Buggy in the Russian army - is there a practical benefit?

In recent years, both in the world and in Russia, the emergence of a large number of quite unusual weapons. One of them, of course, is the SUV buggy. This machine is hardly typical for the Russian army.

Buggy can not be attributed to the car or to the ATV, it does not have armor, air conditioning and a stove. It may seem strange and ridiculous to someone to have such a device in service with the Russian army. But this vehicle has high maneuverability and other advantages.

Buggies are actively used in the US Army for patrolling in desert terrain and conducting combat operations. These SUVs, with a strong frame and high traffic, are in service with several countries. Not BMP and not armored personnel carriers, but occupy their niche.

In Russia, they are just beginning to show interest in this car. Today, buggies are already in service with the Special Purpose Center of the FSB and the Rosguard and have successfully passed tests in the mountains of the North Caucasus and in the Arctic. Together with the Russian armed forces, the authors of the program “Military Acceptance” on the Zvezda channel decided to take a closer look at this unusual military SUV. Published video “Military acceptance. “Buggy. An SUV that came down from the mountains ”, which will answer the question about the practical benefits of a buggy in our army.

Comments

[Strashila]

I think Willys from the Second World War didn’t have any frills, so the buggy has a predecessor that has passed more than one war.

[Well, how else]

Hooray breakthrough ... We go around the world and we will. Manky see, Manky doo. Or here it is much more commonplace. Now, every factory will cut the army budget. And where on TVD to ride it? Introduced the company of these shooters bugs on the march. The column will be half a kilometer. Any Meser crumbles easy.

[Cowbra]

There is such a thing - wind-cold index. In a buggy at a temperature around -30, and if it travels at a speed of 45 km / h, this is the way, if there is a calm calm around, the inside temperature is -50. Almost guaranteed to freeze. In the United States, there are only deserts in the country, especially on the border along which is the only one they need to patrol, Canada - consider the 51st state, they only need patrols near Mexico. And here, near Orenburg, it seems like in the south, it’s easy to embed an oak tree while standing, not like driving in an open refrigerator.
To specials. perhaps needed. How many of those specialists? So these buggies - since they are needed at all, then there in piece quantities

[Klingon]

and how do you ride snowmobiles? or install a force field around ?? Well, or damn it, do not ride a buggy in Orenburg. It is intended for Krasnodar, Stavropol and the Caucasus

[Alexander X]

Better to go bad than to go

[Nick_R]

These machines are definitely needed. They allow you to quickly move a serious payload. They can be installed quite serious weapons such as automatic grenade launchers. At the same time, fighters can be equipped with high-class personal protection. If you want, modern heavy cavalry.
It is unlikely that future military conflicts will have the character of a positional war. Under these conditions, speed is paramount.

[Qwertyarion]

You can also introduce bicycles with a motor into the army and electric scooters with scooters.
Particularly effective use will be in the winter in the forest, in Siberia and the Urals!
One nuance, but how is the problem with the freezing nozzles of a motorcycle cavalryman solved when driving at -30 C?

[donavi49]

Plagiarism! Already entered by other special forces!

[donavi49]

And about Moped technology is actively running in right now in Venezuela. And quite effective. Where there is no desire to build a phalanx-turtle and 1 is knocked on 1 with protesters. MopedoOMON will solve the problem.

[Klingon]

are you laughing? but the Swiss Gebirgsjäger ride with special mountain bikes on the alps, so I don’t need it and I wind up the 120 km mountain tours myself and I can say you can drive where nothing else will pass and everything is better than lugging around on a pawn

[Fevralsk. Morev]

As for bicycles with a motor, this is in Rosnano. Their element.

[polar fox]

a normal thing for their purposes ... for now, it’s good for Rospil, and they’ll come up with it. Maybe they’ll make awards, with engraving. And they will hand over especially gifted (like a junior Sechin).

[Fevralsk. Morev]

That's right. If the buggy is for special forces, then this machine must overcome water obstacles and trenches. And the time of motorcycle regiments is over. Like cavalry with carts. The machine is highly specialized. I doubt that the wheeled all-terrain vehicle can crawl over snow more than a meter high, along the swamp bump. In our Far East, hunters chase snowmobiles without any conditions without any conditions ... that is, a heater.

[donavi49]

So it is applicable rather on other theater (foreign). The Americans were actively riding buggies in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Syria, not really, simply because, TOYOTA = this is the best war machine!

[donavi49]

Well, the real discovery of recent wars is Pickups. Which can collapse regular armies with local tanks. They can make raids to such depths and with such speed - that a regular army of locals with tanks simply cannot control them. At the same time reliable. They require little fuel (they can live on the pasture, so to speak - to merge, say, 100 liters for Toyota is another raid, for the Tank it will cough up and go to position + ride a little).

[your1970]

Quote: donavi49

Which can collapse regular armies with local tanks. They can make raids to such depths and with such speed - that a regular army of locals with tanks simply cannot control them.

- you yourself wrote the main word in these sentences - "LOCAL armies. "These gatherings - NOT are armies in the normal sense, and are crowds of armed men. A crowd that is unable to organize - normal patrols, normal checkpoints and normal guard duty - regular an army is not, whatever you call it: "Free", "Liberation", etc.
This is exactly what Israel regularly demonstrated in its time ....

On a desert flat as a table, in a sector where there are obviously no people of their own - a jihadmobile rides, rides for a long time - everyone manages to shout, then start shooting, then run in circles, shoot again and only after that he comes and explodes. And this, in the presence of at least a tank, ZUShka and several units of riflemen ... is generally incapable of conducting organized fire .........

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Can pickups collapse armies with tanks? And why, when all of Russia took part in the conflict in Syria, those who promptly cut across the desert on Toyota collapsed? Everyone saw the footage on which our combat helicopter turned on .... (well, you understand) a pickup truck with barmaley. Against modern technology controlled by SMART, trained and motivated personnel, partisan formations have no chance of surviving on the battlefield. I am silent about UAVs and co-ordinated ammunition. War turns into a computer toy. But only for one side.

[Clueless]

Even the URAL cannot travel more than a meter in the snow, without "laying" the road, i.e. back forward, and so on until you get bored There is no heater on snowmobiles :) There is a heating of the handles and a trigger, plus some still warm air goes to the legs (for example, a Viking Yamaha), the seats, luggage and glass are not heated there.

[Strashila]

“I am glad, comrades,” said Ostap in his response speech, “to disturb the patriarchal silence of the town of Udoev with a car siren. Car, comrades, is not a luxury, but a means of transportation. The iron horse replaces the peasant horse. We will establish mass production of Soviet cars. Hit the rally on the road and sloppiness. I am finishing, comrades. Having pre-bite, we will continue our long way! ", Something like this.
You read, like frost, like the wind, but how our grandfathers fought, how people live in the Far North, like they sleep all the polar night. An elementary cloak, wind protection and seat heating are not fiction today. And the old saying that the Russians just won’t go, so as not to build normal roads.

[your1970]

Quote: Strashila

and how our grandfathers fought

"In the winter of 1941-1942, more than 7 thousand people received frostbite on the Western Front, more than 13 thousand on the South-Western Front, and more than 20 thousand on the Southern Front ... In total during this period, due to frostbite, about 62 of thousands of Soviet soldiers and officers left the army. The level of losses of the Red Army in the same months for the so-called general diseases was extremely high - over 160 thousand people. It is known that at least three-quarters of those who fall ill in winter are from colds. "- that's how they fought ... It was very difficult and hard to fight ...

Quote: Nick_R

These machines are definitely needed. They allow you to quickly move a serious payload. They can be installed quite serious weapons such as automatic grenade launchers. At the same time, fighters can be equipped with high-class personal protection. If you want, modern Heavy cavalry.

- there’s only a troubles - with an increase in weight, cross-country ability on loose soils / snow will drop, up to zero.
There is no talk about dirt at all - there will be a continuous lump of dirt ....

[Warrior MorePhoto]

Buggy stopudovo need airborne !!!

[bone1]

Maybe it’s enough for Americans to watch and make monkeys? - It's time to think with your own head.

[M. Michelson]

A common problem for us is taking over something, we forget about climate expertise (tiles and bicycle paths in Moscow).
Buggy performed well in the desert. Perhaps they will show themselves well in the tundra. But it should already be other buggies.

[barium]

in 1983, it seems, in the journal Foreign Military Review, it was written about the buggy in the US Army. how many years have passed and
ours just combed!