them from their posts
        why don’t they work on bills and make amendments to fill in the gaps with which they can easily conduct their scams? Yes, no one will simply chop the head of a hen laying golden eggs. (Even if amendments, etc. are considered, they simply will be marked by deputies by a majority of votes, and overwhelming).
      2. Tomato
        +2
        17 June 2012 16: 18
        everyone needs to come together to the polls and vote not for the pet of an individual audience, but really as needed.

        And how is it necessary?
      3. +3
        17 June 2012 17: 10
        Come and vote. And what about? There is no one to vote for something (((You give the Orthodox Tsar!
      4. stas64
        +1
        17 June 2012 23: 02
        Dear AleksUkr! "Everyone needs to come together to the polls and vote not for the favorite of a particular public, but really as needed." I went to the polls and I would like to vote for a worthy one, but for whom? Of all the available-horseradish radish is not sweeter, so he voted for Pope Ziu, the main thing is not for Pu.
      5. +3
        18 June 2012 01: 07
        Quote: AleksUkr
        In order for the mess to end in the end, everyone needs to come together to the polls and vote not for the pet of an individual audience, but really as it should.

        So they voted!
        What specific article did the guarantor violate?
    5. 755962
      +8
      17 June 2012 11: 01
      Quote: iulai
      the Americans returned from orbit a secret drone

      For some reason, it also hurt me!Secret X-37V drone landed independently after 15 months in orbit for the benefit of the United States
      The U.S. Air Force X-37V pilot spacecraft successfully landed autonomously after more than 15 months in low Earth orbit. This unmanned aerial vehicle landed on the basis of the US Air Force Vandenberg in California. Note that the message about the landing of the secret apparatus on the website of the US Air Force is illustrated by an old photograph of the X-37B, although it is said that the frame was shot on June 16, 2012.

      Lieutenant Colonel Tom McIntyre, head of the X-37B operation program in the Air Force, noted that after the shuttle fleet was decommissioned, the device being tested now brings "exceptional opportunities to the development of space technologies."
      http://www.newsru.com/world/16jun2012/x37.html
    6. +8
      17 June 2012 11: 55
      I could not resist.
      1. +1
        17 June 2012 19: 32
        DEMENTIY, MDA to the filly, yes, an elite aglitsky chocolate with a smell of Sentsa, this is it !!!!! igoo wink Yes laughing goooo !!!!!
    7. +10
      17 June 2012 12: 00
      Quote: iulai
      the Americans returned a secret drone from orbit, and Russia deals with the problems of Ksenia Sobchak and the furniture of Minister Taburetkin, when will this mess end?

      They are trying to destroy Russia from the inside, and we will break our heads about the American drone. We have people who have been thinking about this for a long time.
      1. Tomato
        +2
        17 June 2012 16: 21
        Russia is trying to ruin inside

        And first of all, MO Serdyukov!
    8. OilGas2011
      +5
      17 June 2012 12: 03
      Ksenia Sobchak is engaged in the problems of Ksenia Sobchak, not Russia.
      1. +2
        18 June 2012 01: 11
        Quote: OilGas2011
        Ksenia Sobchak is engaged in the problems of Ksenia Sobchak, not Russia.

        These are problems not only Sobchak. Walking Yashin or the current crane in her apartment is really Sobchak's personal problems, and the huge amounts in cash of one series, and even packaged in envelopes with interesting signatures, are already something more ...
    9. postman
      +3
      17 June 2012 14: 46
      Quote: iulai
      when will this mess end?

      tooting. instead of deed-verbiage
    10. +2
      17 June 2012 16: 44
      In 1917, part of our people began this mess.
      1. +2
        18 June 2012 06: 38
        after which she ended up abroad on an intelligent parade
    11. PatriotizTAT
      -2
      17 June 2012 16: 45
      When the power changes !!! stupidly and just everything !!!
    12. Neighbor
      +9
      17 June 2012 17: 27
      Quote: iulai
      the Americans returned from orbit a secret drone

      SECRET so much so that the whole planet knows about it !!! wassat wassat
      Well, right - top-secret !!! fool
      So secret - that you already write about him in every article !! wassat Strongly see he impressed you! I would advise you to blame for Amer - there your praises of the Amer technique - will fall to the court! am
      It would be necessary - this drone would be shot down for one or two. Moreover, its location in outer space is certainly not a secret for anyone, but for Russia. Yes
      1. 0
        20 June 2012 23: 03
        And what would they bring down? It's interesting to listen to your version.
    13. +1
      17 June 2012 18: 24
      It’s necessary to share the money, she didn’t share it and they will take everything away.
    14. Alex63
      0
      17 June 2012 23: 35
      You see, it’s already so embarrassing to read about it. One and the same thing. Same surnames. They would rot in the cells, but they live and prosper. Under our criminal and corrupt power, there can be no other. Tired of it. Down with Putin and Medvedev!
  2. +7
    17 June 2012 09: 33
    Great review good
    1. +1
      18 June 2012 02: 25
      Do you know that if you have one coffee table from furniture, then you are not a journalist, you are an alcoholic.


      And, if we have a furniture maker, who doesn’t succeed with furniture, what’s this called? .. stool? .. or ..?
      Although time will put everything in its place. Maybe he’s not such a stool, but Krovatkin, or promokashkin. laughing
  3. +10
    17 June 2012 09: 35
    The country rots in full swing both from the head and from all sides.
    1. Guran96
      +8
      17 June 2012 10: 22
      In addition to external enemies from behind a hillock of all stripes and types, and their homegrown motley sympathizers, there are also enemies of the people and the state in power, these are perhaps the most dangerous, since it is almost impossible to resist their "concern" for us. Well, corruption is generally a scourge of Russia.
      1. Tomato
        +5
        17 June 2012 16: 22
        . Well, corruption is generally a scourge of Russia

        This is the Washington Regional Committee program!
    2. petrakov vowa
      -8
      17 June 2012 10: 51
      And first of all, probably, you started to rot, since it’s very noticeable to you!
      1. Odious
        +2
        17 June 2012 15: 55
        petrakov vowa
        How can I support.
    3. Odious
      +9
      17 June 2012 12: 57
      Farvil
      Sorry for the only minus to you, but countries do not rot - people living in them rot. This applies to me, but also to you. Yours faithfully smile
      1. +7
        17 June 2012 18: 31
        That we always drunk, buzu and parasitism
        Duc, it's all insidious enemies,
        And we ourselves are radiant, naive and pure,
        Otherwise, I can’t even think.

        I am always amused by people who, having earned money not very honestly, drink, eat, but for one thing and express their displeasure about the thieving-corruption system of their country. "If you want to change the world - start with yourself!" If you cannot change yourself, then there is no need to whine. I agree with you Odious, people rot. And no political system will help rotten people. Only a despod mass will help.
  4. +8
    17 June 2012 09: 41
    Thank you brothers for the review. Plus plus plus.
    He laughed at some points from the heart.
    Very nice style.
    I propose to create a heading "About serious with humor"
  5. +19
    17 June 2012 09: 51
    Damn, I would give everything to revive Joseph Vissarionovich! How already this pooben got!
    1. 755962
      +18
      17 June 2012 11: 04
      Quote: nokki
      Damn, I would give everything to revive Joseph Vissarionovich!
      1. Morani
        -18
        17 June 2012 11: 54
        Right! We need a couple of Caucasians, so that the Russians brainwashed. As they say - the first time does not reach.
        1. Fox 070
          +8
          17 June 2012 12: 14
          Quote: Morani
          so that the Russians brainwashed

          Worry about yourself, otherwise Old Man ... hangs the pnikov!
        2. +11
          17 June 2012 12: 19
          Quote: Morani
          so that the Russians brainwashed

          Yes, we are already trying to brainwash everyone who is not lazy. Okay, even the majority of the generation "born in the USSR", that is. from 40 and older, are immune to such inclinations. But the youth is being washed in full swing, with all sorts of movie libels, advertisements and other drm.
        3. +8
          17 June 2012 13: 24
          Quote: Morani
          We need a couple of Caucasians, so that the Russians brainwashed

          I have already managed to thoroughly rinse some Belarusians. Well, Old Man next to him, he’ll figure it out ... to whom are Caucasians and to whom kitsch ...
        4. nbw
          nbw
          -7
          17 June 2012 14: 46
          This is the so-called. "Stockholm syndrome". When the victim begins to glorify the abuser.
        5. Isr
          Isr
          -7
          17 June 2012 22: 00
          It’s just that the former security officers gathered on this site, and the site itself is contained by real security officers.
    2. Crumbumbes
      +2
      17 June 2012 11: 13

      Damn, I would give everything to revive Joseph Vissarionovich! How already this pooben got!

      I completely agree!
      1. nbw
        nbw
        -8
        17 June 2012 14: 47
        You would be the first to go and go)))
        1. -5
          17 June 2012 17: 21
          I welcome you an adequate person! good How can one magnify the one who slapped his 28 MILLION OF HIS (and not strangely) NOT IN THOSE OF AN Innocent PEOPLE !!!
          1. +5
            17 June 2012 18: 21
            Maks111
            Why so little lied? Just a couple of orders.
            For reference, the number of death sentences and recorded executions without trial or investigation (and you. I suppose. You know. That the Soviet Union had established the most severe records - officials. about 1921 million for all articles of the Criminal Code, including the military tribunals and the shooting of deserters and looters and Nazi criminals. including the Germans. Official data in the public domain. Go look and do not lie .....
            1. postman
              +5
              17 June 2012 19: 35
              Quote: smile
              from 1921 to 1953, about 2,6 million for all articles of the Criminal Code,

              and 2 600 000 for the period is small? 1/2 Finland or more than 50% of St. Petersburg (today)
              = 81 / year. And the official data:

              FOR 1 PEOPLE NOT A YEAR AND A DAY !!!!
              and how many of them deserters, looters, criminals in 1937-1938?
              You are confusing the execution of deserters, marauders, rapists, by the decision of the tribunal, or on the spot, this is not a sentence and is not included in the statistics.

              How many were rotted in camps? Statistics were not kept!
              one can only judge the population in the USSR and its dynamics.

              Where are the shot GERMANS? What kind? Paulus? I didn’t shoot prisoners in the USSR
              statistics (for the USSR):
              year \ number of convicts
              1921 9701
              1922 1962
              1923 414
              1924 2550
              1925 2433
              1926 990
              1927 2363
              1928 869
              1929 2109
              1930 20201
              1931 10651
              1932 2728
              1933 2154
              1934 2056
              1935 1229
              1936 1118
              1937 353074
              1938 328618

              1939 2552
              1940 1649
              1941 8011
              1942 23278
              1943 3579
              1944 3029
              1945 4252
              1946 2896
              1947 1105
              1948 0
              1949 8
              1950 475
              1951 1609
              1952 1612
              1953 198
              ...
              1961 - 1880 people were sentenced in the RSFSR
              1962 g. - 2159
              1965 - 1970 - in the RSFSR annually 379-577 death sentences were handed down.
              1981 - 415 people were sentenced in the RSFSR.
              1985 - 770 people were sentenced in the USSR, 407 of them in the RSFSR.
              1986 - 533 people were sentenced in the USSR, of whom 225 were sentenced to the RSFSR. Of the death sentences passed in the USSR, 526 were carried out.
              1987 - 333 people were sentenced in the USSR, 120 of them in the RSFSR. 302 of those sentenced to the USSR for the specified year were executed.
              1988 - 272 people were sentenced in the USSR, 115 of them in the RSFSR. 229 of 272 sentences were executed.
              1989 - 267 death sentences were pronounced in the USSR, 100 of them in the RSFSR. 228 people out of 267 were executed.
              1990 - 447 people were sentenced in the USSR, 223 of them in the RSFSR.
              In 1991, 147 people were sentenced to the RSFSR.
              1. +4
                17 June 2012 20: 00
                postman
                Yes, it was two bloody years. Did I deny it? But I did not lie an order of magnitude, unlike you. At the same time, pay attention to that again. that these statistics include everything - besides the innocently convicted - this is the banditry of the twenties. and the Basmachis of the 20-30s, and the HANGED MILITARY CRIMINALS of all nationalities, etc. By the way, about 10 were sent to Lithuania before the war on suspicion of k / r activity. According to German data, before the war they lost all their agents - over 000. What else? No one justifies the brutal actions of the mustachioed uncle completely, but often tough measures were vital, and the convicts were not innocent sheep.
                For instance. without collectivization, no one. never from the bottom that could not free his hands to build a monstrous industrial potential. which exceeded the full power of the European industrial potential that worked for Hitler, which ultimately became the key to the survival of us as an ethnic group. Otherwise - the plan Ost - and forth - to fertilize the land in German farmsteads on our territory .... But we dodged the topic - why did you lie more than ten times about the crimes of the mustachioed uncle? And Where is the embarrassed admission of guilt and assurance that you will not lie again, for this is not good?
                1. postman
                  +3
                  17 June 2012 20: 53
                  smile
                  Quote: smile
                  But I did not lie an order of magnitude, unlike you.


                  WHERE DO I LY? YES an order of magnitude? You mixed me up with someone.

                  Quote: smile
                  Yes it was two bloody years
                  -Let's not forget about such objects as the Belomorkanal, the construction of the railway line in Kolyma.
                  There, stick the BONES into the ground with a shovel. AND THIS DID NOT GET INTO STATISTICS, how many "mustachioed uncle"

                  Quote: smile
                  but often tough measures were vital

                  I’m not sure that it was necessary to pour human blood, and my own.
                  Quote: smile
                  and the condemned did not appear to be innocent sheep.

                  Do not judge, let not you be judged.
                  Georgy Zhzhonov, Korolev, Tupolev are also "wine sheep"

                  Quote: smile
                  why did you lie more than ten times about the atrocities of the mustachioed uncle?

                  Damn, WELL AGAIN NOT TO ME. YOU ATTEMPT TO READ WHAT I WRITE AND WHO TO ANSWER !!!!!
                  Do not chase you for cheapness (for a plus sign)
                  write to me in response, and millions, the order of numbers from another person.
                  After all, the young generation is reading you, not understanding it, and it will bump me into liars, but I have children ....
                  1. +1
                    19 June 2012 01: 41
                    28 million ...... too lazy to talk about the rest ... lies for the time being \ doc ..... what to talk about ...... have a conscience ...... please .....
                2. postman
                  +2
                  17 June 2012 22: 40
                  I will add. Did not hold back
                  Quote: smile
                  but often tough measures were vital

                  Yes. Bloody Pol Pot (Salot Sar) exterminated about 1,5 million Cambodians. True, not shooting, but simply beaten with hoes.
                  But goals, goals were the most noble:
                  1. To stop the policy of ruining the peasantry - the foundations of a Cambodian society, to end corruption and usury;
                  2. Eliminate the eternal dependence of Kampuchea on foreign countries;
                  3. To restore order in a country deeper and deeper immersed in anarchy, for which, first of all, a strict political regime must be established.

                  of course the "mustachioed man" cannot be compared ...
                  2,6 million (take your number, excluding muzzled and feral in the camps) out of 156 million (less than 1,7%), can not be compared with 1,5 million out of 13 (more than 10%)

                  And according to the daily extermination rate: 1000 people per day (mustachioed uncle), Angka Loeu is ahead of: 1147 corpses per day. The truth is not much.
        2. +1
          17 June 2012 21: 23
          nbw, Honor mail in the fight against opponents of communism and socialism and all kinds of fascists
          1. nbw
            nbw
            +1
            18 June 2012 19: 18
            > nbw, Honor

            I did not quite understand your position :-) I am rather a monarchist; Communists (historical, our bottling), Nazis and pro-American liberals are equally unpleasant to me. I apologize if I inadvertently offended.

            PS I suddenly found that the site engine eats the word pindos (in Cyrillic) belay
    3. nbw
      nbw
      -5
      17 June 2012 14: 44
      The number of pluses in support of the post in which the murderer of the Russian people is glorified is somewhat surprising. Are you crazy? :-)
      1. postman
        -4
        17 June 2012 15: 06
        Quote: nbw
        Number of pluses

        Do not pay attention. This is normal here. Those who would like to minus: either they are afraid or consider it useless. The trend is this ...
        It is unlikely that anyone (of them) was in the ELEPHANT (memorial of course)
        Recall, for example, the Pulkovo affair: sabotaging the observation of solar eclipses. The same as the "zombie"
        Quote: nbw
        are you crazy? :-)
        1. nbw
          nbw
          -8
          17 June 2012 15: 15
          > is a normal phenomenon here.

          Unfortunately yes. They must be crushed. This mustachioed Georgian completely destroyed the Russian officers, ditched a myriad of Russian (Russian) citizens, with him we barely, with monstrous losses, defeated the weak Hitler on his cardboard tanks (at the beginning of the war they were just like that, unlike our iron hordes) ... And now, on one of the main patriotic resources of Russia, praises are sung to this baboon. Some disgrace.
          1. postman
            -1
            17 June 2012 16: 53
            Quote: nbw
            nbw

            NOT ONLY RUSSIAN.
            Our people simply forgot or had little contact with grandparents and (great b, d)
            (For screaming, I’ll write right away: they were neither my Trotskyites, nor the Mensheviks, nor aristocrats, nor fists, from a plow or a machine). Brrrr As I recall the stories, you will not sleep.
            And in 1949 - a gift to Stalin: the operation of the NKVD-MGB for the DEPORTATION of invalids of the Second World War ("amputees", "samovars") who have no relatives to Severnaya Ladoga, Valaam.
            SO THE MOTHERLAND AND THE LEADER PAYED TO THEIR WINNERS
            But the view of the cities "stopped spoiling"
            “Son, maybe you would ask someone to finish you off?”
            He says: “Mother, how much have I already asked? No one takes such a sin upon himself. ”

            Quote: nbw
            weak Hitler
            - I do not agree with you.
            He was never weak. The weak will not conquer all of Europe.
            But Yalmar Shakht is generally worthy of the Nobel Prize in economics.

            And the fact that the balance of forces (armament, strength) at the start was far from in Germany’s favor is 100% true.
            Screamers (as well as today's) do you remember? "If there is war tomorrow, we'll be in Berlin for a week"
          2. +7
            17 June 2012 18: 30
            nbw
            ......... I cannot write in letters my monstrous laughter after reading the phrase "weak Hitler" ..... but why the unfortunate dying Wehrmacht, without a single ally, trampled on all the most modern and powerful European armies, while losing fewer people, than a month of fighting from December 1, 1941 to January 1, 1942? Chegozh Wehrmacht having twenty-fold superiority in manpower over ours. trapped in Stalingrad by troops, in September - October 1942 paid for the capture of one Stalingradskaya Street with losses exceeding the losses in the capture of an average European country and the complete defeat of its army? Go on. gentlemen clowns to some other site and talk there about the injustice of being .... you will be more comfortable there ... and warmer ..... like such worms. that they live in warm ... brown such ... no one will crush you there ...
            1. +1
              18 June 2012 01: 19
              smile,
              In fact, if the Nazis captured France in 28 days (if not confusing), then in Stalingrad during this time they only crossed from one side of the street to the other.
              1. postman
                0
                18 June 2012 01: 45
                Quote: kos
                In-in
                Well, do not write nonsense. Remind me for how long the Germans were in Moscow? and how much is km? at least look at the map.
                and pay attention to the density of roads in France and the USSR. as well as the railway track.
                1. Yarbay
                  0
                  18 June 2012 01: 53
                  Vasily learn to carefully read what you comment !!
                  Konstantin wrote about the battles in STALINGRAD !!
                  1. postman
                    0
                    18 June 2012 11: 40
                    I read it very carefully (already with nb).
                    "In-in, if France was captured by the Nazis in 28 days (if not confused), then in Stalingrad during this time ..."

                    France captured for X

                    in Stalingrad for this period X from the street to the street.
                    And I recalled with what speed they reached MOSCOW, they "captured" France for 28 days - they are resting.
                    And this under the conditions of (our) roads and a different gauge railway.
                    COMPARE BATTLES В STALINGRADE (only) - with battles for France (All) = stupid and incorrect
                    1. Yarbay
                      +2
                      18 June 2012 12: 12
                      ** COMPARE BATTLES IN STALINGRAD (only) - with battles for France (All) = stupid and incorrect ** - this is one !! Perhaps you are right about this, but you initially answered by reading inattentively !!
                      And in the end, and this is his OPINION !!
                      1. postman
                        -2
                        18 June 2012 17: 23
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        initially responded by reading inattentively !!

                        What SPECIFICALLY did I read ATTENTIVELY? What. I have a neighbor, doctor of linguistic sciences. An expert of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation, she speaks in all courts of the North-West.
                        I can give him for examination = 12000r. Hu pay?
                        Although does it make sense? I READ DOCUMENTED to read documents (if not on a mobile phone only, there you will figure figs)

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        And in the end, and this is his OPINION !!

                        and what did I say the opposite?
                        I EXPRESSED MY OPINION. on him.
                        He is mine, I am mine. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ???
                        It was impossible?
                        I don’t know about him, but since childhood I had a book (almanac) - "The Book of Future Commanders", I read it from the age of 8 (since 1973), published by the USSR. Everything is described there and speed and expensive, and Stalingrad and France.
                        And it starts with the Chinese wars ...
              2. nbw
                nbw
                0
                18 June 2012 19: 24
                > In-in, if the Nazis captured France in 28 days

                Do not tell my slippers, I beg you. Is the phrase "strange war" familiar? During World War II, Hitler never encountered more or less serious resistance before the USSR. These "great European armies" were bullshit, teddy bears.

                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Странная_война - просвещайтесь winked
            2. nbw
              nbw
              +1
              18 June 2012 20: 04
              > I can't write in letters my monstrous laughter after reading the phrase "feeble Hitler" ..... and why the unfortunate dying Wehrmacht, without a single ally, trampled all the most modern and powerful European armies

              > the most modern and powerful European armies

              Ahtung! Ahtung! Clowns are coming! So, "the most modern and powerful" ...

              > In October 1938, as a result of the Munich Agreement, Germany annexes the Sudetenland that belonged to Czechoslovakia. <...> On March 15, 1939, Germany, in violation of the agreement, occupies the Czech Republic.

              OHSHI ~, there’s not even an armed capture, here annexation...

              > September 1, 1939 German and Slovak troops invade Poland

              Well, some kind of tryndets. These psheki generally fought with someone more serious than Bogdan Khmelnitsky? "The worst army ..."

              > On September 7, German troops under the command of Heinz Guderian begin an attack on the Polish defensive line near Wizna. 720 Polish soldiers and officers held back the 10-strong enemy group until September XNUMX.

              From here we can see how powerful the German army was. Just an "iron horde", not otherwise. And then in the same spirit ... The fuss of teddy bears under the blanket ...

              > April 9, 1940 Germany invades Denmark and Norway.

              Denmark - yes ... Do you even find it on the map of Europe offhand? The most powerful army, how can ..

              > May 10, 1940 Germany invades Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg with 135 divisions.

              No comments. 135 divisions! These countries, for reference, are all inferior in area to the Nizhny Novgorod region. Surely they possessed great armies laughing

              And then begins

              http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Странная_война - почитай, полегчает.

              And here the pasta farmers helped the sausages, but for some reason they didn’t achieve anything, especially ...

              Well, like this? Will we teach history? Or will we mindlessly repeat the words about "the most modern and powerful"?
          3. 0
            17 June 2012 19: 37
            nbw, yeah !!! another follower of rezun and latinina belay laughing you got into the snag !!!!! Yes Would you go to peck chocolate with a senz (you have the right place there) !!! Yes
            1. postman
              -1
              18 June 2012 01: 26
              Quote: datur
              well !!! another follower

              I will stand up for nbm.
              And what actually happened?
              person (citizen of Russia, I hope) expressed his opinion.
              Constitution of the Russian Federation (basic law, if you do not know) Article 29:
              OH (nbm) may not know who they are
              Quote: datur
              rezuna and latinina
              .
              And you immediately
              Quote: datur
              Would you go chocolate with a senz to peck
              .
              For example, I don’t know "hu from" Latin (rezuna I know, a traitor deserter)
              WHAT tormented nostalgia? Crowd one dissent, and can kick 10 by 1 (like our Poles in Warsaw)

              Would you go to North Korea yourself? Chewing bark, everything is simple there: there is a leader, glory from morning to evening.
              The internet is really very limited
              1. Yarbay
                +1
                18 June 2012 01: 51
                Basil!
                But did someone refuse the NBM to express thoughts!
                I personally also think his thoughts are ridiculous and justifying Hitler’s aggression against the USSR and, in principle, the whole world!
                1. postman
                  +1
                  18 June 2012 11: 36
                  Well he (nbm) expressed his point of view. And his "hay to peck."
                  This is an argument. It would be possible to stick on a turnip got the same ...
                  That's what I mean.
                  Incidentally, he didn’t EVER justify Hitler’s aggression against the USSR !!!!
                  There was no such thing. Hitler's weakness and "cardboard" tanks, yes.
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    18 June 2012 12: 10
                    Basil Are you kidding ??
                    You wrote before that they refused to express his opinion and turned an example of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation!
                    Also in his style, his opponents expressed a different opinion from his opinion!
                    About a stick in a turnip is your fabrication!
                    And * hay peck * ???
                    It justified Hitler’s aggression !!
                    What does Hitler's weakness mean ???
                    How to capture half the world ??? with cardboard tanks ??
                    1. postman
                      0
                      18 June 2012 17: 40
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      You wrote before that they refused to express his opinion and turned an example of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation!


                      I'm not joking, so you seem NOT to READ!
                      which UK? - CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!!! (the basic Law!)
                      http://www.constitution.ru/10003000/10003000-4.htm
                      What does the UK have to do with it?
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      About a stick in a turnip is your fabrication!

                      And I didn’t deny it, WRITTEN: If I could have gotten the same thing with a stick on the turnips ... IT IS LIKE he (nbm) - FOR THAT DARE (!) To express an opinion different from "generally accepted 2 on the site.
                      What is the difficulty? This was my ASSUMPTION that for such a statement nbw, if datur HAS the opportunity, would have received nbw with a stick in turnips. THAT'S ALL.
                      YOU AS Oddly OTHER allow you to make assumptions and have opinions, speak out, but to me WHY NO

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      And * hay peck * ???
                      , again, you DO NOT READ, about hay this is not me, this:
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Would you go to peck chocolate with a senz (you have the right place there) !!!

                      which I was slightly "outraged"

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      It justified Hitler’s aggression !!

                      Who? nbw ??? Well this is nonsense in vegetable oil, nbw wrote:

                      Quote: nbw
                      with him, we barely, with monstrous losses, defeated the weak Hitler on his cardboard tanks

                      WELL WHERE,here in THIS Phrase JUSTIFICATION Hitler's aggression?
                      Maybe I'm blind, or in 45 years I have not learned Russian.
                      enlighten ... kindly.
                      That's for sure (my opinion) - you write, write, and do not even read to whom you answer and what!

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      What does Hitler's weakness mean ???

                      This is generally not for me. I DIDN'T WRITE THIS, I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS, as nbw reported /
                      / note: nbw - let's better join the discussion, otherwise I have the impression that I’m communicating with a damaged answering machine, and not in my opinion ... it's a joke. belay
                      1. nbw
                        nbw
                        +1
                        18 June 2012 19: 40
                        And why connect to it - either schoolchildren who last saw the map of the Northern Hemisphere in the year before last write to Dzhugashvili in defense, ran into the classroom between the piston in the school toilet and a smoke break there, or punched masochists missing the collar. There are, of course, ideological ones - but there are few of them, and ideological one stems from the same thing - from insufficient and one-sided awareness.
                      2. Yarbay
                        +2
                        19 June 2012 00: 12
                        Vasily where I wrote which CC ???? show !!
                        Where did I write about chocolat with senza ??
                        You have the meanness and arrogance to quote not my words using my nickname !!
                        It's mean and dishonest !!
                        and if you write an answer to something, give the full text!
                        *** with him, we barely, with monstrous losses, defeated the weak Hitler on his cardboard tanks (at the beginning of the war they were just like that, unlike our iron hordes) ... ******
                        You will wear glasses or so you will see the justification of Nazi aggression !!
                        You didn’t read the almanac well !!
                        If Hitler had cardboard tanks, why did he go where he didn’t need to ??
                        And let you be ashamed for quoting using my nickname is not my words !!
                        I repeat this on your part dishonestly and meanly !!
                      3. postman
                        +1
                        19 June 2012 18: 52
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Yarbay (5) AZ Today, 00:12 ↑

                        Alibek, I'm honestly tired of the same thing. Let's get a little graphic in color
                        1.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        where I wrote which CC ???? show !!

                        Here, highlighted"red"
                        2.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You have the meanness and arrogance to quote not my words using my nickname !!

                        Your nickname, highlighted "blue"
                        3.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        It's mean and dishonest !!
                        and if you write an answer to something, give the full text!

                        NEVER did vile and not decent. All text in the screen.

                        4. You asked:
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        And * hay peck * ???

                        I answered (already a different picture) - highlighted "green". You asked, I answered BUT UNSUCCESSFULLY SKEOPED, quote, didn’t call, this is how the respondent works, it was a thought datur I EVEN DIDN'T KNOW that inserting a quote from it (datur) will automatically turn you out. And did not look.

                        It just so happened, unintentionally, but wanted to insert an ITS (datur) quote
                        Now transmitted.
                        Quote: datur
                        would you go to peck chocolate with a senz (you have a place there)!!!

                        My apologies for this., well, you me, and so in the heat of the moment and "vile and dishonorable." there was no intent. Now I'll try to change it through admins

                        5.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        If Hitler had cardboard tanks, why did he go where he didn’t need to ??

                        Repeat, I did not say this, did not affirm, and against it, about which I wrote.
                        It is pointless to carry ALL correspondence.

                        highlighted in "yellow"


                        6.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        And let you be ashamed for quoting using my nickname is not my words !!

                        For my mistake (ignorance of the principle of work) I am ashamed. how it happened, I explained in paragraph 4.
                        TRY YOURSELF
                        ANSWER my letter, "quote" my phrase and then quote someone else's GET THE SAME

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        not my words using my nickname !!

                        Fixed:

                        Report:
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                        Quote: Yarbay
                        not my words using my nickname !!

                        Fixed:

                        Report:
                        http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012-06/1340117187_snimok-informaciya.jpg

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        not my words using my nickname !!

                        Sent a fix

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        not my words using my nickname !!

                        1. sent:
                      4. postman
                        +1
                        19 June 2012 19: 22
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        not my words using my nickname !!

                        1. sent:

                        2. Received a report:
                      5. Yarbay
                        +2
                        19 June 2012 20: 40
                        Dear Vasily, for the second time discussing with you, I understand that you are inattentively reading ??
                        I don’t know how to highlight with flowers and I don’t know how much !!
                        Generally your apology is accepted !!
                        Be healthy, but honestly, I still do not understand why you highlighted yellow, why red !!
                        But it’s not important anymore! Green has nothing to do with me at all!
                        and when I accused the NBM of justifying Hitler’s aggression, I quoted his words and not yours!
                        Understand from the words of the NBM that Hitler with cardboard tanks was subjected to aggression by the iron hordes of the USSR !! For this, you do not have to write something verbatim, the quote you quoted is enough!
                        with respect
                      6. postman
                        +1
                        19 June 2012 21: 58
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        why you highlighted yellow

                        there I did not agree with the topic of Hitler, and there was no need to reproach me. I wrote from the very beginning- Not mine, I do not agree.
                        (be it not okay this hitler)

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Green has nothing to do with me at all!

                        I showed WHOSE QUOTE about 2sense "I was trying to bring, and what happened (got attached) is a kvam-defect in the software of the site, well, or my not attentiveness

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        that Hitler with cardboard tanks was aggressed by the iron hordes of the USSR

                        Well, I already wrote my opinion, I disagree with either the cardboard or the aggression of the USSR against Hitler.
                      7. Yarbay
                        +2
                        20 June 2012 00: 12
                        Dear Vasily !!
                        I think the incident is over !!
                        Sorry if I was harsh and for those words in your address that you did not deserve !!
                        I sincerely wish you all the best !! +
                        with respect
                      8. postman
                        +1
                        20 June 2012 01: 30
                        Alibek, thanks.
                        everything is fine, anything happens.
                        Threat.
                        "HAPPINESS! EVERYONE! GIFT! AND LET NOBODY LEAVE OFFENSED !!!"
                        The Strugatsky brothers "Roadside Picnic"
                    2. nbw
                      nbw
                      0
                      18 June 2012 19: 32
                      > How half the world captured ??? with cardboard tanks ??

                      Some half of the world? Rickety France? And then half, the link to the "strange war" was given above, it's just fumbling in the sandbox wassat Already pro-German Austria? Voluntarily joining Italy? Little weak Eastern Slavic half-principalities? What half the world are you talking about ?? When did you last see a geographical map, admit it?
            2. nbw
              nbw
              +1
              18 June 2012 19: 28
              > nbw, hmm !!! another follower of Rezun and Latin

              I didn’t quite understand that you advised me to bite there, but I guess that this is something from your diet. Let Rezun (who Latynina is - I don’t know, confess) is in fact a traitor to the Motherland - but the fact that in his reasoning there is a rational kernel is indisputable! (He who does not believe, like the Jewish-biblical Thomas, can follow links to documents of the Soviet era, of which there are plenty of [references] in Rezun’s writings).
              1. 0
                20 June 2012 14: 17
                Oops, again ... belay

                Okay ... drove ... Now, you say
                Quote: nbw
                can follow links to documents of the Soviet era, of which there are plenty of [links] in Rezun’s writings).

                And you know what he finds there?
                Phrases taken out of context and quotes with a changed word order, and sometimes rare nonsense in general by itself or an extremely unreliable source in particular.
                So what could be
                Quote: nbw
                rational grain
                ?
                They themselves tried to follow the links, if you advise others, eh? wink
        2. Isr
          Isr
          -1
          17 June 2012 22: 03
          You're right. On this site, the more cons, the more adequate the comments, and vice versa.
          1. nbw
            nbw
            +3
            18 June 2012 21: 55
            > the more cons, the more adequate the comment

            > Rating: -7702

            Well, before you, Admiral, I still have to drown and drown laughing
        3. nbw
          nbw
          +3
          18 June 2012 22: 08
          > "Pulkovo deed"

          That's what, and Pulkovo Yezhov, with * ke, I will not forgive! Destroyed half of the Soviet astronomers, pest! And then, according to a good tradition, geneticists, cybernetics, and physicists were shot / imprisoned ... And now these crazy-witted nonsense (diagnosis) accuse Putin of the decline of Russian science laughing There would be no turning back half a century, and the causes of the observed consequences, you see, will be drawn more clearly.
      2. -3
        17 June 2012 17: 22
        No, they did not go crazy, they just had a good brainwash. That's all....
    4. -3
      17 June 2012 17: 16
      Here he would slap you first
    5. +1
      17 June 2012 21: 12
      nokki (1)! I agree! Even realizing that they can easily write me down as enemies of the people. But you do not agree on the main thing: what ideology to choose at the same time? Pinochet to me and ... do not put on. I need And In Stalin in all its originality, including the socialist socialized.
      1. nbw
        nbw
        +2
        18 June 2012 19: 35
        > I need AND IN Stalin in all its originality

        You’ll die in uranium mines not for dog’s hell - remember these words of yours. But it will be too late. I even put you a plus - for future martyrdom. These are the naive-ideological ones who die first.
  6. Horde
    +5
    17 June 2012 09: 57
    Such envelopes were seized by operatives after a search of Ksenia Anatolyevna’s apartment.


    it is not clear from the article what is this opera for the dog? Looking for documents from the Amer embassy?
    1. Svistoplyaskov
      +15
      17 June 2012 10: 32
      Probably they thought that she was holding the "swamp common fund"! laughing
      1. Fox 070
        +9
        17 June 2012 10: 38
        Quote: Whistling
        Probably they thought that she was holding the "swamp common fund"!

        By the way, not so funny version good After all, the money came from somewhere? I think it has a right to exist !!! "+"
        1. +3
          17 June 2012 13: 19
          Envelopes are bribes.
          Either took, or gave.
          The scale is impressive ... a whole underground bank.
          Maybe this is not a "swamp common fund" at all - but something connected with corruption on TV.
          In the same "house2" to get a job - you have to give up.
          Somewhere else in a warm place - again a bribe.
        2. +15
          17 June 2012 13: 31
          Quote: Fox 070
          After all, the money came from somewhere?

          Colleague, you are an adult fellow Do you really know where the money comes from prostitutes feel , they are also political, but this does not change the essence. Ksenia we have two in one ... laughing
          1. +3
            17 June 2012 17: 32
            Quote: Tersky
            Colleague, you are an adult, do you really know where the money comes from prostitutes

            Even if we assume that these are fees for her so-called "creative activity" in the show business, it is still a tax evasion! Article 198 or 199 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
            1. +8
              17 June 2012 17: 48
              Quote: Hairy Siberian
              Even if we assume that these are fees for her so-called "creative activity" in the show business, it is still a tax evasion!

              Well, yes, well, yes, the aphorism of the Emperor Vespasian, "Money does not smell," is still alive, only these, alas, smell ... and amber from them as from a very famous sum of 30 pieces of silver. Ksyusha is not supposed to be dealt with by the fiscal, but the office is much more serious and specific. Well, a colleague agrees with taxes, everyone is obliged to pay them from all types of income.
              1. +2
                17 June 2012 18: 13
                Quote: Tersky
                Well, a colleague agrees with taxes, everyone is obligated to pay them with all types of income.

                I completely agree with you because the tax is only 13%!
                So no, people are paying somewhere, to someone, some money, and then they are sitting on sugans, and then they are still rattling on some counts! For me it’s easier to pay and live in peace!
          2. +1
            17 June 2012 22: 08
            Dear Tersky, that's it!
            Already slipped her excuses: "part of it was accepted as a gift, part was borrowed" smile
            What is it called - everyone knows! wassat
        3. wax
          +7
          17 June 2012 13: 42
          1. They don’t keep their money in such amounts in envelopes, and if they do, then so that the sums end in zeros and are equal, so as not to strain the brains, which Sobchak has not so much, taking into account their amount without a calculator.
          2. In Russia, they do not pay money in the currency of foreign governments, which means she should have changed it in banks, but hardly what she will name in which.
          3. In the tax return, for sure, there is no information about these incomes.
          So - they’ve deprived the common fund. Let them send more.
        4. broker
          +2
          17 June 2012 16: 12
          I think they were preparing for bribes (or as they say now a package of financial assistance)
          1. 0
            17 June 2012 22: 11
            (or as the financial aid package now says) - nope, McFaul now says "humanitarian" laughing request bully
        5. 755962
          +1
          17 June 2012 21: 20
          Quote: Fox 070
          After all, the money came from somewhere?

          Investigators know that the seized money does not belong to Ksenia Sobchak. Ilya Yashin is related to this money. Nobody is stupid that money is more convenient to store in 100 envelopes, and not in five envelopes, for example, or than everything in one heap, will not believe. However, even knowing that the money was intended for 100 people without sufficient evidence, it is impossible to blame anyone for anything. Therefore, the evidence base is most likely being collected now. I think that Ksenia’s money will not be returned. It is possible that they will soon announce that I. Yashin received money for the revolution, for example from the State Department, from the US administration through the American ambassador, which will cause great damage to the protest movement.
      2. +9
        17 June 2012 16: 49

        CITIZENS KEEP MONEY IN SAVINGS, NOT IN ENVELOPES.
  7. 911811711
    +16
    17 June 2012 09: 57
    Thanks to Putin for such "defense ministers"
    1. prophetic
      +7
      17 June 2012 14: 58
      and for the Minister of Education. It is frightening to stand for the future of children
  8. Fear
    +8
    17 June 2012 10: 00
    Considering that a square meter of living space in new buildings in the central part of Russia costs about 32000 rubles
    CSOs and in Blagoveshchensk 60 rubles per sq. M.
    1. broker
      +1
      17 June 2012 16: 14
      Likely to be a little expensive for the Chinese
  9. +13
    17 June 2012 10: 03
    A very decent share of the text in today's review is devoted to our MO. The facts have a very unpleasant aftertaste and the basis for them has not appeared today. Of course - bastardism and corruption "ears" are clearly visible, but it would be necessary to delve into the primary sources of this news. yet another "clue" about corruption in the higher spheres often comes from openly anti-Russian well-wishers.
    I really hope that the facts of "oiling" the supervisors instead of real concern for their welfare will not go unnoticed by those who are supposed to understand the sanity of those in charge due to their duties. But it would not hurt to ask the zashtatniks themselves what is preferable for them. Often we do good to people without asking if they need SUCH good? And it is possible that many of them are quite satisfied with this alignment.
    I have no particular desire to sneer at the desire of operas in search of McFall's prints on banknotes for Ksyusha. It is high time to put this presumptuous horse in a stall. What did the "diva" lack? fame, demand or dough? She had everything, but, apparently, she also wanted the glory of a political herald. True, she did not manage to "talk" - they booed and called the obscene word "Shl..ha", but she is a fighting lady. I didn’t give up and now it’s time to hit them.
    And about McFaul, many have already realized that this is our man! He will lay out what no resident of foreign intelligence will say. So God grant him health and fruitful work on the formation of the image of the states in our country.
    1. party3AH
      +7
      17 June 2012 12: 03
      Quote: esaul
      A very decent share of the text in today's review is devoted to our MO. The facts have a very unpleasant aftertaste and the basis for them has not appeared today. Of course - bastardism and corruption "ears" are clearly visible, but it would be necessary to delve into the primary sources of this news. yet another "clue" about corruption in the higher spheres often comes from openly anti-Russian well-wishers.

      From yesterday's comments about the western dragon:Of course, imported furniture does not present a danger to the combat stability of ships: it is easy to check for lack of bookmarks, a special repair base is not required for it. But the interesting thing is that as a partner, a company is selected that goes bankrupt and the money disappears. Until they’re gone - they’ll disappear if you don’t start seriously ... Does this not remind you of anything? This is the standard scheme of embezzlement of public funds, tested back in the 90s and working in our time! One to one, except that in this case the fraud is planned with the participation of a foreign company. And I think that, of course, there is something to work on for both the Prosecutor General’s Office and the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office. Personally, I see signs of fraud in this with the aim of stealing significant funds from the military budget by people from the Serdyukov team.
      here and not to refute, indeed the schemes of the 90s, again attracted the London company with one of the "directors" by the name of Ivanov, and many "refugees" Aligarhs living in LаNdone in the know of these schemes .... Well, really before that * ate gentlemen ministers that so brazenly piss into the eyes ???
      1. +4
        17 June 2012 18: 57
        Quote: party3AH
        Well, really, oh, oh * gentlemen, the ministers ate that so brazenly piss into the eyes ???

        Anton, welcome. Here I am about that - the fear that we lost some time ago, in my opinion, has appeared in the minds of those who are not clean on their hands because of cutting the state budget. Therefore, the new "fried facts" are now perceived by me rather critically. It cannot be that theft proceeds at the same pace and on the same scale as in the ever-memorable 90s and early 2000s. A punishing sword appeared and, accordingly, the fear of responsibility for what was done ... Piss with impunity - time has passed. It's time to keep the answer for what was done.
    2. FiremanRS
      -4
      17 June 2012 12: 30
      The article is, as always, good for its humorous irony. However, there are, I think, other topics for such irony, instead of the annoying McFaul. Although the phrase smiled very much - The second lesson is geo-physical culture-biology. Children jump over a goat, and in flight they work with contour maps ...))))) Where in biology are contour maps? I was apparently quite a two-wheeler)))). So the author has a plus for humor, but a minus for the review.
      1. +3
        17 June 2012 12: 50
        We do not put a minus for observation and attentiveness))! "Geo" in the humorous name of the subject is contour maps. Geography. "Goat" is both physical education and biology at the same time. Elementary a firefighter! bully
        1. +9
          17 June 2012 12: 59
          Alexander, thank you separately for deciphering the author's thoughts wink
          1. +2
            17 June 2012 18: 40
            We’ll choose Ksenia Obshchak as prime minister under President Udaltsov, only in the state apartments of Dom-2 let them rule (instead of the Kremlin)!
            Thanks for the humor!
        2. FiremanRS
          +4
          17 June 2012 16: 48
          Fireman, not a fireman ......
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. +7
        17 June 2012 12: 58
        Here are the ones on! Denis! I did not think that you would have to explain separately that the goat is called not only a sports equipment, but also an ungulate. M-yes-a-a-a ... And thanks for the pros and cons, but another time it would be better to leave something alone ...
        1. FiremanRS
          0
          17 June 2012 16: 53
          So you try to explain to me what is common and what is the difference between a sports apparatus and this animal. The phrase where I talk about the pros and cons does not mean that I put them in the rating of the article .... For me, one equalized the other.
          1. +1
            17 June 2012 17: 23
            Denis, honestly I don’t understand, are you kidding or seriously? .. If you haven’t been explained to me what is the difference between a goat with horns and a goat for jumping in the gym, then probably in your school you still need to change something ...
            1. FiremanRS
              0
              18 June 2012 13: 16
              With you, dear, you can’t be serious. You take it all too literally))))
              1. 0
                18 June 2012 16: 21
                With you, apparently, too wink
    3. +5
      17 June 2012 13: 57
      Quote: esaul
      So God grant him health and fruitful work on the formation of the image of the states in our country.

      Valera, I'm sorry, but I decided to plagiarize feel , I want to wish all that you said in the highlighted quote in a good sense and in the plural to the remarkable author’s tandem - Alexey Volodin, Oleg Chuvakin. Good luck guys good !!!!
    4. Tomato
      +6
      17 June 2012 16: 34
      The facts have a very unpleasant aftertaste and the basis for them has not appeared today. Of course - scum and corruption "ears" are clearly visible, but it would be necessary to delve into the primary sources of this news. yet another "clue" about corruption in the higher spheres often comes from openly anti-Russian well-wishers.

      Still believe in the infallibility of Serdyukov?
      1. party3AH
        +2
        18 June 2012 07: 49
        Quote: Tomat
        Still believe in the infallibility of Serdyukov?

        To the bastard's count!
    5. postman
      +2
      17 June 2012 17: 34
      Quote: esaul
      What did the "diva" lack?

      House -2 she outgrew. Ambition.
      Continuity of generations, the same hotz steer.
      How banal-household I can assume: there is a promising bridegroom, but with a dowry from house2 you won’t roll up to him.
      You need to prove yourself in a common field
      1. +3
        17 June 2012 19: 07
        postman,
        Good evening, Vasily. I also tend to think that the reason for everything is ambition. About a promising groom - it's unlikely. Why would a normal guy want to create a "social unit" a horse in a skirt? And even with the ambitions of a stud stallion!
  10. +8
    17 June 2012 10: 03
    The purchase of furniture for the fleet has already been discussed on this site not very long ago. Many were outraged. Now you can see it for good reason. The state needs healthy and obedient citizens, so physical education is present as a must-have item. Read-write taught what else they need. And an uneducated person is easier to manage the state. Therefore, we laugh with the Americans of their stupidity and ignorance of their president of geography. But they sincerely love their country, they believe that they won the Second World War, and there is no one cooler than an American in the world.
    1. +2
      17 June 2012 12: 45
      Sogsen.Vot only something for me in 30 years to be a grandfather among SUCH adults, the middle of life, "graduates" is not desired. Nikak. A crowd of troglodytes with a belly and a face of "fast food" and a belief in the correctness of something that does not exist in nature. What education will give us? ..... only time will tell ...
  11. Hey
    +5
    17 June 2012 10: 25
    How did the bureaucrats become embarrassed that they didn’t clean the safe at Sobchak before the investigative committee?
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +7
      17 June 2012 10: 43
      Quote: MUD
      did not clean the safe at Sobchak?


      Kaka would say in the early 90's ... forgot who her roof is ??? +! wassat
    2. broker
      +1
      17 June 2012 16: 18
      Just decided to work in the form)))
    3. +1
      17 June 2012 21: 47
      Hey
      Now, such a tip will be in all notebooks of the bureaucrats; and house number, and apartment number, and even the internal plan. The SK is good at working as a gunner. Probably from now on Bastrykin is the main stick out on the corner.
  12. Fox 070
    +15
    17 June 2012 10: 29
    I thought Fursenko got rid of one, so he didn’t come better in his place! And this debil Taburetkin ... His furniture is not enough, so he set to English! Do fools in the government have a nest or something? am
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +13
      17 June 2012 10: 42
      Quote: Fox 070
      so in his place no better came! And this debil Taburetkin.


      Felix, +! Definitely. that's just all. Dear forum users, somehow "gently bypass" where ... these Fursenki and their successors, Taburetkins, Sobchachki., her mother, a senator from a small Nanai district, about which, in my opinion, in general did not hear, eh ????

      And what are they ... and all this gop company "gets up" ..... nana-tanks and paws \ mpochki, well, I keep quiet about Skolkovo ..... ????

      Aw, guys, wake up !!!! bully
      1. Volkhov
        +1
        17 June 2012 11: 11
        Quote: veteran.air force
        Aw, guys, wake up !!!!


        If they give the Kuril Islands this summer, enough to wake up, or as always?
        1. broker
          +1
          17 June 2012 16: 19
          In my opinion, Russia will wake up after Siberia
          1. +1
            17 June 2012 19: 53
            broker,
            Volkhov, - and why are you taking it so finely - come on already - Russia within the MKAD !!!!!! wink Yes laughing
        2. +5
          17 June 2012 19: 35
          Quote: Volkhov
          If they give the Kuril Islands this summer, enough to wake up, or as always?

          "... Ostap suffered ..."
      2. Fox 070
        +7
        17 June 2012 11: 47
        Quote: veteran.air force
        . dear forum users, as it is "gently bypass"

        Sergey, in my opinion everyone (including myself) understands perfectly well where the legs grow from this pack, they just don’t see an alternative to the current president. Well, there’s no one to replace it !!!
      3. +2
        17 June 2012 23: 29
        Quote: veteran.air force
        that's just all. Dear members of the forum, somehow "gently bypass" where .... these Fursenkas and their successors, the Taburetkins, appeared,

        why, there are people calling everything by their proper names
        Quote: 911811711
        Thanks to Putin for such "defense ministers"
      4. +1
        18 June 2012 01: 25
        Quote: veteran.air force
        Well, about Skolkovo I am generally silent ..... ???

        And what about Skolkovo?
    2. party3AH
      +2
      17 June 2012 12: 08
      Quote: Fox 070
      howl of furniture, not enough, so he set about English!

      It’s enough of its own, but such a rollback can’t be cut down (well, rather, it’s stupid to write off the oh * oh amount)
    3. +2
      17 June 2012 22: 01
      Fox 070 (5) Don't be so desperate. Looking at the unsinkability of the Minister of Defense himself, we will be confident in the invulnerability of "Admiral Kuznetsov"!
  13. Dmitry.V
    +5
    17 June 2012 10: 33
    "At the host of popular shows on TV" Please correct it, it's not true) ...
    1. scrack
      0
      17 June 2012 10: 53
      I don’t watch TV at all. No wonder he is called a zomboyaschik.
    2. Crumbumbes
      +7
      17 June 2012 11: 20
      it’s high time to remove these crazy shows from TV screens, besides the fact that education with a similarity to the Western model is falling, so this shit of youth is littering the head ....
      1. Dmitry.V
        +1
        17 June 2012 12: 59
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNktFl0c0g без комментариев
  14. scrack
    +5
    17 June 2012 10: 53
    I don’t watch TV at all. No wonder he is called a zomboyaschik.
  15. TekhnarMAF
    +10
    17 June 2012 11: 03
    To our "Ilf and Petrov" - a big THANKS! I will not comment on stooltkin's actions, no words, only mats, but I am old education. I will look forward to the information about changing the chair in the Moscow region to a stool in the zone. About "PTUsniki" from the ministry - what did you want from McFaul's foster brothers? There is an ambiguous attitude to the Internet, a useful thing in terms of finding the necessary information, but as an information weapon, it is comparable to nuclear weapons, especially in conjunction with our airborne ministry!
  16. 755962
    +7
    17 June 2012 11: 10
    China launched Shenzhou 9 into space with first female taikonaut
    This mission was a landmark event for China, since for the first time in the history of the country's space program, two spacecraft docked in orbit. This technology is needed by the PRC to create its own space station, which should be launched by 2020.
    http://www.newsru.com/arch/world/16jun2012/chinaspace.html And after all, something tells me .... they will launch.
  17. +6
    17 June 2012 11: 25
    Regarding the Minister of Defense, it would be ridiculous if it were not so sad. As for education, the country needs welders and electricians, and we have enough any resale managers. Those who want to study will study in spite of everything, and to spend money from the treasury on gouging - they will not learn anything. wassat
    1. nbw
      nbw
      -6
      17 June 2012 15: 01
      Country - suddenly! - scientists and engineers are needed. Welders and electricians will always be - no chambers are needed for this mind.
      1. +1
        20 June 2012 23: 32
        A qualified electrician or a welder must be a smart person. I personally know many people, workers, who are mentally superior to many holders of engineering degrees. Or are you a supporter of the division into nobles and lackeys? Smart and not so? good did not.
  18. Oleg0705
    +5
    17 June 2012 11: 34
    Alexey Volodin, Oleg Chuvakin thanks for the collection !! good
  19. CARBON
    0
    17 June 2012 11: 40
    We also have enough eccentrics, but like SER_DUKE_OFF______ belay probably not. You can immediately see the true dnedelman, full 3,14 zdets!
  20. +3
    17 June 2012 11: 51
    Good afternoon friends!
    Yes, Alex and Oleg, as it should be on top. The review touched on topical issues. Which are sitting in the subconscious. The supply and education system is the biggest scourge not only in Russia.

    Friends, and now the question is completely off topic. Need a tank. Without armament, so that the tower would go and turn. In order to ride on the tankodrome. I wonder how much he would stand. We arrange for civil rides who want to grab Adrinalini. You can see what we are doing.

    http://www.furstenforest.eu/FurstenForest/UberFurstenForest.aspx
  21. +8
    17 June 2012 12: 03
    Thanks a lot to the authors. Your daily and weekly reviews are excellent reading, although sometimes not entirely enjoyable and reminiscent of "laughing through tears." Work hard guys, we are very glad to your creativity.
  22. +18
    17 June 2012 12: 57
    All that is gained by excessive labor .....
    all stolen !! ................ suede jacket ......... three !!
    1. 0
      19 June 2012 01: 14
      Boo-ha-ha, zacheoooot, neighing, thanks good
  23. cool.ya-nikola
    +5
    17 June 2012 13: 42
    Finally, Anatoly Eduardovich, has seized upon his favorite business, furniture! Why to the sea? So after all, he is our unsinkable minister! And do not be surprised, indignant and indignant, everything is in full accordance with Archimedes' law! Shit it is not known to sink! True, in modern Russian history there was also "the best defense minister of all times and peoples - Pasha Mercedes, now here is Tolya Taburetkin. So sleep well friends, the defense of the camp is in good hands! Slava, Salut, Vivat (and even just in case "Banzai") !!! am
  24. Stasi.
    +6
    17 June 2012 14: 20
    I will not speak about Serdyukov and all corruption associated with him. So everything is clear. To cleanse the country and all departments from corruption, you need to repeat the 37th year. Only who will decide on this? About Sobchak. All her rudeness comes from the fact that her mother is a senator of the Federation Council. And she covers her in every way. But it is obvious that the authorities were tired of enduring her antics, and they decided to put Sobchushka back in place, mother's protection was powerless. I hope that they will take it seriously, it is time to put an end to her rudeness and coexistence so that others have a science.
  25. prophetic
    +7
    17 June 2012 14: 24
    it is a sin to buy furniture in the West, but what about the support of its manufacturer
    1. broker
      +1
      17 June 2012 16: 27
      If we take into account the company of the manufacturer and its founder, maybe they want to make furniture in Russia but will be taken through London))))
  26. Messerschmitt
    +8
    17 June 2012 14: 29
    You’ll speak against the authorities - and they’ll find a million under your pillow! laughing
    1. sergey261180
      +1
      17 June 2012 21: 06
      I am against the government! Only a million return!
    2. +1
      17 June 2012 23: 36
      An activist of the city authorities calls us on our home phone and says: "We decided to subscribe you to our newspaper and it will be free. Do you agree?" To which the wife, suspecting a catch and divorce, refused. But nevertheless, the newspaper has been operating regularly for half a year. In everything, wherever you look, a waste of state money. The scheme is simple: the administration creates a fund to support the population; the support implementer is also assigned there; the governor, the owner of the printing press, sells his newspaper to the distributor, the distributor at the expense of the fund distributes the products among the population. Thus, allegedly for free, the morflot receives iron beds, and the stool in the person of both the seller and the seller rakes in budget money through shell companies. And mind you - does not share with anyone! Or is it still divided?
  27. +3
    17 June 2012 14: 58
    prophetic totally agree with you, we have many enterprises, even private ones, that work with metal sheets. And to make the necessary furniture according to the drawings is not difficult. As a last resort, you can create, provide, with adjust and execute. And it would be much cheaper and high quality and fast. Furniture would already be installed. We like to buy everything and place orders abroad. Commanders, your mother ... mediocre, with one crinkle and that dashed (thinking once through).

    But Twitter is absolutely necessary for our media. There you need to spread the necessary info under the guise of a private person for ordinary Americans to read and know the truth about their government.
  28. +1
    17 June 2012 15: 05
    I had a suggestion. Maybe someone knows how to write a letter to Putin and where to send it. Let's write everything that we think about the stool and not only. .When will the generation leave that over 40 will remain only those who have already been brainwashed. And where will it lead RUSSIA?
    1. +3
      17 June 2012 15: 12
      http://letters.kremlin.ru/

      http://state.kremlin.ru/administration/reception

      Only before sending a letter you need to complete a full registration
    2. prophetic
      +5
      17 June 2012 15: 58
      yes, he knows everything, they are one team. and if Putin seems to be doing something for the country, then his inaction, with the collapse of the education system, looks at least strange. Doesn’t he see that all these reforms will lead to the degradation of the country's population. sees, but does nothing. and then the question arises - who is Putin, friend or enemy, for the benefit or harm to the people ....
    3. Tomato
      +3
      17 June 2012 16: 47
      how to write a letter to Putin and where to send it. Let's write everything we think about the stool

      And Putin will tell you, where are the facts?
      Yes, they will attract for slander.
      Serdyukov is his henchman twice.
      1. 0
        18 June 2012 14: 24
        Tomat EN
        how to write a letter to Putin and where to send it. Let's write everything we think about the stool

        And Putin will tell you, where are the facts?
        Yes, they will attract for slander.
        Serdyukov is his henchman twice.


        In your opinion, it turns out that what is printed in the nonsense article? Then you need to ask the author, where did he get this information and why did it publish it? Then you will probably have to explain that there are only trepaki on our forum. I don’t think so.
    4. 0
      17 June 2012 23: 46
      Vyalik
      "how to write a letter to Putin and where to send it. Let's write everything we think about Stouretkin"
      For your information, the subscription page on the Demokrator.ru server is open. There you can create your application for a letter, collect signatures, print it, put it in an envelope, stick the stamp of any country and send it by Russian Post.
      Recently, from the "military materials" on the links, I participated in collecting signatures under a letter to Lavrov from Russians living in Syria.
      1. 0
        18 June 2012 14: 18
        Vyalik
        "how to write a letter to Putin and where to send it. Let's write everything we think about Stouretkin"
        For your information, the subscription page on the Demokrator.ru server is open.

        The very name Democrator is no longer acceptable to me. I don’t remember who said “when you say democracy, your hand reaches for the gun” or something like that.
  29. Messerschmitt
    +1
    17 June 2012 15: 09
    Quote: prophetic
    Staff Sergeant
    Online
    prophetic RU Today, 14:24 new
    - 3 +
    it is a sin to buy furniture in the West, but what about the support of its manufacturer


    Yes, only your own pocket cares! And why are such always in power? Where are the normal people?
    1. prophetic
      0
      17 June 2012 16: 24
      "people are like animals, when the power over the world is given"
      ARIA group "Deception"
  30. Luginin
    +5
    17 June 2012 15: 16
    It is now very easy to make a career on anti-government motives, which is what people actually do. This is generally a trend: said "bloody regime" or "freedom of speech" - and you are already a hero. The action has become minimal. Shevchuk asks one unpleasant question - he is a hero, Parfyonov makes a speech - this is discussed by the entire Internet. It all became like in the days of dissidents, only now they don’t put it in prison. Any elitist movement at some point becomes mainstream. And I predict that the mainstream of the next segment of the life that we will live will be scolded by the authorities. This will do the most opportunistic and vile people. Previously, the intellectual elite abused the power, educated people, now the power began to scold the entire Russian bydostan. And precisely at the moment when it becomes mainstream, power will acquire value for truly thinking people and become a sacred force that will hold back the cobbled-up Lochowski mainstream.

    http://www.afisha.ru/article/8284/
    From an interview with Sobchak K., December 23, 2010.
    1. +2
      17 June 2012 19: 57
      Luginin, DADY'S SHOULDER YOU BROWN belay good wink YOU AS AN ARTICLE BOLD +
      1. Luginin
        0
        18 June 2012 10: 08
        I wouldn’t want to make money from filth due to scum ... Stars on the fuselage, another thing Yes
    2. 0
      17 June 2012 23: 56
      Well, precede the record that it proclaims To the Common. Until I saw a footnote in Onets, I considered you a herald of this speech. It’s good that I suffered and read to the end and did not blur you minus.
      1. Luginin
        0
        18 June 2012 10: 10
        Patience and a little effort drinks
  31. Van
    +4
    17 June 2012 15: 25
    Quote: nokki

    Damn, I would give everything to revive Joseph Vissarionovich! How already this pooben got!


    (Ultimately, our future depends on ourselves and no one else.)


    I have long understood that dermocracy will destroy our world, beyond it is only chaos generated by excessive freedom. We need a Power that would keep our rivals at a distance and a Will to build our future, and this is not possible without a wise leader.

    It’s only a shame that some of us do not value our culture and our history, we are ready to sell our mother for jeans or a piece of plastic made in Western countries, most of our so-called elite have long betrayed everything sacred that they had and worship the golden calf in the form of the West.
    And there is not much time left, the time of flowering has already passed, the time of harvest is coming, and this harvest will be not wine blood. crying
    1. +1
      17 June 2012 17: 58
      Totally agree with you.
  32. vladimir64ss
    +1
    17 June 2012 15: 56
    The review, as always, is interesting. I hope that the case of the safe sobchak will bring to mind.
  33. Kamilla
    +1
    17 June 2012 16: 04
    hmm ... wow Ksenia Sobchak ... although, what's surprising here is her late dad, a "democrat lawyer" ... earned millions that mom and daughter spend and multiply ... also "honest and overwhelming labor "!!
  34. +3
    17 June 2012 16: 10
    Not a mess in the government - no!
    It's just that in OJSC "KREMLIN" there is a working process in the board of directors in accordance with internal regulations, and according to the law on the protection of entrepreneurship, inspections cannot be carried out within 3 years after formation, so shareholders are spinning.
  35. passmel32
    -7
    17 June 2012 16: 10
    Did you see it? what is done with the country?
    Imagine, they made the project a national data search http://ydn.ru/fpoisk
    Here any information about each of us. As I found myself here, I was simply stunned, and the main thing is accessible to everyone.
    Addresses, phone numbers, my correspondence in the social. networks, even photos.
    You can delete the information, which is very good - you go through authorization, find it for yourself and delete it.
    And then there is nobody who is looking for ...
    1. CARBON
      0
      17 June 2012 16: 44
      Do not write anything horrible - it won’t be scary. Censorship - Strength, checkmate and porno-MOGIL.
      smile SER_DUK_OFF- is our answer to all their machinations, let them think that everyone is lol
    2. +2
      17 June 2012 18: 01
      This is just another kidok. I went in and didn’t find a damn thing about myself. They printed all sorts of okay. My advice is to stop advertising them. People will fall for grandmothers and mustaches.
      1. CARBON
        +1
        17 June 2012 18: 26
        No advertisements just a girl, impressionable reassured her.
    3. 0
      17 June 2012 18: 40
      passmel32
      Madam. Well here why shove advertising? I’d be ashamed, honestly ..... to earn gray epaulettes on the day of registration - you need to be able to ... websites messed up .......
  36. Katran
    +1
    17 June 2012 16: 45
    Regarding the reforms in education, it’s funny, as always, we didn’t figure it out, scolding everything that we don’t understand, the new education system is not Fursenko’s invention, but by such standards, let’s say Europe, the idea of ​​how it should be: A person who has received a general body of knowledge for senior classes should already decide what he is interested in what subjects he wants to study, for example, a person is interested in the humanities, and physics and chemistry only takes time and nerves for him, so he takes a bunch of humanitarian subjects and a minimum of exact sciences or at the same time from the senior classes, then he chooses an institute to the taste of those / gum and goes there according to the results of the exam. The minus is horizons and general education less, plus the person is a more cool specialist.
    1. prophetic
      +4
      17 June 2012 17: 03
      the Soviet education system was no worse than the western one, so why did you need to change everything and break the working system, for what purposes?
      somewhere I heard this - "before Russia was the most reading country, now Russia is the most reading Twitter
      1. Katran
        0
        17 June 2012 18: 00
        The problem of education in Russia at the moment is happening not because the idea of ​​reform is defective and worse than education in the USSR, but because the country has not recovered from the collapse of the USSR and the mess of the 90s, if the reform is brought to its end as it was conceived, that is, specialization by profession already in high school, a single standard of knowledge testing throughout the country (USE), then everything will be fine, but the fact is that such things greatly interfere with many people earning some bribes for admission and exams which are the reason and the hype around the Reform.
        1. 0
          18 June 2012 03: 07
          Katran
          And do you believe this nonsense about raising the level of education in the context of endless reform? You are naive.
          I would not want to see in the hype around the reform of education only resistance to noble goals to cut off bribe-takers from applicants. And there is no need to ennoble the new minobra, which turns universal free education into a paid one in order to increase the ministerial salary. As for corruption, a cunning hairy hand will easily reach grantors. What difference does it make to mug whom: either the secretary of the dean, or the ministerial commission for awarding village talent? Corruption is invincible in the conditions of chaos and confusion.
    2. +4
      17 June 2012 17: 33
      No, Qatran, let me disagree with you. After all, there will still be no choice, since in Russia now there are about 24% of schools, where there is one grade at a high level - at 10 and at the 11 level. What choice do they have to offer? 5 people are humanists, and 15 are naturalists, and where can there be so many teachers and, most importantly, funding for them from where will they come from. And if a person wants to teach both literature and physics, why is he a pariah or something? Therefore, everyone will be formalized according to the classical scheme - that is to say, voluntarily forcibly - demographics take their toll, and we at the Ministry of Education either do not understand this, or do it on purpose ... As they say, I do not know how it is in Europe, but we have a profile education is not yet a friend of man ...
      1. Katran
        -2
        17 June 2012 18: 28
        You didn’t understand me correctly, the schedule is for oneself, that is, each student gains a minimum of hours, but if he wants to, he can take it for himself and more and without restrictions, you could study physics and literature at the same time. : but there are in-depth study subjects that are found in all schools such as physics, advanced mathematics, chemistry, biology, history, but there are schools with a certain bias, for example, a brother went to school where you can choose electrical engineering for in-depth study. It is clear that with such a system, classical classes become a convention, 7-8 people sit in some lessons, others 15-20, of course, such an education will cost more, but the question of price is already a problem of the Ministry of Finance. And most importantly, if this reform is not carried out today, tomorrow it will be too late the lag from the technical countries will increase to such an extent that Russia will become a third-rate country without technology.
        1. +4
          17 June 2012 19: 06
          Just imagine: let's say you are a teacher of not the most "popular" subject, for example, chemistry (forgive me chemists - this is just an example), which was educated in a Soviet school. And, for example, your subject does not arouse interest at school, and you also don’t have a size 25 breast (I am exaggerating, of course) to attract 5 eleventh graders to your lesson ... What to do? To work with those who chose chemistry - 20 people (let's say), but no director will pay as much as those who have gathered 60 people in their lesson. It turns out - also internal discrimination of teachers, and this is already a conflict within the team. And then: what if I don’t want to go into any subject at all (and we now have such 20 percent for sure) - what to do in this case. I believe that a new system of coercion will simply grow under the flag of good intentions of "multidisciplinary". Well, and with Russia's lagging behind, I think you were too hasty. In Portugal for XNUMX years "profile". And while serious Portuguese technological leaps, I do not see something. In general, I do not impose my opinion - it's just my opinion. Thanks for the discussion.
        2. prophetic
          +2
          17 June 2012 19: 13
          Quote: Katran
          Of course, such an education will cost more, but the question of price is already the problem of the Ministry of Finance


          it seems to me that the issue of price will be our problem more
          and, most likely, the average level of education will be lower than in the same Soviet times.
          1. Katran
            -1
            17 June 2012 21: 35
            Teachers receive an hourly fee in Germany, so it doesn’t matter how many students attend the lesson, of course there is a lower bar, for example, no one will teach the course, and there are upper ones, that is, more than 20 people in the group are not allowed, so you need to be in time Check in first. Well, if you don’t want to go deeper, then please get 9 grades of education and work as a janitor, no one will pull you by the ears. And in general there are no ideal systems in the world, you just need to see which is optimal in these conditions. The Germans have the same problem as in Russia, for example, no one wants to study for Engineers but Lawyers and Economists more than enough (although engineers have one of the highest salaries here). You can certainly experiment to find something for your own, but it costs a lot of money and a lot of time and there is no time for kokraz for experiments, so read 100 years with the experiments lost. But I don’t know about Portugal, I also need to take into account the mentality of the people and the structure of the economy, i.e. its specialization and historical development.
    3. +1
      18 June 2012 00: 04
      Katran
      Here you are right when you say that favorable conditions are created for stamping people with a very limited outlook. For example, a humanist - a goblin - why does he need the laws of physics, infinity, space and time? They even hinder him a lot when creating his own theory of manipulating public consciousness. And so physics also needs AS Pushkin, LN Tolstoy and "Woe from Wit" he has solid signs, squiggles, formulas and special punctuation marks. In the theory of physics, a comma permutation can only lead to a proof of the theorem. And the fact that the proof of the theorem led to a nuclear explosion, we will leave this empirical theme of the morality of evil and good to the philosophical workshop.
      So in your text the words "will be determined", "somehow", "will choose", etc. sound. Probably "fizek and matimatek" were given to you on the fly.
      1. Katran
        +1
        18 June 2012 00: 58
        Sorry, what do you mean when talking on the fly
        1. 0
          18 June 2012 02: 11
          Katran
          We had such a winged one when our excellent students pulled their hand before everyone else, answered correctly and ran away from the class to play football. and the three of us thought over the next question, but almost to no purpose. Such an incentive was created by Teacher and it was effective. I tried to read more at home, before the lesson we consulted with a neighbor on the desk.
    4. 0
      18 June 2012 07: 54
      Katran
      A person having received a general store of knowledge for high school should already decide what he is interested in and what subjects he wants to study,

      I, studying in a Soviet school, only after the army decided on a profession. Successfully graduated from high school. But with some subjects that I did not pay attention to at school, I still get interested. For general development.
      1. Katran
        0
        18 June 2012 19: 32
        You may not agree with my opinion, but one thing but I live in a country where a profiled system of education is adopted and I live well, German engineers are famous all over the world, and what will happen in Russia is not yet known, that is, it’s known that Russia is slowly recovering under the leadership of people who, at once, have developed and are implementing comprehensive reforms in the above privacy and this reform of education, why reinvent the wheel if the system is worked out and works successfully, you want to live at least as Europe, adopt the best and drop out the worst.
  37. black cat
    -7
    17 June 2012 16: 57
    Quote: esaul
    What did the "diva" lack? fame, demand or dough? She had everything, but, apparently, she also wanted the glory of a political herald.

    Do not judge all by yourself. Not everyone loots on a leash by Putin running around.
    1. CARBON
      +11
      17 June 2012 17: 31
      Yes, Putin was given to you, not talking about him. Our Supreme Commander was not even afraid of a woman with a scythe, and the orange ghoul has been inaudible and not visible for two years already, and the BEER was still rushing at Russia, like cattle! Wait Ksenia will be soon, I will also wash the floor, I will say in the first movi: "Hati No. _____" am
      1. +1
        18 June 2012 00: 20
        Well, CARBON, well done, good done.
        Tokmo voted for him in order to erase the tragedy of Ya_vor_ovsky from the radio point.
  38. black cat
    -5
    17 June 2012 17: 34
    Quote: Fox 070
    Sergey, in my opinion everyone (including myself) understands perfectly well where the legs grow from this pack, they just don’t see an alternative to the current president. Well, there’s no one to replace it !!!

    The current president, during his 12th term in power, has only proved that any decent person can replace him. It will not be worse.
    1. CARBON
      +6
      17 June 2012 17: 58
      You, dear gatto nero, need to go to Ukraine in 2004 when decent, honest, good people came. Turned out to be a bunch of thieves and political prostitutes
    2. Fox 070
      +1
      17 June 2012 19: 19
      Quote: gatto nero
      that any decent person can replace him.

      We have already passed the thesis that a cook can rule the state. Decency alone is not enough here, and we don’t have decent people on the political Olympus. Need a person is quite tough and demanding. And about 12 years you remind you in vain, during this time not a lot has been done positively, which cannot be said about previous years.
      Understanding all the mistakes of the current administration, I repeat that today I do not see an alternative to Putin!
      There are candidates - suggest, we will discuss!
      1. 0
        18 June 2012 02: 29
        Fox 070
        Well, again about the cook. Havel today wears the entire so-called progressive world. Who is he? Anyone who has been digging his nose in a fountain pen all his life? What is it better from a cook? Whom chance will ascend to the throne of that and take at face value.
  39. black cat
    -5
    17 June 2012 18: 09
    Quote: CARBON
    You, dear gatto nero, need to go to Ukraine in 2004 when decent, honest, good people came. Turned out to be a bunch of thieves and political prostitutes

    So we have the same thing. Anyone, even the best, after one term of government (if he does not see control over himself, and in Russia no one controls him, in Ukraine there is at least some possibility of control), turns into either political prostitutes or dictators. And imagine what will happen after the third term with this person.
    I am in favor of limiting powers 2 times for 3 years. And BASTA.
    1. CARBON
      +2
      17 June 2012 18: 18
      Do not. already gone, horseradish radish is sweet: the same prostitutes, thieves and sodomites wink
  40. black cat
    -1
    17 June 2012 18: 26
    Quote: CARBON
    Do not. already gone, horseradish radish is sweet: the same prostitutes, thieves and sodomites

    You have a little better in Ukraine. You can put a thief in jail. You can change the power in the elections. You are more free in your behavior. Although you have problems above the roof.
  41. khoma nickson
    +5
    17 June 2012 19: 12
    Well, the times have gone! We buy pickled cucumbers in India, furniture for the fleet - in England. Have we ended the forest? Children of the nobility went to the revolution - just like Sofya Perovskaya, Kollontai or Inessa Armand. Ksenia with a bonboy on the Yekaterinensky Canal. And Yashin instead of Dybenko or the very founder of the proletarian state? Whether you want to study at school or not, and why should you study when any diploma is bungled for a bribe. McFaul got carried away with lectures, and what should we read to our ambassador in Washington as a response at Harvard or Stanford? The United States gives money for the Internet and for "anti-Russian propaganda and agitation" at 36 cents per Russian per year. The Germans were more generous to Lenin. O tempora, o mores! Hopes for salvation are scanty - except to resurrect the Father of the Nations, with him all the NKVD with Nikolai Ivanovich (Lavrenty will be thinner in terms of purges), informers with guards, party activists, take away passports in the village, and restore the GULAG. And then in SLON - monks, Karlag - with Nazarbayev, Vorkut - with Lisin and Mordashev, Norilsk - with Potanin and Deripaska, Kolyma mines - with Abramovich. After all, they just won't give it back, you bastards. Moreover, we were eliminated from EURO 2012 at the very first stage. Horror and darkness!
  42. Bashkaus
    +1
    17 June 2012 19: 16
    Eh, comrades sailors, you’re supposed to continue to sleep on torpedoes (((
  43. Van
    +2
    17 June 2012 19: 58
    Quote: Fox 070
    There are candidates - suggest, we will discuss!


    Well, I can offer my candidacy, I promise to be no worse than Stalin. laughing
    1. Fox 070
      +3
      17 June 2012 20: 05
      Quote: Wang
      I promise to be no worse than Stalin

      laughing Worse is not necessary, but better not hurt! laughing
  44. malera
    0
    17 June 2012 19: 59
    Quote: Fox 070
    And about 12 years you remind you in vain, during this time not a little has been done positive, which cannot be said about previous years.

    Yes, it is not in vain - for the country, 12 lost years are many.
    Quote: Fox 070
    And about 12 years you remind you in vain, during this time not a little has been done positive, which cannot be said about previous years.

    Do not find it hard, why is it done so much positive, tell me.

    Quote: Fox 070
    Need a person is quite tough and demanding.

    After kindness to the ministers Nurnaliev, Serdyukov and Fursenko, a demanding one is needed, of course.

    Quote: Fox 070
    We have already passed the thesis that a cook can rule the state.

    Of course, 12 years passed, we have tens of thousands of people with the rank of colonel. Most of them have the conscience to stay in the kitchen, rather than go to the Kremlin.
    Quote: Fox 070
    Understanding all the mistakes of the current administration, I repeat that today I do not see an alternative to Putin!

    And no wonder. He made them all either a laughing stock or facilitated their flight from the country. The party did not even allow to register.
    Quote: Fox 070
    There are candidates - suggest, we will discuss!

    We will discuss the elections. What to guess.
  45. black cat
    0
    17 June 2012 20: 02
    Quote: Fox 070
    And about 12 years you remind you in vain, during this time not a little has been done positive, which cannot be said about previous years.

    Yes, it is not in vain - for the country, 12 lost years are many.

    Quote: Fox 070
    And about 12 years you remind you in vain, during this time not a little has been done positive, which cannot be said about previous years.

    Do not find it hard, why is it done so much positive, tell me.

    Quote: Fox 070
    Need a person is quite tough and demanding.

    After kindness to the ministers Nurnaliev, Serdyukov and Fursenko, a demanding one is needed, of course.

    Quote: Fox 070
    We have already passed the thesis that a cook can rule the state.

    Of course, 12 years passed, we have tens of thousands of people with the rank of colonel. Most of them have the conscience to stay in the kitchen, rather than go to the Kremlin.
    Quote: Fox 070
    ПI’m repeating all the mistakes of the current administration, I repeat that today I don’t see an alternative to Putin!

    And no wonder. He made them all either a laughing stock or facilitated their flight from the country. The party did not even allow to register.

    Quote: Fox 070
    There are candidates - suggest, we will discuss!
    We will discuss the elections.
    1. Fox 070
      +2
      17 June 2012 20: 13
      Quote: gatto nero
      We will discuss the elections.

      Again the old hackneyed record. Before the election, 6 fly, what, all 6 years you are going to repeat the same thing?
      No, really, if there is anyone to offer - say, do not be shy. If the candidate really turns out to be worthy, I will support you.
      Quote: gatto nero
      He made them all either a laughing stock or facilitated their flight from the country.

      Which of those who escaped from the country do you consider worthy of the presidency? answer, only without demagoguery!
  46. irkut2000
    -1
    17 June 2012 20: 16
    father thief
    What can happen from such ?!
  47. black cat
    -1
    17 June 2012 20: 51
    Quote: Fox 070
    Which of those who escaped from the country do you consider worthy of the presidency? answer, only without demagoguery!

    Victor Makushin
    1. Fox 070
      0
      17 June 2012 21: 12
      Quote: gatto nero
      Victor Makushin

      This is not serious. He is a businessman and has nothing to do with politics; besides, he escaped due to credit fraud. And do you consider this person worthy? request
  48. patriot2
    +2
    17 June 2012 21: 06
    Authors undisputed +
    Again pleased the main furniture maker of the Moscow Region. Apparently it was kept for furniture in the government - soon the number of staff members will surpass the number of full-time officers, the MO strategy is clear.
    McFaul is the permanent showman again in the arena - the class as explained everything.
    Ksyusha Sobchak will surpass the pope and will enter the annals of history as the most notorious oppositionist.
    Well, our beloved by all the people mines. Education forges the postulates of how to prepare the most educated ignoramuses, who understand only one issue.
    In general, for some leaders, the part of the body on which they migrated moved to the place of the head, and the upper part - the head is resting somewhere else, or is it just an illusion?
    All this resembles the game of our football team - they started for health, but graduated? The advocate will leave, but what to do here - how to live with such punctures further? There are more questions than answers. For power hurt!
    The circus has left - clowns in the arena!
  49. andrejbaklak
    -2
    17 June 2012 21: 26
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  50. seminyako
    +3
    17 June 2012 21: 37
    Probably, there should also be transparency in military affairs and public participation in all matters of military development. Our "gentlemen" have destroyed the USSR * - and the Russian Federation will also be destroyed.
    1. 0
      18 June 2012 00: 34
      I would like to believe in progressive development, but there is a danger of losing the "stabilizer" that the majority hoped for
  51. bremest
    +1
    17 June 2012 22: 20
    Yeah.... somehow it’s not fit to go to war in Syria with Tabretkin and Makarych...... And Sobchak is a typical support of NATO within the country..... GDP created it, and now it is reaping the benefits.... .
  52. kNow
    +2
    17 June 2012 22: 31
    Sobchak is the Trojan horse of the Russian opposition. She will not spit into the well from which they drink...
    1. 0
      19 June 2012 01: 09
      Apparently she doesn’t give a damn already, otherwise we wouldn’t have found out about her
  53. Aftar
    +2
    18 June 2012 00: 23
    Serdyukov is your typical Western licker. Some comrades will not understand that in Germany it cannot be like in Ecuador, and in the Arctic it cannot be like in Guadeloupe.
    So in Russia it cannot be like in the West. And all attempts to “do it as it is” look funny and extremely sad. The latest example is the Russian national team shamefully screaming "Euro" under the leadership of a Western Advocate. But that’s just the way it is: all of Moscow wants to be Europe. They say it’s there - beyond the Urals they slurp borscht with bast shoes. And we nah. What are you doing? We are with this... with IQ. We order furniture from Britain.
    It's time to come to your senses and live differently from there. And if “how it is there” is nice, then we must move to the much-adored West.
  54. 0
    18 June 2012 04: 26
    The Ministry of Defense still cannot put things in order with money allowances. No one can understand anything. Every month the pay is different. They even began to calculate, as if for an overpayment. How can a minister resist this? To be a minister in the Russian Federation. Second. This opposition is definitely rotten. The US is working off the money. Sobchak should be expelled from everywhere a long time ago. Let him go to Europe, she needs people like her to speed up the process of her end. Let him promote Islam there. The EU collects all the scum from Russia, under the banner of protecting human rights, etc. Terrorists, fraudsters, bandits all find shelter there. And K. Sobchak, Narusova’s mother, should be kicked out of the Federal Council. Who put her there anyway? What kind of figure is she? I was able to educate, but here I run the country. Next. The Americans should have attacked and seized all the resources of the Russian Federation long ago. Glory to the nuclear triad! Only she holds back. And no special forces.
  55. 0
    18 June 2012 07: 53
    Or maybe at 37 they were shot for the cause, now you look around there are only crooks and thieves and all the party members, maybe now you need to cleanse yourself of garbage and dirt, otherwise soon there will be nowhere for a brick to fall everywhere, almost in Foggy Albion or Switzerland, and no one needs them and no one is pursuing them
  56. +3
    18 June 2012 08: 39
    Regarding Sobchak’s money, I can say one thing: it’s a pity we don’t have a law in our country according to which one could ask “WHERE DOES THE FIREWOOD COME FROM?” Well, when purchasing from 100, it would also not hurt to justify your income!
  57. Sehiru san
    +1
    18 June 2012 13: 51
    The review is, as always, a real holiday! (with tears in his eyes) It's funny, but makes you think. Maybe they are talking nonsense precisely because no one will answer them. The Ministry of Defense will not defend itself, and the “Elite” will happily accept “democracy” according to the American model...
  58. irkut2000
    0
    18 June 2012 23: 46
    The father stole, the daughter stole...
    It’s good that the Lord didn’t give you grandchildren!
  59. +1
    19 June 2012 01: 08
    Better the key to the apartment where the girls squeal
  60. Scholarships
    0
    19 June 2012 08: 17
    covered the raspberries)
  61. 0
    20 June 2012 21: 11
    the only and adequate answer can only be a FULL PROHIBITION for ALL STAFF storing money in foreign banks, for civil servants of a certain rank a ban on educating children abroad.
  62. 0
    20 June 2012 23: 54
    The Amers have a serious problem with the selection of personnel. They are all selecting some kind of incompetent people for the positions of revolutionaries. So no amount of money will be enough for a revolution in Russia. And probably, according to the old folk tradition, half of the amount was stolen on the way to the fight.
  63. Rascopov
    +2
    21 June 2012 03: 11
    If people like Pugacheva, Leontiev and others like them can buy themselves mansions in Miami, do you think Sobchak is poorer than them? wink
    There is such money circulating in show business and on TV that you never dreamed of it!
    Nobody was interested in Sobchak's money until she started blathering on the authorities!
  64. escobar
    0
    23 June 2012 23: 51
    Sobchachka is like a damn corpse - it’s sickening to watch..