In Syria, announced the reflection of the Israeli strike air defense weapons

Syria receives regular reports and comments on the Israeli rocket-bomb attack on the territory of that country. So, the news agency SANA with reference to representatives of the Syrian government forces report that Israel has launched strikes against the southern part of the Syrian Arab Republic.

Further, the material states that the previous air strike took place about a week ago - on the night of January 12.

Moreover, the authors news the notes state that this time “not a single target was hit by Israeli missiles and bombs, since the Syrian air defense system worked clearly.” Earlier it was reported that Israeli Air Force aircraft attacked the territory of Damascus airport, striking at the infrastructure of Iranian and pro-Iranian forces, including Hezbollah.

A few days later, materials appeared in the media in which it was stated that Moscow allegedly asked the Israeli authorities not to attack the territory of the air port of the Syrian capital because of the high risk for civilian airplanes that arrive in Damascus from other countries.

It should be noted that the statements in the tape IA SANA often contradict the data published by the Israeli media. They noted that all objects of Hezbollah near the Damascus airport were destroyed by the IDF air force. Satellite images in the “before” and “after” formats (from January 12) were attached to the notes.

Comments

[Tahtvjd2868]

When already filled up with the chosen ones ???

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Tahtvjd2868

When already filled up with the chosen ones ???

Last year they shot down in February. What are you not happy with?

[Tahtvjd2868]

The lack of debris F-16 on Syrian (Lebanese) land. They came, shot back and left with impunity.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Why so tough, you can simply express concern.

[Arberes]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Why so tough, you can just express concern

I wonder what purpose they use our concerns for.

[polar fox]

Quote: Arberes

I wonder what purpose they use our concerns for.

depending on which paper: soft or thin.

[stalki]

I wonder what purpose they use our concerns for.

depending on which paper: soft or thin.

Who would slip them a sandpaper

[Aaron Zawi]

Well, they shot us from Syria too. Are everyone happy?

At 14:19 p.m. on Sunday, January 20, the Israel Defense Forces press service sent a message to the media that the Iron Dome missile defense system had intercepted a missile in the northern Golan Heights launched from Syria.

[askort154]

Tahtvjd2868 .....Lack of debris F-16 on Syrian (Lebanese) land. They came, shot back and left with impunity.

This is the whole vileness of Israel’s actions. They strike from the airspace of a neighboring state, confident that the Syrian air defense will not attack them there. Lebanon has already filed a protest at the UN about the regular violation of its airspace, but the UN
"neglects", knowing for whom the United States will stand up. And Europe, in general, does not "notice" this.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: askort154

Strike from the airspace of a neighboring state

[Vovad]

I would like to remind you how someone recently promised to "take steps that will notice everything."

[UMA-UMA]

So, undertook - С300 heroically silent it is visible to all.

[Proxima]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Last year they shot down in February. What are you not happy with?

Yes, that was the case. The Syrians announced three downed planes. Israel has officially confirmed only one. The question is different: is it really hard not to fly into the territory of a sovereign state that you (at least) are not able to threaten?
By the way, I give you a "plus" simply that you expressed the opinion of a resident of your country (note, the correct opinion). And the "cons", believe me, now you will still be piled high.

[mvd ru]

And I began to like the position of Israel, they do not express "concern" in any security advice, but do their job no matter what, but at our top, Fabergés were blown away after Crimea ...

[Arberes]

Quote: Elektron_Peskarev

And you, dear, like Ivan?

Are you probably Vasya?

[UMA-UMA]

Of course not! He is either an American hired John, or Zionist provocateur Abram - after all, he criticizes the state policy of Russia. Exactly - hire!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: The Blanched Iskander and Saint Poseidon

Six times the difference in salaries of the Russian Federation and Israel after tax.

The lack of success of loudly advertised Russian weapons.

Envy of a country that has the ability and courage to defend its interests by any means available.

Relatively everything. Prices here are two times lower, gentle taxation, more opportunities for entrepreneurs (because more population), etc.

[Proxima]

Quote: Blessed Iskander and Saint Poseidon

Envy of a country that has the ability and courage to defend its interests by any means available.

Russia is a huge country and we can allow ourselves in many moments snot to suck. But Israel does not have such an opportunity. They do not have the Volga and the Caucasus Range, to which you can retreat. That's evil they are.

[Andreyka80]

Quote: Blessed Iskander and Saint Poseidon

The Arab Sea around Israel will only grow

Rather the opposite.
Against the background of Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel became closer.
Egypt buys gas from Israel, accepts Israeli assistance in the fight against terrorists in the Sinai and does not see any point in the fight against Israel.
Today, Israel and Chad have agreed to restore relations broken in 1972. And there the majority of the population is Muslim.

Iran, with its desire to destroy Israel, brought Israel and the Arab countries closer.

The problem with Turkey is not in Israel, but in the ruler and there's nothing you can do; when a person who hates Jews is in power, relations cannot be good. It is enough to remember what kind of relationship was before Erdogan came to power and Islamization in Turkey.

And before the Islamic revolution in Iran, Iran and Israel had good relations.

[Pimply]

Quote: Andreyka80

The problem with Turkey is not in Israel, but in the ruler and there's nothing you can do; when a person who hates Jews is in power, relations cannot be good. It is enough to remember what kind of relationship was before Erdogan came to power and Islamization in Turkey.

Erdogan does not hate Jews. He is a pragmatist. When it was convenient for him, Turkey had excellent relations with Israel. When he decided to turn on the road "Turkey - the leader of the Islamic world", then everything naturally changed.

[Sarmat Sanych]

"blissful" scraps are chosen by someone, you better sit quietly and do not rock the boat, otherwise you will lose your temper on your microscopic territory, only a pair of RS-20 will be enough so that even archaeologists will not find the remains.

[RadYan]

But why?
That's more interesting .....

[Major Pronin]

To believe the victorious reports on the actions of the Syrian air defense, this is absolutely not to respect yourself.

[bone1]

It is necessary daily, and preferably not one at a time.

[vitvit123]

Aron, unlike some of your most fellow countrymen, the most intelligent, for some reason, respectfully.

[margo2000]

And they shot down a lot?

[Hypersound]

Soon. The so-called "antichrist" is almost at its peak and will soon bring the scenario to life

[Pimply]

Quote: HyperSound

Soon. The so-called "antichrist" is almost at its peak and will soon bring the scenario to life

But you understand that if you quote Nostradamus, then he was a Jew;)

[demo]

And what will it give?
Partners and allies will attack, both from near and distant Lukomorye.
And then what?
And the most important thing.
As long as the government of "Honduras" will have God's chosen people, not local Hondurans, such a vile policy will continue.
An example of the PRC. There are no representatives of such an interesting nation, and things are going in the right direction.

[Krasnodar]

And in the US, a bunch of favorites at the trough itself and wherever there are grandmas. And the average Chinese can only dream of the life of an average American

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

Already, the average Chinese can compete with the average American. Their crowds no longer eat a couple of cups of rice per day, and in hypermarkets they sweep away delicacies brought in from all over the world, which they have tasted and introduced into their regular diet. And their crowds update their gadgets - almost more often than Americans. And do not forget that the United States is a country - a parasite that pays with the whole world, taking away goods and raw materials - paying with its fake paper with portraits of its presidents. China may collapse the United States at one point - by throwing their treasuries onto the market and who then will be envious of?

[Krasnodar]

Already, the average Chinese can compete with the average American. Their crowds no longer eat a couple of cups of rice per day, and in hypermarkets they sweep away delicacies brought in from all over the world, which they have tasted and introduced into their regular diet.

Even if you compare the holder of higher education from Shanghai, Beijing and Hong Kong with the average resident of some East Side or Passadena with equal qualifications, then still a comparison in terms of living standards will be in favor of the latter.
If you are comparing an American and a Chinese worker from the depths of these countries, the mattress earns and lives much better.

And do not forget that the United States is a country - a parasite that pays with the whole world, taking away goods and raw materials - paying with its fake paper with portraits of its presidents.

Judging because the lion's share of Chinese exports goes to the States, their pieces of paper are provided with the purchasing power of their country.

China may collapse the United States at one point - by throwing their treasuries onto the market and who then will be envious of?

So far, the Chinese have manually lowered the yuan to produce for cheap nat. currency and sell in expensive dollars. If they suddenly go crazy and drown their most profitable customer, then their decline in living standards will be much more noticeable than Amersky. Those themselves still print the dough, do not worry about them)). At the same time, they will find an excuse for China to introduce sanctions.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

Bye, bye, bye - bye! If the Chinese are taken by the throat - it doesn't matter in the economy or if they encroach on their sovereignty in the South China Sea - they will drown them in their waste paper! And they will not bother losing their savings! In contrast to the "civilized" world, they have notions of national pride! Therefore, do not delude yourself with the fact that the Chinese continue to maintain a mattress, taking on debt their papers both in dollars and in their government bonds. If anything - they will let them go downwind!

[Krasnodar]

Do you believe that the 789 billion, which today in the hands of the Chinese in the Treasury, will let Amers down the drain? )))
They have a GDP of 20 trillion a year, a drop in the dollar will only spur their industry, which will gradually, however, migrate from the United States, instead of China, to India.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

Firstly - the Chinese are not so naive as not to understand - they will never get their hundreds of lards by taking them out of the treasury of the mattress covers. You can do this only partially and stretch this process - for decades! And there’s no time for that already! Therefore, these funds have already been lost, just like the whole gigantic mass of dollars in the vaults of the banks of the countries and in the capsules of the inhabitants of planet Earth! All question only - when, this fig financial dollar system will be covered with a copper basin! Regarding the transfer of production from one country to another, these are all fantasies that have nothing to do with reality. These operations, for their implementation, require decades that do not exist, and most importantly, the Chinese have eggs and they can arrange this process (if the Americans decide to start it) with such conditions and so reputable that American companies (and, I doubt other countries join them) completely no desire to get involved in this adventure, threatening them with bankruptcy!

[Krasnodar]

As soon as they receive it, they will be immediately bought, especially since the price of them will fall. They will pull out not 789, but less - most likely. Following the dollar, the price of oil will fall, but in five to seven years everything will stabilize.
The dollar system can be covered with a copper basin due to the emergence of a new country with greater financial opportunities than the United States and greater influence on world politics, respectively. In 50-70 years, China has a chance to be such a country - I’m not sure if this will be better for us (our grandchildren). The Chinese are destroyers. My friend works in Ghana, where the Chinese bought gold mines and factories. For 7 years, everyone was brought to an environmental disaster.
Yes, and in the Krasnodar Territory they say that the land where they cultivated something after 5 years is unsuitable for agricultural.
Regarding the transfer of foreign companies to another place - have you ever worked with the Americans? Everything is spelled out in the contracts with them to the smallest detail, the maximum that the Chinese can put them on is equipment for lawlessness. Which will become obsolete over time. Stop placing orders there and all.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

And where, on which lines will they produce their goods if they stop placing their orders in China?
And where will they find millions of skilled workers whose training takes years? The fact that the former collective farmers are sitting on the tablet assembly lines of the Chinese - do not be fooled. Enough money and time was spent on their training!
As you know, production will not move to Europe, and in India the production culture is much inferior to Chinese! The Chinese, in spite of everything, manage to copy both civilian and military products of world brands without any technical documentation (when it comes to theft and non-licensed copying) and create competition for these manufacturers. And the Indians, even having received all the technical documentation and ready-made assembly lines from finished units, manage to stamp the marriage (an example with licensed copies of the Su-30 and T-90 made in India is an example). And there, to make up the backbone of specialists from ordinary collectors to engineers and managers, a lot of time and money will be left. Does anyone from their global manufacturers need this hemorrhoids?
Unscrewing their hands - it may not work, because they themselves have leverage over all branches of power in the United States. Therefore, all this - chatter - no one will leave China, since everyone really understands that the new economic giant in the world, in fact at the moment, is China! He is already such, and will not become him in 50-70 years! And leaving his market, losing his legal and political patronage - is stupid!

[Krasnodar]

In addition to India (there, in my opinion, they produce cases for Apaches) there are Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc.
You see, where to produce today is not a problem. Two robots with one operator in Germany will not be produced - a hundred workers in Moldova will do so manually (for example). The problem is to sell, and Amer, Japanese, Korean and European brands will always buy.
As for the problem of the transfer of production and training of the Chinese - chat with the user under the name Professor. His Israeli company set up production in China, now they want to robotize because of the high cost of s / n. The Americans will take countermeasures only if the Chinese pull themselves out of it - so it is clear what kind of fret they carry what works. China is certainly an economic giant, but without orders from the West it is nothing. The domestic market of gigantic volumes has not yet formed, the bulk of production works for the States. Therefore, I am writing about 50-70 years when he can replace the United States.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

The fact that some Professor decided to put an assembly robot instead of a hundred Chinese people has something to do with the transfer of production from China? In my opinion, this is the usual story of production optimization, and this continuous process has been going on in all countries since the technical revolution.
Even if you referring to the professor’s desire to transfer your production from China to some other country, it would not be a convincing argument, but only a special case — someone opens production in China (as in any other country), then decides to move it to another place. Such cases are particulars that do not speak of a global trend.
On the concept of world delirium - no one has been buying for a long time. People have learned to look at the ratio of price to quality of goods. And so now, products with brands that are created in China - are in no less demand than brands of European and American manufacturers. That is why, for example, Americans, instead of protective duties on Chinese electronics, began to introduce bans on its supply and sales in the United States, inventing all sorts of reasons (such as spying on personal data in favor of the PRC government). That is, in fact - their global brands can not stand the competition! The buyer is no longer only interested in brands, as such - not backed by quality, functionality and attractive price.

[Krasnodar]

As for the optimization of production - I agree, but if suddenly my Abkhazian producer raised his salary and production becomes unprofitable for me - I urgently agree with South Ossetia about opening the same factory and turn the Abkhazian one off. The question is how much will it cost me, i.e. is it profitable to twitch at all.
About brands - not quite so - with the advent of an extra penny, everyone will prefer to buy a Samsung or iPhone, rather than a cool functional Huawei, for example. That is how the majority thinks.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

And after the transfer from Abkhazia to South Ossetia - is there a guarantee that they will not raise their salaries? Who is next in line - Honduras? I want to note that if a 10-20% increase in salaries can call into question the profitability of production, then there is no point in such production. And, to demand a one-time increase more than such figures - the workers themselves will not, because they will lose their jobs from unsold products. All agricultural producers, from ordinary pickers, understand this very well.
What is more important for you - camera resolution, battery capacity, built-in memory and a more efficient and economical processor or a cheap show-off with the image of a bitten fruit? You need to grow up already. The bulk of the people have already done this.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Vladimir Tesnikov

China may collapse the United States at one point - by throwing their treasuries onto the market and who then will be envious of?

Yes, it cannot, because it will collapse after the states, if not at once.

[Varaga]

right - it's time to roll one or two planes and break off at once

[1 Navigator]

Of course they did! Moscow asked not to bomb, so they repelled it.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Navigator 1

Of course they did!

As always, the attack was repelled, all missiles were shot down, targets on the ground were destroyed.

[Halado Romane]

How many Jews are on the site ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

How many Jews are on the site ...

I’m a White Guard, then I’m Jewish. Decide there already.
And yet, how often have you heard about the successful repulsion of Syrian air defense attacks? I think often, but more often, you saw the consequences of these reflections, in the form of fragments of buildings

[Halado Romane]

You are hardly a Jew. Rather sympathetic. And I didn’t call you a White Guard. You are mistaken. I am more inclined to believe the Syrian media than the state media because of the scoundrels of the pilots of which our guys died. Then these media turned around together with the Jewish leadership, like in a frying pan. But this tradition is such ... However, like firing from around the corner of neighboring states under the guise of local residents. I do not respect such people. Then fly over Syria as a grandmother whispered! Soon and generally fly off.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

Rather sympathetic.

I have no sympathy in the showdown of Syria against Israel. I really don't give a damn. The problem is that I too often heard lies from SANA. - Attack Repelled
Attack Repelled
Attack Repelled
Attack Repelled
Attack Repelled
Attack Repelled
And then a day passes and a video appears from the Jews from where they are delivering another target in Syria.

[Halado Romane]

From the Jews, not only a video can appear, but in general it’s not known what ... They flew over Syria and this is an indisputable fact! Further more...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

From the Jews can not only appear a video, but in general it’s not known what.

Show me the left video from the Jews, in which the destruction of Syrian objects is a fairy.

Quote: Halado romane

They flew over Syria and this is an indisputable fact!

Yeah, noticeably, recently they smashed something near Damascus airport

[Uralean]

I don’t know what a White Guardsman ... But the darling - the Hebrew rushing from you for a mile away ... Che rejoice then? Che have fun? Are you glad that Israelite bomb people and objects of Syria with impunity? Death serialists you want to have more? In This, your joy is the White Guard Horseradish ..? And the Russian people are reading you, and they are becoming even meaner towards Euro-Judas, and rightly so ..))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Halado romance

How many Jews are on the site ...

But you, as I understand it, the only representative of your nationality on the site. Congratulations

[Halado Romane]

Want more? Thanks, I'll think about this question. Give your wife flowers!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

Give flowers to your wife!

And why should someone give flowers to your wife?

[Halado Romane]

Let her give her, Romanov! HIS!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

Let her give her, Romanov! HIS!

And, his wife complained to you that he does not give her flowers like that? Intrigue is brewing on the site

[Halado Romane]

Are you bored? Chat hunting? Well, let your present! I have no doubt that she deserves it!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

Are you bored? Chat hunting?

Well, I didn’t start giving advice to give flowers to other people's wives.

[Halado Romane]

Romanov, you’re something out of place today. Read about the flowers carefully and look at the same time who and what gave to whom. I hope you are about Krasnodar trying to give me flowers of good opinion? I would also like to hope that he, like you and me, is a man of traditional views. I also want to tell you that for the Jews you can worry about how much you will fit with Krasnodar! I’m not an assistant to you here and not even a grateful listener. I repeat - IDF DID NOT SERVE ANY RESPECT FOR ITS VOID WAR METHODS! DIFFICULT BEHAVIOR AND METHODS! Well, tongue-in-cheek with me is absolutely no pleasure to you! And note, I don’t give flowers goodbye to you!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Halado romane

I hope you are about Krasnodar trying to hand me flowers

Your personal relationship with Krasnodar does not interest me

Quote: Halado romane

I would also like to hope that he, like you and me, is a man of traditional views.

Maybe you will meet, talk about this and that.

Quote: Halado romane

I also want to tell you that for the Jews you can worry about how much you will fit with Krasnodar

In my opinion, the Jews are more interested in you. Me on them .........., there is a high with them, let them be

Quote: Halado romane

And note, I don’t give flowers goodbye to you!

What a tragedy

[Krasnodar]

And so I give, and constantly))
I'm just wondering, why on earth are you monitoring the national statistics of forum participants? There is nothing to say in the case, except for repeating Konashenkovsky tales about the S-200 air defense missile system, which suddenly changes the direction of flight in the air and about the "meanness in war" that you imagine as a sporting event?

[Halado Romane]

And what is there to monitor ??? Everything is on the surface. Do not worry! And Konashenkov is our Russian senior officer! Can I really believe the Jews ?! The Lord is with you, what are you saying?

[Krasnodar]

Indeed, why believe the Jews if the officer said that the Earth, for example, is flat If the Jews are so smart, then why don't they go in formation? )) All sorts of Einsteins, Landau, Oppenheimers and other crooks ... Flat - means flat!

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

And you don’t know that an anti-aircraft missile has such a property - to change its flight path, depending on the anti-aircraft maneuvers of the target being hit. This is her indispensable property - otherwise she will not be able to hit anything! And if the target disappears from its field of view, for example, having gone beyond the folds of the terrain or loses its radio visibility - for example, when a group of flying planes in a dense group - scatters in different directions (well, this is a favorite method of masking a group of fighters for one large target - for example civilian aircraft), then the homing missile defense system - can capture another target, which has greater radio visibility. This is exactly what happened with the S-200 which shot down the Russian Tu-154 over the Crimea in 2001! Is it unknown to you? Then take care of your self-education, and do not comment on Konashenkov, who, unlike you, knows what he is talking about.

[Krasnodar]

The S-200 missile is not thermal.
She doesn’t have IR homing, but semi-active radar.
It is technically incapable of intercepting another target in flight.
No matter what size and temperature, that goal was not.
S-200 accompanies the Doppler addition of reflected frequency
from the target of the signal, proportional to the radial component of the velocity
for ROC or approach speed for SAM, with receiver bandwidth
only 200Hz, which at its wavelength of 3cm, gives only + -3m / s.
This means that the target being intercepted at the time of interception
must have not close, but exactly the same coordinates as the followed.
Plus exactly the same velocity vectors along the planes.
That is, two goals must be one.
If there was at least 100m between them, then they were resolved as different and in angles.
Moreover, the F-16 had an attack speed on the ground of 800-900km / h,
and the IL is about 500-550km / h.
The difference in speed is about 100m / s. No ROC (target illumination radar),
neither the GOS will just see another target. Her Doppler frequency addition
will be outside the bandwidth of their receivers.
If for a split second the target parameters are almost the same (impossible, but
hypothetically) and GOS missiles will try to intercept another target,
then guaranteed to be a breakdown in tracking the target.
Because of this, the autopilot will generate the "Maximum Up" command,
the rocket climbs vertically into the sky and self-destructs at an altitude of more than 40 km.

In addition, if you look at the map, you can see that the IL was heading east,
and the fighters flew north. That is, they theoretically could not have
similar radial speeds. And in principle they could not hide behind IL.

The basis for identifying goals in such a situation is CONTINUOUS tracking
her from the moment she appeared. KP combat control officer must clearly understand
who is who.
CP automatically "ties the track" when the target first appears, assigns a number
and further leads according to all available sources of radar information,
algorithmically averaging, specifying its coordinates and parameters.
Since each source sees the goals from its position, then, if for one
locator, they were on the same line, for another clearly visible separately.
That is, at the KP they knew exactly where ours was, where not ours.
Moreover, after the launch, the missile defense system could "self-destruct", for this
just turn off the transmitter of the Russian Orthodox Church, then see above.
Calculation KP sees on the indicators for what purpose the launch was made and could issue a command
stop shelling. (c)
Tu 154 hit the beam with the target. In this case, the rocket initially goes for a larger signature On the way, she cannot redirect, why - described above.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

You demonstrate your cleverness to the specialists who were involved in the investigation of the IL-20 disaster, they will appreciate your "competence" in this matter. They will be especially amused by your opuses, thinking about how (in your opinion) the automation system of prehistoric S-200 should work!

[Krasnodar]

I quoted you from one of the experts. Konashenkov’s version changed twice, then they issued something like “flew correctly, in F-16, to the Moscow Region, but there was a rare case in the history of aviation - a rocket hit the propeller’s propeller’s blade, a fire started.” Because if the S-200 missile with its 37 striking elements hit the plane, the pilots would not be able to report a fire on board. Beats the S-200 in the front of the aircraft. To the meeting. Chat with air defense personnel who know these systems.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

If Konashenkov's version was changed twice (from your words, which may not have a real basis for such statements), it was only for the reason that new data came from specialists who were investigating this case. It is basically impossible to get all the materials at once and analyze them. This takes a lot of time and the fact that the versions changed - this just means that Konashenkov, in contrast to different talkers, who immediately have one single and correct version (it is clear what property and direction) - relies on real and accurate data. If new materials arrive that clarify or refute previous conclusions, he honestly informs about it. If he had the task of unambiguously promoting the version that would be "beneficial" to the Russian leadership, but did not rely on real facts, then it would be the only one and would not change!

[Krasnodar]

Look at the briefings - on the first, the Israelis were on the very small GBU-39 for throwing (!), On the second, one plane separated from the crowd to provoke the Syrians to shoot and the Russian pilot (blessed memory of them all) reported a fire on board. Then the stuffing about the “rarest case in the history of aviation” went to the press, when they realized that they had frozen.
The first briefing showed the data of the Russian Navy, the second - data of the S-400.
In any case, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the aircraft was shot down 23 minutes after the Israelis notified the attack, 12 minutes after the Syrian air defense opened fire.
The defeat of targets in Latakia took place (according to the Russian Defense Ministry) 11 minutes after the Israeli warning. Target (industrial area of ​​Latakia) is located in the North (25 km) from Hmeimim, in the North from Israel, in the North-West of Syria. Therefore, all attempts to blame the lack of interaction between KP AB Hmeimim and Syrian air defense on the Israelis are dishonorable.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

It's funny thinking - comrade (although you are not a comrade to us). The fact that you accused Konashenkov of lying and quoted the version of the Jews that they notified us not a minute before, but much earlier is already an indicator of your deceitful tactics, just like the leadership of your country on this issue. It is precisely because the Jews did not notify our command in time (as provided for by the relevant agreements), but did it in a minute and at the same time, did not find the courage to admit this and apologize - and makes you guilty of the death of our people. Everything else is Jewish demagoguery and getting involved in the controversy of why at first there was data from the Navy (which have their own air defense systems in addition to the S-300 system in Tartus), and then they began to provide data from the S-400 complex in Khmeimim - an attempt by the Jews just to chatter the topic, citing such imaginary "arguments" as if it were not the joining of our version of events. Experts analyzed all the data from all our air defense systems that were operating that day and cited the data obtained from various sources. Which suggests that Russia has several sources of data obtained from different complexes, which confirm the conclusions made by our military. Israel is to blame for the death of our plane - period!

[Krasnodar]

It’s funny to think - comrade (although you are not a comrade to us). The fact that you accused Konashenkov of lying and quoted the version of the Jews that they informed us not in a minute, but much earlier - is already an indicator of your lying tactics

The warning was received according to the version of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at 21:39, targets in Latakia were hit at 21:50.

It is precisely because the Jews did not notify our command in time (as provided for by the relevant agreements), but did it in a minute and at the same time, did not find the courage to admit this and apologize - and makes you guilty of the death of our people. Everything else is Jewish demagogy and getting involved in the controversy of why at first there was data from the Navy (which have their own air defense systems in addition to the S-300 system in Tartus), and then they began to provide data from the S-400 complex in Khmeimim - an attempt by the Jews to chatter the topic, citing such imaginary "arguments" as if it were not the joining of our version of events.

The main non-docking is the S-200, which changes course to another target during the flight. I did not consider the Israeli version here - it is simple, like three pennies - they bombed and flew away.

. Specialists have analyzed all the data from all of our air defense systems that worked on that day and brought the data received from different sources. This suggests that Russia has several sources of data obtained from different systems that confirm the conclusions made by our military. Israel is to blame for the death of our plane!

The opinion of a specialist on S-200 is given above. The death of the aircraft could be prevented by two actions - not to lead him into the air defense battle zone, which should have been perfectly visible with Khmeimim, to give the Syrians a command to cease fire as soon as the aircraft appeared in the air defense operation zone.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

What the Syrians were supposed to do — we ourselves would ask them, and apparently — had already asked and made conclusions. And this does not relieve responsibility of the military leadership of Israel, which carried out this foul provocation - substituting our plane for a strike!
It was because of his idiocy that Lieberman lost his post. And, this is an indirect admission of his guilt for what he had done so that Jewish politicians would not say - giving other reasons for his departure.
And enough already to flog this nonsense - about what the S-200 missile was supposed to do and how to behave. If she captured the target, which was the Israeli F-16 and which clearly could not escape from it, then he intentionally and consciously went overboard our IL-20, the pilot of which clearly knew about him - hiding in such a way in his shadow. It is clear that if the F-16 was on the same line and overboard our aircraft - the missile radar lost the F-16 and captured the larger one as our new target - our board! Another question - was it a pre-planned action of the Jews who were spinning in that area waiting for the start of their attack - when would the IL-20 appear to expose it to the Syrian attack? Or it happened by itself - because of Jewish cunning - the pilot, saving his ass - dived overboard our plane? This can be debated, but knowing the established traditions of the Jewish falcons (the last example of attacks on the airport in Damascus, when they were hiding from Syrian air defense attacks by civilian aircraft landing), this is most likely a well-developed tactic of the Israeli air force.

[Krasnodar]

And this does not relieve responsibility of the military leadership of Israel, which carried out this foul provocation - substituting our plane for a strike!

Why did the Jews do this? Spoil relations with Russia?

It was because of his idiocy that Lieberman lost his post. And, this is an indirect admission of his guilt for what he had done so that Jewish politicians would not say - giving other reasons for his departure.

Lieberman resigned in order not to become a political corpse. And the point here is not IL 20, but the refusal of Natanyahu to launch an operation against the Gaza Strip in response to the shelling of Israel by Hamas .. Lieberman positions himself as an ultra-right macho, and here such an opportunity comes out - he is the Minister of Defense, who does not respond with a blow to the blow

And enough already to flog this nonsense - about what the S-200 missile was supposed to do and how to behave. If she captured the target, which was the Israeli F-16 and which clearly could not escape from it, then he intentionally and consciously went overboard our IL-20, the pilot of which clearly knew about him - hiding in such a way in his shadow. It is clear that if the F-16 was on the same line and overboard our aircraft - the missile radar lost the F-16 and captured the larger one as our new target - our board!

Yes, it doesn’t work like that. This is not IR (infra-red) guidance, it needs constant illumination by the radar, and how and where it shines from the F-16 pilot could not know. As soon as the backlight stops, the rocket goes up and there it self-destructs.

Another question - was it a pre-planned action of the Jews who were spinning in that area waiting for the start of their attack - when would the IL-20 appear to expose it to the Syrian attack? Or it happened by itself - because of Jewish cunning - the pilot, saving his ass - dived overboard our plane?

The second Konashenkov briefing (September 23, 2018, EMNIP) showed that the Israeli plane was 5 km from the Russian side. Is that called hiding? The angle of the aircraft is different, the range is different, etc. And his height was also different. The Israelis generally say the following about this - we bombed and flew away. What nerd will hang at an unsafe height in the air defense strike zone after a successful attack?

This can be debated, but knowing the established traditions of the Jewish falcons (the last example of attacks on the airport in Damascus, when they were hiding from Syrian air defense attacks by civilian aircraft landing), this is most likely a well-developed tactic of the Israeli air force.

Well, yes, if not for civilian traffic, the S-300 with electronic warfare would have shown themselves! )))
This is a job for the Syrians. Arabs have a great sensitivity to the fact that they are being left out, which affects their image of inept warriors. When I asked the Palestinians why Syria and Egypt were losing all wars to Israel, their standard response was a reference to bad Soviet weapons. This, by the way, is one of the reasons why they were supplied with the S-300. Only on January 12, Israel had "no one covered for the last attack." But they were shot down almost all rockets. And today they didn’t bomb anything at all)).

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

The F-16 pilot in real time received all the information on all the airborne objects in its area and knew for sure the location of the IL-20! On-board radar of the S-200 anti-aircraft missile having captured the target no longer needs to be illuminated from ground-based radar exposure. 5 km between the F-16 and the IL-20 - this is typical for such distances, and I repeat once again - if they were on the same straight line and the F-16 went overboard the IL-20, then what was the distance between the aircraft? no matter - a rocket hijacked our plane. This is an antediluvian missile that does not even have the rudiments for analyzing and identifying a target and works in the most primitive way!
Going into historical excursions about why Arabs lose the war makes no sense. But I believe that the point is not some outstanding Jewish training and the superiority of its technology over Soviet and Russian, but that the military training of the Arabs was always useless and they did not have the will to win. To this we must add the highest venality - our advisers could not plan a single operation, which immediately - the Jews would not have known. Therefore, you are not such good warriors, but simply you have never had a worthy opponent.
Lieberman flew out of his chair because of his uncontrollable stupidity - having arranged a provocation with the Il-20, which was clearly planned to pit the Russians against the Syrians and Iranians. This is exactly what they achieved, but everything turned out exactly the opposite. The patience of the Russians burst and the death of our people prompted the leadership to a more intolerant reaction to Jewish air raids. That's because, because of his short-sighted stupidity, Lieberman put his state in the pants and paid for his position, and everything else is already internal propaganda chatter.

[Pimply]

Quote: Halado romane

Want more? Thanks, I'll think about this question. Give your wife flowers!

By the way, a fairly decent Gypsy community lives in Israel. House and Roma mostly.

[NEXUS]

Very soon, I believe, the Syrians will stick the Israeli fighter into the ground ... as they say, they’ll play out.

[Vanych]

last year, one 16th was stuck, the second hobbled home (some say it crashed on the territory of Israel, whoever reached the airfield) and one 35th was scratched, Jews scream, the bird scratched the paint, now it glows on radars like a Christmas tree, so fly can not, but I think the bird was rather iron))

[kebeskin]

And in this case, the Syrian guys also stuck into our plane, albeit through the fault of Israel.

[leodal]

Which weren’t close there, but it was necessary to cover the shining backsides. And in general, they themselves are not to blame for their jambs! Three briefings by Konashenkov (19, 23, 24.09), all three indicate different times, different heights, different distances, but the conclusion drawn in advance is the same - Israel is to blame.
The first consequence happened within a couple of weeks: the heavy drone project (HALE class) was discontinued, Simonov’s design bureau wrote off 3 billion. Could buy in Israel:
- he does not participate in sanctions,
- He is a world leader in military UAVs.
That’s it, the train has left.
And Russia earlier asked Israel not to sell UAVs to Georgia and Ukraine; Jerusalem went forward, cutting supplies.
That's it, the train has come.

[voyaka uh]

You just halved our aviation in one post Downed a year ago, the F-16 was the first for 30 years with something.
He was shot down above the territory of Israel.
The second plane dodged a rocket. She fell into the Mediterranean Sea.
The F-35 collided with a bird in the fall of 2017 (and did not fly for about a month, because the Americans invited the Americans to inspect and consult for repair of the damage to the cover), and the first F-35 sorties took place only in January 2018, after they were officially accepted into the Air Force.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

it is a pity that no one was shot down

[Simon]

For that they showed that the next time they would surely be on the ground and no one would help them!

[Siberian 66]

There is no team ... When it was necessary, in 1982, the issue was quickly resolved. And they all sat exactly on the ass, trying not to breathe ...

[Krasnodar]

In 1982 there was a very bad situation for Soviet air defense.

[Professor]

Quote: Krasnodar

In 1982 there was a very bad situation for Soviet air defense.

Not fig, but catastrophic.

PS
On the Hermon removed the launch of two Tamirs ... We are waiting for the press service of the Ministry of Defense.
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5449898,00.html#autoplay

[Corn]

Do you really have snow there?
How is this possible on the Mediterranean coast and without big mountains?

[zlinn]

because it is 50 km from the coast and the snow lies starting from 1400 meters and to the top of 2200m

[Professor]

Quote: Corn

Do you really have snow there?
How is this possible on the Mediterranean coast and without big mountains?

At 1500 m, the snow depth is now about 1.6 m, at 2200 meters about 2.5 meters. Snowy peaks can be seen from the shores of the Mediterranean Sea.

[leodal]

This bike is very fond of telling Barans with Klintsevich. Jokers are ... Already, they say, they themselves believed :)

[Hypersound]

Oh well, what kind of air defense of Syria, it's all cartoons, and 10 Israeli missiles hit 25 targets!

[Simon]

Listen! Dear! This is for the time being! In general, the Israelis should be offended that their country was not written correctly. Change the letters, and write the capital "U".

[Hypersound]

I wrote everything correctly

[Grits]

I think that it will be possible to call the reflected strike effective after at least one Jewish plane does not return home. The fact that they learned to shoot down rockets and gliding bombs is, of course, good. But it's time to learn how to shoot down aircraft. Otherwise, the Syrian air defense will be in a state of permanent defense with obviously losing positions.

[mvg]

The fact that they learned to shoot down rockets and gliding bombs is, of course, good.

They would learn to shoot down and land .. they would brag about the video, as they shoot down with debris, but for now the Jews boast of pictures BEFORE and AFTER. It is quite objective. And the Syrians are only in the media, how valiant they are. As a result, all that was shot down was the IL-18, and the F-16, which he himself had gone back .. and committed an emergency. Well, once a year, and the stick shoots. According to statistics, the F-16 track will be in February, a month remains.

[sidoroff]

according to statistics, it will just be in 30 years.

[flicker]

But it's time to learn how to shoot down and planes

Yes, I already learned how to think, they just don’t fly to Syria, because they understand that they will be knocked down (after which the people of Israel Netanyahu will take one place), and to bring them down over Lebanon, and even more over Israel - this is a reason for gelding from the geldings for direct aggression against Syria. As soon as the Syrians and Iranians are ready for war with Israel, they will immediately bring them down, after which no one will give a penny broken for the fate of Israel.
And so Israel (formally) does not bomb Syria, but Iranian arms depots, supposedly intended for Hezbollah.
Once again, as soon as Israeli planes begin to be shot down, this will mark the end of the Israel project.
And again, Jews will wander for 2000 years, since they already have experience.

[Vladimir Tesnikov]

That's right - there is no point in bringing Syrians over Lebanon and Israel - because they have not completed the liberation of their territory from the shortcomings and coalition forces. Opening a second front now is extremely unreasonable! The Syrians need to complete ground operations and restore their army to the pre-war level, and strengthen air defense at times. Therefore, the supply of new S-300 systems to the Syrians is a matter of not far off time. But then the flyers will start banging to the fullest and the Jews seem to understand this themselves!

[16112014nk]

Another hutspa breeder eden.

[capsid]

Here's the question: Why does everyone want the Israeli Air Force to get shot down, and why?

[bronek]

I need some sort of western plane. Of the cool Air Force, it doesn’t matter-American, French, English .... It's just that they rarely fly. And the Israelis, with their very, very effective Air Force, fly constantly. How else to find out how effective Russian countermeasures are

[Pivasik]

The advertisement is engine of the trade

[region58]

Quote: capsid

Why does everyone want the Israeli Air Force to get shot down, and why?

Fan syndrome. Not otherwise.

[Corn]

Quote: capsid

Why does everyone want the Israeli Air Force to get shot down, and why?

The unpunished bombing of the Syrian capital by Israel is a direct slap in the face to Russian weapons, to the Russian command, which has more than once declared "heaven locked", and Russia's authority as an ally. So, the seething of patriotic citizens on the Internet is quite justified. It's a pity, destructive and misdirected.

[Strelets1]

Quote: Corn

The unpunished bombing of the Syrian capital by Israel is a direct slap in the face to Russian weapons, to the Russian command, which has more than once declared "heaven locked", and Russia's authority as an ally.

My dear, the Russian Federation did not sign up to fight with Israel on the side of Syria ... and in general on whose or the other too ... Refresh your knowledge of the goals of the stay of the RF Armed Forces in Syria ...
And then here, for many, it starts to pereklinitsya ... and it knocks in one place ...

The fact that the Jews are spitting on everyone and everything when it comes to their vital interest in solving issues of force is a well-known fact for a long time ... But this does not mean that the Russian Federation should become a party to a military conflict with Israel ...

[Pimply]

Quote: Strelets1

The fact that the Jews are spitting on everyone and everything when it comes to their vital interest in solving issues of force is a well-known fact for a long time ... But this does not mean that the Russian Federation should become a party to a military conflict with Israel ...

Here for the most part couch warriors. They have never fired at them - they are brave. Those who actually fought are usually more sober in their judgments. Or even more aggressive.

[flicker]

Quote: capsid

Here's the question: Why does everyone want the Israeli Air Force to get shot down, and why?

"Everyone wants" Israel to stop bombing Syria and helping these terrorists. But Israel is tempted and continues to help terrorists, and only the mass death of its pilots can stop it.
And so no one wants anyone's blood.

[edeligor]

Wangyu - several more successful Israeli Air Force visits to targets in Syria and ... our air defense systems will "somewhat" lose in price. We need a result, gentlemen military experts.

[leodal]

Pure truth. But it was necessary to think about this before, in order to save the general’s asses, they came up with Israeli guilt for the demise of Il-20 out of the blue, and then they also blurted out about the transfer of S-300 to Assad. They seem to learn about the effectiveness of our technology from TV boxes. Well, do not ask techies! ..

[sak1969]

Quote: leodal

Pure truth. But it was necessary to think about this before, in order to save the general’s asses, they came up with Israeli guilt for the demise of Il-20 out of the blue, and then they also blurted out about the transfer of S-300 to Assad. They seem to learn about the effectiveness of our technology from TV boxes. Well, do not ask techies! ..

That is, the S-300 regiment is not enough. You need at least two more!?

[leodal]

You want to pay the nonsense of the generals - the Syrian and ours? Or do you think that the Syrian S-300s, Shell, and so on are paid by the Syrians themselves?
Not enough, not two, not three, not ten. It is strange that this is still incomprehensible.
Shl. The same applies to the S-400, I-500, and "-600" ...

[sak1969]

Fuck comment in a year :) Points are gaining.
Well I will answer you! Come on that "I'm a taxpayer" nonsense!
The people fall into the loot for literally everything and for the S-300 - S-500 and non-receipt of profit from the Power of Siberia and from freezing the Nord Stream-2.
That is why there are "rams" to cut them. Relax and enjoy.
It makes no sense to the Syrians to supply missiles, even though they are allies and only Israel is our partner. Israel can do a lot of things, however, like the United States. And the Russian Federation will not aggravate relations with them. Israel beats the Iranians (it is beneficial for us), the Americans pump oil, we have a base in Tartus. Everything is enough for everyone, everything is normal, and there will be enough space for the Turks. What missiles, the Syrians still do not know how to use them.

[ANCIENT]

Information war has not been canceled by anyone, and it is a very effective weapon! The Israelis say theirs, the Syrians say something completely different - so it will be for many years, because as long as Israel “proves” to itself that the country lives surrounded by enemies who want to destroy the Jewish state, there will be no peace in the region.

[vanavatny]

hmm, actually they have with everyone, everything’s exactly, and for a long time, and what Iran wants from them is not very clear .. the other neighbors in the region can’t even remember when they called for the destruction of the Jewish state, the conflict with Iran quite real

[Major Pronin]

And what. it is not true?

[leodal]

I read a few comments, had fun. It’s so funny to watch a chorus of inadequate impotent people, and all, moreover, with drawn shoulder straps: they say, we are fighting. "When will they fill up ... ???"
Yeah. As one hero of Nikita Mikhalkov said, "If you jump ..." :))))
Although in vain I'm talking about impotent people. More like self-excitation with self-gratification. They say it’s sometimes useful - it dampens emotions.

[Polymer]

As far as it is possible for a non-specialist to understand, air defense systems can bring down planes only if they go directly into the air defense zone. Such an opportunity has already been closed for the Israeli Air Force - now they are bombing from afar. In order to shoot them down, we need reconnaissance aircraft on duty in the sky, plus interceptor fighters. And Syria does not have such funds yet.

[high]

You are mistaken, by agreement between Russia and Israel, Israeli planes launch missiles outside Syria so as not to compromise the S-300 ..

[Polymer]

What kind of "agreement" are we talking about? Is there really such a contract or is it your assumptions?

[Boris Ivanov]

yes as much as you can .. again, the God-chosen on the iron cumpole was tapped)

[watchmaker]

I think Lebanon will not mind if it is air defense. Syria will destroy a couple of three Israeli F 16, engaged in lawlessness in their airspace! Over our board, Israel has not yet answered.

[leodal]

First, it is unlikely to destroy. Secondly, if it attacks from the territory of Lebanon, then Israel will "cleanse" the Lebanese territory, if from Syria - then the Syrian one. And so, "drink ne drink", have been trying for more than 70 years. Yes, with the help of the USSR - the deceased.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: watchmaker

if air defense. Syria will destroy a couple of three Israeli F 16,

The point is small-destroy. What the Syrians do not very well from the word at all.

[Major Pronin]

In my opinion, the most effective way to stop the raids is not to deploy the S-300 (400/500/1500, etc.), but I think there is an opportunity to influence Iran, which supports terrorist groups of a certain direction and swears to destroy Israel.

[leodal]

It seems to be logical. Only now the snake in the "Motley Ribbon", when Sherlock Holmes beat it with a stick, returned home and killed the owner. So the attempt will end with terrorist attacks here, not there.
Would Israel cooperate against savages, and modern drones would be (where Israel is No. 1 in the world), other technologies ... Alas.
In my work, I really feel the failures in education and science, when many Jews left. I'm sorry. Do you need something else? Another and get it. Only not that - not desired.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: leodal

- and modern drones would be

Money in the morning, evening chairs

[asv363]

Quote: Major Pronin

to influence Iran, supporting terrorist groups of a certain orientation

You do not tell the names of the groups?

[Krasnodar]

Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad.

[asv363]

Hezbollah and Hamaz are not banned in Russia, they are also not recognized as terrorist by the UN. With "Islamic Jihad" it is more difficult - there are two organizations banned in our country, one of which is related to Egypt (Egypt), the second - from memory, to the Caucasus (here I may not be accurate). In the list - numbered 5 and 17: http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/npd/terror.htm

[Pimply]

Quote: asv363

Hezbollah and Hamas are not banned in Russia

Which does not make them less terrorist.

Quote: asv363

in the UN they are also not recognized as terrorist

The UN cannot recognize or not recognize terrorist groups. That is, of course, the UN can vote in the Security Council and in the General Assembly. But this does not prevent those countries that abstained or voted against not including the organizations in their blacklists.

[Andreyka80]

Interestingly, the Syrian missile launched after the Israeli strike towards Israel was shot down precisely by the Iron Dome, and not by the other missile defense systems that Israel has.
A great demonstration of the United States that they decided to purchase a LCD and other potential buyers.

Israelis resting now on Hermon - watched the work of the LCD.

[Andreyka80]

At the same time, an Israeli strike frightened Iranians whose plane turned and flew back

[ain1959]

Where does infa come from?

[Ashkelon79]

It is believed that the attack was carried out precisely with the aim of "deploying the aircraft", and not to work on ground targets.

[Morphius]

and if Hezbollah with MANPADs would have seeped into Lebanon, and as soon as the Jews started to shoot from there, they would have carried them away ... of course, this is so ...... I don’t know what height they shoot from, but how do we remember our then the Syrian war, so the Jews were caught, it always went from one point in the mountains and shot low and with impunity, our specialists stopped it ..

[Andreyka80]

Quote: Morphius

and if Hezbollah with MANPAD leaked to Lebanon

So after all, Hezbollah itself is from Lebanon and they have MANPADS.

[ain1959]

Artem, Why is Hezbollah in Lebanon silent? They don’t have any portable air defense systems, the Israelis go over Lebanon on a shaver of no more than 5 km and shoot from one point, which cannot be caught

[Krasnodar]

..: Hezbollah is a Lebanese organization, if Che. As for the first Lebanese war, Skyhawk, EMNIP, was shot down from MANPADS, as it was believed - by some Palestinians. And now you have revealed the truth - it turns out, experts of the SA. The privacy stamp has already been removed or didn’t you think?

[Sars]

Assad warned the Jews that Ben Gurion would smash in return, I think sooner or later this will end.

[Yustet1950]

The politicians of Israel are eager to unleash the 3rd world. It is unclear only to whom they will then hang noodles about the Holocaust.

[Dazdranagon]

They always say that, but in reality everything is accurate and vice versa!

[high]

Quote: Halado romance

From the Jews, not only a video can appear, but in general it’s not known what ... They flew over Syria and this is an indisputable fact! Further more...

I live far from Europe and the Middle East and my countrymen are more interested in how a small country surrounded by enemies and in constant wars, where a huge defense budget is 5-6% of GDP (my neighbors - the USA spend 2% of GDP), is ahead according to GDP per capita, the world powers Japan, Great Britain, Italy, France.
With regard to your “indignation,” Churchill answered: there can be no anti-Semitism in Great Britain, because the British do not consider themselves stupid than the Jews.

[ain1959]

Do you want to move come ....

[Professor]

Quote: alta

ahead of the world powers in terms of GDP per capita, Japan, Britain, Italy, France.

The third time. You write nonsense:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/211rank.html#IS

39 UNITED KINGDOM $44,300 2017 est.
40 FRANCE $44,100 2017 est.
42 JAPAN $42,900 2017 est.
55 ISRAEL $36,400 2017 est.

[voyaka uh]

42,115, like, according to 2018 year ...?

[Professor]

Quote: voyaka uh

42,115, like, according to 2018 year ...?

How? GDP grew over the year at about 3 percent ...
https://data.oecd.org/israel.htm

[voyaka uh]

There are various estimates of GDP: CIA, International Bank, UN.
From this discrepancy in the data.

[Professor]

Quote: voyaka uh

There are various estimates of GDP: CIA, International Bank, UN.
From this discrepancy in the data.

In no data are we ahead of Japan, the UK, France.

[voyaka uh]

Japan - came across,
Economist? Great Britain - no.

[Dazdranagon]

Two Israelis are measured ... Yes, beautiful, taller than us, why not argue. In many aspects I envy you. Good envy.

[high]

Although you, a professor, (Oleg Sokolov) live in Israel and do not know about the successes of your country,
raise your educational level, then you will find out that Israel surpassed Japan, France, and Great Britain by GDP per capita.
GDP per capita, 2017
Israel - 40258 Dollars
France - 39869
UK - 39734
Japan - 38439
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_ВВП_(номинал)_на_душу_населения
By the way, your North Plotsker, economist:
after the 2009 election of the year:
- The annual per capita GDP, the adopted indicator of economic development, in 2018 increased from 30 000 to 42 000 dollars, increasing by 40%.
http://www.isrageo.com/2018/12/20/pozibibi/

Maybe apologize for the insult ???

[Professor]

Quote: alta

Although you, a professor, (Oleg Sokolov) live in Israel and do not know about the successes of your country,
raise your educational level, then you will find out that Israel surpassed Japan, France, and Great Britain by GDP per capita.
GDP per capita, 2017
Israel - 40258 Dollars
France - 39869
UK - 39734
Japan - 38439
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_ВВП_(номинал)_на_душу_населения
By the way, your North Plotsker, economist:
after the 2009 election of the year:
- The annual per capita GDP, the adopted indicator of economic development, in 2018 increased from 30 000 to 42 000 dollars, increasing by 40%.
http://www.isrageo.com/2018/12/20/pozibibi/

Maybe apologize for the insult ???

How nice it is to quote economists and Vicki close to Bibi, while ignoring the official OECD data and the respectable CIA handbook. Yes, Israel has something to be proud of, and Bibi himself attached himself not only to bribes, but also improved the welfare of citizens, but the facts are as follows:
Israel's GDP is lower than in the UK, France and Japan. We have to plow and plow before them.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/211rank.html#IS
https://data.oecd.org/israel.htm

[anjey]

A few days later, materials appeared in the media in which it was stated that Moscow allegedly asked the Israeli authorities not to attack the territory of the air port of the Syrian capital because of the high risk for civilian airplanes that arrive in Damascus from other countries.

Jews do not understand kindly or they are confident and seriously think that this is a manifestation of weakness on the part of Russia, but for a long time, as always, we harness, but drive fast, Zion wise men ....

[Mentat]

Quote: Vovad

I would like to remind you how someone recently promised to "take steps that will notice everything."

What do you see as a mismatch?

[Love is]

Syria has a dozen MIG-29. Why shouldn't they track the falcons' takeoffs and fly off to provide?
Ours could support them informatively. After all, we have such radars !!!!

[Ashkelon79]

The Syrians simply do not want their fleet to lose 10 aircraft at a time.

[Pimply]

Quote: Love is

Syria has a dozen MIG-29. Why shouldn't they track the falcons' takeoffs and fly off to provide?

Because they are not suicides or fools, unlike many local sofa warriors

[Mentat]

Quote: Andreyka80

Interestingly, the Syrian missile launched after the Israeli strike towards Israel

Syrian rocket? It is highly doubtful that Assad is capable of such stupidity, given all the circumstances. What kind of event are you writing about?

[Andreyka80]

Quote: Mentat

Syrian rocket? It is highly doubtful that Assad is capable of such stupidity, given all the circumstances. What kind of event are you writing about?

About the event in the article.
Why are you in doubt? And previously Assad sometimes launched rockets towards Israel.

[Renat]

apparently we are talking about an anti-aircraft missile "Surface-to-air", which flew into the territory of Israel while repelling an attack.

[voyaka uh]

Mentat: "Syrian missile?" ////
----
I think an anti-aircraft missile with burned fuel flew by inertia, by accident. The dome and shot - on the machine.

[Renat]

This can go on ad infinitum - Israel will bomb Syria with impunity and Syria’s air defense will try to shoot down missiles and bombs without attacking carriers. There are only two ways to stop this from happening - to shoot down the carriers (planes) themselves or strike back at the carriers (planes) airfields in Israel. I’ll add - this will be confirmed by any military - it does not matter how much ammunition is spent on fulfilling targets and how many of them are shot down - at least 99 out of 100, if the target is hit by ammunition (missiles, bombs) that burst through the barrage - the task is completed.

[Andreyka80]

Quote: Renat

There are only two ways to stop this.

There is a third - to reassure Iran so that it does not go into Syria.

It is enough for Iran to stop supplying weapons, build military factories and help Hezbollah, recognized by terrorists not only as Israel, - you will not see a single strike on Syria.

Quote: Renat

There are only two ways to stop such a thing — to shoot down the carriers themselves (aircraft) or to strike back at the airfields of carriers (aircraft) in Israel.

I don’t think it can lead to war sooner and Assad understands this, as he understands that, leading to escalation, Israel will win the war and so weak Syria will roll back in its development for 20-30 years.

[Renat]

Quote: Andreyka80

Quote: Renat

There are only two ways to stop this.

There is a third - to reassure Iran so that it does not go into Syria.

It is enough for Iran to stop supplying weapons, build military factories and help Hezbollah, recognized by terrorists not only as Israel, - you will not see a single strike on Syria.

Quote: Renat

There are only two ways to stop such a thing — to shoot down the carriers themselves (aircraft) or to strike back at the airfields of carriers (aircraft) in Israel.

I don’t think it can lead to war sooner and Assad understands this, as he understands that, leading to escalation, Israel will win the war and so weak Syria will roll back in its development for 20-30 years.

I did not talk about the consequences - it’s clear that in the event of retaliatory Syrian strikes, Israel would immediately smash the floor of Syria within a week, and no Syrian air defense would change anything. I said that only by destroying carriers and hitting the attacker's airfields can we stop air raids. And from why Iran is building military bases and factories in Syria - this is understandable to everyone, and Israel’s reaction to this is predictable. And you are right. Iran provokes Israel, and this will continue indefinitely until Iran ceases to support anti-Israeli forces in Syria.

[Andreyka80]

Quote: Renat

And you are right. Iran provokes Israel, and this will continue indefinitely until Iran ceases to support anti-Israeli forces in Syria.

Maybe the sanctions will work and Iran will not have extra funds to pour into Syria.
After Israel discovered the Hezbollah tunnels in Lebanon and destroyed them, this is another blow to the strength of Iran, including investments, since these tunnels were very expensive.
And the cost of weapons and factories that Israel destroys is rather big.

[Renat]

I do not want to go into further controversy over the fights between Israel and Iran. If only because I am Russian, and I have recently changed my attitude towards Israel because of the death of 15 Russian military in the downed IL-20 because of Israel’s attack on Syria. And changed for the worse.

[Pimply]

Quote: Renat

I do not want to go into further controversy over the fights between Israel and Iran. If only because I am Russian, and I have recently changed my attitude towards Israel because of the death of 15 Russian military in the downed IL-20 because of Israel’s attack on Syria. And changed for the worse.

By the Syrians have not changed? So they shot down. Through 20 with more than minutes after the warning received by the Russian contingent.

[Mentat]

Quote: Andreyka80

Quote: Mentat

Syrian rocket? It is highly doubtful that Assad is capable of such stupidity, given all the circumstances. What kind of event are you writing about?

About the event in the article.
Why are you in doubt? And previously Assad sometimes launched rockets towards Israel.

Because this is beyond common sense, Assad did not take such steps, and besides, he obviously consults on military issues.
In this note, no Israeli attacks by Syrian missiles are reported.

[Andreyka80]

Quote: Mentat

Because it’s beyond common sense,

Not if one of the missiles launched towards Israel was shot down while trying to respond to the shelling and missed targets. Or they simply launched in response to at least do something, so as not to look completely helpless.

Quote: Mentat

In this note, no Israeli attacks by Syrian missiles are reported.

Yes, but there is already another note that is related to this.

Quote: Mentat

Assad did not take such steps

You do not remember Assad’s attacks on Israel?

[Igor Evgenievich.]

Quote: Halado romance

How many Jews are on the site ...

They are everywhere.

[Love is]

Replace the word Russian with Soviet. Most local writers are not Russian.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Love is

Replace the word Russian with Soviet. Most local writers are not Russian.

Father is a Pole, mother is a Buryat. I am Russian born in Azerbaijan. I do not like? Suitcase, train station, Israel. We’ll figure it out without you.

[Love is]

Familiar Soviet note in the text. I will disappoint you. Or maybe I will delight. You can consider yourself even a Polish Buryat, even a Buryat Pole, I do not care. Russian nationality implies several signs. One of them is the father of a Russian man and baptized in Orthodoxy or according to the old rite, Christianity, tolerance for people of a different nationality, and what else. So, that Valentine you are a Soviet man. And learn to already be yourself. This is normal. Nobody drives you out of the country for this.

[Doliva63]

so missiles shot down or not?

[Maz]

Quote: Krasnodar

Indeed, why believe the Jews if the officer said that the Earth, for example, is flat If the Jews are so smart, then why don't they go in formation? )) All sorts of Einsteins, Landau, Oppenheimers and other crooks ... Flat - means flat!

Yeah, not one of these Jews (All kinds of Einsteins, Landau, Oppenheimers ... and others) has never lived in Israel - the smart ones . None of them studied in Israel - geniuses , none of them was even born in Israel - parents are not fools know where to live . So what about cleverness this is not for Israeli Jews . There is nothing to cling to geniuses .... And As your builders got repairs of the newest house. And Yigal Alon is one and two. In FIG so build, Schaub then cut the money for repairs? The Oto and the shelling of Damascus - a bag of money - from the same opera. Saw the power, plus in America a shutdown. It is necessary to do a window dressing to the population. So they try.

[Mentat]

Quote: Andreyka80

And previously Assad sometimes launched rockets towards Israel.
You do not remember Assad’s attacks on Israel?

Give some examples, please.

[ain1959]

And the trace from the engines on the shaver and the flame is good to see, and the boats on what. But the first spy must be tracked and find out how he merges the Old ....
What kind of flame? Are they dissecting in the afterburner?
And even more so - by 5000 m.
Shaver - this is when the tops of the trees are shaved with planes (actually 30 - 300 m.).
It’s better to plant ambushes on the peaks of the Lebanon ridge. But this is if Hezbollah herself in Zahal has a spy.
ain1959 (Alex) Today, 02:11
Correctly they even go over the sea at low level, I think that the head of a simple "Strela-1" or better "Stinger", so as not to ignite ours, will take and beep that it has detected the target even at night. In Yemen, two planes of the Arab coalition were shot down. Moscow. January 8. INTERFAX.RU - The second military plane of the coalition led by Saudi Arabia was shot down in Yemen over the past XNUMX hours, the IRNA news agency reported on Monday, citing the Yemeni news portal Al-Masir.
An F-15 fighter was shot down by a surface-to-air missile in the skies over Sana'a. The Yemenis managed to shoot down a Saudi Tornado fighter jet the night before in Kitaf, in the north-west of the country, "the report said. Iranians In Yemen, they somehow attach a helmet with a thermal imager to our rocket, even some civilian bought in a store, the planes go touching the tops of trees shave (actually 30 - 300 m.), The main thing is that the thermal imager squeals, or directs in which direction, like this shoot down F-15 Yemen, I did not go into details of how the missile was modified, you will find it yourself, but I am sure that the Iranians did it, but even the Husids, but they are completely controlled by Iran and they will share the info, by the way at night the thermal imager works, even the store one km this is nonsense, all the more you say 2 meters, and if they managed to put it in Yemen, in Lebanon this complex is also there, but it really shoots our rocket, they can substitute Russia for us. And another question why the Jews do not bomb the Hezbol warehouses in Lebanon ... ?? Here is the link from where infa https://www.interfax.ru/world/300

[sad1940]

and what is this for the Jews? Have you bought a lot of planes?

[Lead]

Yes, everything is fine there, Israel’s blow was repelled, almost all the missiles were shot down.
According to SOHR, a radar installation, which was part of the centralized air defense system of Syria, was destroyed, weapons depots and military facilities of the Iranian forces and the Lebanese Hezbollah were destroyed in the areas of the international airport near Damascus, Al-Qisua and Jamraya. According to SOHR, there are numerous casualties. In addition, Syrian air defense batteries were attacked.
The victims of the attacks were at least 11 people. All of them are military or fighters of paramilitary groups. The Russian military reports four hundredths.
The situation is stabilized, it is necessary to send to Syria the new Pantsir air defense missile systems, together with calculations to replace those destroyed.

[Pentarhist]

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For those interested in the S-300
walter_andris
Dec 12 2018 - The military of Russia and Israel [again] agreed on cooperation between the Khmeimim air base and the Israeli Air Force command center. The parties discussed the operation of a direct communication channel to prevent dangerous incidents that threaten the life of Russian and Israeli troops.

NB: Russian and Israeli.
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A spokesman for Russian President Dmitry Peskov on Monday emphasized that the delivery of air defense systems to the Syrians is aimed at ensuring the security of Russian troops in Syria, and not against third countries.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov commented on the delivery of a battery of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria and said that Moscow needed to ensure the security of Russian forces in Syria. It is reported by RIA Novosti.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported on the delivery of the S-300 complex and other equipment to increase the level of security for Russian troops in Syria.