The Drive offered to search for destroyed C-400 missiles at the bottom of the English Channel

Appeared in the Russian media news that Russia had to destroy damaged missiles for the C-400 complex supplied to China, caused an ambiguous reaction. Some foreign media began to put forward versions of what might actually happen to the rockets. According to the publication The Drive, Russia did not destroy the rocket - they simply drowned in the English Channel.

The American edition claims that the Russian ship Nikifor Begichevheading to China with cargo belonging to the C-400 complex, 3 in January 2018, in the English Channel during the storm, faced with "certain problems on the deck", after which it returned to Russia. Following him, the ship returned to the Baltic Ocean power, also involved in the transportation of Russian military equipment.

There is a possibility that the cargo could not stand it and fell from the ship. Such cases have already occurred, including with Russian ships.

- writes the publication, adding that the operation to rescue the guided anti-aircraft missiles 40H6, which could be at the bottom of the English Channel, Russia could carry out secretly or just preparing for it.

If Russia did not lift this cargo from the bottom, then sunken containers with missiles could become "goldfields for Western intelligence services."

- concludes the edition.

Earlier, the general director of Rostec, Sergey Chemezov, commenting on the supply of C-400 air defense systems to China, said the contract was delayed a little because the missiles supplied with the complex were damaged during a storm and had to be destroyed.

Comments

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

"If Russia did not lift this cargo from the bottom, then sunken containers with missiles could become" gold mines for Western intelligence services ... "
Well, if they drowned in a storm, then you - they definitely won’t get adversaries!

[new max]

The gold rush is returning. Everything to the Golden machinations in the English Channel. We will make America great again. Where are the specialists in digging the seas from Ukraine? So their skills will come in handy.

[SRC P-15]

There is a possibility that the cargo could not stand it and fell from the ship. Such cases have already occurred, including with Russian ships.

With a light wave of the wave, rockets transform, rockets turn ... into elegant Poseidons. Great Britain is living out its last days.

[Etsma]

And it seems to me that soon there will be a no-fly zone over Great Britain and France. It remains only, somewhere nearby, to drop the radar, inadvertently of course. And lose so that no one could find.

[new max]

Quote: Great Combinator

Quote: new max

Where are the specialists in digging the seas from Ukraine? So their skills will come in handy.

My compatriots dug up the Black Sea with wooden shovels when they were not disturbed by water. First they dug a pit, then they let water through the Bosphorus. The process was laborious but still the work was done. Everything was done dry. What is common with diving to the bottom of the English Channel? Here we need other specialists to constantly search for the bottom. Can the Russian government connect?

Are you joking about digging the sea or do you call doctors at home?

[new max]

Make a fool pray, he will hurt his forehead. Here she is "purposefulness". The official government of Ukraine writes about this in official history books. And officially speaks about it from the high stands. Do not cast a shadow on the slab. About the Sumerians the same story. Just an unsuccessful attempt to search identity, which was eventually hung on the evil Kremlin propaganda. The people should be proud, but there is nothing. There are fairy tales for adults. The same Ruslana threw a test balloon about the Sumerians through the media, but did not work, so the evil Kremlin propaganda is "to blame."

[new max]

The evil Russian Surkovian "propoganda" is to blame for everything. She broke your whole life. And don't show us a new book on the history of Ukraine, preferably a link to the text about digging the seas.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Great Combinator

At the expense of the Black Sea - this is fake growing up. propaganda

again ho_khlov Muscovites to blame ...

[The Great Combinator]

Ruslan really froze nonsense about the Sumerians.

[ddmitrij]

Surprisingly, the motivated people in five years did not come to the improvement of well-being. Although some individuals came of course, but not all.
So maybe you are not going there?

[new max]

Yes, yes, yes. Of course. Great accomplishments are taking place in a neighboring country. Incredible reforms have put Ukraine at the forefront of world industry. The chemical industry has settled down, mechanical engineering has grown 5 times, output in excess of modern electronics has increased 40 times. There are more people who want to move to Ukraine from all over the world. The population is growing all the time. The rise in all spheres of life, culture. Science is ahead of the best global indicators. Collapse in all indicators. The truth is all only under the influence of hemp. As soon as its effect ends, everything immediately returns to its place.

[Roman070280]

You shouldn’t laugh at Taras so much ..
He, of course, can embellish a little, as it is now in Ukraine .. it is clear that life there is not sugar .. But there are reasons for this too !! The Civil War, the factories, the economy at the bottom, a lot of debt .. there is no where to take money from .. However .. they did not freeze ..

But we all seem to have it ... and oil, and gas ... and sea-forests .. And the entire periodic table .. Weapons, nuclear power plants .. Everything is for ourselves .. and we sell everything besides .. And pensions 150 dollars ..
And if everything is clear with Ukraine, why it is where it is .. then that's why we have not gone far from it - that’s just the question ..

And before you laugh at your neighbors ... it would also be nice to look at yourself from the side sometimes ..

[new max]

Quote: Roman070280

You shouldn’t laugh at Taras so much ..
He, of course, can embellish a little, as it is now in Ukraine .. it is clear that life there is not sugar .. But there are reasons for this too !! The Civil War, the factories, the economy at the bottom, a lot of debt .. there is no where to take money from .. However .. they did not freeze ..

But we all seem to have it ... and oil, and gas ... and sea-forests .. And the entire periodic table .. Weapons, nuclear power plants .. Everything is for ourselves .. and we sell everything besides .. And pensions 150 dollars ..
And if everything is clear with Ukraine, why it is where it is .. then that's why we have not gone far from it - that’s just the question ..

And before you laugh at your neighbors ... it would also be nice to look at yourself from the side sometimes ..

The main reason for all the troubles of Ukrainians is the Ukrainians themselves and their president Poroshenko. Still, they would freeze. They’ve been digging gas from the pipe for a year now and they’re driving Gazprom. What would you do without Gazprom and good Putin?
The Ukrainians themselves artificially created a civil conflict. For that, they fought for it and ran into it.
About pensions is not necessary. This is already sick. The people do not perceive it. This is a stigma of liberal propaganda. You will change the manual. I'm sick of your "care" about pensioners. In the 90s you didn't care about them much, but now you want to get into power on the slogan about pensioners. Hypocrites.

[Roman070280]

People everywhere are born the same .. But our presidents stand each other ..
Well, actually they’re not digging gas at all now, why are you joking about something .. Earlier - maybe ..
Without Gazprom, we would have become like Ukraine .. which I actually wrote about ..
Who and how created the conflict-this is the tenth thing .. I wrote about what is in fact ..
And about pensions it is necessary !! Already sick of this mess !! This is just really a disgrace ..
And where does the stigma, propaganda and the 90s ?? Is everything all right with your head ?? What kind of power do I want to get into ?? Make an appointment with a psychiatrist .. Or did the TV completely corrode your brain, and everything that does not fit the line of the party is not able to be adequately perceived ?? In general, to hear about propaganda .. in a country where this same propaganda is pouring from the screen around the clock .. This is what cockroaches needed to be fed so in my head ..

PS .. I wrote on the merits of the topic .. without inventing a word, without embellishing anything, and without lying .. In response, another hypocrite threw his "liberals, manual" on the fan .. In reality, if there is nothing to answer, then you better not interfere ..

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Great Combinator

The minimum wage increased from UAH 1218 in 2014 to UAH 4173. in 2019. the average salary increased from 3600 to 10573 on 01.01.2019/8/27. Given the growth of the dollar from 2013 to XNUMX hryvnia, the income level has become like in XNUMX

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Great Combinator

Are you still funny?

being engaged in firefighting activities at facilities, I observe a huge number of migrant workers from the "independent" (they replaced Tajiks at the lowest stage of the "evolution" of the builder: now Tajiks are welders, ventilation assemblers, often electricians ... and yours - carry the solution in a stretcher, unload a truck that has arrived with materials ... even if he is an electrician - no one will let him near the wiring - his own hierarchy) ... But my brother works in the PLR, when they come to a call to, for example, a sauna, in addition to the actual detention, they check passports, so here: all the "girls" are citizens ... "independent" (I live in Surgut)
so what are you talking about our "poverty" ?? and about your "boom"? and why then YOURS come to us to earn money and not vice versa ??
Great schemer, you are carrying such a game now, I have the feeling that you have not yet understood that there are no children here and you are trying to screw in all sorts of nonsense, without even worrying about such questions: "maybe someone has relatives there", "someone then communicates with old acquaintances from there "(after all, there are already phones !! and even all sorts of Skype)," someone will not believe it, get confused and start checking the information ", so why didn’t you think about such simple questions before talking outright nonsense ??
You are trying to link everything to the dollar exchange rate, yes, it seems to be true, but you won’t believe it: how I ate, I eat, how I refueled, I refuel the car (yes, despite the price increase, and in the same quantities) that I wanted to - then I'll buy it in the store - I won't count: will I have enough money, honestly: I have on my account on the card that "for expenses" over the past few years, the account has never dropped below 70 thousand rubles, despite the dollar rates, gasoline prices, sanctions from mattress mats, Merkel's poses at summits and the amount of hysteria from the Baltic countries.
I don’t need to tell about the fact that life has become worse for me and you feel better: you are coming to us to earn money and not us to you - and this is the main indicator of your lies

[ddmitrij]

It’s a little strange for me that you always compare everything with Russia. Is this some kind of psychological syndrome? Well, you seek Europe, so why not compare with Europe? And why do you consider only income? you count the costs. How much has the utility changed, food, fuel, etc.
And apparently from a good life in Europe appeared millions of Ukrainians, ready to plow for a penny.

[The Great Combinator]

But I now communicate with the inhabitants of Russia and not Germany. We left one state in 1991 and have a common heritage in the form of industry, science and the mentality of people. In Germany, completely different people live, they are like Martians for us. Highly developed civilization. And our peoples are in many ways similar and have a common history of development. I am trying to convey to you what effect the war between our states has on the economies of our countries. It is detrimental to Ukraine and Russia alike. But they did not start it. Che there still Ukrainians?

[16329]

Why Germany is a highly developed civilization inaccessible to us, believe me, I know Germany and Russia very well, working for 18 years for a large German company: at the same time, 11 years in the state and 9 years in the head office,
I can tell you the following: in Russia, better service, less bureaucracy, better Internet and higher digitalization, lower food prices, lower taxes and insurance, the pace of development in Russia is very high, new city blocks are being built; roads, airports, and Germany's zero-year infrastructure
In other matters, for a resident of Ukraine, Germany is really a highly developed civilization, because you are stuck in the 90s, judging by your admiration for modern dirty, degrading Europe

[ddmitrij]

You still tell about medical care in this Germany. Although no one will believe. As I myself ran into it, I was shocked simply.

[16329]

Medical care in Germany is complete darkness, I came across this in 2017, it is insurance medicine in all its glory, no one is interested in curing you, but it is necessary to examine as much as possible, even if this does not affect the treatment method, doctors emigrants for the most part, a large number of errors, you will definitely get an additional infection in the clinic, the service will be the same for both the manager with state insurance 700 euros per month (plus the same amount of company) and the Turkish socialist grandmother, it generally makes sense to buy private insurance for a single room for 30 - 50 euros per month and try to save yourself,
When a blood test was taken, an infection was introduced into a vein, an entrance for a dropper was inserted, a vein was blocked, I was infected with chickenpox at the Essen University Hospital, this is an unforgettable experience, etc., as a whole, better modest free Russian medicine with the opportunity to use the possibilities of personal financing somewhere than German dumb reinforced concrete system
By the way, very rich people in Germany do not insure themselves, are treated for cache, it is much more effective
Private German insurance in the event of a serious illness can ruin a person
It’s very difficult to find a normal doctor, but perhaps it’s necessary to seriously fight the system

[16329]

Yes, in Germany there are dirty cities and broken highways, and in the city of Duisburg there are areas where the police are afraid to go, in Russia the bulk of the population lives in their own apartments (if you remember they privatized for free) In Germany, for the most part they rent apartments, the mortgage has low interest but prices high and very long terms, car loans are inexpensive only for three years and then rates increase, BMW in Germany costs more than in Russia, VAT 19%
The average Germans living on a salary save on everything, go in the same jacket both in warm time and in winter, it’s cold in houses, save on heat, sparen is the slogan of German life
And people - everyone lives differently in Russia and in Germany, who both like and live, education in Germany = bad, a peculiar culture, however, it is difficult for a resident of Petersburg to be surprised at something culturally, and in general Germany has changed a lot over the past 18 years and not for the better
In general, continue to pray to Germany, I wish you to move there, for the Ukrainian mentality the very thing is, yours are happily plowing in Poland, and girls in Turkish clubs are dancing
Okay let's leave it

[16329]

Well, if Lublin is a highly developed place, then where do you live then, Cologne has long become a semi-Turkish city, the Germans live mainly in enclaves in the suburbs
This applies to most German cities in former western Germany, there are enough opposition rallies in St. Petersburg, Belgium is called western Poland, although Flanders is still nothing, but Wallonia is a carcass of light
Paris, I hope you don’t have to comment, Arabized azure, and so on

[ddmitrij]

In small towns it’s still not bad. I spent six months in Gladenbach. This is in Giessen. It is quite comfortable. A decent town. There are few Turks and they work. Their kebab house is central to the city. Really tasty food.

[16329]

PS I don’t say anything about a communal apartment and such exotic things as a dirty water tax, and of course about problems related to refugees and local foreigners

[ddmitrij]

I just do not live in Russia, but in the very Europe where you are trying to get through. And about "highly developed civilizations" I know not by hearsay. And I know about the Ukrainians who come and what they do here. And, by the way, there are many refugees from the "Poroshenko regime". They call it that. And these refugees plow here to feed their families who stayed in Ukraine. Because in a happy Ukraine, with a rapidly developing economy, there is no job, and the salaries are penny, in spite of your stories.

[Awaz]

I do not like to intermeddle in such topics, but somehow your words do not tally with what is really happening. When, on the eve of the events, I was in (on) Ukraine, the hryvnia cost 5-6 rubles, while the ruble exchange rate was slightly higher than 30 (30-32), the hryvnia exchange rate was also approximately 5-6 in relation to the buck. So, even so, it turns out that the hryvnia exchange rate fell about 5 times (at best. Before the war in Donbass, my acquaintance who lived there, being a miner, received a salary equal to 2,5 times my payment for an apartment (the average is in 80 meters) For me, the payments were 1 / 15 from my salary. Moreover, crossing the border of the Russian Federation and Ukraine then you get fucked up by what seems to have got into 90 in Russia: a bunch of dilapidated farms, overgrown fields, on the roads are mainly Soviet auto junk in the form of 6 5 and sevens from the WHA .., slightly stirred by the Sensami .. Road b They were worse, very decently. People from the territories bordering on the Russian Federation all saw this and therefore sought to return to the Russian Federation. In the Kharkiv region it was exactly the same, even worse than in Donetsk, and what, do you think that during this time it suddenly became better?
We in the Russian Federation also have clever men who can fit any statistics for TV, so it will seem that we live better than anyone. In reality, those who are still adequate, in Ukraine, they admit that they are full and worse every day.
I will not praise what is happening in the Russian Federation, but still, the authorities in the Russian Federation are trying to give back to the people, those fees and taxes that are being torn off from us, and even in my fly ... ke it is noticeable.

[Captain45]

Quote: Great Combinator

The minimum wage increased from 1218 hryvnia in 2014 year to 4173 UAH. in 2019 year. average salary increased from 3600 to 10573 at 01.01.2019 of the year. Given the growth of the dollar from 8 to 27 hryvnia, the income level became the same as in 2013, despite the loss of plants and mines in Donbass and the breakdown in economic ties with the Russian Federation. The economy of Ukraine is constantly growing. You better look at the number of dollar billionaires in Russia and think about your development path. 10% of the rich own 90% of the country's wealth. This is cooler than in India.

"I do not recognize you in makeup! Yuri Nikulin? No. Sergey Bondarchuk? ... Inokenty Smoktunovsky ... My God ... Kesha ..." (c) Glory! Kovtun! Japanese city, how can you not recognize

[Vasiliev Yu]

Surprisingly, the motivated people in five years did not come to the improvement of well-being. Although some individuals came of course, but not all.
So maybe you are not going there?

And the same can be said about us, only we, headed by Putin, have been walking for 20 years.
And about the sea a copan. Alone go .. you say nonsense, and smart then portray idiots discussing this insanity for years.
Everyone in the government has their own go ... you. We have no less.

[Sovpadenie]

Take more (if the countdown is from 1991, the time of the first prostitution of the Russian Empire). 28 years old already))

[free_flier]

Rivers such as the Kuban, Dnieper, etc., flowing into the pit, during the company shut up their asses?

[donavi49]

Why? 63 average and 143 peak. New multi-beam sonars allow mapping of the bottom with very high accuracy. How many recently found all sorts of different things.

Moreover, the route was more or less known for sure who at least was driving traffic and even if they overslept (which is minimal), then archives can be restored. Now narrowing down the search bar.

[aiden]

And why the Argentinean submarine was not found then. She's clearly bigger than rockets

[donavi49]

Found it. Here the whole question is in the search area. The Argentinean boat search area is larger than the entire English Channel. And found at a depth of a kilometer.

[Elk]

In terms of the cost of finding missiles that are not there, it’s as if gold will be

[Machito]

It is necessary to send a desa to our western partners, so that they look for a cat in a dark room.

[ddmitrij]

Well, not for you to pay for searches)))
Let the darlings seek

[Elk]

And I would take an advance

[max702]

According to rumors, this cargo by agreement with China was sent to Venezuela .. And the cries about the drowned people are so distracting .. Then it becomes logical and sea shipping ..

[free_flier]

Do not fall to the office ...
And the idiot understands that sending everything to China by rail is faster and more reliable than the order.

[taiga2018]

rather, you will find Skripals there, not rockets ...

[Pavel Tsybai]

And around that place, the cat who escaped swims in braces.

[Kharkiv]

Why did they even need to be delivered by sea? Actually, we have a land border with China

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Kharkov

Why did they even need to be delivered by sea?

Yesterday they wrote - the delivery of such oversized cargo by sea is cheaper.

[cniza]

Still plays the fact of distance, the sea is definitely cheaper.

[Kharkiv]

Some kind of nonsense, excuse me

[vkfriendly]

Why would it be cheaper around the entire continent of about 20 km, when by land through Kazakhstan to the Chinese border 000 km from Moscow and the missiles themselves fit perfectly on the train. a platform.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Kharkov
Why did they even need to be delivered by sea?
Yesterday they wrote - the delivery of such oversized cargo by sea is cheaper.

Alex,

Such excuses "officials" do not climb into any gate.

[Vasiliev Yu]

Yesterday they wrote - the delivery of such oversized cargo by sea is cheaper.

And here then I will leave what you remind about. The reasoning was about the whole 'heap' of 6 kumplexes. In reality, you can forget about all this 'heap', probably only missiles were supplied, well, maybe 2 more complexes. But I can’t say anything about the timing, I don’t have a clue you can have time to hit the road to Venezuela or not, but look for laziness.

Doesn't roll your explanation.
Telegram, Kompromat 2,0:
Russia signed an agreement to supply China with S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in 2014. China became the first buyer of these weapons. It was reported that China plans to acquire at least six S-400 divisions for a total of $ 400 billion. The first two S-2018 kits were handed over to China in XNUMX.

The next batch of S-400 was sent to China at the end of December 2018. A ship with missiles left Ust-Luga in the Leningrad Region. After a severe storm that damaged part of the cargo (the extent of damage was not disclosed then), the ship's captain decided to return to Russia.

[Nick_R]

There is still a political moment. What if we didn’t really want to fulfill the contract with the Chinese? And here once you and force majeure. They really wanted to, but could not. . .

[rayruav]

it’s strange why deliveries by sea, and not by rail, are they faster and more reliable or is it Western trepidation

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: rayruav

and not by train, because it’s faster and more reliable, or is it Western trepidation

Well, the train is not always faster, and certainly more expensive and the second - the chatter is not western about the ship, but our native

[PSih2097]

Quote: Tiksi-3

Well, the train is not always faster, and for sure expensive

this does not apply to military cargo ...

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: PSih2097

this does not apply to military cargo ...

and also applies to them

[Vasiliev Yu]

Well, the railway is not always faster, and definitely more expensive and the second

I am sure that such a cargo would not have gone to China according to the schedule of the train with the timber. Obviously, they would let him in with priority delivery, there would be a 'green light' all the way, it would come out much faster and cheaper.

[Gray brother]

Start fundraising to search for galleries?
Thought.
And to sweep the tote - who guesses the date of discovery will receive a million euros, you can make a date once every ten days, make one day - 100 euros, two - 200 and so on.
Help with money for a startup)))

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Gray Brother

And to sweep the tote - who guesses the date of discovery will receive a million euros, you can make a date once every ten days, make one day - 100 euros, two - 200 and so on.
Help with money for a startup)))

Are you planning a scam? This is not necessary here, but on non-brotherly resources. They are avid on such topics.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Are you planning a scam?

Yes, I'm just kidding. This is so - thinking out loud)))

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Gray Brother

Yes, I'm just kidding.

Well, so ...

[northern]

gold mines for western intelligence services

After the Turks buy 400 matches, no one will need to dive anywhere.

[spektr9]

If Russia did not lift this cargo from the bottom, then sunken containers with missiles could become "goldfields for Western intelligence services."

So the export version ...
By the way, why were they transported through the English Channel, through the Cape of Good Hope it would be faster

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: spektr9

By the way, why were they transported through the English Channel?

And so that in the "gold mines" the "Western intelligence services" had a fight in half and in half for the "drowned" cargo.

[Vasyan1971]

Some foreign media began to put forward versions ...

Panyatna ....

[awg75]

saw Shura weights, saw, they are gold))))

[Mavrikiy]

Destroy at sea? Off the coast of Albion? Drain.
Destroyed in Russia? Maybe games with China.

[HMR333]

let the clowns swim and seek!

[Rzzz]

These boobies seem to think that such loads on the deck, like firewood, are being carried. Uh guys! Although they are damaged, they still remained in the holds.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: rzzz

These boobies seem to think that such loads on the deck, like firewood, are being carried. Uh guys! Although they are damaged, they still remained in the holds.

If you seem to think that these missiles were not carried in the hold like firewood, and they were damaged there anyway, then why shouldn't the same stevedores and supercargoes place them on the deck. I would not be so confident in this case.

[Rzzz]

Damage to cargo in stormy conditions is a completely natural process. Well, the non-standard load was incorrectly fixed. Nobody really cares about this, the insurance company will conduct a debriefing, if it is obvious that there was no gross negligence, then everything will be compensated. There is no reason to breed a panic.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: rzzz

There is no reason to breed a panic.

There is no panic at all. And insurance companies compensate (let them just try not to compensate).
Wrong secured, say. I was dealing with missiles P-35 (still tube). My job responsibilities included unloading those missiles from containers. I also remember how this rocket was mounted inside the transport container.
If these missiles were transported in the hold, then these containers had to "jump" around the hold like bunnies for the missiles to become unusable.

Quote: rzzz

Nobody really cares about it.

Not surprised.

[Rzzz]

It could rip off one of the cars from the mounts, and she went for a ride on the hold, crashing everything in a row.

And it seems to me there could be such an option. There was no storm, but for some reason it was necessary to replace the rockets. X3 why. In delirium order - it was not the export versions that were shipped, but the Russian ones, and they understood only a couple of days later, when the ship had already passed the KilKanal.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: rzzz

And it seems to me there could be such an option.

I agree that the options can be different. There is no worse thing to do than guessing. The problem is that there has been enough "gullibility" at all times, so many of us (including me) easily believe in this version. Why did you need to voice this problem? What's the goal? I do not know.

[SASHA OLD]

they pulled them together with stronger ropes and threw them on the side on the deck between the bags with the SU-30 and the piles of Russian wood

[Hiss]

What do you mean "drowned"? They are waiting for the order, but while they are resting, they are gaining strength; all of a sudden there is a war, and some are tired .. I wonder how stupid the young women are still fantasizing ..

[Reserve buildbat]

As far as I remember, missiles on the deck were transported only once: the anti-aircraft missile from Cuba. So that mattresses do not wet diapers. After that, the missiles were destroyed as if they had become unusable. With what fright now rockets will be taken on deck? Complete nonsense.

[Vodrak]

No, Lavrov is right, stupid people, ......

[Vodrak]

I wrote DE BEE!

[Cowbra]

Urgently need to hide dill - they have underwater chovens.
But in general - it was quite funny. Nothing that soon these missiles will be officially sold to NATO - Turkey?

[new max]

So they wanted to return it to you, but you refused in view of the inappropriateness of spending energy and money on this trash. Go pick up this antediluvian junk.

[Archivist Vasya]

Yeah, of course, they drowned / were destroyed, so we believed!
These missiles will come up somewhere else in due time, and then they will take off altogether ... well do you understand

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

These rockets will pop up somewhere else in due time

in Venezuela ...

[APASUS]

Again alone highly likely

There is a possibility that the load could not stand and fell from the ship.

What is not an offer, then some masterpieces

If Russia has not lifted this cargo from the bottom

But in principle, it’s normal when ours cannot explain everything plainly, experts from the Pentagon appear instantly and chew everything to everyone.

[Kharkiv]

I think this is a throw-in, so that the P. endos and small-shavens overturn the whole bottom. But there is nothing there and was not) purely mock

[evgen1221]

A muddy story of some kind with a delivery by sea over distant lands. The justification of the cheapness of the sea does not roll, the distance is a healthy swim.

[military pensioner]

1, What kind of cargo carries ON THE DECK ?????? Still on a barge pulled in tow.
2. Why did they ship by ship, when it was faster and cheaper to send containers with missiles by special railway transport by letter level. Moreover, the length of the rocket is 7,5 meters!
3. The amount of the contract for the supply of at least six S-400 systems is over $ 3 billion.
4. The Chemezovskaya company "Rostec" is state-owned. Those. the state spent over $ 3 billion.

The question is for those interested in the topic of sanctions and losses from them - was there a boy ???

[v_velik]

They are on their way to Venezuela already.

[Sergei 777]

The missiles were in export modification. So all the secrets do not exactly come out.
By the way, it would be possible to launch a duck through reconnaissance channels, they say that a couple of missiles fell out of the hold. Let them spend a lot of effort and money on the search for what is not.

[bone1]

Drowned in the English Channel? - look for the flag in your hands

[bang]

encountered "certain problems on deck" during a storm
Debris covered the deck. By the way, you haven’t lost your scout in the west, haven’t you? Our rockets broke about something)

[Nikolaevich I]

But this version seems more plausible to me! The fact is that the reports about the "destruction of S-400 missiles" immediately caused me tremendous bewilderment! Judge for yourself: if the rockets are in the hold, then what does the storm have to do with it (?) ... even if the rockets were on the deck (! ), then how did the "sea water" damage the missiles in the sealed TPK ?! But! Not long before the "rocket event", I watched a movie about racial time ... guild ... and I remember very well the episode how "terribly expensive" pipes intended for some kind of "stream" flew from the deck into the ocean during a storm! Because they were "sloping" secured! In half an hour, a cargo worth tens of millions (if not hundreds ...) disappeared into the depths of the sea ... But even The Drive's version causes considerable bewilderment! Namely: 1. To step repeatedly on the same "rake" is the original national tradition of Rasei? After all, there was "on the face" shortly before this "fact with pipes"! Where were (?) ... where did the representatives of the Moscow Region look (?)? So you have to think: have not sloppiness and irresponsibility (industrial, social, personal ...) become an integral feature of the country, the nation in Russia? If electronic sensors are clogged with a sledgehammer! After all, if you "look" at many of the results of racial lawmaking, then the assumption is born that the deputies wanted to be holier than the pope! Those offenses ... that carelessness that "goes down on the brakes" in Russia are severely punished in "foreign" countries, which, at the same time, "do not forget" to boast of their "democracy" and teach other countries ...
What else will happen in Russia?

[tolmachiev51]

Everything is OK - "this is a secret development of the Russians, the S400 underwater complex. Armed with a" newbie "!!! Beware of small shavens.

[Ildar with]

Honestly, some kind of dregs - to send a cargo by sea which, by railway without any adventures, would reach China and in a short time !!! Or is it a distracting maneuver !!! Or is it such a setup of PAYSEDONS?

[Lieutenant Senior]

Through the English Channel to China? And why not through Zimbabwe?))
The news smacks of frankly.

[Sovpadenie]

Quote: ddmitrij

Surprisingly, the motivated people in five years did not come to the improvement of well-being. Although some individuals came of course, but not all.
So maybe you are not going there?

Take more (given that they have been building their independent state since 1991 - the first simpler empire). About 28 years old

[Roman070280]

Here I am wondering .. Why, not when the emergency itself happened, nor now - nowhere in our media has this been trumpeted ?? Why did Kiselyov, Solovyov and Skobeev in their programs have NEVER touched on this topic ??
All Ukrainian bullshit can be discussed every 12 hours .. and where they themselves have gotten dirty - silence ..

[Zaurbek]

The news sucked from the finger .... destroyed - did not destroy, drowned, did not drown .... It would not have been in the newspaper would have announced about it ...

[Alexey Vasilievich I]

I honestly don’t understand why it was necessary to send such a cargo to China by sea ??? Through the aquatorium of hostile states to us ??? Why not train trains? Both closer and safer.

[ddmitrij]

Quote: Great Combinator

Then tell me, where do people live better, in Russia or Germany?

)))) Every Jew will answer you what is best where they are not.
In general, according to the UN report in 2018, Ukraine occupied the 138 place fortunately. But I am glad that you consider your country successful and happy.

Where is more opportunity to buy a house and a car for a young family, to take a cheap loan?
Yes, anywhere. It all depends on the family itself.
Where are people more educated, humane and educated?
Definitely these are Russian people. When I was in Holland I told the locals their own story about which they know nothing. Humanity and good breeding? You did not drink with the same Germans. I’m generally silent about the Poles.
Are dirty cities and terrible roads in Germany?
Oh yeah. Germany has dirty cities. It is customary to throw cigarette butts and other rubbish directly onto the road. And their roads are terrible. This is their full highway G. Want to see good roads, travel around the Scandinavian countries.
As an example, you have a toll road from Warsaw to Germany. Then the Poles tried
Can residents of Frankfurt or Cologne come to an unauthorized rally if they don’t like something in the actions of their authorities?
Of course they can. Only the chance is great that they will be detained, taken to court and fined. Although they can disperse water cannons with gas. This is not Maidan. There is no ceremony.

And at the expense of dirty, degrading Europe, do not flood. I was in Poland, in Lublin, and I perfectly saw the difference even between their city and mine, between their university and mine. I have something to strive for.
Oh. Well, I have no doubt about that.

In general, all your statements are full of stereotypes about Europe and about Germany in particular. You should get rid of them first. If you stop at home, burn tires, beat and paint walls, then your house will become cleaner. And if you start to work, then in general life can get better.

[Keyser soze]

These magazine do not know what they think. Amer just take the rocket from the Turks and you're done.

[Damask]

Just someone made good money