It became known about the sea tests of the nuclear power plant "Poseidon"

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It became known about the testing of the nuclear power plant of the strategic Russian submarine drone "Poseidon". We are talking about sea trials. This is reported by the TASS news agency, citing a source in the Russian defense industry.

It became known about the sea tests of the nuclear power plant "Poseidon"




The statement says that the nuclear power plant of the Poseidon underwater vehicle fully confirmed its characteristics. In particular, it reports on the ability of nuclear power plants to create all conditions for an unlimited range of a strategic underwater drone when it develops speeds of more than 200 km / h. It was noted that at this speed at depths of up to a kilometer, the apparatus is guaranteed invulnerability from any means of interception.

Earlier it became known that 32 Poseidon strategic submarine unmanned systems will be delivered to the Russian Navy. Such complexes can be equipped with a nuclear warhead, the power of which is up to 2 megatons. This charge can destroy any of the modern military bases fleet the adversary.

In the liberal strata, claims to the "non-ecological" Poseidon are already audible. At the same time, statements are being made to the effect that Russia must “immediately abandon” the deployment of this weapon on combat duty, since it may lead to “nuclear pollution of the World Ocean”.
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  1. +33
    6 February 2019 05: 49
    No complaints about Fukushima?
    1. +45
      6 February 2019 06: 03
      Quote: Theodore
      No complaints about Fukushima?

      Fukushima is democratic radioactivity wassat , and we have totalitarian! So, Fukushima is what Fukushima should be. And in general, everything that Russia does is condemned by the whole world! And what the "exceptional and unique" do is supported by the whole world !.
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 08: 58
        This is not right (bad)! No. It should be exactly the opposite! Yes soldier
      2. +12
        6 February 2019 09: 07
        In liberal layers, claims to the "non-environmental" of "Poseidon" are already heard

        Of course, the star-striped ones will hit us with missiles with nuclear warheads, and they will erase us into a powder very environmentally friendly. Why then do we need ecology on the planet if Russia does not exist? What are the liberals doing? Liberals in Russia, this is what traitors are called in a new way. They did not notice that the word traitor to the motherland hardly sounds; he was replaced by a liberal.
        It’s time for the liberals to take them to clean water!
        1. +3
          6 February 2019 10: 20
          To the wall, or to your native London ....
          1. +4
            6 February 2019 11: 42
            Quote: Alexey-74
            To the wall, or to your native London ....

            London weighs them on scarves and poison them with polonium, a novice dichlorvos, as befits a parasite.
            1. +1
              6 February 2019 17: 15
              Quote: hrych
              London weighs them on scarves and poison them with polonium, a novice dichlorvos, as befits a parasite.

              And ischo, this ..., their women are pregnant with something suddenly, here laughing
              1. +2
                6 February 2019 17: 25
                The traitor’s daughter is not to blame that her dad turned out to be such rubbish. Therefore, let him live, give birth, etc.
            2. +2
              6 February 2019 21: 59
              Yes Yes! What is not healthy London for the traitors of Russia. hi
          2. 0
            7 February 2019 00: 12
            To London, only after the voluntary transfer to the account of Russia of all stolen valuables, since honest purchases are not expected.
        2. +1
          6 February 2019 15: 53
          [quote = krot] [quote] In liberal layers, claims to the "non-environmental friendliness" of Poseidon are already heard [/ quote]
          Of course, the star-striped ones will hit us with missiles with nuclear warheads, and they will erase us into a powder very environmentally friendly. Why then do we need ecology on the planet if Russia does not exist? What are the liberals doing? Liberals in Russia, this is what traitors are called in a new way. They did not notice that the word traitor to the motherland hardly sounds; he was replaced by a liberal.
          It’s time for the liberals to take them to clean water! [/quote]
          I would add, deeper and tying the stone to the neck or legs! good
      3. +1
        6 February 2019 14: 13
        And what about a democratic nuclear submarine and avionoscim and nuclear missiles, they are a model of democratic environmental friendliness?
    2. +10
      6 February 2019 07: 05
      To me, Matrasia now reminds me of the same Koreiko, who at first laughed, then denied, then got irritated, then bargained, then was depressed, but gradually resigned himself to the inevitability. Omerikanskih leaders are in a difficult stage of "ACCEPTANCE", we are watching the eventsgood... The entire coastal military and civilian infrastructure of the two coasts with half the population of the "city on the hill" can be washed away and destroyed in the blink of an eye - hard to accept for "exceptional" crookssmile.
      1. -3
        6 February 2019 16: 23
        Are you sure that - "The entire coastal military and civilian infrastructure of the two coasts and half of the population of the" city on the hill "can be washed away and destroyed in the blink of an eye." In general, I doubt it. They will not destroy their own!
        1. -2
          7 February 2019 01: 14
          Standard sketch, let's try again)
          1. -2
            7 February 2019 14: 28
            Written "Traveler" correctly. I agree, the will of our kings may not be enough, this time. Two - there is a charge of only 2 megatons (by the way, hello to local marshals, who have recently assured us that there are 100 megatons), such a charge will not be enough to destroy all the coasts.
            1. 0
              8 February 2019 00: 33
              Stop fantasizing, it was officially announced about 50 megatons and about 2 megatons and about 100 megatons, so the average, as they say, is in the middle. And dozens of "Poseidons" (and there will be at least 32 pieces) will undoubtedly wipe the Indian Coop from the face of the Earth, along with all its inhabitants. And what and who there "may not have enough will" - it's just your whining and fantasies. Everything is logical, we will incinerate them faster and more thoroughly, therefore Mattress begins to piss with boiling water, giving the back.
    3. +19
      6 February 2019 07: 27
      Quote: Theodore
      No complaints about Fukushima?

      What a bite. Won the Englishman all his life dumped radioactive water into the sea and what?
      And they are liberals, yes.
      1. +3
        6 February 2019 09: 48
        Quote: 1810BM86
        And they are liberals, yes.


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        good Bravo! One of the best comments I've seen on VO !!! drinks
    4. +5
      6 February 2019 08: 00
      In the liberal strata, claims to the "non-environmental" of Poseidon are already heard.

      Not an environmental nuclear explosion ?! Something new...
      1. +6
        6 February 2019 08: 18
        Demanding environmental friendliness from such weapons is the same as demanding a war without casualties. The main thing is that the capabilities guaranteed by a nuclear installation make it possible to reliably deliver a nuclear charge to a given target. hi
        1. +2
          6 February 2019 12: 43
          Quote: bessmertniy
          Demanding environmental friendliness from such weapons is the same as demanding a war without casualties.

          About environmental friendliness - this is the height of idiocy, given that the world's most important players are armed with nuclear submarines, mattresses have aircraft carriers, and we have TARK.
          1. 0
            7 February 2019 09: 27
            Quote: NEXUS
            About environmental friendliness - this is the height of idiocy, given that the armament of the world's most important players has nuclear submarines, mattresses are aircraft carriers,

            And they also seem to have dropped at least three thermonuclear bombs by accident, and outside their territory request
            1. +1
              7 February 2019 12: 26
              Quote: victor50
              And they also seem to have dropped at least three thermonuclear bombs by accident, and outside their territory

              Everyone is modestly silent about the nuclear waste in the Arctic, which the mattresses buried there.
      2. -1
        6 February 2019 09: 55
        Quote: figvam
        In the liberal strata, claims to the "non-environmental" of Poseidon are already heard.

        Not an environmental nuclear explosion ?! Something new...

        I think at least 300 megatons of Poseidon explosion power, they just don’t want to upset partners ahead of time. Yes, and what are carriers with an unlimited range. Right in the US they say that they are Doomsday weapons.
        1. 0
          6 February 2019 12: 39
          Quote: new max
          I think at least 300 megatons of Poseidon explosion power, they just do not want to upset partners ahead of time.

          Trim sturgeon, dear. Which 300 MT? Poseidon in the first place is not a dumb torpedo, but an unmanned mini-submarine. We have a wild quantitative superiority of the SSBN to multi-purpose submarines. At the same time, there are many more strategists on mattresses, and on each of them there are from 4 to 20 ICBMs. To level such a gap, building on one multipurpose nuclear submarine in 10 years will not work. I am sure that Poseidon is sharpened as a Hunter for the adversary’s SSBN, as well as to destroy ship formations, including the AUG. And for these purposes 2Mt Poseidon is enough for the eyes. Well, there is no way to iron the shore without Poseidon, starting with all kinds of different ICBMs, ending with Vanguard, and in the future Petrel.
          1. 0
            6 February 2019 12: 48
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: new max
            I think at least 300 megatons of Poseidon explosion power, they just do not want to upset partners ahead of time.

            Trim sturgeon, dear. Which 300 MT? Poseidon in the first place is not a dumb torpedo, but an unmanned mini-submarine. We have a wild quantitative superiority of the SSBN to multi-purpose submarines. At the same time, there are many more strategists on mattresses, and on each of them there are from 4 to 20 ICBMs. To level such a gap, building on one multipurpose nuclear submarine in 10 years will not work. I am sure that Poseidon is sharpened as a Hunter for the adversary’s SSBN, as well as to destroy ship formations, including the AUG. And for these purposes 2Mt Poseidon is enough for the eyes. Well, there is no way to iron the shore without Poseidon, starting with all kinds of different ICBMs, ending with Vanguard, and in the future Petrel.

            What hunter? Well, if only without special units, with the usual warhead. And so is the insurance against the American missile defense. An argument in the 3rd world for which the Americans have nothing. The development of the topic is still Sakharov. This is the Doomsday weapon. And in the USA they know. then we live in peace.
            1. +1
              6 February 2019 12: 56
              Quote: new max
              What hunter? Well, if only without special units, with the usual warhead

              Did you study well what Poseidon claimed by our Defense Ministry? It says that Poseidon can be used with both a BCH and a simple charge (NOT NUCLEAR). 2Mt just inevitably hit inaccuracies.
              At the same time, taking into account the fact that Poseidon (according to the statement of the Ministry of Defense) is able to independently bypass dangerous areas for itself, we can confidently say that this is not a simple torpedo. And given its size, I’m sure it is stuffed with equipment, thanks to which it can not only destroy targets, but also conduct reconnaissance.
              1. 0
                6 February 2019 13: 10
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: new max
                What hunter? Well, if only without special units, with the usual warhead

                Did you study well what Poseidon claimed by our Defense Ministry? It says that Poseidon can be used with both a BCH and a simple charge (NOT NUCLEAR). 2Mt just inevitably hit inaccuracies.
                At the same time, taking into account the fact that Poseidon (according to the statement of the Ministry of Defense) is able to independently bypass dangerous areas for itself, we can confidently say that this is not a simple torpedo. And given its size, I’m sure it is stuffed with equipment, thanks to which it can not only destroy targets, but also conduct reconnaissance.

                Well, at the expense of intelligence, it’s unlikely. There are other underwater vehicles for this, without a nuclear engine. It’s like the Strategic Caliber, only underwater and of special power. Yes, and the Strategic Range speaks of its function more like an underwater ICBM of special catastrophic power for its intended purpose as an underwater Sarmatian .
                1. +2
                  6 February 2019 13: 25
                  Quote: new max
                  Well, at the expense of intelligence is unlikely

                  From what? So a 50 kg drone is capable of reconnaissance, but a "fool" under 30 meters is not?
                  Quote: new max
                  It's like a Strategic Caliber, only underwater and of special power

                  I have said more than once that the work of Poseidon along the coast is stupid. By the time he comes to this coast, everything will be melted there from the ICBMs, who will arrive there much earlier. I am convinced that Poseidon is taught to work on moving naval targets. Speed ​​gives him the opportunity to catch up with ANY sea target, and the depth of immersion, provides invulnerability and minimal detection. This is the perfect hunter.
                  Remember the submarine Lear. It was capable of diving at that time at 600 meters, and accelerated in normal mode to the 41 node, which gave it, coupled with phenomenal maneuverability, the ability to get away from any torpedo. So Poseidon, this is an unmanned analogue of the very Lyra, given their tasks.
                  1. -2
                    6 February 2019 13: 38
                    Poseidon has its own functions. It is a Doomsday weapon. Like an ICBM. The task is to cause tsunamis of special power on Doomsday and to wash off the coast. Point.
                    1. 0
                      6 February 2019 13: 42
                      Quote: new max
                      Poseidon has its own functions. It is a Doomsday weapon. Like an ICBM. The task is to cause tsunamis of special power on Doomsday and to wash off the coast. Point.

                      You do not write nonsense. What is the tsunami from a charge in 2Mt?
                      I repeat, in comparison with ICBMs, Poseidon is slow-moving. When he comes to the shore of the enemy, everything will be done there by the previously arrived ICBMs. Why the Poseidon to fuck the already dead shore?
                      The question is, what is more important for us, to hammer along the enemy’s coast, or to destroy the SSBN with the 20 ICBM on board the adversary?
                      1. -2
                        6 February 2019 14: 00
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: new max
                        Poseidon has its own functions. It is a Doomsday weapon. Like an ICBM. The task is to cause tsunamis of special power on Doomsday and to wash off the coast. Point.

                        You do not write nonsense. What is the tsunami from a charge in 2Mt?
                        I repeat, in comparison with ICBMs, Poseidon is slow-moving. When he comes to the shore of the enemy, everything will be done there by the previously arrived ICBMs. Why the Poseidon to fuck the already dead shore?
                        The question is, what is more important for us, to hammer along the enemy’s coast, or to destroy the SSBN with the 20 ICBM on board the adversary?

                        300 megatons charge. They don’t want to upset the partners in the official version, so that they would be calmer. They say therefore 2 Mt. The fact is that the latest CRs have the same charge power. Compare the sizes of the head part of the CR and Poseidon.
                      2. -2
                        6 February 2019 14: 03
                        Poseidon is slow-moving, but it is invisible and not vulnerable, which is hard to say about ICBMs. And it doesn’t matter 40 minutes or a day, the main result, the result. Poseidon is more powerful than any ICBMs.
                      3. +1
                        6 February 2019 14: 05
                        Quote: new max
                        Charge under 300 megatons. They do not want to upset the partners in the official version, so that they feel calmer.

                        Have you seriously written this now?
                        Quote: new max
                        The fact is that on the latest CDs the same charge power.

                        This is from what a binge?
                        Quote: new max
                        Compare the dimensions of the head of the KR and Poseidon.

                        Why compare it? There are some parameters of Poseidon and those are not exact, but ... for example, the Caliber has 7,5 meters in length, but Poseidon is of the order of 24-30 meters. So what are we going to compare?
                      4. -1
                        6 February 2019 14: 20
                        Sizes of warheads. Their volumes. Don’t believe it, okay. I still won’t prove to you what you don’t want to believe.
                      5. +2
                        6 February 2019 20: 14
                        a respected 300mt warhead is at least redundant, and you simply suffer from gigantomania;
                      6. -1
                        6 February 2019 20: 24
                        Watching for what purposes. For the Doomsday weapon and Sakharov’s theme it’s the most. I don’t suffer from anything. Do not fantasize.
                      7. +2
                        6 February 2019 20: 26
                        you take these 300mt in a cobalt shell and explode it absolutely wherever you want and get a lifeless ball called Earth, meaning bother with the carrier?!?!
                      8. 0
                        7 February 2019 09: 40
                        Ah, I already remembered Stanley Kubrick's film "Doctor Strangelove or how I stopped worrying and fell in love with the atomic bomb." I recommend for viewing to everyone who has not seen)
                      9. -1
                        7 February 2019 14: 34
                        More than 20 comments above, this is pure passion in ward number 6.
    5. +4
      6 February 2019 09: 03
      Fukushima shit more than half of the Pacific Ocean - 10 times (minimum) more dangerous than Chernobyl !!! belay And the most important no one talks about it, like "the main" we have Chernobyl, and Fukushima is so ... belay
      1. +2
        6 February 2019 09: 55
        Quote: keeper03
        Fukushima shit more than half of the Pacific Ocean - 10 times (minimum) more dangerous than Chernobyl !!! belay And the most important no one talks about it, like "the main" we have Chernobyl, and Fukushima is so ... belay

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        Well, so the "Old Astronomer" has already given a clear definition (not literally): "Cherrnobyl is totalitarian ecological disaster, and Fikushima - "a democratic!! "(Ie -" with full observance of all humanitarian norms and universal values ​​"!) wassat laughing
  2. +12
    6 February 2019 05: 49
    In the liberal strata, claims to the "non-ecological" Poseidon are already audible. At the same time, statements are being made to the effect that Russia must “immediately abandon” the deployment of this weapon on combat duty, since it may lead to “nuclear pollution of the World Ocean”.

    What progress in thinking and talk about Putin’s cartoons also ceased ... soon in these layers they will start talking about the non-environmental friendliness of the Vanguards and Dagger.
    Everything is naturally moving towards the West’s desire with the awareness of the danger looming on their heads to conclude a new disarmament treaty with Russia ... the liberal strata, as always, are probing the borders of this treaty starting with the environment.
    1. +8
      6 February 2019 07: 31
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      What progress in thinking and talk about Putin’s cartoons also ceased ... soon in these layers they will start talking about the non-environmental friendliness of the Vanguards and Dagger.

      The dog breres - the caravan goes on.
    2. -1
      6 February 2019 10: 01
      Quote: The same Lech
      In the liberal strata, claims to the "non-ecological" Poseidon are already audible. At the same time, statements are being made to the effect that Russia must “immediately abandon” the deployment of this weapon on combat duty, since it may lead to “nuclear pollution of the World Ocean”.

      What progress in thinking and talk about Putin’s cartoons also ceased ... soon in these layers they will start talking about the non-environmental friendliness of the Vanguards and Dagger.
      Everything is naturally moving towards the West’s desire with the awareness of the danger looming on their heads to conclude a new disarmament treaty with Russia ... the liberal strata, as always, are probing the borders of this treaty starting with the environment.

      And I think everything is exactly the opposite. The conspiracy of Russia and the United States to get rid of the INF Treaty and to free the United States hands in Southeast Asia, and Russia in Europe. A systematic and well-balanced decision on both sides. 9m729 most likely is the ground Caliber, but with the BMBM everything is much more interesting.
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 20: 18
        it was taught in Soviet kindergartens that children are divided, and America needs peace, and preferably all ... there can’t be any collusion
        1. 0
          6 February 2019 20: 31
          The interests coincided tactically. The strategic goals of no one have changed.
          1. 0
            6 February 2019 20: 39
            Quote: new max
            The interests coincided tactically. The strategic goals of no one have changed.

            as with the alleged power of the drone announced by you, I think you see something that does not exist.
            1. America really would not be in the way of medium-range missiles in the Pacific theater of operations.
            2. Russia already has its hands free in Europe because the small missile ships "Buyam-M, Karakurt" are essentially river / sea-class ships, that is, they can safely sail along the Danube and launch missiles :)
            3. You remind me of my Latvian friends; I myself am from there; when they told me about the Iskander in Kaliningrad, I reassured them that it was not against Latvia because there are enough of those in the Leningrad region against Latvia.
            1. 0
              6 February 2019 22: 14
              And I reassure my friends of Latvians by simply asking to find significant military objects worthy of defeat with expensive weapons on the map of Latvia.
              1. 0
                7 February 2019 00: 40
                hatchery ?! cast a joke, funny
                1. 0
                  7 February 2019 01: 27
                  No, there are several warehouses, three ports, one decent airfield, a training ground in Adazi, and some other little things. Almost no serious. hi
                  1. 0
                    7 February 2019 01: 33
                    you see, but you almost infringed on the pride of the little grumpy people on the shores of the Baltic Sea :)
                    1. 0
                      7 February 2019 01: 41
                      So they have something to be proud of! One of the best in the clearance of minefields both on land and at sea. A relative, a Latvian, serves as a minesweeper; last year, again, for training purposes, they discovered several old sea mines and destroyed them. So, slowly, and clean up the Baltic. smile
  3. +16
    6 February 2019 05: 51
    "Russia must" immediately abandon "the placement of these weapons on alert, as they can lead to" nuclear pollution of the oceans. "

    It’s like in a famous question asked by a famous radio: please tell me how to find a toilet after a nuclear explosion, in response, first find your ass. smile
    1. +7
      6 February 2019 05: 57
      Liberoids! What can I take from them? Talk about the environmental friendliness of nuclear weapons? Well, it's funny and sad. How did you rightly notice where to look for them after hours?
  4. +2
    6 February 2019 05: 52
    More than 200 km / h, it could be 400 km / h! But actually, in vain so much information about Poseidon is issued! It was as if they deliberately decided to make a combat vehicle available for discussion out of secret weapons! !! You look at that, and its blueprints will be declassified, and put up for discussion! !! negative
    1. +10
      6 February 2019 05: 56
      Very well, the Colt brought to their temple affects the minds of Western politicians ... they begin to grow wise right away ... keep it up.
    2. +5
      6 February 2019 05: 59
      Advertising move? hibut rather an occasion for potentials to think, is it worth going to us?
    3. +7
      6 February 2019 06: 01
      Let them lay it out ... I, too, can lay out my secret drawings of Poseidon for the sake of such a thing ... I will draw something on the paper sheet of the sub-googles after a week of drinking, let them unscramble it.
    4. +2
      6 February 2019 06: 58
      To avoid data leakage and provocation, you need to answer in Putin's way:
      -What happens to Poseidon's sea trials?
      -They are underway.
      And enough of them.
    5. 0
      6 February 2019 22: 17
      The meaning of such weapons is not in secret use, but in non-use when explaining in detail to the enemy the consequences of the blow and the inevitability of causing unacceptable damage. hi
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  5. +5
    6 February 2019 05: 57
    In the liberal strata, claims to the "non-environmental" of Poseidon are already heard.

    Does this mean a power plant or a charge? If it’s a power plant, then the nuclear submarine is also at risk, if it’s a charge, then there’s a claim to everyone with nuclear weapons. To make claims, so everyone, gentlemen are preoccupied.
    1. +13
      6 February 2019 06: 05
      Dear Mikhail, do you think these will distinguish the charge from the power plant? The owner said to yap, they barked.
      1. +4
        6 February 2019 06: 14
        Yeah, everything that is nuclear is already scary for them. And if we mention the hadron collider, then there will be no limit to horror.
      2. +3
        6 February 2019 07: 37
        Quote: Phil77
        Dear Mikhail, do you think these will distinguish the charge from the power plant? The owner said to yap, they barked.

        No matter how our children are taught in schools to howl in unison .. Gref said aloud, like, “don’t scare me how you will manage millions of the population if they have information.” And no one interrupted him.
  6. +8
    6 February 2019 06: 18
    In the liberal strata already heard claims to the "non-environmental" of Poseidon.

    ... aha, it’s been through already ... laughing
  7. +6
    6 February 2019 06: 25
    --- "... can lead to" nuclear pollution of the oceans "" - Naturally, after the exchange of nuclear strikes, not only the grass does not grow. And when the states worried about something positive? - just an ordinary toad, oh, how it strangles.
  8. +3
    6 February 2019 06: 30
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Very well, the Colt brought to their temple affects the minds of Western politicians ... they begin to grow wise right away ... keep it up.

    With a good word, much can be achieved ... But with a good word and a revolver - much more. (words, ambiguously, ascribe to Al Capone)
    1. +4
      6 February 2019 07: 18
      But he said beautifully, a robber! laughing
  9. +3
    6 February 2019 08: 50
    Russia should “immediately refuse” to put this weapon on alert, as it could lead to “nuclear pollution of the oceans”

    Well, what does the pollution of the oceans have to do with it? It will certainly be there, but when? In case of using "Poseidon". Do not lead to sin, do not run up and you will have a clean ocean.
  10. +2
    6 February 2019 08: 51
    Now we are waiting for internal migration in the states ... away from the coasts ... the farther from the coast the safer :))
    1. 0
      6 February 2019 22: 22
      ???? Have you already abandoned the Sarmatians, Vanguards, Caliber, Petrels and other land delivery vehicles? belay
  11. +2
    6 February 2019 08: 51
    Russia should “immediately abandon” the deployment of these weapons on combat duty, as they can lead to “nuclear pollution of the oceans”.
    After tests of nuclear weapons on the Bikini Islands, the world's oceans were just polluted, but no one is indignant.
  12. BAI
    +2
    6 February 2019 09: 08
    Earlier it became known that 32 Poseidon strategic submarine unmanned systems will be delivered to the Russian Navy.

    And now
    It became known about testing the nuclear power plant of the strategic Russian submarine drone Poseidon.

    Ie it was decided to adopt equipment that did not pass all the tests? And if the development does not pass them?
    1. 0
      6 February 2019 22: 24
      Will be delivered - this is in the future, immediately after adoption. hi
  13. +5
    6 February 2019 09: 15
    Wash it all said
  14. +4
    6 February 2019 10: 44
    In the picture, under the guise of "Poseidon" each time they show some kind of "left" apparatus, clearly created not at all for high speeds (the contours are not the same), but on the contrary for very good maneuvering (steering columns and screws in the shafts in the bow), which for the transatlantic apparatus, in general, it is redundant.
    200 km / h is the same hypersound for water. Any device with such a speed simply will not reach the United States - it will be washed off on the water. In one of the first nuclear-powered submarines (at a much lower speed), after the first voyage, all protruding rivet heads (titanium, by the way) turned out to be "licked" with water, flush with the hull.
    In addition, this speed cannot be achieved with screws (theoretical speed limit with screws is 150 km / h).
    The "Shkval" option also does not channel - it is too noisy (although it can, of course, be realized with a nuclear reactor if you figure out how to replace cavitators washed off by water along the way, and how to protect your navigation equipment from this noise). Arguments flashed, like, let them hear - they still won't catch up ... But, in this case, it's still not clear - is it an attack weapon, or a weapon of retaliation? If the attacks (when the enemy still has everything), then the device will still be intercepted - with the same nuclear explosion in the open ocean (where the deep-sea tracking stations are poked by the Americans - the coordinates, speed and direction are not a problem to calculate). And if - retribution, then it's actually not so much ...
    There is, however, another option (much quieter than all the others) - a propeller based on the induction principle, when the role of the rod in the coil is played by water (a kind of continuous "railgun"). They tried to implement it back in the 70s of the last century. But in those days, in order to achieve a speed comparable to propellers, it was necessary to make superconducting coils (liquid helium in one case, next to a hot nuclear reactor - a very dubious neighborhood) - this was, not only very expensive, but also very cumbersome ... Maybe something has changed since then. About 20 years ago, ours were "ahead of the rest of the planet" in "hot" (liquid nitrogen - the same bow, only in profile) superconductivity. But the problem with the "emery cloth" (water at such speeds) has not been canceled ...
    Thus, it appears that this very "Poseidon" has very little chance of real existence, but was just one of the "advertising posters" in the elections ...
    At least let these PR people at least replace the picture of the "suitcase" that they give out for "Poseidon", since that device is unlikely to be able to give even 20 km / h (judging by the contours and screws - no more than 10-12 km / h) ... Let, as usual, at least draw a cartoon. I suggest: an elongated ("length runs") spindle-shaped body, absolutely without any protruding parts (including, without screws and rudders).
    1. Fat
      +1
      6 February 2019 11: 47
      Quote: whowhy
      an induction mover, when the role of the rod in the coil is played by water (a kind of continuous "railgun"). They tried to implement it back in the 70s of the last century.

      The inverted MHD generator is called the MHD pump.
      When an electric voltage is applied to the electrodes, a force will act on the electrically conductive medium, like a conductor with a current in a magnetic field. This force can be used to pump conductive liquids and gases.
  15. +1
    6 February 2019 13: 15
    Instead of really necessary types of weapons, for example, the Su-30 for naval aviation and new anti-submarine aircraft, new nuclear submarines, we have a mega-sawed dough on the old Soviet "theme", which was abandoned in the USSR. Now they got it out of the dusty archives and without being able to come up with something on their own they push it into the Navy under the guise of "having no analogues." Status-6 is a stupid large torpedo with nuclear warheads, which still needs to be brought to the launch site on a special boat, after launch it goes to the target at high speed, but it makes a lot of noise, it cannot swim slowly and quietly due to its design, there is no intelligence on it, there is nowhere to install advanced acoustic reconnaissance means and there is no need (because of the noise of the torpedo itself when moving at high speed), there is no person who would process the received signals ...
    That's why you need it? Ballistic missile nuclear submarines will do the job better and cheaper; Tu-160 or a nuclear submarine with a pack of cruise missiles will do better and cheaper.
    Cut for the sake of cutting. I wang that the money will be sawed, and then the "Kiselevs" will tell us what we did not need
  16. +1
    6 February 2019 14: 24
    What?! Again?!
    Instead of the name of the author I read:
    Photos used: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    Instead of a photograph, I see a frame from the cartoon, which depicts "Harpsichord".
    The news about the "submersion of the power plant to the depth" was back in December. Now from "diving to the depth" passed to "sea trials" of EI.
    There can be no mention of any sea trials yet. So why are they leaking this meaningless information? Is it because the "liberal strata" have begun to give voice?
    By the way, I have never been an adherent of liberal economics, unlike Vladimir Putin, who was and remains in power all his life. And earlier it was customary to call the supporters of the liberal economy "liberals". I believe that some pseudo-patriots have their brains jammed, so they began to call everyone who does not like today's "sovereign" liberal economy of Russia liberals. Oh, okay. Even if you call it a pot, GDP still hasn't grown by 2,3%. Otherwise, a reasonable question will arise: Where did one trillion rubles go?
  17. 0
    6 February 2019 14: 32
    Well, you need to put Poseidon on each AUG of the USA and use it at the same time at hour X. I am sure that the Defense Ministry will do just that, you can even do this on purpose intentionally. Crews of minke whales should know there in the depths of Poseidon constantly follows him !!!
    1. 0
      6 February 2019 15: 55
      Quote: Е2 - Е4
      Well needed to put Poseidon on each AUG of the USA and at hour X to use simultaneously. I am sure that the Defense Ministry will do just that, you can even do this on purpose intentionally. Crews of minke whales should know there in the depths of it is constantly followed by Poseidon !!!

      and it will be so!
  18. +1
    6 February 2019 15: 54
    Quote: krot
    In liberal layers, claims to the "non-environmental" of "Poseidon" are already heard

    Of course, the star-striped ones will hit us with missiles with nuclear warheads, and they will erase us into a powder very environmentally friendly. Why then do we need ecology on the planet if Russia does not exist? What are the liberals doing? Liberals in Russia, this is what traitors are called in a new way. They did not notice that the word traitor to the motherland hardly sounds; he was replaced by a liberal.
    It’s time for the liberals to take them to clean water!

    I would add, deeper and tying the stone to the neck or legs! negative
  19. 0
    6 February 2019 20: 54
    Thanks to our designers and workers and to everyone who creates the sewn Russia-the basis of our sovereignty.
  20. 0
    6 February 2019 21: 16
    with a speed of more than 200 km / h
    at such speeds it will be so roaring that its sonar will be heard for hundreds of kilometers
    1. 0
      6 February 2019 22: 32
      And the object will be lost against the background of a numerous echo! smile hi
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 23: 11
        and our developers are stupid - submarines are doing quieter and quieter, and they don’t know that everything is much easier, let them roar louder
        And the object will be lost against the background of a numerous echo!

        laughing
        1. 0
          7 February 2019 01: 24
          And boats have long been found along the pop-up wake trail, with magnetometers you know they fly at sea, and in Russia absolutely silent circulation pumps for cooling the reactor have been produced for a hundred years now and in the water column, ethereal shadows glide along magnetic lines. Diesel submarines created by your developers are very quiet, but not nuclear. Too much noisy equipment around the reactors is piled up.
  21. -1
    6 February 2019 22: 53
    the problem is not the warhead, nor the reactor.
    problem in the control system.
    they have never done anything of this kind, and they have not carried out tests.
    whether it will sail back to Murmansk somewhere, even its creators cannot say, until there are sufficient test data for statistical analysis.
    and there is no reason to believe that such tests were carried out
    1. 0
      7 February 2019 00: 14
      Quote: Avior
      problem in the control system.
      they have never done anything of this kind, and they have not carried out tests.
      whether it’s sailing back to Murmansk somewhere, even its creators cannot say,

      Finally, at least someone expressed a reasonable idea.
      I can offer you two links:
      The first to the concept of an underwater cargo drone, to which he wrote a review of the Central Research Institute to them. Krylova:
      http://sfts-1500.narod.ru (это 2005 год)
      The second link to my business plan "Polar Route", which involved the creation of not only an experimental drone, but also a pilot production of underwater drones for a total amount of 200 million rubles, with the possibility of returning this money (because this promo project is an advertising one). The latest version was: a strong case - plastic pipes (there is a calculation, there is an opportunity, and there is a willingness to start winding - everything is there, and the light case is wood and a little metal). Therefore, such a low price.
      https://yadi.sk/i/P0vzoXEvnegD9g
      Experts know about the problems, but are silent. A "quack" (not mine, but I agree) all sorts of - waving flags.
      But by the way, (to have a fun, so to have a fun) I will give one more time (I have already given on this resource) and a link to the "History of attack underwater drones ..." https://yadi.sk/i/NW6oDlkFcYGerg
      Today everyone is so smart, and in 2000 someone spread his fingers out of bursting importance, and called it all stupid.
      1. -2
        7 February 2019 00: 44
        the main problem of creating such an autonomous underwater drone today is not its design or propulsion, but the control system. It simply does not exist, in any case, one that can be entrusted with at least some warhead, and even more so a nuclear one.
        it is not known where she will lead her.
        1. 0
          7 February 2019 11: 57
          Quote: Avior
          It simply does not exist, in any case, one that can be entrusted with at least some warhead, and even more so a nuclear one.

          I understand what you are talking about, but I do not quite understand why you repeated it. Yes, there is no navigation system for Poseidon today. On the other hand, why talk about any kind of trust in the "dead hand"? The dead don't care about trust. Don't go to extremes. Oddly enough, the 1999 version of the underwater attack drone concept is the most optimal. There was no need to be smart in 2015, but it should have been done quietly and calmly, as it was originally proposed. Do, not trend. The fact is that now it will be much more difficult to do.
          PR managers like Rogozin should not be allowed to engage in defense projects for a cannon shot. And here, ironically, it was the PR man who led the defense industry. He hung himself with scientific degrees, like Brezhnev stars, and broke the wood.
          Underwater drones are needed, and strike, and patrol, and cargo. That's just to do everything you need to competently, and not illiterate trend.
  22. 0
    7 February 2019 00: 30
    It would be better if they ditched so much money and efforts on the methods of treating oncology, from which 270 000 people officially died in Russia annually (I don’t say about grandmothers in villages who are buried without autopsy, there might also be cancer, so the numbers will be even higher ) over 10 years, 3 million people dying of cancer in the country, in Afghanistan over the same 10 years, 15 people were lost killed, is there a difference? and you can now finally understand the priorities, or until you see IT and realize despair from a loved one, will that be all ...?
  23. 0
    7 February 2019 12: 42
    For a torpedo with nuclear weapons, unlimited range and without the ability to destroy it does not need a carrier. You can run directly from Vilyuchinsk.
    The carrier is needed to complement Poseidon with a conventional warhead reconnaissance and target designation system. Destroy AUGs.
  24. 0
    8 February 2019 12: 21
    I wonder by what principle Poseidon’s navigation system is arranged? Probably inertial? In principle, it would be possible to install the same navigation system on an earth moving machine. Plus a nuclear power reactor and a hydrogen warhead. And in case of war, launch them towards the enemy. How do you guys idea?